Why did you stop playing Path of Exile?
Why did you stop playing Path of Exile?
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because it's bad now
>tee hee we're not going to do dev manifestos anymore because everyone gets mad when we do game altering nerfs to shit and don't tell anyone, tee hee
sss
They're not going to do the problem solution shit now either. I guess they don't understand that people don't like the shit they are doing, no the way they write the changelog
>I guess they don't understand that people don't like the shit they are doing
they understand just fine
because every fucking manifesto is like this, EVERY TIME
>Problem: there is no problem
>Solution: create problem
>repeat x100
GGG FUCKING SUCKS
>no the way they write the changelog
Their changelogs were always filled with passive-aggressive remarks aimed at the players. They could never hide their hatred.
Because all PoE is
>kill all mobs as they come into your screen
>for 10000 hours
It just gets boring after a while you know
Is this the 'xyz was never good' thread?
and D2 avoided it how?
>and D2 avoided it how?
By not trying to become a lifestyle. Baal grinding was a choice a handful of autists made, but for the vast majority of players Diablo 2 was a game that simply had an ending.
PoE went all in for Baal grinder audience. They made endgame far more varied, but the endgame grind became th actual game that they expect you to play forever.
you don't seem to realize how stupid you are, but you are in fact extremely stupid.
Mate, you're the one running in a hamster wheel by playing a genre designed to hook you on a primal level.
That isn't even why your argument is shit. Diablo 2 was the same hamster wheel.
/poeg/ is full of NPD autists like him plus trolls that are sometimes funny
Touch grass, mazie.
>and D2 avoided it how?
Most ARPGs avoided this fate. PoE just became so bloated, this was the end result.
You just summed up every ARPG. Congrats, genius.
Yes. You are beginning to understand.
I played through the story once in 2016 or whatever. Took about 8 hours, was fine. Apparently you just do this over and over again to play a league or something. Sounds horrible.
Because act 5-10 came out and completely changed the core game for the worse.
Also this, old lore >>> nulore.
Quite apart from 'fight maligoro/doedre/sharvonne like 7 times', the gods reappearing thing was very cliche and Sin is a chuuni fuck
my bro, ive never seen anyone give a shit about the PoE world/lore other than myself. when they got rid of the old forsaken masters it was irrecoverable forever.
>See what power maligario gets from tapping into a tiny fraction of the old god in the mountain
>The gods that awaken and you go onto fight are like ants in comparison
Kinda feels like a joke calling them gods.
the beast isn't a god. it's more like a god-eater. it was created to suppress all the gods, so naturally it would be more powerful than they are.
Too much gambling, shitfuck of a balance and retarded meta, and bad performance via preloading shaders.
This too.
Dr2 came out
>seasons
dropped
i opened the talent tree and closed the program
Game has just got too much shit going on.
If they wanted to make servers that were just the game as it was 5 years ago and never gave them updates I would probably play that.
Chris showed is ignorance to the world and must pay the price.
I don't really want to suck CEO cock but he's really one of the genuine ones.
Are you seriously judging an adult for not knowing zoomer speak?
>taking a shitpost at face value in 2023
Yes dipshit, I want Chris to step down as CEO because he was confused by the "-ussy" meme. Holy shit.
more so for being unable to figure it out through context and having to ask. cope and seethe chris
He was after the bexussy
witchussy
templussy
shadussy
sciussy
rangussy
Marussy
Duelussy
>shadussy
i need examples, is this about the amogus gayry or something else?
Last league felt bad
Leagues too long now, 3mo was good
Balance is wonky, can't seem to make a hipster build that can do endgame anymore (and I've made several in the past)
When I opened the talent tree
trying to juice a map on ps4 is suffering
also no keyboard and mouse support in twenty fucking twenty three
>"While there are of course some small nerfs, 3.21 is most definitely not a nerf-fest."
I wonder what's the break-off point for people who believe things like this and those who know what's about to come
Anyone not reading massive nerfs out of it is a lost cause. They are going to fuck you over and won't tell until held at gunpoint after the massive fiasco back then.
Even plebbit is already calling them out on that bullshit. Pretty much anyone who played PoE for more than 3 leagues knows that the very line in the announcment means giga nerfs. Poison is gonna get dunked on in at least 3 ways if not more.
gpu market went to shit and I didn't want to push my old gpu anymore. plus I ain't got time for that shit.
>enjoy build
>build nerfed
>find new build i enjoy less
>build nerfed
>shit bosses
>shit leagues
>shit leveling/acts
>no automatic buy/sell shit making you waste portals
>rng depends on how much money you waste on the game
You tell me shit willson
forgot
>lets make enemies take forever to die
>no automatic buy/sell shit making you waste portals
This one is probably my biggest gripe with the game being a new player.
I didn't. The other arpgs are shit
Because it's shit.
/poeg/ might be the worst general on /vg/
wowg was worse since it was only e-retards general
nah because it's mostly just a bunch of dudes who want to like something but can't because of a bald fucking retard commiserating together
It's not a delusional retard general like WoW's
That's not including THAT one, right?
Is THAT one the katawa shoujo one or the GW 2 one? Both are a specific kind of turbo autism that I would not wish upon my worst enemy.
Actually probably true. Worse than any discord. It's a bunch of obsessive angry schizos. Legitimately mentally ill idiots.
that one goes to /xivg/, nothing but a bunch of furfags and homosexuals
/tosg/ it's literally 2 retards talking to each other, no one plays tree of savior anymore it's just 2 dudes bumping a thread with vpns
hah. not even close
Not even sure why it exists or what they even talk about. No one replies to each other on that general, it is just all random posts like some chatGPT.
It's addicts who ran out of meth yelling at walls
It exists to post news about Diablo 4 and Last Epoch at this point
/gsg/ is literally schizo chud filled thread, its honestly single worst regular thread i have seen on this site
you should see /tsg/
Man I remember 10 years ago /gsg/ used to be my favourite thread
Then the MP games started and the thread filled with steam group gayry, then skype and discord gayry, then 4chan shitposting.
