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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dvd player /thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      piracy
      cheap dvd
      third world
      sage

      Zoomers in the streaming world don't understand the power of a DVD player

      >Jewtuber's answers
      stupid zoomers you weren't even born back then.
      Real answer is GTA + MGS2 + Sony having market worldwide while Shittendo only focusing on USA/UK/Japan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Real answer is GTA + MGS2
        Metal Gear doesn't sell as well as Ganker thinks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MGS2 was the most anticipated game for PS2 it made the console sell like hot cakes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it was the DVD player and selling the console for a decade in 3rd world shitholes lol. GTASA sold less than 20 million and MGS2 barely did 10. Favelas bought it for the DVD FIFA player

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >my shittendo toy lost because of [racism]
          amazing

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >saying the PS2 sold because its a DVD player and was sold for a decade at bargain bin prices is racism

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing he said was racist, and racism is based anyways

            >reality
            lol
            lmao, even

            >he’s still coping
            Kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        26 year old zoomer here. My older brother explicitly used the DVD player angle to convince our mom to buy us a PS2.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MGS wasn't that popular and GTA III came after everyone and their mom bought it as a DVD player.

        Being a DVD player + rumors of being easy to pirate for made everyone and their mom own one.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Real answer is GTA + MGS2
          Metal Gear doesn't sell as well as Ganker thinks.

          holy cope

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >source: some homosexual journalists
            ~~*wikipedia*~~ at its finest.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DA JOOS are trying to convince you that MGS2 was a game people were excited for
              There's no way you can genuinely believe this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The first quote is from a fat Sony fanboy who does have an interest in convincing you MGS2 was good.

                >noooo my own Shittendo cope is more reliable source
                lmao

                Where did I say that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                /pol/tards believe everything is a israeli plot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Underage v&

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >vand

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >noooo my own Shittendo cope is more reliable source
              lmao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah all 7 million PS2s sold because of MGS2 were a big factor

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It being DVD player was definitely a strong argument for PS2 in our family. We didn't even play MGS or GTA back in the day.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds to me like you are the one that wasn't around back then. It was the cheapest DVD player on the market and most people I know that had one got it SPECIFICALLY because it did both

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It was the cheapest DVD player on the market
          Nope.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No it wasn't. There were DVD players regularly for under $100. You'd know this if you actually bought stuff at the time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                After the PS2 came out, not before

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >most of the PS2's sales happened immediately on launch before DVD players dropped in price
                Even at the PS2's launch, there were still cheaper DVD players. That's setting aside the moronic implication you just made that all its sales happened at launch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There weren’t

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.ign.com/articles/2000/08/19/dvd-player-buyers-guide
                Even in 2000 there were DVD players available at regular price (not on sale) for under $300. You are objectively wrong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even the lowest cost one in your article is $270. Wow you got me, it wasn’t actually a free console with a DVD player, it was a $30 console! Big difference!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Even the lowest cost one in your article is $270.
                Which means that in 2000 there were high quality DVD players (not cheapo Walmart ones) that at regular price were below the price of the PS2. You're objectively wrong. Getting mad won't change that. The PS2 was never the cheapest DVD player available, that's just something tendies say to rationalize its sales.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >snoy is triggered by the fact that it being able to play DVDs was a major selling point at the time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice backpedal and damage control, but you said

                Sounds to me like you are the one that wasn't around back then. It was the cheapest DVD player on the market and most people I know that had one got it SPECIFICALLY because it did both

                >It was the cheapest DVD player on the market
                Piss and shit your pants all you want, but you're a lying moron who was a child at the time and doesn't know how much things used to actually cost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You replied to the wrong anon, I didn’t make the post you linked

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hes now going full schizo
                I'm sorry you're too young to have played a PS2 but every kid used it being a DVD player and console for cheaper prices as a selling point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm sorry you're too young to have played a PS2
                My first console was the NES. Your angry lies won't change anything. No amount of tendie rage will change that people weren't buying the PS2 as a cheap DVD player, and the scenario you're inventing where "kids were pitching it to their parents" is schizo nonsense.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >people weren't buying the PS2 as a cheap DVD player
                This is something that could only be said by someone born after 9/11. Or you're from a turd world country. Either way you weren't there.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm American and in my 30s. That's how I know you're completely full of shit and weren't old enough to actually look at electronics prices in the early 2000s.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moronic snygger refuses to accept reality and instead cries about "duh tendies" when people who bought PS2s new talk about using it being a console AND DVD player as a selling point to get it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >as a selling point to get it
                Kids weren't making sales pitches about DVD players to get their parents to buy them PS2s, you fricking idiot. When parents asked kids which console they wanted, they said PS2. That was it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ahh so you are a thirdie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not the one who came from a family so poor that had to make sales pitches any time they wanted a toy that normal kids got.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                rahj you have to understand that $300 (effectively $550 factoring inflation) is not a "normal kids toy"
                I know you got your ps2 for $20 after sony air dropped 20 million onto the shanty town you live in but thats not the normal experience

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rahj you have to understand that $300 (effectively $550 factoring inflation) is not a "normal kids toy"
                >consoles weren't normal kids' toys because inflation
                >no, I don't understand buying power of the dollar against consumer prices
                What a silly little third worlder.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black person, the options were get a DVD player, or get a DVD player and a console for the same price, 99% of people are going to choose the latter option

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >or get a DVD player and a console for the same price
                Wrong. That article talks about high quality DVD players. An average DVD player in 2000 was only around $100 and people who didn't play games and just wanted a cheap DVD player sure as shit weren't spending 3 times that amount just for a DVD player.
                https://www.orlandosentinel.com/1999/10/24/finally-shopping-for-a-dvd-player-youre-not-alone-as-prices-fall-the-digital-video-disc-player-is-expected-to-become-the-hot-adult-toy-for-christmas/
                Even in 1999, you could get the cheap ones for $200. Stop fricking lying because some moronic youtuber told you that the PS2 was a cheap DVD player everyone bought. It wasn't. It was never even close to being the cheapest DVD player you could buy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Give a non-paywalled source

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >tendie who doesn't know anything about technology, past or present, is too fricking stupid to use a script blocker
                Checks out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Come on, give a non-paywalled source, I’m at work

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >she gets cucked by paywalls like a goy

                anon, get the bypass paywall clean extension

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            ...b-bakana.....I've been.......defeated.........

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it was a cheap DVD player with a game console bolted on, everyone I've ever known, myself included, convinced our parents to get one BECAUSE it was a DVD player on top of being a game console

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally this. DVDs were just taking off and the PS2 was every 14 year old's first DVD player.

      That and the rampant piracy. Every kid in class had a chipped PS2.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Literally this.
        Literally that is what tendies say to make themselves feel better.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No its stating reality

          MGS2 was the most anticipated game for PS2 it made the console sell like hot cakes

          It sold 7 million, it was not the driving factor for the sales

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No its stating reality
            In your demented mind, yes. I grew up in an upper middle class white suburb in America. Everyone had a PS2 because people liked the games. Some kids had Xbox for Halo, and a few had Gamecube because they were unfortunate enough to have had an N64 before.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >my anecdote trumps reality
              Keep staying delusional I guess

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >reality
                lol
                lmao, even

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Zoomers in the streaming world don't understand the power of a DVD player

      DVDs.

      Xbox also has DVD

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so roughly 2% of the world population owned one? i thought it would have been way, way more

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so roughly 2% of the world population owned one?
          you don't need a ps2 per individual you need one per family so multiply by 5 and you get 10%

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shut up meg

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Xbox also has DVD
        Xbox locked that functionality behind buying the DVD remote to avoid paying DVD licensing on every console.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >buying the DVD remote
          So what?
          PS2 players had to buy a memory card (an addon) to be able to save the game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      piracy
      cheap dvd
      third world
      sage

      Unironically this. PS2 was THE videogame in all shithole countries.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Dvd players were a ridiculously hot commodity in the early 2000s and the PS2 was the best one in the price range. It wasn't difficult to convince a Boomer parent to get one.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this, my brother wanted a dvd player for his birthday and then realized a ps2 was literally cheaper and could play games. so we ended up with two ps2s

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty much, it was a dvd player and also a videogame. It was also easy to find one with a chip and you could burn a dvd and play any game for free. Every third world poorgay had one at some point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread
      + snoys destroyed forever by the Switch, which will soon take over the PS2 sales despite just being a GAMES console with GAMES

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >console
        *handheld

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Console* sorry this was already settled by the US courts

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A handheld what, anon?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >GAMES console with GAMES
        bad games, and ports of a system that was the last attempt to make good games. Every switch game feels like a tech demo (princess peach) or a rushed job lacking actual quality. The ones that do have quality, are a direct sequel of a wii u game or an actual port. It does NOT deserve to surpass the ps2 as ps2 actually had GOOD GAMES. It's tragic that shit even surpassed the wii, hope it never surpasses the DS either.
        >inb4 snoy
        I never bought a sonystation in my life, I've only bought nintendo. But even now I skipped the switch because I know when quality starts to dip and I jump ship. That's why I never fell for the xmeme or sony in the first place, doomed to make shit games eventually.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not a snoy but HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE PLAYSTATION

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah let's just forget that the PS2 had the best and most varied game library ever.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, stop and ask yourself why the PS2 had such a strong library.

