why did e3 die?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Internet

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Sponsored by EA
    nothing was lost. nothing was ever had.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Covid cope and the balkanization of mass media all chasing a chimerical audience.

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    became a marketing show and the marketers all got extremely moronic after 2007 or so, with each successive year being a contest to out-moron last year's moronic shitshow

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    people can watch ads at home

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This and the diminishing returns on hardware generations. We're well past the point where hardware differences don't even matter between brands.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That and games take over half a decade to release nowadays, relying on sheer volume size of the industry and indies between major releases.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it died of cringe

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    even if e3 decided to not be shit theres no games/hardware to generate interest

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo? Idk.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was them, they were the first of the big 3 to withdraw

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >It was them, they were the first of the big 3 to withdraw
        Why do you morons keep making this claim? The opposite is the truth. Nintendo were the last to withdraw and consistently invested the most into E3 of the attending publishers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      It was them, they were the first of the big 3 to withdraw

      They started it but by no means killed it.
      That was companies spending half of their time with ads or non-vidya related stuff.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    media and journalists gave up any attempt at being anything but a redundant department of marketing.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Fewer and fewer games to announce now, plus they can just do directs on YT. I think part of the problem with E3 is that is moved away from its tradeshow roots and became an advertising platform. Plus

      Remember when E3 was held in an airplane hangar in the 00's. This has happened before. The industry did a turn around because they need big tent pole events to attract normies. It will probably come back at some point if the industry is not completely moronic these days.

      Why E3 though and not the several other gaming events? Too many event and too few games.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They shut down for 3 years due to a cough and proved to the industry it was irrelevant.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Now that they have learned that they can make prerecorded shows that they can hype up themselves without having to compete with others manufacturers they don't need E3 anymore.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So what is it even for now, PC blobs?
    You now realize console chads were right all along.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      E3 was always a console show. Now they don't have anything to show off so why even show up? What games would Sony present? (lol) Microsoft has no exclusives and Nintendo already has their own thing.7

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >All three console makers pulled out
    Damn, witnessing E3 getting massacred in real time
    It hasn't been good in years so I won't miss it but I hope that doesn't mean they just won't have any sort of mass announcements

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Whenever E3 was canceled Nintendo just announced their stuff on Twitter so I fully expect at least them to that again this year

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >literally the only reason to watch are out

    Kek

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why did e3 die?
    it died like more than 10 years ago
    the internet and youtube allowed companies to market their games more freely
    they also no longer had to make marketable builds for a specific event and could just have their own events whenever
    it got over taken by other cons and events

    Its a relic of a bygone era as technology advanced and was no longer needed. I dont understand why this is a question every year

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I think the bigger issue was that most companies just embarrassed themselves at it.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        i will miss e3 cringe kino

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, E3 is like the Guinness Book of World Records.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        For a throwaway comment, this was pretty accurate.
        >Still theoretically interesting
        >But when you open it, it's mostly crap and sponsored fodder
        >You don't remember realising it was worthless, or coming to hate it. But now that it's basically gone, you don't care.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I thought it was a fun all-purpose trivia and curiosities book for children. When there's some info worth reading of course, the last edition I read was the 2012.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          the guinness book of world records ended up having a lot of people submitting either self harm or animal abuse shit to it just to get attention in le ebin book

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >they also no longer had to make marketable builds for a specific event and could just have their own events whenever
      They could. But without E3 they don't.
      If you haven't noticed. Event though they now can hold their own events whenever, and occasionally do. They mostly just hold all their cards close to their chests. And whenever they do show some game, it's only but a fraction of what you'd usually see at E3, provided it's even more than a single game to begin with. And we just don't get a decent picture of what the market actually has to offer for the coming year.

      Everything is spaced out. No or at least extremely little information is concentrated ahead of time. And they all just aim to surprise whenever, and just try not to overlap with other news.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't follow e3 in years. Whatever I'm not the target audience anymore.
    t. boomer

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why do game companies no longer use journos as a middleman between them and consumers? It really is a mystery. Anyway here's a clip of an interaction between a journalist and a game dev over a silly joke the dev made during an interview trying to hype up his upcoming game

    https://soundcloud.com/ben-kuchera/jaffe-confrontation

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      why pay to a journo when you already pay to a marketing department and they can put promo mats on social networks themselves?

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    removing booth babes was the beginning of the end

    frick pozzed burgerland game shows.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >booth babes are bad because it sexualize women
      >10 years later
      >actually women looking like bawds is okay

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They simultaneously want to take away anything straight males will like while degrading, debasing and destabilising society. Notice how its only fat ugly women and "women" that go on bawd walks or keep appearing naked? It is why attractive women in games pisses them off more then anything else.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The same gays that cried about booth babes are subscribed to at least one onlyfans page now, I guarantee it.