Gibbon should have written about /gsg/ instead of Rome.
not even close
there are generals that don't talk about the game at all, just namefags and drama
You unironically need high IQ to appreciate poog, same with actually playing the game, why only whiteoids, mixed whiteoids and east asians play poe.
There are several big contenders honestly.
>FFXIV
>Path of Exile
>World of Warcraft
>Fortnite
>Some others I haven't been a part of much
>/poeg/
>worst general on /vg/
>NO WAIT
>PATH OF EXILE
>IS A CONTENTER!
What did anon mean by this hard-R-ation?
Half of generals are comprised of waifufags bumping threads with zero to no discussion. Poe at least has people shitting on ggg.
I’v started playing titan quest lately and I like it better.
I don't have autism
Chris cucked to the abusive reddit wife over AN and I just have minimal respect for the integrity of the game.
I'm on sabbatical until poe2 surprise drops in a few weeks.
>AN
>integrity
I don't think i have ever seen a universally hated mechanic like that in an online game ever. And i played ragnarok online before and after renewall.
I liked AN because I'm not a moron who allocated the eater of worlds eldritch altar keystone and blamed his 200% increased damage taken deaths on muh AN.
>AN
>good
You did not have to allocate anything. You had literally videos of quins giga omega tank character that could survive mavens memory game failure state explosion with no issues die to blue AN mobs.
>balanced
AN was a failed fucking project from the get go. It was supposed to convey more information than the previous system at a glance while providing "cooler" interactions between mods... the reality? Mods were hidden to the point that you had to use external websites to figure out what they do, each AN mod had up to 4 effects, each AN monster could have up to 6 (i think) mods... yea good luck trying to balance a rare mob with 24 mods that are mostly multiplicative.
If you never had problems with AN you eithe rplayed the HC mode of PoE aka running blue maps only with your finger on the logout button, or you quit 3 days into the league.
>muh strimmer
>buzzwords
Go back both of you.
>actually falling the the copout excuse they came up with to nerf the atlas tree instead of fixing anything
Based retard
not playing your "f2p" game until you put a 2 next to it, bald gay
I still play. It's just that these events aren't particularly interesting. This gold event has the gold costs set so high you can't really interact with it so there's no point in it being an event.
I beat the game.
I quit after they swapped divines and Ex. I could casually farm Ex by selling influenced sets. But divines were just rng and I wasn't getting enough to make any fun builds.
I played it for maybe a week when it first came out then stopped but not before convincing a friend to play it who still regularly plays it to this day somehow
I realized poe is just diablo 3 with one hit kills instead of 2 hit kills.
I value my time and money.
I got to the end game, and it just didnt click for me. I enjoyed the journey and thought the story was good. I really enjoyed the voice acting, top shelf stuff. But the end game grind, just meh.
My account was banned for making jokes
>when I said TOTAL chud DEATH in global chat I meant it ironically sheeeeesh
Because poe was never fun with a slow build and they made all the cheap builds slow. If they want a slow game that's fine, but they need to do a lot more than slowing it down for it to remain fun.
I only play Grim Dawn/Titan Quest because I'm based and diablo and poe are cringe
Grim Dawn is a great game on a bad engine.
you should try last epoch
passive tree is very reminiscent of GD
all the skills you unlock each have their own skill tree with pretty cool options in each one that change the skill by a lot
crafting is good
it is very based imo and GD enjoyers should appreciate it
It's on my list to get. Thank you for the recommendation.
i like it too i just wish it had functioning multiplayer with decent pvp
I've been wanting to try GD for a while now
What would be a fun 2nd class for Occultist?
Minions seem boring so I've been thinking Arcanist for the laser memes
occ+arc is squishy and hard to build right, good builds exist for it though
if you want something more straightforward and not minions (which aren't straightforward anyways) occultist has a lot of options: necro and oathkeeper and surefire picks but soldier, demo, and i think druid also work well iirc
The entire game feels like a massive chore
They ruined the game with expedition. 1600 hours and I have no desire to come back after that shitshow
You haven't missed out at all. It's a shit show with only idiots thinking it got better. Sunk cost is hitting hard with a lot of gays who missed out on the old times.
The primary reason is that my PC stopped being able to handle it. The secondary reason is that I don't want to give my time to developers that hate me.
Path of who?
Too much bloat.
Story too long.
>Get a diablo tattoo
>Blizz gives you beta access
>Get a PoE tattoo
>you get rugpulled
Post the brutus one. I died a little when i saw someone get that tattoo.
>your bro dies and you dedicate a div card to his memory of his wealth
>LMAO ACTUALLY YOUR DEAD BRO WAS POOR AS FUCK LMAOOOOOO
It's been over a year and people's submissions to the Hall of Grandmasters still haven't been processed. These were pre-payed
My favourites were from pissed off cash cows who wanted a cool item in the game just to get cucked by GGG. I remember fairly early on in the game dev cycle (beyond release) someone got pissed off how GGG turned down all his ideas for an item. His idea was "item that grows with your level" GGG turned him down on that because its not what they want in the game. The same league they literally introduced an item that does that. No fucks given.
>given proof that AN is shit
>throws out chud buzzwords
Expected.
never EVER trust a kiwi
What's the full story here?
Guy got a huge back/shoulder tattoo of a super valuable in-game currency weeks before the dev made it worthless (10% of its previous value)
It's still super recognizable atleast.
some autist cracked the code for timeless garden gnomeels, meaning if you dropped one you could spam it with divine orbs that were usually worth around 10-15c until you got one with god rolls for your build. so BFR decided he would completely upend the entire economy so that exalted orbs (the tattoo) which were ordinarily worth maybe 200c give or take were now about the value of divine orb and divines became rare as fuck without any guaranteed way to farm for them
of course the shifty cunts tipped off their friends so they could convert all their exalts to divines ahead of time in standard league
This isn't true by the way. It's a literal schizo conspiracy. The devs explained their reasoning for the divine and exalted orb change and it had nothing to do with timeless garden gnomeeles getting cracked.
