why does this game's existence bother secondaries so much?

why does this game's existence bother secondaries so much?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does it get shilled by beta males?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    geee i dont know maybe it being FRICKING IMPOSSIBLE has something to do with it? ahaha lose your souls again and agian...frick off. I'm sorry if that makes me casual or secondary. I dont care.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cookbooked webm
      DS2 is just Morrowind now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You just reminded me of Dark Soul 2 mobbing problem. Every 20 steps forward, I had to take 40 steps back to kite the 10 mobs that aggro'd from random places on the map. It wasn't hard, just tedious. That being said, I do feel that Dark Souls 2 has the best feeling of being an adventurer. I would just make the mobs fewer but much harder.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no problem

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I actually like Dark Souls as a hack and slash
          Bad take from a moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            if you played ds2 like a hack n slash you'd get your ass handed to you

            geee i dont know maybe it being FRICKING IMPOSSIBLE has something to do with it? ahaha lose your souls again and agian...frick off. I'm sorry if that makes me casual or secondary. I dont care.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not if you used the GOAT

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >n-no even with the perma health regen and the 20 low health mobs swarming you cant play my dark souls that way
              Stop me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Play like an absolute moron
      >Die
      Only DS3gays think this is a bad thing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Is the only one that has mentioned DS3gays in the entire thread
        Is the DS3gay in the room with you right now?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No but I am talking to him on Ganker right now

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >n-no you don't understand everyone who slightly challenges me is THE DARK SOULS 3 gay!!!
            Most mentally stable DS2tard

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >DS2tard
              Really not helping your case their chief

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wait is your argument that because I don't like DS2, I must like DS3. Are you American? Because this is some tribal amerimutt culture war shit. Personally, I'm actually more of a Bloodborne guy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bloodborne
                Same thing really

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >He avoids the American accusation
                kek

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >No argument
                That means I win

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >didn't make an argument
                >cowers from confrontation
                >declares himself a winner
                >doesn't elaborate
                kinda based actually

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you took Bloodborne and added good shields and estus, you'd get Dark Souls 3. If you took Dark Souls 3 and added guns and blood vials, you'd get Bloodborne.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Too bad DS3's large enemies don't have enough interactions.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you took a steak, ground it up, and served it on a bun, you'd get a hamburger

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You don't get punished for spam rolling in 3 and in fact BB encourages to side step instead of that slow animation garbo.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >ACKually if you change everything about the movesets items enemies and equipment of the game then they're the same!!!
                By that argument Elden Ring is Armored Core

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENEMIES ARENT DROPPING AGGRO AFTER 10 STEPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SAVE ME MOMMY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >play like a moron
      >die
      What's your point?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't really care about it's existance but I do care about what I paid for it when it came out expecting a good game like DS1, what a fricking scam.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >DS1
      >a good game
      fricking lol dark souls fanboys i swear..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You did get a good game. Just not a finished game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      DS1 is fun but even without meta knowledge. It's way too easy to be cheesed.
      I prefer DS2 way in handling the enemy encounters where random mobs are harder than the boss itself.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My favorite Dark Souls 2 content online was a cross-dresser holding up a copy of Dark Souls 2 in the subreddit, and getting 100% of 'you're hot', 'would' and 'lets DM' until he replied saying he was only 14 and the entire subreddit went private instantly. This doesn't really relate to anything, I've just always found it funny af. Predditors aren't beating those allegations.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pics

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Play DS1
    >have fun
    >play DS3
    >have fun
    >play ER
    >have fun
    >play DS2
    >is shit and not fun at all, uninstall and delete

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a more annoying fanbase than das2rannies on Ganker
    Don't forget to sage

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It proves they they just don't get dark souls as a concept and they cannot accept that

