Why didn't the Emperor create a way to navigate space without relying on Navigators, so the Imperium could safely eliminate them?

Why didn't the Emperor create a way to navigate space without relying on Navigators, so the Imperium could safely eliminate them?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he was working on that when the heresy happened

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't he just take what Votann use? They don't have navigators, they use machines.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because the imperium can't in to proper AI tech because whoever wrote that bit of the setting liked dune.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They use somehow-psychic supercomputers that run a lot of their civilization as the beacons and specialized Men of Iron for navigation. Alongside the reliance on exacting genetic molds to manage the Warpshit safely.

        Literally everything about the Leagues of Votann are a "proven dead end" by the Emperor's standards, no matter how much better off they were from the collapse, because He will stop at nothing short of becoming normal by forcing the rest of humanity to catch up.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Would the emperor wipe out the Votann if he came. back?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >if he came. back?
            But he never left

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              he's stuck on a throne and can barely think.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the only explanation was the Emperor knew about the Votann and considered them an existential threat worse than Chaos because of the DAoT machine war.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because 40k is a Dune ripoff and they have their own Butlerian Jihad equivalent and fatwah against all thinking machines.
        Votann are special snowflakes with benevolent AI who didn't exist when the setting was being developed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Votann are functionally not part of the same canon and the same could be said for Tau. Techno-utopianism was explicitly never part of the original recipe for 40k but this faded as writers with their own likes and preferences and agendas came on board.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          except thats wrong, the Imperium was backwards but the Eldar at least were classic utopian tech

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the Eldar at least were classic utopian tech
            Except that's wrong, their tech couldn't save them and in fact they were just a pale shadow of what they used to be before the Fall. Eldar aren't going around making new Maiden Worlds from scratch, they defend old ones already made. Techno-utopianism means that "tech can and will save us" and that new advances are being constantly being made. Imperium has small, localized advances when some Magos uncovers (or invents and comes up with a bullshit story of how he uncovered it) old tech. This usually doesn't change anything but a sector at best. Nu-40k broke this with Cawl and Girlyman and Votann because GW needed to sell new lines of models.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It didn't start with Gathering Storm. GW has been redoing and adding tech all the time, like Razorbacks, Centurions or the AdMech models before. Primaris also haven't really changed anything outside marines.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Primaris also haven't really changed anything outside marines.
                So, 80% of 40K lore and a vast plurality of board game players at least?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                marine players? Sure. But 40k lore is way bigger than just marines, the Rift and the imperium being divided is the actual big change. The new stories are pretty much variants of the old ones. Everything is two minutes to midnight, etc

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the Rift and the imperium being divided
                That was such a nothingburger.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because of all the wrong magnus didn't do

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Rick Priestly read Dune and freaky mutants guiding ships FTL was a cool concept to lift? This shit is not complicated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >freaky mutants
      the navigators in 40k just have a third eye, nothing comparable to their counterpart in dune

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's not what the writers wanted.
    It's like the astronomican thing. How did humans travel before it? They used some necron beacon things. So why don't they still use them? They just uhhh... stopped working.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The warp uhhhh...... finds a way
      - Jeff Chaosblum

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How did humans travel before it?
      DAOT technology, possibly aided by AI.

      Humans used to be far more advanced than they are now, hence the STC. But that advancement was "built on sand" and they fell.

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