Why did Blizzard bring Chris Metzen back? Take 3 minutes and watch the latest cinematic for the new patch. Aside from the dialogue written by a 10 year old we have legit gone full on MCU AVENGERS ASSEMBLE.
This is legit fucking awful, awful writing. Remember when the Alliance and Horde came together only at the end of the world to fight back the legion in WC3? Man those were good times.
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Can Metzen even save this franchise? He killed StarCraft lore.
Metzen's contributions to WC are just ripping a fat rail off his doomhammer picking something from DnD/warhammer and adding his 'badass' 90s metalhead twist to it.
He's literally just an ideas guy who was in the right place at the right time, in spite of what blizzdrones think he's not some story smith who can salvage 20 years of pants-on-head retarded bullshit (some of which he is responsible for).
All of that is true and yet it's still a large improvement over recent lore.
I'm not here to defend betauser's epic of suevanis. I'm just saying I don't think all the coke in the world is enough to right the ship.
The 90s metalhead twist wasn't even his, it's in the fucking source material he cribs.
who cares wow vanilla is a colourful fantasy game that is enjoyable with nice visuals and audio identity quit being such a bitch if it wasnt good it wouldnt been loved by millions
dnd and warhammer probably ripped shit off as well come on now
yea it was good
its not now
I remember realizing that the whole Amon plot was literally a re-hash of Sargeras's original pre-chronicles plot.
>Xel'naga all cool and uplifting races and shit
>but one Xel'naga said IT'S ALL FLAWED and was banished to the void
Ok Metzen.
He helped kill WoW. Theyre incredibly desperate to get back even a million players, because right now its about 200,000.
He was the one who created his self insert green Jesus and turned orcs into dindunuffin nignogs lol
More context?
>t. don't play wow
It's exactly what it sounds like.
Thrall, leader of the orcs, turns to nature and walks around in robes and sandals.
The orcs changed from a world invading savage tribes people to really being oppressed all along and just needing a place to live.
How the fuck was the oppression justified storywise when in the past every green buck loved to war?
They got green and angry because of demon fel magic practices, and then the color became genetic without fel
That's retarded. I will now plap every orc's anus agape in vengeance.
>The orcs changed from a world invading savage tribes people to really being oppressed all along and just needing a place to live.
My favourite plot twist they ever pulled was portraying the fucking alt. Draenor brown orcs as victims of the Draenei. "Oh no, we genocided their entire race twice over, but now they are opressing US?! Oh I can't breath, I can't breath!!!"
israel vs gaza
fitting, because the draenei are based on israelites
https://evilkitten3.tumblr.com/post/173781307623/evilkitten3-israeli-wow-fans-the-draenei-are-so
Fuck me, now you made me remember how Cataclysm entire storyline is garbage, instead of focusing in all the aspects relationships with Deathwing in the past and their future its just about GREEN JESUS becoming THE EARTH DRAGON ASPECT AND IS THE ONE WHO SHOOTS THE DRAGONSTONE INTO DEATHWING, fuck me.
all the stupid fucks replaying Cata "classic" will be able to replay the questline about Thrall's wife screaming GOEL GOEL GEOL GOEL GOEL
you can't save whats already long dead
He is a complete retard if he actually joined Blizzard now and was not doing shit behind the curtain before, because if he joined now his decisions will only affect the WoW lore after 6 or 7 years so he will be criticized by shit that was not planned by him, but I hope that he is the talks with blizzard since the middle of Shadowlands so there's hope that everything coming from next expansion will be actually be tailor made by him.
But no, he will not be able to save the franchise, people don't care about the remaining iconic characters in the game.
>can the person that killed, wow save wow ?
Metzen lost what little edge he had when his daughter asked him why the WoW thots were wearing bikini armor. Not that it mattered much, since he ruined StarCraft long before that.
>Let's kick this revolution into OVERDRIVE!!11
>Let's kick this revolution into OVERDRIVE!!11
Fuck you. I had finally forgotten this line existed and you reminded me of it. The is worse than the time I lost The Game
The franchise is unsalvageable. After Shadowlands there was no fixing it, and Dragonflight only made things worse.
There is no alternative, so no matter how bad they make wow most won't leave. This is why they safely hired all these incompetent women, they know they have a locked in audience paying those subs.
The player base that they have right now is very likely smaller than that of Fallout 76 or ESO. They are coming into Microsoft with a bunch of dead GaaS games that have a worse outlook than what Microsoft already has.
I left like a decade ago bro
No. He was in WoW up until Legion meaning he was responsible for the decline in the lore. He just wasn't here for the actual murder and desecration of said lore but he couldn't write a good story to save his fucking life.
MoP has by far the best and most consistent lore of a WoW expansion. But I get it you're a Gankerermin shitstain who has to screech that billions must die about everything until your inevitable suicide.
>Garrosh heel turning into a villain for no reason
>good
>ultimately lead to his death and then vaporizing into nothingness in SL
yeah okay you fucking retard
wasn't his SL scene the most poggers/based thing that happened in the whole expansion?
From a character perspective? Yeah, it was great. From a writing perspective? Waste of a fucking character for no actual good reason. It was just done to remove a "problematic" character they don't want to deal with. Kinda like how Baine did fucking nothing but sit on his ass during SL. writers are shit
>Baine did fucking nothing but sit on his ass during SL
>Baine skipped Choreghast and SL dailies
Baised
Yes but only because Garrosh was able to remove himself from the game while still looking like a Chad, so players - who had also left the game - admired that
It was great before SoO.
The sha, thunder king, the full out was between alliance and horde again.
Then they went full retard and we all know what expo came after that.
While I like MoP, it was a massive mistake in aesthetics and turned a lot of people off and never really recovered. It's why WoD got so many people hyped - it was a "return to form" and the massive disappointment in WoD resulted in Blizzard never releasing player numbers ever again
>furry races, devolved titan creations and old god worshipping bugs
That is just regular wow. They should slap Lei Shen on the cover and get rid of the name PANDAria. The panda focus on promotion was fucking retarded. Chen doesnt even do shit other than that one dungeon.
why the fuck did they give her korean tiktok puffy eyes make up?
>korean tik tok pop band gives a performance at thi year's blizzcon
>overwatch has a korean tik tok pop band tie in with related skins
*tik tok huh sound*
well, that's the only good thing in this shitshow
Why does Alexstrasa turn into her avatar form when she gets hit? That makes no sense at all, she IS the dragon, not an elf that turns into a dragon.
Why do the dragon terrorists even have avatar forms, surely they're dragon supremacists right? Why would they want to take on the form of a mortal?
>Why do the dragon terrorists even have avatar forms, surely they're dragon supremacists right? Why would they want to take on the form of a mortal?
Well that is just rule of cool which is what we want out of blizzard
It's like MCU heroes wearing helmets that cover their faces. They take them off when they need to emote.
Because they are fucking hacks and needed to elicit an emotional response and that would be harder to do if she looked like a raid boss tier dragon. Which is funny if you think about it because they are low key making her look the part of a damsel in distress despite how much woke slop they shoved into the expansion.
>Why did Blizzard bring Chris Metzen back?
He is the face of Warcraft, begging players to come back home after selling them the next three expansions.
>"Azeroth needs it's defenders more than ever"
Or "Blizzard needs you more than ever"
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jesus fucking christ man stop saying epic it's not 2007 anymore
He also had a load of other people who actually cared about the setting there to keep his stupid shit in check (largely).
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Glad you saved it, i thought it'd come in usefull!
>Aside from the dialogue written by a 10 year old we have legit gone full on MCU AVENGERS ASSEMBLE.
If he beat back everyone then it would've been pretty cool to establish his threat level. That's why it worked in the MCU, Thanos fucking won.
As it is he's just some mook, plus using the exact same line as Garrosh talking to Thrall to the exact same 'not helpless and never alone' bullshit is just sad.
I never played WoW, only WC3. Is the voice acting really this bad?
wow was ok till cata. There was some good dungeons and raid and interesting lore parts. Despite BC Draeney retcon iwas fun to be in Warcraft universe. But then Metzen came and shit on WoW lore in Cata. And there was huge subs drop
The drop in subs directly lines up with how much content was produced. Blizzard was working on Titan aka Overwatch during Wrath-Cata-MoP and so cut the content for their "less content but quicker!" philosophy since they pulled over half the devs away from WoW and put it into maintenance mode
Metzen is probably just giving them a vague outline for wtf to do with the next expansions.
You can imagine them all in a board room, fat, smelly, colored hair, reddit references on their casual friday shirts, all incredibly interested leaning in to listen to metzen like he shits gold because they are just so utterly talentless
>a lean, hunchback dude on fire
Why does the villian look so pathetic? He looks like some regular questmobs.
he does look like one of the regular mobs. and the dragon he transforms into is a proto drake from like 5 expacs ago
He's just a toady, that's why he's got big Starscream energy.
The better question is how are these guys a threat? Isn't the lore that Alex and the aspects pushed their shit in so hard nobody bothered to think about them for 15k years? Wasn't this before she got the titan juice too so that shouldn't factor in.
True, he does give big Starscream energy.
But the writers seem to have forgotten that Starscream characters only work if you see their boss talking down to them and showing off how much more powerful and threatening he is than them often enough to create that dynamic.
Starscream by himself is lame and wimpy. It's only when he's bantering with and getting chewed out by Megatron that he becomes fun to watch and a clear, larger threat is established.
This is one of those episodes where Megatron peaced out. Iridkron fled to the void or something that would involve the next expansion.
LMAO is that fucking real? The stone dude's not going to be the final boss of dragonflight?
Not even blizzard can be that retarded.
They were smart enough to say instead of Iridikrond is the final boss like they did with Grom in WoD, they said you'd see the final boss in the Vault of the Incarnates cutscene.
