Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?

Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Only 9 of the games in the study
    So why don't they add other games, is their study?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Games that are on imdb top 150 list

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >imdb
        Fucking why? Of all the also bad but infinitely better alternatives

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          because perhaps it's the list that's most helpful to their debunking attempt?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Amazon owns IMDb and probably paid for the article ~~*advertising*~~

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the movie database?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's where they found playstation games.

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      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Did it take into account that many of those are rereleases and expansions?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How many of those games use character creators?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what is imdb? Never heard of that.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    horizon is boring and nu-tomb raider took out most of the stuff that made it fun from the games before it,though it's at least marginally better than uncharted

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was the pool of games. Because if you're looking at shit like fallout, skyrim, command and conquer and crap with no defined gendered protag of course you're going to skew numbers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because if you're looking at shit like fallout, skyrim, command and conquer and crap with no defined gendered protag of course you're going to skew numbers.

      That affects less than you think because even in those games almost everyone plays men.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that is false

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they specified standalone for a reason

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but it's saying 6% of all the games not 6% of single single set protag games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. You nailed it. They could take a look at the top rated games and disregard all the ones that let you choose to play what you like, and imply there is such an unfairly low supply of female protagonists.

      When in fact it might work out closer to:
      >no protagonist character or no stated gender like in games like begarden gnomeeled: 12%
      >multiple characters no set protagonist like in fighting games: 12%
      >multiple main characters like in octopath traveler: 1%
      >create a character, can be any race and gender: 32%
      >male protagonist: 36%
      >female protagonist: 6%
      >protagonist has no gender like a robot or alien species: 1%
      This means, hypothetically, that 51% of games would allow you to play as a female character and if someone is fine with a mystery character with no gender or as a robot then this raises to 64% (a hypothetical number) of games.

      Nevermind that there are games that highly focus on appealing to women that are unpopular so they're not even being counted. Trying to use cheap and stupid marketing tricks to slap gender appeal on a game won't carry a bad game.

      Women are not their target demographic.
      Women overwhelmingly play Mobile games, or Nintendo Animal Crossing. That's it.

      This is another key component. Men and women are allowed to be different, they're people, they can make choices and shouldn't be forced. We don't demand that nursing change to make it 50% men, that romance novels change to make the audience 50% male. We don't force women to not like the games they like to make them the same as what men like. We don't force games that appeal to women to appeal to men.

      Gaming companies often wrongly think they can just make a small, but dumb, change and suddenly get just as many women players as men. Plenty of the top selling and most popular games really appeal to men and didn't need women to make them popular. There are also top selling and popular games like Begarden gnomeeled that appeal to women and didn't need a huge amount of men. We don't need to change Begarden gnomeeled to make it more "manly". Doing so in a poor way could make everyone like the game less.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Gaming companies often wrongly think they can just make a small, but dumb, change and suddenly get just as many women players as men
        Some do. But in my experience there are two main problems, two different but equally bad reasons why game devs decide on a female protagonist.

        1. (AAA variant) This is done either to pander to journalists or as a consequence of SJW convergence at a company made up of too many women and diversity hires who wind up in charge of decisions. Their goal isn't pandering to women, it's pandering to each other and validating their own world views. (Example: Battlefield Vagina)

        2. (Indie variant) This comes from the hipster mentality and a desire for originality and novelty. The idea here is that "male protagonists are boring, every game has a white male protag," so going with a female protagonist will make it fresh and interesting. This is of course stupid because gender doesn't make a character interesting in fact trying to force a female into a male-archetype story is going to backfire terribly unless you're a highly competent writer who really knows what he's doing.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >in fact trying to force a female into a male-archetype story is going to backfire terribly unless you're a highly competent writer who really knows what he's doing.
          Now we're speaking in pure hypothetical: if the writer is a retard who manages to shove feminist crap in the game yes it's bad.
          But if you were to gender swap Spyro or Halo I don't see how much of the story would be ruined. Sure there's people that can say "women can't be strong/quick" but besides that I don't see how the story would suffer.
          I forgot the plots in both those games so if it's reliant on a male lead my apologies.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Gender-swapped Halo would be an abomination if you don't agree something is wrong with you.
            Spyro is almost gender-neutral so that would be fine

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Gender-swapped Halo would be an abomination if you don't agree something is wrong with you.
              It's been years since I played Halo so I need a reminder why it can't work

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a fucking military sci-fi FPS. Female MC in those circumstamces is retarded.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Men have been fine with sexy action women for decades in their fiction. Modern devs especially in California have just simply forgotten who their main target demographic is. A sexy woman in bikini chopping monsters to pieces with a sword is cool and fun. A Strong Woman dressed like Michelin Man logo taking time to constantly lecture how She Needs No Man and how White Men are Problematic is not something that appeals to your main customerbase at all. It doesn't even appeal to women themselves.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I imagine most women would rather play as Red Sonja or Xena Warrior Princess over the average Western vidya slagbeast. They're female power fantasies as much as they're male sexual fantasies.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Depends, Red Sonja isn't very popular among women but characters like Major Kusanagi are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Its a stupid claim anyway. They could add DOOM guy into Farmville and I still wouldn't play that game, just not a genre for me.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women are not their target demographic.
    Women overwhelmingly play Mobile games, or Nintendo Animal Crossing. That's it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop contradicting their gnomish feminist pilpul

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't believe it because why would women say this
          Why wouldn't they? If they prefer Sudoku over Sekiro, pretending otherwise is stupid. It's a hobby that should entertain them after all.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Soduko
          Is that a typo of sudoku?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          honestly a pretty good example of how that group operates. it's never about the group they claim to champion, those are always just a shield they use to deflect criticism of their actions towards someone else
          >wow, you take offense with what I am doing? I am only doing this in the best interest of this other group. you aren't a bigot to them, are you?
          then the group they claim to champion does a poll showing what they actually want and there'll immediately be a cancel-mob to get it deleted because it would undermine the narrative that was built up because it shows the group doesn't actually want what the people who claim to champion them claim the group wants.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Taking down a post sharing a study because its findings did not match the preferred narrative of the group it was talking about
          Was nobody bothered by this?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            people have just grown indifferent towards it I think, because that shit happens so frequently.
            someone will make a point, constructing it completely around one single justification. and then when you prove to them that the justification is wrong you'll just get
            >ugh, this wasn't the point, if you had listened you would have understood it
            public discussion has completely degenerated into making unproven claims and then attacking the social standing/intelligence of anyone who dares to disagree

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nah cause that's so normal these days

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why? It's the standard procedure for them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because, they are journalists, doing a study for an industry. Their ideology doesn't reflect reality where men and women like the exact same things. So it's their choice to publish wrong data and fuck over their own marketing.

            Any business that tries to lie to itself is going to crumble on it's own. As wise men once said, "never prevent your enemy from making a mistake".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >women prefer games they can play at their connivence
          >oy vey shut it down
          Why aren’t girls allowed to like things?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >said the cis white male
          ironic

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            garden gnomes aren't white and xhe is definitely not "cis"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If anyone ever wonders why the average libtard is mentally ill, it's because their entire reality is made up bullshit, as can be seen here.

          >perpetuating a harmful stereotype.
          oh, you mean like, saying the fuckin truth? lmao. God curses you with depression and anxiety when your worldview is built on a lie.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's gotten really fucking bad.
            I know people who make educational materials and got in trouble for saying "I is for Igloo." Something about cultural stereotyping I don't know.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The 'rules' of modern day society are meant to be malleable and obfuscated. Every conversation in the work place is a potential mine field that can lose you your job. IMO, this is by design. It works exceptionally well on mid-wits, because they're typically more concerned with "not offending" people, than they are with being sincere.

