Why did JRPGs fail?

Why did JRPGs fail?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They stopped being turn based.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This lmao fucking retarded japs thought they could get the call of duty kids by stabbing their audience in the face, turns out only needs are going to buy some gay shit named final fantasy no matter what so maybe they should just make a fucking final fantasy game instead of subverting our expectations like god damn garden gnomes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turn Based JRPGs better than ever though. Also non-turnbased JRPGs like the entire Souls metafranchise mog their equivalent real time WRPGs constantly. Stop equating JRPGs to Final Fantasy when FF hasn't been relevant as a JRPG in 20 years.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post 3

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Person 5, SMT V, Dragon Quest XI

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Shit games lmao are you fucking kidding me

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Actual retard here

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shitsona trash gets angry about the truth

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If FFXVI traded in all the Game of Throne shit for a turn based gameplay FF that called back to the PS1 days but with graphics of today, it would have been GOTY immediately. Same with FF7 Remake except instead of Game of Throne shit (which it didn't have thankfully) they could have at least been more open and honest about how the game isn't exactly the "remake" people were expecting story-wise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It wont sell that well if it keep being trapped on ps5
        Best way is for microsoft to buy them and release it on pc

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You people say this, but none of you would play it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turn based is garbage in JRPGs though, it doesn't take any advantage of the tactical aspect. No positioning or movement, no build depth, it's the most basic RPG combat ever.
      Kingdom Hearts should have revolutionarized JRPG combat, but the damn japs didn't learn a thing. At least Squeenix did kinda

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro? your last remnant? your persona 1? your bravely default?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/nF0dveV.jpg

      Why did JRPGs fail?

      Why the hell turn based fags refuse to buy turn based JRPGs? You guys act like FF is the only JRPG series while refusing to play anything else. FFXVI had more threads than newest turn based JRPG games, even compared to games from Square such as Octopath 2.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would I buy a game that looks like RPG maker trash? WE'RE IN 2023, NOT 1997!!!

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Elden Ring won.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's not a jrpg (and it's pherpas one of the reasons why it succeeded).

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What makes a JRPG, then? Because in OP's pic, Witcher 3 and BG3 are wildly different games (action vs. turn-based, single vs. party, concrete character vs. creation, talent tree vs. class-based, different camera angles) from entirely different genres, but they're both considered WRPGs. There's as many differences between these two as there is between Dark Souls and FFX. So either WRPG vs JRPG just means the region its from or it has a deeper meaning.
        If W3 and BG3 count together, then Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Persona, Monster Hunter, Final Fantasy, Pokemon, and Dragon Quest are all JRPGs. And that means JRPGs are doing fine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Action game.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They haven't changed up their garbage combat and copy/paste story in literal decades.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the truth right here. The story and characters are the same 6 personas.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why is rogue so shit
    level 4, literally 2 stealth skills and dagger+1? What the fuck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Every class is pretty shitty in the beginning but if you want to make a broken character you should multiclass rogue into fighter and maybe even barbarian. Now you have shitloads of extra attacks backed with rage and stealth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Take thief
      >Hide into shoot 2 hand crossbows
      >Guarenteed (1d4 + (rogue level/2 rounded up)d6)
      Alternatively
      >Take assassin
      >Get a free round in any fight you can ambush people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why is rogue so shit
      Rogues are one of my faovrite classes in the game. They are OP as fuck.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did not accept Tencent money and bots like WRPGs. Now they are.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://arch.b4k.co/v/search/image/AWOJWn6buhtE-JuPAUZiGQ/

      Mental illness

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this was debunked

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Tencent don't own 30% of Larian?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, and never say that again, you unamerican piece of shit

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But they literally do tho post your image with the shares

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Tencent have no authorative control over anything Larian does they only provide capital and recieve income, Swen is the majority shareholder and has actual executive control over Larian's activities.

          you could've just posted this piece of garbage and it would still mog the best jprgs

          Solasta is fun, but you're playing it mostly as a dungeon crawling sim. Custom content + Unfinished Business mod make the game endlessly replayable too.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tencent have no authorative control
            But tencent OWN 30% of the company yes or no?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >5e
            >needs to install mods to "fix" his garbage game
            >fun
            you just have shit taste

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Damage control, the gnomish controlled ccp owns your garbage garden gnome propaganda outlet

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, they own 30% of the stock, you being too retarded and gnomish to understand what that means despite being told several times doesn't matter.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So they don't own 30% of the company?
            If that 30% becomes 100% they own the company?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How many times are you going to shitpost in circles like this? I'm genuinely curious.