Oh yeah, because Chris "Rain doesn't reduce FPS" Wilson has never lied before
Sure, they said that, but the only use for Divines was totally solved with the timeless garden gnomeel "cracked" open, so its a great coincidence that they give Divine a great importance on crafting gear so people dont spam divines on timeless garden gnomeel till they get the perfect one.
it would have been infinitely less effort to simply change the timeless garden gnomeel seeds than to restructure the entire currency economy of the game.
... er... no? The economy is made by the players, the timeless garden gnomeel would need dev times to re-scramble the passives and would be discovered quickly, it would actually need a "remake" on how they work to have and I think it would be discovered faster than before.
The Divines and Exalted already have the same drop rate, they only changed the crafting table to Divine, way easier than having to change anything involving the timeless garden gnomeel.
>they only changed the crafting table to Divine
... and changed the vendor recipe that gave you a divine for selling a six link (which was the most common way of getting divines before the change)
you forgot to mention that for some reason
>(which was the most common way of getting divines before the change)
i went and turned in like 5 years worth of various 6 link div card sets before the change and ended up with like 300 divines from it. used that to buy myself a mageblood for 100 divines in the middle of people panick-switching currency rates. i know it's on standard so who cares, but it was still a hell of a lot of fun for that interim week or so before the new league started
>The economy is made by the players,
only to a certain degree. the baseline economy is relative to the average time it takes to farm x, where x is usually a divine/exalt equivalent (such as a divination card that awards these things). everything past that, such as the chaos to divine ratio, is based on various sinks for these currencies and affected slightly by fluctuations in supply and demand (which includes things like the drop tier of a unique, new meta builds being discovered that might explode certain items into popularity, the time of league and subsequent number of players who will bulk buy certain things, etc)
"the players" can't suddenly arbitrarily decide that certain currency with a known drop rate is worth more than these other also-known factors dictate. GGG dictates the drop rates and ultimately the economy as a result.
the conspiracy theory literally makes no sense if you actually play the game either. the market is now flooded with thousands of extremely well rolled timeless garden gnomeels all 1-2 div, something you'd never ever get spamming your own with hundreds of 10c divines. even if the there was no change in ex/div the only people who would divine timeless garden gnomeels would be SSFtards because it would literally be pointless for profit or to get one you want.
you'd have to be retarded or not play the game to think they changed it because the timeless garden gnomeel calculator.
>well rolled timeless garden gnomeels all 1-2 div
Kek, if the timeless garden gnomeel is actually well rolled its not worth 1-2 div, you are actually bullshiting, if the timeless garden gnomeel has 1 or 2 good passives its worth 1 div, if is perfect for one type of popular build it can go for more than 1-2 mirrors.
completely wrong. you can literally get things like 3x double damage 3x %attribute or aura effect, basically anything you want for a divine. people crank out timeless garden gnomeels so fast there is not point price checking them all they literally put them in dump tabs based on the keystone.
thank you for proving my point that people who believe the conspiracy theory about it have no clue what they're talking about and don't play the game.
Nah I've gotten multiple really good ones for less than 3 div. Unless it's for a hyper meta build they're pretty cheap. The number of people willing to go through the hassle of looking up timeless garden gnomeels and playing a specific off-meta build is very small.
>20c
>exalt value completely crashed in the recent leagues
hilarious
tattoos are for subhumans. chris moronson is based
Chris Wilson is a retard and deserves to be executed by a firing squad.
you forgot the "fucking bald" qualifier.
Path of Matth did nothing wrong and spoke only truth.
>Path of Matth did nothing wrong
Incorrect. He shouldn't have apologized.
I will pay for Path of Math trip to ExileCon to kill the FBR
Stopped because I had no more builds to try. waiting for new patch now, finally I feel like I'm actually a "decent PoE trader/player", got 1 HH, 1 Mageblood and 1 mirror last league with trading and selling endgame carries.
Drop rates are shit to funnel you into crafting, and crafting is shit to funnel you into the shop
I stop playing every league
>New league SSF
>1-2 weeks of fun
mods are fags
game is bloated out the ass
Why would I play a cheap knockoff of diablo when I can just play Diablo 3?
not what i came to this thread for but thanks this is way better
I stopped at the beach. The game felt so slow to play and move that /i just couldn't do it and I understand you will just tell me it gets better after 9000 hours but I'm not that much of a fan of this type of shit. I rather stick with torchlight or Diablo 1.
huh
diablo 1 is even slower
The speed is similar but theres no reason to play poe over diablo 1
>I stopped at the beach. The game felt so slow to play
What slow to play? I g-
>I rather stick with torchlight or Diablo 1.
????????
Yeah, torchlight especially is kind of plodding the whole way through.
I really like it, it was a favorite of mine for a long time, but it's a really weird point to make especially considering how PoE plays at higher levels compared to it.
Bloat.
I came to them because they were better than Blizzard, not tied or weighed down the same way they were.
They eventually just became Blizzard 2.0, they aren't really quite as bad but they suffer from a lot of similar problems and it's really sad how that happened.
I wish PoE 2 were actually just a new game from the ground up, I think there's too much to fix in PoE to just slowly patch it back into shape.
The changes you'd have to make are just too widespread, maybe I'm wrong.
Nothing short of PoE 2.0 wills save them, and even that is kind of a question for me, a longtime fan of PoE.
i always stop playing path of exile 4-6 weeks into league, because all my goals for that league are finished and I'm bored of it.
That's a healthy way to treat the game, anon.
i played alpha in 2011 game had 2 acts and ledge runs were endgame back then, was top on leaderboards tried it few years ago again it was bloated but still fun, cant even imagine the bloat it must have right now.
Now you remember that they randomly increased monster exposure to 25% told no one and when asked about it went
>Yep we did that
Tell me about Wolcen
Because I'm done with this season. It's healthy to be able to set your own goals and put a game down when you're done with it. I've been playing Last Epoch this week and I'm going to play the D4 beta this weekend.
Because The Vision is shit
Because I beat the game.
I made my hardcore character, got all the way to that Godhead dude on top of the bootleg Tower of Babel in I think Act 4, kicked his ass, and that was that.