              This stuff only works as well as other people tolerate it working; if someone calls you a homophobe and you call them a fag enabler, it kinda gets the point across that cries of heresy don't bother you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why would a woman say this
          It is kinda strange that a women would present an easily observable truth reinforced by statistics.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't believe a woman wrote this list because it is not full of lies

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a woman and this shit makes me seethe.
          Blah blah blah harmful stereotype blah blah. The only thing HARMFUL here is trying to force women to be like men and have male interests and acting like femininity is bad. Women don't HAVE to enjoy some weird niché shooter. There is nothing wrong with liking animal crossing and candy crush and sudoku or whatever.

          The only people who say this shit are people who hate femininity. They are the true sexists. And I hate them for it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post tits you hag

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Post balls first.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you must really be a woman if you thought this was a good comeback

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well? Where's the picture?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The only people who say this shit are people who hate femininity.

            Yeah, they're called trannies. They hate the fact that men and women have different interests because they almost all have typically male interests and it kind of gives the game away to acknowledge that.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Figures.
              Always baffled me how they claim to have a "female brain" but then all their interests are male.
              I was actually over at my aunt's and took a look around my chud mtf cousin's room out of curiosity. Star Trek, anime, D&D. Not one traditionally feminine interest. You can't make this shit up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Matrix is one of the most male-oriented movies ever made.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Bejitabros are trannies.
            You can't make this shit up.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Goku_656
              >Ratkufags are OBSESSED

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This shit always fucking scares me.
          Facts and statistics are literally racist apparently. That fucks with my head.
          The whole point of posting bad statistics is so people with power have the data to make changes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WOOOOAAAAHHHHH
        COOL IT WITH THE ANTISEMITISM

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You know this is CIA funded website right.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You get paid too, right? What I find funniest is the civilian janitors who work here for free. And they aren't even cleared!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mmos in the top ten
      I didn't think that many woman were into mmos

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone I know that plays mobile gacha "mmos" are female.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a lot of people just use mmos as chat rooms

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        back when I used to play WoW a good third of our guild was female. But basically always the wives and girlfriends of the guys also playing in the guilds.
        I think they play MMOs as some shared experience, and not because of the MMO itself. If their friends and partners didn't play it, neither would they.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Women love any games with social aspects.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mmos used to involve socializing
        women were a minority but a notorious one given their ability to totally fuck up and ruin guilds run by IRL nerds who don't understand how to handle female social striving behavior.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Women
        >not playing MMOs
        >the game in which you can literally just be carried through the content and other players can just dump power (items, money) onto your character
        You didn't think girls played the game in which you sit in discord and get a bunch of horny losers to play the game for you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        about 30%~ of people who play FFXIV in Japan are women, and I mean women, not American "women"

        They usually play catboys or lalafells

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is it with the catboys?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Cats are cute

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you never had a 40 year old mom guild leader?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They add men playing as women to get free shit as female players.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Final Fantasy 14

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I can't believe that out of those 5 girlfriends I got in MMO's one of them was actually a girl. All those times I jerked off to the thought of a guy lying to me and using me and it was a woman doing that...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        MMOs aren't real games, they're safe spaces for retards and degenerates to socialize with one another

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Since I've started raiding in FF14 and actually joining vcs I'd say about a 3rd tend to be actual women. Funnily enough I've only run into one trans person ever and they were completely insufferable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who do you think play all the male toons?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your average feminist defender would say something like:
      >T-the distribution is only like that precisely BECAUSE there are not enough fem protag games UwU

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MMO's
      >top 6
      Wait, so if I played MMO's I could have a gf by now? FUCK

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The distribution is lightly chuded so genres that attract LGBT are boosted in the ranking in addition to genres that attract women. If you play the FF MMO you'll encounter many "women"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i've encounter more trannies in wow than i ever have in xiv and i've played xiv a lot longer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Never played WoW but I've encountered way too many trannies in XIV since Stormblood. 1.0 to Heavensward? None. Stormblood comes around? Feels like every other FC application was some chud.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        a lot of women who play mmo's are crazy as shit,most of them are the type who were highly unpopular and just play them because they known lonely men willy fawn over them which in turn causes them to always cause a fuck ton of drama eventually

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not worth

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, almost any popular online multiplayer game has attention whores left and right.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've played MMOs off an on since 2003. The amount of casual hookups/nudes/cam stuff I've gotten from them is obscene. Never from WoW, but anime ones like Ragnarok Online/FFXI/FFXIV always had thirsty women. You don't usually want to date them though, or do sexual things with someone in your own guild. Too much risk for drama especially if they catch feelings.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        A friend of mine is getting married to a girl he met in World Of Warcraft, they've met when they started college around the same time, right now been together for over 5 years now and been engaged for a few years. Her parents are crazy religious, mostly the mom but they have to pretend they met in some christian camp thing

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        For what it's worth, MMOs are pretty social games so you're likely going to be talking to people frequently.
        my first e-gf was in ragnarok online

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And people wonder why the direct had six fucking farm sims.
      Animal Crossing left a huge hole and now every publishers wants a piece of that 20 million potential copies cake.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The problem is that women don't play on consoles. Just mobile and Facebook which they include in these studies.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The RTS number gave the “female” part away. This chart 100% includes chuds and gays

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        fuck discord chud

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon get your eyes checked, you're so mad about women you're imagining words. There is no RTS on that chart.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This picture is sincerely wholesome and endearing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I bet a lot of analytic data these days is skewed because they include trannies like they are real women.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >posts pics of garden gnomes
        >"muh chud meme!"

        can't tell if you're the same garden gnome that spam forces the "chud" thing or some badly made bot at this point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Games that have no protagonist at all like strategy games: have never been played by a born woman

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's an "atmospheric exploration"? Metroidvania?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I got the feeling it meant walking simulators.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I genuinely believe that video games are only going to become more mainstream over time, and eventually they'll lose the last of the stigma that they have and will be viewed in the same vein as movies are today. And I think that as this happens more women will play games until it'll probably be nearly 50/50. The thing is that, much like anything else in life, men and women will tend to like different things, as this chart clearly shows. So there's stuff like the Marvel movies that attracted roughly equal gender demographic, and then there are action moves that mostly men are into and romance movies that mostly women are into. When you look at popular AAA games today they're largely action/adventure titles. They do have an emphasis on story and characters, but they also have an emphasis on shooting people, blowing them up or cutting them to pieces with a giant sword. They're still made mostly for men because it's mostly men spending money on these kinds of big budget, full price games instead of mobile games.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Marvel movies that attracted roughly equal gender demographic, and then there are action moves that mostly men
        What do you mean?
        Marvel movies are just dumb action movies, why would girls like them besides the fact that it's been memed on?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they'll lose the last of the stigma that they have and will be viewed in the same vein as movies are today
        Yeah, when they absolutely suck out every drop of freedom japanese developers have and streamline everything into wholesome western crap.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Women play more JRPGs than WRPGs
      B-But I was told JRPGs are obejctifying, problematic and mysogynistic?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would assume it's because JRPGs are more colorful. WRPGs are about gritty guys living in a shithole who have to defeat ugly monstrosities, JRPGs are pretty guys in a colorful world riding exotic animals and going on all kind of weird adventures.
        Or at least that will be the generalized perception.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dunno my sister is pretty much obsessed with Bioware games and they're pretty much the only videogames she plays besides The Sims.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because the women complaining about them are masculine nerds and feel angry that they aren't able to be cute themselves while regular women who don't have that complex are fine or even happy playing as cute and fashionable chicks as can be seen by the popularity of cosplayers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      women "playing" games is launching it for 2 minutes a day inbetween sucking dicks

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd be willing to bet there hasn't been a single, not ONE single woman who has ever played a game like Stellaris or HOI or something like that for longer than a dozen hours or so max

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        my sister has played tetris for a couple hundred hours, so I wouldn't be surprised if she played stellaris, too. I will have to ask her next time we talk.
        still, she'd be one of the very few exceptions

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I also know a surprising number of girls who are autistically into tetris as well (and can play it at retarded speeds), I doubt they've ever touched something like Stellaris though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I realized I can just check her steam profile
            the only game she even owns that goes into that direction is civ6 and she only played it for 5 hours, so I guess you were correct

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I also know a surprising number of girls who are autistically into tetris as well (and can play it at retarded speeds), I doubt they've ever touched something like Stellaris though

          kek shit anons, I also know a few girls who are weirdly into Tetris and like no other video games, what's that about?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I honestly have no idea.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              [...]
              kek shit anons, I also know a few girls who are weirdly into Tetris and like no other video games, what's that about?

