Smash gays are pretty autistic, but complaining that they take a game too seriously is either just shitter cope or sour grapes from someone whose too dead inside to actually enjoy something.
Smash players try so hard to fit in with the rest of the FGC, but the minute you make fun of Smash, they piss and shit their pants. They can't handle shittalk which is like 90% of what makes the FGC so fun.
Also this a personal gripe with the community, but its a bunch of fricking super pale skinny white manchildren who have never lifted a weight in their life trying to act tough. Like if you're gonna be playing a kids game with a community of pedophiles, at least act the part. Take a page out of the Skullgirls community's book.
>Autistic >Pedos >Rapists >morons >Murderers >Smelly >Cringe >Blank ass personalities outside of two of them
These are the main reasons, but there are plenty more
Did you notice a particular picture used in the op maybe?
2 years ago
Anonymous
just admit that you're wrong man. This is what's wrong with the world today. People just can't suck up their ego and pride and say "oh my bad. I thought differently, but I see I was mistaken." c**t
Most of the top players, T.O's and Figure heads are corrupted, double face homosexuals.
If the events of summer 2020 taught me something is that internet friends will avandon you at the first sight of trouble and that you never put your trust in americans.
They have no loyalty nor commitment to their friends.
With the exception of Mr. E, of course. He's a real homie.
>Cumming over the roster, hundreds of people spamming their roster picks when ultimate was still getting DLC. Most of the people who got into smash were only interested because of the roster first. Consoomerism at it's finest >No matter which version you play, smash is just awful. Platformer genre as a whole is okay but smash has a lot of arbitrary mechanics that make the game a pain in the ass, the controls are ass, and the whole edge guard/ledge grab game is borigin in concept and can be even more boring in some cases, particularly noticeable in melee >Smash players don't care about the FGC and rarely have crossover (though it's been increasing over the years) yet also want to claim to be in the FGC >Smash, again mainly because of the roster, attracts the nerdiest, cringiest type of players. Nintendo fans are genuinely something else.
The five god era was something. Sucks that it's mostly gone, Mango is barely holding on and increasingly crippled by alcoholism and age while Hbox is just a streamer now, he's half Ultimate and whatever the current memegame is
>rosterhomosexuals obsessing over characters and spamming threads >FGC hates it for its popularity and pseudo association with fighting games >couple allegations and scandals (pretty much exclusively with the new game) >muh smell >ultimate players hating on melee and vice versa for moronic reasons
No matter how long some of the more autistic shitposters try, they wont change the fact that melee is still the goat
The problem with Smash is
1) It's way bigger than any other fighting game. Most fighting games are rather niche. And of the 500,000 people who have bought it, maybe only 1% of them are hardcore players. This leads to a small community of "pro" players. And smaller communities means (usually) more chill and nice people.
2) The "pro" players of Smash are really sad.
3) There's hundreds of thousands if not over a million others who are wanna be pro players. And they ruin every gathering they go to. They demand everyone play Melee exclusively, only with the "official" rules, talk incessantly about tier lists and critique everyones playstyles. Even if everyone else just wants to play some casual game, they have to turn it into a tournament. If you don't, they whine and b***h until you do. But even if you give in and play the way they want, they still whine and complain. They're sore winners and losers at the same time.
These people are the ones people think of when they think of "Smashgays." Not the actual tourney guys like Ken and Scarf, but the wanna be losers who make Smash their life.
This, what is it with smash players obsession for only playing 1v1 no items? Everyone I've played with is like this, even when I played with my little brother he insisted we had to play it that way. Does any other game have such a infatuation with its competitive format?
It says in the post you're quoting. They're wanna be tourney players. And so they focus on tournament rules. It's basically the fighting game equivalent of League of Legends.
I'm not really a sweaty Smashgay, but items are pretty annoying in a 1v1s where you're probably playing for competitive reasons anyways.
Items are great in matches with 4+ players where everything is already so chaotic and wild that that items only make things even more fun. You're actually a gay if you don't allow items in those big group fights.
Seething jealousy. Imagine having to constantly move on to shittier versions of your favorite games while meleechads continue to play melee for 20 years.
>put in the work
For a game that's 1000x easier with far less depth? Doesn't make much sense anon. Melee has stood the test of time unlike ult which will be dropped the millisecond the new smash game comes out.
I just like Melee’s metagame. It’s been evolving for 20 years. Pretty high octane stuff, it’s fun to watch. >smashgays are perverted and stinky
The people typing this are punching down on the few groups lower than them: pedos and people that don’t shower. A low enough bar that your average Ganker poster can reach. This kind of person probably frequently laughs at morons as well. They’re pathetic men irl so they take each and ever opportunity, under the veil of anonymity, to feel big by bullying others. It’s a cheap shot. Low hanging fruit. Indicative of low value.
why can every other fighting game community move on to the next installation of the game, but meleegays refuse to? they are killing their own franchise. I admit Brawl sucked ass in comparison, but Ultimate has a lot of cool tech too and the roster is so much better. But I guess they don't care. They just want to show people how good they are at a 21 year old game.
Every nusmash game sucks ass. Sakurai killed smash in 2008. Ult does not have "a lot of cool tech". It has literally 1% as much tech and movement options/combo potential as melee. Why in the world would we move on to such a blatantly inferior game when melee has managed to do so well for so long ?
