Why do zoomers hate turn based combat?

Why do zoomers hate turn based combat?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some older people hate it too, must be adhd or something

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I legit have ADHD and prefer turn based combat because it's easier to play the game while watching something else.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zoomers love BG3 and pokemon though?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Santa Claus

      >zoomers love BG3
      Only because they are all zoophile scum.
      They don't care about the gameplay as long as you can frick bears.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are mentally ill.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Santa Claus

          how many hours of that game are spent fricking bears vs turn based combat?

          Both are zoophilia games

          Nobody buys BG3 for the gameplay.

          Only zoophile zoomer scum buys (or pirates) BG3.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Proved my point.
            Fricking clowns everywhere, go play suicide squad.
            Bg3 has good gameplay, story, characters, locations and music.
            You are a sjw troony and that`s a fact.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Santa Claus

              At least you are ashamed enough to deny that you wanna frick bears.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Being such an effeminate homosexual you're threatened by other people fricking bears
                I'll frick the bear, Black person, it's the most important scene after all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Santa Claus

                It's animal abuse

                if i had to guess, there is probably only 2% of the player base that fricked the bear

                More like 200%

                strategy, reactivity, having taste, it's the only real modern rpg in a sea of fake ass action games pretending to be rpgs

                >HURR DURR BEARSEX GAME IS ONLY REAL RPG. YOU MUST BE ABLE TO FRICK BERAS OR ITS A FAAAAKE RPG!!!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ignorance doesn't make you funny or cool, you're just cucking yourself out of fun

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                He is probably chuckling like a moron while writing this shit, that`s what mentally ill people find funny.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                "People" who bait like (You) as bad as bearfrickers.
                Halsin did nothing wrong BLM(Bears live matters)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Santa Claus

                >Bears live matters
                >Wants to abuse bears

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Learn to understand what you read perhaps.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >shitposter larp as an animal right activist.
                KEK, that a new one

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Say one more thing about bears you samegayging moron and im gonna romance Halsin.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Alright, this bait is boring as frick, I'm out.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >People shit on the horrible story past act 1 and horrible gameplay of BG3
              >No other AAA open world games to play on PC, so zoomers bought it
              >Only thing ppl mention about BG3 is the coomer Stuff
              >Most Zoomers ditched it for Palworld which sold 15 million in 3 weeks despite being on Gamepass.
              >Did so great that Hasbro sold DnD to Tencent, because Larian didnt have enough money
              >Hasbro also reported massive losses despite funding it.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Popular zoomer games are palworld, BG3, and Pokémon. What do they all have in common? Zoomers want to frick animals

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how many hours of that game are spent fricking bears vs turn based combat?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "bear fricking" is literally code for "I haven't played the game"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Santa Claus

            Why would I play such a sacrilegious game?

            Bears don't like being fricked by humans.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              strategy, reactivity, having taste, it's the only real modern rpg in a sea of fake ass action games pretending to be rpgs

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not enough to keep 80% of the customers entertained consider less than 20% of the people who bought it finished the game

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if i had to guess, there is probably only 2% of the player base that fricked the bear

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine BG3 had StarCraft asiaticclicker controls.... DOA.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what's with the influx on namegays and tripgays i've been seeing. i stopped browsing for like a month

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          people like you and other 2016 Reddit tourists stopped browsing so we've experienced a slight return to form

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >defending namegays
            >reddit reddit reddit
            ohhh no no no

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        be silent, uppity nameBlack person

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both are zoophilia games

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      palworld proved pokemon fans like the games in spite of the combat, not because of it

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don’t, they play Pokémon and DnD.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They dont, they just hate old ass 90's turn based combat thats basic
    garbage like DQ11

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love turn based but I can understand why people hate it, 99% of games using it are "spam your better option mindlessly" shit that's not interesting. Reduce the encounter rate by 1000% and make your combat system as deep as chess and now you get turn-BASED.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      normalgays hate chess

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chess requires good imagination so its not fun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Chess became a normalgay fad because youtubers started playing it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        t. needs to go out and touch grass

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the most boring form of combat and any game that's not a strategy/tactical one relying on the mechanic can safely be discarded as irrelevant trash. It really is that simple.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    zoomers love Civ
    maybe they just don't like turn based that's slop?