              AS a man whose lost his job due to playing so much Tetris it's just a simple game.
              >no music
              >play a quick 1/2 minute match
              >it's an interesting puzzle
              I feel the same way about nonograms and other puzzle games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You know, there's an entire subgenre of posts made by women on sites like tumblr many years ago squeeing about character relationships and all that.
      But I don't think I've ever seen women every make a video or post talking about how cool x concept, attack, object, etc is in a videogame that isn't about wanting to ship two characters together.
      But I probably didn't look hard enough

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those tumblr fujos don't play the game, they just repost gay ship fanarts of the characters from their internet friends who did play the games

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah it's kind of like the female equivalent of my overwatch folder

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactamundo

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not surprised to hear that honestly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fchOeOB.png

      Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?

      Single player games all appeal to some type of power fantasy of some sort and male power fantasies are different from female ones. Guys like being the hero protag/"The One" savior archetype or military stuff. Chicks like games that appeal to their power fantasies of social control, which is why they love shit like The Sims. Games like HZD and Tomb Raider still have a mostly male audience because it appeals to what we like more.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Which console should I buy to get my gf to play videogames with me?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        DS or 3DS for Tetris DS, loser goes down on the winner.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my wife plays three mobile games that are all match 3s where you can also decorate houses.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually surprised this many play W/J/RPGs, even Action RPGs. And holy shit, Sandbox AND Turn-Based Strategy. Damn. Even Grand Strategy at 7%.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tomboys exist, and it happens in nerd fields too not just sports. In the boomer and pre-boomer years, this kind of woman was just odd and accepted she was odd and most men showed respect due to the legit shared interest. True (rare) nerd women are ignored by propagandists.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats not surprising metric at all. Every rule has its exception and just like theres gay men who enjoy crossdressing and working on hair salons, theres tomboy women who like the male-centric stuff.

        Apparently its not tied to culture or society either, tomboys are actually made in the womb, when a female fetus gets exposed to a higher dose of male hormones than usual in the womb. So some girls are born tomboys, and some guys are born as massive gays. Every family has at least one fag uncle and weirdo female cousin who fixes cars for living.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sci-fi confirmed to be more manly than fantasy gayry.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Modern fantasy, yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually interesting how women fucking hate sci-fi. I think it's because sci-fi is generally about frontiers and breaking into new spaces, whether that's outer space or the future. Women's favourite fantasy franchise is Harry Potter, because it's set in a school, which is this highly controlled and civilised social space.
        What this says to me is that deep down, men want to get outside of civilisation, while woman want to box themselves as deeply into civilisation as possible.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I think its more to do with the fact that it emphasizes technical and scientific concepts at the expense of character and emotions, because adventuring into the wilderness is a big part of fantasy as well, women generally just arne't that interested in STEM even high IQ woman often don't like going into STEM fields or have much interest in technical subjects there is also a heavy influence of modern military culture in lots of scifi which is basically kryptonite for your average woman basically scifi just completely lacks the romanticism and emotional characterization that is common in fantasy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only one which surprised me is FPS for how popular a genre it is the fact that its 93% male dominated is fucking crazy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are they counting just females, or are they counting females and """"females""""?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you're going to post this, can you cite the source of the data for the graph and what year its from? Otherwise all the women who don't want to hear it will simply say you made it up or otherwise discount it if there's one study somewhere else that shows that there are some percentage of shooter players that is higher than what you just posted, or claim that "oh thats back then, now that we sarkeesianed the industry there are many more girls SEE SUCCESS!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Im reminded of that poll where women voted on their favorite games.....only for the list of winners to be full of mobileshit like candy crush and animal crossing
      And women bitched because it made them look bad kek. Anyone have a screencap?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You forgot the best part, the list was actually made by a woman, which the Twitter chud mob refused to believe.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >which at this point I dont believe because why would of women say this
          I'd love women if I didnt hate them so much

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/fchOeOB.png

      Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?

      Who cares, as long as the game is good.
      I've never seen anyone lose interest in playing a game because the MC was a woman

      Stuff doesn't have to pander

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've never seen anyone lose interest in playing a game because the MC was a woman
        I quit Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark because the first scene featured a female MC acting like an obnoxious cunt.
        I'm not going to play Arcadian Atlas (upcoming Final Fantasy Tactics inspired tactical RPG) because its story is clearly influenced by western feminist garbage and features female main characters.

        Those are games I'd have definitely played otherwise.

        Meanwhile shit like The Last Of Us... maybe I wouldn't have played it anyway that's not really my type of game, but the butt-ugly protagonist certainly doesn't add any appeal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >because its story is clearly influenced by western feminist garbage and features female main characters.
          I can smell your fedora-tipping fat ass through the screen

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      women are children
      hello from Ganker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's all so tiresome

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Atmospheric Exploration
      >41%
      Silent Hill bros..

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really want to know what they quantify as survival roguelike.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is "survival roguelike" dead by daylight?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why yes I only play shooters, racing, and sports games. How did you know?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vidya is and has always been a male hobby. it's as simple as that. an escapist medium for all the bullshit the world has to offer, women near the top of course.
      sex really doesn't sell as much as Ganker would like you to think.

      >nothing but passive games
      kek
      >jarpigs that high
      KEK

      sex doesnt sell

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just give me a character creator and let me make my own waifu instead of giving me a boring remade one written by lesbian feminists and I'll play your game.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play only as a female protagonist if i can make her pretty with big boobs(like saints row 3). If they force people to play as these ugly women like aloy or nu lara, people would avoid the games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >these ugly women like aloy
      Let me guess, you're one of those retards that think the fat aloy photoshop being spammed by shazamposters is what she actually looks like.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, I just have standards and some ugly mutt doesn't fit them. If I wanted to look at that I'd go to my local fastfood joint. Why does what I see at a shitty food joint have to be in video games? It's ugly here and it's ugly there.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many of those are original IPs?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I actually always play (or create) a female if I have the choice. I like playing as women. If you have the choice and chose to play a guy. You're literally either a gay or a self insert cuck.
    How can you not enjoy looking at a women all the time while playing <insert your fav game here>.

    The problem is that 99% modern (western) games force a manface disgusting fat slob to play as. You don't even have a choice. And that "female" protag is an empowered "girl" who don't need no man and makes "badass" quips. See new she-hulk for reference.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    F*males are gross, we need more femboy and twink representation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gayry and homosexualness

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      misogyny should include femboys

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      femboys cause more drama than the average woman

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's really just a normal guy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So wanting to fuck him means that I'm actually a gay and not just a prison gay coomer?
        oh no

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.
          t. prison gay coomer that likes traps

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just a pretty boy, not a femboy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >pretty young looking boy, not intending to look feminine
      >HE'S A FEMBOY GUYS

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BUILT for old hags

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      haha

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want a game where you can play as a magical boy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As for me, it's magical girl (male)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there is virtually no difference between a femboy and a chud

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're antithetical to each other. Femboys represent a logical masculine mind coupled with a beautiful feminine body whereas trannies represent a histrionic feminine mind paired with an ugly masculine body.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >logical masculine mind
          >crossdresses and acts like a cute girl
          yep, logical masculine mind, alright.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Genueinly believing you're a female is a mental illness.

        Femboys know they're men but still do their best to be kawaii as fuck.

