why did nintendo completely erase the kokiri from the zelda mythology? Posted on May 22, 2023 by Anonymous why did nintendo completely erase the kokiri from the zelda mythology?
uoooh kokiri girls too erotic for modern audiences
why did they turn dicky and shota into A FUCKING LEAF?
fairy children that don't age, where did I see this before
disney doesnt own peter pan
And IIRC Links design is inspired by Peter Pan
come to think of it i wonder if disney is the reason they changed links "standard" outfit these past 2 games.
I doubt it
I always assumed the change was to make it obvious this is not a standard zelda game new looks for new styles
It's very obviously a combo of two things.
Making Link stand out more against a now mostly green backdrop and making his new default look generic enough that you'll be more incentivized to use the various pieces of gear.
If he had the green tunic from the start then swapping it out for a climbing set would feel more like in terms of looks.
That's why the green tunic is like the last outfit you get in the entire game and also one of the best ones.
>would feel more like a downgrade* in terms of looks
They did it because they were missing a blue character for Smash and Yoshi is already their green character
As other Anons have said, it was to make him stand out against the vegetation, as well as signalling that this was a big departure from the regular Zelda formula.
But also: Whoever is in charge of the game right now didn't like the green tunic and especially the hat. He thought it was stupid and believes it will never look good. He did say that the original Hero's tunic was green, but it just didn't look good to them and liked the blue more, so they changed it.
>He thought it was stupid and believes it will never look good.
and in exchange, we got nail polish
i was putting up with the ice slut armor for a while but when i saw the nail polish that was it. ill just run around in the snow without a shirt on.
play wind waker.
Add to that how they replaced the Deku with Koroks.
Deku are way cooler than Koroks. I miss those price-gouging garden gnome-ass pricks
play wind waker
the korok makar's ancestor is a kokiri
>The Great Deku Tree turned the kokiri into fucking trees because pedophiles kept mistaking them for children and kept kidnapping and raping them
Better creepypasta than ben
Ey yo that beat is bananas
Jokes on them, I'm a Dendrophile
>someone tells you to touch grass
>tfw link is too autistic as a child in a mans body to fuck you
the curse of being a hebe developing much much faster than the boy you like
Kokiri don't develop, anon. Also she literally raised him, she was always more mature.
>HD is… le bad
aren't kokiris supposed to be inmortal? they didn't age after link become adult
They can still get killed
They're not immortal. They just don't age.
That doesn't change the fact that they replaced them.
I love the exploring stuff in BOTW/TOTK, but find the characters underwhelming. A fusion of BOTW-style overworld and side quests fused with OOT/MM characters would be top tier
So GTA but zelda.
I miss these dudes like you wouldn't believe. They at least make for a more interesting npc race than Koroks as they're more neutral or actually side with Ganon on some occasions rather than just being goody-goody can do no wrong Koroks. The most you'd get out of a mean or passive aggressive race nowadays is the Gerudo and that's just because they don't want men in their town.
They really are much more well designed and interesting than either the Kokiri or Koroks with the neat plant "hair" and clothing. Since Dekus tend to be a bit more mischievous and distrusting of outsiders anyway it opens up more interesting stories about Link getting in trouble with them at first because they become friends instead of him always being the hero who gets along with everyone.
Deku scrubs would've fit better in BotW/TotK. Koroks were only ever popular because Princess Mononoke had recently come out, and they felt new and unique at the time. Now they just feel like a lazy childhood rehash.
Because they didn't, they are korok now.
Maybe they didn’t like the lasting confusion where a lot of people thought/still think link IS a kokiri. Maybe why they turned them into little tree men.
They were replaced by koroks. You can't have two similar races in the same game. Same reason there are no evil river Zoras anymore.
WW: the orni are the evolution of zoras which has been extinct
BotW: there are orni and zora
why did nintendo completely erase tingle from the zelda mythology?
they got the wrong impression that americans hated tingle
well we do hate gays but tingle was alright because he molested children
>Japanese company doing what Americans want
Nintendo aren't Sony
>What is Twilight Princess
Look up the reason why The Windwaker 2 got scrapped (and later turned into a shitty DS game called Phantom Hourglass) and Twilight Princess got made as the next mainline Zelda game instead.
Pretty sure he is hated, retard that makes annoying noises and pushes some garbage gameboy peripheral in wind Walker, he has an island named after him far west side of the botw map.
On a compass, west is on the left. East is on the right.
I meant to say east, you are correct
Nsider forums couldn't stop shitting on him.
>idubbz now is a literal cuck who hates all the stuff he used to make and his fans
>any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe that they're in good company
his content attracted an audience of edgy teenagers couldn't tell his racist remarks were meant to make a free speech statement. so his audience was full of actual racists who went around saying the n-word because they felt like his videos gave them permission to. so he started to resent them, and I don't blame him
also his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck, I don't think you know what that word means anon.
least delusional cuck on Ganker
Cucks of a feather
I mean yeah I actually do kinda understand where he's coming from in a way especially knowing how annoying 4chantards can be, I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be publically associ-
>also his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck,
being a cuck is when you watch someone fuck your partner. your partner selling lewd pictures online is not even remotely the same thing.
when I was growing up people would brag about having supermodel and pornstar wives. like you're literally calling someone a cuck for having a partner so hot that they can make money just from being hot.
what the hell happened that turned this generation into such puritanical prudes?
the amount of idiocy contained in your post tells me you're born after the year 2000 and that you're vaxxed and have a BLM tattoo.
>b-b-but having a hot wife is the same as having a pornstar / whore for a wife!
fucking retarded gay have a nice day
>I want my woman to debase herself and all the world to see her naked body
>when I was growing up people would brag about having supermodel and pornstar wives.
Things that never happened.
You're mistaking television for reality.
none of this post actually happened btw and most people understood his free speech message. he said himself that he saw 1 person in real life say morongay to him and it ruined it for him. the truth is that he got backlash for his girlfriend being on onlyfans and then deflected the criticism by claiming that his audience is full of right wing chuds instead of facing the reality that most people see that he was okay with it as disgusting and then he disguises his further degeneracy in life as "maturing"
Sadly no one with sense will see it that way. Dm4t8p
>his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck
Always funny how trash that make money making fun of people, can't take fire themselves
>also his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make
Was with you up until here
Agreed with you until last paragraph, eitherway, you can't blame Idubbbz for attracting certain people to his community, it's the same argument that South park raised a generation of trolls.
>his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck, I don't think you know what that word means anon.
Maybe, but what does make him a cuck is a thirty minute video about how he totally doesn't care that his wife is a whore and that people are making fun of him.
>lashes out at everyone who works with Sam Hyde because Sam kept calling Anisa a bitch slut whore cunt Yoko Ono after trying to make a hitpiece on Sam
He's a fag, that's all that matters.
>also his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck, I don't think you know what that word means anon.
Your post would've been a lot more effective without this last line but you probably added it on purpose.
