Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
they were the hot thing only a few years ago but more and more just switch to Air cooled even over AIO
Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
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Gee, I wonder why people don't want water near their expensive electronics that they use to play their games.
distilled water doesn't damage computer components
you can wash your motherboard in distilled water even
it's no longer distilled once it hits the dust inside
water causes short circuits that fry your components
The failure rates on water coolers were ridiculous, and overclocking was a niche of a niche
>Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
It didn't. AIOs are more popular than ever
>they were the hot thing only a few years ago but more and more just switch to Air cooled even over AIO
Source? High-end modern CPUs basically require a 360 rad for optimal boosting
>Source: my sphincter
How easily you forget there's an entire youtube industry of people telling rig builders to stop putting radiators in with the return above the pump
risk:reward is not worth it.
price not worth it/
extra maintenance not worth it.
This
Plus they aren't really that necessary anymore, fans are getting better
The FANS aren't getting that much better, the CPU's are running more efficiently and thus run cooler at max capacity.
AIOs used to be ridiculously expensive, now it's the other way around. Both are pretty much overkill unless you're running a 13th gen i9.
temps arent different from a regular noctua fan
why the FUCK does noctua insist on their 1 shitty color scheme
soul
they've since released black (soulless) variants though.
they make different colors
at least they arent covered in leds.
These guys are so bulky I love them
they don't but you'll pay like $10 more for a coat of paint on them
but why would you, the shit brown is soul
goes with biege case and my biege crt and my biege mouse and my biege keyboard THAT'S WHY
free advertising every time some gay posts a pic of their rig and people know at a glance what kind of cooler it is
so itll match my gpu
Who gives a shit about the color of a fucking fan. Just paint it or something you vain gay.
why do you insist one using one fucking brain cell
they've made black versions for like 6 years now
>filtered over the color of a fan
function over form
Those colors are soul. Its proof of someone who knows their shit and has good taste in high quality.
cope, it looks like some shit from 30 years ago
I'd rather have beige and brown over more rainbows than a pride parade.
Good.
And that's a good thing
Why do you look at your computer instead of playing games?
The whole fucking case could be brown and I wouldn't give a shit.
they have "chromax.black" line now
Because it is immediately recognizable. You see a pic of any PC hardware and notice a block of pale beige/dark brown, you IMMEDIATELY know it's a Noctua cooler. No need for a logo or anything. How many brands can compete with that?
what the fuck does the color matter. no one is going to see the fan
Pohatu was the best girl, fuck Galifags and her manshoulders.
Not a FAN of earthy tones for tech?
They sell one in ugly color and one in pretty one, make the pretty one more expensive but you get hooked by the cheaper one and then you buy the more expensive one.
Marketing 101: providing 'inferior' version for cheap but make it unattractive enough to make people want to buy the more expensive one after the initial hook.
I do agree that their brown/beige is ugly as sin in any modern build but the grey/dark grey ones they make are hands down the coolest looking non-rgb fans on the market
Some people don't like having to put literal bricks in the middle of their cases
yeah most non whites hate putting things that work well in their pc.
People realized you still need fans to cool the water, so why bother.
It's more like custom loops stopped being popular for obvious reasons. AIOs are pretty popular still
>more and more just switch to Air cooled even over AIO
it's the other way around tho. good aio is around 120 and a high end air cooler costs basically the same for worse temps. custom loop is just too much of a hassle for most people and was never really widespread
Air coolers perform just as good for less money and work.
for me, it's the scythe fuma 2
This is my first and only cooler I've bought. Still serves me very well.
I have a Kotetsu but it barely can keep up with my overclocked FX-8300.
I was wrong I have an Ashura. They don't have it on their website anymore. Also Kabuto was a good one.
open loops are for enthusiasts.
most people just buy AIOs because they cba
What about immersion cooling, anyone here courageous enough to immerse their PC in mineral oil?
I would but I/O seems like a pain in the ass plus it seems like it would attract a disgusting layer of dust.
i watched that youtube video. the liquid gets dirty fast.
Will be a constant maintenance pain in the ass unless you live in a cleanroom (you don’t).
lol.
this is why i'll never use a custom loop. I'm a lazy gay who only cleans his pc once you can scrape the dust and lint off in one piece. and I move my PC around regularly. not a big deal for air cooled or AIO. with a custom loop something like this eventually happens if you don't maintain it.
>Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
They didn't. Just look at PC part picker. Too many people buy AIOs they don't need, because a beefy $40 air cooler is just as thermally efficient for 99% of use cases. Especially gayming when most games barely utilize 4 cores.
The real question is where did black cases without a transparent side panel go? There's like 3 manufacturers with decent looking cases (with good airflow), and one with a place to mount an optical drive.
I saw a motherboard once with a jumper for setting the system to expect being cryogenically cooled
I wonder how many people actually do this
Even the fags that do it, have liquid nitrogen for like an hour or two and after they finish filming its never used again.