              >interest in something's well being without being able to control it
              Retard still don't understand the point

              I'd love to see what your "point" is supposed to be, since you haven't really laid it out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based china is going to save video games from pozzed western developers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So Tencent don't own 30% of Larian?

      >Tencent have no authorative control
      But tencent OWN 30% of the company yes or no?

      Damage control, the gnomish controlled ccp owns your garbage garden gnome propaganda outlet

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why cant you answer a simple question?
        Is Larian 30% owned by tencent, yes or no?

        Your image kinda proves it dos.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The question has been answered but you keep rejecting it because you're too retarded to understand what words mean. Yes, they own 30% share but Tencent has no authority over Larian's activities because it's a prefered stock. Not to mention that Swen is majority share holder so it's not even a pressing issue.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Tencent has no authority
            Who ever questioned that you fucking imbecile?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So then what's the legitimate issue? Tencent has nothing to do with the game or Larian outside of providing capital.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Tencent has nothing to do with the game
                They own 30% of the company but has no interest in the game success and the value of the company?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes and?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You did when you keep trying to say they own 30% of the company while screeching about how this is an issue, while ignoring their stock type and ignoring that 70% is owned by the CEO.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Point out exactly where the words "authority" was ever mentioned

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When you brought up ownership. Why are you ignoring that the CEO controls the company?

                >Tencent has nothing to do with the game
                They own 30% of the company but has no interest in the game success and the value of the company?

                >retard doesn't understand that you can have an interest in something's well being without being able to control it

                Why people are still falling for this unconfirmed bait is beyond me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >interest in something's well being without being able to control it
                Retard still don't understand the point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What's your point?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No if you actually know what they are and can read basic English like in that image, yes if you're a retard (you). I'd elaborate but I doubt you'd want to hear it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >DAMAGE CONTROL SPECIALISTS

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Anon minorities have no power in shareholder capitalism

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        europoors are so pathetic, defending their video games with their life and sucking off chink cock
        >10 posts in 2 days

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You shouldn't be calling anyone else pathetic, schizo.
          >137 results within 13 days

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Holy fuck the bethesdrone shills are fucking pathetic lmfao

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            hmm
            >380 results
            you should kys europoor/larian bot

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >379 posts in 3 years
              vs
              >140 within two weeks
              Lmao, you aren't helping yourself here.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This poster is a Hispanic btw. Only Hispanics still use "europoor" on flag boards.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So Tencent indeed has a very high interest in Larian success

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a shareholder has interest in the success of the company they invested in
          Sure. Now if we assume this is even true, it doesn't matter for two obvious reasons shown off in

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          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You own 30% or something.
            You paid a lot for those 30%
            You don't care for its future?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Can you say that again but with proper English this time?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dismissive
                You own 30% of something.
                You paid a lot for that 30%.
                Don't you care about its future?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You own 30% or something.
                You paid a lot for those 30%
                You don't care for its future?

                Where are you going with this? What's your point?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You own 30% or something.
                You paid a lot for those 30%
                You don't care for its future?

                Who implies otherwise dumbass? This isn't relevant to the conversation.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This isn't relevant to the conversation
                You are literally unable to understand.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They own 30% of shares, entitling them to 30% of the profit. They do not own 30% of the company.
              Do you not understand English?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They do not own 30% of the company
                If that 30% becomes 100%, do they own the company?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even going to bother going into specifics right now over this dumb shit, but are you actually trying to argue over a hypothetical situation? What the fuck are you even trying to talk about right now?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Its not ownership
                >can't answer a simple question because he knows it would stomp him
                heh

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you want a discussion about the comprehension of business management go make a thread on Ganker instead of shitting up Ganker. I'd tell you to read a book but it doesn't seem like you have a very good capability to read things written in the English language.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So you do not understand English.
                Are you being paid for this, pajeet?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dismissive

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    horrible pacing and grind.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Astarion the fabulous vampire vampire has more masculinity than your average JRPG protagonist.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Majority of them are too similar. Ugly anime models that look like weird dolls, generic stories, characters you won't care about, and "hit and heal" shallow combat.

