Why didn't this game seem to have the same longevity as Breath of the Wild?

Why didn't this game seem to have the same longevity as Breath of the Wild?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it more. Its just not a muh open world RPG type game, platformers are not as talked about as they used to.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I liked Odyssey a lot more too.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If you mean low quality shit threads online, then because Mario is the kind of game people just play without much talking about it. It's not "cool" to play Mario and there isn't much controversial to say about it.

    Had it been bad there would be more threads about it, but it was near perfect.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    no DLC or talk of a sequel even the concept is perfect for more content

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That REALLY bothers me, Nintendo is smoking crack if they're not working on a direct sequel.

      Not much to talk about despite being fun. Zelda has story to discuss, open dungeon order to mix up replays, and yoga pants to jerk off too.

      BOTW's story is shallow as shit, Mario Odyssey reveals some fascinating details of Mario's world, like how it seemingly goes on forever with an endless variety of strange places and people, even a Dark Souls esque medieval world.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      DLC makes even more sense considering it's not an RPG or anything where you increase your health and get new items and abilities. Mario's abilities are the same all throughout aside from captures. DLC in RPGs always feel imbalanced to me due to this fact.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because, and I don't know why, anons on this fucking site can't stop SEETHING about breath of the wild. I haven't even got a switch and I noticed that 6 years later, the ranting and baiting just goes ON AND ON.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because Odyssey is still a Mario game at the end of the day whereas BotW is a new IP pretending to be Zelda and people don't want BotW to repeat its mountain of mistakes while fanboys refuse to accept even an iota of criticism. A ton of it is diehard Zelda fans vs Nintendo and BotW bootlickers on top of regular fanboy shitposting.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's not like Zelda hasn't reinvented itself before

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You gotta be the most deluded fuck on this website.
        You're saying the consensus is that NO ONE liked BotW and those that do are just nintendo shills? Fuck you're retarded

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Reading comprehension is not your forte.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >BotW is a new IP pretending to be Zelda
        You mean like zelda II and ocarina of time?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          zelda 2 has long been considered the black sheep of the series and is still more of a zelda game than botw
          oot is alttp in 3d with a stronger story

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            OOT is much more akin to Zelda 2 than ALTTP

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              There's some similarities but I'd say OoT is much more LttP than AoL. All three still have the Zelda formula as their core though while BotW does not. The closest BotW gets to a Zelda game is on the Plateau.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >zelda 2 has long been considered the black sheep
            And? Doesn't change the fact that it's very different than the first and might as well be a new ip. Then what makes botw different from Zelda II and 3d Zeldas?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              It's not a Zelda game.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Seconding.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, that's what I thought. No real answer.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Such things should be obvious to anyone who is being honest.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                nta just came in here to call you a retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                retard

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not much to talk about despite being fun. Zelda has story to discuss, open dungeon order to mix up replays, and yoga pants to jerk off too.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    3D sandbox platformers have taken a back seat to open world adventure games since the 7th gen or even earlier

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Bowser's Fury was a better game all around.
    Mario Odyssey throws a bunch of shit on the wall and sees what sticks. But the game suffers greatly for it on replay. The forced collectathon is a boring slog.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Came to post this.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        odyssey has a challenge level like that at the end too whats your point

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          A challenge level you get when you complete the boring slog first.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Good thing Odyssey isn't boring.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >example of fun is posting some autismos speedrun shortcut cheat to beat ai's in a race
              When you have to do stupid out of the way shit like this to make the game fun for yourself, it's not fun.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >just because a game is fun doesn't mean it's fun

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                How is using the movement mechanics going out of your way?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Pretty sure all the characters ran the opposite way the player did.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                And?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You might be mentally challenged.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                NOOOOOOOO YOU DIDNT PLAY LIKE THE NPCS YOU'RE NOT HAVING FUN THE RIGHT WAY

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                it's not "out of the way", he's playing the game as intended by the director himself.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Ironic that you post an image from Monster Hunter, a game where the fun comes from going out of your way to do unnecessary stuff during battles.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Debatable.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                See? The games originally favored swords. Hammer is going out of your way to make your own fun. A self-imposed challenge.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Don't be a dipshit, dude.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Isn't it funny how applying that logic to a game you actually like makes the argument sound retarded?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's not even the same argument. I don't have time to explain how completely moronic you are.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Right, but you have time to keep coming back to get the last word in.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                bro Hammer was like top three in FU and at least was on the better end of weapons until MH4.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >buffs from a horn
                >Setting up random traps to achieve 1 thing during battle
                >Having to use pots in corners just to heal while your buddies get rammed
                >Egg hunts
                Sounds about right

