Why do you hate self inserting so much?

Don't you want to deeply get immersed in the games amazing fantasy world?
Don't you want to become part of the world?
Would you rather just limit yourself to playing as a generic trope than being yourself?
I really don't get why people on here hate self inserting so much. It seems like the more fun way to play the game.

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  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    ywnbaw

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    self inserting is such a bullshit non-issue in video games; it's a concept applied to writing not an interactive medium where you are controlling a character

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Still doesn't apply to written shit.

      It implies you have broken with reality but being able to imagine things doesn't involve breaking with reality.

    • 1 week ago
      Santa Claus

      I think it's impossible to self insert into a book or movie because it is about a set character and you have no agency at all over any of his actions and I am totally OK with that.

      Making a character who looks like me just means making a generic brown-haired white guy, and I can't realistically pretend that the resulting character is "literally" me. I don't have the experience of walking through the game world myself, just the experience of watching a character I control do so. If full-dive VR ever becomes a thing, that'd be different, but currently, it's not more "immersive" or "realistic" or any other such words to be playing as a generic white dude over any other race/sex combination.

      If anything, it just seems incredibly smooth-brained to be all "I can't get immersed in this game, the player character doesn't look like me!" like the self-inserters.

      Having a fantasy world at your disposal where just about anything is possible and choosing to be a 1:1 recreation of what you are right now because you cannot empathize with anyone or anything else is such an unimaginative hylic thing to do.

      I don't mean creating a character that looks like myself. That would be impossible in most games.
      My vessel trough which I enter the world can look like anything. I think of self inserting as more about how you behave in the game world. Are you yourself or do you force yourself to play a trope?

      pic

      Fugly picture

      You're not supposed to roleplay as yourself, in fact then you're not playing any role at all. You're just being you. That's boring and uncreative. Use the opportunity to create a new persona with its own wants and motivations and backstory, if you want to roleplay. Having said that, videogames at the current stage of technology aren't really dynamic and reactive enough to be able to react and fully integrate player roleplaying into a game. One day, a combo of proc gen and maybe AI might make it possible to fully mold a game around the roleplaying of the player.

      But when limiting yourself to just some trope character, you lose the amazing feeling of diving into the fantasy world and becoming one with your character.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    OP said self inserting.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Ohhhhhhh yeah
      hehheheheheh

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >randomise appearance
    That's as long as I'm willing to give your character creator, now let me play.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >not using character creator to make the cutest, smallest girl possible
      Enjoy playing as a nog
      Self inserting is for gays btw. I just want to play as cute girls.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Just watch porn

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          why? Perhaps part of his fetish is having direct control of the action?

          I'm autistic, so it's only natural to self-insert. I don't try to make a character that looks like me (too much effort anyway), but they don't even have to be the same species for me to put myself in the shoes of that character.

          >I'm autistic
          >I don't try to make a character that looks like me (too much effort anyway)

          You are not autistic you are a "quirky" normalgay in denial

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >you are a "quirky" normalgay in denial
            I was diagnosed literally 30 years ago. Self avatars have never been an essential part to roleplay, 1:1 recreations are straight up more of a normie thing (probably).

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Then they fricked you up, your family and/or Doctors,

              I’m an autist and it’s the opposite. How can I self insert? I don’t live in that video game world, I live in my world. That isn’t me, it’s a character like when I read a book or watch a movie. It doesn’t logically make sense for the character to be me, so when a game has a character creator, I’m just going to make a character.

              this is more over the target of how their mind works. They can't imagine a chair they have to think of a very specific one in their lives, it's why the low functioning ones lose their shit when you rearrange a room, to their mind it's something completely different now.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Porn is degenerate. I like playing fun video games and I like cute girls, especially so the game has good looking gear

          I see your point, but I think there's something to be said for buff warrior ladies in heavy armor.

          If you're a homosexual maybe. Small cute girls in heavy armor is fine though

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Porn is degenerate. I like playing fun video games and I like cute girls, especially so the game has good looking gear
            You are degenerate if you prefere gooning to supe ugly girls over an immersive experience.

