Why does he hate Valve so much?
Why does he hate Valve so much?
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Because Valve makes him look stupid and incompetent by comparison.
it's a fucking obvious way to get into all the game journalist articles and generate a bunch of twittertard buzz you morons
Sure thing, Tim.
Oh no. Another article where this retard runs his mouth. Now I'm definitely going to be spending more money than I was 30 minutes ago.
You weren't going to send Sweiner your money in the first place. These articles still keep people shitposting about EGS and increase the chances of normies being reminded about EGS.
EGS will crash and burn regardless but if you think the attention isn't helping EGS, you're retarded.
>merely pretending
>Timmy Epig vs Timmy Apple trial
>Epig Timmy spilling spaghetti everywhere while being interrogated
Nah, Timmy Epig does that all by himself.
Because he knows he'll never be able to do as litte work as Valve while raking in the cash and it makes him rage.
he makes more off fortnite than steam purchases in a year
Steam is an excellent platform though with a ton of features, constantly being worked on.
How many months did it take EGS to get a shopping cart?
>months
years, it took years to add a feature that has existed in online stores since the 1990's
He declared PC gaming a dead husk not worth bothering with, and is eternally fuming that Valve proved him wrong, and now he thinks he's entitled to the PC market, but doesn't actually understand why Valve is as successful as it was.
I like Tim. He's a living reminder that sometimes infinite money from Shartnite and CCP is not enough to make things work.
this fucking dog is the only reason why I enter these threads
Carmack washed and disgraced by his pointless rocket startups and VR shit.
Romero? Gas station.
Chris Roberts. Grifter.
Ken Silverman? People don't even know who he is.
Tim reigns supreme as a successful OG.
And he got rich off game technology. Not from offering web downloads.
Chirs Roberts is the most successful conman in History.
Have some respect.
>Romero? Gas station.
Do you even look up the shit you spout? Romero doesn't work at a gas station.
He's a weirdo who has a gas station memorabilia collection.
>Romero? Gas station.
This goes to prove that you're just a mouth breather that memespouts whatever you see on Ganker as complete truth. Go outside, get a job.
>Go outside, get a job
nta but that's rich coming from a tripfag
> Carmack washed and disgraced
More like he disgraced Meta and told them they're fucking idiots and he'll move to a company that isn't fucking stupid?
timberly had to sell half of his fucking company to the chinese
The only reason why Steam is still hanging on tooth and nail is because it's a platform that has existed for nearly 20 years compared to Epic merely being around for 4.
Nobody cares about your dogshit one platform autismal cause just like one of the many dogshit causes you think the industry needs, the average gay just have their 500 games on Steam for them to move on to Epic.
calm down Chang
achtually the reason I like steam over epic is that valve has made a number of moves to invest in the future of games and shift them (usually) in a more positive direction.
the steam controller was failure but brought gyro aiming and controller back paddles to light and with the push of proton and steam os valve are making a good venture at wrestling pc games exclusivity from microsoft and making it viable on a free open os.
what has epic done other tahn buy timed exclusivity to meaningfully compete with valve ?
>the steam controller was failure
No it wasn't, it's the most successful PC gamepad ever.
*on steam.
literally no one outside of pc users heard or saw it anon.
I like it as a controller but it wasn't successful and thats why valve liquidated them at $5 each years ago.
>*on steam.
Which is essentially synonymous with PC gaming.
>literally no one outside of pc users heard or saw it anon.
That makes sense considering it's made for PC users.
>I like it as a controller but it wasn't successful and thats why valve liquidated them at $5 each years ago.
No, they liquidated them because of patent trolling by SCUF. By what standard is selling one and a half million controllers not a success?
if it was successful they'd still be making and selling them big brain.
checkmate and got frickin owned kid.
>if it was successful they'd still be making and selling them big brain.
"No, they liquidated them because of patent trolling by SCUF."
Are you retarded? Try reading the post you're replying to next time.
No, the reason why they liquidated the stock was the patent lawsuit. Which Valve ultimately won, which is why they were able to sell the Steam Deck which has a more advanced version of the Steam Controllers layout.
Microsoft paid a pile of money to the troll because of this picture, but it was really to make the patent seem more legitimate in their upcoming lawsuit against Valve.
Basically Steam Controller was such a success, that Microsoft sent a Patent Troll after them.
>there's more people using fightsticks and rockband instruments than racing wheels
weird
Not terribly surprised about Rockband instruments (assuming that includes GH shit), due to the sudden renaissance in Guitar/Clone Hero interest that began shortly before COVID hysteria.
Racing wheels and flight sticks are overpriced as fuck so its not a surprise.
Fight sticks are cheap.
are racing wheels really that much better than a controller?
Mario Kart Wii and phone games proved you can play racing games just fine with gyro controls alone instead of using a wheel or buttons.
If it's not an arcadey baby game like mario kart, yes
depends on what you want to play
forza horizon and nfs for example are terrible with a wheel
no, because
dota, csgo and even tf2 gives valves permanent sustain they havent made a real game since they implemented pseudo markets into their multiplayer games
if dota and csgo ever died we’d see half life 3 with groundbreaking feature’s never seen before in games because theyd have to try again
They are no longer capable of this.
I think they proved well enough that they've still got it with HL Alyx
I would start buying games from Epic if they had even a fraction of the features Steam does. The lack of reviews alone means I will never bother with it.
don't care, come back when any of their games natively run on linux
Plenty of the games on Epic Games Store run natively on Linux.
You just have to download them from Steam, GOG, or itch.io instead :^)
What's wrong with Steamworks API?