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like turn based but i really think it doesn`t suit any FF games at all.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best way to balance turn based games is to also give the playable characters elemental weaknesses, and not just the enemies.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It isn't TBC, it's Final Fantasy. XIII fricked everything up by taking X-2's system and ruining it. They don't do Turn-based because they need to rework it from the ground up. Their ARPG games are so fricking generic it's blatant how much is being recycle behind the scenes.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Persona 5
    >BG3
    >zoomer chess craze
    Consumer bases of that size will like what they're fricking told to like by cultural forces like marketing and celebs.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was born 1980 (cusp gen x - millennial) and NEVER touched a turn-based game (only played 2d platformers, fps, fighting games, action games in general). You get totally taken out of immersion if you have to open menu's and choose an action. It's not action at all. It's for (lazy) players that want to play a more passive style of games. It's more like watching a TV show and using occasionally the remote to go into menus and switch channels etc. Not really gaming, IMO.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, to each their own.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >get totally taken out of immersion if you have to open menu's and choose an action
      I get everyone has preferences but this is a pure skill issue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some games require motor function, some games require brain function. It's called "strategy" and it existed before video games.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess immersion is something that only people who play for the story seek. When I boot a game I want my brain challenged, making compositions, doing some calculations and stuff. That's also why I never play JRPGs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That's also why I never play JRPGs
        lol the only jrpg series I like is megaten, has just enough going on to not bore me to death but that's a once in a decade release if I'm lucky.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      /thread
      Go play real strategy games like civ
      Even advance wars and fire emblem have more depth than the average troony turn-based RPG

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You definitely weren’t born in 1980 you actual zoomer homosexual

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers love Star Rail though.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All they had to do was put a man shoving his dick into another man's butthole, sliding his penis back & forth until he ejaculates inside mixing semen with poop particles to get the zoomer audience but no they made it into an action game with no anal penetration whatsoever.
    Fricking idiots.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Some companies never learn. Nintendo missed the same opportunity in the newest mario game

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Take the turn-based combat out of FF
    >Make a bunch of NotFF games with turn-based combat that still sell in the several millions even without the brand name

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >be surprised bravely default sells well in the west
      >sell a bunch of bravely default style games that all sell relatively well
      >turn the most well known turn based game franchise into a action game causing it to flop
      >make a shit ton of games that get no marketing & get sent to market to die
      I get the impression that whatever profits they make gets kneecapped by these absurdly moronic decisions.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't, Yoshita is a moron.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't. In fact, they love them citing Persona 5 being their favorite game and continuing to support Pokemon.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Implying square was going to bring turn based back
    They'd probably bring back something like original 7 or 10-2's combat and say it's turn based

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    four homies in a row combat fricking sucks and you know it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wrong I enjoy it therefore it's good

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In a row* is a key phrase. It`s not even tactical, just slow and boring.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's fricking boring. JRPG turn based combat happens in a vacuum, there's no environment, no movement, just two parties beating on each other mindlessly. You don't ever have to strategize how to take an enemy down, where to go, what gear to use other than what has biggest number, what party composition works best, etc. The Japanese can't imagine anything more than basic shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying western slop is different
      kek
      Enjoy your movie games trannies. All RPGs are bad games. Imagine thinking Fallout or TES games have good gameplay.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >pokemon removes the rpg part, on course to sell 50 million
    >final fantasy removes the rpg part, worst game ever created
    It's kind of bizarre.
    I've always thought Pokemon's success was part of what scared Square away from trying to compete which makes no fricking sense since they were otherwise dominant.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The only turn-based game I have ever enjoyed is Child of Light because- while it was turn-based, the turns were based on a visible timeline that you could affect to give yourself an advantage.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re brown. Low IQ.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's not enough going on in a 4NIAR RPG to justify turn-based combat. Tactics or bust.
    t. X-Piratez enjoyer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What about 4 homies bussin it down tactical style

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Too dragged out to be enjoyable

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like the pacing, it ruined the next rpg I played because they don't stop and discuss things enough kek

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didnt hate it, but it was just too much padding. Didnt help that the story was a bit stupid at times regarding the fighting and strength of some characters. I prefer Stuff like Xanadu Next.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              My Falcom backlog is massive but I'll get to it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I absolutely adored it. It had an interconnected world with pretty engaging combat with a decent story and god the ost was beautiful. I still listen to the soundtracks of that game a lot.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that shit is fire fr fr no cap

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They love it, which is why BG3 was successful and FF16 was a flop.

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    low attention span
    Same reason the age of strategies and RTS games is over, around the appearance of phones.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Santa Claus

      Real DnD is better because you don't get forced to frick bears.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DnD sucks balls, because it usually involves some serious ego trips and fetish pushing. The bear thing is a symptom of that.
        I've seen IRL DnD sessions devolve into that more than once.