            >If you're a homosexual maybe. Small cute girls in heavy armor is fine though
            """Cute""" girls in heavy armor are stupid and make no sense. The armor is too heavy would crushes their own bones. And if it doesn't, the first puny goblin will kidnap or kill you. It's just a fetish fantasy that belongs exclusively to porn games.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >gooning
              I fap maybe once a week at most
              >fetish fantasy
              Anon you really should stop watching porn. These complaints also make me think you don't like anime, remember this is an anime website

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I see your point, but I think there's something to be said for buff warrior ladies in heavy armor.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone can play as themselves.
    It's low IQ when you can't roleplay or emphasize.
    That's why you can't teach the majority of [N] to not rob, mug and kill.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't hate it, I just don't do it. The selfinserters appear to believe everybody plays that way, but they're wrong.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Inability to see a different perspective
    >No I gotta insert myself instead and have the MC act according to MY perspective
    This is why we can't play Stalin and Mao in Civ any more, only the 'safe' dickheads like Gengis and Montezuma.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Making a character who looks like me just means making a generic brown-haired white guy, and I can't realistically pretend that the resulting character is "literally" me. I don't have the experience of walking through the game world myself, just the experience of watching a character I control do so. If full-dive VR ever becomes a thing, that'd be different, but currently, it's not more "immersive" or "realistic" or any other such words to be playing as a generic white dude over any other race/sex combination.

    If anything, it just seems incredibly smooth-brained to be all "I can't get immersed in this game, the player character doesn't look like me!" like the self-inserters.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Roleplaying, "it's a game of pretend"... whatever. This thing is just a way to turn normal people into NPCs.

    I am smart so I figured it out.

    Here, take this picture. It's your ticket to becoming normal again.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nice picture, moron.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      pic

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >wojak
    >IQ
    Stufu tard. Go back
    >

    [...]

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not an anime-watching homosexual obsessed with isekais so I can find enjoyment in games playing a character.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You don't even have the right meme for this, type 5

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm autistic, so it's only natural to self-insert. I don't try to make a character that looks like me (too much effort anyway), but they don't even have to be the same species for me to put myself in the shoes of that character.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I’m an autist and it’s the opposite. How can I self insert? I don’t live in that video game world, I live in my world. That isn’t me, it’s a character like when I read a book or watch a movie. It doesn’t logically make sense for the character to be me, so when a game has a character creator, I’m just going to make a character.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think people hate it so much as they don't see the need to do it. You should apply yourself to your real world and make games outlets to be something you don't want to be in the real world but would like to experience.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You're not supposed to roleplay as yourself, in fact then you're not playing any role at all. You're just being you. That's boring and uncreative. Use the opportunity to create a new persona with its own wants and motivations and backstory, if you want to roleplay. Having said that, videogames at the current stage of technology aren't really dynamic and reactive enough to be able to react and fully integrate player roleplaying into a game. One day, a combo of proc gen and maybe AI might make it possible to fully mold a game around the roleplaying of the player.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I think it gets weird when people want to self insert as meat puppets that don't even have personalities in games like Dark Souls or Elder Scrolls.

    • 1 week ago
      Santa Claus

      >combo of proc gen and maybe AI
      Lol, funny troll!

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I get you got a good amount of (You)s with this bit in the Yuri game thread but do you really think this is the time to try and make a dedicated thread on the topic?

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Self-inserters lack empathy and that's why they can't understand why some people prefer playing characters other than themselves...

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's a real good point, to be obsessed playing as yourself always would lead you to be the type of person that would lack empathy and understanding needed to survive in group and you'll just end up as dead space in your parents house for the rest of your life.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Are you sure that's what you want?

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Having a fantasy world at your disposal where just about anything is possible and choosing to be a 1:1 recreation of what you are right now because you cannot empathize with anyone or anything else is such an unimaginative hylic thing to do.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      or worse a 1:1 recreation of what you are right now but thin/fit/attractive

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      When I make a character exactly like me irl (a cute anime girl with big breasts) it's based.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If we're talking about choosing what you yourself would choose regarding story branches and quest outcomes, that's what I think most people do in their first playthrough of any RPGs
    In subsequent playthroughs I try doing stuff I haven't already done

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Self inserting is for people that read manga with titles like:
    >”I Was an Office Worker Until I got Transported to Another World as a Level 100 Dragon Knight and Saved the Kingdom.”
    Of course I don’t respect self inserters.

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Self inserting is for high IQ chads

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    When I get cishet egirl panties wet in ffxiv I am 100% self-inserting but never really in-character ERP. It's usually on discord or snapchat anyways.

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >this character is my digital puppet
    do people actually say that

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