        Because it had 3rd party support.

        Why did it have 3rd party support?

        Because it was selling.

        Why were initial sales so strong?

        THE DVD PLAYER

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why did it have 3rd party support?
          Because Nintendo was fricking moronic and burnt its bridges with 3rd party devs. That's why Square moved to the PS1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's hilarious is being a teen during the release this was parroted and said by so many people and then I never once in my life went to a single friend's house who had convinced their parents to buy a PS2 because of the DVD player. These same people tried it again with whichever PS has the built in blu ray.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I convinced my dad to buy a PS1, so he could also listen to his rock and heavy metal cds, like Sodom, Ramones and Iron Maiden.
        He ended up never using it anyway lol 🙂

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only in 3rd world countries

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Third worlder here
        Chipped ps2 + pirated dvds was impossible to watch. Freezing and audio skipping all the time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DVD player and it was fricking easy to pirate ps2 games. Dreamcast is easy to pirate games too.
      Also ps2 games had shittier performance compared to GameCube.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dishonest tendie post, DVD players were already cheap by 2002~2003. the ps2 had a huge library of good games, every month 2 or 3 games were released, pick any year of the ps2 from 2001 to 2008 and it had more good games at that year than the entire cube library

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They weren’t tho, lol, we already were through this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I live in a 3rd world shithole and we had 2 DVD players before my dad gave me a PS2 in 2004

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we already were through this
          Yeah, and by 1999 you could get DVD players for $200. By 2000 it was $100.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nope, you still haven’t proven that, and your own IGN link literally debunked your argument

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              see

              >she gets cucked by paywalls like a goy

              anon, get the bypass paywall clean extension

              You being too fricking stupid to get past simple script doesn't change reality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah, your IGN link literally disproved it. Lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a high quality DVD player in 2000 costing less than a PS2 disproves that DVD players were cheaper than the PS2 in 2000
                It's shocking how mentally ill tendies are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >high quality
                >DVD player
                They play DVDs Black person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >all DVD players are the same
                How is it possible for tendies to be as tech illiterate as they are? It's absolutely fricking insane.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No but DVD players sony made were

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >high quality dvd player
                Just like the PS2

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The people that cared about high quality DVD playback weren't paying more money for a worse DVD player. This imaginary idea that the PS2 was the cheapest and that kids were shilling it to their parents was absurd.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Even in your best case scenario there would be a $100 console and $200 DVD mixed as 1

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I actually laughed reading this post and trying to follow your insane math.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you a zoomer who likes to make shit up or what? I lived through that era and I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players. DVD players cost a fortune when they first hit the market.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pure, unaltered, tendie delusion

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based tendie telling the truth

      I live in a 3rd world shithole and we had 2 DVD players before my dad gave me a PS2 in 2004

      Lmao quit lying rajeesh, sony only started selling primarily to your favela shithole once the PS3 came out

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        delusional, as aways

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Keep coping rajeesh

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Reminder DVD players was like twice the cost of a ps2 until extremely late into the game were they were the same price generally. I knew half a dozen kids who got a ps2 solely for it being a DVD player

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Reminder DVD players was like twice the cost of a ps2 until extremely late into the game

        >she gets cucked by paywalls like a goy

        anon, get the bypass paywall clean extension

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tendiemutt cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the real reason actually

      >Why did it have 3rd party support?
      Because Nintendo was fricking moronic and burnt its bridges with 3rd party devs. That's why Square moved to the PS1.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Games journalists always said this but it isnt true. I was a normie for a long time and people just bought $500 dvd players at the time. Literally nobody boughr a ps2 and no games. No ody bought this for the dvd player. U got suckered by big media once again.

      Iy was popular cause it had 1000's of games and it looked so much better than ps1. Thats all

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even sony admits the DVD player was massive

        >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          *in Japan at launch

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Japan is a first world country so yes it still can easily be extrapolated to the rest of the world, keep coping about how Japan doesn’t count, not like its the first time Ive seen it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >it still can easily be extrapolated to the rest of the world
              No it can't, because differently timed launches with different lineups are received differently. Nice try.
              >not like its the first time Ive seen it
              Only time I've ever seen it is tendies getting mad that the Saturn beat the N64 on their home turf.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Black person every week theres a thread full of snoys crying that "japan doesn't count PS5 isn't dying!!!"
                you talking about the insane cope threads about the saturn don't change anything

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, I don't read your modern console shitposting threads because I don't care about any of them. They all became pointless after the 7th gen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nice cope
                trying to start schizo babble about the saturn isn't that good when everyone knows sega lost so badly they left the console market entirely

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The launch time difference between regions for the console is not very big so its not a major factor
                Also the only time I see people crying about how Japan doesn’t count is when the switch is decimating the PS5 there

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >differently timed launches
                Same year dude

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And FFX wasn't in the launch window for the PS2 in Japan. No go ahead and pretend that their favorite FF game wasn't a big deal that moved systems.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That doesn’t even make sense you moron, FFX also came out later in NA as well. This is just embarrassing dude

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                FFX was already out in Japan and people knew it was coming in America by the time the PS2 launched. It was also closer to the NA region launch and inside of that same holiday window, and FFX wasn't as big of a deal for the American market.
                >This is just embarrassing dude
                I agree. You're a fricking moron, dude.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >FF10 wasn't a big deal

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >FFX came out in 2001
                >the PS2 came out in 2000
                yes you are the moron in this case

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It wasn’t for North America either…

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No clue what this goalpost shift even means

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >goalpost shift
                FFX was a system mover in Japan. It didn't come out when the PS2 came out, or even in the same release window or season. It's not very hard to follow unless you're stupid enough to try to undersell how big FFX was in Japan.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It didn’t come out in NA either, the difference between region launches wasn’t even a year

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing the DVD player was ready at launch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing a vast majority of the sales were nowhere near launch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not according to Sony themselves

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >SAAARRRR DO NOT REDEEM THE MATRIX DVD SAAARRR THE CONSOLE HOME COUNTRY DOES NOT MATTER SAAAAAAAR

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You've been screaming about poos for no reason all thread. Are you a paki or something?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Are you a paki
                Those are poos like (You) as well, Rajeesh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you're a Hispanic or a chink, got it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Both of those are subhuman like (You), rajeesh

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and people just bought $500 dvd players at the time
        Somebody tell Kaz that the PS3 didn't lose sony 6 billion dollars on its pricepoint

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not just a DVD player, but also one of the cheaper ones, those things were fricking expensive back in the day, the value the PS2 provided was insane.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but also one of the cheaper ones
        Which tendie youtuber started spreading this lie?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who knew the president of sony was a tendie all along

          >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in Japan
            We're talking about the market where more of the sales happened.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Didn’t you hear, insomniac leaks were because of tendies as well, they made fake data and leaked it to make sony look bad

            >in Japan
            We're talking about the market where more of the sales happened.

            Cope, already debunked

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >debunked
              Japan had more PS2 sales than America? Damn.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, but similarly sure, especially relative to populations

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but similarly sure
                Double is not similar.
                >relative to
                Now this is tendie grade cope.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Per capita Black folk commit more crimes, I’m sorry the word “relatively” hurts so much to hear but its the truth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Except we're talking about gross lifetime sales, you fricking moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Per capita is the most objective way to compare populations

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DVD players are expensive in 2000s, the first Fast and Furious movie was about mafias stealing Dvd players. With ps2 you have a cheap Dvd player with optional videogames

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    piracy
    cheap dvd
    third world
    sage

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers in the streaming world don't understand the power of a DVD player

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gamepube was a gay ass lunchbox with gay proprietary discs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mini-dvd
      >propietary
      Damn imagine being moronic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nintendo always uses proprietary formats for their physical media.
        The GameCube's miniDVDs weren't the same as other miniDVDs available in the market, just like the Wii didn't technically use DVDs and the Wii U didn't use blu-rays, despite both discs being based on those technologies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nintendo always used legally-distinct clones of established media to 1) dodge royalties and 2) monopolize its production. Think the only non-proprietary format they ever used were cassette tape backups for games like Excitebike

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moronic controller on the GC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's one of the best controllers I've ever used, though.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Third worlders, GTA, wiggers. The PS2 sucks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the best console of all time sucks, actually

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It may be the favela favorite but it sucks if you don't care about the worst version of multiplats or shovelware.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.

      It may be the favela favorite but it sucks if you don't care about the worst version of multiplats or shovelware.

