Why does Rockstar hate GTA IV?

>immediately retconned its tone and world-building by making GTA V a wacky and LOLSORANDUMB XD game
>killed off one of its most beloved characters (Johnny Klebitz) in stunningly pathetic fashion just to introduce what is basically Rebbit: The Character (Trevor)
>All other references to IV characters in V (eg. Packie, Gay Tony, Brucie, Michelle/Karen) are just throw-away meme shit rather than continuing their storylines in any real way
>Removed its highly-praised realistic physics system from all future games and replaced it with a much more basic one
>The 10th year anniversary update in 2018 saw songs REMOVED from the game. That was it
>The 15th year anniversary this year wasn’t even celebrated by Rockstar at all
>GTA IV has never been re-released on any later gen console, whereas GTA V has been released on 3 subsequent generations, and even the old PS2 games have had several remasters
>They won’t even bother to fix the almost-game-breaking bug that can prevent you from finishing the final mission on present day PCs and Xbox Series X (Niko doesn’t pull himself up into the helicopter no matter how hard you spam space bar/A button)

Seriously why does Rockstar hate this game so much for the past decade or more? It’s tragic that they put so much effort into IV and it’s DLCs and then immediately discarded it as soon as TBOGT was finished. I don't know what it is but they seem very uncomfortable with the fact that people love a late 2000s life sim so much.

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In what world was Johnny Klebitz "beloved"? His DLC was completely slept on.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    GTA 4 was leaps and bounds better than 5 in just about every capacity. Never seen a downgrade so exponential in all my life.
    Easily the most overrated game ever made, and destroyed the industry (TLOU definitely helped too) for good.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >milennials say 4 is better than 5
      >never actual say why except for "muh ragdollerino"
      The game had terrible driving, terrible movement, terrible everything except for the story. The camera is forced forward and walking to running feels so janky.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Arcade hotwheels driving is dogshit
        4 is something you had to get good at

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >car controls like a bar of soap in a bath
          >n-no it's challenging
          So if I make a Mario level where millions of enemies spawn right on top of you and you die, it's not bad design, it's "challenge"?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shit comparison, also the focus was on physics and they did it well. Once you understand how to drive those cars they're fun as frick to play with, especially if you drive good cars instead of taking only the shitboxes which obviously are bad to drive.
            They drive just fine, R* made driving in a packed city actually fun and engaging. Get good

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >get gud lmooo
              Tell me you're childish without telling me you're childish.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it's called "kaizo"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are zoomers this fricking stupid? Did the TikTok corrode your brain?
            Just stick to new games like that Suicide Squad game that just got released. You don't deserve to play older games (probably because you've never actually played any of them due to a shit childhood filled and having an iPad at the age of 5), you're too stupid to enjoy them in an unironic way.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >O-oh god someone's making me look like the moron I am. Uh... Uh... Z-zoomer!
              Everyone clap at this brilliant man's excellent attempt at a roast. Wait, why aren't you guys clapping?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, you're a zoomer, I can tell. Your generation is fricking moronic.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yep you got me. I'm a zoomer alright. It's me, Mr. Zoomerino. Anyway, got anything interesting to say or are we just gonna keep using buzzwords?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Then why doesn't everyone play GTA VI? Oh wait...

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it was too dark

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it focuses on r*ssian """"culture"""". Rockstar realised this mistake in direction way too late.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >John Klebitz
    >beloved

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not OP, but I liked Johnny. Now that I think about it, everyone who played that DLC online was older than dirt. Maybe the mature, dark tone cut into the kid money. In retrospect I'm surprised zoomers got much out of that game. It's slower paced, no jetpacks, and the majority of the references never made it out of the 2000s. Napster, Jack Bauer, Opie and Anthony, what are they getting out of that? I was born in 1995 and feel like the cutoff for the targeted demographic for that game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Jack Bauer
        lmao

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everybody watched that season where the president gets shot. You just don't see 24 get mentioned like that anymore. Another one of CSI Miami, a parody of the theme song is available as a ringtone.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I know. I just forgot the whole series and other shows that rode on the global terror threat trope

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even GTAIV was a huge step down from GTA:SA. People like to forget this but GTA IV stripped more features than it introduced. GTA IV, while still good, was the start of the decline.
    When GTA V hit, I barely got past the first act. Boring, lifeless world. 70% of the map is worthless.
    Psyhics got worse, shooting got worse, ragdolling got worse.