Everyone assumed it was Iridikron but it gave them enough leeway to just say it's Fryakk
That's why the "World Soul Trilogy" was announced, this is going to be the final patch of Dragonflight.
Megatron will probably get the Garrosh treatment since they want the Waifu Dagger to be the villain it seems.
I remember in legion they had Steve Blum doing his starscream voice for one of the quest mobs.
People are writing starscream better these days thanks to
>Armada
>IDW
>Netflix
The Incarnates are so confusing to outside players I feel like it was almost a bad decision.
The idea is that they're protodragon gods, so being primitive dragons, they can't transform into elves and humans and shit and have to make due with weird forms.
But like, they're all weird model choices that don't tell people at the very least what they are.
because BFA & Sneedolands lore shit the bed so hard that people were desperate and want metzen to save them forgetting that he was also responsible for schlock like Cata and WoD. it was honestly a brilliant move by then, it's been a huge marketing boost from people wanting to
go back to the "good ol days"
That was fucking embarrassing.
I play WoW for the amazing cutscenes
>a race of space aliens with literal space ship able to warp anywhere shooting light lasers just joined the faction
>anyway here's a QUEEN riding a flying ship that she uncovered from below the sea where it was sat for decades, and btw it shoots arcane barrage out of its cannons!
At this moment I knew BfA is gonna suck urban youth ass.
The first rule of lore is you don't talk about the exodar and/or TK and/or whatever the fuck the lightforged's exodar is called.
Having access to orbital ion cannons and spaceships tends to invite more questions than wow's story can handle.
not to mention night elves make up the backbone of the druids (and druids in lore are some of the most powerful beings), gnomes have nukes, and humans have sheer population
Druids are weird, they still sometimes play the lol no fighting bro card out for them
It's the same old problem of the writers liking the horde a lot more, so they force the narrative to keep the horde around.
They really should have removed the dual faction system ages ago.,
In most "gamey" fantasy settings, power level doesn't make any sense. A guy who fights with a sword cannot co-exist in a world where another guy can summon meteors. The entire thing is retarded at its very core.
Most of the time the guy who can summon meteors is incredibly rare, basically a god. Or the guy takes so long to summon a meteor he's the equivalent of an ancient chinese artillary.
Powerful on paper, but ineffective against an army of horseback archers.
I mean you 100% can - you just have warriors use an internal power like Ki or Aura or some other bullshit. You can even explain it away by Rage being made manifest and ending up with "Man literally too angry to die" just powering through being bombarded with shit
>By all rights Malfurion should be able to casually solo Sylvanas' invasion in BFA
>He instead gets punked by her when Saurfang used Throw Weapon
BFA was an utter shitshow from the very start.
I'm not even a huge fan of night elves but in lore they should have the strongest standing army with malfurion being literally one of the strongest characters lm
Is this what the people of Azeroth calls "magic"? A Apprentice of the House Telvanni would had done that better.
Go back to choking on volcaninc ash, ESnagger.
>Filthy N'wah thinks magic doesnt fix those problems
Perhaps for your pitiful magics that might pose a problem
Then feel free to go back to sucking your eggs, dipshit.
I will N'wah, its better then the garbage you call food.
I'll think about inferior you are as i eat them.
Here, lemme warm them up for you.
I live next to a volcano thats literally nothing to me
Hell all dunmers have a 50% resistance to fire
You make me laugh n'wah
What you retards needed to do with 1000+ mages, a Master in Destruction does in a Tirdas when he is drunk on nordic beer and one sip of fortify destruction.
>Dungmer
>Chad
Lol.
No.
TES is the better Warcraft and Faithful even to War3 and classic dark rpg lore.
Modern Warcraft is capeshit for MCU fags since TBC
TES is garbage that was written during a drug binge. It's only recognized for Skyrim memes and the rare Oblivion memes.
>waaaoow girlboss slaaaaay
female/dyke writer self-inserts are the cringiest shit to ever exist
WoW cutscenes used to be kino. How the fuck has everything become so shit?
it was pretty forgettable
No im not gonna watch
The worst part is that they've gone full 'Avengers Assemble' on a villain so lame, irrelevant and nonthreatening that it doesn't even feel remotely earned.
Like they're trying so fucking hard to push Firak as a legitimate threat but the dude has literally never done anything to earn that status and feels like a saturday morning cartoon villain (literally him running away at the end was equivalent to a bad guy running away yelling "I'll get you next time Spiderman!" on one of those spiderman cartoons from the 90s).
Like holy shit just stop. Firak is so fucking lame and useless as a villain.
>Firak is so fucking lame and useless as a villain.
All the villains from Dragonflight are incredibly lame. The most cringeworthy part of all of this is addict players trying to pretend like this is good writing so they don't have to admit they're playing a trash game
these niggas look like they would be bionicle or ben 10 villains from the 2000s or some shit. Art style is fucked
those three are a step in the right direction as they have actual motivations and an actual argument for their cause. the ice one turning her coat is lame though, and they'd never have her backstab the crew
they still have a LONG way to go before they even come close to WC3 Arthas, even the minor 'badguys' are still beyond them, like Garithos, Sylvanas and Kelthuzad
They're a 2/10 when Jailer was a 0/10. Blizzard writers are graded on such a generous curve, it's ridiculous.
is the gril one ded?
She's the one that flips and decides that maybe fucking destroying everything is not a good idea
>Vyranoth didn't do fucking shit except betray them because Alex cried.
Remind me again how killing the night elf soul tree undoes what the titans did? The entire cause is side lined the moment these fucks escaped.
Not Megatron is literally a void nagger meaning right off the bat his goal is "Old Gods/ Void good" which should mean "Oh shit our brother wants to return the world to hell". These fags would have seen the black empire considering they were alive before the Titans arrived.
Firak is just enjoying murder the whole time and now his plan is to dab on some random NE shit. Wasn't the tree created to replace the old tree? Like some kind of divine gift to the NE's for enduring genocide? What the fuck does it have to do with shit?
Where was the PLAN to remove the TITAN STAIN at all?
I actually refuse to read any of this. Metzen is just going to retcon it anyway because it's Danuserslop and Shadowlands already appears to be mostly retconned from the next three expansions, other than Anduin's ptsd
They aren't going to retconn it because Sylvanas is still there and Iridikron's Void Mcguffin will be crucial to the next expansion.
Also, it's clearly meant for the fag saying these villains are well written.
I have an appreciation for dysfunctional villain parties, but the Incarnates are TOO dysfunctional. So dysfunctional that the only one who had her head fixated on their cause is now dropping that entirely.
Hold up lmao I watched some cutscene a year ago and thought the guy in the middle was the bad guy and the current bad guy is just him powered up with fire, who tf are these goobers
All three of them were freed from their prison at the same time in the final of the first raid.
they look like fucking cartoon network villains. its baffling to think that this is the same game i played 12 years ago.
Same with DND itself and almost every single “nerd” franchise. Even the sciences themselves have been dumbed down and Disneyfied to not offend the unwashed masses
Chris Metzen returning is a pressure release valve
while Blizzard knows who their current base is they still want to scrap a few extra lapsed players off the barrel
so there goes Metzen, functioning as a hopeful hype hydraulic
I would argue Kerrigan simping is worse than World of Syvanlascraft
Yeah, but no one ever though SCII's treatment of Kerrigan was handled well. I mean once you reach poochie meme status you know even the normies have turned on you.
When you research the catalog of Blizzard's female villains it's laughable how bad they've treated them, the best ones are all the ones that got very limited time in the writing room, and as a consequence became the most beloved by the fans
>Whitemane(who really remained untouched til SL since Vanilla, Cata and MoP were mere occasions due to the dungeon changing)
>Onyxia(the most writing she got was in media outside the game)
>Vanessa Vancleef
>Lady Vashj
>Jandice Barov
>Grand Widow Faerlina
>Magetha Grimtotem
>Blood Queen Lana'thel
>Lady Liadrin( if Alliance, back when Blood Knights weren't fucking pussies)
I would have been fine with Whitemain as a death knight if her Death Knight armor at least resembled her scarlet garbs.
They didn't even try with her.
>Whitemane
SEXIEST WarCraft character by far.
Tyrande gets an honourable second place.
Good taste
Death knight Whitemane is one of the lowest points of legion, and I had forgot about it.
>one of the most iconic characters of the whole
>lol it's a generic death knight now
They really dropped the ball with the four horsemen 2.0, and I loved the deatj knight class hall quests.
What's wrong with DK whitemane? Seems like perfect cosmic justice to me.
The real head-scratcher is Nazgrim, what did he do to deserve eternal suffering?
The problem is that when people think Whitemane they think priest Whitemane from scarlet crusade. No one, not even dk players, think about death knight Whitemane.
really missed an opportunity. Whitemane i agree made an excellent choice for a death knight but she should have been the figurehead of a unholy ranged fighting style, but she just uses the standard big sword
>Ranged unholy
I will gut you where you stand
i will be the leader of the damned and melt my victims with blasts of disease and shadow and feed them to my army of minions
>Pushing ranged unholy
>Actually just a seething necrofag
Pottery and never ever.
I don't even play wow but necro/tinkerfag seetheing sustains me.
Honest to god cursing the character who hated Undeath the most and had very justifiable reasons is really, really bogus writing.
The problem with DK Whitemane is she isn't sexy. The opportunity for a sexy DK armor was squandered.
They took away her hat
Nazgrim was the only one of the 3 riders that was actually happy to have the chance to fight again
I feel like Blizzard forgot that being a death knight is meant to be actively painful if you aren't inflicting suffering on others in your place and a horrible horrible fate.
Well I mean most of the new riders are former villains so it's fair I guess.