He can't make anything better
it isn't epic online services
It's too convenient for developers
Can't use it without Steam. Having online features locked behind a store is retarded but it's also not a problem since games don't exist if they're not on steam
Too convenient for developers. Too easy for pirates to crack.
Encourages laziness and soft-DRM practices amongst devs by relying on Steam primarily for their online multiplayer. It's poisoned the well so deeply that most of the time, if you ask if there's LAN or Direct IP, people will accuse you of being a pirate. That being said, it's still ridiculous to lay the problem at Valve's feet, especially when it's ultimately up to the devs to do something as basic as Direct IP multiplayer, even if Steam is facilitating their laziness. The only ground he'd have to stand on is whether it'd be super duper easy for Valve to make it so, with a toggle, Steamworks could facilitate insecure/unauthenticated connections from installs not from their client (or any, if DRM-free), but then the question would be why HIS service hasn't done the same.
It isn't controlled by Epic/Tim Sweeney. You know that's the only reason why he seethes
It's quite literally a drm
While the Epig store isn't? It's not only DRM but chinese spyware as well, so what's your point?
Steam api killed LAN gaming
No, better online connections killed LAN gaming.
You offer a service for free and its better than all the alternatives. Which gives everyone else a disadvantage because they would have to come up with something better and that takes effort.
>Free
That'll be 30% plus tip
Free for the customer, Timmy.
Which is at the end of the day the person who you are trying to sell your platform to.
Devs aren't the ones giving you money.
>Devs aren't the ones giving you money
Oh wait, customers aren't either.
Devs are the customers of Valve, not us. They pay for all of the features, not us.
????
Who provides the revenue from which Valve takes their eeeeevil 30% cut? You are far less intelligent than you think you are.
I don't have to pay anything to start using steamworks
>What's wrong with Steamworks API?
They don't send your data to Chinese servers
Nothing, really. It's a networking library for connecting Steam users to each other. It's like bitching that you can only buy stuff from Walmart inside of a Walmart or using its store page. Epic has their own and you can implement it if you put your games on the Ebin Store. You can even do it for both EGS and Steam at the same time so you can sell games on both stores, though of course there isn't any sort of crossplay.
Having your own networking library is a lot of work unless you rely entirely on P2P stuff which isn't very reasonable for anything other than LAN or 1v1 games and even that can have a myriad of problems, anything more substantial is generally more for AAA devs and publishers who can afford to make and maintain their own.
His seething is very amusing
but hes making billions a year off one game while you suck gabes rotting smegma encrusted cock
And and sank so much of it on bribing players to stay in his "ecosystem" and failing miserably.
NGL though, I like Tim because as retarded as I am and the amount of times I lost money on stupid shit, I could never beat Tim at his own game. He reminds me, no matter how retarded I am, it could always be worse, I could be TIm
Seething EGS peasant.
Valve has created problems like letting me map the broken L3 of my controller to a double press of a different button to keep using my 70$ gadget instead of throwing it away or opening it up to fix it.
Sucess breeds jealousy
The problem is they created a good product and now people actually expect good products and not chinese slop
He's right, Steamworks is a huge problem for the industry, because it's actually good. We can't have that in the industry because that promotes competition instead of stagnation.
This, maybe instead of crying over how good Steam is all day, how about you actually try and rise to the challenge it presents you?
You won't diminish all the good will Gabe has raised, not only is Steam the easiest and most accessible way to purchase and catalouge your video games, it's also the most consumer friendly. It's one of the few businesses where I feel like Gabe wouldn't flay me in real life and sell my skin for profits, he feels human.
But no, just bitch about it to the press, I'm sure that'll make the Epic Game store better, eventually.
>dota 2 invented battlepasses
>tf2 made cosmetics costing money normal
>half life was the start of movie games
>counter strike was the death of arena shooters
i'm thinking they're antibased
>posts a bug
>has shitty takes
You can't make this shit up.
>bugman gay
>is also retarded
Like pottery
They were the first, they were the best, they still are the best and they're years ahead of the competition. Valve didn't create a problem, Epic did.
Tim looks like my uncle who gets no bitches and is probably a virgin. I bet Timmys wife is from overseas, one of those ugly brown asian girls who barely speaks any English
>one of those ugly brown asian girls who barely speaks any English
But those are the best ones...
tim wishes he would've done it first
Maybe he shouldn't have fucked off to consoles in the mid 00s while saying PC gaming is dead.
Never forget, never forgive. And fuck Cliffy too, he also spouted this horseshit.
He's obsessed with Gabe, understandably.
Tim could have been a good figure in the industry, but he took chink money and he is now a commie puppet.
And he knows this.
How is this autismo capable of spouting so much seething bullshit? Like what the fuck has Gaben even said about Epic? Did the fatty shit on Timmy'a breakfast or something?
The worst Gaben has said publicly these oast few years is the fact that he unironically plays FFXIV and that he thinks NFTs/metaverse are a scam.
>and that he thinks NFTs/metaverse are a scam.
Both of these are true though
I don't think Gabe had ever acknowledged a single thing epic has said or done. Which makes Tim seethe even harder.
It’s unironically this, which is hilarious. If Tim spent even half the effort he spends shitting Valve towards improving EGS, Gabe might be forced to acknowledge him as a potential competitor but the fact the he doesn’t is undeniable proof he’s failure at this venture.
>he thinks NFTs/metaverse are a scam
Now you know why TImmy hates Gabe. The metaverse is his entire personality.
Even when drawn in a shillpiece the dude looks like he has some kind of syndrome.