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure Geoff Keliegh will still be hosting some shill show for you to slop up

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      yummy wummy dead space clones and chinese mobile games

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No one wanted to pay money to share the spotlight so they just produce their own Nintendo direct. Funny to see these same companies flock to Geoff but he might even be paying THEM so I guess it works out.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >E3 bad because... I don't like games!
    Everyone who thinks like that should kill themselves

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Remember when E3 was held in an airplane hangar in the 00's. This has happened before. The industry did a turn around because they need big tent pole events to attract normies. It will probably come back at some point if the industry is not completely moronic these days.

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Companies are scared shitless of something like this happening again at a live show.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      and in the end, the cuck caved in, played immortal and said it was great

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Um.
        They released it on PC. That was the entire issue he was annoyed about.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          he was annoyed about no major diablo coming to PC
          d4 or resurrected weren't even announced back then

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he played POE, wasn't much of a stand up guy after that.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >https://soundcloud.com/ben-kuchera/jaffe-confrontation
        i dont remember him saying it was great

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo started their Direct and sony and microshit followed suit

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Covid

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It gave Squilliam a heart attack every year, so they had to be told to stop being any good.

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Devs can't even ship finished games. You expect them to make a show floor demo?
    E3 died because the industry is in a state of collapse. AAA development has reached unsustainable levels and is a ticking time bomb.

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    will he ever stop winning?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Pissed Jose was right
      Frick this guy

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What's 7 dollar sanchez up to these days

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Some girl tried to "me too" him and destroy his career. He lawyered up, brought the receipts, and remained uncancelled.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          He does movie reviews and news segments with his two mexican mates.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    SJW compilations brainwashed masses of chuds

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Nintendo starts doing directs, doesn't cost anything other than employee time which would have been spent on floor staff anyway and can be pre-recorded to prevent on-stage frick ups
    >Snoy realizes they can do absolute state (of play)
    >Microsoft realizes they can do the same
    E3 completely and unironically is no longer neccesary in modern times. It's a waste of money for everyone involved

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Less and less measurable impact from inviting the gaming press to expensive shoulder rubbing events, when you can speak directly to your audience on social media.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Marvel literally bought the best mobile game award on the previous show.

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >growing up my older brother and I would dream of attending one day
    if only we were old enough back then when vidya was actually good

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    E3 Thrived in a time when developers actually delivered good games every 2 years, but in the age of 1 game per decade and constant delays it's impossible for Sony/Microsoft to have tons of big announcements every year, so it's easier to just announce/preview games at their own stream events one by one when they're ready, rather than trying to get a bunch at once, every single year for one event.

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it's a trade show, CES has essentially taken its place and gaming is dead so (worthwhile) announcements are out the window

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >CES has essentially taken its place
      E3 was literally created because the video game industry had grown so large that they were taking up too much space at CES and had to spin off into their own trade show.

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I guess it has something to do with paying for an absurd amount of money just to have an exhibit on E3 when they could just put their own conference up on the internet for lesser cost and since they're a major video game company, they really don't need spotlight from a struggling expo when 99% of gamers are pretty updated about their latest line-ups.

    It's my wild guess, but there could be better internal reasons.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What's the point of a conference these days when video on demand works perfectly fine like it has been doing for Nintendo. I think the only reason conferences are still done is because legacy can take an age to dispose of if your company has been doing it for decades.

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody gets the joke anymore

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone actually watch E3 to see game announcements and trailers and all that?
    For the past ten years at least, I've only watched E3 because everyone here was watching it and it was fun to shitpost about it. I can't even imagine watching it alone.
    We're so far past the days when I would buy the local gaming magazine to read their reports on E3 and get excited about the games they announced there.

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Died of feminism and journos cuckery
    >NOOOOOOOO WE CANT HAVE SCANTLY DRESSED WOMEN AT OUR AFTER PARTIES

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    game awards is the new oscars is the new E3 literally millions of people tune in theres no better time to announce big shit go ahead name something that even comes close

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit. Game awards had to beg Nintendo to save their show with Smash announcements and this year, Game awards needed to beg Valve to give away Steam Decks.

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    E3 is for retail. retail is shrinking and is basically at the point that PC was at in the 00s.

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Gamescom ... germany is saving gaming

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Literally nothing of worth ever gets announced at Gamescon, companies will keep their Direct style showcase and whatever is left gets dropped at TGS and then TGA.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Consolidation of game studios. E3 made sense when there were many independent studios, why make it now when the 5 biggest studios bought enough of the market to each make a show of their own?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Plus, the game awards is just E3 with an extra gimmick attached to validate its existence.