        Having sex with girls is gay a suck.

        Semper boipucci!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To add to that, I haven't seen a femboy that doesn't at least try to pass
          Trannies on the other hand, they barely put any effort

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are both for gays.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfathomably based and a fellow King of culture.

      Men are the best at everything:

      >Interior decorators
      >Doctors
      >Engineers
      >Poets
      >Hair stylists
      >Authors
      >Twinks
      >Musicians

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Interior decorators
        Prove it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Prove what?

          Gay men dominate the interior decorating scene.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it wasn’t for coomers that number would be even lower

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because im not gay

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If a game has a sex choice they don't count it as female because it's convenient to the narrative.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Horizon's problem isn't that it's main protagonist is a woman, Horizon's problem is that it isn't fucking interesting. I own it on PS4 it's absurdly stale and boring. There is never a point in it where i feel like i am having fun, it's just going through the motions.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I loved the Tomb Raider games.
    There's just no games these days with female lead characters that I'm interested in.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not my problem

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?
    But I do? Just not the ugly goblinas woke devs push out lately. Sorry, but you gotta be this pretty for me to be interested in playing with you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking this, also based, Legend is my favorite Lara design though, that midriff = I cum buckets

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Source:free version of solitaire

    what did they mean by this?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >popular
    Is this the cope now? They started shoehorning women and joggers into shit literally nobody wanted, but surprise! those games flop. So now the game must first be popular, then include a woman protag for it to get those sweet EGS points.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's WAY too high, can you even name 9 female lead games from the past 5 years?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      out of 150 games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Still way too high

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i cant name 9 male lead games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mario
        Zelda
        Half-Life
        Call of Duty
        FIFA
        Team Fortress 2
        Minecraft
        Grand Theft Auto
        Real Life

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          thats wrong though

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All of those games have male protags
            Minecraft = Steve
            Call of Duty = Shootingman
            FIFA = Soccerman

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's Ryza and... uh.. do characters like Lumine count? Probably not, given that you can pick either a guy or a girl depending on what you prefer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I had to look up who the fuck Lumine was

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lara Croft (the OG, not the 2013 version) and Samus are good female protagonists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      samus might as well be male because she doesnt have a speaking role and wears a suit that is agendered
      just 1 line in dread.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Regardless I see her as female so it counts.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >western woke moron trash

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish vidya only had hunk male characters.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > they think men hate playing as girls

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like female main characters just fine - when they are main characters who simply happen to be female.
    I don't like them when being a woman is their sole defining trait and everything in the story revolves around how awesome it is that they are a woman. That kind of writing is always shit, regardless of what that singular trait is.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We really just need a few more good games with female protagonists. I think most players would actually be fine with playing as a woman if the game was good. Right now it feels like games are using female protagonists as a part of a marketing strategy based on political posturing, when they know the game isn't fun enough to sell entirely on its own merit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the game isnt fun exactly because it has a female protag
      that means the dev team is woke and woke people are low iq hence they cant make good games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The game needs to be good and the girl needs to be good. Too many female characters are just an SJW diversity hire's self insert and it's obvious. Nobody likes these characters.

      If they want to make a good girl character, they need to just start designing guys, design the entire plot and game around this guy, and then when development is almost finished, switch the design to female and add some tits. GUYS WITH TITS are how you write a female character that most people will like. When devs and writers try to make a "real" and "believable" female character nowadays they just make her an irredeemable, disrespectful, spiteful little cunt. Guys with tits circumvents this route because nobody likes those qualities in a male.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If they want to make a good girl character, they need to just start designing guys, design the entire plot and game around this guy, and then when development is almost finished, switch the design to female and add some tits.
        No, this is specifically what they do mostly do and it doesn't work at all. In fact that's why it doesn't work. A dude with tits comes off like an abomination to any normal-brained male.

        The fact is most games with male-archetype stories do NOT benefit from a female protagonist. If you did really want to write a story about a female protagonist, you follow through and make the story actually about a character that would have relevant female traits.

        Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark is a good example of what I'm talking about. That's a story written 90% like it's for a fairly generic male character (and tactics games are 90% male audience). But then in some lame effort to be original, the gender is swapped. So now male companion is an embarrassing simp instead of a loyal bro. There's an awkward mentor relationship with a character written like an actual girl (and would have worked fine with a male protag). Then you have villains engage in obnoxious misogyny to make them seem extra bad.

        Meanwhile Agrias is a female warrior that isn't just a male with tits. She's princess' guard. (Obviously a princess would have female bodyguards if possible)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >this is specifically what they do mostly
          No, it isn't.

          Didn't read the rest of your post and probably won't. Don't bother replying or responding unless you care so much that other people read it, as I'm leaving for work soon and am closing this thread.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >No, it isn't.
            I actually gave examples and you gave none.
            >Didn't read the rest of your post and probably won't.
            I didn't realize you were a dick-sucking gay. You actually had a good point and I made an honest disagreement on a part of it. But by all means quit the field like a moron.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Your example is the fucking opposite of what he said. Whole swathes of elements in the story changed to adjust for the female protagonist instead of just keeping the story as if the protagonist was male.
              Are you fucking dense?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, only the little bits required by the gender change, which are ALWAYS going to be required to some extent.

                The real point is to stop fussing over a fake need for female protagonists. If a game is truly gender neutral it probably already has a creator where you can chose gender.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah someone should really point out how fewer people play female characters because there are no longer female characters but "type 2"s.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based Agrias poster. She could be feminine without quitting being tough, that scene where Mustadio gets her some makeup alone blows every single "FEMALE POWER" moment of modern videogames out of the water.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And I should clarify, if you just want to make a game full of coombait characters where there is no real story or the story is saturday morning cartoon goofiness with stock anime personalities, that's a different question.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is true. This poster understands that women have no redeemable qualities and that the reason why modern female characters end up the way they do is because they're written to be children occupying a grown man's role.

        >If they want to make a good girl character, they need to just start designing guys, design the entire plot and game around this guy, and then when development is almost finished, switch the design to female and add some tits.
        No, this is specifically what they do mostly do and it doesn't work at all. In fact that's why it doesn't work. A dude with tits comes off like an abomination to any normal-brained male.

        The fact is most games with male-archetype stories do NOT benefit from a female protagonist. If you did really want to write a story about a female protagonist, you follow through and make the story actually about a character that would have relevant female traits.

        Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark is a good example of what I'm talking about. That's a story written 90% like it's for a fairly generic male character (and tactics games are 90% male audience). But then in some lame effort to be original, the gender is swapped. So now male companion is an embarrassing simp instead of a loyal bro. There's an awkward mentor relationship with a character written like an actual girl (and would have worked fine with a male protag). Then you have villains engage in obnoxious misogyny to make them seem extra bad.

        Meanwhile Agrias is a female warrior that isn't just a male with tits. She's princess' guard. (Obviously a princess would have female bodyguards if possible)

        This is false. This anon does not understand that women have no redeemable qualities and that the reason why why modern female characters end up the way they do is because they're written to be children occupying a grown man's role.

        There are two sexes: male and female. There are two genders: child and adult. All real females are children, and if you aren't entertaining the fantasy that females can be adults you shouldn't have them in the story at all.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It really is funny how western SJW feminists pretty much have the same mentality as bitter incels.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's almost like the chances of a female protagonist game being shit are astronomical. Compare that to the number of people who play female characters if given the choice in games with multiple or character creators.