>The worst Gaben has said publicly these oast few years is the fact that he unironically plays FFXIV and that he thinks NFTs/metaverse are a scam.
>he thinks NFTs/metaverse are a scam.
He's 100% correct though?
How does Gaben cope that csgo skins are nfts?
Well NFTs have completely shat the bed meanwhile the Steam market is just printing money.
>How does Gaben cope that csgo skins are nfts?
How retarded do you unironically have to be to not understand the difference between the two?
What else could it be other than he's mad that steam is more successful? the Epic Games store / launcher is shit, and no amount of free games will change that. They made their platform to suit devs, not players and they are surprised nobody wants to use it. No discussion boards, no user reviews. It's something that benefits the developer. I remember playing a free game from Epic. Had an issue where the game wouldn't start. Where did I find the answer to the problem? On the steam discussion board for the game. Epic fucked up and won't admit it.
Basically AMD of software. Fuckers were playing "the good guys" card for years because they had no competitive products against Intel and Nvidia. You couldn't visit Ganker without some freetard sucking off AMD in every hardware thread.
Now that they're actually competitive and preferred over Intel they have raised prices and start pushing for hardware DRM like Pluton, like all the greedy garden gnomes before them.
Tim is simply playing the same role, to make goyims sympathize with his attempt to overtake Valve.
Tim never really tried to be "the good guy" epic store doesn't even have user reviews or community forums to discuss the game and give feedback yet, epic store is just garbage.
He's a chinese agent
All he's saying is that steamworks doesn't accommodate for cross platform play. Which is pretty reasonable criticism.
Thats fine and all. But he also says this...
>That will happen for more and more categories of games as Epic Games Store grows, to the point where when developers start foregoing Steam because they just take too much money, Sweeney said.
>“Valve will have to make some hard choices. When mobile platforms are opened up to the same form of competition – and that day is coming – we’ll compete there too. Ultimately their day of reckoning will come as well, where stores have to compete on their merits and margin to win business from developers,” he said.
A day of reckoning, he says. What the hell lmao.
Like what the actual FUCK is his grudge against Valve? A year ago he praised the Steam Deck even. I legitimately don't get it.
>where stores have to compete on their merits and margin to win business from developers
You mean like what Steam is doing?
I like how he's wearing suits now. Somebody must have pointed out that his sense of fashion is abysmal, but since it's Timmy, he picked the most gnarly-ass looking two-piece he could find. So instead of a creepy wanker he looks like a divorced vacuum cleaner salesman now.
>Tim's age: 52
>Gabe's age: 60
The irony is that Tim's decade long attempt to undermine and beat Valve will be outdone by Valve's investors and management the moment the company goes public after Gabe's death.
>Valve's investors
Privately owned, dumbass.
List all the owners dumbfuck
Gabe will just pick a successor. Valve has been privately owned since it was founded and it has worked for them. There is no reason why that should change.
The moment he dies his part of the share will be sold by the family. Even if he nominates a legal successor to run the business there's no fucking way in hell his family won't sue the living shit out of them in order to not miss on the billion+ dollars Gabe has at his disposal.
>share
I'm done talking to you.
>t. retard who doesn't understand how large privately owned corporations actually function and how they can offer private stock to its employers etc.
Gabe only owns 50% of the company.
He's not wrong in that when Gabe retires in whatever way, no one knows who will own and manage Valve. It could be that it's already ran by hired execs and will continue to belong to the family or it may be sold to a bunch of retards and ran into the ground.
actual fucking brainlet
>Gabe's will
>and to my family in regards to Valve, YOU GET NOTHING
that easy
Can't revoke their stakes in a will
What stakes motherfucker? Show who owns what of Valve.
in what way is Gaben required to give his family members ownership of steam? that's not how it works goober
because Valve isn't pandering to leftycel losers
>webm
nice moron behavior
That's not the full thing, the chud was antagonizing and hitting them for a couple minutes, he wanted a fight. They were shockingly patient and didn't fight back even when he slapped them a couple times. Only after he kept it up did they eventually kick the shit out of him and honestly even that wasn't that bad other than the kick to the jaw, they pretty much stopped once he was down instead of beating him to death. I only comment because I was surprised at how non-violent they were for Hispanics.
Why is he always seething at someone? he did it with Carmack back in the 90s and now Gabe. You won already, you're rich off of Fortnite and your UE tech are used by Hollywood and US military, settle down.
Tim keeps trying to appeal to publishers, and to a lesser extent, developers, while never once trying to appeal to the customer. He then wonders why customers aren't interested.
That's Tim? Goddamn, he ages like 50 years..
Apple lawsuit and constant, impotent seething will do that to you.
I don't understand why he's not happy with the current situation. He's got Fortnite that's printing him "fuck you" money and gets CCP handouts as well. Yet he chooses to flush it down the drain for retarded ambitions, such as taking over an entire market.
>He's got Fortnite that's printing him "fuck you" money
For now. Timmy outright admitted Fortnite is declining.
>“The funny thing that’s happened post-pandemic is that Fortnite monthly active users have held up, but playtime, hours played, and spending has gone down,”
Will it ever die? Nah. Will it eventually stop printing billions of dollars a year to waste in money pits like EGS? Possibly.
>post-pandemic
Everything gaming related went down in popularity after the pandemic.
For Fortnite, it was kids going back to school for face to face class.
whatever happened to Save The World mode?
The funny thing is that if he just stops complaining and literally copy/pastes everything Steam does, then he might be competitive. Steam isn't inventing the wheel. Steam itself just copy/pasted the Xbox/Sony console store when it came to streamlining the experience..
