Why does it make zoomers so angry? Are they really too stupid to figure RetroArch out?

Why does it make zoomers so angry? Are they really too stupid to figure RetroArch out?

  1. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    MBG

  2. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >shilling thread

  3. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Could have made a PCSX2 hate thread...

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I use both, since the PCSX2 core sucks ass.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I think the PCSX2 core is fine in that it performs the same as standalone without the hacks. Even now PCSX2 still relies on these hacks they've just instead tried to automate the hacks being turned on so you don't notice

  4. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The absolutely terrible UI. The way it defaults (defaulted?) to immediately quitting the entire application without saving if you press escape is fucking ridiculous. The XMB is fine for a PSP, but it completely falls apart when you're navigating a complex menu system with dozens of menu items, some of which themselves contain dozens of additional items. The way saving of options work is unintuitive, and the weird arbitrary separation of options you can only reach when a game is active versus options which can be reached at any time is confusing as fuck.
    I still use it as my main emulator because it's fucking amazing once you've got a bit of experience with it, especially when you have all the cool thumbnails and stuff in your libraries, but you'd have to be dense as fuck not to see why people get frustrated with it and quit. I'm 31 btw

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Filters the absolute shitters so only people who give a fuck can get into it.
      Perfect, more applications and games should do this.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        OP asked why people hate it, I explained why. Epic e-celeb image btw

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The absolutely terrible UI.
      It's not bad, it could use a good build in guide for newbies though.

      It does a million things and tries to work well even with just a controller.
      I see people complain all the time but honestly, you guys just say "its terrible ui" well, how would (you) improve it?

      Legit if you know it all, go to there forum and tell them.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >reddit-spaced post has to pretend I didn't provide multiple specific examples
        Laffin
        Why even post

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >muh reddit spacing
          Ah I see it's not worth discussing this with a retard like you.
          Should've known when you complained about things that aren't even a thing in later RA versions anymore.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >still no actual response to my multiple specific examples
            Concession accepted then, thanks.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Like

              Escape is still the default but has a warning popup on first press.
              XMB isn't the default menu now.
              Save interval is on by default now but I don't know if it writes out on quit.
              Menus are fine after the small effort to learn them and pay off in spades when they're consistent across platforms. However, one would take issue with multiple but smaller menus vs fewer but larger menus. There is winning.

              pointed out you are just talking shit.
              But its okay I don't care about winning an argument you can lick my asshole bro.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Take inspiration from foobar2000. Total control over placement and what information is displayed.
        Actually just do this for every program.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >how would (you) improve it?
        If you insist on making some options only appear when you have a game selected, instate a pause between the loading of the core and the actual starting of the game so it doesn't feel like you're starting a game then pausing as fast as you can to configure shit. Let powerusers turn off this pause if they so wish.
        Dump literally all your effort into the windows UI for a solid week per month until it lets you do everything a more standard UI would.
        As a bonus/stretch goal, make a lightweight/portable installation of retroarch that lets you run a game by drag and dropping the ROM or ISO directly onto the EXE. Completely strip this version's ability to do things like scanning folders.
        Now people can use retroarch like they use other emulators.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >As a bonus/stretch goal, make a lightweight/portable installation of retroarch that lets you run a game by drag and dropping the ROM or ISO directly onto the EXE. Completely strip this version's ability to do things like scanning folders.

          You have always been able to drag and drop on Windows.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Oh, alright then. Cool.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >As a bonus/stretch goal, make a lightweight/portable installation of retroarch that lets you run a game by drag and dropping the ROM or ISO directly onto the EXE. Completely strip this version's ability to do things like scanning folders.
          hahahahahhahaha. The problem is ALWAYS wintoddlers. ALWAYS.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >noooo I want to use this program's special snowflake interface instead of the common sense solution that every other emulator uses

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >this thing which retroarch literally already does is an insane request
            Thanks frogposter