    In other words, it's because Female protag games are designed for women. 99.999% of women who even play video games are only interested in lowest common denominator games. Ergo your female protag game is gonna be shit. Hell you're lucky if your female protag does not end up shit as well, like Horizon.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Right now it sure feels like 70% of the games with a defined main character feature a femoid. Callisto Protocol is the one game I can think of where it doesn’t.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Video games (not candy crush) have a majority male audience (i wipe my ass on the "stats" about 46.85% of gaymers being female), therefore most MC are male... or scantly clad women.
    The exact same fucking reason, Elle and Cosmo focus in women and have women (or flamboyant gays) on their covers, because their audience is female.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is a very misleading headline. For one thing "popular games" is based on highest IMDb rating, which is nonsense. I wouldn't say The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time is a very popular game in 2022 but according to this method it's in the top 10. Surely popular means playercount but then you run up against the fact that Clash of Clans, Candy Crush, and Paladins Of Ding QuongZhouhuong Chong don't have 'protagonists'. In fact the headline seems to imply that 94% of games are dude games which isn't what the study said, given the existence of character creators. And finally it seems the article doesn't link to the study or to the IMDb page. I forgot how bad games journalism really is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >journalists are complete snakes who will twist anything to suit their narrative

      wow!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oy vey goyim, journalists are trusted and wise

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its highest reviewed games fucking retard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is a very misleading headline
      of course, it's the worst kind of headline. It's totally misleading, twisted and click-baity af, and feeds from negative attention.
      >LOOK HOW TERRIBLE GENDER MISREPRESENTATION IS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The headline means that female led games dont break into top lists because they are bad
        So devs should not put female protags

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    luv recettear
    luv estelle
    luv ryza
    ate western "stronk female" protagonists
    simple as

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    its made for women, isnt it?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do play and love them
    But this thing isn't female

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vecause I've never come across a tough bad ass female in my life not even once, these games are problematic female power fantasies

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The badass female trope is a mommy simulator made by and for guys raised by a single mom. It’s honestly kind of embarrassing. You’re right, women don’t act like this, there is a reason why the girlboss archetype is mocked, it is because it is ridiculous.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't mind that it's not realistic if they gave me a tough bad ass female protagonist.
      The problem is that everyone writing those games is either a woman, a chud or some söygolem, so they don't actually know how to write those traits because none of them has any of them. So you always end up with a poorly written caricature who is really just a cantankerous cunt, not winning because she is the superior fighter/strategist but because she is a woman and the writer said so.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to be fair I can't exactly say I've ever met a tough bad ass male like Max Payne or Kratos (pre-onions) in real life either lol

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because if the protagonist is a girl, it's a game for girls.
    I don't want to play that, I have no interest in it. If women don't buy enough of their games for the dev to break even, it just shows women don't play video games and aren't prepared to back up the claim that they do with money.

    Not.
    My.
    Problem.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >make games for trannies
    >only trannies play them
    what a surprise

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >make degenerates and deviants high status class by the holy power of fake victimhood
      >people want a shortcut into automatic high status by claiming to be deviants and degenerates

      gee, i mean, who could foresee such a thing would happen..

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>who could foresee such a thing would happen..
        >society is now full of people acting like degenerates or the mentally ill, so you have a good smoke-screen for your own actions
        the chances that they did foresee it and this was the intended effect are not zero.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Play JRPG
    >half the time the protagonist is a girl, not even counting the games where said girl is heavily sexualized
    >Play dating sim
    >TONS of games where the protagonist is a girl
    >Play Japanese action game
    >women have been main characters in these for 30+ years

    Sounds like a western normie fag problem. If these chuds quit screeching about how "problematic" Japan is, maybe they'd find games that fit their criteria. That's not what they really want, though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >If these chuds quit screeching about how "problematic" Japan is, maybe they'd find games that fit their criteria.
      They would, but they won't because that's not what it is about. They don't screech about Westen video games not having enough female protags because they want female protags - if that were the case, they'd just play all those Japanese games where female protags are common.
      They screech about it because they want to ruin those games for frat boys & co, and they think putting a woman into the lead role will achieve that.
      They are just spiteful assholes. They do not ask for those things for their own enjoyment, they ask for those things because they want to take someone else's entertainment away.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Plus they are legit chuds. They want masculine female characters in gritty masculine games because they themselves are masculine landwhales. Put in a traditionally feminine character as the lead and they'll be raging over it all the same because they'll still be pissed over "traditional gender roles" while completely ignoring of course that the JRPGs they lambast often have MALE characters breaking gender roles and being a lot more feminine than gritty pewpew games as well. They're only interested in pushing masculine women.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Play JRPG
      >half the time the protagonist is a girl, not even counting the games where said girl is heavily sexualized
      LMAO, let me guess, its J""""""RPG"""""""""s, isnt it?

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In HZD, i found Aloy to be annoying, shes always talking down to people in her tone, and it's mainly to 'idiot' men to, who she of course explains everything. Why can't they just write a decent female character instead of wanting us to accept their shite?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >because she is a woman and the writer said so
    The best example for it are those atrociously written woke comics.
    The defeated villain sits there and explains his motivation, and then the female super hero just goes
    >Shut up, Chud!
    and socks the handcuffed villain who can't even defend himself anymore in the face.
    The writers don't even try to make you think the protagonist was in the right by picking apart the villain's justification, they just assume you'll side with the protagonist by virtue of it being a female protagonist and will cheer for random violence against a defeated enemy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wouldn't mind that it's not realistic if they gave me a tough bad ass female protagonist.
      The problem is that everyone writing those games is either a woman, a chud or some söygolem, so they don't actually know how to write those traits because none of them has any of them. So you always end up with a poorly written caricature who is really just a cantankerous cunt, not winning because she is the superior fighter/strategist but because she is a woman and the writer said so.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because woman dont want to play as ugly females, and neither does man
    imagine thinking that a post-wall freak would make a woman play your game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fun game, don't give a shit if the protag is hot or not. If you do, that probably speaks to your crippling online loneliness than anything else.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not my responsibility to ensure there are female protagonists in video games, nor is it my responsibility to purchase games featuring them. If women want more female protagonists, it's on women to (a) create more female-led games and (b) purchase more female-led games. But either (a) women are not doing either or (b) there just aren't enough female gamers to make any kind of appreciable difference.

    It's just like Bill Burr said recently about the WNBA. If women want the WNBA to successful, women need to watch it, but they don't, thus the WNBA is bleeding money and the NBA has to subsidize it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are plenty of women playing games, and they sink quite a lot of money into it.
      it's just that women do not play the games video game journalists would like them to play. all that money goes into candy crush, pokemon, sim city, animal crossing and so on and so forth, and not into battlefield, gears of war & co.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Game journos don't actually care what games women play. It's just bait.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women aren't attracted to female MCs like how men are attracted to male MCs. Also the female MC needs to be sexy or cute to get man to buy the game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the female MC needs to be sexy or cute to get man to buy the game
      This is also the case for most normal women. Contrary to what feminists/chuds/gender critical "theorists" posit, the typical woman wants her avatar to be cute, sexy, or aesthetically pleasing in any case. My favorite anecdotal example is the Atelier series: I've had several girlfriends - American and Japanese, all normies - who weren't gamers but loved these games not in spite of, but because of the kawaii uguu nature of the protagonist (and the light dating sim elements). In my experience women gravitate toward the hot chicks in fighting games, too. It's really only the non-binary hamplanets who hate being reminded of their inferiority to a literal drawing.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is also the case for most normal women. Contrary to what feminists/chuds/gender critical "theorists" posit, the typical woman wants her avatar to be cute, sexy, or aesthetically pleasing in any case.
        This. Just look at all those drawn avatars they have which are supposed to represent them. Even when they are not hilariously inaccurate, they are still a heavily stylized version of themselves that purged as many of their unfavorable traits as possible.
        They might be ugly, but that's just because the art style itself is ugly. Within that art style they are still portrayed as a highly idealized version of themselves.
        No woman looks in the mirror and thinks "damn, I'm happy I look hideous". And they don't want their player characters to look ugly, either.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this has nothing to do with sexism and everything to do with the biological differences in male and female brains.