>Steam itself just copy/pasted the Xbox/Sony console store when it came to streamlining the experience..
Steam came before.
How many years has Timmy had Valve live rent free in his head now? 5, 6?
Why not shave your head at that point?
do you think timmy seethed when half-life sold 10 times as many copies as unreal did back in 1998?
I think he got over it once he pulled the plug on almost all the classic Unreal games.
he is right, valve is killing mods
Put yourself in his shoes. The failure platform, completely outdated and useless... it turned out extremely profitable for a company: Valve. So, you now want a piece of that after years of speaking ill of it. But since you're mentally retarded, you don't really understand how they made (or keep making) their money. So you proceed to make retarded decisions hoping that you will somehow usurp their position. Years go by, literally years, and nothing changes. Not only nothing changes, you do not advance anything and, even worse, the other company does absolutely nothing... yet they still rule supreme. Your only option is to keep going full retard and crying with others hoping for a supreme power to help you against them.
'cause he wants to be the one that makes all the money, obviously.
he wants egs to be popular so he makes more money
He's right overall about the diagnosed issues but has no credible solution to offer.
Making him doubly worthless.
Man why does Tim keep acting like such an insufferable tard?
I know billionaire tech CEOs tend to be like that but god damn Gayben is just chilling like the lolbert that he is.
Tim has to endure the stress of investors and his Chinese connections breathing down his neck, and likely feels pressured to go out his way to chase the perpetual growth meme. Gabe can just be Valve's enlightened despot for life and focus on whatever he is genuinely interested in.
I think the funniest part of all this is how often Tim just openly seethes at Gabe and talks all this shit while Gabe has like never even acknowledged any of it one time
You wanna know the funny part? They are bros, outside of business they hang out.
what's with the bias marketing on the main banner? I don't load up steam and see valve games being pushed on me as the headline, it's usually a publisher sale and special offers from other companies.
tim wants to talk about valve being unfair to developers? why am I not seeing small indie games when I first load up? why doesn't his launcher run algorithm to advertise games I might like? this is all simple shit that valve figured out over a decade ago.
Indie games don't make money and Epic is a sinking ship financially
Wow it's almost like Paddy's Dollars shouldn't have been taken as a positive business idea.
>why doesn't his launcher run algorithm to advertise games I might like?
They don't want to.
Reminder that they're opening up the floodgates for EGS but they explicitly said that they'll barely focus on discoveranility and algorithms like Steam. They'll just pay youtubers and streamers lmao. That's their solution.
>hey, throwing our fortnite money at our problem hasn't really worked so far, any other ideas?
>uh...throw more fortnite money?
>why doesn't his launcher run algorithm to advertise games I might like?
This is by design.
It already runs a full suite of spyware on the users computer, why not look at their library too?
>but as a matter of principle
wtf? and did ms allison explain how epic supports game discovery on twitch and youtube? do they mean moral support or actually doing something?
It means
>we just plan on throwing free games at people until we have a monopoly so why the fuck should we bother putting any effort in the store
They have a referral program where if you use a streamer's code then the content creator gets 5%. That comes out of the developer's cut though so that 12% suddenly becomes 17%.
That's been a fhing for years now and has barely worked. How do they expect for that to change anything once the actual floodgates open?
Does epic not track playtime? Or are they just pretending they don't know what's in your library?
They're trying to make Steam's game recommender sound insidious while also allowing them to selectively advertise certain games instead, perhaps to get ad money from certain developers in the future
Captcha: MAS4KA
bro first parties are like 90% of their income, of course they will shill their own games since that's all the store has
SEX WITH LIZARD MAN
All this shit just because he doesn't want to give Steam a cut from his Fortnite bucks.
He literally looks like that CEO from Robocop now, except less menacing.
What happened?
Ah yes, Dick Jones.
Because Valve is a private company, of course owned bitches like Timmy will seethe about it.
You mongoloid Epic games is private too. A company doesn't have to be public to have shares.
Epic is Tencents bitch. Meanwhile Steam has its own different client in China separate from global Steam.
Well it must be true because you memed it in the internet. Did you not have any lectures on economics in high school? Because you can't apparently understand how even a basic corporation works.
Wait wot? So the Chinese just came to him and asked him to sell half of his company and this retard actually agreed?
...
spiteful mutant
wonderful times we live in where blatant racism like this is just totally fine
blatant racism has always been and always will be fine because humans inherently need tribalism, it's just the target that changes
nah, humans can rise above their base urges
what's frustrating is that I know humans can be better, there are some of us who can do it all the time, no sweat. but they KEEP FUCKING LETTING ME DOWN EVERY SINGLE TIME. I hate it, watching everybody from twitter twats to Ganker gays just accepting and perpetuating all this bullshit because 'its okay when my side does it' or 'its fine when it's only against this one demographic'
fucking powdersoulled pansies have no fucking principles I hate it so much
R = P + P, chud.
Indeed.
For context, this is from HLA's Final Hours. With the wording, I assume it's something Geoff put up to the guy as opposed to him offering it himself.
imagine kicking him in the face and his weird alien bug-eyes pop out of their sockets
his opinions reflect his visage
His problem being?
>extremely white and extremely male
The fact that nobody called out his obvious bullshit irritates me.
I actually watched that video the day it was uploaded. There were a number of comments critiquing how he spent most of the time crying that Valve didn't acknowledge BLM instead of the relevant stuff like how they use employee stack rankings. Those comments were deleted.