Yeah, but I was specifically talking about honorable tragic Nazgrim, who did nothing to deserve eternal suffering and having his soul sent to hell (I'm sure the last part was retconned in shadowlands regarding dk souls).
Whitemane, for example, deserved it.
I mean it works out for Nazgrim because he loves to fight.
>Soul sent to hell
Retconned by SL but I mean at the same time that was a retarded concept to begin with.
No, Sylvanas was sent to the Maw as part of J'lor's plan to use her. Undead are not supposed to go to the Maw just by being undead.
is that truth for the 4th gen death knights though? it was for the 3rd, which would be the ones Arthas rose under his service as Lich King
They forgot all about undeath being an existence of suffering when the plot for the forsaken became about trying to proliferate their race so that they wouldn't die out.
To be fair the Forsaken kind of embraced their state in the RPG. Obviously making more Forsaken was a retarded idea, the focus should have been on a cure or compromise.
>character has iconic design
>ruin it by giving her generic dk armor
Also, I hate how everyone they raise turns into a generic death knight with plate and a runesword. The Warcraft 3 death knights were like that because they were fallen human knights and paladins. Did Whitemane suddenly learn how to use a sword when she died? Why not make her a shadow priestess or necromancer instead?
Disgusting
>WHITEmane RIDES an EBON blade
What a subtle way to say she's a coalburner now
Worgen whitemane would've been far better
The scarlet crusade was utterly wasted in and after wotlk and to some degree in vanilla too.
A lot of modern players didnt even know who he was. he left almost 10 years ago.
>People spend the last 3 expansions complaining about capeshit.
>Get Metzens standards of capeshit in return
Yeah, that's on you lot.
This character was hated by Metzen though, that's why Garona was made Medivh's daughter in the movie.
As it should be since metzen heloped with Warcarft 1 Lore and Warcraft 2 Manual where Garona WAS Half Human and Half Orc.
The Half Draenei shit was desperate retcon by fucking dave Kosak to shill TBC since by the time TBC hit metzen lost his position as loremaster and quest writer to him thanks to Tom "Elmer FUDD" Chilton, the guy who fired all of the Pre-Alpha and beta devs to hire his EQ buddies at release.
Classic WoW is still Metzen's writing, TBC and onwards was Chilton and Friends since Metzen and the old crew were dealing with Brevik's backstab that ruined Blizzard and Bill Ropper's friendship and Killed the Diablo Ip and Starcraft Ghost, which also includes Warcraft Adventures Cancellation and he suggesting to hire "Chris Goldenberg" to write Lord of Clans
All of Blizzard's problems post Starcraft are all related to Brevik and Blizzard North Wanting to rule what the main company should do
is it wrong to say warcraft writing was never good and wanting metzen back is just a cope? i thought his self insert jokes every. other. fucking. line. during blizzcon was the most avengers 2 shit i have ever seen
The lore was full of a lot of empty gaps before and those were interesting to explore. They also have a lot of characters that used to be kind of cool if you didn't look into them too much. The lore youtubers and theorists turned the game's story into something more interesting than it actually was. Kinda like the Zelda timeline. There was enough shown and even more hidden to spark the imagination. WoW kept explaining shit though and retconning more that it just ruined everything.
>Brevik's backstab
Damn, that Norwegian mass murderer ruined Blizzard, too?
We're already on Metzen's standards.
Every single garbage-tier plot twist for the past 6 years was based on Metzen's own fucking notes and setup from WoD.
Blizzdrones will oink at literally any news, because they've been conditioned to believe that every single development means "Blizzard is totally back, it's all fixed." In the same vein as /misc/tards mindlessly regurgitating "two more weeks" posts without realizing they're being made fun of.
>Came back purely to exploit the nostalgia
>Beg aloud to come back to WoW
>Meanwhile put 90$ early access on the game for the first time ever
Yeah, I'm thinking Metzen became as israeliteed as the rest of them.
I don’t think that’s him, I think it’s Blizzards own Kathleen Kennedy (Holly Longdale). I equally think that she is to blame for a lot more than just stupid plot points and is probably in some way behind the wowtoken
token was added in wod. holly joined years later
Holly Longdale did literally the exact same thing with EverQuest as she has done with wow “classic”. Churning out old content and splitting the games base until barely anyone was playing with eachother anymore while she monetised the fuck out of each instance. She’s the reason a lot of the bad things are as bad as they are and she’s behind the cinematic being as bad as it is. It wasn’t for you, it was made by a middle aged woman with middle aged women in mind.
bet that's why she was giggling the entire reveal. vile evil cunt
the last fuck you gift from fink before Microsoft took the company
worse is that like bethesda, Microsoft cant fire them for almost 3 years due to the US protection laws, thanks to the Douglas and Boeing Merge where all of the board was fired and replaced by Douglas incompetent board the moment the FTC approved the deal.
Funny thing about Bill Gates and MS in particular is he intentionally sabotaged his competitors to either run them out of the business or take them over. I genuinely wonder if they’re doing the same thing but with the gaming industry.
That’s what she does. Look up her employment history, she did literally the exact same thing as “classic” with EverQuest 1:1 before draining it completely.
are they really doing a payed early access? not just to fluff items but the actual expansion and level cap?
i know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, but level cap world first is a sort of competitive thing some players care about. so how the hell could you have this payed early access?
and also for the hardcore raiders. yes they timegate ilevel anyway, but still little advantages like getting rep could potentially matter and help the mythic raid competition.
so this is just milking their already most invested customers with complete disregard for anything else. just how desperate are things at Blizz? after the OW scams, is there a depth they WON'T sink to at this point?
Yes, early access for the most expensive version. They will probably make it so you get an extra weekly reset too.
>Early Access to World of Warcraft: The War Within
is one of the bullet points of the highest purchasable tier
>is this just milking their already most invested customers
yes. their shamelessness is only surpassed by their spite towards their own customers because they hate their life
>is there a depth they WON'T sink to at this point?
the company is already rife with the lgbt mafia. these creatures are only capable of destroying so it's indeed only downhill
Do the current players like the story?
Nope.
Other than Lich King. Have there been any other WOW villains with weight or even a plan? They all crumble and are defeated by friendship.
>Other than Arthas
Sorry anon but he also was shit. Original Ner'zhul/Arthas hybrid? Well we know the idea would have probably involved using the Scourge against the legion, using countless innocence as justification to save his own ass.
But that's not mustache twirly enough, it's too complex to boot.
So WotLK Arthas was just a le heckin psychopath who wanted to turn the champions with the mettle to survive all the way to him (intentionally holding back his power level) so he could kill them, rez them and send everyone back to their home lands to repeat what he did..
Because.. Because it was tragic OK! HE'S ARTHAS WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM WAS BAD SO YOU ALL HAVE TO REPEAT IT!
>That sounds retarded.
It's ok, SL fixed it by giving him a realistic goal. You see the scourge existed solely to build a giant soul siphoning engine under Ice Crown so that in the event that Sargeras wounded Azeroth, J'lor could activate the soul grinders under IC to send Azeroth essence into the source code engine of reality to unmake it! So rest assured, Arthas served fulfilled his purpose the whole time!
this, wotlk arthas was a fucking saturday morning cartoon villain, he was a joke. the lore has been dog water since tbc.
> SL fixed it by
No, it didn't, it just tried to justify the expansion, which is a retarded reason itself because WC3 already made it clear that LK would become a threat in the future and you don't talk about how the story actually rapes Arthas even more in Shadowlands diminishing all his accomplishments and lets talk about Jailer, this bald retarded wishes that he was a fucking retarded morning saturdary cartoon villain like arthas, he is just a shitty father of all evil of Warcraft from the last 20 years to the end he just cry out that he was doing because he was not even the final boss or the biggest baddy in warcraft story...
Nigga, WoW is in complete beggar-maintenance mode since BFA, I remember that the shadowlands legendary cinematic was bugged for like 8 months with blue boxes or characters T-posing because nobody in Blizzard gave an actual shit to fix it, PTR and Betas only exist today to get datamined and get players hyped to the next patch, they do the minimum to fix problems and most of the times they ship the content with known bugs and major problems that will be fixed only in the next patch.
Anon clearly I was saying it "fixed it" as a joke because it just makes it all the more retarded.
Like, I don't think the devs even fully realized that they made the entire fucking scourge exist solely to build siphon.
There's a few arguments you could make? End of expansion villains? Then Jailer was the closest to succeeding his plans.
AU Gul'dan succeeded his plans of summoning Archimonde to Draenor, before opening the portal at the Tomb of Sargeras under orders and dying in Nighthold.
Garrosh ultimately failed in his goals to conquer Azeroth for the True Horde, but did succeed in going back in time and saving his father before ultimately dying on Draenor, where Grommash still survived for much longer than he would've died in the WoD timeline became a 1-1 of the MU timeline.
Garrosh should've killed Thrall and gone into the "bring back when we need more money" vault.
There are very few that involve an actual plan that makes sense.
I guess the old Gods in General. N'zoth technically almost succeeds the most, since Deathwing was his direct puppet.
I dont think you can really craft a well written villain in an MMO. They need to be designed to be the end expansion raid boss and everything go back to normal come the next one.
There's limitations to what you can do with MMO characters, but there's no excuse for something this bad other than appallingly poor craftsmanship as a writer. Ripping Endgame when it was the most popular movie in the world just a few years ago should be a fireable offense as a writer, at least dress it up a little
>Ripping Endgame when it was the most popular movie in the world just a few years ago should be a fireable offense as a writer, at least dress it up a little.
Nobody tell him what epic movie trilogy concluded around the time ICC came out.
you'll have to elaborate, ICC probably references pop culture in some cringy way but it isn't blatantly ripped off a movie
>There must always be... a captain.