Nintendo isn't giving much incentive to competitively play Ultimate, in fact they don't support the competitive aspect of the Smash scene at all
If they pulled a Capcom and hosted their own Smash Ultimate tourneys while letting their game be hosted in other tourneys with good cash prizes, it'd be a good reason to play the newer game, but they don't do none of that shit, so melee players rely on the community they always had
They actually tried doing their own tournaments with Brawl and Smash 4. The competitive people didn't like it. Because Nintendo forced their own rules (items on, all stages, 4 vs 4 matches, etc). But at the same time, it was great to see the competitive players lose their shit because they couldn't play with "their rules." As well as seeing some pretty low ranking people beat the top players. Ken and his holy Marth being defeated by a literal who playing WiiFit Trainer was epic.
So they tried to force shitty rules nobody likes and it failed? How surprising. >Ken and his holy Marth being defeated by a literal who playing WiiFit Trainer
Ken was a melee player. Who cares about losing in a dogshit game like brawl? You sure seem desperate.
I can understand why a player wouldn’t wanna spend 500 bucks on airfare and hotels just to get fricked by a bomb spawning on top of them or the opponent getting a good pokeball, but I wish the big tournies these days would do more zany side events.
I think they did random characters, all items, all stages at one of the last Summit events and it was hilarious. I think one guy managed to get like two kills with a home run bat. Just really fun all around.
I can understand it as well. But it's also funny because what did they expect Nintendo would do with an "official" smash bros tournament? Turn off 3/4 the content of the game just to appease them? The only reason for Nintendo to have tournaments is to advertise their game.
Every melee player tried ultimate when it came out. Some stuck with it for a few months before deciding it wasn’t for them. Some still play it now.
What’s wrong with playing the game you like?
yeah they quit before fully discovering the shit you could do in the game. Ultimate got game changing tech just this year. It's fricked up that people don't give it a real chance. Melee is a game that has been figured out forever now.
I don't understand how people can like melee. I think they're too obsessed with all the tech that lets them land 2 frames earlier after a fair with a 1 frame input or stupid shit like that.
At the end of the day people are just running around almost exclusively using tilt attacks and some characters can play SO lame that it's just completely unfun to watch or fight against.
>and some characters can play SO lame that it's just completely unfun to watch or fight against
this right here. This is why everyone hates Hungrybox and gays who play Ice Climbers.
>tech that lets them land 2 frames earlier after a fair with a 1 frame input or stupid shit like that.
Jesus anon you sound utterly clueless. >At the end of the day people are just running around almost exclusively using tilt attacks
What? That's just not true. Why do morons like you insist on speaking about shit you clearly know nothing about? It's baffling.
Anon anyone that knows even a little bit about melee knows how moronic your post is. Keep shitposting though I'm sure you'll feel fulfilled eventually.
>Meleegays are stubborn picky autists >WiiU/Ultimategays are unhygienic matricidal pedophiles
Guess which one people have overwhelmingly been conditioned to hate more, especially by attributing all of the latter to the former (or just across the board) out of dishonest convenience for a compelling narrative? Vocal, rentfree asshurt over Melee has existed for years before Smash 4's Stinky Day, WiiU/Ultimate's Pedopaloozas, or that Ultimate guy who beheaded his mother, so it's never had anything to do with those. It's because Meleegays said "no" to Brawl instead of giving up and just accepting its flaws. It's all due to excessive Sakurai worship. And it got even worse after Smash 4 was shown pretty early to have reverted the core gravity and animation/game speed to be closer to that of Melee's alongside removing random tripping. Fanboys got offended and thought Sakurai was browbeaten by the meanie bo beanie Meleegays into making these changes.
It's like putting a mirror in front of a degenerate. The image he sees is the one he loathes the most and he screams "Foul!", pretending it's one of those funny mirrors which distort the appearance because he is unable to face cold, hard truth.
I don’t think they are in real life. Seems like a Ganker thing.
I actually know a lot of smash autists, because my brother was a top 100 played for a while. They’re mostly decent guys who just like their game.
The problem with Smash is
1) It's way bigger than any other fighting game. Most fighting games are rather niche. And of the 500,000 people who have bought it, maybe only 1% of them are hardcore players. This leads to a small community of "pro" players. And smaller communities means (usually) more chill and nice people.
2) The "pro" players of Smash are really sad.
3) There's hundreds of thousands if not over a million others who are wanna be pro players. And they ruin every gathering they go to. They demand everyone play Melee exclusively, only with the "official" rules, talk incessantly about tier lists and critique everyones playstyles. Even if everyone else just wants to play some casual game, they have to turn it into a tournament. If you don't, they whine and b***h until you do. But even if you give in and play the way they want, they still whine and complain. They're sore winners and losers at the same time.
These people are the ones people think of when they think of "Smashgays." Not the actual tourney guys like Ken and Scarf, but the wanna be losers who make Smash their life.
People are thinking of the wanna be tourneygays most of the time. Not the actual pro players. You might know some nice ones. But for every "nice" player, there's a thousand scrubs.
Most of the ones I knew were scrubs. No matter the form of competition, there are gonna be a relatively small number of exceptional talents, and many more mediocre or outright bad competitors.
Seems like a weird criticism to say a community cares too much about their game.
It's not a critisism about them caring. But the reasons listed in the post linked above. They come to a place where everyone is playing Brawl/Ultimate, ten start throwing a tantrum until everyone plays Melee. Then they insist everyone play by their rules. Then, even if everyone does all this, they pout in anger if they lose. And if they win, they still act angry.