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's a game that was sort of designed to filter secondaries.
    >Nerfed backstabs bigtime because backstab fishing ruined most of Dark Souls 1's combat
    >Nerfed blocking and shields because holding L1 literally became a muscle memory thing for many Dark Souls 1 fans
    >Featured more focus on difficult combat encounters that were tuned to be a challenge for somebody who beat Dark Souls 1
    Simple, they hated getting slapped. This game made people literally selectively remember DaS/DeS and ignoring how many ganks and big ambushes those games had while also refusing to adapt. Dark Souls 2 literally just tried to improve upon 1 mechanically and morons got mad that things like ADP were introduced.
    >The graphical downgrade controversy easily dazzles secondaries
    Secondaries aren't really fans of what Soulsborne is as much as they like the aesthetics of the game and what playing the game does for their own identity.
    >Clever shortcuts and things like Parish looping back to Firelink
    These are sorts of things secondaries felt really clever for learning about and appreciate so when DaS2 failed moved to more linear levels with less focus on a believable continuous world, they felt very smart for shitting on it for that
    >Dark Souls 2 is clearly designed with a more utility/hardship sort of mindset and encourages players to use lots of tools and options
    Secondaries are the kinds of goobers who think "no magic, no crossbows, no miracles, no luring, two handed naked zweihander only" makes them a "hardcore" fan ended up feeling the game was poorly designed because they stubbornly tried to play like it was still Dark Souls 1

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Simple, they hated getting slapped.
      I keep seeing people acting like DS2 was hard. You could hold 99 life gems and when you run out, you could buy infinitly more. You could literally have wolverines healing factor running through entire bossfights. There are even playthroughs of people ignoring aoe and the draining the poison from that snake lady's arena because they could heal through all the damage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I keep seeing people acting like DS2 was hard. You could hold 99 life gems and when you run out, you could buy infinitly more.
        Yes and it doesn't matter how many lifegems you pop because they heal over time and you'll die if you get hit again. The lifegems just allowed them to experiment with more hazardous level designs that necessitate taking more damage than before.

        Dark Souls 1 lets you have 20 Estus at every Bonefire and Estus were SUPER strong in Dark Souls 1. Meanwhile in Dark Souls 2 you have to explore and find extus shards and even the Estus heals over time instead of just healing you for your whole HP bar virtually instantly. It's shit like that and not giving you i-frames on fog gates that absolutely MINDBROKE secondaries who were kind of just cheesing the previous game. I don't think they really liked seeing the
        >"equip havel's, two hand your weapon, put grass crest on your back and mash r1 and chug Estus"
        Strat for 4 Kings. The Estus was SO strong in that game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Simple, they hated getting slapped.
          I keep seeing people acting like DS2 was hard. You could hold 99 life gems and when you run out, you could buy infinitly more. You could literally have wolverines healing factor running through entire bossfights. There are even playthroughs of people ignoring aoe and the draining the poison from that snake lady's arena because they could heal through all the damage.

          to clarify "they" means Fromsoft. Fromsoft likely felt the way estus worked was too generous.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You could literally have wolverines healing factor running through entire bossfights.
          No you cant and there's not been one webm or piece of evidence to prove you can, and yet there's half a dozen or so from either ds1 or ds3 of players just tanking hits and spamming estus, but that wouldn't even work against flexile sentry or covetous demon because it's impossible.

          kek the most famous build in Demon's Souls was a passive regen build

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So? Regen remains strong even now in Elden Ring. I like regen builds, they're fun and aggressive.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You could literally have wolverines healing factor running through entire bossfights.
        No you cant and there's not been one webm or piece of evidence to prove you can, and yet there's half a dozen or so from either ds1 or ds3 of players just tanking hits and spamming estus, but that wouldn't even work against flexile sentry or covetous demon because it's impossible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dark Souls 2 is clearly designed with a more utility/hardship sort of mindset and encourages players to use lots of tools and options