I added it because it's true
your wife selling lewds is so inconsequential it's baffling that you dipshits clutch your pearls so fervently over it.
watching someone fuck your wife? cuck. letting your wife flirt with strangers? cuck. being in a one sided "open relationship"? cuck.
but scamming losers out of money with nudie shots? who gives a shit?
what do you lose in that situation?
>hey look at my hot naked wife that you will literally never get to fuck that I fuck every night
how does that make you a cuck? you're not being dominated or overtaken in any way. If anything you're dabbing on the losers who pay for those lewds who will never get to fuck your wife
I'm drunk and I think I made my point well enough. The fact that so many people disagree with me on this board just makes me think less of all of you. This generation is full of fucking incel prudes.
I've been here longer than any of you by the way before you start calling me a newfag redditor
You’re really thinking about it too hard
at least I thought about it at all unlike all of you dipshits who reflexively regurgitate the opinion expected of you.
if the groupthink already agrees with you, what's the point in formulating an argument, just post a reaction face or two
No you really don’t have to think about it
Unga bunga me have wife me nkt want her sell naked cave drawings to other men
See? That simple
not related but I thought of this and started chuckling to myself
unga bunga he's so sexy
if it brings in money and none of the losers paying for your wife's nudes will ever get to fuck her then how is it anything other than a net positive
and if you start talking about sanctity and purity and all that shit I ask you to tell me, what sacred bond is broken when every party is okay with the selling of said lewds?
if nobody involved cares, why should you? and why DO you? since you obviously do
Tell that to any random man and 99% of the time they will think he is a cuck so therefore he is a cuck. You’re really thinking about it too hard
>also his fiance having an onlyfans doesn't make him a cuck
such a fucking gay
>bro letting your wife whore her nudes out for money is based!
what the fuck is wrong with people nowadays?
subversion really fucking works doesn't it?
free (you) for your time, thanks keep it up
>Modern men would rather be literal cucks forced to be humiliated by garden gnomes than a wagie
It really do be like dat doe
He did that for more money and press, not that he actually cares.
Tingle is such an incel he never passed on his genes
Meanwhile the Chad Link has impregnated so many women he will always have a successor
american viceo game sites like IGN would have articles like "TOP 10 WORST CHARACTERS IN VIDEO GAMES EVER" and have tingle as #1 so nintendo just took that as the character being poison for western audiences.
why won't Nintendo completely erase Beedle from the Zelda mythology?
He looks like the chud from Megamind
Beedle is so trash
The game needs Sephardic gnomish representation
Wasn't Wind Waker the time Aonuma took the reigns almost completely? I noticed that characters that debuted in his games stick around forever like Beedle and Hylia while other older ones like Dekus and Kokiri just poofed.
classic hack behavior, the desire to make a series their own. see also: sakamoto
it's a goddam shame because tingle has had 2 games and they're both GREAT and full of soul
lucky the 2nd one has a translation patch
first tingle game sucked ass
Ripened Tingle's Balloon Trip of Love on the other hand is one of the best point&click adventure games I've ever played
>first tingle game sucked ass
why didnt you like it?
I liked the bargain system, that you could hire bodyguards, the ambiance of the areas, the silly combat system, that you collected rupees to toss into a fountain only to be tricked by the final boss, the passive zelda references, the alternate title screen
it's so different from everything else, and then balloon trip of love goes above and beyond
I don't remember the specifics since I played it like a decade ago, I just remember not enjoying it
Tingle smokes weed with ww Link on his island, he's his dealer
They replaced him with Kilton and Kolton.
It was a shit idea. Good riddance.
they're all dead
Nintendo turned the fish people into bird people but then decided to have fish and bird people. Nintendo are weird.
BotW and TotK are reboots
So by that logic the Kokiri aren't Koroks. Kokiri were originally Hyrulians that got lost in the forest as kids and caught the peter pan syndrome anyway.
That is objectively wrong, the very plot of OoT contradicts it
Kokiris are born from the Deku Tree ad receive a fairy. If I’m not mistaken, that piece of lore is written in the manual but I’m too lazy to check it.
It’s Link that was a orphan and brought to the Deku Tree when he was still an infant.
>caught the peter pan syndrome
Peter Pan Syndrome is an actual psychology concept referring to men or women who hate getting older and are obsessed with their own childhoods or want to be children again.
This is distinct from fictional children who don’t grow up.
It would make sense that zoras are just underwater in ww and rarely have contact with people on land. Two species that are related evolutionary can and often do exist at the same time until one of them becomes a dead end and goes extinct due to not being able to prosper in their environment.
There is no fish in WW ocean besides the cartographer. It’s not really water, but spiritual substance of sorts
where does it ever say this? If that were true then gyorgs including the jaws that Orca has mounted on his wall wouldn't exist.
The only reference to a "fishless sea" is from the scuba diver treasure hunter guys. No idea if it's a mistranslation though because there clearly are creatures in the sea in Wind Waker
Ganondorf says there are no fish as well
most of the creatures you see are monsters not fish
Those creatures are monsters, anon.
there's no functional difference besides them looking scary and being aggressive. they are fishlike, and judging by chuchus which are also monsters, they are both edible and healthy for you.
Them being monsters means they're servants of Ganon and not natural creatures. Also your average person can't beat one in a fight and eat them.
monsters turn into smoke when you kill them and thus aren't possible to eat. unless a bunch of people are Mandela effecting right now, this was actually a plot point in Wind Waker
Also forgot to mention fishing exists in phantom hourglass which is a direct sequel to wind waker
>There's no fish
>I'M GONNA TOON
PH is a different ocean than the Great Sea because it's a dream world or something
>There is no fish in WW ocean besides the cartographer
I mean, there are sharks, their are squid, there are gulls.
Pretty sure you're a retard.
>there are sharks, their are squid
Monsters created by Ganon.
lul no fish in windwaker, lul no wolves on fenris
Cool headcanon but the game directly disproves this.
Medli is the only Rito with a confirmed Zora ancestor. For what it matters, there is also a Rito in WW who is decisively stated to be descended from the Running Man/Postman of OOT-MM; a Hylian. So even if some Rito had Zora ancestors, others had Hylian ancestors; so they're probably a mixed bag from most peoples who took Rito form rather then the 'X' turned into the 'Y'.
and we know Hylians and Zora can breed from Twilight Princess also. So it could be the OoT postman fucked a fish and his grandson turned into a bird. We also now know from ToTK that there are additional Zora domains outside Hyrule's, so you know, a lot of things could have happened
the thumbnail makes the bird have a big smile.
They went extinct and got replaced by tree people.
WW: actual characters
Current zelda: YAHAHA! YOU FOUND ME!
and they suck. God are they ugly
>a branch an a leaf on top
I want to go back
Hang on..are they black?
>butller is well behaved and polite
I don't think so
There's a difference between an African and a black American moron.
we need to find you a woman G
I always felt like there was some tribal African art influence for Majora's Mark in particular.
they're jungle savages, what do you think?
Most of us do.
th-that's not a nose?
