Why are western games, specially wrpgs so easy?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    made for a western market (brain dead retards)

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Aw hell yes another twitter thread I love twitter thread

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    low effort twitter screencap thread

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring isn't difficult. It's just retarded. If you want an actually difficult game, play Far Cry 5 on the hardest difficulty and try to survive the opening car chase that they never properly playtested.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      rpgs got popular because D&D neckbeards wanted to experience ''fantasy books'' in a virtual reality rather than on paper
      basically they exist as escapist power fantasies and nothing ruins power fantasies quicker than a challenge that makes you restart a battle or dungeon over and over and over until the player improves and doesn't just passively upgrade his character through levels or gear.

      a huge reason why Western devs hate Souls games, and Fromsoft, is because they don't use all the typical rpg conventions of hand-holding, excessive exposition, quest markers everywhere, quest helpers everywhere, explicit instructions on where to go, piss easy combat where the game basically plays itself, and all manner of power fantasy tropes to make the player FEEL like he's le epic good gamer, when in fact he just grinded some shitty loot for 6 hours to progress to the next zone

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing ruins power fantasies quicker than a challenge that makes you restart a battle or dungeon over and over and over until the player improves and doesn't just passively upgrade his character through levels or gear
        justify your claim

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Far cry games are only mildly difficult and enjoyable on the hardest difficulty

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      High difficulty in games with hitscan weapons just end up being fucking boring waiting in cover and spamming grenades.

      High difficulty in low level runs of Souls require player action, spacing, dodge skills and cunning.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >low level runs of Souls
        This is a contended for easiest """challenge run"""

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe in DS1 where you can use OP as fuck things and dab on endgame bosses in seconds.

          In ER you get into one shot territory for most attacks as soon as you get to Lyndell, and if you use the shield physick, you get 2 shots.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This. I remember doing a SL1 DS1 run and shitting on the game with busted Pyromancies because they don't scale off anything.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >and try to survive the opening car chase that they never properly playtested
      motherfuckers, I knew that chase was fucked

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You always pick the easy difficulty
    watching other people play it

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    meanwhile in jrpgs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's overhyping it.
      TLR is not that complicated, it's just that most information is obscured from the player. Obviously this is not the case for the PC version because the data is laid bare by modern tools.
      Try playing an old RPG like the original Wasteland without a manual, that's TLR.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't be too harsh on the jarpig weeb. TLR is the 1st complex game they've played in their entire waifu-pillow hugging life so it stand to reason why they praise that mediocre tactical game. As some anon said before, Dawn of War 2 is the more complex and in-depth TLR than TLR will ever be and that game is touted as dumbed down to chad western strategy gamer.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gb2reddit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >watching zoomers argue over which zoomzoom title is the most high iq
            Meanwhile more than half you fucks would get filtered by early-game copyprotection in older shit, because you wouldn't be able to figure out how to read the manual.

            Not an argument

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              source?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sauce

                say the n word 3 times and I'll post it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron moron moron
                i would have said it either way

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              sauce

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              not hot

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >watching zoomers argue over which zoomzoom title is the most high iq
          Meanwhile more than half you fucks would get filtered by early-game copyprotection in older shit, because you wouldn't be able to figure out how to read the manual.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To compare TLR and DoW2 takes advanced insanity. Commendable, but I reject your assertion.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >To compare TLR and DoW2 takes advanced insanity
            I don't see what's so insane about it. Both are squad-based tactical RPG game. It's just that TLR gives more option to customize your squad(union) but literally everything else about it are downright inferior compared to DoW2 especially the tactical combat part.

            moron moron moron
            i would have said it either way

            Based

            https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yI0upQ3TgbFB9FNGgdpJqoT8HdCcmxsD/view

