Why does every pokemon that joins Smash has to be a new gen shillmon that will be inmediately forgotten as soon as the next gen drops?

Why does every pokemon that joins Smash has to be a new gen shillmon that will be inmediately forgotten as soon as the next gen drops?
Why can't we just get genuinely popular old pokemon like Gengar, Dragonite or Garchomp?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Wanting more Pokemon in Smash
    Stop, just fucking stop. Let them add the shill pick and move on

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop.
      No more Pokemon in Smash. Ever. Cut some of the shillmons from next Smash roster, sure, just don't put more Pokemon in Smash.
      Just. Stop.

      If anything there are too few pokemon in the roster. From a series with so many characters, it needs a lot more.
      If pokemones had the fire emblem treatment we would have gotten someone from Sword and Shield, Garchomp for BDSP, maybe even something from Legends Arceus

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >B-but FE!
        Two wrongs don't make a right. There are way more interesting characters to add, FE has the same issue of adding shill picks over interesting reps.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >anons want no more pokemon in Smash
        >"B-BUT FIRE EMBLEM!"
        First of all, you're a gay.
        Second of all, if your desire to see a character in Smash is solely because you feel the character's IP needs more content in Smash, then you don't actually want the character. Your desire is hollow and false.
        You don't actually want a Sword and Shield character, you don't actually want Garchomp, you don't actually want something from Legends Arceus. You only care about imaginary quotas, and that makes you a rosterfag of the worst kind.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What character do you want?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Certainly not another fucking pokemon.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Another sword dude it is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If we're talking reps then for the love of God give the lesser franchises something. Examples
        >Donkey Kong
        People have been screaming for Dixie since Brawl
        >Zelda
        I don't know who would be the best pick now but when half your reps are Link they deserve to have a bone thrown
        >Kirby
        Marx or Magalor?
        >Starfox
        Slippy would be cool if they did something unique with him (Krystalfags can yiff in hell)
        >Mother
        Porky would be nice, or even Ninten as an echo
        >F-Zero
        Blood Falcon as an easy echo, Black Shadow or Samurai Goroh as a new character
        >Pikmin
        Louie, or just make Alph an echo (why didn't they do this already?). For a wild card add the dog from 4 I guess
        >Animal Crossing
        Tom Nook should've been in before Isabelle
        >Xenoblade
        I'd be surprised if they don't get another rep eventually
        >Misc.
        Saki from Sin & Punishment is my #1 first party want. Long shot would be the Elite Beat Agents / Ouendan Squad. If they go the nostalgia route again Mach Rider or Balloon Fighter could be something they pick.
        My point is, we don't need any more Pokemon or FE characters. If you count Pokemon Trainer as 3 seperate characters it actually outnumbers the FE reps (and ties them if not). But it doesn't matter, you'll get the cat and nothing else.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Donkey Kong
          Add Rambi and nothing else.
          >Zelda
          Way too much options here, it's almost comical.
          >Kirby
          Same as Zelda
          >Starfox
          Heh. Don't care personally, but Slippy can be funny i guess.
          >Mother
          You just said everything.
          >F-Zero
          Same as Mother
          >Pikmin
          Unironically i think Oatchi (and Moss as an alt) are the likely candidates for a true 2nd Pikmin Rep (sry Alph. You should've been an Echo)
          >Animal Crossing
          Tom Nook is obvious, but i want to see what they can do with K.K. Slider (We don't really have a Music-themed Character in Smash yet, so here's a chance.)
          >Xenoblade
          Noah and Mio are basically guaranteed at this stage.
          >Misc.
          They can always upgrade Takamaru from Assist Trophy to full-blown Fighter.
          In the same vein as K.K. and is a weird pick: Just give us the Electroplankton. Would be so out-there as a fighter it kinda makes them work (Also force the dev to put Hanenbow with them 😉 )
          Also Galleom. Too cool of a design to be left-out like that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Donkey Kong
          Dixie should have been added as an echo
          >Zelda
          Criminally underepresented franchise. We need Ganon and Skull Kid
          >Kirby
          Another character would be great
          >Star Fox
          Actually overepresented with 3 characters, but I like them so I would love to see one more
          >Mother
          Another overepresented franchise, 2 is too much. But I like the characters so I would love Porky and Masked Man
          >F Zero
          1 character is more than enough
          >Pikmim
          No character potential, an echo is all it desevees
          >Animal Crossing
          Yes, Tom Noook is a must have
          >Xenoblade
          2 is enough, but I wouldnt oppose to a third one
          >Misc
          I would enjoy a character from a random impopular franchise.
          Elite Beat Agents or Starfy would be great