After that I stopped playing.
Apparently they've added a few things since then, but I'm not interested in that.
Lost ark unironically showed me that PoE is dogshit in almost every way imaginable
I was able to sink in 1.5k hours into it over the span of 5 months and now I have zero desire to play either game
PoE seems like it's catered directly to the autistic and other mental illnesses.
Why should I believe PoE2 is any different?
you shouldn't
you seem wise and insightful
PoE 2 is just a giant overhaul for PoE, it won't be different in that sense, just hopefully better.
>giant overhaul
Literally new campaign and that's all
you don't have to lie
anything to back this up?
it's been 3 and half years since the announcement, surely you have fully working different game by now, right?
What about ARMOR PIERCING BOLTS?
It's already been well established that the new campaign is going to come with a large patch that changes several things on a mechanical level like skill gem slots, you're just being a disingenuous retard. Why?
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Trolling outside of /b/ is against the rules, frogposter.
Cry me a river, moron.
Avatarposting is also against the rules.
path of exile has a handful of dedicated, severely autistic doomsissies. they're possibly paid blizzard shills, but likely just do it for free due to their mental illness. you can recognize them immediately because they use buzzwords like "mazed" and have been posting images like
from their iphones for literally years now.
>doomsissies
I love that phrase, I'm going to use it forever now.
you better don't or you'll become hopechud
Maximum mazed
This is the most schizophrenic thing I've read this month, good job
He might also be a schizo but he's not wrong.
>t. doomsissy
go back to your shit dead general, Chris semen slurper
this doomchud is SEETHING lmao
>hahah you're so MAD the game I'm shilling is dying HAHA oh man, I am owning you by my game being shit
???? okay retard lmao
Chris wanted the autist audience back then. Then he switched over to catering exclusively to the neets, streamer gays and waking wallets. The game was a fun pastime activity, that turned into a task driven click heavy hellhole, that adds nothing but distraction with each update, and dragging it out with mundane bullshit, calling clocking in hours skill and other shenanigans so disfigured gays can call themselves hardcore.
I will doom post the living crap out of this game. I will make it my obsession to make every gay hate the game and stop spending money. Not only that, but I will infiltrate all communities, spread misinformation and tell them that random games are just like poe but better. You wanted the autists, Chris, and you gave them the middle finger, now deal with their vengeance of biblical proportions. The ones who made you, will destroy you with the force of three suns.
neets and autists are often one in the same, anon
POE2 is literally just POE1 v4.0. All that's changing is they're adding another campaign and fiddling with the gem system a bit. Literally everything else is the same, and they both meet up at maps in endgame.
And that's why they've been dumbing down and nerfing shit across the board for over the year now, to bring the current PoE to what PoE 2 was supposed to be.
Except that, as always, they forgot to slow down the enemies when slowing down the players, so you still have anime protagonist monsters teleporting behind you from 2 screens away
Yeah, I feel like they're trying to bite off more than they can chew the way they're trying to do it.
It's difficult to try and make sweeping changes that overhaul several years of design decisions in just one or two targeted seasonal patches, you knock balance issue off and you'll create five more because you forgot to change the three or four things that were balanced around that thing that sucked that you just changed, so now it somehow sucks more.
I'm not going to touch the thing till it seems like it's practically a new game, 2.0 seems as good a time as any to view as their assurance that they're actually done doing the job, even then I'm not sure they can really pull it off this way.
I had pic with this bald gay "never believe his lies" but lost it.
Bald cunt doesn't care about players in a bit.
Constant lies and nerfs, same fucking meta for couple of years now.
You have to spend campaign tax to access the game, you have to pay playtime tax to make your build working.
No fucking auction house, his fucking economy is probably still dependent on fucking chud discord.
I'm so fucking tired.
you're welcome
Bald fucking retard
BALD
FUCKING
RETARD
Third worlders in /poeg/ made me feel bad for playing a game for people trying to make less than minimum wage
>single player game
>"we nerfed all favorite skills and there's no coming back :DD"
Games as a service really is fraud.
I never started. I played for 30 minutes and quit same day
it's boring doing the same campaign every season
My happy little build was nerfed into the ground because one aspect of it was too close to the op meta build
Because even just the patch manifestos started being so fucking long that they needed THREE separate articles for them and I seriously don't feel like getting a degree in PoE just so I can keep up with the amount of shit that changes from league to league.
Filtered by Maven and schizorealm, got the tier 3 challenge set and gave up
worth the 30€ i spent, but god the game is fucking awful for newfags and meelefags
i kneel to SSF fags that go for 40/40
i still don't know how to get those perfect rolled res ring/amulet that are in all fucking PoB builds
Bex will never sit on you no matter how hard you shill.
It got boring just like most games of this genre.
Spam 1 ability to obliterate every enemy on the screen.
Repeat ad infinitum.
The only reason I finished Diablo 2 is because it was short. PoE just goes on and on and on.
>Used to buy supporter packs, and poopsock leagues for max challenges
>Would try to catalogue every single league unique on standard because I love collecting. Had a spread-sheet filled with every unique I had, their rolls, uniques I didn't have, and whether legacy variants were more desirable.
>Acquisition by Tencent comes along, and my motivation gets kneecapped FUCKING HARD. Skip several leagues
>Come back, poopsock a league, but magic isn't there, and too much time is consumed. Don't bother with supporter packs, because they have a chinese giga-corporation backing them - why do they need my money?
>Eventually uninstall and free up lots of space
Their balance decisions are fucking retarded, but I was generally able to find a playstyle I liked, even if the thing I had been enjoying for several leagues got lobotomized. I really did love summoner gameplay, and I tolerated it, even prior to persistent specters.
But the way they sold their baby to Chinese overlords is just so disgusting that it poisoned my enjoyment of the game - their blood, sweat, and tears spent making a spiritual successor to Diablo 2 no longer belonged to them, they were just employees; as unlikely as it was Tencent would ASSUME DIRECT CONTROL over the game, it's still the principle of making yourself vulnerable to that scenario, that makes me want to puke - I can't even begin to fathom surrendering control of something you clearly put your soul into like that.
tl;dr they sold out
Literally me.