      KEK. Coping homosexuals that are either too young or your mommy's wouldn't buy you a ps2
      moronic homosexual tastelets

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >moronic homosexual tastelets
        He said as a proud defender of the normalgroid favela monkey console.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but enough about the switch

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Brownoids in shithole countries white people don't even know the location of on a map are still playing shitty PS2 ports and emulators. When Icer Addis' SNESticle source code was uploaded a few years ago it was like Christmas for them since this guy's emulator made in 1998 ported to a console in the early 2000s was better than any favela monkey coding over the last two decades.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DVDs
    Clinging to the kiddie demographic despite them buying like one spongebob game a year
    The N64

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't get a killer app Zelda until the wii put the nail in its coffin. Nobody wanted the gay cartoon one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Didn't get a killer app Zelda until the wii put the nail in its coffin.
      Ganker vastly overrates the popularity of older Zelda games. It only started selling well with BOTW.
      All the games before it sold less than 10 million.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      On top of that it didn't have a Mario game at launch, it had Luigi's Mansion. Sunshine didn't come until much later and was super divisive.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It also was the only tendie console to not launch with a mario game. Took a year for sunshine to come out and even then it was the shittiest 3d mario (except MAYBE 3d land/world). Same thing with Zelda, wind waker is easily the second worst 3d zelda after skyward sword.

      >my shittendo toy lost because of [racism]
      amazing

      I’m conflicted about this. On one hand the PS2 is clearly the superior console, but on the other hand racism is based

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Gamecube looked like a fisher price toy, couldn't play DVDs because Nintendo used small discs to combat piracy (which didn't work) and Nintendo didn't have a massive line-up like Sony did. There's a reason Nintendo discontinued the Gamecube two months after Twilight Princess released.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    playstation was just better for a bit
    now nintendo is better
    sales tell the truth

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we were almost rid of nintendo if it weren't for wagglin'

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not really nintendo still made a profit on the gamecube.

      the closest Nintendo has been to being wiped out was the Wii U.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They still made a profit during that time except for 1 year btw

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was unironically dvds. I remember my family some years later complaining that I didn't get a ps2 instead so they could watch dvds.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The GameCube came a year too late and didn't have DVD playback functionality, which was a big deal back then. Then there's the fact that most third-parties didn't want to work with Nintendo for a variety of reasons, including being butthurt about Yamauchi and dickriding Sony. Not to mention that the PS2 inherited massive momentum from the PS1.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DVDs.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had both and it was frustrating trying to find shops that sold Gamecube games. Pretty much every shop in my EU country only had PS2 games.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone loves the Gamecube now, but most of the games were really divisive back in the day. Sunshine and Wind Waker were just not system sellers, with mixed opinions on them. Double Dash came way too late to change much of anything. Launching the system with only Luigi's Mansion and then Pikmin and Melee a month later just wasn't enough, and this was THE holiday of the PS2 getting GTA3, MGS2, SH2 and FFX. No one can compete with that, let alone Nintendo while they were struggling.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GTA3, MGS2, SH2 and FFX
      The dawn of movieshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        JRPGs on SNES started the movieshit trend

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          MGS2 is literally more cutscenes and codec calls than gameplay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            all skippable meanwhile, you can't skip anything in JRPGs. you can't even skip them in your Zelda/Pokemon slop

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why would someone skip the story in an MGS "game"? The gameplay is dogshit. The whole point is the moronic story.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                what? you have that mixed up, the story in MGS is fricking stupid but the gameplay is stellar (or it was until MGS peacewalker). MGS1 was simultaneously the first proper stealth game and immersive sim with subsequent games building on top of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >MGS1 was simultaneously the first proper stealth game and immersive sim
                Most moronic thing I've read all year.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                prove me wrong

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                First stealth game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fgok9eHqO8
                First immersive sim https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee4PUcpGSn8
                Nothing in MGS is immersive sim.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                keyword: proper

                >nothing in MGS is immersive sim
                there are more unique ways to progress in MGS1 than there are in system shock

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >there are more unique ways to progress in MGS1 than there are in system shock
                I know Kojima fans are all moronic but this is some next level shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                SS1 is pretty railroaded. Haven't played MGS so I can't comment on that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mgs2
            >VR missions
            >With directional microphone, several conversations and Easter eggs
            >Moai statues
            >Dog tags. Hideo Kojima's dog tag

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Everyone loves the Gamecube now
      I don't. I hated it and it was my only console growing up. I never bought another tendie home console until the switch. The PS2 and even the OG Xbox had much better libraries.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      GTA is the only thing Sony ever shat out and it was to the detriment of gaming everywhere. That’s the one game that was always exclusive. Garbage Black person console where you simulate robbing people

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Say that without crying

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh boohoo it's just a fricking video game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gamecube is really lacking of good games

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    dvd + the gc looking like a fisher price toy making it uncool among tweens

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo went to shit after the SNES, despite what tendies who grew up on the N64 will pretend. PS1 and PS2 is when Sony was actually making good consoles and games.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    N64 had no games and was super expansive, making Playstation explode. That momentum bled into the next gen and gamecube still had no fricking games and had shittier discs.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ps2 had backwards compatibility, pretty much unheard of until then

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cube is a shitty kids toy

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 dominated sports games and racing markets, which are the biggest system sellers for consoles.
    PS2 had three seperate GTA titles.
    PS2 had a DVD player built in when DVD players were still demanding large sums so it made sense to buy the PS2, same as when the PS3 came out for blurays.
    PS2 was easy to hack.
    PS2 had internet.
    PS2 had a much wider catalogue.
    I personally think the Gamecube had a better catalogue at the high end, with Metroid Prime, REmake, RE4 and so forth beating everything on the PS2.
    Gamecube just didn't have a distinct market since the N64 had destroyed the market the SNES had built and Playstation had absorbed most of it as well as snatched up Sega's slowly decaying remains.
    The Wii was a work of genius in terms of marketing. Gamecube, not so much.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh and the best backwards compatibility we've seen since it could play basically all PS1 titles and use the memory cards too.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it could play basically all PS1 titles and use the memory cards too.
        This fricking shit ruined my expectations going froward with new consoles. They perfected backwards competability then fricking threw it all in the trash

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as well as snatched up Sega's slowly decaying remains.
      Sega put out higher quality games on Gamecube and Xbox than PS2. PS2 mostly got shovelware ports (typical for the console).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Prime sucked and RE4 came to the PS2 with more content. REmake was good, but certainly not enough to beat out the entire fricking PS2 library.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >more content
        Not worth the tradeoffs. The "content" isn't even good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          All these years later and tendies coping this hard

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Coping with having the best version of the game twice? If you want the shitty "content" but with good graphics and sound the Wii version exists.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >"content"
              Putting that in quotes won't change the fact that Separate Ways is great. On what fricking planet is an additional campaign with a new character that fleshes out the story and fills in gaps not real content? You sound like a dumb tendie fanboy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Not worth the tradeoffs.
          It absolutely was. The jacket textures on the Bella sister in the PS2 screenshot in your image even look outright better. Separate Ways was a great addition to the game, and the light gun was insanely fun. Regardless, even if you prefer the slight graphical advantages over the extra content, it's absolutely moronic to pretend that makes RE4 a point in the GC's favor when the game is still on the PS2 with a bunch of new stuff added.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The jacket textures on the Bella sister in the PS2 screenshot in your image even look outright better
            The sheer delusion.
            >it's absolutely moronic to pretend that makes RE4 a point in the GC's favor when the game is still on the PS2 with a bunch of new stuff added.
            It's one shitty mode and one costume set that doesn't even show up in cutscenes since the PS2 uses FMVs from the Gamecube version. They had to downgrade every single aspect of RE4 to get it working on PS2, even the enemy count and AI.

            >"content"
            Putting that in quotes won't change the fact that Separate Ways is great. On what fricking planet is an additional campaign with a new character that fleshes out the story and fills in gaps not real content? You sound like a dumb tendie fanboy.

            Who has ever booted up RE4 to play Separate Ways?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >delusion
              You misspelled "vision".
              >It's one shitty mode
              Pure tendie asshurt.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can compare the textures directly and see that most of the color had to be removed on PS2.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This doesn't make the point you want to pretend it does.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are lower polycounts, less colors and low resolutions better when it's on a Sony console?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The difference is small, and not worth the extra content. And yes, it's good content. Less game is not a good thing, even if you screech like a demented tendie bat.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The difference is small
                Least delusional Sony fanboy.
                >Less game is not a good thing
                The PS2 version is less game, it has less enemies and weaker AI that just stops working occasionally.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The PS2 version is less game
                Actual mental illness, which I guess is par for the course for a tendie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll take better graphics, sound, loading times, cutscenes that aren't FMVs, controls, enemy AI and number of enemies over one shitty mode you'll play once and then never again. But that's just me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll take a substantial and objectively great gameplay mode addition, new weapon and new costumes over minor graphical improvements, but that's just because I like video games instead of defending a dogshit console.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I like video games, that's why I'm going to defend the worst version of RE4
                Just deranged.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for making me realize the PS2 has way nicer color to look at instead of the puke yellow that the GNC has

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sony fanboys have their reputation for a reason.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Who has ever booted up RE4 to play Separate Ways?
              Me. I've played it on normal mode on the PS2 version, the Wii version, and the PC version. You being a moronic tendie won't change the fact that it's a great game mode. You should try actually playing it sometime instead of being butthurt that the only great GC game came to the PS2 with more content.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nip here, why are westoids so obsessed with "Resident Evil"?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Nip here
                Why LARP?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It has realistic guns and zombies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                guns and zombies, americans are easily pleased by shit like that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cube had internet.
      I played pso1+2 on it.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know why but I couldn't take the gamecube seriously back then. And I don't want one now

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the gaycube and 64 are big steps down from the SNES. Nintendo has one of the greatest consoles ever, but they just can't replicate it.

    t. owned both and played the ps2 like 100x more.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gamecube looked like a toy and Nintendo promoted it with the color purple, which is not considered a masculine color. The controller also looked very colorful like a toy, and the handle gave the impression of a purse. There was no DVD playback and only two online games (which were in the same series). The overall impression most people got was that the Gamecube was a toy for children whereas Xbox and Playstation were serious consoles for adults, and Nintendo never escaped that.