>They come to a place where everyone is playing Brawl/Ultimate, ten start throwing a tantrum until everyone plays Melee
That sounds implausible, man. Are you sure it’s not all in your head?
>I never saw it so it didn't happen
Despite multiple people in this thread having described it happening.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know they swapped those games. I knew it was Brawl. "One after Galaxy". As if I could EVER make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. They covered their tracks, they got that idiot at the tournament to lie for them. You think this is something? You think this is bad? THIS? This chicanery? They've done worse. That murder! Are you telling me that an Ultimate zoomer just happens to decapitate a woman like that? No! THEY orchestrated it! Meleegays! They DEFACATED at an ULTIMATE TOURNEY! And I saved them! And I shouldn't have. I took them into my own venue! What was I THINKING? They'll never change. They'll NEVER change! Ever since 2001, ALWAYS the same! Can't keep their hands off of Gamecube controller listings! "But not our Melee"! "Couldn't be precious MELEE"! Stealing them blind! And THEY get to have a competitive scene!?! What a sick joke! I should've stopped them when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop them! You-
2 years ago
Anonymous
>tries to defend meleegays as not being autistic by being autistic
>smash community has its own little mini MeToo moment >every single case of rape or statutory rape is from the smash4/ultimate community >melee players get a few bullshit ones like “hbox glanced down at my breasts one time!” >Ganker forever calls melee players pedophiles
It also makes me laugh that the whole thing disappeared the moment people started to realize 99% of the complaints in either community were about “people of color.” That shut it down real quick.
Even as a passive observer, this made me angry. >when we were dating, this guy said he liked dating an asian girl >surely that belongs in the complaints about sexual assault thread
Yeah. He got a few bullshit ones lobbed at him, like somebody really wanted him gone but didn’t have any ammunition.
One was literally “he talked to a 17 year old at a party once! Nothing actually happened at all, but he’s definitely a pedo, right guys?”
That was 100% on west. The TOs attempted to contact him and talk about the situation but he refused. He still isn't currently on any banned list.
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, Boback said he left it open ended so westballz can fix things but fix what? Apologize for what? He didn't do anything and it's bullshit for genesis staff to ask him to make amends or give him the ban.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>He didn't do anything
You nor I can possibly know that. Maybe west should've talked to them and things could've be different.
2 years ago
Anonymous
He says he didn't do anything and I'm inclined to believe him because most of the shit about him that went around during the MeToo shit basically boiled down to this
Even as a passive observer, this made me angry. >when we were dating, this guy said he liked dating an asian girl >surely that belongs in the complaints about sexual assault thread
and supposedly being a bad boyfriend. So the making amends part is where it's bullshit. If he caved and apologized for something he feels he didn’t do, then he's essentially being forced into accepting blame where he felt he didn’t do anything wrong. It seems moronic for most other bans to be public but this one for whatever reason couldn't be disclosed.
Can someone explain to a layman why Melee is played instead of newer games? Without any hyperbole or bias. What is so different and/or inferior about Ultimate?
When you’re running and you jump you don’t lose your speed/momentum. In newer titles jumping decreases horizontal velocity which limits movement options
That’s just one example out of dozens. I’m not writing an essay
>When you’re running and you jump you don’t lose your speed/momentum
You don't lose speed when you do this in ultimate idk what you're talking about. If that were the case nairs would be worthless
It's just a fact my man. This isn't even argued. New smash games do not carry jump momentum. Watch what happens when cpt falcon runs and jumps in melee for example compared to ult and it'll be very obvious.
moron you have to continue holding forward when you jump. Am I getting trolled? If you just look up gameplay online you can watch falcons do this.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>durr no you have to hold button too!
that's not momentum carrying you then, that's momentum + air drift.
If you want to complain that ultimate doesn't have more momentum or weight behind dash jumps then sure complaining about that but you're moronic to say that dash jumps have no momentum in ultimate
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay you're trolling. Very epic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
sorry you're both blind and autistic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
In ultimate, it looks like running before jumping did nothing to increase the jump length
People didn't like the changes Brawl made, so they stuck with Melee. Then the next two games came out and they still didn't like the new games mechanics, mostly because it wasn't exactly like Melee. They come up with tons of reasons for it. But a lot of them are bias. Ultimate has done some of the things they think makes Melee better. But not absolutely all of them. And even if Ultimate was Melee 2.0, they would most likely not switch over to it. Because they're whole life has been invested into Melee.
This from the guy who started spazing out because someone just said other people don't like the post Melee games. Didn't even bash Melee, but just pointed out why they don't like the later games. But he's such a Melee defender that anything less than glowing praise causes him to go into total defense mode and attack the other person.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>NUH UH YOU! NUH UH YOU! NUH UH YOU! AND FINALLY... NUH UH YOU!
maybe don't cry out in pain as you try to strike others
2 years ago
Anonymous
>just pointed out why they don't like the later games >mostly because it wasn't exactly like Melee
Objectively wrong. >Ultimate has done some of the things they think makes Melee better
Objectively wrong. >And even if Ultimate was Melee 2.0, they would most likely not switch over to it
Objectively wrong.
This is why that anon shat on you. You have NO idea what you're talking about.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>objectively
Still a 100% rate of people using this term being wrong.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Prove me wrong then instead of this worthless post.