    ENTER GTA 6.
    >bullshots all over the trailer
    >Literally passing off obvious in-game TV station footage as the real thing
    >Frick satire, this time we'll just copy paste memes from tiktok~
    >Protaganists (while I applaud for finally using a female one) are fricking bland as frick
    >Multiple protagonists again, which will bring back the GTA V shizo gameplay, which was fricking stupid

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >GTA IV stripped more features than it introduced
      yeah but SA was so bloated thank god they got rid of all the useless stuff, also it was like a soft reboot into the next gen era (like III before that) and they did it well. They just forgot to actually build on it later on, and instead focused on microtransactions with V

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >so bloated
        It was a good type of feature bloat though.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah I also hate car customization, hydraulics, planes, tattoos, weightlifting, gang war, buying property and all the bloat

        For me, it's all about watching a cinematic. Now that's solid gameplay.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          More than half of those have nothing to do with gameplay, and while they might be cool to have it isn't what makes a game actually good or engaging to play. Like shit you can't have tattoos, who fricking cares? It's cool if you can, but nothing to cry about if you can't

          >get gud lmooo
          Tell me you're childish without telling me you're childish.

          tell me you're a fricking zoomer without using zoomer memes

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >More than half of those have nothing to do with gameplay, and while they might be cool to have it isn't what makes a game actually good or engaging to play. Like shit you can't have tattoos, who fricking cares? It's cool if you can, but nothing to cry about if you can't
            It's pointless to tell this to Rockstardrones. They know this company has never produced a good game since GTA 3 and they use meaningless bloat as a cope for having shit baseline gameplay.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I liked Red Dead Redemption, especially the Undead Nightmare DLC. Other than that, you're right.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Tattoos are fair, but planes? Stats you get to grind by weightlifting? Car customisation in a game where you drive and race a lot of cars? Gang wars which were pure gameplay? Frick outta here

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Stats you get to grind by weightlifting
              In what world was that fun? The stats fricking sucked ass and contributed nothing meaningful to the game
              >Gang wars which were pure gameplay?
              These sucked too and were the worst part of SA.

              Planes also just wouldn't work in GTA IV unless you're expected to bail out every time because other than the airport there's really nowhere suitable to land because of how dense the map is

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Planes are the only noteworthy loss and they wouldn't even really work with IV's map

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, car hydraulics is where the GAMEPLAY is at
            No hydraulics = shit movie game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Hydraulics fricking suck. Nothing worse than accidentally stealing a car with that shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >no car customization
            >can't get fat
            >can't learn new melee move sets
            >Can't really customize your version of Niko
            >No real gang interaction
            >No property
            While all those might not be absolutely necessairy, I do think all these are noteworthy losses.
            Shit like the above does wonders for making the world feel alive.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't justify a lack of features really, but I never miss them. Niko owns nothing. He stays in his cousins apartment, then his cousin buys the one in Algonquin. The only reason why Niko has access to the Playboy X loft is because Dwayne inherited it but can't stand to live it in. Ray gives Niko an apartment to stay in during the Aldnerney section of the game. As far as hairstyles go, he's a balding yokel. I would've liked some basic car customization, but if you play the game realistically like an autist, he only gets the Comet from Brucie in the story mode. So every car is supposed to be left with the door open in a shit neighborhood after a mission.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he only gets the Comet from Brucie in the story mode
                He also gets the Infernus from Bernie

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Those don't really make sense in the game's context, even tho some wouldn't be bad to have I don't miss them as they felt more like chores than making the world feel alive.
              Yet making the world feel alive is one of the things they managed to do very well compared to the 3-trilogy. With one simple trick: physics. In 4 the world felt more interactive thanks to it, npcs didn't feel like cardboard when tyrannizing them, instead they'd react to what you'd do to them. They even had some life in them as they would interact with the world around them more than in 3 where they just walk around aimlessly in the city (still the case in 4 but with more variations)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You hear the same frick me in the ass Mexican pedestrian in V no matter what part of the map you're on.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This feels like something that would be referenced on Ganker like 10 years, but now it’s seemingly a complaint