They're black lmfao
That's why Nintendo didn't want to reuse them
i don't see it at all and i'm glad i don't.
>LINK, WE ARE ON THE PATH TO EXTINCTION; ALL OF THE MALES OF OUR SPECIES ARE GAY. IF YOU COULD STOP PUMPING FISH PUSSY FOR FIVE SECONDS, THERE IS A HALF A VILLAGE OF UNDERAGE dicky JUST WAITING TO GET BRED. SARIA IS ON HER BED RIGHT NOW, PUSSY DRIPPING AND THIRSTING FOR THE HERO OF TIME'S COCK. SHE'S TWO HEADS SHORTER THAN YOU AND LIGHT AS A FEATHER. COME ON BRO, REMEMBER WHO RAISED YOU; YOU OWE US. THE KOKIRI RACE MUST CONTINUE
wasnt that "game" scrapped?
Nintendo assassins got him.
At this point there are probably more unfinished OoT 2D fan projects than there are games on all Nintendo consoles combined.
I wish. Like every OoT h-game, the creator goes dark and it never gets finished. Only some sprites.
>Finally some porn that features Din
>It's fucking dead
>last activity on their pixiv was two years ago
all of their stuff was uploaded at the same time on the same day, its possible he could still be working on it. actively posting progress would just get nintendo to come by and break his legs like they just did to the splatoon porn game guy.
>Everyone references this game
>No one ever says the name
I still have no clue what this is
It's not even a game, its just some bits of art posted on pixiv a few years ago and never had any followup.
One of those cases where you'd almost wish nothing had been posted at all so you don't have something to be disappointed about.
Can a species be saved by a single male if you give him say, at least 100 women? will there be enough genetic diversity to not end up with circus freaks in the third generation?
Do you have to worry about genetics in a world where people were manifested wholesale by gods and not evolved into place?
I was pondering in general.
We must secure the existence of our forest and a future for Kokiri children
I wonder if the whole reason the Kokori all needed fairies around them 24/7 was because they used the fairys' magic to keep up the human-like facade
That is indeed a popular theory, that the koroks are the original kokiri, and that the koroks simply changed themselves into kokiri to look like children to make OoT Link feel more comfortable among them.
No you idiot, the Kokiri evolved into the Koroks. Wind Waker confirms this.
so they went extict
not sure why ww's lore is relevant anymore after the zora/rito split. Korok could may as well be ghosts or pokemon for all the devs care
You mean devolved
Is it considered extinct if they evolve, i guess that's the case but i'm no scientist so i dont know if there's some bullshit cope about it.
why do they love playing in their own shit?
They were only created in the first place to emphasize the theme of growing up in OoT. Link would eventually need to abandon them and become an adult while they would just be children forever. In the new games that don't have this young/adult Link dichotomy they serve no purpose.
I think partly this, and my personal head-canon: The Kokiri were 'children' metaphorically, and Link saw them as children, but they were always forest spirits just like the fairies. Link was an infant abandoned in the forest during the civil war, and seeming like him was the only way for him to believe he was Kokiri himself.
This hits close to the real issue. OoT was made with that sort of theme in mind whereas every 3D Zelda since has been made as a reaction to OoT. Everything from MM on up to ToTK is either trying to be similar to or different from OoT more than simply trying to be its own thing. So you end up with OoT derivatives instead of anything wholly original.
Any concept art from other games with this solid and 3D way of drawing, love the early digital techniques too.
FE Shadow Dragon probably, the artwork looks straight out of the 90s, well it's a remake of a 90s game after all.
That face style, is this by the ghost in the shell guy?
Yes, Masamune Shirow, dude makes hentai too.
>Kokiri and Deku were replaced with those annoying little Ghibli ripoffs
fuck off aonuma
Weird how they fleshed Dekus out in Majora's Mask as one of the big 3 fantasy races in the zelda world and then just hard dropped them for literally no reason.
maybe they interbred with kokiri which is how we got koroks
they are both forest dwelling races after all
It’s because they’re just boring plants, they really had no impact when I played majoras mask, definitely not as interesting as the Gorons, Gerudo, Kokiri or zora and their dungeon in majoras mask didn’t feel like a real dungeon
because it was a palace? it was also the first dungeon.
Also Deku Link is more memorable than all the other races
deku link was kino because he was completely gimped and only had gay bubble powers. made you feel super powerless as a player, which was very clever
and getting treated like shit by everyone in clock town was great
one of my favorite character designs ever. its just so neat.
Deku Link was such a better way of being shit at the start of the sequel compared to TOTK, Sure link loses his powers metroid style but then he gets majorly buffed, Deku Link is a complete humiliation of Link it's so perfect.
It's even better when you realise Skull kid killed some other kid to make the mask and the butler is just stuck grieving over it
Little touches like him having to jump just to reach a door handle really sold it. As an 8 year old just coming away from being certified bamf adult link in OOT, being forced to be Deku link was incredibly frustrating for me and sold the message of the game well.
The OOT/MM pair really is peak zelda and no amount of Zoomer screeching will change my mind on that.
>The OOT/MM pair really is peak zelda
I agree, recognizing fully that there's an element of nostalgia driving my preference. As much as I've enjoyed some of the games that have come since, and as great a job as BotW does at capturing the large-scale exploration that was intended behind the original LoZ, nothing will ever come close to the gameplay, atmosphere, and lore of the N64 Zelda games
There's a reason why they're still talked about in such high regards to this day. People can bait and troll all they want, but those games have solidified themselves as the cornerstones of the Zelda franchise.
I wonder if it's bexause japanese fans got upset over them scalding the monkey alive, and from that nintendo decided to never use them again.
Everyone had issues in MM and only the dekus were aggressive. Even the Gerudo just threw you out of the fort
Japs and other bugmen love animal abuse tho
Maybe it's really just because they are primary enemies. That one friendly garden gnome just isn't enough and you can't turn into a deku in the other games to interact with them.
What was the last 3D game that used them? I remember Wind Waker had the enemy variant for sure.
>Even the Gerudo just threw you out of the fort
It's implied story wise that they rough up whoever they throw out of the fortress like Mikau who they nearly beat to death
Hope BotW 3 or some other game adds a new "nature" element and have the deku be in charge of it.
Can the Kokiri reproduce?
Not unless some hapless hylian gets lost in their forest
Link brought Malon back to Kokiri Forest and they created Ordon village
Link eradicated the Kokiri with Hylian genes
I don't know, but I just want to let tendies know that I will never be buying TotK, and that I didn't buy BotW, and refuse to spend any money nintendies 399.99 2009 tier tablet nor will I ever buy it to le picofly, or hwfly modchip it, because I have a PC lmfao
Present me your slave hole with a timestamp and sure
disgusting homosexual kaffir you should be thrown from a fucking roof
they were in BotW early in development but ended up getting scrapped
That's way too big for minish. Good the scraped it since they had no idea what minish even were.
the guy who directed botw, and wanted to include minish in it, also directed the minish cap.