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >We need Ganon
            Ganon has been playable for 2 decades

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not the same. We need the pig
              >but he is already a final smash and a boss
              And he should be playable, final smash and a boss

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why not? He is a must have.
                >main villain of the first Zelda game
                >main villain of ALTTP (best 2D Zelda)
                >main villain with most appearances
                It's the only must have left to be added (with Tom Nook and Dixie Kong)
                >but Ganondorf is the same person
                That doesnt matter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah it does

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Donkey Kong
          Lanky Kong, I miss that goofy orangutan
          >Zelda
          Replace Sheik with Impa, give Ganondorf a Wind Waker skin and add Koume and Kotake as Ice Climber echo fighters

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >a new gen shillmon
          Incineroar is not a shillmon, stop being retarded

          >Zelda
          I really thought that Ghirahim or Impa would have been added. The former even have a decent enough kit already shown in SS.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Incineroar is not a shillmon, stop being retarded
            True she'll be cut next game

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Indeed, so will everyone else other than Pikachu and Lucario.
              The next game will have a double feature of new Pokemon between Eevee and a Gen 10 starter.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stop.
    No more Pokemon in Smash. Ever. Cut some of the shillmons from next Smash roster, sure, just don't put more Pokemon in Smash.
    Just. Stop.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't forget Gardevoir.

      We just need a game that's exactly like Smash but with only Pokemon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We just need a game that's exactly like Smash but with only Pokemon.
        Good idea!
        Coming to your mobile device for free soon!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You say that, but TPC is extremely aversive to actually depicting Pokemon fighting each other in a way as physical as Smash, and are probably attributing Pokken flopping to that exact factor.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >We just need a game that's exactly like Smash but with only Pokemon.

        Is taking them too long

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Play Pokken, it does what you want and is the better fighting game anyways.

        they ruined pokken with that unfun 3d arena mode

        The vast majority of the game's combat takes place in and is designed around the 2d phase anyways. Removing the 3d phase would just make the game less deep and give it less a neutral emphasis, since the PSP mechanic and phase shifting means that you're given frequent returns to neutral, and you have an incentive to change up your combo composition and make risk-vs reward choices so your combos end right on the shift for optimal damage, OR you use combos that delay the shift to keep the enemy in pressure longer as a sort of reset or to keep them in pressure; or to use combos that cause shifts earlier if you wanna break out of pressure or to get the meter/regen causing a shift brings.

        pokken was fucking dogshit made for fighting game spergs and smash is ruined by incelneroar

        The game has simple inputs and does a bunch of other things to make itself more approachable, if that's too much for you then that's a (you) problem

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it really isn't the 3D arena mode is really unfun

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why does a crossover game that helps promote other games promote new games
    it's a mystery

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why did we get a character from Fire Emblem in the DLC but not something from Sword and Shield?
      Zacian would have been amazing, it even has an official art from the tcg in the Smash winning screen

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because it's a lot easier to add another FE sword user. Also there's that rumour that Byleth was a gutted Mon Hun character.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True, lazy gays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >long and large quadruped in smash
        >held item complications as its mouth is already holding the sword
        genuinely the worst possible pick

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smash isn't a game anymore, it's an advertisement and vehicle for selling DLC.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nope it is a game i can play it as an interactive media your seething dosn't change that

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why can't we just keep getting attention to the same pokémon over and over and over and over and over again instead of giving something new a chance to shine?
    Nobody stands Gengar anymore, anon, except for the people with complete normie taste like... well... I guess (You)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with Gengar?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fat people like it