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why not just link the original website that hosted it like a normal person?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              any more artists that do long animations like those?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nothing said in those tweets has anything to do with being easy or even combat at all. It's also all truth, with the caveat that most WRPGs have shit quest design nowadays as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who gives a shit about quest design, almost all side quests in every game are literally designed to artificially extend the game’s runtime, at least the side content in Elden Ring was just neat little challenges you just happen to come across and not the same fetch quest or “follow this blood trail” you get in this gay’s piece of shit garbage Horizon games.
      I bet this fucking gay hates Elden Ribg too for not having blatant effeminate men or trannies in it too.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every Single aspect in OP is true

    Performance in the game is/was bad
    So was quest Design
    So was graphics
    So was balancing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Quest design bad
      Because no western style hand holding , tutorials and quest markers with explicit memory instructions?
      >Balance bad
      It's bad when player has to get good instead of just having QTE and braindead combat like in western open world games!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lol Soulsdrone detektei.
        Funny how you ignore the other major issues because you know you have no rebuttal.
        >Le handholding
        If i met an NPC and i want to finish or met the NpC further you have few options: in modern games you get a marker where the npc is going to be or in oldschool games you have your journal where he is probably going to be. I elden ring you have nothing you must either find them through sheer luck, through autistic search or through a guide.
        That is Bad game Design.
        >Le qte
        Elden Ring is unbalanced in pvp and in pve. There are extremly op builds that make the game piss easy that were never fixed.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All insanely OP shit like Rivers of Blood, Hoarfrost, Bloodhound Step, Bloody Slash, Fingerprint Shield were nerfed hard.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Elden Ring bad because it has good and bad builds and the good builds make it easier
          no shit, it's almost like it's an rpg. difference is you don't need builds you can progress fine with crap loot just get gud and learn to play
          >If i met an NPC and i want to finish or met the NpC further you have few options: in modern games you get a marker where the npc is going to be or in oldschool games you have your journal where he is probably going to be.
          the markers seem like QoL changes but actually remove any thinking and seeking required which makes discovery & exploration in wrpgs so bland and unsatisfying, while discovering shit in cryptic From games is surprisingly satisfying
          I'd rather have the cryptic system than the gay handholding system where it feels like the game is playing itself and the player is just along for a ride

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no shit, it's almost like it's an rpg
            >hurr durr it le rpg so boring and imbalanced gameplay that makes it babymode is OK
            never ever listen to retarded soulsdrone when it comes to gameplay.

            >the markers seem like QoL changes but actually remove any thinking and seeking required which makes discovery & exploration in wrpgs so bland and unsatisfying,
            Play more game other than Skyrim and even then Skyrim have a fuckload more interesting exploration compared to
            >hurr durr jump to secret ledge x100
            of Souls gameplay

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>hurr durr it le rpg so boring and imbalanced gameplay that makes it babymode is OK
              the amount of rpgs that have OP builds or allow you to get OP by grinding vastly outnumber the rpgs that don't. If Souls didn't have that shit most players wouldn't be able to beat it and they'd refuse to call it an rpg rather they'd say its more like Ninja Gaiden or DMC and pass it up

              >Skyrim
              braindead combat walking sim, no thanks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You're a gigantic dumbfuck.
          Most ER quests give you a key item with a description of where that NPC might be going or what they're looking for.
          That acts like the game's "quest log" and you can do the quests in any order, even in the mid to lategame, the only thing that breaks quests is burning the Erdtree and going to the very endgame.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Schalt mal lieber dein Autokorrekt aus, Idiot.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What a horrid language

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              German is unbearable
              Problem is I live in germany

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then fuck off, you're free to go.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you must either find them through sheer luck
          wrong. by each bonfire there's a list of NPCs and they added markers.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Western fps
    >Savescumming is a feature and encouraged
    Yeah they're all piss easy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>nip jarpig
      is a feature and encouraged
      Yeah they're all piss easy