He says he didn't do anything and I'm inclined to believe him because most of the shit about him that went around during the MeToo shit basically boiled down to this [...] and supposedly being a bad boyfriend. So the making amends part is where it's bullshit. If he caved and apologized for something he feels he didn’t do, then he's essentially being forced into accepting blame where he felt he didn’t do anything wrong. It seems moronic for most other bans to be public but this one for whatever reason couldn't be disclosed.
>He says he didn't do anything
Of course he does. So we're just going to assume that the genesis TOs are evil and want to ruin west for no reason? Even though we know literally nothing?
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Prove me wrong then instead of this worthless post. >even though all I said was objectively wrong and no u
2 years ago
Anonymous
Because it is. All that shit was common shitpost meme talking points that anyone that actually plays or watches melee knows isn't true. You are obviously going to dodge defending any of it because you know you can't.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>All that shit was common shitpost meme talking points
Kind of like how all your posts are defensive deflection without any actual counter points. Yet you demand others provide counter points.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You want to rampantly shitpost and say nothing of value. Cool. Why do you keep replying with this worthless shit? Address what I say or don't reply.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Address what I say or don't reply.
Okay. You're objectively wrong and have NO idea what you're talking about.
I've had this conversation with a friend. Essentially >All post melee smash games until ultimate were all anti-competition and took away a lot of tech that allowed for more control over movement, so if you were interested in the platform genre melee was the only decent one until ultimate and good clones >Melee allows for the most control of movement, at the cost of it requiring a lot of execution, which means there's technically way more skill and mindgames involved
The reason it's still somewhat alive >Free with online play on PC, so nearly anyone can pick it up >Too much sunk cost for a lot of people who spend a lot of time breaking their hands to learn melee tech that don't want to move onto something like ultimate where that tech is absent or obsolete
Tides might change in a few years if nintendo releases a new console and/or ultimate emulation becomes more viable for shitter PCs and it gets some built-in netplay system instead of people having to mess with parsec.
>playing a game made for children makes it easier for you to get close to kids >pretend to be part of the fgc even though you're playing a casual party game to create an alibi for your pedo behavior >refuse to shower
I'll give you a better one
Why is Mango literally considered the face of Smash, when people like Armada (dominated the 5 gods era), Hbox (dominated the post gods era and is still relevant), M2k (dominated the pre gods era, literally the best Brawl player ever and has influenciated over the rest of the smashers around the world), Zero (the best Tr4sh player until 2016), and MKLeo (considered the real GOAT of Smash right now) have done much more for the game and were or are still relevant even upon today? Like it's all about MANGO THE GOAT and stuff, and I think that's probably the 90% of the wannabee Melee """""aspiring to be pros"""""" homosexuals.
I don't just hate the players, I hate the games too. The Smash community is how Sonicgays used to be back in the 2000s but they were mostly kids and teens, these are grown ass men who are homeless, pedophiles, murderers rapists and so on, they've done it all. Outside of Chris-chan Sonicgays grew up so where do we go with Smash subhumans?
They invade people's nostrils without their consent
Please tell me this isn't real.
It's real, but it's not from anything videogame related. It's from a wrestling event.
Doesn't make it any less disgusting, though.
download slippi, play a few matches, and you'll understand
Melee makes Ganker seethe every day.
>over 20 years later and Ganker is still seething over melee
it's the seethe that keeps on seething
>20 years
>still haven't taken a bath
I mean, i wouldn't brag about that...
>20 years
>still can't come up with a new joke
it's not a fricking joke. You guys smell like shit and have no social skills.
ywnbaw
They take an old children's game way too seriously
do you know what fricking website you're on
A board for right wing terrorists according to the US Federal government?
Smash gays are pretty autistic, but complaining that they take a game too seriously is either just shitter cope or sour grapes from someone whose too dead inside to actually enjoy something.
smelly pedophiles, that literally it
This poster is a pedo.
Hungrybox is a joke…
Smash players try so hard to fit in with the rest of the FGC, but the minute you make fun of Smash, they piss and shit their pants. They can't handle shittalk which is like 90% of what makes the FGC so fun.
Also this a personal gripe with the community, but its a bunch of fricking super pale skinny white manchildren who have never lifted a weight in their life trying to act tough. Like if you're gonna be playing a kids game with a community of pedophiles, at least act the part. Take a page out of the Skullgirls community's book.
>FGCBlack person seething at white people
checks out
>Autistic
>Pedos
>Rapists
>morons
>Murderers
>Smelly
>Cringe
>Blank ass personalities outside of two of them
These are the main reasons, but there are plenty more
The average Gankertard is all of this. Seethe more at the greatest fighting game of all time.
>murderers
name 1
>name 1
https://meaww.com/smash-bros-player-collin-boldizsar-aka-sweets-arrested-after-laurie-collins-death
>Super Smash Bros Ultimate pro player 'Sweets' AKA Colin Boldizar
>ultimate
This is a melee thread tardo.
>This is a melee thread tardo.
>Why are Smash players so hated?
>Smash
Did you notice a particular picture used in the op maybe?
just admit that you're wrong man. This is what's wrong with the world today. People just can't suck up their ego and pride and say "oh my bad. I thought differently, but I see I was mistaken." c**t
But I could say the exact same thing to you?
I don't think it really applies unless they're killing another smash player
>plays game
>kills someone
>must be related to the game
careful anon sounding like those ppl who say violent video games make ppl violent
Etika
Most of them are notorious and unrepentant pedophiles.
And what's worse, they don't take showers.