    all the top female games of the last 20+ years either DONT HAVE PROTAGONISTS AT ALL, have a silent/unseen/custom protagonist(you), or are about a whole group/team of characters and their inter-personal relations. women typically dont enjoy games where they are pigeon holed into playing one character through a static adventure story. thats a male fantasy.

    women want a doll house, aka the sims.
    women want dolls to dress up, aka custom character creation systems ala the sims, mmorpgs, etc.
    women want social part of games: aka dialog trees, dating/relationship systems, managing a "group" of characters, etc.
    women want "pets"/"kids" to take care of. literal: neopets, nintendogs, etc or squad based games like mass effect, dragon age, etc.
    women also like organizational/puzzle games like candy crush, animal crossing, farmville,

    women DONT particularly like games where you play as some static character and go through a adventure story fighting people. it doesnt matter if the protag is a generic white male chud or a strong independent women. WOMEN DONT PARTICULARLY LIKE ACTION/ADVENTURE GAMES. it doesnt matter what the protag looks like.

    but many women are stupid and easily manipulated by propaganda and advertising thus the millions of women who bought garbage games like horizon zero dawn or bayonetta but played em for like 30 min before shelving them.

    you cant make women like man things just by making the main character a woman. its still not the kind of game women typically want.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      correct on all points and the funny thing is that no matter how much they screech or how many billions they pump into trying to change it, it never will. because those things are nature and not nurture

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      saved for future use

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Almost as if men and women like different things, huh. Maybe females aren't the same as males?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Maybe females aren't the same as males
        Now make that a socially accepted statement you can say with zero opposition and you'd be up for the nobel prize, and contrary to a lot of other awardees you'd actually deserve it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        cool it down with the antisemetism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      based, this is the bottom line and absolute truth of this matter. We can't go deeper.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >managing a "group" of characters, etc.
      >squad based games
      A little off here.
      Women don't play grand strategy or hardcore tactics games either, no matter how "squad-based" the combat might be.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are misunderstanding the meaning with squad, those aren't characters those are units. The difference is like starcraft and fire emblem, starcraft you are managing production of a units, Fire emblem your units are characters.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Either way, number of characters is not directly relevant. Characters are units in most RPGs. Team sports aren't favored by women either.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How about making a good female character first that is also hot or at least cute to look at and then I'll play your game?

    I understand there's some supposed fuckery going around where they can't write interesting or relatable women characters in some way because the writers are retarded or just don't have the required experience to write those characters in a compelling way but come the fuck on, there has to be at least SOMETHING they can do, even if it's cliche.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >female (male)
    >defining personality trait: strong and independant
    Basically, stand alone female characters in contemporary AAA games just aren't attractive or interesting enough to warrant any attention.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      personality trait: strong and independant
      >writer wants more female protags in video games
      >the only way he can think of to fit them into the story or make them look good is to make them act like men

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >strong and independent
      >this is never demonstrated by a streak of self sufficiency such as cooking cleaning and being able to go several months without relying on anyone for anything
      >it is almost always represented as picking fights or beating people up or being abrasive
      I feel nothing but hatred. Maybe thats because I hate people who cannot cook and refuse to learn makes me want to beat them with a mallet

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m not buying this hot/attractive female player character nonsense. I don’t care how attractive they are. I don’t want to play as a woman in any shape or form. Strong women side characters are cool tho.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Strong women side characters are cool tho.
      no they are not fuck off subversive cunt

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don’t me strong like sjws mean. Do you want a sausage fest game?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fuck. off.
          The ONLY thing I care about is quality. Period.
          Fuck your agenda and your horniness and whatever the fuck else.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sometimes I hate the people on my side more than leftists. You are a huge gay.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              fuck off gay
              go watch porn if ur horny gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only reason to play female characters is basically help facilitate my day dreams of fucking the shit out of them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are very sensitive about it huh? Don't be afraid, come out of the closet, anon.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And how many of the 9 are not woke (eg: Nier Automata)?

    Personally I'll be buying Stellar Blade/project eve because it has the right kind of female protagonist.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    reminder that coombrains are worse than gyosloppers

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >gyosloppers

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        goysloppers*

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's not an anime girl

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    study some other games then

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's 9 too many.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    5. Mass Effect Legendary Edition / 13. Mass Effect 2
    14. Half-Life Alyx
    17. KOTOR
    20. Bloodborne Old Hunters
    22. Skyrim
    23. Portal 2
    31. Baldur's Gate 2
    33. Fallout 2
    51. Bloodborne

    Don't all of these games allow you to play as a female lead? And given that REmake 2 and Horizon 1 are further down the list, that means there's more than nine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Standalone. Doesn't count if you have a male option

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because women aren’t interesting and have inferior body strength

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i don't play games with women MC
    i might play as one if you can pick or create a char

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?
    Because if i have to play as a woman, at least make her pretty to look at, but that's misogynary in the diseased minds of these idiots.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No idea

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gully is pretty cute though

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Referring to those games as "popular" is even more disingenuous, as both the tomb raider reboot and the adventures of nikocado sold so few copies they had to bundle them with the console and then counted them as game sales. It's pathetic.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause devs can’t do it right

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what a retarded "study"
    those 6% are shit like tomb raider that aren't even popular with women
    the games women like all have customizable protagonists like animal crossing or MMOs, or they're even more abstract than that like the sims or puzzle games
    the only conclusion I can draw from this is that these retards don't actually care about appealing to women

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >these retards don't actually care about appealing to women
      As it has ever been.
      The target audience has always been low-test numales, easily manipulated tech nerds, and "ackshually did you know?" progressives who only care about confirming their shallow biases and virtue-signalling.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you're telling me games now have to also be POPULAR and feature a female protagonist? You can't have your cake and eat it too. fuck off.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Men like attractive female characters like 2B but western devs choose to make their characters ugly with facial hair

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Look at my game collection.
    >70% have strong female leads.

    I play Japanese games though.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love female protagonists

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When will we leave this "Please lick women's boots" era?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In a few years when the women stop sucking chud cocks and turn on them and their garden gnome masters. That's when ((they))'ll crack the whip and remove women's rights to vote as well as own property or speak in public - I would say based, but by then it will be too late.

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love female protagonists

      have a nice day newmoron

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't approve of controlling women.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That red headed bitch is so ugly

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because gaming is a male saturated medium
    Women only play candy crush and other garbage on their phones and only a fraction of them game on PC or consoles

    Why would you pander to the 5-10% of the entire gaming population? You're dooming your game from the get go unless you deliberately seek mostly female audience
    Female characters are fine when they're part of your party, crew or group, but I would never play one unless it's a fighting game character that has moveset I like or it's a really good game but has a female protag.

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe if they'd stop making them ugly or annoying more guys would want to play their games. The solution is so simple yet they can't or won't see it.

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The creature on the left isn't female

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    By my rough count there are:
    >106 male leads
    >22 player choice leads
    >10 female leads
    >7 shared leads
    >6 unspecified
    I know that makes 151 but fuck if I'm double checking all of them given how many expansions, DLCs and re releases are included as separate entries in that fucking list.

  73. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because i don't want to trigger my AGP

  74. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Half Life Alyx was good.

  75. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    by the way, there are good narrative reasons to choose a female protagonist.

    A female protagonist is a good choice in survival horror. Females are inherently more vulnerable than males so when your desire is to really give a feeling of stacked odds in the world against a character, making the character female can help here. Also, survival stories aren't gender-archetypal. A hero journey is a male archetype (if females were the primary adventurers, too many would die or be captured and raped and the tribe and is culture and storytelling traditions would die out). Doesn't mean you can't sometimes flip the script and get a good female hero journey, but it's not an issue with survival. Everyone needs to survive, there's no gender association with being placed in some terrible scenario against your will and being forced to make it out alive.