Bugmen influence makes every game worse after acquisition, how matter how hard devs tell to cope, it's hard to not see the difference.
Shit Wilson
I have better version.
A classic baldo meme
turned off by the pseudo mmo style
Started playing the new league and doing the campaign for the 1580000th time i realized that i hate doing that for every character that i want to play, so get fucked Chris.
World of Warcraft™ will welcome you back with open arms and a free level 60 boost for the new and exciting Dragonflight™ expansion :^)
Hardcore is somehow more bullishit now then when volatile devos where a thing. Softcore economy is a joke and I'm not autistic enough for SSF.
i love clicking on 300 useless shit fragments on the ground and getting carpal tunnel syndrome is fun
1. Can't play the game without watching/reading a guide on the second monitor. I wanted 90s gameplay, not dogshit gamedesign.
2. The game made me realize that cosmetics are indeed p2w. Everything revolves around loot. If you can just buy the sickest looking stuff - why bother?
3. Selling actual features that should be included in the game is unforgivable (stash tab to put items on the market) and I want the devs to hang from their nutsacks for this.
4. The community is elitist and will kick you from their cookie cutter games in a millisecond. Can't really blame them though, because the shitty game design breeds assholes.
Path of Excrement is my biggest regret after DayZ
>2. The game made me realize that cosmetics are indeed p2w. Everything revolves around loot. If you can just buy the sickest looking stuff - why bother?
are you really saying playing dressup is more important than the function of the items here
Would rather pay 60 bucks for poe and have good gear visual progression then play it for free honestly. Don't want skins they are too whale focused and the peacocking is insane
It probably wouldn't if the characters had at least pants
why would someone do that? just go on the internet and tell lies?
1. You can clear all content without a guide. Building a character is brain-dead simple. If you die too easily, get more life. If you don't deal enough damage get more damage. It is literally that simple. I've done all ubers on extremely unoptimized characters I've built as I played.
2-4 are valid points.
>Can't play the game without watching/reading a guide
(You) problem
>cosmetics are indeed p2w
you might be mentally deficient.
>Selling actual features that should be included in the game is unforgivable
1. they aren't required to play, enjoy, or beat the game
2. they're literally like $2 stop being a poor brown third worlder lol
>The community is elitist
the in-game chat community is chill as fuck. i can only imagine you're retarded and get called a retard constantly by /poeg/ and r*ddit for being a retard.
I don't think I can go back to playing POE after having gotten to experience the salvage pet in the latest D3 season.
Having to build dollars by picking up pennies is fucking aggravating.
>Having to build dollars by picking up pennies is fucking aggravating.
it's called an item filter lol
Item filter was always a band aid fix for a very obvious problem PoE has always had.
how many items did you just leave sitting on the ground while playing diablo 2?
hardly any, you'd know if you've played it
items from EVERY tier have desirable endgame options
obvious shitposter projecting about not having played the game. you can't gaslight people who actually played d2 to the endgame doing baal runs, cow runs, meph runs, etc, lying retard anon. the game is fucking littered with small piles of gold not worth clicking, potions, white items, undesirable socketed items, rare items with bad bases, shit uniques that you already know are trash before even looking at them, etc.
holy mother of strawman you fucking gay
i bet you don't even know what jmod is without googling
i literally mentioned socketed items in my post you seething retard. you lost. cope with it.
??? the fuck
A flaw in diablo 2 doesn't have to be a flaw of PoE, the whole point of making new games is to learn from your predecessors and make something better.
what you're proposing is "smart loot", which defeats the purpose of an ARPG loot system and economy in the first place. you may as well just be playing a game without actual loot at all, like diablo 3.
No, what I'm proposing is less completely worthless items like white items, and perhaps a loot system that has more gameplay changing elements and utility than power and mandatory equips that just scale up to make 90% of everything worthless.
Not having a screen full of worthless visual clutter is a good bare minimum, you shouldn't have to basically mod the game to have your screen not look like ass cancer, there's a lot of totally worthless shit that can just be removed from the game past a certain point.
Hell, for those who actually get lots of currency, the amount of things they'd consider totally worthless waste of time drops is probably even larger, this is also a problem, why band aid it if you know that it's a problem and can actually try to fix it?
You seems to be forgetting who made this game. BFR worships D2 like he was the most degenerate idiot on Ganker
It's an issue the genre has as a whole.
That's why you are poor, if you take more than 5 minutes per map to make less than 50c it means one of those things:
>your build is shit
>your item filter is shit
>you are an old man
And 5 minutes its a lot of time, but its okay for a casual player.
>if you take more than 5 minutes per map
I think this is one of the biggest flaws with PoE, it's still like this, and likely will always be this kind of solved loot treadmill that people just rush through to get to the end and farm currency.
I miss the content itself actually mattering and everything feeling like an adventure, I miss people not having the game totally solved, I miss the focus being on hc and progressing to endgame and how much you could get done there instead of being how many times you can farm the highest tier maps so you can farm the highest tier maps some more.
I know you weren't there then, I know you don't value that, I know you have no idea what I'm talking about and will say the game was never like that, but I miss when the game was like that, even if it came with a ton of bullshit on the side that we no longer have.
Hard mode kind of brings this back but it still has a tonne of the new systems that destroy the overall feel and many of the enemies are still tuned to the expectation of you having a perfectly minmaxed character.
It does a little, but I found there was enough wrong still that it didn't do a lot for me.
It does feel like a step in the right direction, if other systems were working well it might be a good option for that.
not fun
Played for about 12 hours and never once was it remotely challenging. I'm not going to play for 100 hours or whatever before it gets good.
>I played the baby's first tutorial section and it wasn't challenging so I'm not going to bother playing to the endgame
ok
>make a crafting system so complicated you need to use 2 wikies and a 3rd party websites
i love elitist gatekeeping games
Perhaps candy crush is more your speed, actual retarded anon.
maybe you should go update the wiki chud
>i love elitist gatekeeping games
unironically
Why does it feel like some mentally challenged lunatic is going full force on game's defense.