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                What do you mean?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He's saying he's retarded.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Is it just me or did those graphics and art style age like fucking milk? Fucking hell is that ugly.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                A better question is how does Sunshine still look so good? I swear, Gamecube games look better than most games that are coming out nowadays.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Mario sunshine only looks good if you blur it
                those models are awful

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The models are fine.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >1280x720
                >hiding mario's face

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Kneel

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >those arms

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                gamecube was made through demonic pacts

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >how does Sunshine still look so good?
                Only the water looks good
                Everything else looks like shiny plastic shit
                Like Sonic Heroes

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                wow a sonic game looks bad thats crazy

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                its you

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Just you the game still looks incredible

                Since we usually only get one 3D Mario a console generation, I'm curious when Nintendo will announce the next one and whether or not it'll be related to Odyssey at all.

                I hope they keep cappy either way. He added something different to marios traditional moveset.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/ar0wwSg.jpg

                Why didn't this game seem to have the same longevity as Breath of the Wild?

                The throw hat dive after move trivializes the rest of Mario's moveset

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >The throw hat dive after move trivializes the rest of Mario's moveset
                Disagree. It added another dimension of flexibility to the platforms.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, it's just that one level that looks like that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                that's the aesthetic of that level
                each kingdom has its own aesthetic

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                its you

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              No offence mate but you're literally just doing the same "throw the hat ans bounce off it" trick like 15 times in a row. That's like going "heck check out my cool DMC combo" and you just mash square

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              WHY IS THERE A SKELETON JUMPING AROUND
              AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Just like 3D World. Fucking 80% of its special worlds are just recolors with modified enemy placement or a lower timer. The main game repeats gimmicks by world 4.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I want to replay this shit so bad but the $60 price tag is killing me, even the rare times it goes to $40 is still too much
        at least with MK8 Deluxe, that shit is still getting content so It doesn't really sting paying $60 again for that game.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      > Mario Odyssey throws a bunch of shit on the wall and sees what sticks
      no, they make a bunch of alternative ways to play the game so that casuals can enjoy it just as much as veterans.
      > The forced collectathon
      it gives you more freedom to only collect what you want than any other Mario game. Did you even play it?

      A challenge level you get when you complete the boring slog first.

      >boring slog
      the base game is quick and fun if you play it right. It's a sandbox game, you literally play it how you want. If the base game was a boring slog to you it's probably cause your brain is boring

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This honestly. Plus my issue with Odyssey is barely anything about it felt memorable. I rather have a handful of notoriously difficult challenges like in the previous games. 64 takes advantage of it's where half the time you're fighting the camera controls and tightrope platforming. Sunshine takes it up a notch by having the entire level being visually affected by the result of your challenge, something you barely see in gaming anymore. Odyssey was just hundreds of obstacles that just hits the "passably difficult" mark. There's just not a memorable moment outside of the story.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >barely anything about it felt memorable.
        The New Donk festival is one of the most memorable moments in any Mario game.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >pointless fanservice for boomers
          next

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >barely anything about it felt memorable
        the only thing I remember about sunshine is how god awful it is and the 30 fps cap that you still can't get rid of without fucking physics up
        galaxy was memorable but I hate going back to it because how little there is to actually play
        it's just holding a analog stick and shaking a controller or pressing a button counting if you're emulating

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Filtered.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >dooood water jet pack
            >takes it away half the game
            >collectibles are shit
            >the most buggy mario game ever

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              what happened in your life to made you act this way

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I walked Bob Dylan on stage in 1966

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't you also an NYU graduate, SUCKA!?!?!?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You don’t respect the silence that’s a foundation of gaming ability

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Mario 64 was a better game despite it being their first attempt
                and sunshine is worse in almost every way except for controls
                and galaxy could have been better if it had actual gameplay

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Super Mario Adventure XD

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                webm's like these are so fucking stupid. they say nothing. yes obviously autists will try to perfect any game. its like you never played the game. you're just impressed because they did it all in one shot. pretty much everyone who played the game did everything in this video just not all at the same time in 30 seconds. it doesn't say anything about the gameplay

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It objectively has a higher skill ceiling

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no it doesnt. there are no tight windows in that webm at all. anybody could replicate this with a little practice and direction. this isn't melee. again every gameplay mechanic used in this clip is something everyone who has played the game has easily done.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                again you're doing nothing. get hurt for invincibility and dive jump and flip jump for a higher jump. anyone who has played this had done this easily, they may have not have the game knowledge to went this route but none of it is difficult or show a high skill ceiling