A lot of comments that I remember reading were deleted. Fucking youtube and their garden gnome shit, and then you have people on the channel managing the comments too.
So he deletes comments that tears his lying shitty ass apart then. What a fucking surprise from this gay.
Why are they like this, Gankerros?
racist, sexist, homophobic, transphobic, etc. are all labels used to try to discredit and strongarm people/companies to do their bidding
similar to the way "communist" was tossed around during the red scare in the 50s
>oh no, this business is doing fucking amazing, lets insert our brain damage into it
All this shit has been proven time and time again to never work. These jobless useless gays need to remove themselves for good.
SBV really should be used to put these people in their place from here on out whenever they voice their idiotic ideas or complaints. Their brand of bullshit was directly responsible for the second-biggest banking failure (SBV's president didn't have a securities officer for almost a year up till last week because she was holding out for a replacement who was especially LE DIVERSE).
bioleninism
??
>Too White
>No support for BLM or other social movements
And then he is going to complain about EA and Blizzard not standing for "X" community by turning their flags gay and
not really supporting the cause.
Corporations, be it for games, distribution, foods or whatever. Should not, EVER, dabble in Idpol or other mainstream shit.
Wendy doing "sick burns" got old, fast. It's almost like they want corporations to be people but corporations aren't, but they
pretend to.
holy shit I hope they know better than this, companies should NEVER be perceived as people or singular entities; the most they could ever be likened to are animals without sapience, simply chewing and eating and performing tricks to survive and grow larger
You would be suprised how many think that MS or EA should stand in
support to "X". What is even more funny is that some of it comes from
anti-goverment, anti-corpo people.
> Extremely white
> Extremely male
>Says the white libtard
>It's okay when I'M racist and sexist, chud!
Zzzzzzz....
Physiognomy never lies
Why did this gay thought it was a good idea to shut down the master servers of Unreal Tournament, the franchise that literally carried Epic and Unreal Engine to where it is now, and re-releasing the shittiest game in the franchise?
Now delete the tread, this issue has been rehashed so many times, dude.
He played tf2/cs/dota and got mad, because when it comes to supporting games, valve is actually dogshit
He's just seething.
LET KINGDOM HEARTS FREE, TIM
it's already free, friend
based timmy paid for our copies
He never forgave half life for blowing his unreal's ass out.
Valve has a lot more control and offers more base features than anybody else. Stuff like the Marketplace is too risky for anybody other than valve to create and valve is only ok since they did it a long time ago.
EPIC really wanted it for fornite.
You know at this point, after a few years, I wouldn't have minded the EGS these days if it weren't for the fact that Sweeney rattles off like a seething retard every chance he can get.
No one even fucking knows what beef this guy has with Vakve anymore. And Valve doesn't really care. Gaben is just jerking off on his 'eck and posting it on Ganker.
Gayben fucked his wife.
"Valve has created a real problem in the industry", says Tim Sweeney, who has ruined an entire generation of kids with Fortnite
>live in the timeline where Fortnite exists
it's not fair
Has there ever been a fucker as transparent as ol' "gimme a slice of that pie" Timmy? Who does he think he's fooling?
>Who does he think he's fooling?
He's trying to aim for tech-ignorant boomers with power/influence who might see him as a scrappy mistreated underdog, due to their technical knowledge only going so far as having their daughter-in-law and grand son on call regularly to "fix" their phone because they accidentally went into homescreen editing mode while trying to open their Fox News/CNN app again.
Watching that idea backfire during the apple lawsuit when he got a Tech Mom judge who didn't hesitate to slap him down on his shit.
Oh yes monopoly good.
NOOOOOOOOO, PLEASE SIRS BUY FROM MY STORE SO IIIIII CAN HAVE THE MONOPOLY INSTEAAADDDDD PLEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEE
*BUYS YOU ANOTHE FREE GAME*
competitors failing != monopoly
Tim would fucking love a monopoly, namely one that he controls. If you think he is trying to compete with Valve out of moral principles over free market practices I've got a bridge to sell you. Tim would love nothing more than to obliterate steam and make EGS an actual monopoly on PC games.
You already have other options. GOG is better than EGS and they at least don't pay for exclusivity as far as I know.
The whole thing and who he is targeting to is people ignorant or too young to understand.
I feel like even people just growing up now instantly see through tim and laugh at him, he's just too transparent.
I don't know who he actually thinks he has fooled.
People use him for Fortnite and freebies but don't really hold any loyalty or attachment to him when he's not of use.
Maybe Gabe fucked his wife? I mean, how the fuck is Steam a problem but not MS buying Zenimax and Activision? MS owning those 2 publishers is a way bigger threat to the industry than anything Steam has ever done. Steam is just a fucking digital store-front for god's sake.
WHY DOES TIM KEEP SEETHING ABOUT STEAM BUT LITERALLY NONE OF THE CONSOLES???
HELLO? THEYRE EVEN MORE FUCKING LOCKDOWN AND VALVE EVEN TELLS PEOPLE TO DO WHAT THE FUCK THEY WANT WITH THEIR STEAM DECK
NOTICE HOW HE NEVER FUCKING TRIES TO ATTACK SONY, MICROSOFT, OR NINTENDO
because pc is the only market he has a chance of penetrating you dummy
>WHY DOES TIM KEEP SEETHING ABOUT STEAM BUT LITERALLY NONE OF THE CONSOLES???
I have no idea...
He's been very deep in Sony's pockets for a while now so he'll never attack THEM, and with the incredibly stupid and biased poorly-aged shit he's said to hype up Sony consoles, I think even he has enough brainpower to know that he probably doesn't want to open up that can of worms on himself by attacking Microsoft or Nintendo.