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          If I saw one of my friends drag and drop a rom into an emulator .exe I would end that friendship.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            And there you go, the typical retroarch user.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            If I saw one of my friends using software that tried to funnel them through its own totally special snowflake file management when all they wanted to do was OPEN ONE FUCKING GAME I would go to bat for them against the program's developers.
            >b-but retroarch is supposed to be for people who want to load up a huge library of ROMs
            Then don't have exclusive cores or visual options.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Escape is still the default but has a warning popup on first press.
      XMB isn't the default menu now.
      Save interval is on by default now but I don't know if it writes out on quit.
      Menus are fine after the small effort to learn them and pay off in spades when they're consistent across platforms. However, one would take issue with multiple but smaller menus vs fewer but larger menus. There is winning.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        *There is no winning.
        Backspace blues.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing I feel like the UI needs is a keyword search bar.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      If you used it for longer than 5 mins you'd realise you can change all those things and configure it how you want it.
      If you're 31 you have the brain of a ADHD 21 year old.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        The question was "why do people dislike this emulator", which I gave an answer to. You're literally on the spectrum.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >you can change all those things
        Alright, show me how to change this one:
        >the weird arbitrary separation of options you can only reach when a game is active versus options which can be reached at any time is confusing as fuck.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >immediately quitting the entire application without saving if you press escape is fucking ridiculous
      >press escape once
      >"press escape again to quit"
      >probably spamming escape because you're a retard
      >application closes

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It wasn't always like that, based zoomer retard. The post even referenced the fact that this may have been changed. Hope you can sort yourself out a bit, it's not normal to respond like this to criticisms of an emulator frontend's UI.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Bro it's been years since that got changed. Why you still screeching about shit from the past? You waste more time screeching about it here than simply checking out the current state of the program.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >Bro it's been years since that got changed. Why you still screeching about shit from the past?
            I haven't used the defaut settings in years.
            > You waste more time screeching about it here than simply checking out the current state of the program.
            The post literally described that I use and enjoy Retroarch.

            So he's uninformed and I'm the idiot here? Fucking retard

            Yes, you absolutely are, because the post specifically stated that this may have been changed and you still attempted your weak as fuck "gotcha" anyway. You were able to respond to a single one of the points I made, and you had to ignore part of the statement to do it.

            Both of you: I hope you can get the help you need. I cannot stress enough that responding like this to mild criticism of a program's UI is not normal. Good luck.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Why not provide feedback though on how it could be done better with specific examples? Saying a UI is shit and 'just make it better lol' obviously isn't going anywhere.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Read the thread. Last reply.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                A mouse driven UI rather than a cluserfuck XMB design with layers and layers and layers of menus.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It's designed to be a navigable ui for controllers. You cant use a controller to browse through windows folders. Your "suggestion" ui goes against retroarch's purpose.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                It has that.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          So he's uninformed and I'm the idiot here? Fucking retard

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            He indicated that it may have been changed in his post. You're an idiot for not picking up on that.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >The absolutely terrible UI.
      It's not terrible. You're just a brainlet.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You are an utter mong if you don't understand why having all your options displayed in huge one-column lists nested within other huge one-column lists is a bad idea.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Both can be true. The ui is objectively terrible from the various screenshots in this thread.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          There haven't been any proper screenshots of it ITT. It looks like this. Every menu is like this. There are lists within lists, down to 3 layers deep in some cases. Some of the lists are over 50 items long. You'll change a setting, then want to change it back, and completely forget where it was. Oh, and there's an entire other tree of settings you can only access when a game is running, too.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            That menu style looked god awful for rom lists in

            >>load content
            rom and retroarch suggests appropriate core
            Who the fuck doesn't have their games sorted into playlists by console?

            why the fuck would they use it for configs?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              They wanted a UI which can be the same on every single system - retroarch works on basically everything. When you're using it on a PS Vita or a 3DS, the UI makes perfect sense (although it's still a bit clunky). When you're using it on a PC it is absolutely pants-on-head retarded. You can't criticise it without upsetting a weird dedicated core of autists though, who will fall over themselves to deny that anything is wrong with it.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >When you're using it on a PC it is absolutely pants-on-head retarded.
                Yeah it'd be like using Kodi instead of a standalone player.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >You'll change a setting, then want to change it back, and completely forget where it was
            That's not true. If you close the menu and open it again it will be wherever you were.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, fortunately when you change an option, you always go straight back to the game without moving anywhere or viewing any other options. Thanks anon, that's very helpful.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >when you change an option, you always go straight back to the game without moving anywhere or viewing any other options
                Why are you making shit up? That doesn't happen.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                Read the post again and think hard about what I might be saying.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            jesus christ, that's awful. and you know it's entirely so lazy gays can just open the emulator and manipulate it with the controller, too.
            THIS is what an emulator should look like, peak performance, all options are available without launching a ROM, and if you have your settings ready to go, you doubleclick a ROM and pick up the controller. this is THE way things should be, anyone who does otherwise is doing it WRONG.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, I agree. I actually only saw this UI for the first time yesterday and instantly loved it. It is much better than the old one.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              wow is that the heckin dolphin emulator!?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            THE BASE THEME IS THIS NOW YOU FUCKING RETARD
            It's a million times better.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              It's literally still lists within lists anon

