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Because no one talks shit about nepotism as much as they should.
If this thread goes on for long enough, there WILL be fuckwads who reply to me, defending it.
Seems like the gaming industry is like the anime dubbing industry where the casting directors all hire their friends and basically create a special club that allows only certain people to ever be hired onto projects.
hollywood is cancerous as fuck, its the real source of crazy nepotism seeping into vidya
Nepotism is how 99% of people who make six-figure salaries earn money. If they happen to be qualified (which is like 1% minimum) than so be it. It sucks but its how the world works.
you tell me
It's not a terrible read, but it just doesn't fit Kiryu's character. That voice seems more suited to a side character or some other (preferably new) main character.
why the fuck did kojima used this dude as a villain on death stranding?
1. Media industries in general hate working with unknowns like rando VAs they haven't heard before or new game dev studios with no history.
2. VAs in general are always desperate for work unless they're a big-name one, and even then they get lapses in work.
4. Once you're in, you're "in", and become buddies with loads of circles unless you get accused of a no-no thing, after which you're blocked out forever, even if the accusation is false.
6. If the VA is liked, you get free advertising and a boost to your rating for basically nothing.
There aren't very many good voice actors.
Troy Baker, the right guy in the photo, is a fucking god tier VA. Everything he touches turns into gold.
Troy Baker hasn't been in anything since TLOU2. It tanked his career.
More like since the NFT shilling.
I never heard about that.
Troy Baker is a bitch that called the Silent Hill 2 VAs greedy assholes and shit while also giving a shit performance in the HD demake. Also is too good for anime even though he got his big breaks from Tale of Vesparia and Persona 4. Nolan North loves VA work and having fun with it while troy is a holier than thou homosexual.
>Also is too good for anime
Source of him saying this? I remember him being quite active on Jap media too but now he's strictly westoid central.
No source, but take his attitude of the original Silent Hill 2 VAs, not doing Kanji anymore and acting like a crybaby bitch while doing TLoU1 and there you go.
Didn't he stop doing Kanji because he went union after persona 4 and atlus didn't want to deal with unions?
Also I remember Troy lamenting that Bandai didn't even bother to call him to do the ps3 version dialogue in Tales of Vesperia. He was disappointed because he was willing to do the work for free because he loved playing Yuri that much.
>troy is a holier than thou homosexual
True, he is a piece of shit, but he is still a very good voice actor. I also despise Matter Mercer, but there is no denying that he is also a very good VA actor.
You have to separate the art from the artist.
>You have to separate the art from the artist.
no i will not. i will pray for troy baker's death every day. i schedule one hour of my free time every day to meditating and thinking intensely negative thoughts about troy baker to try and hit him with enough negative energy to strike him with some sort of illness or bad luck. i will not stop doing this until he is dead.
Union rules I think.
>complain companies reuse the same old VAs
>complain companies use new VAs because they have no experience
also, japs reuse the same voice actors too. you just dont notice it because youre not japanese.
Without unions they could hire randoms for low wages
The Screen Actor's Guild has tiers. The highest tier gives the best health/dental/eye benefits. Yet costs thousands upon thousands of dollars. Millionaire actors pay for their family and friends, while every other actor has to go to lower tiers. The highest tier also guarantees more work.
We need a male voice actor? Guess that's going to be Troy Baker. Picking [Favorite VA] would mean higher pay, since you are going outside of contract rules.
No, Anon. Without unions, the industry would fuck everyone over far more. An example being AI voices and writing. Consumers (You) should be doing everything in your power to fight even less effort in your hobby.
Nolan's cool though
>tfw met him at a con in my city over the summer
I was so happy I did. Signed my TMNT 07 comic
I am that reply. Here's a VA im always happy to hear 🙂
Her and Brittney Karbowski have been consistently great.
What an angel
Met her at a convention awhile ago, genuinely nice person. When I got to talk to her she was the one keeping the conversation going, not only worrying about the signing 🙂
Because you can rely on someone that is proven. Why take a risk on an unknown? If they do good work, were good to work with, and were reliable, why wouldn't you re-hire them on your next project?
Same reason Bink Video kept getting reused.
english voice acting industry is a cartel
Anon, you need to get off Ganker. Localization companies have to pay a fortune for the default voices in Japanese games. In many cases, these leaves them with no money to pay voice actors from their actual country.
VAs in Japan are treated like Hollywood actors.
They're non union.
If you wanna know the REAL REASON Ada's VA changed, it was because the RE2 one was Union.
So Capcom went with that actress from that Netflix series, cast HER for RE4make and called it a day.
>that Netflix series
The one where everybody was black?
troy is obscenely talented
you can rarely tell it's even him because he has such a range
if you're going to pay top dollar, i don't know why you'd choose anyone else
>troy is obscenely talented
Name a game he's been in since 2020.
I know you’re shitposting here, but this is actually true of Nolan North.
People say he only ever does Nathan Drake voice, and that’s kinda true if you look at his main character roles. But he also does a ton of minor nobody characters that no one even thinks about. Like he was the German scientist guy in COD zombies back in the 2010-2012ish era. He was the main bad guy (French skunk) and his lieutenant (Cuban tiger) in Sly 4. He was N.Gin in 1 or 2 crash bandicoot games.
Troy Baker seems like a bit of pretentious douche, who only does “high quality” roles. Wheras Nolan North will seemingly play anything or anyone.