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                seething chink doesn’t have the skills to do it himself.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                lmao midwit you literally havent even played the game if you thought that lava clip was at all skillful. you could have maybe said doing all those things right in a row for the harbor clip took a little practice but that lava clip? just stay watching trannies speedrunners on twitch

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I don't need to play a game to have an opinion on it.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't need to play a game to have an opinion on it.
                lmao there it is

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't need to play a game to have an opinion on it.
                Ah, that's the Ganker I know and love.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >he cant tell who he’s actually replying to
                Maybe if you opened your eyes and stopped squinting all the time

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                all you npcs are the same. think faster

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Don’t brame me for your rack of commubication skirrs

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            These reek of meleefag.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.chad

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Play a real fighting game.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >"actual" fighting games are chuding out their characters on a dime to appease Twitter
                nah I'm just fine with Melee. Thanks. 🙂

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >kills himself to assert dominance

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      everything was said in the joseph anderson video and this. pretty everyone i knew stopped talking about it or playing it after it came out

      bowser's fury mogged the shit out of it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Bowser's Fury was a better game all around.
      Mario Odyssey's movement is way better than 3D World's, so the open environment gameplay felt watered down in comparison. I also didn't like that you just hog dozens of power ups so getting hurt doesn't matter.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's the highest selling 3D Mario by far and still sells at a decent pace. Honestly I'm fucking glad Odyssey was the game to cause this instead of 3D World as much as I like that game because it helps cement that people have a interest in 3D exploration rather than the continual linearity the series kept facing. Nintendo had that fear for so long that older 3D Mario was just too intimidating for people and it needed to be more like the 2D games to sell better but this game shattered that view.

    Between this and Mario Maker showing them how diverse 2D Mario level design can be I'm really interested to see how future titles are handled.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Nintendo had that fear for so long that older 3D Mario was just too intimidating for people and it needed to be more like the 2D games to sell better
      Genuinely one of the companies with the lowest opinion of their playerbase.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      3D World was good, though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it’s good
        I even like it more than Odyssey
        But I’m also glad that Odyssey did better because it means Nintendo can have more faith in exploration-based 3D Mario

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a shorter game.
    More fun though.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Even looking for korok seeds was more fun than completing Mario Odyssey.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Mario Odyssey is a top 10, maybe even top 5, Mario game.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Let's see, all other 7 mainline Mario games are better. Mario Maker are 2 games. Yeah it manages to be in top 10.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    yes

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because Zelda characters are a more popular porn tag so it stayed trending on Twitter longer.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They branded it as the most non-linear Mario game in years but it's arguably even more linear than the Galaxy games. Odyssey has a linear path of progression where you do each world consecutively with only a couple variations in which order you want to complete the game. The worlds themselves also have a linear progression path. You can't exit them without defeating the main boss or getting certain moons. The game is literally a straight line even though the worlds are open-ended. This among many other reasons has given the game far less longevity and replayability than even games like Mario 64.

    Most people have now realized that the game was an overrated disappointment. It had the foundations of a perfect game but was bloated with half-baked ideas, repetitive game design and quantity over quality... just like Breath of the Wild!

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not consuming this garbage zoomer

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Phoneposter

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >t. seething poorfag

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Buy it used? You can get this shit cheap as hell for used condition like on ebay.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Open worlds cater to obsessive autists who'll happily waste hundreds of hours just running around and nothing else.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker hates Odyssey just because it's the newest Mario game. Once the next Mario game comes out Ganker will unanimously decide that Odyssey is a good game and start to shit on whatever the new game is.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much, same happened to 3DW. You couldn't discuss 3DW worth shit on Ganker without jackasses chiming in to say how shit it was for not being a "real" 3D Mario, but now barely anyone gives a shit to complain about it.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      thats silly, galaxy is the worst and thats like three games ago worth of nostalgia

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ever thought Mario games are just getting worse?

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Open world fantasy games are huge and 3D platformers are not
    Both of them have awful quantity over quality approaches to design though and I hope future games in either series are better at handling their scope and size

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Both of them have awful quantity over quality approaches to design though
      Yeah, really hope Nintendo ditches that in favor of better more varied and unique content, but I doubt they will. It worked out way too well for them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Both of them have awful quantity over quality approaches to design though
      Yeah, really hope Nintendo ditches that in favor of better more varied and unique content, but I doubt they will. It worked out way too well for them.