>why does Timmy never bite the hands (platforms) that made him rich and keeps his company afloat???
Gee anon, that's a tough one.
Because he wants Fortnite on consoles as that's the primary consumerbase.
He's like 20iq points above anyone working at Valve, and he thinks that means he should be richer and more successful.
valve is a problem for the industry. mainly because it's not a problem for consumers, unlike other store fronts.
I wish Valve made games. TF2 is still relevant somehow and it gets zero fucking support.
The Internet killed LAN parties, anyway. Seriously: why turn your PC off, drag it out to the car, haul the whole damn thing off to some other guy's house, when you can just play online? Ha ha, Internets!
only the most autistic fightan gaems fags still screech how LAN is the way it's meant to be played because "muh latency" or whatever. Their entire genre is autistic dogshit anyway, maybe latency wouldn't matter if the game didn't have "HA HA I'M INVINCIBLE IN THESE ATTACK FRAMESES" (a quirk that was rooted entirely in developer incompetence--the i-frame was never intended to exist, it was a symptom of shit programming.)
Gaming laptops would work pretty well here if the games were fucking optimized..
Anyone with honesty and integrity hates known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.
Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
Oh there you are
appreciate it
Because Gabe never abandoned PC like Sweeney did.
>No artifact copy pasta
Bad thread
Valve is litterally succefully implementing the "own nothing and be happy" scheme.
And their fanboys just eat shit like this up and then ask for more.
Pretty sure it's not Steam's fault, but Ubisoft's.
Steam's end-user TOS and Valve's contracts with developers allow such things to happen.
Duh, I wasn't saying they are any better. But the entire gaming community doesn't fellate them at any given chance.
>But the entire gaming community doesn't fellate them
Not the entire "community", no. But their own groups are extremely focal will vehemently defend eating their shit 24/7
And yes Valve allows you to pull your product from their store front
>Steam's end-user TOS and Valve's contracts with developers allow such things to happen.
Publisher can stop selling physical copies as well and we constantly have multiplayer games shutting down.
If anything, it's a clear sign to not buy games from that studio. I mean, seriously.
>playing Ubishit
Xbox and playstation already have this
>successfully implementing
moron this is the future of all digital games since the beginning.
Looks like that's Ubisoft's doing to be. Also all GFWL games that never got patches also can no longer be played.
Ubi And steam admitted that was an error, and it only meant the online portion. The game is still up for sale and doesn't have that banner. Nice try though Tim.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/260210/Assassins_Creed_Liberation_HD/
you will NEVER be a woman
Valve is eternally devoted to improving PC gaming, Epic is eternally devoted to make it indistinguishable from predatory console garbage.
Please elaborate. How has Steam improved PC gaming by locking the whole thing behind online Drm? How has Epic made it worse by making the publishing fees cheaper than on Steam?
Because Steam's API completely blows away the competition insofar as develevoper and community collaboration in terms of integrating it into third party websites and apps as well as workshops and other such things, while being fairly open and easy to work with, and not being controlled by a megacorp that wants to fuck me.
Valve is literally the reason behind all the cancerous predatory monetization tactics that exist you retard
Valve is literally the reason why PC games became as expensive as console games by raising their cuts to the same level despite Valve not needing to invest anywhere near the same amount into their platform as console manufacturers need to
Valve is literally the reason why all PC games have DRM and why physical PC gaming is no longer a thing despite it still existing on consoles
also if it was up to Valve modding was already monetized where they would be taxing 80% of it
Valve is the biggest fucking reason why PC industry is stagnating
how the fuck can you valvecultists be on the exact polar opposite of reality
>Valve is literally the reason why PC games became as expensive as console games
I haven't played $60 for a game in years, what are you talking about?
>why all PC games have DRM
They don't and you're not even 12 years old
why can I smell an artifactfag post from a mile away just by looking at the shape of the post without even reading it
>Valve is literally the reason behind all the cancerous predatory monetization tactics that exist you retard
Loot boxes were not invented by Valve and neither were microtransactions. Just because it was your first exposure to them doesn't mean they were first.
>Valve is literally the reason why PC games became as expensive as console games by raising their cuts to the same level despite Valve not needing to invest anywhere near the same amount into their platform as console manufacturers need to
PC games are free.
>Valve is literally the reason why all PC games have DRM and why physical PC gaming is no longer a thing despite it still existing on consoles
Only some really recent games have denuvo which is not an invention of Valve and neither is "games as a service".
Try attacking Valve for things they're actually guilty of, even if people don't care about artifact at least you won't be a liar.
>Valve is literally the reason why PC games became as expensive as console games by raising their cuts to the same level despite Valve not needing to invest anywhere near the same amount into their platform as console manufacturers need to
Retailers took like 55% of video game sales before Valve standardized 30%.
>Valve is literally the reason why all PC games have DRM and why physical PC gaming is no longer a thing despite it still existing on consoles
DRM was much more prevalent and invasive before Steam became ubiquitous.
You are a retarded zoomer.
Seriously, I read that shit and wonder if anyone remembers back when the 30% cut was first a thing, people were wondering how Valve expected to stay in business with a cut as anemic as 30%. Now it's seen as borderline draconian.
>Valve is literally the reason why PC games became as expensive as console games by raising their cuts to the same level despite Valve not needing to invest anywhere near the same amount into their platform as console manufacturers need to
Valve is responsible, yes. But more because they gave control back to the publishers so prices have stagnated or risen while before this they fell.