      >Featured more focus on difficult combat encounters that were tuned to be a challenge for somebody who beat Dark Souls 1
      These are the bottom lines of DS2.
      DS2 is slow-paced: it's meant to be played carefully, analysing your current scenario, making use of items, terrain, enemy locations and a variety of creative weapons instead of simply using the strongest weapon/spell for the whole map.
      It's slow, VERY slow, punishing and frustrating at times, but I like it that way. Tbh I also liked DS3 (didn't play 1), but the near-instant healing and near-infinite stamina/rolling is just dumb. DS2 forces you to manage your time and resources more carefully, translating into more skill expression. No wonder DS2 pvp has the most weapon variety out of the three.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you cant iframe through fog walls, you lose hp after dying, pressing the roll button at the right time isn't how you beat ganks and people think ganks are unfair artificial difficulty because they're stupid, you actually have to learn how to play the game and git gud and that's asking a lot

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Play a Hex user on release
      >Have a 100% winrate in PVP just by clowning around
      >Just like the developers intended

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    from should bounce Miyazaki and put him back in charge. Holy shit DS2 SotFS is so fricking kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, they let him co-direct Elden Ring and it's their most successful game and possibly best game ever.

      Never let the secondaries make you forget: Dark Souls 2's original design plan was basically just "Elden Souls". You were supposed to explore various fallen kingdoms in a big open world.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Miyazaki is holding the company back. I guarantee he had to fight to get shield counters in because miyazaki just wants the only gameplay to be hitting the dodge button at the right time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are such a moron

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No you are

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nah Miyazaki is a golden king who sits upon the throne. He's the Elden Lord.

          >Beloved Auteur
          >President of his own Studio

          It's like of Kojima wasn't a fricking starfricker moron and was just a based fantasy nerd. There's a lot of bad things in the world right now but Miyazaki isn't one of them. He's the best.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's genuinely crazy what he's done for Fromsoft. I thought the studio was doomed to fizzle out back in the day.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              He's a treasure.
              >Sociology major
              >Pioneers the asymmetrical multiplayer elements of DeS and DaS based on this
              >Weaves in his own childhood experience with western fantasy to create a unique storytelling feeling
              >Literal outstanding Tolkien-esque creator of worlds, using extensive knowledge of history and culture to create fascinating yet believable and grounded settings that are full of meaning and details that MOG most other media, much less games.

              Not if you used the GOAT

              Santier's and Yorgh's are the best.
              >tfw you land the big yorgh spear attack in a duel

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I should combine the two for my next run. Never used Yorgh's.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based Tanimura understand testers are a bunch of goons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can see his face without seeing the hundreds of illustrations of DS2gays trying to explain how the lava area being on top of the windmill actually makes sense, only for him to come out and say 'yeah, we fricked it up' ...actually btfo by your own hero. tragic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know what you homosexuals are talking about this looks feasible to me

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's mostly the DS3 secondaries that do this. They actually think dark souls is some boss rush rolling simulator instead of an dungeon crawling adventure.
    At least ER secondaries have the decency to respect the ideas DS2 started

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never liked the running past every enemy approach, even on replays. Fighting the smaller enemies and scenarios you're put into is fun and sometimes better than the boss at the end of the level. Plus it gives you more time to use your weapons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good lord, this. I try to convey this all the time. Dark Souls is built on the adventure and journey of an area, figuring out how to efficiently and safely navigate it and deal with the enemies and obstacles that dot it. These areas present their enemies as fun and tough little obstacles that attrition you and force you to weigh the cost benefit balance between engaging for a potential reward or missing that reward to keep you going a little longer. That's not to mention the actual higher level exploration itself to get there and combing an area for where goodies could be, once again attritioning the player. Bosses serve as a cap to the area of which the resources you have remaining are checked to see if they were managed well enough during your journey. That is their role. They are not the be all end all but are instead a role in the functioning of the core balancing act

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mental illness

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >60 vig GOOD
    >20 adp BAD