        Strategy games are simply superior

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I didn`t even saw anyone taking Halsing into squad, let alone romancing him.
          This choice is most likely for girls, makes sense.

          Real DnD is better because you don't get forced to frick bears.

          Show me where this bear has touched you, actually don`t, yeah.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I've seen IRL DnD sessions devolve into that more than once.
          I would've never imagined in my wildest dreams that dnd would have beastiality but then the last time I saw a campaign being played was over 15 years ago & a lot has changed since then.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that headline makes no sense because XV wasn't turn-based either

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't.

    Suits just hate the idea that they aren't doing all they can to hit their target demographic.
    Some will literally make up statistics to base decisions off of, to seem like they know what they're doing, instead of having a personal opinion.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they don't play games.
    They watch others play games, and turn-based isn't a very enjoyable spectator activity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Turn based does not= tactical.
      Turn based sucks that`s why they changed it. It just drags the time and makes no sense in the games context.
      >Im le Claude and can jump and dodge and fast so ill just wait for my turn...

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is this Black person living under a rock? people are still playing turn based combat, mobile games are filled to the brim with turn based. I thought these gays listen to the data.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who told you Japanese people listen to data? They mostly listen to people 1 year older than them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's South Korea.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They have fricking idea what "younger generations" want, recent Yakuza games changed to turn based and they were a huge success.

    Point, just make fun, well designed games, everything else is marketing bullshit.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do zoomers hate turn based combat?
    Low IQ, ADHD and other mental disabilities.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >BG3 a turn based game
      >BG3 wins GOTY
      >BG3 sells a ton
      >still has a ton of players
      I think that Final Fantasy goofed. Turn based combat is clearly not an issue.

      Turn based doesn`t mean tactical ffs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right it means turn-based... which all of those games are

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't. Square have no idea what their fans want anymore and have failed to realize the KH/Versus XIII fanbase is basically dead now so no one wants action combat outside of spinoffs like Stranger of Paradise maybe.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Riot said that zoomers hate mouse and click to moves cause it's too slow. Zoomers prefer wasd because it's instantly.
    Fricking mouse and click. Zoomer are so fricked in the head with ADHD and shit, they couldn't even wait for the characters to move with mouse and click. It has to be WASD and instant.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe if idiot gen x and millenial developers weren't
      so eager to bend over for them and just made the controls right they'd be forced to adapt their preferences.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ayyoo boomer games have always been for kids. U are just side effect duh

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      LoL doesn't have characters intertia they respond instantly to click. It. One th big selling point of the LoL though people and DotA players are not aware of this fact.

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Zoomers want both turns otherwise they feel oppressed

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >BG3 a turn based game
    >BG3 wins GOTY
    >BG3 sells a ton
    >still has a ton of players
    I think that Final Fantasy goofed. Turn based combat is clearly not an issue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      JRPGs turn based combat is issue. Its primitive lacks depth. No movement= bad design.
      Turn based combat like in BG3, XCOM, HoMM when characters move during combat is good design.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The lack of depth is true. You can have depth without movement though. The induvial battles are going to be shallow but if you make resource management tight and throw lots of curve balls you end up with a dungeon crawler where the depth is about the endurance.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, that was a major factor going back to dragon quest 1 that got minimized somewhat in the high story period

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Game mechanics don't have to be deep they just have to be enjoyable and support the experience as a whole, sometimes that's comfy or story or atmosphere.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Japan just can't make a good turn based game unfortunately.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's antiquated and pointless, if i wanted dnd i would play dnd. that form of gameplay does not translate to video at all. its not even a zoomer thing, turn-based games died for me and many others in 1986 when the first Zelda game came out. i'll take that game over any Final Fantasy any day of the week. Souls over Dragon Quest, etc

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't, Yoshi-P is just a moron who needs to touch some grass. All the zoomers I know literally love shit like Persona 5, are hyped for P3 Reloaded, played the shit out of BG3 and so on. Even ones that like Final Fantasy X and hate XVI kek.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All the zoomers I know literally love shit like Persona 5, are hyped for P3 Reloaded, played the shit out of BG3 and so on. Even ones that like Final Fantasy X and hate XVI kek.
      They are usually the same people who turn around and say turn based is outdated and trash too.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one likes Persona 5 for the turn based combat.
        They like it because it's a highschool girlfriend simulator.