Publishers then sell key licenses cheaper on alternative outlets.
>But more because they gave control back to the publishers
Publishers have always been the ones in control though, what are you talking about? Valve isn't in a position where they can force them to lower their prices.
>deranged, obsessed anon accusing other people of being cultists
do you WANT negative attention? that's the only way I can explain your behavior
>Why does he hate Valve so much?
because current Valve is an unproductive leech middle man company taxing 1/3 of PC gaming revenue while barely producing jackshit in return. Instead the money is going into Gaben's pockets so he can spend it on shit like his fucking 100million$+ luxury yachts
the better question is: how the fuck did some sneaky shills manage to convince the whole board and most of the internet that higher digital distribution taxes have no effect on the consumers? How desperately do you retards need to ignore basic economics to think that higher middle man taxes have no effect on the consumer? How the FUCK can you actually believe that the shit Valve does IS pro-consumer when they are literally just trying to get away with leeching as much money from the industry as possible, while Tim is trying to achieve the exact opposite. But even disregarding that, how the fuck can you be gaslighted into thinking that the fucking nothing Valve did in the last 10 years is anywhere close to the contribution of Epic to gaming and game devleopment?
you are a bunch of fucking cultists
You know how Epic takes a lower cut? Well, the games on EGS still cost the same as they do on Steam. More revenue for publishers means absolutely nothing to me, the consumer if that saving isn't passed on to me.
It's been proven time and time again that tim doesn't give a flying fuck about the consumer, he wants to go over their heads to court developers and expects the consumer to fall in line.
He's outright hostile to our interests.
>unproductive leech middle man
lmao, wtf is this. what is epic going to do that's going to empower the gamer race or bring us better games? nothing, nothing at all. steam is still better than the EG store and nothing you can say will change that
until somebody creates a platform that is worlds better than steam nobody is going to want to shift, and every year that goes by where that doesn't happen makes that shift even less likely
Too be fair. The platform that steam has created is so fucking good that it's impossible to compete against them. Thank god that they spend all their time into improving upon it and the Linux side of things as well. (You know they're only doing that to remove their dependance on Microsoft, but it still ends up being a net positive).
Now if only they could fix the client from being dogshit on Wayland.
If they had a flatpak version of their store that was easy to install and use on my SteamDeck with well supported native builds for all the games using their engine, or even just a really good Wine+native Vulkan set up for them I'd have to seriously consider buying games from them instead of from Steam.
The only thing I hate Steam/Valve for is how they're now trying to kill key sites
Tim-san, please explain why do i need EOS in single-player games on Steam?
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1649240/discussions/0/3772364735643592153/
https://steamdb.info/tech/SDK/EpicOnlineServices/
This guy seethes about Valve 24/7 and they don't even give a shit lmao
because they did it first and are actually successful
timmy is extremely salty and butthurt
He's right
Epic Games' tools are crossplatform and free
Valve's tools prevent communication with other systems
>crossplatform
I don't want that.
Steamworks is and has always been crossplatform, you fell for his lies.
Same reason Trump was so butthurt at Bezos, one was more successful in business than the other even though they were both retarded
He has become accustomed to having a monopoly on game engines with unreal, and only knows how to seethe and moan when not controlling a monopoly
That's every fucking entrepreneur now.
>muh monopoly
Okay Timmy. When are you making Unreal Engine fully open source and give people the option to use it entirely for free? No paycut bullshit. Your engine being as popular as it is clearly kills all competition and you don't wanna be the evil monopoly man right?
But Timmy only gets a paycut(a low cut too) if they break the bank on sales and not a penny before
And while UE is a good engine(lol) for what it does, it isn't the best nor only choice on the market
unreal's cut isn't that bad, at least from my non dev perspective. it's 5% over 1 million in revenue
>Your engine being as popular as it is clearly kills all competition and you don't wanna be the evil monopoly man right
this is a good rebuttal if Tim / Epic makes an argument that Steam is a monopoly. UE is popular because it's fairly good, just like steam
UE also isn't even the dominant free engine, Unity absolutely stomps it in revenue
>Why does he hate Valve so much?
back in the day he (timmy) declared PC gaming was dead/a dead end, Gabe and Valve proved him very wrong, and he has been seething coping and malding ever since
He's such a loser.
>chews your remote
this will never stop being funny
Steam has things like workshop support and a community tab etc, he is complaining about the competition offering more than his is. If he wanted to actually compete he should do something that actually makes the platform itself worth using over others, right now it is only used because it has exclusives, which isnt a feature.
>team has things like workshop support
Which is acting as a monopoly
>get game from anywhere else
>get no mods
>get game from anywhere else
>it's a pirated copy because it's ONLY sold on steam
hmm...
So you admit it's a monopoly
Numerous games exclusively use the workshop, and most of those games are on GoG
Nothing stopping GoG from doing it too.
>make your platform better than others and integrate good features
>"ummm, ok, you cant just make your platform better than mine, we all have to agree to do the exact same thing so we are all on even footing, ok? Noone improve their platform, because they might get out ahead of the others, and thats just not ok."
Those other platforms should improve, not demand the most popular one be cut off at the kness so they can see eye to eye.
Yeah other platforms would hold things hostage and ban them from being available to anyone else
Wait why is Epic the bad guy again for doing this?
>Why is epic considered bad for introducing a problem where there was none
Gee, I wonder, Timmy.
Steam was already doing it
Keep coping.
If you wonder why people hate your disgusting platform that and the fact that you treat your customers like retards and try to go over their heads to cater to devs while acting like a saint may be why those same people you spurn avoid you though.