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >GTA was always wacky and cartoonish
    >GTA 4 has extremely dark story but still includes some wacky elements
    Okay if you like it for the story, but it didnt really fit in with the series. I didn't like 4 or 5. When I think about it, I liked both Vice City and San Andreas, but I was a kid at that time, I probably would not have liked them if I was born earlier.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>They won’t even bother to fix the almost-game-breaking bug that can prevent you from finishing the final mission on present day PCs and Xbox Series X (Niko doesn’t pull himself up into the helicopter no matter how hard you spam space bar/A button)
    That's a frame rate issue. You need to lock refresh rate to 60hz.

    There's no way of monetizing GTA 4 any further. Just accept it's abandonware.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it was made by talented people who no longer work there so they can never top it

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    4 is utter shit. 5 was derivative in a lot of ways but it was way better than 4. I was so pissed off that I bought that turd on release. Everything about it was shit, the driving, the horribly obvious scripted invincibility, the poor gunfights, everything fun stripped out, online was garbage

    Frick I hate that shit game and I want to deck anyone that thought it was good
    >muh Johnny
    No frick off nobody played the dlc except morons. Who would buy dlc for a shit game?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Absolutely this.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Absolutely this.

      Both gays.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gta 4 is an ugly grey depressing brown turd that kickstarted the soulless era of gta . removed a bunch of features for online slop and DLC

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do zoomers get filtered by IV's driving

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >NOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKIN SOVIET DEPRESSION MURDERER SADBOI 100 WHOLESOME
    GTA 4 was a tech demo for the new engine, that's all.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >tech demo does everything better than the subsequent games

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Niko was based as frick

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody gave a frick about Johnny K and what happens to him in 5 is a logical continuation of his plot from TLAD

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The talented and passionate members of the developing team all left, and there's animosity between the former and current employees. Rockstar treats everyone like shit, just look at how they treat their voice actors
    And sometimes game studios get very lucky and have their own lightning in the bottle. Obsidian had New Vegas, then made Outer Worlds. Volition made Saints Row 2, then Saints Row '22. Bungie's OG Halo trilogy to Infinite...
    Rockstar peaked with III, VC, SA, and IV. It's only downhill from here

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Went too far in the realism department and got too boring and depressing for normies, especially those who played previous entries. I loved it but it was the first GTA game I ever played due to not having a PS2 until long after the PS3 came out.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mostly cos its now wokestar (in an interview they celebrated removing all the old devs), and GTA V is their money maker because of gta v online.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IV was a boring game. V was also a boring game.

    Both games suck, but I think IV was worse.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're hiring if you think you can do better than their current employees.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No remaster after RDR1 printed money with minimal effort means they definitely hate IV.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've played gta 4 as an adult and can say with confidence that johnny...is an alright guy. I don't care much that he died in 5. He just isn't as cool as niko. Hell luis is a boring fricking gay too so what the frick is it with people pretending they care so much about dlc characters? Literal mental illness.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IV is the only one I never played. I played the first one a lot in 98. I was excited for the 2nd one and played it when it came out but it felt really bland and I guess what we today call soul less. Just didn't have the excitement that the first one had even though I had like a voodoo4 card or whatever it was and ran 3dfx really well.

    GTAIII I didn't play for a while after release but started renting it from video shop then bought it on xbox. Loved Vice city and played the fricking shit out of it. Also played it on pc at the local LAN cafe a lot. I remember that guy, not much older than me but fricker bought a VY or VY (can't remember now) v8 ute that had the I think it was 306kw upgrade and owned 3 baskins and robins. But yeah didn't play too much of San Andreas either actually except on mates playstation, ended up playing later. Pity the Vice City remaster was so shit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ahhh. Remember playing gta 2 on og PlayStation. Good times

      Yeah. The only good “remaster” in that trilogy is gta 3. Only because of better check points. The campaign in that game are annoying as frick without checkpoints

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The same reason Bethesda hates Fallout NV. It’s a better game made by different people

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have no idea

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Check out that hottie on the far left . What a sexy """""""woman"""""""".

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Johnny Klebitz
    >one of its most beloved characters
    Come on now

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