/poeg/ arrived to shit up the thread
i played it for the first time with my buddy who also hadn't played, and it was p fun.
when i hit max level, i posted some 6 slotted multi-color chest piece in chat and was asking whether it was better than some 5 slotted chest piece with stats, and a guy asked me what spec i was playing.
it was some sort of ice witch that i found a guide for, and the guy was playing the same one. he invited me to his world and said that he was done with the season and gave me his gear.
i don't even know how to describe how expensive it was. all of it was like, a couple of rolls from BIS everything. so i put it on and fucking obliterated maps for the next few days, instakilling everything and cruising at max speed.
and at that point, i'd seen everything the game had to offer. i was playing with monopoly money, and every other season would be the same thing, to reach the same point. it is a waste of time. i put the game down and have no desire to return.
the only way this game is playable is self found leagues, otherwise this game is fucking pointless
I got tired of the VISION™
I hate having to look at guides to get anywhere if I don't want to spend all day doing autistic theorycrafting and only build I really enjoyed playing was using flicker strike
I play it for a couple weeks each league. It is fun at the start but once you get into the awful grindy end game it just becomes cancer.
I'm glad that D4 is releasing though because it means GGG has to actually try to make players happy instead of enforcing Chris' retarded vision upon us.
>Nerfing LS into oblivion
>Buffing useless memes like Cleave
>Cyclone is still shit
Aaaaand into the trash it goes.
>Buffing useless memes
Surely if something is a useless meme it deserves a buff, no? Do you not see the issue with what you just said?
If it's something you don't want to use that you consider laughable, then it needs attention.
Cleave is inherently garbage and will always be a shitty starter skill
Even a Vaal version didn't make anyone want to use that shit
Then it needs buffs/reworks.
I'd argue it's inherently garbage because the current state of the game is pressing one button to clear your entire screen and zipping to the next before you even confirm that finished happening.
>NOOO YOU CAN'T JUST BUFF WEAK SKILLS!!!!!!!!!!
>BUFF
>+2 range
I think I'm going to buy d4 now so I can play on the weekend
Hardcore Ruthless brought my back. I'm a freak that enjoys the slower, restricted CBT gameplay. Filled up every character slot this league with dead characters this league.
I like that playstyle too, it's one thing I liked about older PoE, it still doesn't feel well balanced or implemented even if it's kind of the experience I'd want.
It feels like an afterthought, I may enjoy ruthless if it's still around when they release 2.0 if they've been patching it and giving it attention.
I hate the “currency” system. Builds keep being broken every update. Boss fights are just spam potions and town portals. Exp loss is exceptionally gay.
>Exp loss is exceptionally gay.
Filtered
It is retarded. I'm better off taking riskier maps and dying to get the currency for afk level up, rather then leveling up myself
Or you could just not be bad?
Problem being, youre less bad if you get the currency and level afk. It is more efficient, has less chance to fail, way faster AND if youre early in the league leveling gems it is actually profitable.
players will optimize the fun out of anything. it is dev responsibility to prevent them from doing that.
by nerfing everything fun in the game into the dirt?
Yes, and logical thing would be to drop xp punishment all together and just make leveling longer
I had fun in metamorph and then they nerfed the everloving fuck out of every build, while buffing every enemy, so the only thing they prevented was me having fun
That sounds like a positive thing to me.
>Boss fights are just spam potions and town portals
bruh
The currency system is the only good thing about the game.
Skill gem system is also good, though it needs some revamping.
Itemizing skills in general is a good, and unique, concept.
I don't think it's used to it's full potential, but it's still something I miss playing other games.
It makes playing other games feel extremely limiting.
!ATTENTION gayS!
3.21 is most definitely not a nerf-fest
Because if it is shit under 1000 divine investement, but has +10 dps over 1000 div, it is a fucking buff
True
You're not poor, right? You can afford 1000 divs per build... right?
i didnt still playing since beta (totem patch)
having a blast watching chris slow down the game and all the zoomers that joined after harvest still mad
im with chris crafting was a mistake, someone post the image of all the "harvest gods" saying it was best league and not even getting to red maps
Because its developers are fucking incompetent and seem to have only accidentally made a good game, which is now getting worse every patch.
They have NO FUCKING idea what they're doing, as evidenced by the balance manifesto before the Sanctum update where they wrote a whole blog telling us:
>we're going to nerf altar rewards and buff maven rewards
what was the result of those updates?
>altars became more rewarding than EVER IN THE GAME'S HISTORY
>maven rewards became worse than before and nobody touches it
That is just one example of how shit the developer is. If I were that bad at my job I'd be fucking ashamed of myself.
The recent Sanctum league was praised by retards for having one of the worst roguelike modes you've ever seen in a game. Every update nerfs the game more and reduces build variety for no gain. Every update increases the amount of grinding required for nothing. Trading is an absolute shit experience and is required for most builds. The developer is dead set against QOL improvements and they WANT trading to be a hair pulling experience that requires you to have a web browser open on a 2nd monitor and a 3rd party addon installed to, and even with those it's worse than any other game you've seen since 1998.
95% of skills in the game are unplayable because they refuse to make balance passes in a non-competitive game. It's a game that's all about character builds where the dev seems to want as few viable builds as possible.
Oh and don't hold out hope for PoE2, it's most likely going to be shit since it won't be a fresh new game, but instead it will inherit everything from PoE1 and likely will be a bloated mess.
Your choice for an ARPG will be Diablo 4 (probably heavily pay 2 win but at least the gameplay will be fun) and PoE 2 whose only saving grace is only being slightly pay 2 win.
I agree on everything except this
>The recent Sanctum league was praised by retards for having one of the worst roguelike modes you've ever seen
It was prasied because fucking archnemesis was nerfed into the ground from 24+ separate mods on a mob to 4 and leaguemechanics gave free exalts for completion which made it at least worth playing in the beginning of the league
Getting divines from it doesn't make up for the awful visibility, terribly telegraphed moves and getting hit from offscreen, absolutely uninteresting roguelite perks and heavily punishing builds not optimized for it. Just as a roguelike, it's really no fun.