Then they wanted to give them the race lift demake of botw which is even worse. Glad minish are kept as they are.
Do you get tired of stringing together buzzwords?
>It's good that they got scrapped...
agreed. I don't see how they would serve a greater purpose in the game other than just being a pointless reference.
>I don't see how they would serve a greater purpose in the game other than just being a pointless reference.
In fantasy settings "Lilliputian/fay folk" characters are typically considered magic specialists, specifically imbuing it into articles of clothing.
They could've been enchanters who gave your weapons desired effect boosts instead of waiting for rng to give you what you wanted, (diamond effect for example).
They're also known for unconventional farming due to their small stature, so they could've been a source for rare materials if you didn't want to fight or search the land for 30 minutes.
And since I'm on a mechanics kick, I might as well mention this.
Does anyone else think that botw/totk should've had a power upgrade equivalent to the stamina and hearts?
>secret stat mechanic that isn't readily apparent
>spirit orbs are just raw energy
>every 4 unspent spirit orbs convert into one point of attack power for all weapons
>longer swim stride
>collect all spirit orbs
>tree branches now hit for 30 power
That's how I would've implemented it. Would have made 3 heart runs very interesting.
Hearts ARE the Power equivalent. Stamina is green and courage. A return of the Blue/Wisdom magic meter is what would truly be needed to bring the three back into balance.
most of those would make more sense as an additional benefit for stamina
Imagine being a minish and getting sat on by Zelda
I've asked this before, but what happened to the giant underground furniture in the leaked TOTK artbook? is it not in the game anywhere?
It's cringe how they absolutely won't reference any of the capcom games.
I wonder if it's because capcom somehow owns some of the ideas and they don't want to pay, or it's a "muh respect" thing, or they dislike the games for some reason even though they're great.
Didn't the first HW have 0 capcom stuff in it?
Nintendo's side is more likely the don't want to use other's work thing that is common among Nintendo even between different development teams. HW seems more likely active dislike for Capcom because Koei-Techmo is a rival.
>he unironically believes these things are still canon in botw timeline
At least gorons and zoras are decently unique compared to generic fantasy races you see in every fantasy setting.
>link doesnt wear the kokiri clothes anymore
just retcon it so they can coexist with koroks, they couldve been in totk as a way to get the time armor set
Because Aonuma is a hack
I prefer koroks. The kokiri just look like regular ass hylians. Koroks actually feel like creatures that live in a forest.
Hey idiot the Deku are in the same game. Kokiri have to look like Hylians for the entire plot to work.
forest creatures living in the forest is way less interesting than seemingly normal children living in the forest.
Cause Nintendo always tries to make Zelda original rather than relying on played out fantasy tropes.
This is why Gorons and Zora exist in OoT rather than the more traditional dwarves and high elves.
The Kokiri stuck out as being far more standard than the other races in Hyrule, so when Wind Waker came up with the Koroks it was a win since it was a much more out there concept than just "normal people but kids in the forest"
Now why did they never do anything about the Gerudo...? Probably afraid of being called racist plus they'd have to change Ganon's backstory.
>Cause Nintendo always tries to make Zelda original
Did TotK add more traditional fantasy races or elements to the lore that I'm not aware of? Obviously the Zonai are stand-ins for the typical super advanced ancient race but they still have the typical Zelda flourish.
what happened to all the shiekah tech anyways? i kind of miss those creepy laser tanks.
They all blew up after Ganon was killed and Purah dismantled the deactivated ones for her towers and other experiments. Modern Shiekah are razy and undisciprined
>source: my ass
the writing in TotK is so bad
The presentation felt like a marvel movie
Having infinity-I mean secret stones didn't help either
It just makes perfect sense, also it's possible Link went around destroying them all for fun in order to get all the armor/arrows he needed
Link didn't do anything in BotW considering no one knows who he is
Please play the games you talk about. The game is littered with people that recognise you.
If marvel is your only reference for storytelling then please consider actually reading a book.
Maybe you should play the game you lying retard
Please tell me what enlightened media TotK can be compared to
>You have to have a very high IQ to understand Tears of the Kingdom...
You implied that having the 7 magical mcguffins was purely a marvel thing. You see them strewn through tons of stories from lord of the rings to sonic the hedgehog.
And for characters recognising link, you have the entire central settlement for starters. Other characters make reference in recognition of your name. I've only done the zora part so far but the entire area seems very familiar with who you are and what you've done.
Thats a nice screenshot but how you can claim that nobody recognises you means it's either not yours or you spent the entire game without reading any dialogue.
I said the presentation was marvel-like.
I get you're a bugman consumer who will blindly slurp nintendo's shit, but this is not good writing and the story presents itself in a bog standard way meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator
>I've only done the zora part
Take the advice you peope spam and actually play the game
Only key characters from the main story remember you
>this is not good writing
Lmao, it's every single zelda game.
>Only key characters from the main story remember you
Ignoring the entire outpost outside the castle consisting of people you've never seen before excluding robbie and purah.
And when entering the zora town the first person I spoke to called me linky.
People recognise you, why is this such a difficult thing to accept?
>And when entering the zora town the first person I spoke to called me linky.
Again nta, but the entire point of the Zora in BoTW is that Link grew up among them and they all knew you because they age like elves. Of course they still know you in Tears because it's part of his backstory, about the only thing we know of him pre-Zelda.
nta but Tears only recognizes main story quests you've done, side quest and former side quest NPCs outside of Lookout Landing have no idea who you are. This is especially bad in Hateno considering the implication that you and Zelda lived there, it's just Simon who knows you because they can guarantee that you met Purah and him as part of the main plot of BoTW.
They could've some cool stuff with save files like totk recognizing your botw save and the same npcs reacting accordingly if you did their quests in the previous game
30+ million copies of botw sold so even if that is a lot of work to implement, it would've been worth it
It already does to a degree, Tears will import your horses from your BoTW save.
I think it's also important to remember that all that Sheikah tech is basically what caused the apocalypse so they probably don't want stuff like that lying around 5-6 years after Ganon's been destroyed.
That said it's no secret that TotK has to write around a lot of eggshells cause the game still has to be made in a way that it can be understood by people who never played BotW, so that's likely the primary reason they're gone.
I assume it fizzled away, in a blue light, either that or got salvaged into the new towers so more people that just link could use them.
They rebooted the lore to make it more like a shitty generic modern anime. Everything after Skyward Sword got retconned into "didn't actually happen"
>Obviously the Zonai are stand-ins for the typical super advanced ancient race
Oh yeah you mean the super advanced ancient race that they already fucking had in BotW? Zonai are just an asspull they used to sell you the same shit a second time. A new coat of paint to cover the ancient Sheikah with.
I knew zelda was dead when they removed the ocarina
nintendo hasn't been good since wii
The one left from middle clearly looks like he fucks all the girls in the village.
I always thought the Kokiri take on the form that the Deku Tree decides, given they are referred to as the spirits of the forest and how they distinctly faded into view unlike everything else in the game.