What a bizarrely disingenuous false equivalence. In no universe is Pirates of the fucking Caribbean as popular in the collective consciousness as Endgame, the highest gross film of all time from 2019 to 2021
Anon it's not about the size of the capeshit climax, Pirates was still fuck huge that year and the LK becoming a fucking "role" for some reason was directly ripped off from it.
The LK being a role is a tiny part of the finale, the entire ending cinematic of Dragonflight is being ripped from Endgame. You're being disingenuous and you know it, which is very common for retail addicts desperate not to admit they're playing a straight up bad game.
>This has become an anon thinks I'm defending the expansion episode
Uhh no actually I'm shitting on Metzen for doing the same shit Danuser is doing?
J'lor becoming Thanos was way more obvious yes. But the drama of the ICC closing sequence was fucking shamelessly ripped from Pirates and everyone knew it because they already had Vykrul designed around the cursed Dutchman pirates in game.
I don't know why you think WotLK was the perfect ending for Arthas considering they gutted Ner'zhul and the LK's plan really doesn't make any sense unless you accept that Arthas is just insane, which I guess if fair considering that Lucas did to Anakin in the end.
wait, you're talking about pirates? i thought it was that icecrown citadel was a dead ringer for everything mordor from LOTR
>Was a Dead Ringer for Mordor
It is, but that was tasteful considering the Lich King is inspired by the Witch King, which draws parallels to the original WC II Death Knights being Naz'gul inspired.
No, the LK role was originally a magic weapon created by Nathrazim, that Kil'jaden used Ner'zhul as a pilot as his final act of servitude.
It wasn't a requirement to prevent the scourge from somehow becoming stronger than they are with a hive mind leadership. They did this because in Pirates, Davey Jones is placed in a supernatural undeath state by offering his heart to Calypso to serve as a ferryman for souls lost at sea. This role is essential, if the captain dies someone among the living must be forced into the role as a trade off.
Jack Sparrow desires this role to become immortal, but ends up giving it to Will Turner so that he can cheat Death.
To drum up the drama, blizzard decided the LK should be like the Dutchman Captain, that someone HAS to become the LK in return, so Bolvar can show up and fulfill the role all dramatically and spare Tirion the role.
Sure, since Ner'zhul got Arthas to play surrogate body(originally) you could argue the idea of the LK being passed on from person to person was already in the works. But the lore did not establish itself like that, someone should have smashed the crown the moment it was cut from Arthas's head. If you wanted to make the role then maybe have some homosexual steal the armor and become the next LK later? There were possibilities less retarded than what they went with.
They essentially argue that the scourge is more dangerous without a LK controlling it than with one, which makes zero fucking sense.
Fair enough, I'm so used to increasingly desperate retail players trying to do anything to rationalize that Danuser's story is actually good, whether it's through shitting on old expansions through false equivalence or other ways. Blizzcon has stirred up the hornets nest of Blizzard apologists so I'm seeing things through that light.
That is not true lol nobody who plays wow defends it, you are forgetting it is the only playable game of its genre
There's a handful of loud retail defenders on this board, but there's an overwhelming amount of them contained on /vg/ and plebbit/r/wow, to the point where any criticism gets howled down
Not really no, literally nobody defends blizzard, they just command the mmo market also hots is arguably the best moba
I can tell you now, you're straight up wrong and just haven't hung around these places long enough. Retail defense is real and very widespread. There's been a bunch of threads about the War Within 3 day early access with loud and proud retail addicts say 'are you poor or something? get a job' about the early access fee
Everyone who plays wow shits on blizzard endlessly, this has been the case for most of blizzards life, if there are shills they literally don’t matter
I think you might be surprised just how many retail shills exist nowadays. They have congregated in https://reddit.com/r/wow. They have become more hostile to any kind of criticism as the quality of the game continues to decrease and they know it, but don't want to acknowledge it, so have created a bubble of fake toxic positivity. Even the official forums are pretty critical nowadays.
If your definition of a retail shill is a retail player then yeah but they all hate blizzard too. What you people don't get is wow is a monopoly, of course it will be shit with no competition.
Those aren't people those are Blizzard employees.
I love how people mention retail as if anyone that engages with wow, be it via classic or other blizzard games, isn't enabling that shit and funding their paychecks.
It's like pushing a bunch of rancid shit to the side of your plate but continuing to eat up the rest of the slop. Some next level cope to think you aren't as mazed as the rest of them.
Why would you immediately assume I play classic and am looking down on retail players? I don't have an active sub
because like i said, there's no point in making a distinction between retail and all the other subsets of the wow community. It's all the same shit.
retail is particularly egregiously poor quality right now, that's the entire point of the thread
>Dragonflight is ripping off Endgame
Lol wtf? I thought this was talking about Shadowlands and the magic stones.
Both games are heavily influenced by Avengers because the lead writer is the same moron, who is obsessed with capeshit
If anyone doubts this, that cinematic in OP is a lazy attempt to nostalgia 'member berry you to the Avenger Endgame assemble scene and have you clap like a retarded seal.
All these people that don't see the blatant Sauron stuff, complete with the Eye you fight.
>the eye you fight
What?
He's talking about the ice eyeballs often accompanying saronite ziggurats.
Yes, there were Ice eyeballs called eyes of the Lich King that reference to Sauron's eye, sine Arthas is an amalgamation of the Witch King and Sauron.
Post WC3 Arthas is definitely a replica of LOTR but to say a reskin of Eye of Kilrogg thats been around since WC2 as an argument and that you
>fight the eye
is not really a good point to be making
That anon didn't get the argument being made.
Icecrown citedal and Ice crown in general being ICE Mordor complete with similar looking walls and tower, as well as giant ice eyeballs Arthas uses to see everything?
That's tasteful, every rpg under the sun has referenced tolkien stuff
Ripping off the ending of At World's End because you thought the drama was cool when it doesn't make sense in the lore? That's tasteless and retarded.
honestly I was just confused about the "eye" he was talking about which I don't even believe you ever "fight" which makes me think hes never actually played the game
I remember controlling one in some quests, maybe the DK intro quests.
I think that image here
with the shit Eye of Cthun super imposed on it was a case where you fight one.
Because the eyes are an object and not an enemy, I think the Cthun was added to register the thing as a mob (Why they didn't make it invisible is beyond me).
Yes it was from the starting DK quests, basically an eye of kilrogg reskin observing the scarlet crusade thats what it was thank god my autism is now cleared up
Wasn't really an eye of Kilrogg reskin.
I mean it used the same noises I think but the object was one of those "always facing" psuedo 3d objects.
They used the same effect for the metal titan spheres found in WoLK titan ruins and the Disc priests crit bubble that looked 5x better than the classic bubble.
WotlK titan shit was peak titan shit and it just got worse every game.
The Oculus is a giant eye in Icecrown. You fight it during questing.
Youre talking about a C'Thun reskin for your argument and not even EoK? Do you even fight this eye I dont remember I havent played Wrath since it actually came out 08
What are you talking about? Star Wars? 90% of Arthas storyline was made before Star Wars prequels, the ending of ICC at least had original dialogue and a great directing overall, the entire raid is the conclusion of a lot of Warcraft 3 and BC/WOTLK storylines.
nta but if you think about it, wc3 rips off of revenge of the sith as well lol
arthas = anakin
Anon that movie wasn't even out yet. WC3 was 2002, RotS was 2005, AotC was 2002 but only a couple of months ahead of WC3 so it couldn't have influenced it that hard if at all as story was likely established already.
>I dont think you can really craft a well written villain in an MMO
Play Shadowbringers.
Thunder King.
Thunder King, Illidan, Arthas, Ragnaros, Onyxia, Gul’dan, Garrosh, N’zoth
Obviously all are defeated by a road group but that’s the nature of the game
Blizzard fans really are the battered spouses of the gaming world.
Singing at the karaoke with a black eye and a busted lip: STAND BY YER MAAAAAAN!
Only a fag who would think nu-blizzard would change for the better. Microsoft needs to purge the company and rob the IPs. Use AI to do the writing it will be infinitely better.
HOLY SHIT TGEY FORGOT TO RENDER IN HIS MODEL FOR LIKE 4 SECONDS LOLOLOLOL
I agree but over the topic le epic over the top over climatic fantasy has been a thing since forever. What I can't stand is that anytime anyone talks in this game or cinematic they talk............like............this and it infuriates the fuck out of me. Do the writers and actors not know how to talk normally or anything besides that overly drawn out slow talk to make shit seem epic? Take this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq4Y7ztznKc Sure the dragon talks kinda slowly but it's paced a million times better than any of the crap voice lines they've done recently. Seriously what the fuck happened?
>Seriously what the fuck happened?
trans i mean that unironically
dragoncunt is all about "muh feelings"
It was prevalent before dragon dildo isles. I noticed it got really bad when they released battle for azeroth and shadowlands was unbearable because of it.
They will RESET WOW after those shitty 3 expansions 90 bucks each B T W
So wow reset in like 5-7 years
Yeah just like how wow will go F2P soon right?
That will never ever happen if anything MAYBE wow on gamepass
Retarded?
>epic edition
Yes, you're retarded.
You are beyond retarded
The game releases normally for 90 bucks
Everyone else pays less to play 3 days later
Totally need to play it 3 days early for 40 extra dollars. Fucking idiot.
Yes you do because it's the official release date
For 90 bucks
KYS
lmaoing at these mental gymnastics
you're worse than wowtroons
lynch thyself posthaste
>buzzwords
Have fun paying more money
Now kys livestream it, fucking idiot
>NOOOOOOOO I NEED TO PLAY IT 3 DAYS EARLY BECAUSE I JUST DO OKAY???
yes you do need to play 3 days earlier you do want to be ahead of the curve right? early access is the actual release date of the expansion having to pay a lot more money for that is a shit practice.