      You're not meant to collect every Power Moon.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Just like you're not supposed to collect everything in botw
        but people do it anyways
        but w/e I don't care enough I don't even own a switch and probably never will
        maybe when I get a new gpu I'll attempt to emulate with my dualsense if it's not drifting by then

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Just like you're not supposed to collect everything in botw
          >but people do it anyways

          Very few people do that.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Very few
            you underestimate nintendo ocd

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Very few people do that.

            k, and?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what am i "meant" to do exactly

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Have fun with what is arguably the best locomotion system in any video game to date.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            which i use to collect moons

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly thats something I dislike about it. I would have preferred more focus on moon placement then the unending stream we got.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        You don't have to. The shitty ones that are thrown around everywhere for every little thing still greatly undermine the whole experience. I got sick of it in new donk and dropped the game.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I played it for 60 hours which is a lot longer than any other Mario game and I still didn't do everything.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's no masterpiece.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        jesus christ journalists really are something else

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's an e-celeb.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            He's not a journalist, he's an eceleb Ganker loved to suck off

            whatever he's still a fag

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He's not a journalist, he's an eceleb Ganker loved to suck off

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYJx5xt2cB0&vl=en

        It's no masterpiece.

        >TWO FUCKING HOURS
        >Begins video talking about how he first thought video games were cartoons he could control
        >Cant walk in a circle
        What kind of retard is this

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Someone who thinks he's a lot smarter than he actually is.

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >played odyssey three times
    >played botw once

    botw btfo

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Since we usually only get one 3D Mario a console generation, I'm curious when Nintendo will announce the next one and whether or not it'll be related to Odyssey at all.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      mario valhalla

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Considering the only time nintendo has a made a direct sequel was within 3 years of the same game
      it's not going to be related to Odyssey at all

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I can't even explain why, but I enjoyed every second of Odyssey but dropped it after New Dong and haven't played for months despite loving it.

    This didn't happen to me with BOTW. Or Elden Ring for that matter. Though Mountaintops of the Giants almost made it. Best answer I can come up with is that I love 100%ing 3D Marios but this seems like too much busywork for that AKA the Crash 4 Problem.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Home...

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        i dont remember it looking like that is that after the tree burns

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You only get embers after you beat Maliketh not after the initial burning.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because it sucks.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't, though.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      its the best 3d mario

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Its good though. You off your meds again ?

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Does if you do balloons

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoyed this game, But there was not much to talk about.

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Mario Funshine

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    One day I'll go back and finish that last challenge level in Odyssey. Maybe when they announce the next Mario game.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's easier than the Galaxy 2 and 3D World ones.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        3D World one was such a bitch. I felt so good after completing it. Galaxy 2 I still have to play. It's easily emulatable, right?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Very.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    have you noticed how most people that hate odyssey are giant sunshinefags?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      sunshine fags are the new sonic adventure fags
      loving a game despite it's shit because they were toddlers at the time

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >'Sonic Adventure is bad' meme

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Always has been.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          NTA, I liked Sonic Adventure but final rush was fucking trash

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      no because sunshine was my favourite from day one until odyssey

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Did sunshine inspire splatoon?

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Some of those post bowser , cube moons were hard. Like seriously.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Based on my short experience with 3D Marios (it, 64 and Sunshine) is the best one. Fantastic game overall.

    Meanwhile, BotW is a glorified Assassins Creed game with a Zelda paintcoat.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      BOTW doesn't really do anything new for the genre.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, i don't know why is being paraded as a gift from the Gods. My guess is that journos and people in general are too pussies to shit on Zelda.

        To me is a solid 7/10 game. Every time i'm playing it i wish i was playing RDR2.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Journos, only good switch launch title, and the game is super frontloaded so you get by far the best experience right at the start before all the journos and normalfags dip out and realize how disappointing the rest of the game is. It's for open world walking sim enthusiasts. The rest will get bored. Hell, the game is borderline designed to be played until you get bored and drop it, not actually beat it. Nobody is going to run off to ganon to end the game while they're still having fun and nobody is going to want to run off to ganon and beat the game when they're bored of it. The relegates the ending and climax to just another optional side thing and you can tell it's treated as such by the minimal effort they put into it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          meant for

          Yeah, i don't know why is being paraded as a gift from the Gods. My guess is that journos and people in general are too pussies to shit on Zelda.

          To me is a solid 7/10 game. Every time i'm playing it i wish i was playing RDR2.

          And yes being nintendo and having zelda on the cover helped immensely. It would've long been forgotten about otherwise. It getting a spinoff and direct sequel that threatens the future of a longstanding behemoth of an ip is also why it's still relevant and talked about. Odyssey doesn't have those some transgressions or a sequel to keep it discussed, it was just a middling mario and the next mario could easily be totally different.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, i don't know why is being paraded as a gift from the Gods. My guess is that journos and people in general are too pussies to shit on Zelda.