The Tree wanted the child that was left to him to fit in, so decided the spirits should look like kids. That tree died and the sprout continued watching the forest. By the time of Wind Waker the tree needed a new way for the forest to grow, Koroks able to blend with nature and with flight akin to sycamore seeds were the choice since no Hylians were anywhere near.
There could well be a game in the future that has multiple Deku trees, one with a forest of Koroks and another of Kokiri.
kokiri and koroks are certainly a kind of fairy, but why arent koroks ever seen hanging out with the "standard" fairies as the kokiri are known to do?
Koroks are too annoying and scared all the fairies away.
The Kokiri were forced to evolve into flying Koroks once the sages flooded Hyrule in the adult timeline
In the child timeline Link brought Malon back to Kokiri Forest and bred the Kokiri out of existence and the deku tree went dormant. Link then built a new temple of time in the lost woods
Also the Kokiri left the forest to go to Lon Lon Ranch and probably begun aging normally, some probably even left the forest forever like Mido who couldn't stand being an incel chud in Link's shadow.
It's over for Kokiri paedos.
I happen to like the Koroks myself and find that octoroks are essentially the same thing as dekus. We have Beedle now so we don't need random grotto merchants...grottos aren't even a thing anymore
>octoroks are essentially the same thing as dekus
they are just octopuses
They spit stuff at you which you can reflect...basically all that dekus did...their deku nuts didn't even react the same as when Link threw them lol
>basically all that dekus did
yes but they aren't dekus
Yeah what I'm saying is that if that's all dekus did was spit stuff at you then octoroks got that covered
Are the Keewit from Skyward Sword also supposed to be pre-Kokiri Kokiri?
...Or are they a completely unrelated irrelevance, like all the rest of the 'new' races from that game?
Oh yeah, those things. I might actually need to replay skyward sword just remember anything beyond battery reminders and time travelling to save some dragons.
squidward shart also introduced shield durability and weapon durability if you were playing with a wiimote lmao, so thank it for all that went wrong with botw
You're supposed to be an adult, stop using that childish naming shit.
Regardless the stamina system is the mechanic carryover that I remember more.
I think the new game has this big ass mole people statues, so at least those guys weren't forgotten.
Oh, the Mogma? Yeah, they were okay I guess (Best of the SS new races, which... isn't saying much at all), my only problem was their stealing of the Goron's niche as the 'Death Mountain Species'. Sticking them underground would be more thematic for what they were.
Actually, I really like the idea Deku Tree made the Kokori to resemble Link.
No idea. They seem to just retcon shit with every game and there’s no rhyme or reason it reminds me of the evil dead movies. Every release is like a soft reboot.
That was Fujibayashi
i really like the design of dekus in OoT. kinda sad they got rid of them as a race
Right after the game that gave their designs the most flexibility.
Deku Scrubs still appeared occasionally in games until Triforce Heroes in 2015, they just weren't in the mainline 2D ones. They were in Minish Cap too as well as more recent spinoffs like Cadence of Hyrule.
They aren't forgotten and abandoned they are just only in games that you didn't play.
They literally only showed up in games that began development prior to WW's release + TriForce Heroes, which is a cheap ass multiplayer game. Cadence was OoT/MM wank made by an outside company. No actual Zelda games after Four Swords Adventures featured them.
>Triforce Heroes doesn't count as a Zelda game that has Deku Scrubs because I don't like it
have a nice day gay stop moving the goalposts, it doesn't matter if "its a cheap ass multiplayer game", it is a first party Nintendo game and has Deku Scrubs, so they aren't forgotten
2015 was 8 years ago.
You're argument was that they show up plenty, just in games people don't play.
My counterargument is that after WW wrapped, there's only one exception. The DS games ignored them, the 3D games ignored them, etc. One game in a span of almost 20 years. The Classic Zora show up more often. It's weird.
the business scrubs in OoT look a lot cooler than the ones in MM imo
The Rito and Zora both have a good variety in appearances in BotW/TotK. The gorons and gerudo don't, but with Gerudo that feels inevitable with them basically just being tall brown women, and I don't know what you would do to the gorons to make them more unique, they're kind of a retarded race to begin with maybe just replace them.
allow their faces and body types to vary a bit more rather than all having the same weird nose, massive legs, and tiny torso
I'm not keen on the proportion fuckery with Zora in BoTW either.
>but with Gerudo that feels inevitable with them basically just being tall brown women
Nah, you could easily vary their bodytypes and looks. We never got an Oracle-Impa shaped one or any really Square or Curvy generics. They just made a default and made old Gerudo that but our of shape.
they evolved into yahahas
lore is not necessary for your sissy training games.
Same reason there aren't Deku Scrubs anymore. Aonuma doesn't like it.
wtf is Aonuma's problem?
That's Fujibayashi being an ALTTP/Awakening fan and not an OoT fan. The Hylia stuff builds off that and he doesn't retread the Triforce much because it's already kinda "done" and has a lot of associated rules later games forgot about. It's easier to just try new things.
I've noticed that most games in OoT's wake built their identity off of it while the games since Skyward Sword focus way more on ALttP.
ALTTP is the definitive 'Triforce' game, though. It originated the backstory of Three Golden Goddesses.
The goddesses was a Koizumi-ism found in the manual. Tanabe's script for the game is what inspired Hylia for SS. And yeah, like I said, Fujibayashi probably feels tired of doing Triforce shit.
>ALttP is THE Triforce game.
>Fuji's first games, Oracle of Seasons/Ages, serves as a follow-up to ALttP and Awakening. It goes over the Triforce stuff and anthropomorphized the goddesses.
>His next game, Minish Cap, gives lip service to the Triforce (goes with calling it "the golden power" as well, another ALttP-ism), but is mostly focused on the surrounding world.
>Skyward Sword gets into the eternal Triforce curse and the initial claiming of the power.
>BotW and TotK ignore it for more Hyrule as a place/weird outside influences stuff.
I'd rather have the triforce again than bestiality with goats.
I don't think that would add anything to TotK.
It'd replace the fact that Zelda's ancestor fucked an animal.
>Fujibayashi lttp fan not oot fan
You're just pulling this straight out of your ass. With BOTW/TOTK they did a soft reboot that doesn't care to adhere to any previous game or timeline arc, because the developers felt like it. They aren't turbo autists who want you to overanalyze and scour every detail for any possible connection to old lore, nor do they give a fuck about those kinds of fans. They're developers doing a job who wanted to do their own thing from a clean slate. I'm disappointed botw/totk aren't good Zelda games, mediocre as fuck IMO, but that's a different story.
My biggest issue is fading away the triforce. That stuff is iconic and the whole hand mark thing from OoT and forward is pure anime kino
Not even the most hardcore zeldafags think this whole hylia lore is cooler than the golden triangle
The sooner you understand Nintendo regrets everything Zelda related prior to BOTW the less you'll suffer. Just forget it. Zelda is now a game for kids to upload clips on tiktok because that's what makes money
>whole hand mark thing from OoT and forward
You mean AoL.