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          There haven't been any proper screenshots of it ITT. It looks like this. Every menu is like this. There are lists within lists, down to 3 layers deep in some cases. Some of the lists are over 50 items long. You'll change a setting, then want to change it back, and completely forget where it was. Oh, and there's an entire other tree of settings you can only access when a game is running, too.

          That menu style looked god awful for rom lists in [...] why the fuck would they use it for configs?

          >the
          >it
          There's like 5 different menus you can use for RA. A switch-like one is the default, that XMB one was the default years ago but isn't now, there's also the desktop menu

          It has that.

          , then a low res/high res simple menu.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The desktop menu is missing an absolute ton of options, anon.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Such as?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              >missing an absolute ton of options
              No, it's missing a few options.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Wow, 5 whole different piles of shit to choose from? Show the "good" one, because the desktop menu example is also terrible.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >specially when you have all the cool thumbnails and stuff in your libraries
      Wouldn't it be cool as fuck if instead of showing the box art, showing a random gameplay clip. But not from a video, instead it would literally boot up the emulator (with minimal settings for efficiency) in a little window with a save state and have pre-recorded inputs to demonstrate gameplay. It would require almost no storage and recording inputs for demos would be way easier than recording gameplay and editing/formatting the video after.

  5. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Me making up false scenarios in my head

  6. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    retroarch is bloatware zoomers love it

  7. 6 days ago
    Square Enix Human Resources Manager

    It's not zoomers, it's boomer wintoddlers. They are literally on the same tier on tech literacy as their grandma.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It's not zoomers, it's boomer wintoddlers
      Literally this. I once set it up for my nephew years ago and he still plays on it without problems.

      Ganker is just full of retards

  8. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Retroarch is exclusively used by zoomers. It requires you to learn a completely retarded special boy way of doing everything for absolutely no reason. The older you get the more set in your ways you become and less likely to embrace OC do not steal UI design.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >download cores from within app which update automatically
      >automatically detects input device and appropriate settings
      >throw roms in a folder
      >load content
      >click rom and retroarch suggests appropriate core
      >done
      Where is the obtuse part

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Where is the obtuse part
        Changing any of the settings, some of which are objectively buried as fuck compared to any other emulator with a KBM interface.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >needs 3 input methods for his emulator
          Zoomers probably couldn't even work their way out of a TUI.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          No? Everything you could ever need is neatly presented in the quick menu which can be accessed in game. The only problem is the sheer variety of options, but that's a (You) problem and not an enthusiast's problem.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >neatly presented
            No, not at all. Firstly, there are a bunch of settings which don't reside in the quick menu at all, which results in a lot of confusion until you learn where things are. Secondly, the options which are presented in the quick menu are presented in a series of nested menus which you need to browse through item by item. It's great when you're on (for example) PS vita, and it's total shit when you're on PC. This is why people dislike the UI. You are intentionally dense if you think it's good design compared to an interface where you can use the mouse and see everything on one screen at once.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              it's a unified interface that has to work the same across ALL platforms. It's the same as a game console UI. What exactly is the problem? You want something out of RetroArch which it is not intended to be.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >It's the same as a game console UI.
                Game console UIs are complete dogshit for the same reasons, anon.
                >You want something out of RetroArch which it is not intended to be.
                The UI we're discussing can be completely replaced on PC.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >automatically detects input device and appropriate settings
        It doesn't get more cancerous than this.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I love having to manually configure my ds4 on a new emulator install to play ps1 games, how dare they map the buttons appropriately to this controller that is nearly identical to the orginal.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I love having to guess which button is which for anything that isn't a SNES or Playstation game because the UI only uses Xbox 360 controller terminology.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Shame, that.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                This literally could not be more clusterfucked and shitty if it tried when using literally anything but an Xbox 360 controller.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                inb4 dev

                You map controllers to a RetroPad which just happens to resemble the SNES layout. The abstraction lets the cores ask for "RetroPad's A button" instead of "X Input Device Button 0". The issue is specific to you.