    And hey, guess what, survival horror has featured female protagonists since at least the 70s.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      other games were female characters could fit is
      pure stealth games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True although most extreme skill games still make more sense with a male. due to the bell curve effect most elite skill categories are dominated by men. So if your main character is supposed to be one of the top stealth operatives in the world, a male is a more natural fit. This is doubly true if we're talking high-risk stealth missions. You can get away with female more than other categories though.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Depends what kind of espionage we're talking about. Many of the most efficient spies in history were women, mostly secretaries who were bribed or brainwashed to serve a foreign government. That would actually make an interesting Papers,Please!-style game, playing as one of those secretary spies in Western Germany, hired by DDR.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spies, yes. Anything dealing with social dynamics, subterfuge, deception, intrigue, and so on is a natural fit.
            Stealth, no. Extreme skill at stealth will be male-dominated (although as with most things women can learn the skills and be more proficient than the average)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i dunno male lead stealth games then to be too action based female one would be more pure stealth in my opinion because when spotted it would more be game over that a fight
          plus female stealth character could be flexible

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Reasonable point

  76. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >study

  77. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they never had sex, incel.

  78. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    One thing that few people seem to realize is that women as protagonists severely limits the ability of games to come up with ideas and motivations that men can relate to unless it is something quite fantastical and stylized.
    GTA will be a disaster because we will have to pretend that a woman discussing typically masculine issues and using violence to subjugate men (often experienced thugs or trained military personnel) is something totally "normal". The retards who support this "counterstorytelling" shit (the act of subverting storytelling by telling it from the point of view of minorities where they are idealized while patriarchal white men are ridiculed) will say that people accept it when the Japanese do it, without realizing how stylized Japanese games are.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >say that people accept it when the Japanese do it, without realizing how stylized Japanese games are.
      yeah, totally agree
      Incidentally, I personally suspect that Samus was originally conceived to be a male protagonist and then someone had the idea to "reward" the player with a bikini girl in the ending and that's why Samus is female.
      (Although given how strongly the game is inspired by the female-MC Alien movies, I could be wrong here).
      Either way, the early Metroid games have very little plot and very little reason to think about the main character as having a gender at all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are most likely wrong, too many alien/s references in Metroid for Samus being a girl not being another.

  79. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play games to forget that women exist.

  80. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Check out the IMDB list
    >Witcher 3 expansions sitting there as standalone titles
    >And then this thing

    What the fuck is this.

  81. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    8 too many.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    moron, you fags who don't even play games made every fucking game political in the mid 2010s by screeching non stop about nonsense like sexism, racism, homophobia etc. You don't get to accuse anyone else of this. Unironically have a nice day in real life.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Censorship isnt the same thing as criticizing female designs

      Genuinely wouldn't it be like this? We know the only games that do particularly well with women are dollhouse sims like Animal Crossing or The Sims, and there's no reason to remove gender options from those games.
      If you're going to make some narrative focused action game with fully voiced characters and cutscenes, it's probably mostly going to sell to men, and spending the time to have a female option like in Mass Effect is going to eat up resources.
      Most men are going to want to play as the male character, because most people have limited imaginations and want to self-insert. That comes naturally.
      If you want women to play more of these games, you kind of have to take that up with them, and to be honest, you probably have better things to do than hound women over not wanting to play the new Horizon.

      In the end, none of this actually matters,

      I feel like if women were sexualized less for male satisfaction, then maybe more women would be willing to get into the gaming sphere. I could see why such things may be off putting to a lot of women

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I feel like if women were sexualized less for male satisfaction, then maybe more women would be willing to get into the gaming sphere.
        Well firstly, women are all ready in the gaming sphere. They play Animal Crossing and The Sims. Secondly, women are never going to take to action games en masse, because women lack that male impulse to kill and compete. They literally don't care.
        None of this is a problem. I don't know why people can't tolerate the fact that women don't want to play Halo, and no amount of nudging them to play Halo is going to make them play Halo. Leave women alone. It's weird, honestly.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, but women arent a monolith. Some enjoy action games, so therefore more games should take that into note and make more sensible and non-objectifying female designs. If women see shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8QCQdu_ZRY, of course they will be turned away from playing such games.

          Media doesnt exist in a vacuum.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >of course they will be turned away from playing such games.
            prove it gay

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >women arent a monolith
            >If women see shit like this of course they will be turned away from playing such games
            Which is it?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Some women do enjoy sexualized desgins, but the vast majority dont. Some men would be okay with twink pretty boys with big dongs in games, but most men wouldnt be.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Some women do enjoy sexualized desgins
                They do enjoy sexy designs but their taste tends to be different-- more heavily influenced by fashion and style with a balance of coyness and femininity whereas men like sexy designs because dick hard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then appeal to both, and everyone's happy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It can happen, but most of the time pandering too much to one will alienate the other and in order to be successful you NEED to pander.
                Again there's a shit-ton of female-targeted media that you don't even notice because it's not made for you. Pandering to you, even as a "balance" would ruin it for them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm fine with that, as long as we acknowledge that's what it is. Twilight doesn't have to be for me. Senran Kagura doesn't have to be for women. What's the problem?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Some men would be okay with twink pretty boys with big dongs in games, but most men wouldnt be.
                most men wouldn't care

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Fighting games are for mega-autists anyway, so you can lewd up their character designs all you want.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are action games for whatever that niche audience of women who want "non-objectifying designs" is. It's literally the Horizon series, and it sells pretty mediocre compared God of War or Zelda, as far as I'm aware.
            Something that actually does do pretty well with women is pretty boy RPGs like Final Fantasy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The issue is though that even though those "pretty boy rpgs" have male characters that appeal to women , most male characters meant to appeal to women have agency and are written like humans, while most sexualized female characters are not. And games with those sexualized men are a minority, nor is the sexualization of men in those games as gratuitous as the usual sexualization of women (do you see the camera pointing at clouds ass and dick for example?). Hell, even romance novels treat the men like humans still, while the same cant be said for male authors writing women. And youre being disingenuous with your horizon example. Sony literally just released the stellar blade trailer, which looks like a game made for a 14 year old boys wet dream.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >while most sexualized female characters are not
                proofs where
                >while the same cant be said for male authors writing women
                proof?
                >which looks like a game made for a 14 year old boys wet dream
                mad roastie?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hell, even romance novels treat the men like humans still
                I think you just don't understand how male characters are written in romance novels. They tend to be absolutely absurd if you know what you're looking for.
                They also tend to be far more verbal and emotional than any real-life male.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                by the way, I definitely understand your criticism from the blatant dick-pandering side. I don't have a problem with some games doing it, but do personally find it off-putting sometimes.
                But you're way off trying to think of it as some kind of unfair bias or systemic problem. You're just biased because you're immersed in videogames, japanese videogames in particular and most likely have very limited exposure to the full range of culture pandering to women.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You think JRPG protagonists are written like humans?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Sony literally just released the stellar blade trailer, which looks like a game made for a 14 year old boys wet dream.
                So what? Market variety. A game for every demographic. That's how it should be.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >while most sexualized female characters are not.
                clearly you haven't play any of them even H-game have female characters with full agency

                >And youre being disingenuous
                right back at you
                >(do you see the camera pointing at clouds ass and dick for example?)
                pretty sure women don't like those thing if they did no woman would complain about dick-pick

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              There are no good games like that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So now it has to be a "good" game too? Is God of War even a good game?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >If women see shit like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8QCQdu_ZRY, [Embed] of course they will be turned away from playing such games.
            thats pretty tame if this is what turns women of the fighting games then they should go to therapy to solve some of those insecurity

            >Yeah, but women arent a monolith.
            yes they are why else would feminism exist

            >Media doesnt exist in a vacuum.
            pretty sure it dose you can't judge games comparing it tho other games outside it's genre or product

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Girls, we really need to clean up the abs and chest from romance novels, because some gay men actually like to read them but are put off by all this objectifying imagery! Trust me, remove the abs and replace them with fat balding dudes and romance novels would be more inclusive!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >man and a big cat

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women who don't care about shooter games aren't suddenly going to start caring if you dress every woman in burkha in the game. The few women who play shooter games don't give a shit about sexualized women because they are already fully aware that they're consuming and enjoying products aimed at male demographic.

