Why do the top designs work but the bottom designs don't?

Why do the top designs work but the bottom designs don't?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they're not jobmons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The bottom are quadruped jobmon

      All of these pokemon equally suck

      They all work, anons. Stop seething. It is not good for your long term health.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They all work
        samurott is the most nonfunctional design in the series

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Now explain, without seething, how this is somehow less functional than rillaboom leaving its drum behind to fight at all.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >how this is somehow less functional
            It can't walk.

            >than rillaboom leaving its drum behind to fight
            Rillaboom doesn't need to leave its drum behind to fight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It can't walk.
              That image shows it can though.
              >doesn't need to leave it's drum behind to fight
              It's clearly hindered by logging it around though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >That image shows it can though
                The image that shows it not walking?

                >It's clearly hindered by logging it around though.
                Nope. It can actually move and use it as a bludgeoning weapon or simply store it on its back while Samurott is just stuck being stationary like a moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The image that shows it not walking?
                The image that shows it's perfectly capable of walking with its leg structure and range of mobility, yes.
                >Rillaboom can use it as a weapon!
                It only works when he's beating it into the ground standing in one place, which sucks for large dynamic battles where he has to dodge as well and return to the drum. Back storage makes hi less mobile and much heavier.
                >stuck being stationary
                Stop posting fanfics that images have already disproved ITT.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >w-what about rillaboom??!
            >checkmate hahahahahhahahha
            They’re both shit, moron.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They’re both non-functional. I’ve been shitting on both for years. Next.

              Nice pivot. Meanwhile, that image shows Samurott is fine, while no one can defend Rillaboom.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >image shows Samurott is fine
                It doesn’t. It’s a still where it looks about to fall over.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pangolins always look like they're about to fall over but they walk on 2 legs perfectly fine. You can't actually tell how their hips and pelvis are structured or how much each part of the body weighs just from looking.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but they walk on 2 legs perfectly fine
                Yes because they don’t have fricking flipper legs moronicly splayed to the side like Samurott and it also has a massive tail to balance itself out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >moronicly splayed to the side
                ??? explain

                Now explain, without seething, how this is somehow less functional than rillaboom leaving its drum behind to fight at all.

                literally having human proportions. Stop posting your fanfic everywhere.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They’re both non-functional. I’ve been shitting on both for years. Next.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >how this is somehow less functional
          It can't walk.

          >than rillaboom leaving its drum behind to fight
          Rillaboom doesn't need to leave its drum behind to fight.

          Samurott looks like a pool toy with that pose

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The bottom are quadruped jobmon

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All of these pokemon equally suck

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      samurott is a good design

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    all good designs except persian

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based. my mom's cat sucks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Salamence and Persian are the most boring, generic "my mom's cat/my mom's dragon" designs possible. Especially disappointing for Salamence since Bagon and Shelgon actually had some interesting ideas going on. Also Salamence's colour scheme is extremely unappealing and combined with the simplistic wing shape makes it look like a shitty plastic toy.

      Ursaluna looks like shit with the eyebrows and the way that it's constantly caked in mud is just gross. Also they way it's forced into quadrupedal posture despite clearly having a biped structure just makes it look pained all the time. It's a hundred times more awkward than Samurott in that regard. Bloodmoon looks pretty good though. I think a lot of my issues with Ursaluna may just be that its colour scheme and texture came out looking really bad with PLA's art style though, it might look better in the newer games.

      Samurott suffers from its awkward posture and stance though I don't think going full biped would be the proper fix. H-Samurott solved those issues and I think is a perfect refinement of the design.

      Skeledirge is okay but suffers a lot from the colour scheme and flames (probably unintentionally?) giving it a balding old man look. It does however look a hundred times better in motion and especially with audio, whoever did the sound design for Torch Song was a genius.

      Overall Skeledirge>Samurott>Persian>Salamence>Ursaluna.

      based. my mom's cat sucks.

      salamence and persian would get so much shit if they came out today

      Persian does not work. All Kanto Meowth look better unevolved

      All Persian haters are equatorials who cannot fathom the excellence of the quadruped masterace.
      You "people" are simply too unevolved to appreciate the high art that is the Persian form.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That Ursaring looks gay and moronic

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Samurott looks like a pool toy with that pose

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Samurott bros...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Average unova mon body shape

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Samurott bros...

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursuluna does not fricking work Jesus christ get that abomination out of my sight

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Salamence and Samurott are the only good designs here

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't like ursaluna i don't like how the clouds make him look like he's raising one eyebrow at me all the time i think it looks dumb and not cool or ferocious like the rest of his design is trying to do. i like dirge though i think he looks cool. i like the colors on his nose they remind me of how fire changes color depending on how hot it is and i like that it's colorful and pretty.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Samurott: sword
    >Skeledirge: lips for teeth, geometry mismatch, overdesigned by having too many inspirations
    Massive shame for both, they could've been great with a few adjustments.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PLA fixed it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >DUDE IT HAS RED AND BLACK ARMOR NOW LMAO
        >LET'S MAKE A DARK TYPE BECAUSE RED AND BLACK = EVIL LMAOOOOOO
        regional variants were a fricking mistake and they ruined samurott
        the original was fine as it was