Last Epoch is unironically the only hope the genre has.
Because I'm a slow player and the kee resetting the skills tree. Fuck this shit.
why nerf shit on a virtually single player game? and wouldnt it be more fun to buff the weak stuff instead of nerfing the strong ones?
The devs of PoE are actively hostile towards their players. They do not care about "fun".
there are always buffs, every league there is something busted. the devs don't balance they rotate through skills and metas because it keeps people coming back
>the devs don't balance they rotate through skills and metas because it keeps people coming back
They haven't even done that over the past 2 years
there have been. ignite and poison changes leading to EA ballista earlier and poison srs this league. curse changes for the impending doom build this league. self cast buffs leading to spark being extremely popular, new uniques like omni and nimis shifting things around them. 3.16 was only a year ago and shifted everything to our lovely determination+molten shell+aegis meta. there's not always massive changes but there is always something new
Something busted every league:
Seismic
Dot-based slop
To balance the game.
A lot of the best skills and strategies basically just totally ignore game mechanics after a certain point, which isn't fun.
Especially since a lot of the game is based around trading, so the people with all the currency will be the people abusing the stupidest shit in a given league.
>A lot of the best skills and strategies basically just totally ignore game mechanics after a certain point
And the only solution to that is to NERF IT TO THE FUCKING GROUND
I didn't say they solve the problem well, I just said why they'd nerf things.
The other side of this problem is that GGG doesn't know how to make good boss fights. They got it right with Uber Elder and Atziri but they've seemed to have forgotten how to do it since then.
>To balance the game.
Then why didn't they balance seismic? Are they incompetent or are you lying?
>Are they incompetent
Why is this even a question at this point?
jungroan is that you? no one cares about seismic trap and hcssf racing meta
The mechanics are designed around the fact that they will be ignored. Not a single mechanics in the game, not even sanctum is benefiting from slow and careful progression. Even if you go for no hit run for the ring youre better off with oneshotting 1 hp build
I stopped having time to grind a decent build, plus all non fotm builds are insanely expensive to get going
game is also mega stale
fuck that bald fraud
Catarina did nothing wrong
Because Lost Epoch came out and it has better loot and crafting system.
>shit talked D4
>Poe2 is still nowhere to be seen
uh...
I looked at this game a couple times and thought it looked pretty bad. I tried it against my better judgement and I was correct.
Shit barter economy.
The game being balanced around trade and being balanced around logging out to avoid death is why it is and always stay shit.
I played it back when there were 4 acts. Then I tried coming back recently to play 5-10
was OK for a while, but then:
>Delve! Go dig for treasure in the magic darkness mines because weird NPC told you to
>Delirium mirror! World turns gray and weird shit starts happening for some reason
>Explosive mining! Set some bombs to dig up artifacts while 6 different weird ass NPCs tell you weird shit and each offer some different weird menu
>Heist! Go rob some fucking manor or something by teleporting there while some more weird NPCs yell quips at you. Also you have to keep doing their mandatory quests if you pick up their quest item in maps by accident
>Incursion! Teleport back in time into some atziri temple or something because a weird NPC told you to??? Don't even know got filtered by it immediately
>Syndicate! Literally some wanted poster with some crime network thing comes up out of nowhere, you're supposed to capture / interrogate 200 more weird NPCs for some reason
>Blight! Now we're doing tower defense of mushrooms I guess
>Sanctum! Go inside these random magic balls and clear rooms full of enemies because why not I guess?
i like the idea of temp leagues putting one of these things in at a time to keep it fresh for the old whales, but my god they've shoved so much garbage into this game that it's bursting at the seams with content bloat.
other problems like trade and grindiness are there, we all know it, but the above is what really ticked me off. They need to move on to a new game already and stop casting Raise Zombie on this husk.
they allow you to pick which stuff you want to do and block the others which I like, but I can't even imagine being a new player and trying to figure out all this bullshit
>they allow you to pick which stuff you want to do and block the others
Block as in I can stop some of them from appearing at all? How do I do this I never want to see another sanctum portal again as long as I live.
Sanctum is going away at the end of this leagueg and will be back in 4.0 as the lab replacement
I quit this league super early so I am with you there on Sanctum but that's the current league content so you can't
all the other stuff can be blocked on your Atlas passive tree.
I block Heist, Harvest, and Legion and enjoy everything else.
Fantastic, thanks a ton. Are there specific nodes I have to get to or is there some option on the screen that I didn't notice.
no him, but they're these ones on the tree
Many thanks to the both of you.
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-atlas-skill-tree/AAAABgAADwhsLdA7n0oOX1Nyy3Piic-WzZvYpsTXTfJM_OT_uAAA
I highlighted them here. You get 1 point per map you beat.
I started pretty recently and tbh it's not that bad. basically every mechanic is
>get generic loot
>get specific loot for that mechanic (usually fragments to fight something)
It might freak out the type of zoomers who need to know the optimal way to do everything from a walkthrough before playing though
I'd be fine with the bloat, if it was worth doing. Decrease appearances, and make every single temp league mechanic a meaningful encounter that people look forward to instead of
>Wow I hope this has something of value
>force myself to do a few old league mechanics
>hate every single one of them
>still, need some currency
>nothing ever fucking drops
And that's why I hate poe
Breach was the best league, they can't replicate its success anymore.
Because bald hard-R</Linus> thought bloating with more acts to repeat each season was a good idea.
I stopped when the game was like 3-4 acts like Diablo 2. Now it's like 10-15 acts before you hit the actual end game. Fucking stupid.
>New league
>get all hyped
>reinstall the game
>autistically research builds to zero in on which will be most fun
>Smash my way through the Acts
>Fuck yeah this is going to be awesome
>Get to yellow maps
>...
>Quit game
>Uninstall
>wonder why this keeps happening
>do it again next league
peaked with the labyrinth, thought it was going to usher in a new era of poe game design but nope back to shitty maps
Sanctum was a good mechanic because it was simple and to the point.
