You have my respect more than 89 percent of this board.
>Sega publishes a Dengeki Bunko crossover fighting game >some of their own characters are in the game and there’s even a Green Hill Zone stage >don’t get the devs to make an all Sega fighter for them >the last fighting game related thing Sega put out was yet another version of Virtua Fighter 5, a 17 year old game
God, a Sega vs Capcom game would be a dream. Two of the biggest Japanese arcade giants crossing over, it’s so damn perfect
Yeah me too. Except melee. I'm stuck at that midpoint where I can beat anyone in my real life but when I fight pros i usually lose. So i just fuck around on Slippi.
I hate marvel fighting games, they're excessive combo simulators that turn 1 touch into death while wasting your time. Rather play that one game where everyone DOES have one-hit kills, it's more honest.
>Sega publishes a Dengeki Bunko crossover fighting game >some of their own characters are in the game and there’s even a Green Hill Zone stage >don’t get the devs to make an all Sega fighter for them >the last fighting game related thing Sega put out was yet another version of Virtua Fighter 5, a 17 year old game
God, a Sega vs Capcom game would be a dream. Two of the biggest Japanese arcade giants crossing over, it’s so damn perfect
I find it very easy to parse what's happening once you have a basic understanding of what the characters do. Marvel 3 has the best sound design in the genre, you can tell what's happening by the sound effects and voice clips even if too many effects are going off.
X-Factor zi can take it or leave it buy the formula was perfected by TvC
X-Factor's issue isn't how big the boosts are necessarily (though I think around Lv.2 is where the caps should've been) but more in how they're distributed. XF basically always prioritizes exaggerating what the character is already good at (Hulk & Haggar ONLY get more damage, Strider gets nearly double speed but his combos still eat up a chunk of XF time because they don't kill as fast). More all-around characters, who are already less volatile, get more balanced boosts, and guess how the game treats Vergil in this regard.
Baroque is totally universal and always has a risk-reward in exchange for the possibility of using it multiple times per game, it's a wonderful system and I wish Conversion in DNF Duel was a little more like it (though I think Conversion giving you meter instead of damage is a good idea since you're managing MP the whole game). Mega Crash on the other hand is a pretty hamfisted mechanic that kind of fucks up TvC's meta more than any one character.
>XF basically always prioritizes exaggerating what the character is already good at (
All characters get speed boost and damage increase as well as health regen. What are you talking about?
The percentage of speed and damage boosts vary per-character. Speed isn't even guaranteed: Hulk, Haggar, & Thor don't get any faster in X-Factor. For example, in Lv.3 X-Factor, Doom gets 70% more damage and 30% more speed, while Nemesis has 90% more damage and 10% more speed. Ideally XF would patch the holes in characters and allow them to try and come from behind, but the slow characters stay slow and easy to avoid while the fast mixup-heavy characters just get faster and get more damage from the new combo routes due to their speed than actually getting much more damage while sometimes being so fast they're almost unruly to control.
That's just false. Please show me Hulk, Haggar, & Thor moving faster in X-Factor. Even when you see somebody like KBR pop XF with Hulk or Haggar, his combos never change, not even in timing, because there's no change to the startup or recovery of moves, which is what XF Speed boosts increase along with movement.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You double moron. I mained Haggar and can tell you his combos and moves were faster in Xfactor lv3.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You double moron. I mained Haggar and can tell you his combos and moves were faster in Xfactor lv3.
I just checked the most official-feeling source of this kind of thing and you're both kind of right. Only Hulk and Thor get 0% speed boosts at all levels of X-Factor. Haggar gets 0% at Lv.1 but 5% & 10% at Lv.2-3. Honestly kind of bullshit, Thor really could've used even 10% speed.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Thor isn't an anchor so it doesn't matter.
1 week ago
Anonymous
If XF boosts were more evened out, way more characters could feasibly play Anchor. Mighty Spark is a good assist, and some characters can use Mighty Smash effectively. Thor having the speed to reliably set up tick throws without assist and get around his restrictive gatlings would give him real potential.