    For reference I loved the Gamecube and it's one of my favorite consoles of all time. However, I do not kid myself about why it so dramatically underperformed compared to the PS2. Nintendo was building a reputation for being behind the curve when it came to tech and being a child-focused company since they took the blood out of Mortal Kombat and on the Gamecube they really leaned into that reputation rather than trying to fix it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah this was the Playstation's great contribution to gaming: selling games as as something that could handle mature themes. With better graphics and sound, devs were inspired to take on more mature themes and stories, and the Playstation became the vehicle for that. PS2 was a hub of a huge burst in creativity in gaming. I respect Nintendo's conservative ethos holding on to their roots and core gaming ideals, but in the early 00s there was this perception that games could go anywhere / do anything, and the PS2 helped bring that dream alive for people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah this was the Playstation's great contribution to gaming: selling games as as something that could handle mature themes. With better graphics and sound, devs were inspired to take on more mature themes and stories, and the Playstation became the vehicle for that. PS2 was a hub of a huge burst in creativity in gaming. I respect Nintendo's conservative ethos holding on to their roots and core gaming ideals, but in the early 00s there was this perception that games could go anywhere / do anything, and the PS2 helped bring that dream alive for people.

      Sure, this is what actually happened but it's also what left us with the baggage of "mature gaming" being so closely associated with cinematics. Mature, adult-focused games already existed on PC and they started migrating to the mainstream with Xbox bridging the gap between PC and console. And all games with that legacy are strategy, shooters, and RPGs. Games that actually take advantage of the medium's interactive nature.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        At the time "mature gaming" seemed to push the medium forward. It wasn't until the late ps3 days that "mature games" equated to cinematic walking sims.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Nintendo promoted
      Nintendo of Japan, more specifically.
      The decisions to redesign the Famicom and Super Famicom for the western market were very deliberate. Wonder what happened between NoJ and NoA with the N64's development.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    2000: PS2 out, no GameCube or Xbox to compete, PS2 has full PS1 backwards compatibility AND plays newfangled DVDs so it's at least not a paperweight while waiting for games, coming off the mega-hit PS1
    2001: A ton of incredible innovative genre-defining games come out before GameCube and Xbox finally release later in the year, new Zelda game is revealed but it looks like it's for babies in a time when mature edgy gaming is in
    2002: PS2 at this point has a stacked library while Xbox and GameCube are only just starting to build theirs; GameCube does not play DVDs or CDs unlike the competition, and continues to look kiddy compared to PS2 and Xbox
    By this point the momentum continued in its natural direction. Plus, GameCube had somewhat low third party support because it used mini DVDs, which contributed to lower install base, which further disincentivized third-party developers in a loop.
    By 2004, most of the GameCube's big games were out already while PS2 continued to get heavy hitters and Xbox further pushed online gaming on consoles. The only notable GameCube games I can think of from 2005 and 2006 are RE4 (which ended up being ported to PS2 anyway) and Zelda: Twilight Princess (which came out first on Wii, and everybody bought that version)

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tendies blaming the third world that their toddler toy with no games lost
    lmfao never change, tendies

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It was first.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ps2 usually had the worst version of any multiplat
    But it played dvds and had absolute bangers for their first party lineup

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playstation was already established brand at this point
    >gaming was no longer stigmatized
    >Sold first and doubled as a DVD player initially which helped it get the the footing
    >released decent games throughout it’s actual life time
    >PS3 being a complete frickup meant sony had to manufacture PS2s and sell them to 3rd worlders for a decade

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >parent company had more money to spend on marketing
    >more appeal in places like Europe and South America, Nintendo traditionally saw both those regions as afterthoughts compared to Japan and the US
    >way more third-party support on top of its decent first-party lineup
    >was the only console in its gen that had a built-in DVD player by default(Dreamcast didn't have one, the only GameCube model with a DVD player was made by a third party and was exclusive to Japan, you needed an addon to watch DVD movies on the Xbox)
    >the PS3 being an overpriced nogames piece of shit when it first came out and the Wii being hilariously underpowered meant it got a second life as a Wii/PSP port machine
    >Brazilians continued to buy FIFA/PES games for it well into the early 2010s
    Did I miss anything?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a certain hilarious irony in that there was a time in which a Sony console was the system with "gamez" and Nintendo was "nogamez:

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even back then Sony "games" were movies.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i don't think you understand what a moviegame is, acgay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the game with 5 hours of cutscenes and 2 hour of gameplay is not a moviegame

          [...]

          >movies and shovelware
          Yep, it's a PS2 library list.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >>the game with 5 hours of cutscenes and 2 hour of gameplay is not a moviegame
            Not that anon, but a moviegame is specifically a game where the main gameplay is more cinematic than fun. Literally any Uncharted/Last of Us/God of War etc

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Another irony I don't see anyone mention
      1995 - Sony fricking slays at the first E3 by giving a single-word speech on the PS1: "$299."
      2006 - Sony fumbles immensely at E3, sealing the PS3's doomed early years with one particularly ill-fated sound bite: "Five hundred and ninety-nine US dollars"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ps3, as shitty as it was at the start, still ended up better than 4/5

        I miss Kaz/Kutaragi so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bizarre that there was a time where Sony was the undisputed king of the gayman industry.
      Like hell, even their PSP mogged the living shit out of the DS in terms of specs and quality.
      Then their hubris got the better of them, and they fumbled it all away starting with the PS3 and again with the Vita.
      Tragic really.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The final nail in the coffin was the move to San Mateo

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it is almost like whenever a company is not leading the market they actually need to try and take risks while the one leading usually sits back and let itself been taken over by competition eventually

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's not funny, America ruined playstation. Good on nintendo for recovering though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nintendo always had games, it just depends if their exclusives were any good or not, those said exclusives are lowering in quality every generation since GC. They have to resort to remaking things like sony now top kek.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cube had games though, games that are still wildly praised to this day
      Even the N64, the worst time in nintendo history had games
      They've never reached a modern playstation state of having 1 game across multiple generations

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GameCube shape is so stupid that you need to build the room around it. Ps2 can stay everywhere, it's elegant and doesn't scream I have a son or I'm a manchild

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I liked how game cube looked like a cube though...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cute, absolutely cute

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 was superior and the gamecube was overrated trash liked by trannies

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Released a year earlier
    >Could play DVDs
    How is this even a question

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the gamecube was fricking dogshit. If you owned one as a kid you were probably bullied in middle school

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DVDs cope bros, we lost!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xbox was released way after the PS2, it was more expensive and the DVD remote was a separate purchase, it couldn't compete from a dvd player perspective. It had still more sovl though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude the Xbox was sad man, like a stray dog, Microsoft did not give a single shit about the consoles after only a few years.
        Sega had an excuse with the Dreamcast, they were broke, Microsoft were just soulless corpos,even more than Sony.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would you even need a numpad if the remote was only for playing DVDs anyway?