>literally 3 or 4 out of millions
>"most of them"
the absolute state of seething zoomies
>t. mad pedo
uh oh, the pedo made a stinky
Most of the top players, T.O's and Figure heads are corrupted, double face homosexuals.
If the events of summer 2020 taught me something is that internet friends will avandon you at the first sight of trouble and that you never put your trust in americans.
They have no loyalty nor commitment to their friends.
With the exception of Mr. E, of course. He's a real homie.
I can excuse the pedophilia and racism but no personal hygiene is too much.
>Cumming over the roster, hundreds of people spamming their roster picks when ultimate was still getting DLC. Most of the people who got into smash were only interested because of the roster first. Consoomerism at it's finest
>No matter which version you play, smash is just awful. Platformer genre as a whole is okay but smash has a lot of arbitrary mechanics that make the game a pain in the ass, the controls are ass, and the whole edge guard/ledge grab game is borigin in concept and can be even more boring in some cases, particularly noticeable in melee
>Smash players don't care about the FGC and rarely have crossover (though it's been increasing over the years) yet also want to claim to be in the FGC
>Smash, again mainly because of the roster, attracts the nerdiest, cringiest type of players. Nintendo fans are genuinely something else.
casual elitists get beaten at a party once by a guy who air-dodged into the ground and never got over it
It's always either this and/or upset over how Sakurai walked back some of the extreme anti-Melee measures he implemented in Brawl.
its a bit cringe innit
The five god era was something. Sucks that it's mostly gone, Mango is barely holding on and increasingly crippled by alcoholism and age while Hbox is just a streamer now, he's half Ultimate and whatever the current memegame is
They stink figuratively and literally
they smell
smashgays always get shit on for being smelly but I can't imagine a fightan tourney smelling good. What does it smell like in your experience ?
weed and bo
just like every other video game gathering
Have you ever tried to play a game with them? Go do it and you'll see.
>Melee
Biggest autists next to SC2 pros
>Ultimate
Pedos that can't play real fightan
Because lynching pedophiles in the street is no longer legal sadly
>rosterhomosexuals obsessing over characters and spamming threads
>FGC hates it for its popularity and pseudo association with fighting games
>couple allegations and scandals (pretty much exclusively with the new game)
>muh smell
>ultimate players hating on melee and vice versa for moronic reasons
No matter how long some of the more autistic shitposters try, they wont change the fact that melee is still the goat
The problem with Smash is
1) It's way bigger than any other fighting game. Most fighting games are rather niche. And of the 500,000 people who have bought it, maybe only 1% of them are hardcore players. This leads to a small community of "pro" players. And smaller communities means (usually) more chill and nice people.
2) The "pro" players of Smash are really sad.
3) There's hundreds of thousands if not over a million others who are wanna be pro players. And they ruin every gathering they go to. They demand everyone play Melee exclusively, only with the "official" rules, talk incessantly about tier lists and critique everyones playstyles. Even if everyone else just wants to play some casual game, they have to turn it into a tournament. If you don't, they whine and b***h until you do. But even if you give in and play the way they want, they still whine and complain. They're sore winners and losers at the same time.
These people are the ones people think of when they think of "Smashgays." Not the actual tourney guys like Ken and Scarf, but the wanna be losers who make Smash their life.
This, what is it with smash players obsession for only playing 1v1 no items? Everyone I've played with is like this, even when I played with my little brother he insisted we had to play it that way. Does any other game have such a infatuation with its competitive format?
It says in the post you're quoting. They're wanna be tourney players. And so they focus on tournament rules. It's basically the fighting game equivalent of League of Legends.
Because that's the most fun way to play the game? Seems like a really stupid question.
>Does any other game have such a infatuation with its competitive format?
gee anon, think about it for 10 seconds
I'm not really a sweaty Smashgay, but items are pretty annoying in a 1v1s where you're probably playing for competitive reasons anyways.
Items are great in matches with 4+ players where everything is already so chaotic and wild that that items only make things even more fun. You're actually a gay if you don't allow items in those big group fights.
>mew2king's JUST hair in that anime style
fricking lmao
Seething jealousy. Imagine having to constantly move on to shittier versions of your favorite games while meleechads continue to play melee for 20 years.
Ultimate is better in every way. Melee c**ts just don't want to put the work in to get good at it and also let go of a 21 year old, inferior game.
If Ultimate is so good then why does nobody play it?
Pretty sure millions of people are playing it. Just not the tourneygays.
Name every single one then.
>put in the work
For a game that's 1000x easier with far less depth? Doesn't make much sense anon. Melee has stood the test of time unlike ult which will be dropped the millisecond the new smash game comes out.
I just like Melee’s metagame. It’s been evolving for 20 years. Pretty high octane stuff, it’s fun to watch.
>smashgays are perverted and stinky
The people typing this are punching down on the few groups lower than them: pedos and people that don’t shower. A low enough bar that your average Ganker poster can reach. This kind of person probably frequently laughs at morons as well. They’re pathetic men irl so they take each and ever opportunity, under the veil of anonymity, to feel big by bullying others. It’s a cheap shot. Low hanging fruit. Indicative of low value.
TL;DR look in the mirror
>It’s been evolving for 20 years
liar
All you have to do is go look at gameplay from even just a few years ago and you can see yourself shitposter.
why can every other fighting game community move on to the next installation of the game, but meleegays refuse to? they are killing their own franchise. I admit Brawl sucked ass in comparison, but Ultimate has a lot of cool tech too and the roster is so much better. But I guess they don't care. They just want to show people how good they are at a 21 year old game.