      This. It's weeb trash and they are all the same (wether it is anime, manga or video games).

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Majority of them are too similar. Ugly anime models that look like weird dolls, generic stories, characters you won't care about, and "hit and heal" shallow combat.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >generic stories, characters you won't care about, and "hit and heal" shallow combat.
      this all applies to wrpgs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not even true. Healing in BG3 is extremely weak and characters have a small amount of hitpoints right until the end.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are you smoking? Only FF16 failed, besides that other JRPGs have remained mostly the same and have never been more popular than now
    >Soulshit, Persona/SMT, DQ, FE, Xenoblade, Atelier etc

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't.
    FF just has not been good in like 15 years now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Persona 5 was seven fucking years ago anon.
      Persona 6 when?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    someone post that ff16 webm and that's all u have to show

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wrpgs were always superior to japslops

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *crpgs

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JRPGs only ever had production value going for it. Now that Wizard of the Coast and Games Workshop are not run by retarded boomers, the licensing rights are distributed to proper game devs.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Y, WNBAW!

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't, even the biggest Neptunia shitpile is better than any AAA western pronounslop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >slop
      Only retards use this phrase, and only a giga retard would say Neptunia is better than anything besides RPGmaker garbage, Crusaders of M&M is a shitty old game and yet it SHITS all over every Neptunia game.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they peaked here and decided the best way to further the genre is to appeal to babbies

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you could've just posted this piece of garbage and it would still mog the best jprgs

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because gamers do love the choice of being in the driver seat while jrpgs are always and have always been dragging the player along for the ride. here is a cut scene where your character is talking and then we're back to allowing you to use him again for some fighting and exploring and then you can watch another cut scene where he talks.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why haven't WRPGs progressed past Bioware derivatives and Bethesda slop?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those are shit games which are rightfully hated.
      Good innovative wrpgs are in the op.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Good innovative wrpgs are in the op
        another DnD dice roll game and generic open world slop #1846? God damn gaming is dead if the bar for being good is that low

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >attack something in wrpg
    >character swings sword

    >attack something in jrpg
    >horse does a backflip, rider does a pirouette, particle spam all over the screen, slow-mo slash

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV MSQ (up to 6.0) is great what you on about

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shut up you stupid chud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >FF14chud too stupid to differentiate between JRPG and MMORPG

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    JRPGs have actually been way more successful now than they were during the brown shooter era
    I still dont know what BG3 did that's revolutionary besides being another CRPG but everyone is a pansexual gay
    also Witcher 3 is beyond overrated, its entire gameplay is Batman vision or Quen and light attack spam plus the story shits the bed past Bloody Baron

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people who play video games have the same mentality about Japanese games as a mid 2000s journalist. They see even the slightest bit of Japanese culture making it through the industry mandated sift and start foaming at the mouth about how cringe it is because it is a thing unrecognizable to them.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are, for the most part, garbage. It's a shitty genre with only a handful of decent titles (SaGa, Bravely Default, Black Souls). CRPGs, TRPGs, DRPGs and even ARPGs are all superior.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This retard literally has no point to any of this arguments beyond "Tencent Bad" and when forced to expand on his points he just continues with circular logic.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does BG3 trigger the shills so hard? They have been going berserk for over two months now.
    If anything this proves that Larian is free from chink and blackrock influence.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why does BG3 trigger the shills so hard? They have been going berserk for over two months now.
      Because garden gnomes didn't corrupt Larian before they made GOTY.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BG3 shills blaming shills
      LOL.
      >garden gnomes didn't corrupt Larian
      Hard to corrupt something that's even more corrupt than them
      >Promises finished game after 3 years
      >Still unfinished
      >Promises 17K endings
      >4 endings, Mass Effect 3 style color swaps
      >Promises le real roleplaying
      >Story is linear as shit
      >Everyone is bisexual, racemixer, degenerate
      >There are no homogenous cities, every one of them features people from all the races
      >Half of the game is about helping the rapefugees to get into Baldur's Gate
      >California writing all over the place
      Larry Fink approves.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BG3 is a complete game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So why do they have to patch it then?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the most hyped and best game of he year releases
        >people discuss it
        This triggers the shill

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank you Xi and the People's Republic of China for sponsoring GOTY
    Sharts, Glowies and Redditors continue to seethe