                Explain how runahead works without buzzwords

                A second instance runs concurrent to yours, but N frames ahead assuming the input state (pressing/releasing a button, etc) hasn't changed. When it does change the core "switches" to the runahead instance without waiting, reducing input lag.

                >It's the same as a game console UI.
                Game console UIs are complete dogshit for the same reasons, anon.
                >You want something out of RetroArch which it is not intended to be.
                The UI we're discussing can be completely replaced on PC.

                >The UI we're discussing can be completely replaced on PC.
                Then why haven't you made it? RA is just one frontend.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >The issue is specific to you.
                No the issue is specific to the retarded autist who designed RA who thinks everybody on earth only uses a 360 controller.

              • 6 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Then why haven't you made it? RA is just one frontend.
                I've had sex, I'm not going to sit around coding my own emulator interfaces. I even said that I use RetroArch myself on multiple devices and that it's easily the best emulator overall. OP asked why people hate it, I gave a response explaining some of the things people dislike about it, and a bunch of retards started losing their minds about it as if I'm attacking the program.

                The only thing I feel like the UI needs is a keyword search bar.

                I think it would benefit from multiple columns of items rather than just one. I think the "one column" design was really good for the PSP where a menu might contain 10 things, but falls apart completely on something like RA where menus can have 30+ items.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >>load content
        rom and retroarch suggests appropriate core
        Who the fuck doesn't have their games sorted into playlists by console?

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Trying to do all of that
        >It crashes
        >Start again
        >Whole damn thing stops working or emulation is chunky laggy
        >Try to uninstall
        >Destination folder refuses to be deleted cause root

  9. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw playing sonic 3 with hdr/bfi/runahead on my oled
    >bright and vivid image, perfect motion clarity and no input lag

    Retroarch is too based for this world

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Sir, did you know how much fun you were having? This is a no-fun zone.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Explain how runahead works without buzzwords

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        __________________________No_______________________

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >No there's np deranged shilling on this board, what are you talking?

  10. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I prefer standalone emulators because they are configured to the specific console I want to play without any unnecessary additional options.

  11. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Retroarch won

  12. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    idk i think it's stupid. if i have to find the bios / core / whatever anyways, why not download the actual emulators instead?

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Some of the best emulators require bios files to run, namely Mednafen

  13. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Workflow of any other emulator:
    >Open program
    >Configure
    >Pick game
    >Play game
    Workflow of retroarch:
    >Open program
    >Pick game
    >Pause and configure
    >Resume and play game
    It's not more steps. It's not more complicated steps. But the steps are in the wrong places.

  14. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    its a trash product, it literally serves no purpose and you are better off just running the emulators by themselves. no one is too stupid to figure it out that is just you coming up with a cope for your lack of taste, it literally has a UI made for 45 year old ape monkey retards that run shit on raspberry pi.
    >muh filters
    please please end your life

  15. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    retroarch is the best thing ever happened to retro gaming. It is set up with few clicks with entirety of libraries of multiple console generations at hand. and no need to use emulators which hasn't been updated in many years with 1 second input lag. retroarch input latency seems almost magic.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >being retarded
      it's a front-end, not an emulator.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        He never called it an emulator, schizo

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >no need to use emulators that haven't been updated
          that implies the retard thinks retroarch does additional work.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            You don't even understand what you're talking about

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >Emulators that haven't been updated in many years
      Bruh people still use ZSNES which works for pretty much any game people want to play anyhow. Those emulators don't get updated because there's nothing to update.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Bruh people still use ZSNES which works for pretty much any game people want to play anyhow.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >bsnes
          >in a RA thread
          In before
          >he faked his suicide!