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this

        >DUDE IT HAS RED AND BLACK ARMOR NOW LMAO
        >LET'S MAKE A DARK TYPE BECAUSE RED AND BLACK = EVIL LMAOOOOOO
        regional variants were a fricking mistake and they ruined samurott
        the original was fine as it was

        >he fell for le honorable samurai meme

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          stop defending gamefreak's laziness
          regional variants are an excuse for them to just change colors and slap facial hair on already existing pokemon rather than making new designs

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    samurottard thread

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursaluna is the worst out of all those though.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Salamence and Persian are the most boring, generic "my mom's cat/my mom's dragon" designs possible. Especially disappointing for Salamence since Bagon and Shelgon actually had some interesting ideas going on. Also Salamence's colour scheme is extremely unappealing and combined with the simplistic wing shape makes it look like a shitty plastic toy.

    Ursaluna looks like shit with the eyebrows and the way that it's constantly caked in mud is just gross. Also they way it's forced into quadrupedal posture despite clearly having a biped structure just makes it look pained all the time. It's a hundred times more awkward than Samurott in that regard. Bloodmoon looks pretty good though. I think a lot of my issues with Ursaluna may just be that its colour scheme and texture came out looking really bad with PLA's art style though, it might look better in the newer games.

    Samurott suffers from its awkward posture and stance though I don't think going full biped would be the proper fix. H-Samurott solved those issues and I think is a perfect refinement of the design.

    Skeledirge is okay but suffers a lot from the colour scheme and flames (probably unintentionally?) giving it a balding old man look. It does however look a hundred times better in motion and especially with audio, whoever did the sound design for Torch Song was a genius.

    Overall Skeledirge>Samurott>Persian>Salamence>Ursaluna.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my mom's dragon

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my mom's dragon

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    salamence and persian would get so much shit if they came out today

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The all have official "if they were designed today" variants and they are all worse, so they are definitely better than modern designs 1:1.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bottom two rely on standing on their hind legs to do anything, Their gimmick contradicts their design. Therefore, they're fake quadrupedals.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon there are plenty of real animals that walk and rest on all fours but stand up to do things like eating or fighting. Does the fact that an anteater stands up to tear down a termite mound "contradict its design"?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a big difference between standing up to perform a task and doing so in active combat. The croc I can buy since it's a long range attacker, but a quadrupedal swordsman with arm sheaths can only work if it doesn't also use the same arms to hold the swords, otherwise it has to choose between moving around and holding its weapons. Not to mention it looks stupid when standing up, animators have to change the rules of how its body works just to carry on with the scene.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a samurai, it doesn't need to move around a ton. It's like the anime trope where someone unsheathes their sword and instantly kills a man standing 20 feet away.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your criticism is negated by it being able to get around bipedal. Also, anatomy wasn't changed. That's just your cope for it working when you think it can't.

          Samurott literally can’t fight while standing up which is why it’s never shown doing so in the games.

          Them not showing it =/= the design can't do it. That's an extremely moronic logic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >by it being able to get around bipedal
            It can't get around bipedally.

            >Them not showing it =/= the design can't do it
            In this case that's exactly what it means.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >It can't get around bipedally.
              Prove it.
              >that's exactly what it means
              No it isn't. That's objectively stupid. If they never animated Machamp to do a pushup, would that mean he's incapable of doing one? What about Rillaboom walking? If the body allows for it and nothing is in the way, the design can do it fine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Samurott literally can’t fight while standing up which is why it’s never shown doing so in the games.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Ursaluna
    >working
    it failed so hard it got cut from sv before being replace with a better bipedal design in the teal mask dlc

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Samurott doesn't have to use swords to fight. It gets megahorn. Aqua jet and liquidation don't really imply a need for swords either. Hisui is the one who gets sharpness.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The original was even more of a special attacker than physical.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Persian does not work. All Kanto Meowth look better unevolved

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, I was always disappointed
      >bakeneko/axoatoal thing becomes generic pather with no distinguishing features
      WTF?

      Ursaluna is fricking stupid too, but we got bloodmoon which is much better.

      Salamence the only one the only one that's alright because it's in the air.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >axoatoal
        Are you moronic?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ursalina has a derpy face that's unintimidating and Ursuring is still cooler looking first off
    Anyway, Sammurrott is definitely too much of a departure and both evos of whatever that new fire type is sucks. Zoomeds are brainwashed

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's amazing how good Salamence's design is
    One mega and a Paradox later, they still can't match it

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >LET'S TAKE URSARING AND THEN PLASTER ALL THAT NASTY GREY SHIT ON IT LMAOOOOOOO
    new variants/evolutions of older pokemon that didn't exist until after gen 4/when the 3d era started were a mistake

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Salamance: Can fly
    Ursaluna: It's a bear and can still stand on it hind legs if needs to
    Persian: It's a cat, it still fights with its claws like it did before. Also Meowth are supposed to be quadrupedal, the one from the anime was a special case

    Samurott: Entire fighting style revolves around using swords, but it looks awkward and clumsy while doing so
    Skeledirge: Works fine for the most part, it only needs to stand up to sing

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Samurott swims

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Works fine for the most part, it only needs to stand up to
      So, just like Samurott?

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