Every nusmash game sucks ass. Sakurai killed smash in 2008. Ult does not have "a lot of cool tech". It has literally 1% as much tech and movement options/combo potential as melee. Why in the world would we move on to such a blatantly inferior game when melee has managed to do so well for so long ?
>It has literally 1% as much tech and movement options/combo potential as melee.
you're ignorant
Oh really? Lets hear all this tech then anon. Every single one I've ever seen is shit you can do in melee but worse. Except for footstooling lel.
Why do you have to move onto the new game if you don't like it?
Nintendo isn't giving much incentive to competitively play Ultimate, in fact they don't support the competitive aspect of the Smash scene at all
If they pulled a Capcom and hosted their own Smash Ultimate tourneys while letting their game be hosted in other tourneys with good cash prizes, it'd be a good reason to play the newer game, but they don't do none of that shit, so melee players rely on the community they always had
They actually tried doing their own tournaments with Brawl and Smash 4. The competitive people didn't like it. Because Nintendo forced their own rules (items on, all stages, 4 vs 4 matches, etc). But at the same time, it was great to see the competitive players lose their shit because they couldn't play with "their rules." As well as seeing some pretty low ranking people beat the top players. Ken and his holy Marth being defeated by a literal who playing WiiFit Trainer was epic.
So they tried to force shitty rules nobody likes and it failed? How surprising.
>Ken and his holy Marth being defeated by a literal who playing WiiFit Trainer
Ken was a melee player. Who cares about losing in a dogshit game like brawl? You sure seem desperate.
>Who cares about losing in a dogshit game like brawl?
>You sure seem desperate.
Oh, the irony.
And what's desperate about that?
I can understand why a player wouldn’t wanna spend 500 bucks on airfare and hotels just to get fricked by a bomb spawning on top of them or the opponent getting a good pokeball, but I wish the big tournies these days would do more zany side events.
I think they did random characters, all items, all stages at one of the last Summit events and it was hilarious. I think one guy managed to get like two kills with a home run bat. Just really fun all around.
I can understand it as well. But it's also funny because what did they expect Nintendo would do with an "official" smash bros tournament? Turn off 3/4 the content of the game just to appease them? The only reason for Nintendo to have tournaments is to advertise their game.
Every melee player tried ultimate when it came out. Some stuck with it for a few months before deciding it wasn’t for them. Some still play it now.
What’s wrong with playing the game you like?
yeah they quit before fully discovering the shit you could do in the game. Ultimate got game changing tech just this year. It's fricked up that people don't give it a real chance. Melee is a game that has been figured out forever now.
>been figured out forever now.
Nice meme. Wonder why the top players are more diverse than ever?
because people's hands hurt from the moronic controls and people lose interest in competing?
So are you just going to keep using old memes or engage with what I'm saying?
I don't understand how people can like melee. I think they're too obsessed with all the tech that lets them land 2 frames earlier after a fair with a 1 frame input or stupid shit like that.
At the end of the day people are just running around almost exclusively using tilt attacks and some characters can play SO lame that it's just completely unfun to watch or fight against.
Melee fricking sucks seriously
>and some characters can play SO lame that it's just completely unfun to watch or fight against
this right here. This is why everyone hates Hungrybox and gays who play Ice Climbers.
When I move my character I like them to actually move.
Somehow Samurai forgot that movement matters in platforming.
>tech that lets them land 2 frames earlier after a fair with a 1 frame input or stupid shit like that.
Jesus anon you sound utterly clueless.
>At the end of the day people are just running around almost exclusively using tilt attacks
What? That's just not true. Why do morons like you insist on speaking about shit you clearly know nothing about? It's baffling.
>um ur wrong because...you just are okay!
great rebuttal, truly doing the community a huge favor.
Anon anyone that knows even a little bit about melee knows how moronic your post is. Keep shitposting though I'm sure you'll feel fulfilled eventually.
>uhh everyone knows you're wrong uhh...just because!
wow another homerun rebuttal
maybe because of stupid pictures like that
They're a combination of stupid and arrogant.
>Meleegays are stubborn picky autists
>WiiU/Ultimategays are unhygienic matricidal pedophiles
Guess which one people have overwhelmingly been conditioned to hate more, especially by attributing all of the latter to the former (or just across the board) out of dishonest convenience for a compelling narrative? Vocal, rentfree asshurt over Melee has existed for years before Smash 4's Stinky Day, WiiU/Ultimate's Pedopaloozas, or that Ultimate guy who beheaded his mother, so it's never had anything to do with those. It's because Meleegays said "no" to Brawl instead of giving up and just accepting its flaws. It's all due to excessive Sakurai worship. And it got even worse after Smash 4 was shown pretty early to have reverted the core gravity and animation/game speed to be closer to that of Melee's alongside removing random tripping. Fanboys got offended and thought Sakurai was browbeaten by the meanie bo beanie Meleegays into making these changes.
melee in particular have some of the biggest homosexuals of all time. i like melee but the community is too moronic
extremely arrogant and entitled
The documentary has caused irreversible damage to the Melee community
The doc helped save the community.
Uh...it was damaged long before any "documentary" came out.
what doc?
>Ganker, a website full of pedophiles and sex pests doesn't like smash, a community full of pedophiles and sex pests
It's like putting a mirror in front of a degenerate. The image he sees is the one he loathes the most and he screams "Foul!", pretending it's one of those funny mirrors which distort the appearance because he is unable to face cold, hard truth.
evidence 4.zip
I don’t think they are in real life. Seems like a Ganker thing.