      To me is a solid 7/10 game. Every time i'm playing it i wish i was playing RDR2.

      Right now I'm playing Assassin's Creed 1 for the first time and now I get the UbiSoft towers criticism. It literally is the same thing.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It literally isn't.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not really, Ass Creed towers are probably better, at least they are architecturally more interesting.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Thread about Mario Odyssey
    >Ends up being a BotW seethe thread

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, fuck that game, honestly. It gets undeserved praise. It does nothing of true note beside a few overrated physics gimmicks.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      6 more years of seethe when the sequel comes out

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >haha I don't want them to improve anything or even care if they make a good game I just want to see people get mad over finding it a huge let down

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          These are botw fans, they don't actually have brains.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          itll be good though so keep up that seething ya retard

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Nintendo wanted to wash their hands of it as soon as possible for some reason. They kept acknowledging BotW after its release and gave it actual new content to extend its longevity (even if said content was pretty shallow in retrospect). But SMO just got new costumes and a tacked on hide-and-seek mode, and Nintendo has been allergic to acknowledging anything from SMO that isn't related to classic Donkey Kong starting immediately after release. It's crazy how a new Zelda outsold a new Mario on the same platform, but it makes sense with how little mindshare Nintendo has given to SMO and its success.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Is this the first time that a console's mainline Zelda has outsold its mainline Mario? Zelda has never been a big seller outside of maybe NA.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yep. Zelda usually is no slouch itself, but this is unheard-of territory.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That upsets me to no end given how massive a fan of SMO I am.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's not my favorite mainline Mario, but I enjoyed it quite enough. My bigger upset is that it's the first time in a long time that a major Mario release (not a character spinoff) has shown some genuine palpable fucking soul, striking a great chord with players too... and Nintendo seemingly wants to act like it never happened.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I really don't get why.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I really don't get why.

          Pauline becoming the "4th princess" and other various SMO references like Cappy in Smash prove you wrong. Just because SMO didn't get some kind of DLC doesn't mean it's just in the trash bin, you people are insane.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Pauline isn't even from Odyssey. They're just wanking off past material with her.
            >but Smash Bros!
            Are you REALLY about to use Smash as a reference for what Nintendo considers relevant in their franchises?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              you moron will nitpick everything just to argue

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Pauline isn't even from Odyssey
              So fucking what, you retard? That character was 100% dead in the water being relegated to only showing up in Mario V DK and literally nothing else, then after SMO she's being added to every Mario Spinoff based off her SMO appearance. You idiot, you absolute buffoon.
              >Are you REALLY about to use Smash as a reference
              Yes, fuckhead, because Smash isn't the only game we see SMO stuff in.

              Here's the bottom line, you people have been so mindraped by games as a service or post release updates or whatever that a game can't just come out and be complete, it needs DLC, it needs a battle pass, it needs to stay relevant for 3 years after it drops otherwise it's a colossal failure. Ignore how much it sold, ignore how the game was utterly complete at launch, ignore all that, it didn't get a heckin' 24.99 DLC expansion pack so it's a flop. You're all fucking retards.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >you've been mindfucked by modern games you fucking le zoomers
                ...or seeing how Nintendo treated their previous 3D Mario games. You actual fucking zoomer.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >So fucking what, you retard? That character was 100% dead in the water being relegated to only showing up in Mario V DK and literally nothing else, then after SMO she's being added to every Mario Spinoff based off her SMO appearance. You idiot, you absolute buffoon.
                Imagine if the Galaxy duology's only representation was King Whomp and Throwback Galaxy. BU WHO CARE ITS THING FROM GALAXY THAS GOOD ENUFF RITE

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >That character was 100% dead
                Is completely contradictory to
                >being relegated to only showing up in Mario V DK

                Pauline had regular appearances on Nintendo's most popular handhelds for years and was even spotlighted in Puzzle Swap. Just because you're a zoomer who didn't know shit about Pauline until Odyssey doesn't mean she was "dead in the water". Her regular appearances in MvDK is THE reason why she was even considered for Odyssey to begin with.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's weird how super defensive certain people on Ganker are about Nintendo turning a huge blind eye to Odyssey.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                How is this even remotely comparable to multiple playable appearances immediately after SMO?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Super Mario Odyssey sold over 20 million units and was a mainline appearance, something even Donkey Kong, Daisy or Wario don't even really get often. Of course Pauline was going to get a major bump after being the focal point of the entire marketing.