How do you believe players with 3 extra days will have a headstart when the mythic dungeons and mythic raids aren't unlocked until around the second or third week of the expansion? Explain.
3 days is more than plenty to lvl to max lvl and start endgame shit, or find glitches, hyper spawns whatever. its a literal 3 day headstart anon. dont fool yourself
So? Anyone can get fully heroic geared within the first week of an expansion launching ready for the mythics in the second or third week.
Not him, but it depends on whether the 3 days are before or after a weekly reset.
Still, it's such a non-issue, but a hot topic for all the outrage youtubers and whiny addicts.
Not that guy, but 3 extra days of getting ahead on farming mats + leveling professions + dominating the AH can be a gigantic difference. It can be the difference between you making millions of gold or only a couple hundred thousand.
>farming mats
Immaterial. Can always be bought.
>leveling professions
Same thing. Can get someone to craft them for you. There are usually weekly limits attached to the best stuff and you barely have to lift a finger to get them e.g. shadowflame fragments
I made 3 million gold in 24 hours because human rep bonus let me catch fish others could not. The fish were used for darkmoon trinket bullshit.
When bfa released they forgot to remove the fish oil that was needed for almost all cooking recipes from certain vendors. I bought multiple guild banks worth of that shit and made 10s of million of gold maxing out my blizz and token balance.
Bfa released on the 14th of august and they hotfixed this on the 16th. After some quick calculations I came to the conclusion that that this timeframe is less than 3 days.
>90 bucks each
why are you lying?
you want to play 3 days early don't you?
No? Who cares?
They should just retcon WOW back to after WOTLK.
jesus christ her head is a literal triangle
>Villain who came closest to succeeding in his plan is the one everyone hates.
Because his plan is also really poorly wrapped around the entire WoW plot, most of which depends on VERY specific circumstances
>Scourge exists to build an engine to suck blood from Azeroth into the afterlife.
>Lich King also designed to be a portal to the shadowlands by ripping the helm in two, which required a third party because reasons (It's inconsistent as fuck whether or not the LK was directly serving him, even though KZ was directly serving him).
>In order to suck the planet, he needs Sarg to hurt to stab it
>He also needs the soul of Argus to knock out the Arbiter so souls go to the Maw so he has the power to steal the sigils from the other afterlife gods, just to gain access to the device that would utilize Azeroth's blood, of which the soul grinders were specifically made.
>This means he needs the impossible odds of mortals or fucking somebody to kill Argus the Unmaker.
It really just doesn't make sense at all.
Replace Jailer with Sargeras, and Mawsworn with Legion and instead it would click a little better while making Shadowlands about Sargeras bruteforcing his way into the afterlife via Argus and trying to hijack the means to rewrite reality just as he always wanted.
okay brainlet, sorry you're too weak minded to see the jailer's master plan all along. the fact you're even breathing to write post in this thread is all part of the jailer's vision and only the end of the worldsoul saga will reveal his TRUE intentions
exists to build an engine to suck blood from Azeroth into the afterlife.
This is fucking cool. The rest are lame. If they just hadn't framed the Jailor as a 5d chess master, it could've worked. Say he's desperate to get out, and has smuggled countless artifacts out of the Maw to different worlds in an attempt to esscape. The Helm of Domination should've remained a Legion artifact, but the Jailor's agents could've put an extra rune on it or something, influencing the Lich King slightly into building the Forge of Souls. Then the soul of Argus could've been a massive opportunity for the Jailor, who just said fuck it, I'll just try to break out now. Eventually, his downfall should've been caused by his schemes collapsing, due to outside factors he could not control, instead of us just hitting him really hard. I mean, we were definitely going to fight him in the end, and there was really no reason for 40 adventurers to NOT just storm Torghast and kill him before he could power up.
If it's true that he wrote the war within trailer, nothing will change. It has all the same problems of previous writing in wow, except it has thrall now.
They really should have lowered the stakes for awhile after Legion. Should've even had a timeskip or something. I think they did try to do both of those but they failed horribly (fourth war is a meme and ends in oldgodsvoidlords who are worse than the legion, timeskip was related to the terrible afterlife expansion). Also the world is just too complex and bloated as is the gameplay
>t. end of vanilla babby that knew it was over towards the end of WoTLK but realizes that it has never been more over than now
BFA was a little too late of a return to the cata plot. I'm not sure if it should have happened before or after legion considering blizzard has always bounced between Old Gods or Demons being the ultimate big bad, but it should have happened a lot sooner when people cared.
Metzen might have a lot of issues with storytelling but he at least made stuff that was sort of cool/fun in the moment.
Bringing him back is a pure upgrade over Danuzer and the other jailer creating cucks even if it's not perfect.
What the actual fuck, its really the Avengers finale.
>flies away as a placeholder cube
Its so profound.
>watch the cinematic
Fuck off.
They didn't bring Metzen back for dragonflight you fucking moron, they brought him back for the next three expacs.
Learn to read.
Such a fucking clown...
WHERE ARE DA EELS
They are still fucking piece of shit. I will not buy your new expansion if their key feature is just "allied race" that looks exactly like normal race that was released years ago. Is this a fucking joke? They are so out of touch with their community. I feel like there is one full of shit developer in high position that keeps getting away with his diaper gnomes and furries.
Whoever is in charge of Allied Races needs a monumental slap. Drac'thyr deviantart fetish bait, then reskinned Dwarves where the main feature is women have beards, are you fucking serious?
Great, now they're ripping off Spaceballs
So did Dragonflight have anything worthwhile to add to the world or was it just straight up a filler expansion?
It was the Mass Effect 2 of expansions, no effect on the main plot whatsoever, other than introducing Iridikron who may have a role to play in the future plot or may just be quietly killed offscreen
it got rid of the faction war. which is actual progress that fits the current story. nozdormu keeps getting hints at his future. it gave some useless dragon and titan lore. so no, not really.
the all murloc timeline version of dragon soul was pretty funny though
It was a pleasant filler expansion that made a lot of creditable improvements to game systems and design philosophy. I would rate it comfortably higher than the two previous expansions.
>design philosophy
Put a chick in it, make her gay and lame?
Nah, less horrendous mandatory treadmill shit is the main thing. You can do the stuff you actually enjoy doing and ignore the rest and the game doesn't punish you for it.
Can women characters only be cool if they’re secondary or something? I start cringing to death whenever I hear any female wow character speak in any of these cinematics now. Thinking it might be a Danuser problem but I dunno. I remember liking Tyrande, Sylvanas, etc. back in the day but now it’s all cringe
You're just suffering from brainrot because of Ganker, you're cringing because the dialogue is godawful and people are having 5 minute conversations before executing someone. Made even worse because they would have succeeded in killing that pseudo god if they just shut the fuck up and swung the sword before 50 people snuck up on him.
I liked Venessa Van Cleef & Onyxia (pre-cata)
Do you really not realize how bad the game has been hampered by the autistic "muh faction war"? this stuff should have gone away in tbc after the horde and alliance worked together in vanilla.
There is no benefit from it, all it did was gimp the game by splitting the playerbase and forcing the writers into stupid writing just to keep the factions alive when the alliance should have carpet bombed the horde cities ages ago.
The whole basis of the RTS games was faction war, it's kind of crucial to the premise of the game. PVP used to be much more central to the game, but over time its become a PVE game first with weird small subculture that still plays PVP. It's useful for the developers to get rid of it because cross-faction means a declining player base isn't as obvious in group finder
The game was never pvp focused and pvp is somewhere the game went wrong, pvp should be done entirely in pve gear
>The whole basis of the RTS games was faction war
That's literally the opposite of the entire point of WCIII's story.
The early access is going to backfire hard because if someone can justify putting it off 3 days they can justify not playing it at all.
the 3 extra days i'd say are only worth it under 2 conditions:
1: you are a world first racer and need to prepare several characters
2: you for some reason can play from tuesday to friday but can't that weekend due to work or something
It's going to be scheduled for a long-weekend like Labor Day with early access starting Saturday and the game launching for unwashed plebs on the next Tuesday. The FOMO will be unbearable for addicts, people will buy early access en masse during that three day period.
It's wild how Metzen comes on stage talking about 'uniting the community' and then they pull shit like this. The company are absolute scumbags and Metzen is just a mercenary to allow them to fuck the average player even harder
Probably yeah, whenever they ban me I just unsub for a few months because the season is over for me anyway
I got a 10 day ban over Christmas. Not going back until it is refunded.
>backfire
Nah, remember this is a part 1 of 3 and they're testing how far can they go.
This being WoW with its audience of the terminally addicted, they will get away with it and go beyond in the next paid content patch... I mean next expansions.
There's so many people rationalizing it as 'oh are you poor or something?' They already won, they can push this much further and the addicts will still pay it
>Take 3 minutes and watch the latest cinematic for the new patch
What a generic fucking enemy. This would've been a low level boss in like RFC in Vanilla.
He turned into a box of cubes
Glad blizzshit is inclusive esg company
I need to see how Metzen would try to sell something like mechagnomes to the audience, how he would introduce them as something EPIC.
>Metzen enters the stage wearing adult diapers
They wanted to know why the titty milk in the fridge tastes like sperm now.
Hey anon, I just got done with these new animations
Holy fuck that run is goofy. Straight outta Disney/Pixar movies.
thank god for glyph of stars
Didn't work at start of Dragonflight btw. Don't know if it does now.
Damn, really?
It works now. Thank God.
how did they make running animation worse then 2003 one?
why is everything that blizzard makes now so bouncy? do you know what i mean? everything is bouncy and bubbly and fluffy its really fucking weird to me
>why is everything that blizzard makes now so bouncy?