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do boomers like turn based combat?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People like coming up with a strategy and winning.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun idk, I just savor the slow pace and chill. I like action games too if it's not too modern, Ys is one of my favorite series alongside Trails/Kiseki.

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >square game design based on perception of audience desires
    definition of soulless. soulful games create desire.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Final Fantasy never had good turn based combat. It had battles where you press the "attack" command, and watch overly flashy animations.
    People like it, because they have that brain defect where they don't want to play an actual video game, or use their brains. They just want to arrange four dolls in a row, and watch the number go up.

    You know what game has good turn based combat? Poker. Chess is pretty good too.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your a fricking moron you would die in any late FF game if you applied this mindset in your tactics. Try to play FF4 with this stupidity you will get destroyed by Mysidia if you dont employ any sort of tactics in your turn based conbat.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I never played an FF game for more than like the first quarter, because they're boring. Maybe that's the problem. Stop packing your game full of boring grind, and maybe I'll get something out of them.

        Like, you know if you play a game of X-Com, it's immediately engaging, and immediately asking you to use your brain, and make decisions on the fly?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Funny, I only played xcom for a few minutes before I tapped out to boredom. It'd be cool if we could have each others' experiences.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>ree muh tactics in babby turdbased RPG
        >use le firagay on ice guy
        4niar is a system designed for literal braindead morons&children with -motor function, copelet

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >le elemental weaknesses
          Frick off

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >thinking good turn based combat exists
      >using chess as an example

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right. FF is Movie Slop: Japan with clicker game mechanics.
      Weebs have convinced themselves it is the thinking man's games because the Madden kids bullied them.

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    turn based combat is for DnD and tabletop games, its BORING as frick, you aren't a fraction as smart as you think you are if you're "good" at it. Go play chess.

    It used to be "good" when other forms of gameplay were platformers and 2D fighting games, the other genres have progressed and offer more, turn based doesnt.

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can't wait to see Squeenix bend the knee and make a turn based FF game
    and it fails even harder than the last 5 games

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Square cannot suffer enough.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They just need to get good writers, honestly. I played a bit of 16, and it was the same old embarrassing shonen garbo. The combat feels pretty good, but I'm not drawn into this narrative whatsoever.

      There's a reason people are gravitating so hard toward Yakuza these days. They're these legitimately fun little crime dramas, with characters who like and stuff. It's not "the tragedy of the prince of the fire farts", as if anyone gives a frick.
      >FATHER, I SHALL... REVENGE YOU...
      >GIVE ME THE PHOENIX TEARS, BARNABUS! RELINQUISH THE EARTH SOUL!
      Who cares? Shut up.

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/GameBreaker/FinalFantasy

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turn-based is more engaging than selecting an attack and waiting while being able to move the character for no apparent reason whatsoever.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's like playing an Elder Scrolls game without Fast Travel.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean like TES3 their best game?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Morrowind is shit, and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That wouldn't disqualify it from being the best TES

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >shit wouldn't disqualify crap from being the best scat
            OOOOOOHHHH BOOOOOOYYY!

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ok

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't look much like a smear to me, so that about narrows it down!
                >how clogged are you, private?!

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I heard good things about 16's combat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's pretty fun, which is a shocking improvement after 15&13 both sucking turgid dogturds

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's fun. The rest of the game is the problem.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      16's combat is a held back Devil May Cry. It gets boring and monotonous pretty quickly when you realize that it revolves around your cooldown abilities. It's flashy but substance and depth are severely lacking. Better than 15 though I will say that much.

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >le elemental weakness is how you beat FFIV

    ?feature=shared

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this guy posted this shit btw

      16's combat is a held back Devil May Cry. It gets boring and monotonous pretty quickly when you realize that it revolves around your cooldown abilities. It's flashy but substance and depth are severely lacking. Better than 15 though I will say that much.

      and is screeching about monotonous dogshit with no substance

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't have an attention span that can last more than 30 seconds.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they don't like real time either, judging by 16's sales

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do zoomers hate turn based combat?
    Honestly, I grew up with turn based rpgs and even I got sick of them by 2024. I'm not a zoomer. MOST turn based rpgs nowadays just put me to sleep. Including Like A Dragon. It's just... boring after awhile.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought it was boring when I was playing Pokemon as a kid.
      These were always games where you put up with the combat, so you could get back to the adventure.

      Games were harder to come by back then, so I guess we were happier to grind it out, than switch over to one of the other thousands of games we had access to at the touch of a button. That's all it is.

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