The Zelda timeline and the idea of there being any prior canon in mind gets a lot of flak, but Zelda 2 makes a pretty strong case for them intending the series to span several generations.
The only people who complain about it don't pay attention, they only played a few games and as children so they don't remember. AoL is a sequel, ALTTP is a prequel, OOT is a prequel to ALTTP, this shit didn't manifest out of the blue when SS released, Nintendo has basically been daisy chaining games together since the start.
Hylia sucks dick but I like that they're moving from the Triforce. One thing I hated about Skyward Sword was how the Triforce tied Link, Zelda and Ganon into those roles permanently. BotW looked like they were gonna move from that but alas. I still hope for a neutral Ganondorf or a Zelda that's sharp and rash. Something to mix things up outside moving away from the Ocarina formula.
There's also no reason why you can't have Kokiri, Deku Scrubs and Koroks all in the same game.
You must be a zoomer
While nebulously intentional, TP puts in some pretty clear subtext that there's something "off" about Din from the way Ganon is just blessed with the Triforce of Power. I'm sure it was just "Ganon gained the Triforce because reasons" but having to fight one of the divine goddesses would be nice.
>One thing I hated about Skyward Sword was how the Triforce tied Link, Zelda and Ganon into those roles permanently.
They were tied into those roles since the first game. OoT and LttP are games all about the Triforce. Just because SS had shitty lore doesn't mean that the Triforce should be dismissed altogether.
The Triforce is the MOST important thing in the series and predates even the Master Sword. It is the literal providence of the world. For god's sake, play the games.
>they were tied into those roles since the first game
The first game only has two Triforces and they're more like magic relics than something bound to specific people.
The Triforce has always been used as a magic relic. By LttP, it was established as the source of the world's providence.
Still doesn't change that the Triforce ties Link, Zelda and Ganon together since the very first two games in the series.
Zelda had the Triforce of Wisdom, which is why Ganon kidnaps her
Ganon already had power.
Link gets the Triforce of Courage by Zelda II.
Again, dismissing the Triforce, the very symbol of the series, is wrong. It has always been the most important artefact in the series and it's iconography can be seen everywhere.
And the second game has you rebuild the third. Shit was the entire point of the plot.
SS blows but there's no reason to get rid of the thing entirely just to not have to treat them as completely rigid roles and strict character archetypes. that's the one of the strengths of zelda's storytelling being vague and malleable
>One thing I hated about Skyward Sword was how the Triforce tied Link, Zelda and Ganon into those roles permanently
That's not entirely true though. Skyward Sword and onwards seem intent on making Link just "some guy" while Ganon and Zelda are like Amaterasu and Susanoo having their little god quarreland Link just happens to be on her side.
Even TotK does this. There's a courage Dragon and both Zelda and Ganondorf takes turns huffing magic goat farts while Link is just...there.
>I hated about Skyward Sword was how the Triforce tied Link, Zelda and Ganon into those roles permanently
It wasn't the Triforce that did that. The Triforce was used in that game to kill the Imprisoned (Demise in that weird ugly form) and that was it. No, what tied Link/Zelda/Ganon together was the karmic cycle that Demise speaks about before dying that continiously spawns Ganondorf over and over in order to try to take over the world.
I bet people would be more okay with the constant Korok puzzles if instead they were bratty e-boi Kokiri. Though them giving you their shit would be even weirder then.
>local hero runs across countryside collecting shit from 1000 e-bois
>instead of torturing backpack koroks you get people making comfy thrones to escort them
what would hetsu be replaced with?
A Saria reference.
he can still be a big fat tree dude. kokiris and trees go hand in hand.
Big tiddy MILF
You should drink their pee and gain more inventory slots right away
If it were something like
where Hestu was still around it could be his shit, or the Deku Tree's waste... sap. Remember they are still forest spirits, giving you a prize that's just tree shit would be well within their fae childish dickery.
besides he kind of looks like the original great deku tree with his big huge eyebrows.
koroks would be alright as a companion to kokiris, having them together would be interesting.
reminds me of the male/female monster comparisons where the male is some gnarled beast and the female cute girl with cat ears and a tail.
Imagine if they just did that with kokiri/koroks
you want to turn kokiris into elins?
no but now you mention it, yes
Urotan is pretty neat.
thanks for reminding me the Ages maku tree was cute and lovable
nobody is talking about how ganondorf lose the pointy ears for no reason, this game lore is so bad
Because they deliberately went back to and updated Ganondorf's OOT look? He had round ears in OOT.
then the Rito shouldn't exist? Also, the other gerudo has pointy ears, 6 years and they can't even bother to be consistent in their own game
He has round ears yet the rest of the Gerudo in the past have pointed ears
Does anyone have that copypasta of ganon raping the kokiri to extintion?
Should i emulate WW?
How much will i miss out on if that's my first Zelda game?
Start with OoT
You will get filter from finding the triforce pieces.
It's one of the least fun Zelda games.
Because of randomizers, it's probably the zelda that I've played the most, followed by MM and OoT for the same reason.
Even if you consider it the least fun zelda, that still puts it on a high bar compared to a lot of other games.
Zelda lands itself perfectly to randomizers though, it's almost cheating.
Just play through them in order
If you get FILTEREDRAW by the first two games you'll still be able to get through LA and ALTTP, then OOT and MM are easy street. WW is great and the randomizer is even better
emulate WW HD.
it has the Quick Sail and removes 3 of the Triforce Charts.
Wind Waker is bad. Just play the latest Zelda like everyone else. It’s fun, especially if you don’t know what you’re doing
Kokiri and Koroks are still the same people, the difference is that Kokiri have some more human like personalities while Koroks are just retarded. They both are connected to the Deku tree and don't age. I agree with anons that they changed them to not look like Peter Pan wannabes.
Why is fujibayashi is charge bros….it’s all fucking over. Koizumi should of been given the keys the to franchise not this hack. Imagine the kino we could of had
Man Koroks could be redeemed if they made any interesting design to be Link’s ally. And possibly be a Sage of Earth/Forest in the new game. They clearly have self-defense capabilities since Koroks are comfortable venturing out into Hyrule on their own all the time.
>what about Hestu
He’s a flaming homo they could come up with a cooler design than him.
they should redesign the kokiris, but make them all wear animal clothes instead of peter pan all the tiime
>shoots arrow at "boar"
kokiris? no longer relevant
sheika? replaced by furgays
you will eat the korok seeds
Triforce? Sorry kid, never heard of it
Is Moto really the guy to get annoyed with over this, he just rolls up, climbs over a few things, whacks a guy with a stick and then plays the game for a bit.
Aonuma is the only one with the balls to hide a project from him long enough that he can't say no to something he doesn't like, but I don't trust this won't lead to forcing bad decisions.