I put hours into both versions in their prime, but gradually lost interest in getting better as I folded more to ToD savants online. I do still like couch games, arcade modes and watching high-level sets.
I don't like the mahvel style of fightan it just doesn't appeal to me. I play on PC too so fightan is essentially DOA
I honestly think chrischan is going to end up with the thousands of homeless schizos in the streets at some point in his life.
There's no way he integrates into normal society at this point. Making fun of his current events stopped being funny over a decade ago. Really it was after his father died that everything went to shit.
I've touched it here and there over the years, but once the second full modpack of extra characters (not just from tabs) is out, I'm going in. When the rollback mod is done, I don't think I'll need another fighting game.
https://www.nexusmods.com/ultimatemarvelvscapcom3/mods/12
This is the largest and most used set of mod characters. There are other creators, through which you can get characters like X, Urien, Bison, Servbot, Iceman, Venom, Carnage, etc. but they aren't compatible with the technique that decouples mod characters from the base roster yet.
I would play it so much more if the online wasn’t garbage. I played it a bit with a friend and it was a terrible experience after playing a bunch of Strive and KI
It was finished a few days ago wasnt it
Not really extra slots but other characters can be properly loaded on alt costumes without getting rid of the original character
>other characters can be properly loaded on alt costumes without getting rid of the original character
This has been the case for like two years. The new mod actually adds new character files in the data, but mod characters need to be reworked for this. Only tabs has done this so far.
Did the DBFZ balance update hit, or have people just been posting weird Twitter videos?
If it is out did they gut Labcoat or is she still going to have people seething at me? As long as she's not bottom 1/3rd it'll be fine, because being bad + known MUs is cancer
Read it yourself. Use a translator because the English patch notes haven't been released for whatever reason.
https://dbfz.bn-ent.net/special/update1_32.php
wait, unless I misread there's no changes to 17
lame
And it's hard to tell if they did a lot of damage to Android 21.
Lots of buffs to Majin 21 though. I'll just anticipate a lot of seething should I ever jump back online
If this video is anything to go by, then the fusions and LC21 can't build a ton of meter anymore.
https://twitter.com/Soul_4_9/status/1660852403699167233
Yeah, turns out the real nerf was at the top of page. Didn't think it'd be this harsh. I guess it's my fault for really liking BudoTen 3, time to "fix" my team
Because I'm too good at fighting games. I'm at the tipping point where I'm too good but I'm not going to waste my life practicing combos for days just to win a tournament for $100. I'd rather just enjoy the games I play.
I am shit at fighting games, happy?
You are already better than Ganker for admitting that. Now get good.
You have my respect more than 89 percent of this board.
At least it has Akira and Pai chan(support).
Yeah me too. Except melee. I'm stuck at that midpoint where I can beat anyone in my real life but when I fight pros i usually lose. So i just fuck around on Slippi.
based if everyone just said that be okay with it Ganker would be a better place
This. I really wish this were anything but a fighting game because we'll never see firebrand again ;_;
leave it to japan to make marvelshit entertaining
It's not 2012 anymore
still rockin baby.
SUPER SCATTER SHOT
I hate marvel fighting games, they're excessive combo simulators that turn 1 touch into death while wasting your time. Rather play that one game where everyone DOES have one-hit kills, it's more honest.
>Rather play that one game where everyone DOES have one-hit kills
divekick?
I never liked 3 and 2 is dead.
LET'S BRING IT
POWER OF THE NOVA FORCE
BLUE BLAZES, I'M AWESOME
I love Mahvel baby
BIONIC
MORTALS ARE SO
W E A K
>NRS Marvel rumour got BTFO
thank god
RPCS3 is the preferred method for playing this now right
I want Sega or Jump vs. Capcom
Smash Bros.
Nah.