Ideal computer has no moving parts.
Custom loops are both expensive and time consuming to set up, especially if you're going with anything of than soft plastic tubing.
This in conjunction with AIO's being a good enough stand-in for your average user who might need them is the reason why they've fallen from favor.
Outside of extreme overclocking, practically no one.
Watercooling was always a meme and components are huge anyway there's no point in trying to reduce size like that. Fans do a well enough job without having to worry about them too much and if one breaks down you just replace it instead of an entire unit.
I had one on my 2014 build, worked good but was a pain to install. No reason to get one really, just more work
>watercooled pc fall out of favor
Literally everyone who overclocks needs water cooling.
>only few years ago
Fuck are you talking about child sandybridge was like 15 years ago and you wanted water-cooling for the easy over locking. Hasn't been necessary since then unless you're building ITX.
tfw my aio finally died after 10 years of usage, i'm switching to a low profile air cooler and reassign that old gtx970 rig into a win7 era machine
Unnecessary. Air cooling is already extremely effective and has less to go wrong.
I'd still prefer we went more to full passive setups for everything. Even less to go wrong and quieter.
>I'd still prefer we went more to full passive setups for everything.
won't happen because you either need shit tier laptop hardware that can be passively cooled or basically turn the whole case into a radiator, make it at least big tower size and it will cost ludicrous amount of money, weigh a shitton and likely need side cooling anyway
Or... Just not push the chips to the point where they need cooling.
I live in a hot humid shithole, switching to AIO reduced my temps by 10+ degrees
AIOs became cheaper with close enough performance to a custom loop. The only appeal would be GPU cooling but those have decent stock solutions these days. I don’t subscribe to the notion that all watercooling is in decline, just custom loops.
It didn't. Water cooling is more common now than ever. Hell I bought a water cooler recently.
https://www.quora.com/Can-distilled-water-conduct-electricity
Last I checked watercooling is dead because overclocking is dead. It's not worth pushing an extra 150-200w on your system if in reality you're only gaining 3-4 fps in your AAA game. What you want to do instead is undervolt because it allows the boost algorithm to automatically clock higher while running cooler and quieter. No point in having watercooling if your CPU is only chugging 85w in games.
>retard uses colouring
>clogs up the copper heatfins
Because people suddenly realized that water gets warm
You can easily install a AK600 or NH-15 and not think about your cooler for 6+ years as long as you change the thermal paste. Water cooling and even AIOs have so much bullshit to deal with that I'd rather just buy the old reliable.
I'm seriously considering building a pc inside a mini fridge.
condensation kills your pc
your minifridge is going to get overwhelmed on modern hardware just sitting at idle and turn into a hot box.
there's a reason why people don't do this, you're retarded.
it will die either immediately or within a few months due to condensation.
>pump dies
>cpu burns out before you notice
pump is connected to cpu header and if the pump dies then fan shows as 0rpm and your bios throws a cpu fan error preventing boot.
A thermalright peerless assassin cools better than all those tubes. Water cooling is a fucking meme.
modern CPU's are designed to immediately hit their thermal limit upon utilization and are pretty much non-overclockable
nowadays the difference between air cooling, AIO's and custom loops are a couple hundred mhz just from additional thermal headroom
that said watercooling is typically infinitely quieter nowadays due to fan curve typically being based upon coolant temperature
Every time I see someone using an AIO system for their cpu and I ask "why" no one ever has a good answer.
Its just "eh I saw it on sale" or something to that effect.
If they got it on sale then that's all the answer you need. AIO and air are close enough in quality for price to be a reason to pick one over the other.
if your cpu temps are lower it means your fan/pump rpm are lower which means quieter pc. also heat is being soaked properly by the radiator instead of dumping all of it immediat3ly into your case like an air cooler. there's a heat of exchange process and aios are way more efficient at it which benefits your whole system. if my ambient case temperature is lower overall it means my RAM/GPU temps are also lower and I can OC them more for greater FPS.
All of that is irrelevant
If you want better gpu temps use a waterblock for the GPU
then you need to build your entire system around hosting a reservoir and all that which adds way more cost and complexity than just getting an AIO GPU like a Sapphire Toxic.
do you not have exhaust fans installed to your case or something?
the heat doesn't simply sit there on a properly fitted case.
read moron:
>there's a heat of exchange process
air is much worse at transferring heat than water.
Blog post, because my parents were both heavy smokers, had shedding pets and were dirty as fuck.
My air-cooled heatsink got caked in tar and dust so fucking quick, I had to constantly clean and dust it daily. But it got to a point where no amount of air pressure could clear it out, it wasn't dispersing the heat anymore and could overheat while the PC was idle.
Instead of pulling the air cooler out and giving it a bath, I got an H60 AIO and I never again had to worry about dust for the next three years until I moved out. Shit was far quieter as well.
Liquid coolers can handle shittier conditions. I've been back on an air cooler for the past few years (because I haven't installed the new AIO I have sitting by me) and what a surprise, I haven't had to worry about dust for years because I'm not in a dirty environment anymore.