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            >well Near, looks like I win
            - Squarepusher

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I don't care about drama, i care about emulators and both bsnes and Snes9x are a million times better than fucking ZSNES.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I forgot where I saw it, but someone loaded a ROM into ZSNES and priv escalated through it. It might have been a webm on this board, I'm not sure.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >ZSNES
        >works
        I too, enjoy graphical glitches in my kirby games.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Bruh people still use ZSNES which works for pretty much any game people want to play anyhow.

          I forgot where I saw it, but someone loaded a ROM into ZSNES and priv escalated through it. It might have been a webm on this board, I'm not sure.

          You will never be women.

  16. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    retroarch is aggressively shilled and thats enough to make me avoid it as in the future I am certain it will become payware

  17. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    If I want to play PSX, Duckstation is superior. If I want to play PS2, Nightly release of PCSX2 is superior. I am sure other consoles have their dedicated emulators that are better too. The UI of Retro Arch is horrible. Of course if you like it, use it. Its filters are more flexible.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Literally all wrong

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Everything is correct in that post, what the fuck are you talking about.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Cuckstation is not superior to anything and is mostly just a ripped off Beetle PSX. SwanStation is the libretro counterpart and works better or just as well.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Duckstation is objectively the best PSX emulator. It runs the best and has the most options while being very easy to set up.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              it's just a speedhacked beetle psx. there is nothing 'objectively' the best about it, just false hype by a marketeer called stenzek

  18. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Reotroarch is le frontend
    Biggest midwits on earth

  19. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I like using it for netplay on steam, but thats it

  20. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    My abstracted menus > your abstracted menus

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      This is at least 100 times better than Retroarch.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's the same thing but your mouse gets some hot action. Or keyboard, I'm not judging.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It's a lot of options but presented hundreds of times better than Retroarch's dogshit clusterfucked shit interface.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >It's the same thing
          No, not it's not. Go and take a screenshot of retroarch which shows all of that information. It would be 4-5 screenshots at minimum. You also would not be able to see the list of other menus at a glance, you would need to back out one or more layers to view it. This is why it's retarded.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            It's not a WIMP UI. Get it through your head.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, and I am pointing out the problems with that for this use case. Hope this helps.

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              You're right, it's not a good UI.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          Which of the two nightly builds uses the duckstation menu?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I used AVX2 and it has that menu

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Is there a problem with the old UI?

            • 6 days ago
              Anonymous

              I prefer the duckstation menu.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >in one submenu
          >can see all the titles of the other menus up to three levels above, from the same screen as all of the options in the menu you're in
          >can switch from any of them to another at will instead of needing to back out one level at a time and scroll through them all
          How is this hard to understand?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            The dropdown menu is not 1:1 with the... I don't know what their fancy name but the icon menu of the window shown. Notably, Controllers is missing since I guess that icon menu can't handle it. They'd have to do something like this.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You do know that its faster to do stuff by moving with a keyboard instead of a mouse right?

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            I said I wasn't judging.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who can't see why this is kind of UI superior to "muh columns" for displaying a lot of information at once must be mentally deficient.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >tabs within tabs instead of everything being mutually exclusive submenus you can only view one of at a time
      THANK CHRIST, IT'S AN ACTUAL USER INTERFACE!

  21. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >No risk of degradation
    >Can keep your games forever
    >Can add any kind of filter you want
    >Works on the Steam Deck
    >Can use any controller you want
    >IS FREE

    You have absolutely no excuse not to be selling your entire collection right now.

  22. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >people come out of the woodwork to screech that the XMB is a great menu
    >people point out the problems with it when you're dealing with fuckloads of nested options
    >the apologists instantly vanish
    Why is every retroarch thread the same?

  23. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >people complain about retroarch having a console-like menu and not a desktop menu
    >literally the 3rd option, right smack dab in the middle of retroarch when you start it, is 'Show Desktop Menu'
    lol everytime.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Half the options are completely missing from this version of the UI, based absolute retard.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Last time I tried that option it would CTD no matter what. It's that stuff that drives me nuts, like how it's random whether it actually accepts input from my Hori Fighting Commander in x-input mode or not on any given day.

  24. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Are they really too stupid to figure RetroArch out?
    Yes but it's not just retroarch. They cannot figure anything out that's tech related and isn't a paid streaming service.