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    So, what's the point of this year's E3? Show floor demo from third party publishers?

  45. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It all started with the Nintendo Direct and Nintendo was no longer performing at E3 Live Shows

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    No reason to give the competition the chance to upstage you.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They got rid of Booth Babes.

  48. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Phil Spencer literally just confirmed that they're on the board of the ESA and that Microsoft will have their own showcase during the week of E3 at the Dolby Theater (literally across the street from E3)

  49. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I get free tickets through work but now im not even sure its worth a 2 hour drive to LA Ill probably go i guess since its going to be the last E3 most likely.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >free tickets through work
      which game stop are you a manager of?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Game dev, do they really hand them out to retail people though?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, they used to. i'm not sure the last time that was really a thing, though.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      E3 fricking sucks. GDC is where it's at.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >free tickets
      are usually the sign of something being extremely off.

      I mean, I wouldn't be surprised about free plane tickets to the US at this point.

  50. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Uh, we’re in the middle of a fricking global pandemic? Im glad E3 is being responsible and putting people’s health and safety before video games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, it's irresponsible to hold an event like this in the middle of autism pandemic.

  51. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo Direct, State of Play, whatever Xbox does. With the ability to interact with your core audience the way streaming has allowed, shit like E3 has become irrelevant.

  52. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody got upset when Nintendo took all the attention away from their expensive conferences and booths with the Wii reveal. They demanded that it be made more closed so they can control information and hype better but then Nintendo screwed them again when Directs took off so everybody started copying them. Covid finished off the corpse.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The funniest thing about Nintendo Directs, is that they probably would have never have happened if it wasn't for American news media repeatedly lying and defaming Nintendo with misinformation articles.

  53. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    so it's just EA, ubisoft and activision with some indie shit sprinkled in?

  54. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I hope whatever it was is fatal enough to keep people from watching a fricking dedicated commercial venue for video games.

  55. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why did e3 die?
    Nintendo killed it with the direct. And Dorito Pope burned its remains.

  56. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When they've let in porn companies in there too, not kidding look it out. There is a kid playing minecraft on a screen, few meters away there's a guy jerking off in the newest VR machine.

  57. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >pay big bucks to be present on the showfloor
    >pay big bucks for a concert hall for your presentation
    >only for jurnos, also need to pay bucks so that they write something nice about you
    >have all the presentations roughly at the same time, so it‘s easy to be overshadowed

    vs.

    >pay nothing for online streaming
    >also have a wider audience
    >time the schedule to your likings, so that you gave full spotlight

    I really wonder why

    also,
    >pay all this money so that you can present one or two new games now, vs. loads of games in the past

    you really must be moronic if you don‘t understand this.

  58. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't it always like a venue for game devs/producers to get together and grease the wheels on potential new projects? Social media probably just filled that networking void after Covid shelved E3 for so long

  59. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why did e3 die?
    because console makers and devs have ONE game to show once every 6 years of production
    E3 should be every 5 years

  60. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Publishers don't have anything to announce, or to even showcase again. They don't have any games. There are no games.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      the game industry for big developers has fundamentally changed, a developer just needs one good game and they can coast off it for a decade through live services and microtransactions today unlike in the past when they needed to have multiple complete games published each year to keep revenue coming in.

  61. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >2002 E3

    >Microsoft

    Crimson Skies
    Dead to Rights
    Dead or Alive 3
    Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance
    Ninja Gaiden
    Panzer Dragoon Orta
    Project Ego
    Psychonauts
    Steel Battalion

    >Nintendo

    Super Mario Sunshine
    Zelda: The Wind Waker
    Zelda: Four Swords
    Metroid Fusion
    Star Fox Adventures
    Metroid Prime
    Animal Crossing

    >Sony

    Contra: Shattered Soldier
    Devil May Cry 2
    Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance
    Ratchet & Clank
    Red Faction 2
    Shinobi
    Silent Hill 3
    Sly Cooper
    SOCOM: Navy Seals
    Suikoden III

    How can the current year possibly compete? With remasters, ports, and the same games that keep getting teased year after year without actually coming out?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      New 3D Mario game.
      New 2D Mario game.
      BotW 2.
      Splatoon expansion.
      Pokemon expansion.
      Xenoblade expansion.
      Pokemon Legends 2.
      2D Metroid.
      Some new property.
      Silksong Switch & Gamepass shadowdrop.

      Nintendo could do it.

  62. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They dunked it into a lake a sanitizers and held it under

  63. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Black person
    Trannies
    homosexuals
    Normies
    Journos
    Twitch prostitutes

  64. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Modern games are bloated, repetitive, homogenous and modern developers are slow as frick.
    We're still waiting for The Last Night and Beyond Good and Evil 2 (E3 2017).