>CPU while idle 60c
>CPU while gaming 65c
This is my use case, is it bad ?
60 idle is bad but 65 gaming is good, I honestly expected mine to shoot past 90 but it never did. Are you using AMD as well?
>Are you using AMD as well
5900x, since I've installed a 4090 idle temp worsened as the card is a little below 50c idle and warm up the whole case.
Open loop water cooling was never "in the favor". It was always meant for hobbyists who wanted to push their overclocks to the absolute limit. AIOs are nice looking but they're honestly an overpriced meme product that people get because they're aesthetically pleasing. I honestly doubt many people even OC these days, felt like that culture died out over a decade ago.
overclocking is dead because hardware is built to push as hard as it can until it thermal throttles now.
everything is already redlining by default.
what heat transfer medium do you think your radiator is using to dump heat?
>what heat transfer medium do you think your radiator is using to dump heat?
weird post as you're implying that you don't comprehend the logic behind heat saturation
now show the actual temperatures.
nobody cares about steady state times except for retards that jack off over benchmarks.
why are you cherry picking the one that throttled more when the second and third on that chart are also air coolers? you aren't going to miss 40 fucking mhz.
Lot of effort for something you will upgrade in a year because consoom
Both times I've bought an AIO, the pump started failing after warranty expired
never buying watercooling again
I am fully satisfied with with my deepcoll assassin 3. Water cooling is meme, always was, always will be.
>Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
If things contininue as they are now, it will soon become mandatory.
Unless you wan to buy a full tower for your mid-level Series 50
what's the best for a silence pc? air or water aio?
I have a macho rev b cooler on my CPU and it's so silent all the time. Even when I'm gaming.
Just get a well-ventilated case with fans that make little noise.
water aio can help but mostly because it helps you set up a good airflow
AIO.
Still requires the same number of fans. You just need quiet fans either way.
why some thermal gel or whatever doesn't exist like some substance similar in amount of heat capacity to water but not a liquid?
I imagine the liquid nature of the substance is inherently tied to its ability to transfer heat
ive got a fully custom build and ive done zero maintenance to it since july. build stuff properly and it wont ever fuck up
>July
Still got some month left. full cleaning once a year is the minimum
just vacuum your damn room bro, if you need to undust your pc every 12 months you must be living in a sandpit
The price to performance ratio makes no sense.
It's for people who has money coming out of their asses yeah
Said people also buy the most powerful GPUs whenever they come out too
Will this be enough, bros?
will it ever be enough?
Well, will it?
For what?
For cooling.
i bet you can't wait to play minecraft rtx with 9k textures at silky smooth 22 fps
It's mostly for rendering tbqh.
SLI also fell out of favor. I had dual 770s awhile back because I had bought one and then later instead of getting a 970 I thought SLI 770s would be better.
It's the microstutter that killed it iirc
>spend $$$$ for 2 GPUs
>had to deal with microstutter bullshit
>SLI
>gold EVGA 770's
>stack of HDD's that blocks all notable airflow from front intake
>4 sticks of DDR3
absolutely based
None of this stuff matters except SLI causing microstutter.
Because they look fucking gay
The hardest buyer's remorse I ever had was when I swapped out my completely silent and highly effective Noctua cooler for a water cooler than cost 5x more. It didn't really keep temps any lower, and while not loud, there was much more noticable noise from the motor and water rushing through the pipes. Sold it a week later on ebay for almost half I paid for it.
>the hot thing
heh
I bought a pre built because I'm a retard that knows little about computers, and about a year and a half lster my pc makes this nonstop clicking sound and also gets super hot and I'm 100% it's the AIO dying and getting clogged. Could I just as easily replace it with a fan or am I screwed?
literal fucking stock cooler:
free with your cpu
just werks
spray some air on it once a year
watercooling:
expensive
annoying to maintain
if it fails you're fucked
>Why did watercooled pc fall out of favor?
i dunno man, it's a mystery
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Why the fuck does this keep happening
You are shadow banned
That’s highly unlikely
So it was my image. Anyway all I wanted to say was Noctua is pure soul. The bunking man’s brand.
>watercooling your PC will easily increase your budget by a third at least
>watercooling only makes sense with overclocking in mind
>OCing your PC might give you a 5% performance increase in games if you're lucky
I don't know man, it's truly a mistery!
Manufacturers figured out how to make their own version of the Hyper 212 Evo and even improve on it. For less than $100 you can get an air cooler that'll keep even high end CPUs at reasonable temps so long as you've got good airflow, and the heatsinks themselves have zero maintenance cost since it's literally just a block of metal. Meanwhile water coolers are expensive and full water coolers require a lot of skill to install and maintain. It's no surprise to me that air coolers are becoming more popular.
I'm rocking a DeepCool AK620 with some Noctua fans and my 13th Gen i9 has never gone past 80 degrees.