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ds2 gays are mentally ill.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because if you weren't a zoomer and actually was there when it came out and saw the monumental downgrade and awful direction, you would understand why people dislike it. its worse than dark souls 1 in almost every way other than basic shit like 2 having omni-directional rolling. the graphics are even somehow worse.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It feels like they just threw a bunch of half finished enemies on half finished maps and called it dark souls 2 to try to recover some money.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The two sides of DaS2 discussion:
    >AAAHHH THIS IS THE WORST GAME OF ALL TIME I'M SHITTING MY PANTS IN RAGE I'M SUCH A PISS BABY WITH NOTHING OF SUBSTANCE TO SAY FFUUUUUUUCK
    >Hehe ummm obviously chud you're too low iq to understand how amazing soul memory is and controlling like shit just means the pvp is hardcore you're just too shit at video games to understand how amazing the recycled bosses and padding are and if you care about things like the fricked animations then you aren't a real gamer.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is because when you attempt to talk about the game reasonably, eventually you'll have a criticism. And even if its a small thing, any criticism full on mindbreaks the DR2trannies and the thread goes into full on shitflinging mode. Reasonable discussion with them is impossible, and this is coming from someone who enjoyed his playthrough.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how passive aggressive DaS2 defense can get too. Watching a video only for the guy to drop a "I get why people don't like DaS2, it's a very skill intensive game" is fricking obnoxious.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hate how passive aggressive DaS2 defense can get too. Watching a video only for the guy to drop a "I get why people don't like DaS2, it's a very skill intensive game" is fricking obnoxious.

        If you give the anti-DS2 troony discord an inch they'll take a mile
        You can't admit the game has any flaws because then the trannies will try to use it as "proof" that the whole game is worthless

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You can't admit the game has any flaws
          Why would you admit this? You just admitted that all your moronic arguments and posturing is purely ideological, and not about the game at all. You've just made everything you've said in this thread (and will say here) worthless because you're saying that you don't mean it, you'll say anything to get ideological victory on a fricking video game board. This is probably the most pathetic thing that I've ever read on Ganker

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So how is the discord doing?
            What's new?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nope. No matter how hard you try. You can't escape from the fact that you just admitted that you don't have any real convictions. You can't misdirect from the fact that propaganda and tribalism has melted your brain so bad that you come on video game threads to lie about fricking ds2 to someone 'own' the enemy. You're the most pathetic creature I've ever seen here and I have no idea why you would openly admit to doing this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My conviction is to not let trannies on Ganker tell me that good games are bad
                If I wanted to seriously discuss DS2 I'd go to my actual IRL friends and do so

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sunk cost fallacy is a real thing anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if I wanted a real conversation I'd talk to my irl friends
                Black person. You just admitted that you come to Ganker to lie and type out propaganda for Dark Souls 2 even ten years after the game's original release. Which is the saddest shit that I've ever heard. Nobody believes you have friends. It actually just blows my mind that you admitted to it though. Like I've always suspected that DS2gays do this kinda shit. But I've never seen one openly admit that they pretend the game is flawless to someone own the chuds. Its just hilarious.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >to someone own the chuds
                ESL?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. You're not going to use a error written between my games of Total War to weasel out of the fact that you admitted to creating propaganda for DS2 in a desperate attempt to 'own' some perceived enemy online. That you knowingly pretend that the game is flawless. Nope. You can't just wiggle away from how pathetic that is.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I bet you play Shogun 2
                You seem like the type

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OK. I've probably hammered the point home enough. As fun as it is to bring it up again and again to humiliate you, this is starting to seem like overkill. Just don't be moronic next time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Phone game remaster
                Zero taste confirmed