>Hornet vs. The Mach 5
I'd rather have tatsunoko vs sega
I want Marvel vs Tatsunoko vs Capcom or any 3 way crossover really
this but only if it's 20+ years ago before they started guzzling the 3Dslop
>Sega publishes a Dengeki Bunko crossover fighting game
>some of their own characters are in the game and there’s even a Green Hill Zone stage
>don’t get the devs to make an all Sega fighter for them
>the last fighting game related thing Sega put out was yet another version of Virtua Fighter 5, a 17 year old game
God, a Sega vs Capcom game would be a dream. Two of the biggest Japanese arcade giants crossing over, it’s so damn perfect
>Sega(SST, Yuzo, AM2) composers do the Capcom Side
>Capcom(CAPJAMs, 90s guys, some ARIKA) Composers do the SEGA tracks
>Mitsuyoshi does the opening
Never liked marvel 3. It's just visual noise to me.
I find it very easy to parse what's happening once you have a basic understanding of what the characters do. Marvel 3 has the best sound design in the genre, you can tell what's happening by the sound effects and voice clips even if too many effects are going off.
I don't play this particular game cause X-Factor is shit.
X-Factor zi can take it or leave it buy the formula was perfected by TvC
X-Factor's issue isn't how big the boosts are necessarily (though I think around Lv.2 is where the caps should've been) but more in how they're distributed. XF basically always prioritizes exaggerating what the character is already good at (Hulk & Haggar ONLY get more damage, Strider gets nearly double speed but his combos still eat up a chunk of XF time because they don't kill as fast). More all-around characters, who are already less volatile, get more balanced boosts, and guess how the game treats Vergil in this regard.
Baroque is totally universal and always has a risk-reward in exchange for the possibility of using it multiple times per game, it's a wonderful system and I wish Conversion in DNF Duel was a little more like it (though I think Conversion giving you meter instead of damage is a good idea since you're managing MP the whole game). Mega Crash on the other hand is a pretty hamfisted mechanic that kind of fucks up TvC's meta more than any one character.
>XF basically always prioritizes exaggerating what the character is already good at (
All characters get speed boost and damage increase as well as health regen. What are you talking about?
The percentage of speed and damage boosts vary per-character. Speed isn't even guaranteed: Hulk, Haggar, & Thor don't get any faster in X-Factor. For example, in Lv.3 X-Factor, Doom gets 70% more damage and 30% more speed, while Nemesis has 90% more damage and 10% more speed. Ideally XF would patch the holes in characters and allow them to try and come from behind, but the slow characters stay slow and easy to avoid while the fast mixup-heavy characters just get faster and get more damage from the new combo routes due to their speed than actually getting much more damage while sometimes being so fast they're almost unruly to control.
>Speed isn't even guaranteed:
Yes, ALL characters are faster when in Xfactor than normal. This varies only in lv1, lv2 or lv3 xfactor.
That's just false. Please show me Hulk, Haggar, & Thor moving faster in X-Factor. Even when you see somebody like KBR pop XF with Hulk or Haggar, his combos never change, not even in timing, because there's no change to the startup or recovery of moves, which is what XF Speed boosts increase along with movement.
You double moron. I mained Haggar and can tell you his combos and moves were faster in Xfactor lv3.
I just checked the most official-feeling source of this kind of thing and you're both kind of right. Only Hulk and Thor get 0% speed boosts at all levels of X-Factor. Haggar gets 0% at Lv.1 but 5% & 10% at Lv.2-3. Honestly kind of bullshit, Thor really could've used even 10% speed.
Thor isn't an anchor so it doesn't matter.
If XF boosts were more evened out, way more characters could feasibly play Anchor. Mighty Spark is a good assist, and some characters can use Mighty Smash effectively. Thor having the speed to reliably set up tick throws without assist and get around his restrictive gatlings would give him real potential.
I put hours into both versions in their prime, but gradually lost interest in getting better as I folded more to ToD savants online. I do still like couch games, arcade modes and watching high-level sets.
I honestly think chrischan is going to end up with the thousands of homeless schizos in the streets at some point in his life.
I don't like the mahvel style of fightan it just doesn't appeal to me. I play on PC too so fightan is essentially DOA
There's no way he integrates into normal society at this point. Making fun of his current events stopped being funny over a decade ago. Really it was after his father died that everything went to shit.
>I play on PC too so fightan is essentially DOA
Why does Ganker keep saying this when devs themselves admit PC is the most active?
Looks active to me. You one of those zoomer fucks that needs "big numbers go up" to fuel your tiny brain?