I don't think I've ever read any interview where Miyamoto gave the team a good idea which seems really weird to me, all interviews I've seen of teams hes worked with call him a pants on head retard trying to force horrible decisions that would have probably sank entire projects like when he wanted OoT to be an exclusively first person game.
>like when he wanted OoT to be an exclusively first person game
hahaha what, how have I never heard this before
Nigget Shiggy is the one who came up with the triforce
>saria is a piece of bark with leaf
>rauru is a goatman
>ruto has no tits and gets hairtail
>impa becomes japanese
>nabooru doubles in height and muscle
>darunia stays exactly the same
Darunia smokes weed
>darunia stays exactly the same
Can’t fix perfection
My gurss is children serving as avatars for the spirits of the forest doesn't fit very well with the Oriental vision of what forest spirits look like and since Nintendo has been trying to make Zelda more oriental in its approach towards lore and aesthetic, that would be my hypothesis.
zonai are mayans
True, but their spirituality and architecture is very Shinto inspired.
>Fuck yeah I'm having fun exploring this
>Fuck yeah i'm having fun exploring this
>Fuck yeah i'm having fun exploring this
>This is fun
>This is fun
>This is fun
I would rather be doing anything else. This fucking sucks, it isn't difficult, it isn't complicated, it's just "do this physics shit in an area that isn't interesting to look at, where you no longer have the freedom to use the set you want to use, where you are at the whim of the game's janky physics" and the boss fight was the worst of the four, which is saying something considering how shit the wind temple's boss was.
Fire temple is the absolute lowest point of the game for me, it's just a poorly designed boring unfun place.
Thankfully it's also the easiest to skip with climbing and ascend
BoTW and ToTK take a whole lot from Ghibli.
The depths are the sea of decay from Naussica, the sky islands are Laputa, and Link's corrupted arm is straight out of Mononoke.
There's always been Ghibli influence in Zelda but it's never been this explicit before and the Korok designs are part of this, even though they originated in Wind Waker.
The guardians are also pretty much the robots from Laputa.
>looks nothing alike
>everything was invented by ghibli
I hate zoomers
The bendy segmented limbs look quite alike.
The use of eye lasers with a creepy targeting warning is perfectly alike.
The entire concept of ancient war robots, covered in moss and grime from the passage of time, hellbent on blasting anything they detect to "protect" the ruins they guard, is quite similar in general.
Perhaps if you saw what it looks like on all fours?
>gibhli invented the jomon period japanese art and aesthetic.
stop watching anime and consooming vidya exclusively anon.
I'm pretty sure Ghibli invented jomon-era war robots that shoot people with laser beams.
>completely different robot style looking like a western knight
Now you're just being disingenuous.
I'm not the one claiming laser beams on robots is a ghibli thing
sorry but you got btfo. just take the L buddy
I'm claiming laser EYE beams on decayed ancient mass produced warmechs from a forgotten era of prosperity that guard ruins with indiscriminate laser blasts is a ghibli thing. With gangly segmented limbs.
It's really quite specific.
Yeah agreed, anyone who didn't immediately think of castle in the sky when we saw the botw trailers probably just didnt see it
Yeah they're completely cringe as fuck
Done with them
The Zonai Constructs also added onto the Laputa robot references since you have some attending to long abandoned gardens in the sky.
Because they're boring.
Anyone got the image of the wojak using the ultrahand?
Mido was that bad, I guess
lmao that face is for zelda enjoyers too champ, do you really think fucking zelda is any less gayy cringy onions boy jap crap than fucking Ghibli?
I just wish the Koroks had any character or side stories instead of just being collectables
Kokiri were literal Koroks turned into Hylian looking kids so Link had people that looked like him growing up.
They've been in one game in reality.
Why did they erase the Mogmas?
why did SS introduced new pointless races?
So that Hyrule Historia could add nonsense about these becoming Kokori and Parella becoming Zora
What happened to the Kokiri in TP?
There are Kokiri markings all over the first dungeon but they're nowhere to be found.
people say the monkeys are kokiris but they took another form
since kokiris in OoT can appear and dissapear at will, people assumed the deku tree can make them change forms or something
I got the impression that the monkeys didn't originally live there. They just found the abandoned tree and moved in.
Because a town full of eternal e-bois appeals to the male fantasy.
Because it's impossible to get though the opening of OoT without having to release your semen every five minutes.
>Young Link wears the female Kokiri outfit.
What did they mean by this?
Saria rised him
He also doesn't anything below
>Saria raised Link, so she's basically his mom
>Saria would always hang out and play with Link, so she's his best friend
>Saria also has an obvious crush on him
She's best girl.
I miss her.
I was legitimately sad as fuck about her dying in OOT, I was that kid that kinda didn't want to leave her on that bridge where she says goodbye at the start of the game too.
No one died. They just got turned into sages.
Anon, the implication is pretty strong that everyone died in their dungeon. Saria in particular is very sad in her scenes.
They were captured not killed.
Yeah I'm sure the Goron-eating dragon who was specifically revived to eat more Gorons did NOT eat the Goron that entered its room without the hammer that kills Goron-eating dragons.
Yes, that makes perfect sense.
Anon, why did they become sages if they died? Answer it
Their spirits remained. Rauru is the first sage you meet and he's been dead for so long that he's called ancient.
Did you really need this explained to you?
>everyone died in their dungeon
the maidens in crystals in LttP were said to be descendants of the Sages.
ALttP introduced a metric ton of lore that essentially got thrown out. Remember the whole "Imprisoning War" where the Master Sword is forged and Ganon is sealed away the first time? Now the game where the Master Sword is made and the game where Ganon gets sealed are two separate games, and the Master Sword is technically already forged at the start.
Link impregnated Saria, Impa, Nabooru, Zelda and Ruto, Darunia has a son, Rauru probably has descendants as well,
The sages LttP talks about are different sages from the ones in OoT.
>How do you know that?
All the maidens, the descendants from the sages, are hylians.
The intro literally shows them.
they need to do a resident evil style remake (but good) thats just updated graphics and more detailed environments and more fleshed out missions.
and this needs to be in it as saria didnt want to ascend without seeing him again and they have a tearful goodbye
>Reason why Saria wears a unique outfit is because she gave hers as a hand-me down to Link, and made her outfit herself.
mods are asleep, post cute kokiri shotas
gay as fuck
The moderators are awake. Post fierce stalfos
he is an honorari one
INTENSE SEX WITH KOKIRI GIRLS
CUMMING INSIDE KOKIRI GIRLS
NEVER AGING KOKIRI GIRLS
this is why kokiris can't come back
I miss Saria
>Throws ocarina away for brand new royal edition one
We all do
Because people kept lusting after them
I feel that the the Divine Beast Medoh was originally called Midoh named after Mido. Kokiri's were slated to appear in BotW in the concept artbook. Ritos didn't even exist yet.
Reminder that the forest medallion is shaped like a fan, the forest section of ganon's castle has wind puzzles, and there was originally a wind temple instead of a forest temple
>Kokiri's were slated to appear in BotW in the concept artbook
Champion concepts included a Kokiri with a whip.