All they had to do was increase the number of rooms you got per map or let you bank up an entire run and it would have been GOAT
They have nerfed Vortex into oblivion, multiple times.
I don't know how to play anything else.
They showed poe2 too early, I just want to play it already
It's boring and the skill tree is a bloated mess, also Diablo 2 R exists so why even bother now?
>d2r
No endgame. Immunities. No loot filter. No fun. D2 is not a good game.
moron, it's a good game, maybe even better than PoE. But you play 300-1000 hours and get bored.
>Immunities
There are charms to get past them now
>even more boring 30 year old boomer game exists
>also Diablo 2 R exists so why even bother now?
I have thousands of hours in OG Diablo 2, that game is done.
because this gay couldn't fix make for like 2 years straight and made game even more grindy
melee*
Because this fucker keeps on having Vision™ Moments and making the game worse. He made a good game by accident, doesn't understand how that happened, and now, instead of improving on the original design, he just ruins everything.
I didn't, but avoiding PoE burnout became much easier when I started to play every second league. Sanctum league was great.
I always lose interest when I get to maps. I have over a thousand hours on more characters than u can remember and I don't think i've gotten a single one much past level 70
>Market game as "you can do anything"
>successively make it harder to gather enough resources before you get insane to make non meta builds viable
pic related
I will come back for next league. But, I'm pissed that they pushed back the big content league to coincide with their shitty exilecon bullshit.
They're mostly just avoiding the Diablo 4 release. See that red line at the bottom? That was one week after WoW Classic.
Why did Heist spike like that near the end?
Hard to keep track of everything, but it was most likely because of some arbitrary announcement that shifted the economy, so a ton of people logged on to scam others to pad their Standard wealth.
That was the first time they did Endless Delve. I guess the second spike is from people who played that and decided to stick around for a second lootbox.
If it was just the league being shit then it would've started high and dropped off hard. Even after the patch notes for Expedition (second lowest line) where they announced nerfs to absolutely fucking everything before releasing the patch, there were still plenty of players on launch day.
WoW Classic didn't even really impact it. That red line is Blight, which was heavily canned at the time for being boring and annoying and was just after Legion, which was heralded as a great League because of how overpowered updated Cyclone + Slayer was. Literally brain-off turbozoom gameplay. Which as we all know, got violently nerfed after that and wasn't very good for Blight anyway.
>WoW Classic didn't even really impact it
you're delusional lol
It didn't impact it.
Blight was almost unplayable on launch because of horrible performance issues and the mechanic bugging out constantly.
i know what blight was like at launch. just about every poe launch was like that back then. it absolutely impacted the numbers and the proof is that BFR was so spooked by the drop off that he postponed the Ritual launch to dodge Cyberpunk release (lmao). You don’t have a clue what you’re on about
I remember skipping blight after two weeks because I was no lifing wow so hard. Did the same when the harvest league came out too.
ffs he lives in New Zealand why doesnt he tan ? looks like fucking freak with that stupid pale white head
Return my treasures to me, and I myself will carry you through the gates of Valhalla. You shall ride eternal. Shiny, and chrome!
bfr
Meta is stale. Game needs a large list of buffs and nerfs.
Removing Archnem was a great step in the right direction at least.
>Why did you stop playing Path of Exile?
I'm just not autistic enough. It'd be cool to have a ramp up for a casual, as it is right now it's like fucking crash landing on another planet. 50 different languages, 240 currencies and resources and everything is upside down. It's a shit experience. But if they want to just appeal to the Hardautist then they need to not give a shit when their playerbase dwindles.
> play for years
> in chat talking with some newer players about what's fun
> "I always like maurader because I feel like gallagher smashing watermelons lol"
> account banned for racism, appeal denied
but oddly the user spamming walls of text about current politics with no bearing on the game at all who oddly had the same username as the forum mod who denied my appeal had been going for over an hour despite multiple people in chat reporting him for spamming and flaming
very strange
They went full dystopian ruler on the chat. Typing anything can grant you a ban today.
This happened right after tencent bought them, so I assumed they'd brought in new moderators who just banned based on whoever bothered them.
The political rant was about taiwan not being real, which really activated my almonds.
how much money have you spent on the game?
I have paid in about 1000 bucks and I pretty much have no censor. Sometimes I get chat banned for calling someone a fag for 24 hours.
I stopped playing right before delve release because they were going to add a literal gacha stamina bar in that league and it looked horrendous for hardcore (only played hardcore as softcore is a literal cookie clicker mode). But those was just the last straws, I was already getting very irritated with their balance strategy being primarily for money instead of player fun. That said, fuck "balance" in a game where the only "competitive" part is how much shit you can put on a website auction house in a particular timeframe.
endless delve was the last time I had fun in this game
ever since redditors shat on the best league they ever did (synthesis) the game has been pure shit
>synthesis
Imagine what a clusterfuck that would've been if the chinks hadn't datamined all the recipes. I don't know how 3xG expected anyone to figure that shit out on their own.
what recepies? I just wanted my custom maps
Because when I tried to play it for the first time I was apparently 6 seasons behind. I really don't have the time for an 80 hour a week job on top of my real 40 hour a week job.
Games should not be Jobs.
>bloated
>no control over my characters appearance outside of shit I received from overpriced supporter pack I bought when I was drunk
>gem linking system fucking sucks and it takes way too long to even get a taste of your build if you don't play trading simulator
>no control over my characters appearance
Who gives a shit? You can barely see your character anyways
Also stop playing builds that need a high amount of investment on league start
braindead bald fuck
Got to act 6 and I suddenly started swinging noodles and dying in 2 hits
because they went from "skill gems provide a base and support gems alter the skills " to "pack everything in the skill gems and support gems just boost damage in some way"
for instance Spectral Helix could just be a "Helix" support and if you link it with Spectral Throw it will make it behave like Spectral Helix, and you can link it with all the other projectile skills to make them spin around you. Imagine Ball Lightning Helix
The game just become more and more like other typical arpg where you have to play it as "intended" as the devs think, instead of doing weird shit and having fun