>175
>active
Are you retarded?
Are you? As long as there's two people playing it's active. Post a real dead game like Tobal #2 or something.
Suck it up.
The last genre of games you should be gatekeeping are Fightan games, anon.
very active
Fighting games require one other perso to play, you don't need mega fuck huge numbers retard.
NTA but aren't all of those people playing the ones that are such a high level that a new guy like me would be absolutely destroyed?
As long as there are two fighting game players left on the earth, someone is gonna want to body someone in Mahvel.
Unless they decide to play another fightan that is.
that’s incredibly impressive for a 10 year old game that is only playable with parsec
Is it really him? No way they let him walk away after his confession of commiting a crime
I've touched it here and there over the years, but once the second full modpack of extra characters (not just from tabs) is out, I'm going in. When the rollback mod is done, I don't think I'll need another fighting game.
I want the rollback mod to come out.
However, how do I play the new character mods?
https://www.nexusmods.com/ultimatemarvelvscapcom3/mods/12
This is the largest and most used set of mod characters. There are other creators, through which you can get characters like X, Urien, Bison, Servbot, Iceman, Venom, Carnage, etc. but they aren't compatible with the technique that decouples mod characters from the base roster yet.
I would play it so much more if the online wasn’t garbage. I played it a bit with a friend and it was a terrible experience after playing a bunch of Strive and KI
I found my team.
I only play Marvel vs Capcom 2
waiting for the extra character slots thing to be fully finished.
It was finished a few days ago wasnt it
Not really extra slots but other characters can be properly loaded on alt costumes without getting rid of the original character
Nah, the mod Maximillian paid for has extra character slots at the bottom of the screen like the old games had.
>other characters can be properly loaded on alt costumes without getting rid of the original character
This has been the case for like two years. The new mod actually adds new character files in the data, but mod characters need to be reworked for this. Only tabs has done this so far.
I could imagine Chris barely getting by on gibs from enablers, maybe put in a home
meant for
No versus mode against the CPU.
X factor exists
player lobbies go back to character slect everytime.
so its a pass for me.
also assists are obnoxiously strong
Never forget
*farts*
Mahvel and all tag games suck
I suck at all mahvel and all tag games*
That too, but tags are gay. KoF style is much superior
Did the DBFZ balance update hit, or have people just been posting weird Twitter videos?
If it is out did they gut Labcoat or is she still going to have people seething at me? As long as she's not bottom 1/3rd it'll be fine, because being bad + known MUs is cancer
Read it yourself. Use a translator because the English patch notes haven't been released for whatever reason.
https://dbfz.bn-ent.net/special/update1_32.php
wait, unless I misread there's no changes to 17
lame
And it's hard to tell if they did a lot of damage to Android 21.
Lots of buffs to Majin 21 though. I'll just anticipate a lot of seething should I ever jump back online
If this video is anything to go by, then the fusions and LC21 can't build a ton of meter anymore.
https://twitter.com/Soul_4_9/status/1660852403699167233
Yeah, turns out the real nerf was at the top of page. Didn't think it'd be this harsh. I guess it's my fault for really liking BudoTen 3, time to "fix" my team
Because I'm too good at fighting games. I'm at the tipping point where I'm too good but I'm not going to waste my life practicing combos for days just to win a tournament for $100. I'd rather just enjoy the games I play.
Capeshit Fighters are just as bad as Tranime Fighters
>my japanese video game is morally righteous while yours is not
drink bleach while slitting your wrists in case one of them doesn't take
I am eternally sneeding at spiderman's lame moveset/competitive viability
I can't get into it. I'll just stick with Guilty Gear.
Good question.
I don't like the crushed blacks artstyle of MVC3 and I don't like the MCU artstyle of MVC:I. MVC1 and MVC2 are very fun though.
Cause i want another TvC-like VS game
its took a great game and shat on it. thats why i dont play this. finished the story mode and packed it away
Too lazy to get good at fighting games.
for the same reason I lose interest in every hyper fighter: I don't want to spend hours learning 5 minute long combos in training mode.
love her
I prefer KoF