  25. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It's a piece of shit. Only use if you have no other options.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Other options don't exist once you stop being retarded.

  26. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    According to Ganker, zoomers are getting younger.

  27. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Let's see Paul Allen's settings menu

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Oh NO, but actually.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        I went into the Hotkeys tab, pressed Triangle, and it unset all of them. Help.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          A good majority of them at least.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        And how is that shit you show any better than RetroArch's UI?

        It's the same fucking thing

  28. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Retroarch is a great example of trying to sell people shit they don't need to fix a problem they don't have.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      People should always try to improve, else we would still be using garbo like ZSNES and Bleem

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        what the fuck is wrong with zsnes

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          It was outdated a decade ago, right now it could be considered a relic of times when emulation could have been crappy and no one would have cared much, all they cared was that the games started.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed.
        Retroarch should improve their UI to be almost as convenient as the 25 year old standard of opening a folder in file explorer and double-clicking Sonic2.gen and having it instantly start playing in Kega Fusion.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Retroarch should improve their UI
          Why? What's wrong with it?
          Works for me.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          you can load content like that though i think you're just a dumb moron.

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            you are correct I am just a dumb a moron

          • 6 days ago
            Anonymous

            Oh yeah? Go right-click -> open with Retroarch.exe and see how well it works.
            Oh, it doesn't hit this trivial baseline standard that has been how emulation has worked on 98% of computers since 1998? Sounds like a developer issue.

  29. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >Are they really too stupid
    Yes this is why when we win, setting up RetroArch from scratch will be the IQ test for voting.

  30. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Retroarch is the gobohomo of emulation

  31. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Winjeets were a mistake.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >you're a pajeet because you actually like your operating system and don't enjoy retards who think they know better trying to hide it and present their alternative (that's just a bunch of lists and sublists) as superior

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        No, you're a pajeet for thinking the world revolves around Windows.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          if the world has to revolve around windows for it to be the default for emulator design, then I guess the world DOES revolve around Windows already!

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >No, you're a pajeet for thinking the world revolves around Windows.
          bro, Retroarch has almost zero difference between platforms. Save the Linux/Windows discussion for when some asshat mentions anticheat on a deck thread.
          We are beyond such discussions.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        You're almost certainly arguing with a linuxfag, which is what a lot of retroarch debates boil down to because that's who it was made by. There is no point trying to explain UI design to them, they are too far gone.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          actual babyduck

  32. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Retroarch isn’t hard to use but I still don’t use it. Whenever I emulate a game I’m usually doing so at my desk, and Retroarch just seems like an unnecessary extra step between me and the emulator I want to run. If I was using a console instead of something with a mouse and keyboard attached to it to emulate stuff I would probably use Retroarch. In my setup it just feels like using Steam’s big picture mode at my desk.

  33. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    i stopped using it not because of what everyone has listed in this thread.
    But because I have INTERGRATED GRAPHICS so i cannot switch to Vulkan, believe me I have tried. Every time I switch the driver in the options to Vulkan the exe will outright refuse to boot up because i don't have it. so i am waiting until i can build a computer with vulkan in it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Vulkan improves the performance of the emulators that support it but you can just use Direct X or OpenGL instead

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      AMD?

  34. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    RetroArch is complicated but it has all the settings you need. I just with the citra core wasn't so dogshit.

  35. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    retroach is fucking awful as an emulator.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'd suppose so given it's not an emulator

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Good, because it isn't an emulator, it's a platform for emulation cores.
      Learn to read, retard.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >it's not a turd it's an ass that makes turs

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >asses make turds
          wow it's retarded

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Well its not an emulator kek

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        If it's not an emulator, that means you can easily find non-chud alternative, right?

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          You need to take your pills first, second if you are asking for another frontend then yes they do exist but they are also worse than Retroarch.

  36. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >make zoomers
    I guess only zoomers can like this mess

  37. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why yes, I do participate in society.

  38. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I only use emulators that weren't written by trannies.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      Statistically it is absolutely guaranteed that one or more of the team who worked on this has chuded out.

  39. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn't make me mad, it just serves no purpose. I don't need bloatware to hold my hand to use my emulators.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      individual emulators are a prime example of bloat.