  65. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  66. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      2009 wasn't that bad

  67. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's due to the general decline of the Western world throughout the 10s.
    They are probably glad, they can attempt to shift the blame to Covid and Putin.
    Peak E3 was 2005 with the last extremely good one being 2010 and an overall steep decline since then.

  68. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    OH no
    Anyway

  69. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >It tooks years of gamers complaining about shitty E3 shows before companies realized that all people wanted was just game trailers and to show off gameplay
    >what about the funny skits in between the celebrities
    >it's all expensive stuff and if nobody cares about it why waste money
    >then realize that since gamers all watch it online anyways why not just skip the show entirely and just show trailers of games in one go

    No company wants to be the laughing stock of E3 anymore either. Every company that was embarrassed by the memes are the ones who would quit the show.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This
      >Nintendo has a really shitty conference
      >ponders if a live stage event is worth it given most people watch it from home glued to a TV or a computer
      >switches to nintendo direct format, massive success
      And now
      >2021 happens
      >no floor demos
      >no drop in sales or coverage
      >big 3 all realize that there is no reason to pay E3 thousands of dollars to rent convention space so journalists can play games early when you can just invite the journalists to your own studio

      There is no service brought by E3. Nothing whatsoever. It provided a venue back in the 90s and 00s before the boom of the internet, but there is literally no reason for anything about the event to exist anymore. The game awards is probably going to go fully digital next after companies realize attending isn't worth the embarrassment of a rabbi Bill Clinton incident

  70. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Game companies realized they can just do their own presentation

  71. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I would prefer all these having companies having their reveals at the same time and not sprinkled throughout the year at random times

  72. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There's no reason to have floor presentations. Game demos don't actually sell games, and the floor space is a huge waste of money. Not to mention it means you can't bring buggy demos.

    Nintendo and MS will align their presentations the same way they did in 2021's digital E3, but for them there is no reason to do anything else.

  73. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The internet made it irrelevant: companies just make their announcements when they want, going straight to the point.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >going straight to the point
      ...and without needing to bribe "journalists".

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >companies just make their announcements when they want
      But that's inferior to when something like E3 could force their hands to actually show a bunch of stuff.
      For instance. If there was a proper E3 last year, I can promise you we would have seen a bunch of Tears of the Kingdom alongside other games. Instead we've gotten nothing and just keep waiting for whatever they might have for their next Nintendo Direct.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >But that's inferior to when something like E3 could force their hands to actually show a bunch of stuff.
        It's quite the opposite: forcing companies to "show something" at E3 always was a bad thing. Developers had to waste precious time and resources cobbling together something to show at E3 rather than letting the project flow naturally, and not only that something never reflected the finished project but it was a waste of resources and created false expectations.
        Without being forced to show something at an arbitrary date, developers work on their projects at their own pace and release / announce them when they're ready.

        I don't think you want a rushed Tears of the Kingdom, let alone a tech demo that will never resemble the finished game.

  74. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >why did e3 die?
    The pandemic killed it and the industry figured out they don't even have to show demos or even gameplay anymore, just a teaser with a title is enough to drive up hype more than any other thing you could do at e3

  75. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    it stopped being about gameplay

  76. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >vidya now dominated by the mutts
    >mutts are making worse and worse games
    >AAA games get released in a shitty state#
    >indie just a legal plagiarism
    >west also generally doesn't understand what a video game is
    >conclusion: you can't showcase anything interesting in a large-scaled gaming event
    >E3 is just the representation of modern vidya
    good job ruining everything as always you stupid mutts

  77. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >console companies ducking out hard

    One more step to turning e3 into an indie showcase, aka something actually worth watching.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >indie
      >worth watching
      i'm not going to buy your pixelshit. you shouldn't have left school

  78. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    oh gee I wonder why

  79. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    what purpose does it serve, it made sense before livestreaming was a thing. every developer can just announce games on their social media and instantly have all their fans informed about it and watching the trailer.
    it's like asking why the newspaper dispenser died

  80. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    e3 was a console show primarily, now that the PC increasingly has been recognized as being better and exclusives arent as much a thing anymore for consoles there's nothing to really hold it up. That and people can look things up on the internet.

  81. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    strong consoomerism losing it's flavor over the course of time
    americans are the main market and they are not good at making games
    actual video game-ish video games are not popular
    vidya is essentially just a movie/grind/social substitute these days
    the industry ruined E3 the way they ruined handhelds. both shut a shadow of their former self, never to be redeemed again

  82. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Covid autism and the big three realizing they cam just do their own conferences/directs from home

  83. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    youtube has all of the commercials/game trailers

  84. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of booth babes

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