I actually know a lot of smash autists, because my brother was a top 100 played for a while. They’re mostly decent guys who just like their game.
>I don’t think they are in real life. Seems like a Ganker thing.
trust me. They are hated irl
They aren't. Its just delusional morons like yourself. In fact the melee community is respected in the "esports" scene for their tenacity.
HAHAHAHAHA! I think you might be the delusional one. Holy shit.
See
People are thinking of the wanna be tourneygays most of the time. Not the actual pro players. You might know some nice ones. But for every "nice" player, there's a thousand scrubs.
Most of the ones I knew were scrubs. No matter the form of competition, there are gonna be a relatively small number of exceptional talents, and many more mediocre or outright bad competitors.
Seems like a weird criticism to say a community cares too much about their game.
It's not a critisism about them caring. But the reasons listed in the post linked above. They come to a place where everyone is playing Brawl/Ultimate, ten start throwing a tantrum until everyone plays Melee. Then they insist everyone play by their rules. Then, even if everyone does all this, they pout in anger if they lose. And if they win, they still act angry.
>They come to a place where everyone is playing Brawl/Ultimate, ten start throwing a tantrum until everyone plays Melee
That sounds implausible, man. Are you sure it’s not all in your head?
>I never saw it so it didn't happen
Despite multiple people in this thread having described it happening.
I AM NOT CRAZY! I am not crazy! I know they swapped those games. I knew it was Brawl. "One after Galaxy". As if I could EVER make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. They covered their tracks, they got that idiot at the tournament to lie for them. You think this is something? You think this is bad? THIS? This chicanery? They've done worse. That murder! Are you telling me that an Ultimate zoomer just happens to decapitate a woman like that? No! THEY orchestrated it! Meleegays! They DEFACATED at an ULTIMATE TOURNEY! And I saved them! And I shouldn't have. I took them into my own venue! What was I THINKING? They'll never change. They'll NEVER change! Ever since 2001, ALWAYS the same! Can't keep their hands off of Gamecube controller listings! "But not our Melee"! "Couldn't be precious MELEE"! Stealing them blind! And THEY get to have a competitive scene!?! What a sick joke! I should've stopped them when I had the chance! And you, you have to stop them! You-
>tries to defend meleegays as not being autistic by being autistic
Because they're groomers.
>smash community has its own little mini MeToo moment
>every single case of rape or statutory rape is from the smash4/ultimate community
>melee players get a few bullshit ones like “hbox glanced down at my breasts one time!”
>Ganker forever calls melee players pedophiles
It also makes me laugh that the whole thing disappeared the moment people started to realize 99% of the complaints in either community were about “people of color.” That shut it down real quick.
Ganker will clamber for any excuse to seethe at Melee.
Even as a passive observer, this made me angry.
>when we were dating, this guy said he liked dating an asian girl
>surely that belongs in the complaints about sexual assault thread
Pretty sure that was westballz. Thankfully he didn't get canceled.
Yeah. He got a few bullshit ones lobbed at him, like somebody really wanted him gone but didn’t have any ammunition.
One was literally “he talked to a 17 year old at a party once! Nothing actually happened at all, but he’s definitely a pedo, right guys?”
>Pretty sure that was westballz. Thankfully he didn't get canceled.
he sorta did
I he isn't banned. He could go to any tourney he wants. So no he sorta wasn't.
he couldn't go to genesis
That was 100% on west. The TOs attempted to contact him and talk about the situation but he refused. He still isn't currently on any banned list.
No, Boback said he left it open ended so westballz can fix things but fix what? Apologize for what? He didn't do anything and it's bullshit for genesis staff to ask him to make amends or give him the ban.
>He didn't do anything
You nor I can possibly know that. Maybe west should've talked to them and things could've be different.
He says he didn't do anything and I'm inclined to believe him because most of the shit about him that went around during the MeToo shit basically boiled down to this
and supposedly being a bad boyfriend. So the making amends part is where it's bullshit. If he caved and apologized for something he feels he didn’t do, then he's essentially being forced into accepting blame where he felt he didn’t do anything wrong. It seems moronic for most other bans to be public but this one for whatever reason couldn't be disclosed.
meleegays are like kofxv matchmaking issue denier gays
I don't get your point. Melee has functional online.
so would anything with a jerryrig
Obsessed melee hater schizos are something else.
top tier reaction image
Can someone explain to a layman why Melee is played instead of newer games? Without any hyperbole or bias. What is so different and/or inferior about Ultimate?
>better movement
>more combo options
>more depth in general
>interesting characters with a lot to learn
That's just a few of the really big ones.
When you’re running and you jump you don’t lose your speed/momentum. In newer titles jumping decreases horizontal velocity which limits movement options
That’s just one example out of dozens. I’m not writing an essay
Ultimate has that now too though.
No it doesn't.
>When you’re running and you jump you don’t lose your speed/momentum
You don't lose speed when you do this in ultimate idk what you're talking about. If that were the case nairs would be worthless
It's just a fact my man. This isn't even argued. New smash games do not carry jump momentum. Watch what happens when cpt falcon runs and jumps in melee for example compared to ult and it'll be very obvious.
Okay I did it. So tell me where the lack of momentum is when jumping.
are you literally blind?
moron you have to continue holding forward when you jump. Am I getting trolled? If you just look up gameplay online you can watch falcons do this.