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GameCube was a cool console but Sony REDEFINED cool with the PlayStation 2™.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GameCube was a cool console
      No it wasn't. It was considered anticool as frick

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >IT'S BECAUSE OF THE 3RD WORLD
    >NO NO IT'S BECAUSE OF THE DVD PLAYER
    >I SWEAR THE GAMECUBE HAD TRILLIONS OF BETTER GAMES AND FEATURES SUCH AS UHH
    >OMG NOOOO BLAME THE BRAZILIANS FOR KILLING THE GAMECUBE, WHITE SISTERS!!!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2002
      PS2 came out in 2000, not to mention that the relative price of getting a console+DVD player together made it cheaper. This isn’t the out you think it is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >random anecdotes will trump actual reality
      It was because of the DVD player no matter how much you cope. Not to mention the PS2 sold 50 million after the PS3 came out because of the 3rd world

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >actual reality is what tendies tell themselves
        >the real prices of DVD players at the time is not actual reality

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a single forum post by a literal who is reality

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >tendies making up shit about how much DVD players used to cost in the early 2000s is reality

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >2002
        PS2 came out in 2000, not to mention that the relative price of getting a console+DVD player together made it cheaper. This isn’t the out you think it is

        It being DVD player was definitely a strong argument for PS2 in our family. We didn't even play MGS or GTA back in the day.

        post actual proof that people bought it for DVD and not for its great library

        movie watchers who don't game wouldn't care about buying a game console

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >movie watchers who don't game wouldn't care about buying a game console
          Families wanting to save money by getting a DVD player and a console would however

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >still no source
            keep coping

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sony had no incentive to add a DVD player for free if they weren’t planning to bank on it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >still no source
                keep dilating

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Saving this for the next cope and seethe threads from nintendo/sega/microsoft.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bought it all

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Residual momentum from the PS1 stomping the N64. Also, DVD player.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I think it was honestly the N64. The gamecube was seen as another N64 and the N64 had a really really weak library that probably turned off a lot of people.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GCN's best game was basically a tech demo
    N took the L when they didn't produce any good first party games aside from Luigi's Mansion
    frick Smash Goyos

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >frick Smash Goyos
      Cry more, Eric, you contrarian little pig.
      Melee will always be the best-selling GameCube game.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You know what I find weird in retrospect? I was one of the only kids around who had a PS1. Everywhere I'd go, friends, cousins, all had an N64, as a kid/early teen. But then that flipped, nobody had a GameCube. A Billy Hatcher conversation was a non-starter. It's just weird to me how that flipped so quickly. I used my PS2 more because it was the 00s and I wanted to play Warrior Within instead of Mario Sunshine, but it was still a nice little system.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Me on the right

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DVD player had games

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo was/is seen as the baby console. That's why, as much as you want a big boy Nintendo console on par with current gen consoles, it'd sell like ass.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PS2 launch price: $300. Had DVD
    >Xbox launch price: $300. Had DVD
    >yet there was a huge gap in sales
    tendies who only post porn threads and do M64 speed runs will keep insist that PS2 only sold because of DVD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xbox required you to spend more money to get DVD, PS2 came out before XBox, and Playstation was already an established brand

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Xbox required a dongle for DVD and never dropped in price like the PS2 did.

        Xbox dvd remote controller addon was cheaper than a ps2 memory card.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Flash memory was expensive in the early 2000s. Sony's proprietary Magic Gate technology probably added to the cost in some way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Xbox required a dongle for DVD and never dropped in price like the PS2 did.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Xbox required you to spend more money to get DVD, PS2 came out before XBox, and Playstation was already an established brand

        >haha PS2 sold more because of the 3rd world XDD
        so didn't the rich 1st world buy the Xbox and NoGameCube?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No we say that because the PS2 only sold 100 million once the PS3 came out, meaning it went to bargain bin after that

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            PS3 had no games in its first year while PS2 kept having new games in late 00s

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Resistance was pretty cool.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sony is moronic but they aren’t moronic enough to completely undermine the current console theyre selling just to sell millions more of the previous gen.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT Nintendorks can't accept ps2 is simply better

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dvd player let kids convince parents get it

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT PS2roons can't accept ps2 is simply a DVD Player

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >My Smash Smelee machine is better i s-sswear you can bing bing wahoo
    >RE4 flopped
    >RE Remake flopped
    >RE Zero flopped
    >Star Fox flopped
    kek even without DVD, tendies don't play video games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None of those games flopped tho

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        REmake and Zero selling like shit on Gamecube is why RE4 turned out to be an action game because you stupid shitters don't actually care about video game but porn.

        RE4 also sold like shit on GC which is why Capcom canceled the exclusive contract and ported it to PS2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >RE4 also sold like shit on GC which is why Capcom canceled the exclusive contract and ported it to PS2
          The PS2 port was announced before RE4 was even out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            holy shit you tendies lie so much it's unreal

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, and further down the line the PS2 version was announced before the GC version even came out

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.ign.com/articles/2004/11/01/resident-evil-4-returns-to-ps2
                Why do zoomers suck so bad at basic research?

                >sales of REmake was so bad they had to cancel exclusivity
                lol buy games instead of spamming pedo porn next time

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nice goalpost moving, Black person

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://www.ign.com/articles/2004/11/01/resident-evil-4-returns-to-ps2
              Why do zoomers suck so bad at basic research?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Star Fox is kinda 50/50, Adventures was actually a million seller and received alright reviews at the time but Assault was by far the least critically and commercially successful SF title released at the time, the first one to not sell over a million and thus arguably the first game that made the series' decline really apparent.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny that Switch sold more than this gap now.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 won because:
    >DVD player
    >GTA III, FFX and sportslop
    >had an ocean of fricking games starting in 2001
    >did not shit the bed in any conceivable way beyond a slightly botched initial shipment

    GCN lost because:
    >had still pissed off third-parties who saw the green pasture that was Sony
    >moronic decision to use mini-discs because of piracy autism and being cheap fricks
    >could not shake off their kiddy image to an audience now made up of edgy teens and young adults
    >the good shit (AC, SMS, WW, Metroid Prime) came too late; Melee was only going to do but so much
    >GTAIII was just that fricking big of a deal

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >SMS
      >good

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Being a contrarian homosexual isn't doing you any favors.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's shit, even people who like the game will admit it's really flawed.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    PlayHasNoLimits

    Nintendo sucks and people finally caught on. Ps2 was so much more powerful than shamecube, it was pretty much an entire generation ahead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eric, don’t you have another Famitsu thread to cry in?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      frick off, homosexual

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad the switch is going to outsell the PS2’s 155 million

      • 2 weeks ago
        PlayHasNoLimits

        Shitch has barely SOLD (not shipped) 55 million, and ps2 was confirmed for 160 million

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and ps2 was confirmed for 160 million
          Tendiegays still seethe over this.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Shitch has barely SOLD (not shipped) 55 million
          Proof? That would be fraud if that were true
          >and ps2 was confirmed for 160 million
          Nope, 155 according to sony, 160 according to a fired employee

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eric got a new trip
          >its referencing the pedophile sony exec
          not a good look

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PS2: best games, able to play ps1 games.
    >GC: "Wahoo yipeee, waaa... another femboy lover mentality enabler sequel, aka Link" games.

    Easy win for sony

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >best games
      GTA... Fifa... shovelware... the list goes on

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PS2
        vs...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The shovelware motherlode.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you think, unironically, that this is shovelware, it's time to find a new hobby, buddy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ...
          GC

          It's sad.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >super monkey ball 1 & 2
            >multiplat
            Deluxe is shit and not the same game as either.

            If you think, unironically, that this is shovelware, it's time to find a new hobby, buddy.

            It's shovelware.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ...
          GC

          It's sad.

          Now, thanks to emulation. You no longer have to choose.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    literally no one except weird homosexuals who we bullied had gamecube. everyone had ps2 save for few gigachads who got xbox. nintentards are delusional and coping.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They added a DVD player, why do you think they compare themselves to instantpot?

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo was the Sony of the 90s, they forced a lot of shit on 3rd parties, like moron shit on them.
    N64 hurt them a lot
    GC they managed to recover some of 3rd party trust, but it was still simply not enough

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I find the "DVD player" cope to be quite funny.
    PS2 sold well because it had great games that's it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It had the ultimate goyslop (GTA and Fifa). Nobody has ever cared about Sony first party trash. You can still find Sony published games for dirt cheap on the second hand market.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It had the ultimate goyslop
        You keep telling yourself that Tendiesister.
        160M for a reason.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          155 million with 2/3 from FIFA streetshitters

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >160M for a reason
          Because it had the slop and kept selling in the turd world when actual humans had moved on.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, that guy is right. Just look at anywhere online where people are selling their PS2 together with their games. A fricking lot of them come with at least one FIFA game.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what im more curious about is what happened internally at sony between the ps2 and ps3. they made two fantastic consoles and then complete shit for the last 20 years.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In reality sony sold 149.5mil PS2s, sony can't back up that fake 155mil number.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sony can't back up that fake 155mil number.
      Oy vey you mean 160. I can't believe someone would deny the 170 million.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sony dumps all their extra stock onto india and the rest of the third world for pennies to get to 149 million
      >DS starts to mog it
      >suddenly another 5 million "sales" appear from no where
      >switch, without a single price cut is about to outsell the PS2
      >fired snoy starts trying to claim it magically sold another 5 million between 2012 and 2024

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Boomer here. A wagie at bestbuy in 2002 (back then)
    The sales manager always told me to emphasize the fact that the PS2 has dvd playback capability.
    The problem is that whenever I said “the Sony playstation 2 system also plays dvds'', the customer always replied "we already have a DVD player at home”.
    crazy wagie days