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >turn-based but no tactics
    >just attack, run , le magic spell

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus fucking Christ
    Every single one of you are criminally retarded on the marketing and share's values subject.
    Every company on the planet that invests millions in shares WILL do everything they can to make those shares rise in value.
    And guess what China/Tencent is known for?
    Holy fuck people.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what's your point beyond China bad? And what does this have to do with BG3 the game?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you actually a schizo? This is a genuine question.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      economics fags are more schizo than religious people these days lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >And guess what China/Tencent is known for?
      Liveleak videos? Eating dogs? Corona?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Corona?
        wow
        hold on there buddy
        that is a schizo conspiracy
        you know you can't use that one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What voting rights does Tencent's shares in Larian give them?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >voting rights
        you people are beyond retarded...

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not the shill that doesn't understand what preferred shares are despite being told a dozen times.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            China will uhhhh influence Larian to promote china or something because... they just will okay!?
            God bless America!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes china is known for not doing stuff like that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What the fuck else do you think shareholders and their direct influence is related to, dumbass?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a little retarded. These people give tencent their money every fucking day I guarantee they don't look at the investing history in companies that make the slop they eat or the plastic they wear, drive, live in. They are already slaves to the chinks now suddenly is time to fight back because much bideo gaem. Fighting back meting throwing their poop at anyone who played it, and not harming tencent in any way, shape or form.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A lot of developers, including Japanese and Korean ones, are invested into by Tencent. The only way for you not to not touch anything partially funded by Tencent would be if you only play low budget indies, that is not a problem in of itself unless Tencent has voting rights which for the most part they do not in the companies they own shares in.

        I gurantee that only reason you suddenly care about Tencent is not because you hate the CCP, you couldn't care less you shitposter, you just want to stir the fucking pot with your discord buddies. Notice how Tencent owning shares is only now a problem.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I do not have discord installed, I never have I never will. I fucking despise anything that comes from China and I can thank 4chan before discord was even an idea. But I think you missed my point, I'm not critical of a company making sound legal investments they are allowed to do this. I don't think they should be but it's beyond my control. I'm being critical of the people saying we should all boycott a game for being Chinese owned, while they do nothing about anything else being Chinese owned. I don't care about a global video game having Chinese investors, the house I live in or food I eat on the other hand..

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jrpg's were never rpg's in the first place because dense nippoids failed to grasp what makes rpg a rpg
    Jrpg's are just adventure games with numbers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing wrong with the japanese approach to RPGs, they just really liked one dudes take on the Wizardry formula and kept expanding on that idea. More expansive and freeforms games like Elona and the Lunatic Dawn series exist but those are niche and few and far between.

      Even when it comes to WRPGs, CRPGs like Baldur's Gate 3 and Wrath of the Righteous are also niche in favour of more generally pallatable games like CP2077 and Skyrim which are essentially action games with slight branching paths.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    China, the country known for its ethics and fair play.
    荣耀归中国

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Discord gays are clearly beyond my understanding because how the fuck can you keep this retardation going when it's clear to everyone that you're a screeching monkey flinging its poopoo everywhere.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because companies that used to make good JRPGs have become corps owned by businessmen funders, they used to have a very specific audience of teen to middle aged japanese men, but now the target audience is too diverse it's literally the whole world (men, women, kids, fags, trannies, morons...)
    And since they are businessmen who never played a video game they think that simply making a cocktail of diversity and random features from west and east that worked, it will be a good product.
    Instead of appealing to everyone like they utopically thought, it appeals to no one.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they are boring and garbage, just look pokmn is still the best selling jrpg by far lmao the state of jrpg and japan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pokemon is honorary jrpg

      https://i.imgur.com/nF0dveV.jpg

      Why did JRPGs fail?

      Witcher 3 is the 8th gen equivalent to skyrim

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't, only Square Enix failed and that's because they were always shit but could cover it up with high budgets

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CRPmorons. should i go back to the RTWP titles?

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They fail because of shit english VA
    All RPGs have mediocre writing and contrived narratives, it's just that wrpgs know how to package and hide this behind good performances.
    All jrpgs run into the shitty anime dub problem

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All jrpgs run into the shitty anime dub pro-

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    TRVTHNVKE: JRPGs are not RPGs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      True jrpgs arent rpgs but they are still more rpg then any non crpg style wrpg

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