That's why they call it a union.
I just wanted to come in here and say FUCK Yuri Lowenthal, talentless fucking hack. Zero range and he sounds like a bitch, if I ever see him in real life I'll rip his balls off with my bare hands.
Why do chimpanzees always go for the nuts?
Grab his dick and twist it
JYB does a pretty good job in most things, He's not as active as he used to be but I'm happy to hear him when he is.
I haven't even heard of anything from Troy Baker since TLOU2. He would've been a decent Kiryu.
Because voice actors are generally fucking shit. They can for the most part only do cartoon voices, exagerated bravado and yelling half their fucking lines in some ridiculous fucking voice. Most of them are stuck in the 90's still.
Subtlety isnt exactly their strong suit. There's only a handfull voice actors than have the chops to do anything remotely close to serious drama and alot of producers just hire actual actors to do it in mo-cap instead of going through the hassle of finding some half decent voice actor.
Nepotism, but also it was kinda reverse nepotism at the start.
Like with the funimation gang and the 10 anime voices in the 00s. Being willing to do it was seen as a black spot so they just had to keep hiring the same people over and over.
It's already happening with Yong Ya
What happened to other Kiryu voice actor? Did he retire?
There was never an english Kiryu voice actor.
Laziness I guess. Most games are shit anyway, no one caresz least of all the parasites making them.
I like Troy Baker's performance every time he's in something, but I will admit he especially looks like a douchebag in that picture for some reason. I don't even like calling people douchebags, but that's the first thing that came to mind when I saw this picture.
Whos the qt in the picture
Didn't the guy on the left die?
No. Why would you think that?
I heard someone say he went south.
Because here's what happens when they don't.
I'm not sure OP but I've gotten a surprising amount of roles while coming from absolutely nothing. It's possible its just fucking hard. Also Nolan North is based and Yong Yea is the worst thing to happen to modern VA.
>I've gotten a surprising amount of roles while coming from absolutely nothing
What projects have you been in anon?
A handful of major studio releases as side characters and a shit load of indies. I'm in a new indie game that everyone keeps roasting for controversy on here too. Don't wanna say which ones for obvious reasons but it would surprise people just how much work you can get by being a decent enough actor. You don't have to suck the union dick since covid and remote recording. Most remote set-ups are shit though anyone that tells you a good mic won't get you a job is a liar
Love to hear more anon but i understand if you dont want to share more details. Good shit for getting into different roles. Hope you get more in the future.
American VA's are terrible because they're not trained actors, they're people who read lines.
If you want quality English speaking VA's you go to England where the people there are acting in television, on the stage and doing VA, they have to be multi-occupational by the nature of the competition in Britain. However in the U.S. because of the strong Cali Union if you are accepted as a VA for games you can make that your solitary career.
The worst voice actor in Project Wingman is the one guy with a british accent. He sounds like he recorded his lines on a phone and just doesn't sound like a pilot would.
I've not played that game or know who you're referring to so I can't really comment. I would say by and far the best examples of British VA's especially this year alone with FFXVI the voice cast was praised highly, Baldurs gate 3 the voice cast was again praised very highly whereas the Resident Evil 4 remake one of the major complaints was the absolutely atrocious Ada Wong VA who sounded exactly as if she were reading lines as they appeared with no emotive or expressive intonation.
Well I've got news for you, Ada Wong wasn't poorly voiced just because the VA wasn't british.
You're a fucking idiot who doesn't know shit about VO work lmao
wtf he actually looks like Henry
I remember when these two were best friends until they made a gaming channel together on YouTube only until Nolan finally realized what a egotistic homosexual Troy was and left.
>90% of the cast are complete unknowns
Yes, it's great. I just learned that Auntie Ethel was in Eastenders for a few episodes, but then who hasn't? It's like Star Trek for British actors.
The VA industry needs more new talent that isn't of the "eceleb" kind. I like that Stranger of Paradise's main cast is also relatively unknown, at least when it comes to vidya.
if you can count on an actor to show up on time, read lines competently, and is pleasant to work with, why bother trying new talent where recording time is literally money spent?
every second spent in the recording space is money down the drain, you need people who can nail it and nail it fast
Who are some English VAs that are:
>Love their work
>Don't talk politics 24/7
Ben Starr, or any of the cast of FFXIV.
For a second I thought that was Norm Macdonald and Bradley Cooper.
The truth is that people don't actually know what good acting is, including voice acting.
So when you get some voice actors that the public accepts as good it's safer to just reuse them, rather than find a new VA that sounds scientifically identical but the audience decides is shit because a bug flew past them or they had too many beans that evening.
Literally every industry has a job market problem because they want to pay everyone pennies while expecting them to be god wizards at everything without needing training. Once the VA industry feels like doing more voice training, youll see more voice actors.
>Just throw money at the problem
No, the problem is not money it's the lack of hiring outside talent from non-union credentials, casting agents are also a problem because they tend to be unable to decipher what actor is suitable for what role therefore you get a Swiss army knife for a VA who is capable of performing many roles like Noland North or Jennifer Hale.
There is also a huge problem with the hiring being so focused on one State that being California. It is incredibly strange especially given access of technology with the ability to perform VA's from any part of the country, or World for that matter yet the preference for most games to hire their VA's is from a certain Californian based acting agency that is Union aligned.
People who know which one will know what I'm talking about.
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