>Make your platform better
>Nah we'll just use our giant pile of money to hoard exclusivity deals
How are these two things comparable?
Do your own research, I got shit to do. The entire non newtonian mod drama should be enough anyway but I'm sure one of the people who make anti-modder threads can share some of their collection of people having meltdowns and deleting their shit back in 2016 because orange man won.
I did look and I found nothing, it was shit like;
>mod that adds a pleated skirts to the game was taken down because the chud mod got angry about orange man and people in the comments talking about it
>adds trans flag to game. People talk shit in comments. They take down the mod and say they are sucidal
Thats it? Thats what youre worried about? Not overhauls and actual game changing stuff? These are the sorts of mods this always happens to, things that people just replicate and carry on from.
Epic isnt bad for doing this, but it is retarded, and doesnt work if the idea is that its trying to make the platform itself worth using over others.
>you have to go through us to play the game
vs
>you want to go through us because our store offers more features, if you get the game with us there are other features through our platform
Copy Steam Tim, add community tabs and a "workshop" and then go from there.
he wont, EGS has as far as i care proven tim wants to ape steams and gabes success but in the laziest ways possible (and os failing at it), why add features when you can just bribe people with free games and exclusives (that are only time locked and require bribing devs)and make hollow virtue signals about consumers on twitter
hint:neither work and thats why he has to pump china bux and fortnite bux into EGS to keep it going and why it offers a shit experience to either steam or GOG for that matter
tl:dr:tim wants steam success but doesnt want to put in time money or effort
>hold things hostage and ban them from being available to anyone else
Yeah it sucked when modworkshop.net had to shut down because Payday 2 already had a Steam workshop
Because, like all good memes, the "muh PC gamer master race" has a grain of truth to it. Exclusivity was seen as a feature of the console peasants and their need to defend their console or exclusive because their parents would only buy them one of them. Timmy Tencent was seen as bringing that cancer to the PC platform where such shit isn't welcome.
But Steam doesn't force games to exclusively use the workshop for mods, and mods made with dev-provided modding tools can be posted anywhere and installed without the Workshop
You forgot:
Even if you find a mod site
>It might be deleted
>It might be outdated, and the newest is on the Workshop
>The mod site Jannie sweeped the mod (No-Newtonian Style)
>The mod maker is a sperg and had a meltdown. Now his mod is Goatse Supreme or it has DRM. Better yet its trojan to own "insert political group"
How many times have you experienced this that its something that you actually think is worth worrying about?
NTA but all of what he said happens extremely frequently barring the second one
>frequently
Then multiple examples should be easy to find. Care to provide them?
Youre aware that mods exist outside of the workshop right? The workshops is effectively a mod launcher/compiler so you dont have to use 3rd party software and is more user friendly. It hasnt a monopoly on anything. Shit, what is stopping Timmy from doing this? They own the fucking UE engine, one of the most modded platforms there is, but they dont have intergration with their platform to mod those games?
>no other platforms even try to implement mod support
>MONOPOLY!
>Barren storefront that nobody views
>Lacks critical features Steam had 5-10 years ago
>Has to bribe developers for exclusivity
>People just load up your client to get the free games you hand out and play fortnite
>Games actively do not sell because people don't even fucking know they're on PC because EGS does such a shit job marketing their actual exclusives
Rumbleverse probably wouldn't have died if it was on Steam.
Thanks for the games Timmy!
thank you timmy for giving out death stranding kojima edition by mistake
All you have to do timmy is make your own api and then embed it into unreal so it's even more convenient for devs. You have to inovate and compete but you won't even add a mod workshop to fucking epic store. It also took two fucking years to add a shopping cart.
Go Tim Go!
Success breeds jealousy.
he is just a troll
An Oldie.
Is that a legit account or a troll? What a disinguous, manipulative, heinous thing.
A troll but funny enough.
satire from the looks of it, but given the state of things these days you always gotta wonder
Pssst hey kid, wanna buy some sword attack animations? 100% genuine
kek and he has the audacity to complain about Steam selling porn
Timmy has only ever had one strat, purchase and consolidate.
It has never worked, and he will never be a successful publisher.
I dunno, I thought Jeffrey Dahmer died decades ago, so what is he doing hating on a vidya company now?
good morning sirs
steme bad and monopoly
epic geme store good
do the needful
Just for that, I'm going to send some gift codes to my friends for them to redeem
SIR
DO NOT REDEEM STEME CODE
REDEEM EPIC GEME STORE NOW BLOODY BASTERD
>Why does he hate Valve so much?
Tim Sweeney is the equivalent of a tryhard gamer who wants to be the best in the world. Instead of doing it the honest way, he uses cheat codes such as Unreal to push him up the ranks, like a kid from a rich family who buys all the DLC that gives him the highest advantage in the game. Thing is, even with all this advantage, no one likes a cheater who can just buy themselves advantages, which leads to the rich kid having a tantrum at the real competition because no one will take in his bullshit cred seriously or stroke his fragile ego.
both are insufferable retards, one is going to pop from fat and the other from chi, so who cares.
gog 4 the win. no one needs drm, only a woke & soon broke aaa industry
He's right though. Steam is cancer.
He thinks Unreal makes Epic the unshiftable top dog of PC gaming. Realizing that it's barely even relevant anymore and that Valve has claimed a massive, unassailable lead on that position in the 20 fucking years since, is taking him time. Acceptance is the last step. I'm sure someone here could apply the stages of grief humourously to EGS and other Timmy Tencent hits, but like everyone else, I don't care enough to bother.