  40. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    It forgot my configs once so it's a piece of shit and I'll just use the actually good, standalone emulators instead of the EPITOME of bloatware

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It didn't forget anything

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >It forgot my configs once

      Programs aren't human beings, YOU forgot to save the configurations.

  41. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Oh look, the negging shill is back

  42. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/libretro/status/1617633411740622848

    Not like this.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      People will still complain. No point in appealing to retards that keep pushing the bar lower.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >just offer less options in the same UI with the same flow
      >nothing is fixed, there's just now an option labeled easymode creating an even more horrible impression
      Welcome to clown world

  43. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I wonder how the knuckle-draggers ITT would react to Mednafen since it doesn't even have a GUI and its the best PS1 emulator, its also the best emulator for the Sega Saturn, PC Engine and the Wonderswan.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      They'd claim it's not worth it when [GUI equivalent] exists.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        They'd be completely right.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Duckstation is that alternative, it was funny to see them praising it left and right when PS1 emulation was "solved" way before it came out.

        What, it's just a command line? That sounds fine then. So long as there's no retardo half-measures like Retroarch's abomination of a UI being all stuffed into one fucking column I'm good.

        Retroarch actually gave Mednafen's cores a GUI, plus the cores have features that aren't available on the standalone version

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          With a command line I can learn commands that function regardless of where I am in a menu structure. If I don't use it often I might be a little slow with it, but at least I don't have to root around in a shitty pseudo-organized set of sublists with sublists. Retroarch is genuinely worse than pure CLI to learn.

          RA also has a CLI, so... hop to it.

          And why exactly would I do that? I don't use Retroarch in the first place except for the occasional N64 game, and I already have that configured. Though it took far more effort than it should've.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      What, it's just a command line? That sounds fine then. So long as there's no retardo half-measures like Retroarch's abomination of a UI being all stuffed into one fucking column I'm good.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        RA also has a CLI, so... hop to it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      It doesn't have a bundled GUI you mean. This is actually nice because I can have the launcher on my main monitor and the game launch on my CRT, but it has trouble hanging on to 2560x240 for some reason.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        *2560x480

  44. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    The real question is why does it bother you so much that you shills have to make weekly threads about how people don't wanna use retroarch, have you thought about that retard?
    >B-BUT WHYYYY
    because I don't care what it offers. I don't give a shit. there, there's my reasoning. now fuck off.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >weekly
      They're only weekly when the shill gets banned. He used to make these threads 2-3 times a day, for months at a time.

  45. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    >someone made it so retro shaders can be used on any emulator
    it's now worthless

  46. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    there is literally no reason to use this shit over standalone emulators

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      But, but, shaders! I need the screen to bounce around in front of a fake crt that has a realistic glare shining off a metal ball on it! Zoom zoom!

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >just install 35 emulators bro
      Retard.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        you're not playing 35 emulator's worth of games.

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        moron

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        Jackass.

  47. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    Never understood why it gets jerked off so much, every time I've used a version of a emulator in it it's had less options than just getting the emulator standalone, and the menus are clunky and slower than just using the standalone emulator. It's retarded shit for zoomers who want to make le epic custom library with cool images that they can repost in /emugen/ or Ganker for epic emulatorfag cred (they'll never play any of the games in the image)

    Retroarchfags care more about the idea of emulating a game than actually fucking emulating and playing it.

    • 6 days ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't have runahead, 240p, and CRT royale
      sad!

      • 6 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Retroarchfags are shaderfags
        sorry I play on a real CRT not the awful shaders you gays always pretend are totally 100% accurate to CRTs when you've never seen an actual CRT in your life.

        • 6 days ago
          Anonymous

          >sorry I play on a real CRT
          Yeah, a 30kHZ VGA CRT. You're not using your standalone emulators on a 15kHz CRT at 240p60 lmao.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            Which you need a fuckton of things to even acomplish properly you shit, why are you leaving them out?

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              No you don't. You just need something that can run retroarch and something that outputs at 240p, either directly or by downscaling.
              A raspberry pi is the easiest way to do it

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Raspberry Shit.