To fit its incredibly cartoony aesthetics. I fucking hate how WoW looks. I just can't take it seriously at all and it's a reflection of its fruity writing as well
now do the club penguin dance
As a moonkin chad, what the FUCK is that running animation?
Explain to me how WoWfags can bitch and moan about XIV being weebshit when the artstyle and animations in WoW are basically a disney movie now. Holy shit its painful to see the game turn into something unrecognizable.
I really hope you haven't played WCIII anon because if you have you might be terminally media illiterate.
Furion basically turns to the camera and says the faction war is retarded and the only way to save the world is to work together in the last mission.
Yeah, at least was the first time they forced the "UNITED WE STAY STRONG" bullshit, now its the plot point of a major expansion every 5 years.
This. Should the Horde and Alliance be super best friends? No, an uneasy cold war with some skirmishes and rivalry, occasionally teaming up to deal with actual threats? That's perfect.
Full blown war? That's what ruined WoW to begin with. The writing was bound to step on toes and Cataclysm proved players would not be satisfied with any outcome. BFA pulled the same shit again.
I think mop had a pretty decent solution
>panda dude straight up admits that he horde and alliance constant clashing is what keeps them strong enough to slap the shit out of the big threats when they pop up
>Garrosh suddenly racist to justify Horde players turning on him
>Varian and Alliance players cucked out of a satiafying solution again because blue team can't actually fight back, only repeatedly stand back up after being kicked in the nuts
>Sylvanas will evetually do it all over again making everyone involved just look even more retarded
>garrosh suddenly racist
>suddenly
lol
lmao
This is the game big streamers and all you fags are playing? What the fuck even is this shit?
They're playing classic hardcore mode, nobody plays retail other than desperate addicts
>Blizzard brought back the cum out of the window guy
I thought they were wanting to clean up their image?
I want to marry her.
How the fuck are Centaurs in the dragon island? Did another deerman fuck another rock elemental?
Are centaurs supposed to be a post sundering only race?
centaurs were apparently created by a keeper of the grove (deer centaur) fucking an earth elemental
so yes
don't ask inconvenient questions chud
centaur lore got retconned and there are ones that existed before the kalimdor ones and theyre noble savages and gay and blah blah blah youve seen and heard this all before
This cannot be that ba-
>look it up
>"they just existed, their origin has not been explained lol"
bruh, but I guess something should be left unexplained or else you get Sneedoland's "afterlife? they are all managed by literal robots"
they just don't even bother to explain shit anymore, the new expansion has Arathi humans living underground in the middle of the ocean near Pandaria (wtf) and a Nerubian kingdom in the same place, on the opposite side of Northrend and close to both Silithus & the mantids in pandaland. so why the fuck are there Nerubians there and not some other bugs?
they just don't give a fuck, they make assets that they want to use and don't bother at all trying to fit it into the lore. blizzard has just gotten so used to retconning shit since vanilla they don't even try anymore, they can just make shit up as they go
>In the middle of the ocean
Not defending it but isn't the expansion taking place in a NOT Underdark deep under ground like a hollow earth sort of shit?
Nerubians probably dug their way there, they're the only bug race that really spread out underground.
The Arathor humans will probably have some dumb Tyr explanation.
i always remember those old rp servers where people would constantly cope about arathor being rebuilt
wonder how they reacted to this stupid ass "reveal"
Gays don't survive 10s of years.
dont be a bigot maybe they can get mpreg
That only works when they drink beer.
rate my drip
worked hard on it
back to /vg/ retard
8/10, would give 10 if it was showing her tummy.
Would plap and create 5 kids with
You look like a Disney villain that wants to steal the innocence from some ethnic Princess.
thighs
gonna need an item list sis
I like it. Thighs ftw.
nice glam
lmao. this is like a children's cartoon writing. glad I stopped playing this shit.
>all the characters waited with their teleport (or whatever the fuck happened) for the moment when the bad guy says "you're alone" and she says "no I'm not alone"
>I'm sure nobody in the audience expected such turn of events and everyone thought it looked super cool when it happened
Is this recorded on a machine with HDD that ran for 10 years without defragmentation?
Why do the models take a notable time to show and why does the guy turn into literal error cube?
Is it gonna take them another 10 years to come up with the "tech" to make the engine preload models for the cutscenes?
How do wowgoyim rationalize their money going towards this embarrassing shit each month?
They fucked up referencing a nonexistent low detail version of Fyrakk's model for the long-distance shot and forget to test it properly before release, it's not a mechanical HDD loading issue. This is the rock bottom standard of worksmanship that goes into the game nowadays
Wait this shit isn't from the ptr?
Reminder that BFA was missing a vital section of its plot for months after launch, the mythraxx invasion of zuldazar bugged out and ported you to a random riverside when trying to start the scenario, and trying to replay the cutscene to at least get closer next popped up a PTR text announcement saying "awesome in-game event"
im an alliance player so i didnt get it either way
>He played through alliance BFA plotline without even context
I'm sorry you had to go through that anon. If it's any consolation the two plots don't even slightly align.
Honestly would have been better to have some of the Jaina Disney Princess cutscenes go missing.
if it made you feel like you were experiencing an "awesome in-game event" then the PTR text was successful
There's a single quest that I remember to this day and its surprisinly from Shadowlands, its a Kyrian quest IIRC where you relive the last moments of a new soul that arrived on Shadowlands, its actually great setup for someone that died during a scourge attack, the ambience of the quest is great but shame that is just a 5 minutes experience.
It's probably the only quest that I remember fondly from WoW, I remember some fun World quests from Legion that were all bugged the moment that we were able to fly, some dailies on the trial of crusader were cool but since you had to farm them 50x times its not something that I would want to go back to do it again.
They brought Metzen back as a PR stunt. And it worked.
DF cinematic was a disappointment, but the war within shit is just something else. Couldn't even imagine they would be faking it so hard.
Paying more for less content is also a genius move.
How complete are the private servers you set up for yourself?
What the fuck is level 255 gameplaywise? It sounds absolutely retarded and I assume it is to hide none of the content being scripted; so for pvp fags.
I tried Solocraft where you can spawn party member bots. Sounds nice but they are pretty retarded and aren't going to be ccing.
My ideal would be all content but skills are what they were during that content; or even better you can pick which expansion's skillset to use.
>Why did Blizzard bring Chris Metzen back?
He's their hypeman to make sure Blizzdrones eat up whatever Blizzard shits on their plate.
>Dragon gets hit
>Uses her power to turn into an elf
Why? Isn't the dragon form her natural form? Shouldn't she default to that when injured?
I mean the player character is right there, she would have crushed you.
PC is nowhere near her when she lands, which is a separate issue. Also she changes after landing so you'd get fucked anyway
1. They can't be assed rigging up the dragon models for VA in cutscenes
2. Blocking with giant dragon models and the human models is too much effort
3. They forgot that the avatar forms are dragons assuming a humanoid form and not a humanoid assuming a dragon form
Pick your poision, any or all of those might be true.
>Animations and spell effects from the good guys look janky as fuck
>Bad guy turns into cube
Oh well, it's just PTR, ri-
>This is from the live game
lmao
Obviously for dramatic scene. If both them were in their natural dragon forms appearence of a buhcn of humanoid heroes wouldn't make great impact. Imagine Thrall throwing his little axe at giant firebreathing lizard.
I have an urge to goon every time I see her on the screen
how many expansions in a row have they ended early now, 3 or 4?
It doesn't really matter because streamer will keep the game alive forever. They made WoW their actual lives, they can only stream WoW so they can survive day to day, they put their lives on the line for this game.
So it doesn't matter if WoW sucks or not because people will always always play it.
I don't think Metzen was hugely involved with DF if at all. I don't think we'll see any of his new work before War Within.
I don't think Metzen would work on something later on either. He's just there to do a rough draft for the story and give voice to Thrall.
Blizzards writing was always corny and shitty in WoW so why are people acting like this is a new thing?
Bars have been set lower.
Early expansions were much simpler, no one cares that much about story and characters if all that you have is bunch of short speeches in the chat box. When you make a dumbass cutscene or cinematic you put all bad things on display.
They started doing cringe cutscenes in WotLK
Now they make a lot of them and they still suck.
>They started doing cringe cutscenes in WotLK
Wrathgate was good though
Holy shit. I've never played WoW, didn't know their standards were so low.
the dragon aspects were always the most cringe part of wow so an expansion based around them being gay as fuck isnt surprising
Fuck Metzen. He's responsible for taking cheesecake away.
Heroes of the Storm team was the last uncucked refuge and they got shut down
how "incel" is WoW on a scale of 1-10?
in its own category called MMO
Metzen is back exclusively as nostalgia bait, there's no other reason. WoW is bleeding players and failing to lure in new ones, and the ones still playing are either in deep denial or aware that the game is shit, but are too heavily invested to stop.
>shows up in Legion
>"doors."
>fucks off forever
They brought metzen back like they brought illidan back.
I'm going to disregard literally everything already posted and remind you all that 90% of nu-Blizzard are perfectly content with destroying the company for their own selfish gain while also stockpiling as much of its resources for themselves, as seen in the "strike" last year and the many individuals doing what they can to push paying customers away from buying products if they dont meet the minimum social media score.
So yeah, that's why they brought him back. Chris has a face and name you can attach to WoW, and people prefer that compared to the swirling ever-shifting mass of twitmongers currently fucking up the games.
classic
>nelfs in alliance for no reason
>tauren and undead allied
>nelfs lost all identity
>nelf male warriors
>nelf female druids
>1k yo nelfs sbservient to humans in their alliance
tbc
>those ugly fucks dranei? Actuaslly they are blue succubi! And they have red twins. Cos blue = good, red = bad. Starwars? Twileks? Never head of them.