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have a good pick

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because GF and TPC exclusively view Smash as a vehicle to shill their newest products.
    You need to remember that this is the only reason Pokemon debuted in Smash in the first place, Pikachu and Jigglypuff were there to draw in those who weren't already captivated by the franchise by providing an outlet that wasn't the core games, anime, TCG or general merch.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Get Pokken
    >Still complain that you didn't get enough

    This cup has no bottom, it seems.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they ruined pokken with that unfun 3d arena mode

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pokken was fucking dogshit made for fighting game spergs and smash is ruined by incelneroar

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck characters. What would be a cool new Pokemon stage? So far we have 3 Kanto stages (Saffron City, PS1, Pokefloats), 1 Sinnoh stage (Spear Pillar), 1 Unova stage (Unova League), and 2 Kalos stages (Lumiose and Kalos League), also one unknown (PS2).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Burned Tower
      Mt. Pyre
      Altar of the Sunne/Moone
      Rose Stadium
      Area Zero

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sky Pillar with Rayquaza as a stage hazard.
      Flying type pokemon can be seen in the background too.
      This should also the stage for the new Rayquaza boss fight in story mode

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Sky Pillar with Rayquaza as a stage hazard.
        This is my vote, but Groudon and Kyogre should be fighting below, causing the sea to rise or dry up periodically, revealing or hiding more map.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah fuck stages more characters

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sky Pillar would be the logical pick for a Hoenn stage, but... What if SOMEONE ELSE was the stage itself?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    team rocket trainer that has a rattata, arbok and weezing would be neat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you remind me of some retard on a forum i saw once who wanted Gloom and Poliwag playable

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pika
    Mascot
    >Puff
    Joke+easy to make back then due to Kirby reskin
    >Mewtwo
    Earned shilling
    >Pichu
    Gen2 rep but another joke
    >Pokemon Trainer
    KANTOOOOOO Pandering
    >Lucario
    The retarded shilldog plastered everywhere even replacing Mewtwo, even built in with a mechanic to reward shitters for playing bad
    >Zard itself
    Not even hiding it
    >Gren
    Was never supposed to be a shillmon but due to Sakurai's pick cuz it looked cool, then the anime pushing it super hard, & finally realing back+retconning Trash Gren it really shouldn't have gotten in
    >Incineroar
    They absolutely knew what they were doing, absolutely thrashing VGC & Sakurai dropped the owl for it BUT it is actually pretty original as a fighter with the wrestling kit

    That being said that all fuck the shit eating rabbit didn't make it in, they realized all the gen8 starters were THAT awful.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely, it's because the new Smash Pokemon is picked a while before its corresponding game comes out. Which means that there'd be a small pool of starters and shillmons to choose from.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's weird how little confidence they have in non-starter reps. getting into smash is a guaranteed popularity boost, they could pretty much be using it to create extremely profitable shillmons with zero effort

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remove everyone but Pokemon Trainer, Pikachu and maybe Mewtwo, the other Pokemon selections have been dog shit.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sakurai likes taking free reign and if he can imagine a moveset and a playstyle, that's more important than Dex seniority.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even then, he's only allowed to pick from what GF/TPC offer him, which as far as track record shows after Lucario's ascended shilling it's ALWAYS whatever the most recent trio of starters is.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can I get a source or are you speaking your personal beliefs?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    BOTW was guaranteed to get a character in smash if it had a side character or villain like Midna, Girahim or Skull Kid. But it was the first 3D Zelda to not have any character like that, the champions were the closest to that, but they weren't that relevant.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i want Heavy Lobster

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >rosterfags are even more cancerous here compared to Ganker

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Smash Bros after Melee is for gays with Down's

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nah thats you gay CUNT go stick you head in a fucking blender

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hello Ganker, Sakurai says he want a bethesda character, what should I give him?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roggi Knot-Beard

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play Pokkén instead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no the 3D arena mode is really unfun

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Pika
    >PT
    >Mewtwo
    >Grovyle
    >Lucario
    >Gren
    >Guzma & Golisopod
    >Scream Tail (Puff echo without og Puff)
    How's this anons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >guzma tags in and throws hands himself
      I can get behind that

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