                Also your tv needs scart or rgb component which is hard to come by these days no matter how much you naysay, and your gpu needs DP out and use a non chink transcode.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                A Pi 4 will emulate everything up to N64 and even some Dreamcast, all while doing real 240p out of the box. It's by far the cheapest and easiest way to have emulation on a 15kHz CRT.
                Want RGB, S-Video, or Component? Then you just get an HDMI to VGA converter, and plug that into the relevant converter on ebay. $50 tops.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You will never be a user-friendly program

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >Mac

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Literally just flash the image using the RaspberryPi flashing tool and you are good to go.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >the menus are clunky and slower than just using the standalone emulator
      you use the menus once, before you start playing the game, and then you play the game. the speed of the menu only matters if you're constantly using it. why don't you just play a game for once?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        >you use the menus once, before you start playing the game, and then you play the game
        With retroarch that's specifically not true, because there's a whole other set of options for each game that you can only access once you begin playing it.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          >a whole other set of options for each game that you can only access once you begin playing it
          you can save the settings you set in one game to be the default for all games on that core. so you just don't know how to use the program and bitch about it.

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >just use the menus once
            >"that's not possible"
            >w-well you can save settings across all games
            Laffin

            • 5 days ago
              Anonymous

              >set settings once
              >don't save them
              >WTF I HAVE TO SET THE SETTINGS OVER AND OVER!
              that is you anon

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. You said to do the settings once and then play. I am pointing out that this is literally, physically, not possible to do on retroarch. You literally have to start the game before it will even let you access the second magical set of settings that it only shows you once you're in-game. I am pointing out that you either lack a basic understanding of how the program works, or are willing to cope hard to defend it. Either way, this kind of response is not normal and I hope you can sort your life out a bit this year.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Put the game in and turn on the system
                >I AM NOW PLAYING THE GAME!
                >haven't even pressed start yet
                >haven't loaded a save
                >haven't entered a stage
                >wow I'm playing, I'm playing!

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                Cope. Sorry anon, I hope you manage to get things on track soon. Good luck.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                I accept your defeat, dear moronbrain.

              • 5 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You literally have to start the game before it will even let you access the second magical set of settings that it only shows you once you're in-game

                And that is where you are wrong, you can also just start the emulator core and then change the options from there

          • 5 days ago
            Anonymous

            >need a PhD to use it

  48. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    I don't have a problem with the UI, but the way overrides are handled is fucking broken.

  49. 6 days ago
    Anonymous

    HW fags care more about the idea of playing on real HW than actually fucking playing it

  50. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >CRT shaders are a me-

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >cutting out in meme so that it lookd like its me to deflect

      Now try on a real crt.

  51. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    It emulates NDS much more shittily on Switch than dedicated melonds frontend. That's my only gripe with it tbh.

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      Is MelonDS more accurate than Desmume at this point?

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        Full disclosure: NDS and 3DS emulation is shit on everything. Fuck Citra in particular for even pretending it's half-good and its devs asking for money for nonexistent improvements. Basically, just pick your poison.

        • 5 days ago
          Anonymous

          Hey Nintendo DS must be much better than 3DS emulation at this point and for my experience with Desmume it was pretty good, with Citra i noticed immediately issues of all kinds.

  52. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    But isn't RetroArch the Zoomer Emulator, as opposed to, idk, Zsnes?

  53. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Am I missing the part where I'm supposed to care whether or not your inept bitchasses could use a piece of software?
    In downloading RetroArch, did I make a personal commitment with you to teach you how to use it?
    No bro, I didn't.
    Go to YouTube and learn it your goddamn self like the rest of us and quit being a bitch.
    Damn.

  54. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    >hacked console
    just works
    >emulator
    set up key bindings, download the emulator core, change the UI, scan for roms and if something is broken beg the discord for help
    As a zoomer I'm sick of dealing with discord trannies and buggy programs. So I'll just use the option that requires me to interact with them the least.

  55. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Does the interface is still a shitshow?

  56. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you fags have to act so superior about this when I can just download a specific emulator and it works immediately

    • 5 days ago
      Anonymous

      >works immediately
      if you need it to work immediately instead of just working once you are a gamehopping subhuman dopamine drained moron.

      • 5 days ago
        Anonymous

        You know how video games work in their native platforms, right?

  57. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    chudarch

  58. 5 days ago
    Anonymous

    Meanwhile I'm still using ZSNES

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