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 had games

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the ps2 had a dvd player and every single multiplat title imaginable
    the gamecube did not have a dvd player and very few multiplat titles compared to the ps2.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Super smash brothers melee was good enough to carry gamecube on it's own. Sunshine was good, Zelda was good too. Metroid Prime was really good. Gamecube has some solid titles.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah the thing with the cube you didnt have to skip over much, almost every title is solid. Don't have to seep through a bunch of shovelware to get what you want. But normalgays are what push consoles, sadly.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >PS2
    -greatest library in the history of gaming
    -strong first and third party support, exclusive and multiplat
    -DVD player
    -proper media format with DVD discs

    >GC
    -lousy library
    -half good first party support with some series having fantastic entries (e.g. metroid prime/animal crossing) but also fricking up major series (mario sunshine/wind waker). Poor third party support
    -absolutely moronic proprietary media that had less than half the content of ps2 DVDs, Yamauchi didn't learn his lesson after the n64

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >greatest library in the history of gaming
      People who say this have literally no taste. Actual NPCs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cry more moron

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Proving my point. Sony fans never talk about their favorite games on PS2 and their history with them. Mainly because it would be just GTA and Fifa. Nobody played the shovelware in these images.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            a simple search of GC and PS2's top selling games proves you wrong, next post

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are so incredibly moronic and so obviously underage nobody is going to waste time trying to prove reality to you. Frick off back to your “PS5=NO GAEMS” posting.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              PS5 literally has no games.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ps5 has no games THOUGH, I'm a ps2gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          KEKcubebros...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            someone actually posted it ITT kek it's pathetic. Litearlly just a metroid prime 1/2 machine

            ...
            GC

            It's sad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do you have a version not for ants?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, PS2's library of quality games is so vast it exceeds Ganker's image size limits. Just look up the wiki https://vsrecommendedgames.fandom.com/wiki/PlayStation_2

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You can post images up to 4mb.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm aware

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then why did you post a <1mb image?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the normal sized image I had was too big so I had to downsize it, can't be assed to get exact 4mb

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The PS2 even had Mark of the wolves and it ran just as well as the arcade version plus it had netplay that's fricking crazy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what's the game between tenchu and mgs3

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            shinobido

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              thanks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As opposed to what? The gaycube? Lmao

        PS2's library is only rivaled by SNES

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PS2 had a good library, but like the PS1 and Wii, it was THE platform of choice for the absolute worst shovelware ever pressed to a disk
        you could cut the PS2's library in half and it would only improve it
        shame the PS3/4/5 have had 1 game

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm glad we all agree the original Xbox was the best console that generation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lmao no, sega porting its games over is what made that thing worthy of purchase that gen. You have a better case for the 360. But I hate all xcucks on principle, you and sony casuals made things possible for the phonegays to ruin even further.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If don't think the PS2 library is good, you legitmately don't like games.
    This is not an argument, I will not respond to your shitpost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should try actually playing some of the pure slop in PS2 collection images.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this is pure slop according to ps5Black folk
        Frick off already

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this whole image is better than the entire cube library top lel

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This single subset is literally better than any following console's entire library, except PC I guess but that is cheating

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >vand

            newbie

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No tendie, I'm here way before you, now kys you subhuman trash

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You ever play Zone of the Enders? I've never seen a game comprised entirely of filler until that game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I bought it for the MGS2 demo that came with it, but ZOE was absolute ludo

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >but ZOE was absolute ludo
              Zero standards.

              more soul than any tendie game

              >walking sim = soul
              Yep it's a Sony thread.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >puzzle game = walking sim
                mindbroken GCuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ico is the definition of a pretentious walking sim. It would be completely ignored today as just another indie game with no gameplay.

                You have bad taste in video games, and as such, your opinions are worthless

                Said the walking sim fan.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You have bad taste in video games, and as such, your opinions are worthless

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ZOE is bad
                yep its a snoy posting

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't even tell what games those are

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            of course, tendies like you don't know anything outside their bingbingwahoo boxes

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you need to be at least 18 to post on this site

              Just post a normal sized image summer tourist

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you need to be at least 18 to post on this site

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            snoys are too stupid to even make images, its why they stick to soijaks all the time

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why did it happen?
    What's happening now, one movies and the other plays games.

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this board is so stupid, jesus fricking christ, how old are you all, 12?

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >sony fans consider this a masterpiece

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      more soul than any tendie game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's crazy how they made literally 55 final fantasy clones for the snoystation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how else should this have been done? smaller ladder and smaller structure so totally missing the point?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >how else should this have been done?
        They should have made an actual game instead of a walking sim.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tekken 4 was the most stylish one, the music, sound and art design were top notch.
    Doubt any media will ever wow me with a tech leap as much as the PS2 did, I'm glad to have lived through it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was absolutely blown away by the graphics of the launch titles alone tbh

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like how the only argument snoys have is that people (for some reason?) Bought their nogamez console to watch Men in Black 2.

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had both :3

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hey cutie, you can be my bf

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gamecube was lame, ps2 had gta. delusional nintendo fanboys will tell you about the dvd, which is ridiculous if you were there at the time
    /thread

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >morons clueless zoomers and fanboys still mentioning DVDs when this already been debunked by inumerous posts
    2 decades later and ps2 still causing so much seething. unbeliavable.
    It's like telling an entitled kid that he is not an adult. nearly impossible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >snoy seething desperately trying to deny reality

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >projecting like an entitled child does.
        My analogy is perfect.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, snoys are permanently 13 year olds mentally, its probably why they worship a plastic box so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You haven’t debunked it tho

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DVD players cost 100$ in 2000 you stupid Black folk

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Crazy how in middle Ohio I remember convincing my dad at a best buy to buy a ps2 because they were put right next to DVD players and for 50$ more you got a fricking game console.

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nuh uh tendies the ps2 didn't sell because of a useful and widely used feature
    I don't get it, why would you try to deny a major selling point of a console? I've seen a ton of no vidya people get into vidya because of the PS2s ability to play dvds.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sonygays just get triggered when you point out facts that a hybrid game console/DVD player lost to a pure game console until sony pulled 6 million "sales" out of their ass, and is going to lose again to another pure game console

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So we've gone from "The PS2 was the cheapest DVD player and people bought it for that" to "Being a DVD player was a selling point"?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Only 1 out of the 200 people in this thread who called it a DVD player said it was the cheapest

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >okay it wasn't the cheapest or the best or the first
          >but no one had a DVD player than and everyone bought it as a "hybrid" even though kids regularly got consoles from their parents and the PS2 had the best and most popular games
          Okay.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who are you quoting? When did I say that?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So what are you saying, specifically?

              Both of those points are true. I know the DVD player was a major reason why my cousins were able to get one at launch so their mom could rent the new DVD's coming out and the kids would get a brand new console. I don't get why you're so intent on denying it's influence. It was a major selling point for a ton of families, even after cheaper dvd players came out it was still the better option because of the massive backlog of cheap vidya.

              >Both of those points are true
              But they're not. Read the thread. It was never close to being the cheapest.
              >Well I know
              That doesn't matter. Your limited experience doesn't change reality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said that if being a DVD player helped it sell as well as it did, as it highly increases the value and appeal to families. I never said it was the cheapest

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >as it highly increases the value and appeal to families
                Not really. DVD players were commonplace by then and you could get cheaper ones at the time. No one wanted to buy one single PS2 for the living room and then fight over who used it for games or watching movies.

                This is embarrassing anon, if you're gonna shitpost about the ps2 at least understand it's history first. Denying the dvd playing is a weird angle to take, it moved consoles.

                >This is embarrassing anon
                I agree. Tendies making up lies about price and then backpedaling every time they're called out because they were too young to remember the early 2000s is really pathetic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the snoy is still going moving the goalposts farther and farther out and making up more and more things no one said

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and making up more and more things no one said
                Where?

                Yes really, the value of getting both DVD player and a console can’t be understated, most families aim to save money when they can and getting value like that is unprecedented

                >Yes really, the value of getting both DVD player and a console can’t be understated
                You're rationalizing. The fact is it was just the best console. A fringe benefit doesn't make it a system seller despite you trying to rewrite history.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fringe benefit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, I forgot third worlders and kids too young to remember the early 2000s don't know what many English words mean.

                Are you a zoomer who likes to make shit up or what? I lived through that era and I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players. DVD players cost a fortune when they first hit the market.

                >Are you a zoomer who likes to make shit up or what? I lived through that era
                Yes, and like every moronic tendie insisting it was being a DVD player that made it sell so well, you don't actually remember how much things used to cost or what families used to buy.
                > I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players
                And you're objectively wrong, you fricking idiot. It's been posted in this thread multiple times. There were $200 DVD players by 1999. There's no argument to be had here, you're trying to insist that your childhood memories overwrite reality.
                >DVD players cost a fortune when they first hit the market.
                DVD players didn't first hit the market in 2000, you idiot child.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Are you a zoomer
                >yes
                poojeet, you could have said this 4 hours ago and saved everyone the trouble of you're 300 post meltdown

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The "yes" wasn't an answer to the first part of the question. I was a teen when the PS2 came out which is why I know that the "cheap DVD player" cope is a load of shit. Learn to read and parse English.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rahjeesh seethes more and more because he didn't live through the PS2's launch so he has to larp as an oldgay to defend the fact it was a hybrid console

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >to defend the fact it was a hybrid console
                But no one's talking about the Switch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, we are talking about the original hybrid console, the PS2. Good job keeping up with the posts, rajeesh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you’re rationalizing
                No, the OP of the thread asked why and I gave the answer, now people are melting down because the answer is given

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fringe benefit
                More like massive benefit

                Friendly reminder only poorgays didn't have multiple DVD players in the house before the PS2 came out

                So 95% of families in the US

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >t. poorgay turd worlder

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meant for

                Sorry, I forgot third worlders and kids too young to remember the early 2000s don't know what many English words mean.