>vashj corrupted mad with power
>kael corrupted mad with power
>tk was meerely a setbaxk XD LOL
>illidan is... LE CORRUPTED MAD WITH POWER!
>Sunwell is... LE HUMAN GIRL
wrath
>scourge now uses mordor aestethics from lotr because... uhhhhhh... their aestethics from wc3 was actually stolen from nerubians... but also in sl they use nerubains aestethics... because... STOP ASKING QUESTIONS CHUD
>ending is pirates of carribean
Wow was always shit
Metzen was always shit
Just eat your wow shit and shut the fuck up pigs
>ending is pirates of carribean
who the fuck is forcing this meme
it was a stupid plot point but i've never seen the pirates connection until this thread
newfag retard tranny
>nelfs in alliance for no reason
makes more sense than UD joining the Horde, but whatever.
>those ugly fucks dranei? Actuaslly they are blue succubi! And they have red twins. Cos blue = good, red = bad. Starwars? Twileks? Never head of them.
Female spacegoats are the single redeeming thing Blizzard did. No one cares for fucking broken, no one would play broken.
>makes more sense than UD joining the Horde, but whatever.
It makes equal amounts of sense, which is zero. They should've each been an NPC faction.
Would vanilla wow been better if undeads and elves would've been rogue isolated races not belonging to the horde or alliance and enemies of everyone else, only partyign with other elves and undeads?
No because you could play undead or nelf in wc3
It would have been better indeed
Or they might have explained changes and changed nelves to being only formally in alliance and acting condenscending againt humans
Instead they are human pets
Undeads and Taurens should have had conflicte everywhere, further enforcing uneasy alliance which was forced upon them
Instead all of it therer without any explanation
>we have legit gone full on MCU AVENGERS ASSEMBLE.
that's literally WoW since TBC
My dick's shadow.
>implying anyone could even get hard to her
>MCU AVENGERS ASSEMBLE
all the writers are middle aged women anon, this is their a game
wait, didn't wow's story ended when champion defeated the j'lor? the mastermind behind the events of warcraft 1,2,3 and world of warcraft?
He was misunderstood, he did all that bad things because of greater threat. Not even kidding, that's something that they implied in the final of Shadowlands.
no, that was warcraft 3's story
wow story will never end, just look at
i'm sure they're going to come up with more time travel and multiverses like capeshit
Wasn't Yogg-Saron behind some of the WarCraft and WoW events? Man I hate WoW lore so fucking much.
We're so fucking back.
Not clicking that shit but just wanted to mention that this character's eyebrows make her look like a r63 of the Monarch.
Why don't they make wow 2?
I'd say "that would take effort since they might need to start from scratch" but after seeing games like Spider-man 2 and Zelda they can pretty much reuse everything from current wow, change it a bit visually or "improve" the graphics like ffziv will try to do and call it wow2
Blizzard already did Overwatch 2. They scammed their players so hard that they wouldn't work on story mode and hero talents at all. They weren't able to pull something like L2D ripoff, how fucking useless their developers?
cut those devs some slack, most of them are busy transitioning and keeping up with their medical bills and meds
>and meds
If they'd take their meds they wouldn't be this retarded
>This is legit fucking awful, awful writing.
>Remember when the Alliance and Horde came together only at the end of the world to fight back the legion in WC3? Man those were good times.
>Amirdrassil
How many world trees are there? Five?
However many the hack writers require at the time.
>Nordrassil
>Teldrassil
>The one in Northend
>Amirdrassil
4 i think, 2 of which that gotten assaulted by fire themed villains, ironically the one that got actually burned wasn't one of those.
Don't care.
Going to play it.
My friends will too.
So will millions of others.
And there's nothing you can do about it!
Cope, seethe and dilate XIVtroon.
>XIVtroon
Show me on the doll where XiV hurt you?
It hurt my dick 🙁 bitch needs to learn how to suck without biting
I like that part when he turns into a placeholder cube.
Metzen didnt get to write anything for DF, he joined too late
But I preordered The War Within
Kino is back on the menu
he's 50 years old and sober
>calls others "troons" when posting tranime picture
Delusion poetrykino
WoW was never good, just like you were never white.
You are trying too hard to fit in
Okay xiv cultist.
he's just a token nagger for this next bait and switch. Probably supposed to lure back asmonglold viewers, but he's under strict tranny supervision
How many years has it been between expansions? Shouldn't the main player character from original WoW be retired by Cata?
why would they retire?
Well at least from the Human perspective:
>Campaigns to expand Alliance control in the Eastern Kingdoms
>Skirmish between multiple factions
>The outlands campaign that saw the death of Illidan and assisting the Shattered Sun in stopping the legion near enemy territory; dealing with bloody combat, dark magic and ogres from Blades Edge
>Travelling into Northrend and dealing with the freezing cold, the random ambushes of undead, the unnatural emnities of the old ones, the Lich Kings bullshit
I think at some point our people are like "Nah I'm good I'll just go exploring or farm and live a quiet life. Unless you're character is a general badass.
Didn't the player character experience Sylvanas's human Aryan bf grow from wee babby to ptsd guy?
Well that's what I'm wondering. I'm thinking there might be two or three generations after the WotLK hero. Maybe just in time to see SW get destroyed and help rebuild but not take part in the Alliance's expansion into Kalimdor
>virgin NPC gets ptsd after shadowlands
>chad player does dailies
Nothing gets as funny as Orc DK Player minmaxxing fucking over dragons:
>Kill just about any damn lizard with wings thats attackable.
>Multiple of which Aspects.
>Massacre offshoots like Stormdrakes to raise into undead.
>Warcrime the Ruby Dragonshrine just for a achievement.
>Alexstrasza still has to come crawling for help.
>Via orc heritage quest part of the Dragonmaw Clan that previously enslaved them.
>Canonically would have helped keep her enslaved then if not for the outrage about that quest.
Fuck them dragons.
>You will never play an orc who canonicaly impregnated Alexstrasza
why keep playing?
Classic is year 25 and Dragonflight is currently at 40. So 15 years have passed. If you started adventuring in northshire age 20 during vanilla, you would be 35 in the current day.
Oh. I figure Outlands, Cataclysm and WoD would've been longer than 2 years given the logistics and the fuckery of the respective continents. Outlands for being a battleground of demons, orcs and space magic. Cata because both Horde and Alliance are expanding and rebuilding on each other's territory and WoD because they have to do Outlands again
>start of dragonflight
DOOD WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT CHUD DRACTHYR NOT THAT BAD THE ZONES LOOK GREAT WHAT DO YOU MEAN WARCRAFT THEN AND NOW ITS THE SAME BRO
>now
DOOD WOW IS SO LOW T NOW WHERES THE COOL SHIT WHAT IS THIS FEMBOY DRACTHYR FURRY SHIT THE ZONES LOOK TOO SAFE
What causes this? Do they get paid off at the start?
>Do they get paid off at the start?
Well, duh!
He's literally owned by some kind of shill company. He'll say whatever they want him to.
These guys all make their living off of the game. It's in their interest that the game continues to do well. Of course they hype up every single new expansion at the start. The only time they will ever say anything bad about an expansion is at the end when everyone has already bought it. Why do players even listen to these people?
>Why do players even listen to these people?
People that grew up in the influencer age. They cannot form a single independent thought without some drooling basedface retard reading it to them.
i like asmon but id say like 95% of his retail WoW takes boil down to "im not the best and i dont have everything so its bad...." dude legit wants WoW to be his power fantasy and once you realize that it makes everything he's saying add up. his distaste for wow literally started once he realized other players had more than him and were better than him. its like that kid you meet who swears they're the best smash player ever then you play them and they have the reflexes of a toddler. except in this case the toddler has a following who can actually influence the game: "ya its just bad now haha... i could still be the best if i wanted too!"
uh Asmongold was never "the best" but yes, he could still do mythic raiding and high keys. Literally any non-disabled adult could if they wanted to.
but you cant
He’s not an independent actor like most YouTube personalities. Asmon in particular works for a firm called “Night Media”.
The greatest trick israelitetube pulled was to imply that all of the largest creators did it by hook and crook on their own when it couldn’t be further from the truth. You’ll see him struggle sometimes like when talking about ESG or going to hard on Blizz, his agent watches all his shows or has someone else to watch them all the time
yep. wish more people would realize that
Can’t get to the top without selling your soul. Whether it’s to be a pop superstar or the biggest mr minecraft man on the block
true. feel kinda bad for them but then again, nobody forced them
Matthew 16
>For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Willing to bet his mothers death wasn’t an accident?
They all sold their soul to Mr Beast
Mr Beast is owned too. Pretty sure he’s NightMedia as well, same as Asmon. So when Chris tells you he was literally paid to troon out he does mean that and the intention is to get to your kids
Y’all have absolutely no idea how evil YouTube and google as an extension of that really are and what their plans for you entail. The whole damn website is nothing but a facade
>Mr Beast is owned too. Pretty sure he’s NightMedia as well, same as Asmon. So when Chris tells you he was literally paid to troon out he does mean that and the intention is to get to your kids
Was that the reason why Asmon and Mizkif did a whole stream where they crossdressed? Were they forced to do it, or was it just self-humiliation for content?
That’s a classic Hollywood humiliation ritual. I know someone here will cry about this, but look into the black celeb sphere and they’re a lot more open about how this stuff works; Kevin Hart, Katy Williams, P Diddy.
(Emiru is an escort btw)
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>but look into the black celeb sphere and they’re a lot more open about how this stuff works; Kevin Hart, Katy Williams, P Diddy.
Yeah it's known as buck breaking
The funniest part of this is that it’s literally true. They didn’t get Kevin Hart in that dress for funnies just like they haven’t for countless others.