                The point is, people saying her appearances prior meant nothing to prop their own argument up are being massively disingenuous to an insane degree.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Great, then the initial argument of Nintendo neglecting anything related to SMO is also disingenuous.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >SM64-debut enemies appear in a ton of GCN and even Wii spinoffs, some even seeing a resurgence recently like Bullies and King Bob-Omb
                >Bowser Jr, Petey Piranha, and Piantas (shit that debuted in SMS) appear for a long time after Sunshine, still regularly appearing now (except for Piantas)
                >Rosalina immediately became a spinoff and crossover regular after Galaxy with Lumas frequently tagging along as well, and Captain Toad even got his own game
                See what all these have in common? These are all shit that came from the respective games they represent. Having a Donkey Kong Classic holdover as the sole class representative of the most ambitious and creative Mario game in a long time is such a letdown.

                Fuck sake, you Switch era fairweather Nintendo "fans" sure hate it when people criticize Nintendo's decisions.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The key difference between Mario 64+Sunshine and SMO is time and number of games being released, post Gamecube Nintendo was working with both a handheld and console market, which meant more games which meant more chances for cameos of X or Y character, Switch era does away with all of that and we're stuck with far fewer games coming out overall, and yet despite this, something from SMO is present in nearly every Mario game barring remakes, with Pauline in Mario Kart Tour and New Donk showing up in both Smash Ultimate, Toad Treasure Tracker, and Mario Golf and lastly Pauline in every Mario Sports title explicitly based off of SMO appearance.

                Anon's point is that using Pauline, a throwback character not even originating from Odyssey, where they don't even use the aspects of Odyssey redesigns (like the hat or business suit) is incredibly weak representation from Odyssey. The only thing really Odyssey they've represented is New Donk City and Pauline singing Jump Up Superstar for the umpteenth million times.

                Pauline is more of a retro throwback than anything else. Compare to how much they used to reference Sunshine or galaxy and their callbacks to Odyssey are extremely weak.

                >where they don't even use the aspects of Odyssey redesigns (like the hat or business suit) is incredibly weak representation from Odyssey.
                See the issue here is that you're entirely full of shit, characters in spinoffs routinely swap outfits for sporting events and Pauline doesn't have a marketable plushie character to carry around with her like Rosalina and Luma (Cappy fits the role but has nothing to do with her), and despite that Nintendo is very blatant about the fact that any recent Pauline appearances are very openly referencing SMO.

                Saying Pauline doesn't represent SMO because she's from the original Donkey Kong is as stupid as saying Cranky Kong doesn't represent Donkey Kong Country because he's also from the original DK, despite all his post DKC appearances being based off of DKC.

                I think the primary reason this "Nintendo neglects SMO" mindset has so much traction is entirely because we don't have a new Mario Kart title with playable Pauline and Cappy and everyone ignores the existence of Tour. Pauline/Cappy/New Donk showing up in
                >Smash Bros
                >Mario Kart Tour
                >Mario Tennis
                >Mario Strikers
                >Captain Toad
                BTFO's this awful argument, and pretending Pauline has nothing to do with SMO despite her going from tiny camoes to back to back playable appearances is just bullshit.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Bros nintendo fucking HATES SMO, see?!?!?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >NO NINTENDO REFERENCES ODYSSEY PLENTY SEE CHECK OUT ALL THESE DONKEY KONG REFERENCES

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes, my favorite Donkey Kong reference, this has nothing to do with SMO at all.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Pauline has nothing to do with Donkey Kong
                moron seriously do you struggle to remember how breathing works or something

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'm gonna blow your mind here anon, a character can reference multiple things at once. Pauline is a character that starred in Donkey Kong before getting new life breathed into her by a prominent role in SMO.
                Fuck, your logic is so retarded, you might as well say everything ever in the Mario series is just a reference to Donkey Kong because that's where Mario debuted, as if Mario himself didn't grow over time to become known for other things, you people have fucking walnut brains.

                Cappy, his race or hell any other race for that matter has yet to appear in any Mario spinoff. The only place we got it is Smash Bros. which is not much since Smash references everything

                Pauline is more of a retro throwback and doesn't even originate in Odyssey. Jump Up Superstar singing is a small touch, but really fucking small compared to how they used to represent their other games.

                New Donk City is the only thing they consistently reference in Odyssey, and it's a realistic city that looks like it could have been in any game and itself was just a throwback / reference to Big City in Donkey Kong gameboy. Your big reference being doubling as a throwback doesn't feel that great. They can do much better in Odyssey repping, and this doesn't come close to what love Sunshine and Galaxy got.