                [...]
                >Are you a zoomer who likes to make shit up or what? I lived through that era
                Yes, and like every moronic tendie insisting it was being a DVD player that made it sell so well, you don't actually remember how much things used to cost or what families used to buy.
                > I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players
                And you're objectively wrong, you fricking idiot. It's been posted in this thread multiple times. There were $200 DVD players by 1999. There's no argument to be had here, you're trying to insist that your childhood memories overwrite reality.
                >DVD players cost a fortune when they first hit the market.
                DVD players didn't first hit the market in 2000, you idiot child.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes really, the value of getting both DVD player and a console can’t be understated, most families aim to save money when they can and getting value like that is unprecedented

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >family wants a DVD player
                >kids want the new console
                >trying to pretend that most families wouldn't get the device that plays DVDs and the new video games because its cheaper and takes up less space

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is embarrassing anon, if you're gonna shitpost about the ps2 at least understand it's history first. Denying the dvd playing is a weird angle to take, it moved consoles.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >gone to
        it being a DVD has AWLAYS been a selling point, just like the PS1 being able to play CDs was one of its selling points originally until it took off

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Both of those points are true. I know the DVD player was a major reason why my cousins were able to get one at launch so their mom could rent the new DVD's coming out and the kids would get a brand new console. I don't get why you're so intent on denying it's influence. It was a major selling point for a ton of families, even after cheaper dvd players came out it was still the better option because of the massive backlog of cheap vidya.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm a total charcoal briquette sub saharan spear chucking Sony gay and having a DVD player in my bedroom was a big part of getting a PS2. Prior to that I only had a portable DVD player to watch movies in my room.
      t. 1995 zillenial

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gamecube has no games

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's funny how all the Black folk say that ps2 had the best exclusives when it was all gay racing and sports games for NPCs

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People were still riding on the wave after Nintendo started slowly killing their goodwill with draconian guidelines they wanted other companies to follow, focus on gimmicks, and dropping out of the power race so they could have multiplatform games
    even so, Nintendo still made more money though the GameCube than Sony did through the PS2.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder only poorgays didn't have multiple DVD players in the house before the PS2 came out

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i love piracy

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like 10 times the games and lots of people were still buying and playing PS1 games for the PS2.

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >people still believing the "it was the cheapest DVD player" thing
    I can only assume that the average moron on this board had goylem parents who didn't understand how to shop around. By the time the PS2 was out we already had a DVD player that we bought for way cheaper than the PS2 we eventually got.
    Anyway the PS2 had and still has the greatest library of all time, despite the massive amount of shovelware. Was the same thing with the DS and now the Switch, you put enough shit on it and it won't matter that most of them suck dick, it'll still have loads of gems.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Literally one person in this thread said it was the “cheapest” DVD player, stop making shit up

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There are literally still morons trying to argue it right now. See

        Are you a zoomer who likes to make shit up or what? I lived through that era and I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players. DVD players cost a fortune when they first hit the market.

        >I lived through that era and I distinctly remember the price of a PS2 being very low compared to DVD players

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, they’re arguing that the value of the DVD player was what made it sell so well, not that it was the cheapest. Are you actually a pajeet that read English?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are you actually a pajeet that read English?
            I don't even need to point to the fact that you're unable to read what he wrote correctly. You can't even write a simple sentence in English without fricking it up. Tendies are a joke.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >hah you made a typo
              >so please ignore the fact that I lack basic reading comprehension saar

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >in Japan

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you moronic? Japan is literally the 2nd biggest console market

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The American and European sales dwarfed the Japanese sales. Most Japanese sales also didn't happen around launch. You have no point, just desperation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in Japan

                holy cope

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he needs to combine 50 different EU countries with a population of a billion to be barely above Japan

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >barely above
                >double
                It's amazing how little tendies understand numbers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yeah youre right about that part, regardless you are still counting 50 EU countries with a population over a billion to try and pretend Japan isnt the 2nd biggest market. Not to mention that you still haven’t disproven

                >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >to try and pretend Japan isnt the 2nd biggest market
                "Market" doesn't mean "country" you fricking idiot. Europe is considered a market.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm now curious if Max Payne sold well in Japan or not, with that Matrix stat.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Kek, snoys whole narrative getting destroyed by sony themselves

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >report they released a few months ago shows the PS5 is floundering badly and selling worse than the PS4
              >leaked internal documents show that digital games are only about 30% of sales, not the 70% they like to claim
              >official reports years ago lock the PS2's sales to 155 million instead of the pure copium that is the new 160 million claim
              many such cases

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's decades old GChud cope they'll keep repeating despite being proven wrong time and time again, they have nothing to go against the GODstation 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh yeah and backwards compatability with an already massively succesful console, forgot to mention that.

      Literally one person in this thread said it was the “cheapest” DVD player, stop making shit up

      One person too many, stop shifting goalposts you smelly smash Black person.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro it was LITERALLY the entire entertainment center of a household. There's no other time in history a console had that advantage.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    97' european zoomer here
    I wanted a PS2 because all the cool kids had it, I didn't even know it had a DVD player it.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's simple:
    PS2 had momentum from PS1. All 3rd parties were on board from day 1 to continue the success they found on PS1.
    By the time GameCube released 18 months later PS2 already had large user base and large number of exclusives which created a virtuous cycle: games kept releasing for PS2 which meant hardware sales grew which meant better software sales and more games released

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So basically what I get from this thread is that Gamecubed flopped everywhere but America?(USA)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      close its more like snoys are easily triggered by facts like "a device will sell extra for having a desirable feature"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably, i only saw one Gamecube in my entire life

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GameCube controller was an abomination

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have barely played the Gamecube except a couple of games
      The controller is really good.
      The PS2 controller on pictures yes on a png is really good
      Shame its shit build quality HUGE DOWNGRADE from the Dualshock 1 which MOGS the gamecube controller.
      Dualshock 2 and 3 are CHEAP, cheap cheap

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >had no sex or violence pandering during the peak era of sex and violence pandering
    >had no DVD player during the peak era of DVD players
    Everyone saw this and then you add
    >launched two years late with gimmicky disc
    Failed from the start

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 was the best console ever made, and i owned all of them up until 7th(? whatever the frick ps4 and beyond is) gen
    tons of great games, great controller vs. some great games, shitfrickass controller

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same thing will happen with PS5 and Switch 2. Nintendo's formula is stale

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What were the best "erotic" games on ps2?

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 was successful because of its DVD gimmick

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS2 had possibly the best vidya commercials of all time. I like to think that played a big part in its success

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This,love the just kys commercial lol

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GameCube has such a better controller my god

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actual moronation.

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one who was actually around during those times believes you, the dvd playing was a major selling point and was always a consideration for tons of people. Denying it's place in the PS2s history makes no sense, especially when it only helps your narrative in it being the best console ever made. Absolute subhuman behaviour

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No one who was actually around during those times believes you
      Funny that this thread has shown the angry tendies who "totally remember the early 2000s" had absolutely no fricking idea how much a DVD player back then actually cost.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not really.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes really. Acting aloof won't change reality. The PS2 was never a cheap DVD player, but tendies keep insisting it was in thread very thread because they remember it that way.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >NO ONONONONNONOONNOON NO ONE CARED ABOUT THE DVD PLAYER
            see

            >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

            and weep, snoy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The PS2 was never a cheap DVD player
            Correct it was a free DVD player. Even better.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No third party besides a few.

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Originally, because Nintendo snubbed Sony when making a disc-based console in favor of Phillips which lead Sony to create the Playstation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >still trying to push this lie
      how long are snoys going to try pretend it wasn't because sony was trying to steal IPs from nintendo?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nintendo was objectively the butthole in that deal and only the Droniest of NDrones could see it any other way.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >if you don't let this gigacorp steal your creations you're an butthole!!!!
          moronic snoy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >makes a movie deal with the fricking Minions guys

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >randomly crying about something else
              heres the thing snyggers like you refuse to understand, the minion guys didn't try to hijack and steal all the rights for mario away from nintendo
              thats why nintendo told sony to frick off

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they weren't. Sony was and Sony, Sega, and Nintendo executives all corroborate this. Sony was trying to gain full control of IPs and that's why Nintendo and Sega both told them to frick off.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nice world you're living in, I bet the sky is red there.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Nice world you're living in
              It really is

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It had better games.
    t. Only had GameCube.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >nearly 500 replies of personal attacks, projection, buzzwords, moronation and delusion
    I wonder how many Sega and Nintendo fanboys ended their lives due so much humiliation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying segautists don't constantly ape sony's success

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They suck Microsoft dick calling it the Dreamcast 2

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >open a gaming magazine
    >every cool upcoming game has PS2 release to it but no GCN
    >buy twin snakes
    >all the sequels are on PS2
    thats how I ended up selling my gamecube for a ps2.