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they’re designed to appeal to the lowest common denominator for maximum profit, and the lowest common denominator is an actual fucking retard.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would love to hear any of the Elden Ring UX/UI detractors talk about COD MWII's UI. Worst I've used in any game in years, menus upon menus just to do something as simple as customize a gun, everything oriented horizontally so it takes forever to scroll

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i hate ubishit so much it's unreal

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in retrospect, they were right

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >UX

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      UI and UX are garbage ever since poojeets all decided to copy Destiny 2 but Elden Ring is the same shit anyway.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i fail to see the problem with your pic. the only gripe i have is that you aren't shown your encumbrance percentage like in DS2 and 3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >squares squares squares
      >everywhere you look fucking squares
      When did menu UI become some of the drabbest shit imaginable? Even Dragon's Dogma is guilty of this shit years prior, but at least it tried to blend in thematically with the world the devs created. Futuristic settings all have boxes that glow, they're really setting themselves apart with that design choice. Medieval games on the other hand are just fancy text, lists, and the most boring squares imaginable. All this coupled by the most boring backgrounds imaginable, like the developers are afraid any semblance of a pattern or something moving subtlety will trigger a player's autism so they'll just stare at it all day.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese don't bleed the videogame budget into gnomish pedophile hands and have nothing to show for it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they do now
      all japanese games are starting to pander to garden gnomes with "body types" and pronouns instead of male/female, shoving morons and ugly everywhere, etc
      in 2-5 years japanese games will be just as bad as western games

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But Elden ring DOES have terrible UX, graphics and quest design? What's the problem here?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >terrible menus
      no one cares about menus lmfao dumb devs
      >muh GRAPHICS
      fuck off zoomer
      >bad quest design because no handholding where are my QUEST MARKERS and detailed step-by-step instructions! What do you mean I have to read stuff and think?!

      >whats the problem here
      you suck at gaming, back to walking sims and movie games with u

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What do you mean I have to read stuff and think?!
        Reading what "stuff" and thinking in what terms helps you understand what random place the npc has teleported this time?

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because western players don't want to be challenged. If the masses are ignorant and dumb, they're easier to control.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are western chud devs so obsessed with ux? It feels like this obsession came out of nowhere.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The tech industry is incredibly bloated if you haven't noticed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's another thing not related to gameplay or challenge, but instead related to presentation.

      western devs are failed artists of some sort, writers, graphic designers, movie biz guys, etc. so its no wonder they obsess over superficial secondary issues, they make movie-walking-sim games, and encourage game journos to think about games ''as le ART'' rather than what they are meant to be

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ubisoft
    their only notable game in the last decade had fucking rabbits in it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not true. Rainbow Six Siege was off to a pretty solid start, then it was like the game itself took HRT drugs.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Americans ARE FUCKING STUPID. They have regressed to an abysmal state.

    If you can't see the obvious now, you're fucked yourself. I don't even know how half of you monkies operate your cellphones.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bro dont pretend that JRPGs are complex in any way

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >my life is a lie
    it is a lie. you were led to believe that UX is a thing. You were swindled by a charlatan to exploit you to code their skinner box.
    now, will you take the red pill or the blue pill, game dev?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Make bad game
    >Mediocre nip game does better
    Can't imagine why

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still farming outrage over Twatter comments made half a year ago
    Sad, really.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >half a year ago
      that's huge time in zoomer years

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't finish elden ring without cheats or coop, you're not a true gamer. This hobby has been diluted by shitheads that still shit their pants on a consistent basis.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wrpg have to account for all the new germans and basketball americans

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what the fuck is game ux

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's bad about Elden Ring's user experience?
    One of the things i love about Elden Ring is that there are these time saving streamlining elements like the ability to pick up items while on horseback. If it was a western game i would have to get off my horse, and have to hold one of the face buttons to make my character perform a 10 second long animation just to pick up a single item.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The fact he's an Ubisoft guy probably means he plays games as though he's brain dead.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >screencap of a twitter screencap of a different twitter thread

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