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Never played it before. Was always more of an Age of Empires guy but I've decided to play through all the Total War games available. They're actually not bad.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          look at the development of the game, anon, it was done by their b-team with reused assets that really hyped up the "YER GUNNA D1E A LOLT D00d!11!!" from the marketing and the intro to the game. The game had only a few remotely positive changes like how they treated backstabs but had shat the bed with very very long roll after attack that basically just turned the game turn based. The enemy layout is so atrocious it REWARDS just running the frick through everything. The shitty "remastered" SotFS edition fricked shit up more with enemies despawning after 12 kills so you couldn't really farm either (which also encouraged entire restarts lmao). Even when you DID get souls you would have absolutely moronic shit like soul memory. The devs didn't respect people's time for a cash-grab, so I shouldn't respect it either. At least the rat king boss was funny. The game was not an improvement from 1.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >enemies despawning after 12 kills so you couldn't really farm either (which also encouraged entire restarts lmao)
            Imagine being mad you can't farm soulgems anymore jej

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    DaS started the trend that almost killed itself and it could be traced back to this game. 2 is irredeemable and makes Morrowind look like a next gen game by comparison.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bro you're getting really mad right now I think you need to calm down 🙂

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone is still mad that they downgraded the graphics from its first trailer.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Your opinion? Heh, that's just like, subjective buddy, you need to preface every point you make with "uhm this is just my opinion" or I'll b***h about it for 8 hours
    >My opinion? Uh acktchully, mine is OBJECTIVE because... it just is, okay???
    >In fact, I'm so dedicated to objective and HIGH BROW critique, I'm gonna tackle the real big fish in the sea....
    >Spends the rest of his life b***hing about marvel and star wars on a podcast full of furries
    I'm actually still amazed this man was able to catapult himself to fame off the sole fact that hbomberguy just happened to be a bit more stupid than he was.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We are almost in a WW3
    >Ganker still argues over which is best Souls game

    Never change Ganker

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Professor Chuddy says: Nothing ever happens. There will be no WW3. Nothing EVER happens.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care for Isreal nor Palestine. They can blow each other up and nothing of value changes or is lost.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I daresay things might improve if they blew eachother up

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in just two more weeks amirite

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the fact you moronic Black folk are still talking about DaS2, more than 10 years after it's release, more than 1 and 3 is a statement in itself

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More than Elden Ring a month before its expansion drops.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not really true but consider this: when Bloodborne just came out, DaS2 was still discussed almost as much as Bloodborne
        nowadays, BB is barely talked about anymore at least here

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DaS2 is talked about since it's a shitty game and shitty games get all the clout for shitposting fuel. BB being an exclusive helps keep it under the radar.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >DaS2 is talked about since it's a shitty game and shitty games get all the clout for shitposting fuel
            curious how that specifically applies only to DaS2 and not stuff like DMC2

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Where's the elden ring thread right now

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're in it

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I accept your concession

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            see

            [...]

            by the way u r a Black person

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              dam dis thread is lit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because BB is a forgettable game and the only thing I remembered doing is getting bored at the easiest and piss poor boss before returning it to play something else

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The toddlers that couldn't hang in Demon's Souls got a wake up call when they realized how shit easy Dark Souls was in comparison to the true sequel, It isn't a nice feeling to find out you are a casual.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >secondaries
    You mean Shit Souls Black folk? Because those are the only ones that like this trash.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't believe these threads can still make me laugh after all this time, there's just something about seeing people sperg the frick out over the most elementary bait that does it for me
    bless your mental illnesses

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is... is that a ... life... gem???
    >AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IM GOING INSANE HELP ME Black personMAN HELP ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MAULER SAVE ME MAULER HELP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHAT MADNESS WHAT INSANITY TRULY GOD HAS FORSAKEN ME SOMEONE HELP ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best Souls 2

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with ds2 haters is how inconsistent their arguments are. I mean half the time they contradict themselves in the same sentence. It’s hard to take any of it seriously when their arguments are so schizophrenic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The problem with ds2 haters is that they're genuinely mentally ill and have been for like a decade now and they're only getting more deranged

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like that in ds2 you can get to level 120 in like 18 hours without grinding. In elden ring I'm running around the map grabbing shit for most of that time.

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