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hate tendies 😀

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >console warring over old consoles in the year 2000 + 24

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      snoys can't exactly win in modern console warring so they have to run back to the last time sony was good

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >still denying a feature that only makes the ps2 look better
    For what reason

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's only because it was a cheap DVD player!
      >I mean it's only because it had a DVD player!
      >It had nothing to do with the games and the fact that Nintendo shit the bed with third parties!
      Do you think you're sly trying to frame a non-game related feature as a good thing to undermine the absolutely insanely good library the PS2 had?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's only because it was a cheap DVD player!
        Majority of people never said this in the thread, you keep repeating it for some odd reason

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No? What the frick are even saying? No one was denying the library of the PS2, and literally one guy called the PS2 the cheapest DVD player. If you want a better description the PS2 was the best value DVD player on the market.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >No one was denying the library of the PS2
          There are people doing it in this thread.
          >and literally one guy called the PS2 the cheapest DVD player
          >one guy
          More than that did it in this thread. Why fricking lie?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >More than that did it in this thread. Why fricking lie?
            Where, literally only one guy in the thread has been arguing with for that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Where

              piracy
              cheap dvd
              third world
              sage

              >cheap dvd

              this, my brother wanted a dvd player for his birthday and then realized a ps2 was literally cheaper and could play games. so we ended up with two ps2s

              >ps2 was literally cheaper

              Sounds to me like you are the one that wasn't around back then. It was the cheapest DVD player on the market and most people I know that had one got it SPECIFICALLY because it did both

              >It was the cheapest DVD player

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, I’m sorry, it was 3 people, my mistake

                >DVD players were $100 by the year 2000
                >this means that the PS2 priced at $300 was a cheap DVD player
                I know third worlders have trouble reading English, but can you not understand numbers either?

                >DVD players were $100 by the year 2000
                They weren’t, and thats not the point people were making, they are talking about the value of combining it

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They weren’t
                Yes they were, you mentally ill lying homosexual.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They weren’t, keep coping you seething pajeet Black person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.cnet.com/culture/dvd-players-no-longer-go-it-alone/
                You could find DVD players for less than $100. The fricking average price (that's including all the 5 and $600 models) wasn't even over $200.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >2002
                Great job fricking up your own arguments, you think the PS2 isn’t going on sale either?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Although the Consumer Electronics Association says the average price of a DVD player was $193 last year
                Illiterate fricking monkey. The average price was already below $200 by 2001. The PS2 only came out in NA in October of 2000. There were absolutely $100 DVD players when the PS2 came out. It was never anywhere close to being the cheapest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Another year between the PS2 releasing and DVD players finally going below 200 is not helping your case you moron
                >cheapest
                You keep using this when nobody brings it up

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Another year between the PS2 releasing and DVD players finally going below 2000
                October of 2000 to the year 2001 is not a year.
                >You keep using this when nobody brings it up
                They do, and even if you want to pretend it's cheap, it's not. The average was under $200. That includes all the high end models. Do you know what that means for the average model?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What month in 2001? It easily could be the end of the year, where all the holiday sales finally begin, barely being below $200 on black friday only shows how much better value getting a PS2 would be

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's insane to me that you still don't understand what an average price is and how that compares to a median price. Looks like tendies know as little about statistics as they do technology and games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He was saying the price as a minimum, therefore 193 was the lowest he found it as, it is on average higher

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He was saying the price as a minimum
                >the average price of a DVD player was $193 last year
                Do you think average and minimum mean the same thing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Shit yeah I misread the part, generally still the best practice is not to buy the cheapest walmart shit since it wont last long, so the average is still the most accurate one. Again as said before, the value of the DVD player isnt the same as it being the cheapest like you keep repeating

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >generally still the best practice is not to buy the cheapest walmart shit since it wont last long
                And now we're onto backpedaling and damage control. The cheapest Walmart ones were like $50. The median (meaning the average consumer level purchase) was about $100. You've already proven you don't remember prices at the time, don't bother trying to insist now that you actually do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can’t backpedal on things I never said, also the average was 193 according to your own article you that you linked, not 100, stop making shit up you lying Black person

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Figure it out yourself

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not my problem to figure it out, you want to prove the PS2 wasn’t selling because of the DVD player value

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you want to prove the PS2 wasn’t selling because of the DVD player value
                It wasn't a value when it was nowhere close to being the cheapest. You're pretending families wouldn't regularly buy their kids game consoles and only bought the PS2 because it was a multimedia device they could all share. That's not true.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Article doesn't seem legit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you parroting one guy 300 times because you got triggered isn't actually multiple people saying something

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just GTA FF and Gran Turismo.

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >snoys can't handle the PS2 being called a cheap DVD player

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      snoys always hate facts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They’re trying to rewrite history with the sony nintendo deal as well, for the 50th time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DVD players were $100 by the year 2000
      >this means that the PS2 priced at $300 was a cheap DVD player
      I know third worlders have trouble reading English, but can you not understand numbers either?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thirdies can barely read their own poojeet language let alone read english, its why they jsut cope and scream when reality wienerslaps them around

        >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>this means that the PS2 priced at $300 was a cheap DVD player
        No that means PS2 priced at $300 was a free DVD player

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NOOOOOOO but you could totally get a completely dogshit china dvd player for $100 so the dvd player in the ps2 never mattered!!!! stop listening to the millions of people saying otherwise!!!!!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the millions of people saying otherwise!!!!!
            You mean the tendie youtuber who made up that lie to rationalize the Gamecube's shit sales due to a lack of good games?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No we mean according to Sony

              >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in Japan
                That's nice. Do you have his comments about the other markets where over 100 million units were sold?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >eric keeps crying because facts don't care about his coping fits

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Per capita Japan owns most of the PS2s
                >b-but big number
                Per capita is only real way to compare populations, this is basic statistics

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Per capita is only real way to compare populations
                Good thing we're comparing game consoles and not populations.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And even better that the population of Japan bought it for the DVD player, according to

                >hes still trying to deny that the PS2 being a DVD player wasn't a big selling point at launch despite president of SIE stating the DVD player was huge for the PS2 early life

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the population of Japan bought it for the DVD player
                *at launch before a vast majority of its sales happened

                The population purchased it for the DVD player
                Per capita the population purchased the most amount of PS2s
                Therefore it can be inferred that other populations also bought it for the DVD player

                I wonder if you're trying to be funny, shitposting for the sake of it, or if you're actually a mentally ill enough tendie to believe this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >at launch before a vast majority of its sales happened
                Which still gives an accurate enough measurement of what people were initially buying the console for

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >initially buying the console
                During the period when a tiny fraction of the sales happened, yes. Irrelevant in the grand scheme when looking at 150 million+ sales.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah and a third of that 150 mill was in third world countries which is the other reason

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                NONONONONOONONON JAPAN ISNT REAL IT PROVES ME WRONG DELETE THIS NOW
                PS2 CANT PLAY DVDS AT ALL
                PS3 HAS GAMES
                PS5 ISN'T A FLOP

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >snoy spends all day watching "tendie youtubers" so he can cry about it
              >desperately ignores the real world where people were buying a PS2 because it came with a decent DVD player bolted to it
              >seethes and screams when the PRESIDENT OF SONY INTERACTIVE states that it having a DVD player was a major part of its success, especially at launch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >desperately ignores the real world where people were buying a PS2 because
                it had the best games, and not because it cost more than other DVD players on the market.
                >especially at launch
                In Japan at launch, where a tiny fraction of the sales happened.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry Black person I'll trust the president of the fricking company that made the console more than a random schizo throwing a tantrum over the fact that having a DVD player in the early 2000s was a selling point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sorry Black person I'll trust the president of the fricking company
                Talking about the launch sales in Japan which make up a tiny fraction of the total sales? Okay. Where did the other 150 million sales come from?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                keep coping eric

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The population purchased it for the DVD player
                Per capita the population purchased the most amount of PS2s
                Therefore it can be inferred that other populations also bought it for the DVD player

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              gamecube had good games. but the ps2 had so many more good games it's unreal. we're never getting a console with that many good exclusives ever again.

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tendiemutts seething lmao

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PRO EVOLUTION SOCCER

  109. 2 weeks ago
    OP

    cool discussion everyone
    my plan has finally set sail

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh the canvas can do miracles

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dreamcast flopped out the gate
    >PS2 was the first real gen 6 console
    >it came with a free DVD player
    >saw no competition the entire gen

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