                >Cappy, his race or hell any other race for that matter has yet to appear in any Mario spinoff
                Because, again, there are far less games coming out overall, if Pauline weren't so prominent we'd have Cappy in everything. You might as well complain Rosalina has more playable appearances than Luma or Peach being playable more often than Toad.
                >Pauline is more of a retro throwback and doesn't even originate in Odyssey.
                The things Pauline became known for originated in Odyssey, before SMO, Pauline was just Mario's ex-girlfriend, now she's a Mayor and Songstress and Nintendo has run with that interpretation ever since.
                >New Donk City is the only thing they consistently reference in Odyssey
                Almost like its the crown garden gnomeel of the game and the face of all of SMO's marketing.
                >and it's a realistic city that looks like it could have been in any game
                New Donk/New Donkers being realistic is exactly why it stands out in Mario.
                > and this doesn't come close to what love Sunshine and Galaxy got.
                Because there were more consoles and more games coming out with the Gamecube/GBA, DS/Wii and 3DS/Wii U. We don't even have a new Mario Kart for Switch, just MK8D. Mario Kart alone gives you so much based off of a particular game, just looking at Double Dash and MKDS, there were so many Isle Delfino tracks, the Switch lacking that is a big strike against SMO, but that has nothing to do with Nintendo sweeping SMO under the rug and everything to do with MK8 selling morbillions.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >You might as well complain Rosalina has more playable appearances than Luma
                THEY BOTH COME FROM GALAXY YOU STUPID FUCKING gay HOLY SHIT THIS ISN'T COMPARABLE. If you want a better example (that, let's be honest, you probably already read but memoryholed out of seethe):

                >So fucking what, you retard? That character was 100% dead in the water being relegated to only showing up in Mario V DK and literally nothing else, then after SMO she's being added to every Mario Spinoff based off her SMO appearance. You idiot, you absolute buffoon.
                Imagine if the Galaxy duology's only representation was King Whomp and Throwback Galaxy. BU WHO CARE ITS THING FROM GALAXY THAS GOOD ENUFF RITE

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Cappy, his race or hell any other race for that matter has yet to appear in any Mario spinoff. The only place we got it is Smash Bros. which is not much since Smash references everything

                Pauline is more of a retro throwback and doesn't even originate in Odyssey. Jump Up Superstar singing is a small touch, but really fucking small compared to how they used to represent their other games.

                New Donk City is the only thing they consistently reference in Odyssey, and it's a realistic city that looks like it could have been in any game and itself was just a throwback / reference to Big City in Donkey Kong gameboy. Your big reference being doubling as a throwback doesn't feel that great. They can do much better in Odyssey repping, and this doesn't come close to what love Sunshine and Galaxy got.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Anon's point is that using Pauline, a throwback character not even originating from Odyssey, where they don't even use the aspects of Odyssey redesigns (like the hat or business suit) is incredibly weak representation from Odyssey. The only thing really Odyssey they've represented is New Donk City and Pauline singing Jump Up Superstar for the umpteenth million times.

                Pauline is more of a retro throwback than anything else. Compare to how much they used to reference Sunshine or galaxy and their callbacks to Odyssey are extremely weak.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit fucking THANK YOU anon, someone else gets the problem.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Odyssey is better in every way to botw, botw is such an overrated shit game

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Is it, though?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think purely from a gameplay point of view, New Donk City is the greatest video game level ever made. Nearly every facet of the level is there to complement Mario's movement and the verticality of it is excellent. I spent most of my time just goofing off in that level with the movement (webm related). There weren't any bad levels, but I don't think any of the other ones came close to New Donk.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What kind of dumb question is this? SMO is a much more contained game than BOTW, with tight level design and clear objectives, platformers in general don't have very long lasting discussion because they're just raw gameplay and very seldom have any kind of story going on (and even if they do it's not very essential to enjoying the game), so when you finish SMO all there really is to talk about is what levels you liked or mechanics you disliked, ect.
      Does this mean SMO is a 'lesser' game than BOTW? No, it played like an actual dream, Mario is all about movement and SMO had THE best movement of any Mario game, Mario controlled like butter and his whole moveset flowed together seamlessly, I remember multiple times I'd find my self just running and jumping around New Donk because Mario himself was pure fun to control.

      BOTW meanwhile was very open world and very open ended which gives you a ton of stuff to talk about, not to mention much more emphasis on the storyline, on top of it being such a departure from the standard Zelda formula that there's always something to praise or complain about in regards to it.
      IMO both games are really good, but one leads itself more to discussion than the other, that's really all there is to it.