>durr no you have to hold button too!
that's not momentum carrying you then, that's momentum + air drift.
If you want to complain that ultimate doesn't have more momentum or weight behind dash jumps then sure complaining about that but you're moronic to say that dash jumps have no momentum in ultimate
Okay you're trolling. Very epic.
sorry you're both blind and autistic.
In ultimate, it looks like running before jumping did nothing to increase the jump length
People didn't like the changes Brawl made, so they stuck with Melee. Then the next two games came out and they still didn't like the new games mechanics, mostly because it wasn't exactly like Melee. They come up with tons of reasons for it. But a lot of them are bias. Ultimate has done some of the things they think makes Melee better. But not absolutely all of them. And even if Ultimate was Melee 2.0, they would most likely not switch over to it. Because they're whole life has been invested into Melee.
This post is an example of how to talk about something without knowing anything about it.
This post is an example of a Melee gay who gets defensive at any post that isn't glowing praise about how perfect Melee is. And reddit spacing.
>freaking out just from being called out as a willfully ignorant gay
This from the guy who started spazing out because someone just said other people don't like the post Melee games. Didn't even bash Melee, but just pointed out why they don't like the later games. But he's such a Melee defender that anything less than glowing praise causes him to go into total defense mode and attack the other person.
>NUH UH YOU! NUH UH YOU! NUH UH YOU! AND FINALLY... NUH UH YOU!
maybe don't cry out in pain as you try to strike others
>just pointed out why they don't like the later games
>mostly because it wasn't exactly like Melee
Objectively wrong.
>Ultimate has done some of the things they think makes Melee better
Objectively wrong.
>And even if Ultimate was Melee 2.0, they would most likely not switch over to it
Objectively wrong.
This is why that anon shat on you. You have NO idea what you're talking about.
>objectively
Still a 100% rate of people using this term being wrong.
Prove me wrong then instead of this worthless post.
>He says he didn't do anything
Of course he does. So we're just going to assume that the genesis TOs are evil and want to ruin west for no reason? Even though we know literally nothing?
>Prove me wrong then instead of this worthless post.
>even though all I said was objectively wrong and no u
Because it is. All that shit was common shitpost meme talking points that anyone that actually plays or watches melee knows isn't true. You are obviously going to dodge defending any of it because you know you can't.
>All that shit was common shitpost meme talking points
Kind of like how all your posts are defensive deflection without any actual counter points. Yet you demand others provide counter points.
You want to rampantly shitpost and say nothing of value. Cool. Why do you keep replying with this worthless shit? Address what I say or don't reply.
>Address what I say or don't reply.
Okay. You're objectively wrong and have NO idea what you're talking about.
I've had this conversation with a friend. Essentially
>All post melee smash games until ultimate were all anti-competition and took away a lot of tech that allowed for more control over movement, so if you were interested in the platform genre melee was the only decent one until ultimate and good clones
>Melee allows for the most control of movement, at the cost of it requiring a lot of execution, which means there's technically way more skill and mindgames involved
The reason it's still somewhat alive
>Free with online play on PC, so nearly anyone can pick it up
>Too much sunk cost for a lot of people who spend a lot of time breaking their hands to learn melee tech that don't want to move onto something like ultimate where that tech is absent or obsolete
Tides might change in a few years if nintendo releases a new console and/or ultimate emulation becomes more viable for shitter PCs and it gets some built-in netplay system instead of people having to mess with parsec.
>muh sunk cost
Or the famously passionate melee fans really like melee.
Today, I will remind them.
https://clips.twitch.tv/EnticingSullenKittenRalpherZ-yrWqpLux3RjP61Yp
>playing a game made for children makes it easier for you to get close to kids
>pretend to be part of the fgc even though you're playing a casual party game to create an alibi for your pedo behavior
>refuse to shower
Has anyone mentioned that melee is sick yet?
Ok well, carry on...
based and true
Every ult tard is like this.
they are too loud, i don't want to hear anything about it, yet it's everywhere and is considered a "fighting game"
bunch of desperate morons
What's with troons looking like nothing like the avatar pic they post online?
I'll give you a better one
Why is Mango literally considered the face of Smash, when people like Armada (dominated the 5 gods era), Hbox (dominated the post gods era and is still relevant), M2k (dominated the pre gods era, literally the best Brawl player ever and has influenciated over the rest of the smashers around the world), Zero (the best Tr4sh player until 2016), and MKLeo (considered the real GOAT of Smash right now) have done much more for the game and were or are still relevant even upon today? Like it's all about MANGO THE GOAT and stuff, and I think that's probably the 90% of the wannabee Melee """""aspiring to be pros"""""" homosexuals.
He’s likable.
>a hobo is likeable
So it's Leffen for a lot of morons.
A hobo? Doesn’t he have a home and stable family?
PPMD's Falco was really fun to watch.
I don't just hate the players, I hate the games too. The Smash community is how Sonicgays used to be back in the 2000s but they were mostly kids and teens, these are grown ass men who are homeless, pedophiles, murderers rapists and so on, they've done it all. Outside of Chris-chan Sonicgays grew up so where do we go with Smash subhumans?
>where do we go with Smash subhumans
Becoming 24/7 Ganker posters
They made these fat fricks skinny at least give mew2king some hair jesus christ
Does anyone have that pic which explains who plays which character? I unironically relate to it very much.