Sheikah were originally brown, I'm guessing this predates the redesign into Japanese people.
>Sheikah were originally brown
Dumbass. They were a kind of Shinobi/Hashashin hybrid with brown skin, red eyes, and white hair. That was their original look. They removed the Hashashin style along with the dark skin (presumably because someone thought that stepped on the Gerudo's toes despite them not doing the assassin thing) to make them purely Japanese.
>Dumbass. They were a kind of Shinobi/Hashashin hybrid with brown skin, red eyes, and white hair.
History rewriter. shut the fuck up. She's tanned at best
Anon, what do you think a tan does to your skin tone?
Not make them black gay
I said 'brown' not 'black', anon.
she isn't brown
Anon, you're blind. Her skin is browner than everyone else that's not a Gerudo in that game. Also here's Zelda larping a member of her race. Notice how she darkens her skin?
it's a very saturated red, like when you go to the beach and get burned, not brown
>tanning means youre black
He's an amerimutt
He thinks brown is the new white
meh, I honestly think my idea
A cuck is someone who allows his wife to fuck other men, how is morongay a cuck exactly?
Because both Aonuma and especially Fujibayashi are humongous gays who don't actually like Zelda.
This. Every game he has created in zelda, all his interviews had him going
>I dont really like this part of Zelda. Or this one. Or this.
I also think one of them is a literal furfag, considering what they did to the Rito, how every prominent Rito NPC is a male, and how they added a prominent goat furry male as the founder of Hyrule and ancestor of Zelda.
I find it weird we've reached an era where Zelda is now complete japshit but still hates dicky but here we are.
Riju in botw, and she's still young looking in totk and gets my dick going
the only jap shit is the gerudo slowly becoming more and more japanese for some reason
Bro, have you seen the entirety of kakariko?
They probably wanted to distance themselves from pedophiles
>They probably wanted to distance themselves from pedophiles
they literally devolved into the koroks in lore.
They turned into the Koroks because it made getting around on the Great Sea easier. It was never said that it's their true form, nor is it ever said that the Kokiri only existed because OOT Link was raised in the fortress.
Literal fucking headcanon passed around as fact.
The kokiri became koroks in wind waker. this is indisputable fact.
The kokiri have not reappeared in any subsequent zelda game, while the koroks have. this is indisputable fact.
There was one in WW.
NOT SO FAST
I'm aware. It sucks.
>Replaced dodongos with lame ass frgos
They erased the entire Zelda Mythology in the first place.
>Master Sword isn't unbreakable anymore
>Rauru is the first king of Hyrule
>Rito and Zora have always existed together
>Koroks were koroks the whole time, kokiris never existed
>The first Link is a weird Zonai/Hylian monster
>Only things that still remain are Hylia and Fi, everything else was retconned.
>Ganondorf has been around since the beginning of Hyrule
>The Triforce might as well not exist
I was hoping that TotK would bring back the Minish since TotK's Director (Hidemaro Fujibayashi) also directed Minish Cap.
They're so cute, small, and silly, I love em.
Dude. They look exactly like humans/hylians with bird features despite coming from fish people. Even if you buy the whole "can't live in saltwater" thing (also stupid, river zoras have been a thing for longer than the OoT zoras), that part makes 0 sense.
Nigget it's literally divine intervention not actual evolution of a species, how they end up looking matters not because it's literally what the gods willed.
The point was to take everyone out of the bottom of the ocean and river Zora's have been monsters more than they have been NPCs.
Doesn't need to make sense, it's a forced change
Because they realized that they made a peter pan race and might get sued. Even aside from that, they made a race of children that never grow up and that makes for some uncomfortable questions.
like what? they already implied the deku tree birth them so they don't have sex
These are your dodongos now, say something nice to them
I was so certain these would be Deku Toads.
the better question is how and why bipedal fish evolved into bird people with distinctly human features. and the reason was because it was water everywhere.
I swear to God, nobody played the game and only watched some let's play or a streamer skipping the dialogue
>wwfag trying to defend bad writting
Is literally stated in the game zoomers, are you unable to fucking read?
I guess now that I think about it Medli's the only one who looks really human. The rest are completely feathered. Which begs some disturbing questions especially in a game where a little girl was in love with a moblin.
Look at Komali before and after he gets the scale.
Weird, the dim lighting in his room almost made me think he had brown feathers already, but official art shows him skin toned.
The Rito grow feathers after being blessed by Valoo at their coming of age. They're still in the process of evolving.
*devolving into furshit
They just look like native Americans to me. Much racist, very bad and needs to be rectified by making them generic ass bird people.
Bird people it's better
Only if you're a furry.
Why are the boys so ungodly ugly and dopey while all of the girls give me a boner
This seems like a good place to post this.
will this explode my computer
Yes, but in a cool way.
Next year, hopefully.
God I can't wait to see what fucking mods majora will get
I wonder if it will be possible to get the 3ds version fishing back ported in
>fucking mods majora will get
It will get close to nothing because virtually anything you'd want to do with Zelda from the 64 can be backported into OoT without much issue and OoT just makes for a far better base for mods.
Having said that we'll likely get a flood of mods for OoT soon because a bunch of hackers are fed up with the main devs and how long they're taking to make certain kind of mods possible, so people are figuring out ways to import data from decomp to allow scene editing
When majoras mask
Regardless of what you think about OoT, can we agree that it had one of the best artworks in the series? This shit is SOUL.
OOT and MM both have amazing and distinct art. Definitely among the best overall.
The most notable artstyle the series had to me will always be TP's, because it looks so much better on paper than in motion and I've always felt like we were sort of robbed.
The art style is pretty unique, very iconic. Also loved Ruto's budding e-boi fish tits.
I really like MM's shading, personally.
You subhumans have been posting videos of yourselves torturing them for several weeks now
Where is the old man that hangs out in caves?
>play new, 2020 Zelda
>The best weapon Link uses to beat an actual dungeon boss is a literal fire hydrant
Why precisely did Nintendo decide to reboot the series? It seems like it came out of nowhere.
It absolutely didn't. TP was advertised up and down as being the last in that style of game, SS was purposefully a deconstruction.
>TP was advertised up and down as being the last in that style of game
Source "I was there." They talked up how ungodly long that game was going to be specifically because it was going to be the last of the "Link to the Past" style games, they wanted it packed full so it'd make a good sendoff. I'm not your Google secretary, look it up yourself if you want to.
It might go understated nowadays because back then everyone's immediate response was "bull fucking shit" and it's only with hindsight on our side and the BotW train running full steam that it turned out to be completely true.
I don't mean in terms of gameplay. I meant you know, even basic elements of the series, such as the Triforce, the Gods, Ganondorf, everything has been retconned into oblivion.
A lot of people are coping by trying to fit BoTW/Tears into it somehow by having BoTW be part of some Buddhist circular history shit and Tear's goat fucker history happening between SS and MC (the two earliest games in the timeline.)
chuds of the Dingdong