      Sick jump, dude.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty neutral on odyssey but I disliked how many buttons it's involved to do a cap throw/dive, there has to have been a simpler way.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's 2 presses, anon. 1 if you use motion controls.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They waste a lot of button real estate on duplicates. Fucking four out of the eight major buttons (B/A/Y/X/L/R/LZ/RZ) are wasted.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I hate when games waste buttons like that, or when they waste them on lame functions like Ninja Gaiden eternal camera fixing button or Netherrealm studios useless posture changing button.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When is Mario: Open World happening?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      NINTENDO

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        With the crouch dash 64 added 2x the distance with 60 fps it would be pure kino mountain hops.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      While I think an open world platformer has some merit to it (ironically because of my experience with Death Stranding), I feel like it would require an almost impossible amount of level planning to make it really engaging. Death Stranding gets around this by not really being a platformer in any sort of traditional way but still focusing heavily on movement based gameplay. If there was a developer who I would trust with making an open world platformer, it would be Nintendo though.

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't need it.
    It's a great game, no controversial opinions about it.

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No followup of any kind, modding community not as active or previlent

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's a great game, but Nintendo seems to actively ignore its existence. They've done more to promote 3D World than Odyssey.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Luigi Balloon mode?

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it more because it had actual good variety. It may have a ton of shitty filler moons, but doesn't detract from the fact that it has a lot of good moons. I do hope to see a return to quality over quantity approach next time, and more difficult challenges.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ODYSSEY SUCKS!! SONIC FORCES WAS WAY BETTER!!!!!!! WHAT? YOU WANT TO KNOW MY REASONING???? FUCK YOU! I WON'T TELL YOU!!!!

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    people who don't like Mario Odyssey are the kind of basic morons that do nothing but the basic jump and long jump and move at a snail's pace.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Give me some actual platforming then instead of forcing them player to make their own jumps, there's hardly any in odyssey.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I agree, but there are a bunch of endgame moons that need more advanced jumps, and tons of moons where you can skip the capture to do an optional challenge.

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Mario Odyssey is a great game that was poorly targeted to the demographics of the console. The switch sold almost entirely to core adult gamers. Very few kids or elderly people bought it. It did not do a lot to appeal to that core audience. It's a very easy and simple game without much depth. Technically the movement system has a lot of depth, but the game never makes you use that outside of the completely optional balloon minigame. The only reward the game ever gives you for abusing the movement mechanics is a few hidden coins, basically a kick in the face to skilled players. There's also virtually no difficulty in the game at all, it's by far the easiest 3D Mario game.

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    To add, even the New Donk City referencing is a bit of a problem because of how tied it is to Pauline, which herself is much more of a retro callback

    Bonneters, Shiverians and Lochladies not even showing up as audience members or something is bizarre.

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because it wasn't baby's first open world game

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Name one game with better movement than SMO.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      bubsy 3d

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The one I play on your mom.

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's honestly one of the most boring ass games I've ever played. How in the fuck do people like this? And I am not even an anti-Mario fag or anything. I enjoyed the older Mario stuff from the 90s and Gamecube era

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It's GOAT but doesn't attract as many shitposters

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    both games are amazing to play when youre under the influence of cannabis.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It was great and felt great, wouldnt mind some season pass with more worlds.

    But i hope one day they make another 64. Not a remake, or remade, or remaster,just the castle with paintings idea, getting stars whatever order you want and worlds the way 64 did instead of being stuck to a world for a couple missions. It doesnt need to have the nonsense of 999 moons though, it was interesting in SMO but i dont want that to see that soon

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >No dlc
    >Shitty collectathon even by collectathon standards

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      But enough about DK64.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        DK64 is such a dogshit game and I don't get why it's got such an insane defense force. Well, nostalgia, yes.
        >was nothing like the original DKC games, not in gameplay nor in music (Kirkhope's music is fine in a vacuum but is a huge downgrade from Wise's DKC1/2 music and even Fischer's DKC3 music)
        >did not learn the lessons of SM64 or Banjo Kazooie, and took checklist collectathon gameplay to its logical extreme with the insane quantity of basic collectibles and the variety OF types of collectibles to find (it's insane that SMO has 999 Moons on top of its other collectibles and still doesn't come anywhere close to how much shit there is in DK64)
        >too many minigames standing in for actual gameplay, and too many repeats (often of shittier ones)

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    odyssey is definitely better and refined, botw feels aimless imo

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      LOL

  56. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    bing

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