>He’s not an independent actor like most YouTube personalities. Asmon in particular works for a firm called “Night Media”.
>The greatest trick israelitetube pulled was to imply that all of the largest creators did it by hook and crook on their own when it couldn’t be further from the truth. You’ll see him struggle sometimes like when talking about ESG or going to hard on Blizz, his agent watches all his shows or has someone else to watch them all the time
Does anyone remember when Disney had that whole youtuber org way back around the time of Gamergate, which had the likes of TotalBiscuit, Pewdiepie, Boogie, Jesse Cov, Mariplier, and even JONTRON as members? I can't remember what they were called and the entire org was memory holed at some point but it was a thing, well before Night Media, well before Mr. Beast was even a thing. It was the reason Markiplier one time even showed up on a Disney Channel show. Like Disney was pouring lots of money to rise up an era of influencers and most of the big names back in that period were apart of it.
I just cant for the life of me remember what they were called.
You're thinking of Maker Studios I believe:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disney_Digital_Network
Yeah everyone just forgot all about that strangely and now Night Media is the new thing
>Jontron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JonTron
>In May 2015, Jafari released a spin-off web series on his YouTube channel titled JonTron's StarCade, in which he reviews games based on the Star Wars franchise.[17] The webseries included cameos from numerous other Internet personalities and actors, such as Egoraptor, Markiplier, Nathan Barnatt, Ross O'Donovan, and Kyle Hebert. The series was produced by Maker Studios, a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company, and concluded in December 2015, after nine episodes.
>The series was produced by Maker Studios, a subsidiary of The Walt Disney Company
No, not him too......
All of them. You just don’t get it man, you CANT make it unless you sign that deal. Why the fuck would MrBeast or Pewds need to be signed to some random Disney contract to talk to a camera? Because you HAVE TO
Based knower.
Disney own Night Media as well, I’m sure. Just a House of Mouse for the next generation.
He did a reaction to a /misc/ post about this and just played it off like it didn't matter and wasn't suHispanicious or anything, and his audience ate it up. So even his dumbfuck viewers know he's apart of a literal shill company and don't care.
take your meds. famous people use pr firms, big news breaking here. the conspiracy laid bare!!!
You need to remember that these guys have full time shills in their chats to run up a narrative and will all respond almost instantaneously with more or less the same message to provide an apparent consensus of opinion.
Rewatch that reaction and watch him squirm and quickly close the tab when he got the ESG part of that pol post. hilarious
He was paid off, either directly or indirectly. He even gave away during the Dragonflight launch streams that he has direct connections to Blizzard representatives when somebody in his raid group told him one of his chatters was harassing him, and he told the guy to tell him the chatters name so that he can get a blizzard rep that he "personally knows" to ban the guy from the game.
he's literally admitted he's a sociopath who would scam you in a second
as would literally everyone else. nobody is streaming because they love their communities or some shit like that. they do it because money.
Killed his mom to make it
His friend cody literally beat his girlfriend half to death and has a restraining order against him now (and other girlfriends of his) and Asmon lied about the reason for his arrest (telling everyone it was for petty theft), helped start up his twitch career, and gave him access to Asmon's audience filled with women to potentially abuse as well. And if you try to bring this up in his communties (with evidence of his arrest and domestic violence charges) you will be banned.
He also says he has no empathy for dogs.
On top of so many other things he's said and done. We're not even getting into the whole content theft thing (reacting). Other than the cody domestic abuse thing he's not even hiding what kind of person he is. If you still watch him you genuinely must agree with the shit he says and believes. You can't pretend at this point that you just don't know he's a literal sociopathic subhuman.
He killed his mother
I wish there was a Horde character option that Garrosh envisioned. World pvp would be everyone against them and it'd be pretty epic.
>no chance of garrosh orc supremacy horde
>no chance of pre-rewrite sylvanas pragmatism them or us horde
>No "ORC LIVES MATTER" storyline
shame
Warcraft lore and story was fucked the day WoW released because the faceless MMO "champion"-centered storytelling is fundamentally at odds with how Warcraft 3 presented the world's story. A bunch of in-lore nobodies, by themselves, should never have had the power or capability of defeating someone like Ragnaros, Kel'Thuzad or whoever else is around that benchmark. The players should have always been relegated as the Footsoldiers of any dungeon, raid or whatever that are accompanying the main character for that specific quest(line).
For an example, the ICC raid should have had Tirion actively battling the Lich King instead of being encased in fucking ice and the players should have been trying to do pot-shots, dodging shit that was way beyond their level and killing off adds that were harassing Tirion. The moment the player in an MMO has any actual importance to the story, the latter always suffers and degrades because you can't do anything beyond mediocrity with a faceless, voiceless and non-interactive character (player).
easy preorder
Metzen cannot fix WoW's problems (and up to some extent makes them worse because he likes capeshit) but at the very least he likes (and plays) the game he's selling to blizzdrones
christ metzen
Why do people still play this shit? Dopamine loot treadmill garbage with self inserting homosexuals and feminists. Just why?
nostalgia plus sunk cost fallacy and a hint fomo
The singular good bit of post-Legion lore is that Lor'themar and Thalyssra got married. The Lord Chad of Silvermoon stays winning
>I hate thing
>oh yeah well fuck you I hated thing first you shit slurping homosexual haha I win
>I like thing
>fuck you thing is terrible
>fuck both of you I liked thing first and you ruined it by liking it after I did
>why do you hate thing
>memes and hyperbole and obvious misrepresentations any smoothbrained normie can see thru obviously
>and if you call me on that I'll call you a shill!
Never change, Ganker. Your opinion on things is a perfect guide for how not to think.
Shut the fuck up blizzdrone
What the shit story, the shit graphics, the shit gameplay, the shit community, and the shit devs arent reason enough there is no meme thats the fucking problem its garbage all the way top down in every level
You have the devs who would turn their backs on a rape whilst the steal breast milk, and heaven forbid you ask them to fix the fucking game and they'd their projection their cowardice on you to justify not having to do work
You have the Story which has becomed over the last expansion all nuance removed from character to the points of caricature because they want the "marvel audience"
You have the graphics which are out of touch with lore and enviroment and you KNOW they could have done better because the fucking NPC's look better then your PC
You have the community always ready to tear you a new asshole and backstab each other and gameplay unbalanced because again the fucking devs are lazy scumbags.
Now tell me where is the memes and hyperbole and obvious misrepresentations
point them out right now you worthless blizz cockholster
>expac all about dragons
>they just turn into humanoids
lame
>I am not alone
LET EXPANSE CONTRACT
EON BECOME INSTANT
ehhh i didnt like that either
Fyrakk should have went illidan on Alexstrazza and talk about what imprisonment does to the mind or talk about she murdered her sister for wanting to free him.
>Defenders of the tree!
I'm fucking embarrassed to have ever played this game.
I resubbed out of pure boredom and got blasted with awful UI changes.
Is she going to blow me?
>he didnt skip the cutscenes
Imagine still seething about TBC 15 years later when it was already soft-retconned and Illidan came back.
Because what Late Vanilla and TBC created became the standard for lore rape ingame, also TBC was the expansion where they shit books and comics instead of putting in game.
The Marketing Discord battalion is in full force today and thew /wowg/ shills discovered these threads
Dunmer love Argonian cock
It is canon that all dunmer women are sluts that ate into yuri and bestiality too.
And you can blame the good daedra for that
>Azshara posting
nice projection, all it lacks is the tentacle rape she suffered later on.
>suffered
She's the one doing the raping, anon.
>doing
Yeah... Doing
N'zoth is dead and Azshara is taking a break until Midnight. It's quite clear who won between the two of them.
>4 WoW threads up
The fuck is going on
>emerald dream is a normal forest you can find anywhere in the game
>content takes 2hrs
>timegated
>public event is TF2 cart escort
>this is it for the next year
Emerald Dream should have been something horrific like out of a Daedric realm
>nuBlizzdrone seething over TES
Metzen is a face to hide brand-toxic Danuser behind.
God the animatinos are so SHIT, they look worse than grub hub, eyes always move first then mouth moves, it's so cringe.Why are americans so bad at animation??
>implying this shit wasn't already written out and produced years ago
why do you retards think one guy can bring immediate change to an already in-progress expansion?
>Why did Blizzard bring Chris Metzen back?
I doubt that he has any saying about gameplay and lore decisions. He is nothing more than a PR stunt.
>PR stunt
so it seems, so it seems
What else would he be?
My biggest wish is that WoW gets killed in a spectacular manner.
This. The biggest take away I got from Phil Spencer on Blizzcon was that he only mentioned how much he loved the inclusivity of Blizzards games. Not the stories, the gameplay or anything else just the inclusivity. MS are probably going to crash and burn this absolutely 100% intentionally.
That’s what Microsoft does and always has done since its very inception. They destroy any and all competitors in the field whether they have to buy them and then wreck them or not, willing to bet they forced Starfield out the door too knowing it was nowhere near ready.
He's a hype man. It's a contract to attract gullible marks.
They can't even keep classic retro when it's its stated purpose. to imagine he can "save" anything is beyond retarded.
>He's a hype man. It's a contract to attract gullible marks.
And it worked on Pyromancer lmao
No, lack of money and desperation worked on the grifter like it does all others.
Nobody gets big on YT without working for an agency.
>playing worlo for the fucking story
LEMAOOOOOOOOOOO
Like how fucking retarded do you have to be to care about this shit?
Funniest part about this is some anons are gonna find Jesus because of wow after they dig into the youtuber rabbit hole
The fuck are you talking about?
It’s the devils world and you won’t make it without selling your soul to get there
Oh. Yeah. No such thing as self made in today's world.
Remember this?