            The most watched tv shows of mostly women are Kim Kardashian TV show and Temptation Island, so don't try to give us this bullshit that oversexualization somehow prevents women from consuming something.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It is pretty funny to think about all the attempts by various companies to get women to play their games via changes to clothes, prominent female characters, and attempts to center the narrative around them.

              What did Nintendo do when they wanted women to play their games?

              They released Animal Crossing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because they're trying to please everyone and end up pleasing no-one. Trying to get more women to play shooter games is like trying to get more women to follow female soccer or ice hockey. Its doomed to fail.

                Ironically those women who do follow sports tend to follow male sports because thats where the peak performance happens. And they get to see sweating handsome dudes, while cheering for their country and getting a good excuse to drink themselves to coma once their country or team wins.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That article in the pic is so ridiculous. How is that girl any different than your typical instagram account.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If women didn't like those designs then why do they cosplay them?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Most of the complains come from modern "men", trannies and ugly women

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not all media needs to be for everyone, it's fine if some genre's are more uneven in their gender distribution.
            It'd be like insisting that lesbian porn for lesbians' contains hard gay man on man sex or a bunch of straight sex alongside the stuff they want, that idea is inane

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Women don't have the reaction time to be competitive in fighting games, cs:go, etc.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't know why people can't tolerate the fact that women don't want to play Halo,
          Women (and fags too) consume in greater quantity and more often on impulse than men. Depending on who does the study, you will find that women are 2 to 4x more likely to consume than men.
          So the reasoning of the suits is simple, if women consume 2 to 4x more, then if we attract women to our game we will sell 2 to 4x more items, DLCs, etc.
          What these guys forget is that there are biological differences between men and women and no matter how hard you try to attract them to your games, you won't succeed for most genres. People are losing the ability to notice this obvious thing because they live in societies led by a liberal elite are naive and obsessed with "equality".

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But republicans are the same a garden gnome loving cucks as poltards mutt self hating retards. Are the same as SJWs gays. Crying and screeching by any significant chance to the status quo. Besides this is pink capitalism garbage.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody gives a shit gay it's the "blue team" elite that is leading the culture war who fucking cares what the republicucks are doing? You have no worthwhile point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I not American and don't care about your culture war bullshit. The republicans and leftists are the same people that supports Israel.
                Even Trump supports that place.
                And this is pink capitalism garbage made by the CIA.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fuck off schizo you have no point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hahahahaha with presented with facts. You gays poltards screech like retards about schizos. Fucking gays mutts support a gay like Trump. That is collided with Ashkenazi garden gnomes. You don't nothing about politics, geopolitics and don't know nothing relevant thing besides you cultural war bullshit of left vs the right bullshit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Censorship isnt the same thing as criticizing female designs
        Yet you fags censor everything you get your claws into.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Once again, telling developers "hey, this character design is kinda objectifying and ridiculous, maybe you guys should be better and put more though into what type of media youre making?" isnt akin to "hey, fucking ban this game now!". Youre making a false equivalence. Freedom of art doesnt equal freedom from criticism. And I like fanservice too, for example I like Kill La Kill. But when fanservice is applied to EVERY female character in a game, at that point its just treating women as objects. And it also makes the game seem immature and ruin tension and immersion as well. You hate me saying this, but its the truth.

          >Hell, even romance novels treat the men like humans still
          I think you just don't understand how male characters are written in romance novels. They tend to be absolutely absurd if you know what you're looking for.
          They also tend to be far more verbal and emotional than any real-life male.

          > think you just don't understand how male characters are written in romance novels. They tend to be absolutely absurd if you know what you're looking for.They also tend to be far more verbal and emotional than any real-life male.

          And how much media has characters like that compared to the fucking truckload of big boobied love interests?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Once again, telling developers "hey, this character design is kinda objectifying and ridiculous, maybe you guys should be better and put more though into what type of media youre making?"

            In other words:
            >I don't approve of your work, change it
            This is basically the censor's job, to approve works that he (or the rules he needs to follow) deems appropriate.
            EVERY game that is sold has some kind of censorship because there are laws that forbid the commercialization of certain themes and the companies need to follow them.
            The only way to find things totally uncensored are obscure amateur games whose authors have not caught the attention of people like you.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We never said that you are not allowed to enjoy sexualized games. We just want people to understand the stereotypes at play and to be more critical of the media they consume. Just because you love something, it doesnt mean you cant criticize it criticize how certain groups are portayed in it. For example, youre allowed to enjoy old bugs bunny cartoons, but you should also be more cautious and critical of how blacks and natives are depicted in it. And regarding your censorship stance; if a game dev made a game thats batantly racist and depicted black people as monkey, would it be "censorship" to criticize that depiction?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Can we be critical of the stereotype of the evil white man?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one ever said that white people are evil though. Its more of a criticism of the power structures at play that actively benefit white people (not that you care though). Whats with you guys and your victim-complexes? Do white people get shot by the police for sleeping in their car or for stealing a bag of skittles?

                >The twilight men are written as humans
                They are literally vampires and werewolves.

                I meant that they actually have agency and character to them, while the senran girls are literally just T n A in your face constantly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                White people get slaughtered regularly in South Africa just for existing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do white people get shot by the police for sleeping in their car or for stealing a bag of skittles?
                yes, in higher quantities than any other race in america

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Its more of a criticism of the power structures at play that actively benefit white people
                that villain white male
                >Do white people get shot by the police for sleeping in their car or for stealing a bag of skittles?
                no they get shot for being white

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We never said that you are not allowed to enjoy sexualized games.
                Your whining is obnoxious, though.
                I understand the nominal complaint and sometimes I make it myself. But somehow almost nobody ever gets pissed off at me because I don't barge into every conversation and menstruate all over the thread about sexism and other postmodern critical theory bullshit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >We never said that you are not allowed to enjoy sexualized games.
                if you did't then don't complain about sexualizing

                >it doesnt mean you cant criticize it criticize
                you aren't criticizing you're bashing and whining not valid critic
                >if a game dev made a game thats batantly racist and depicted black people as monkey, would it be "censorship
                yes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And how much media has characters like that compared to the
            An absolute fuckton of media. Like, every fucking TV show that isn't a small handful of guy shows is aimed at women.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Bullshit. Censorship suites you freaks perfectly. You unironically believe objectification meme so you seek to take away things like sexy female characters and female characters with flaws. You then infiltrate the things you hate or intimidate the creators so you can ruin them. All your "criticism" is just a mask to cover yourselves which is why you "criticize" things that clearly aren't for you and that you have nothing but hatred for.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How is objectification theory a "meme" exactly?

              I'm fine with that, as long as we acknowledge that's what it is. Twilight doesn't have to be for me. Senran Kagura doesn't have to be for women. What's the problem?

              The twilight men are written as humans and have actual personalities, the senran girls arent.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The twilight men are written as humans
                They are literally vampires and werewolves.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >he twilight men are written as humans and have actual personalities
                They literally aren't. They're underwear models who live their lives to obsess over this one mediocre girl.
                I don't care about this personally, because it's not for me. If anything, I think it's funny, and kind of cute in it's own way. I'm not going to say it shouldn't exist, or less of it needs to exist.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >How is objectification theory a "meme" exactly?
                Because it is retarded and gay. So what if a woman is "objectified" in a videogame? She literally isn't real. You see things that clearly aren't for you and decide they are bad by your arbitrary standards so you try to destroy them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Its about how certain groups are depicted in media though.

                >Because it is retarded and gay.

                Very mature and reasonable criticism!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >women have to specifically be depicted the way I want them to be depicted
                I don't agree.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Who the fuck gives a shit about "groups"? Half the games that you garden gnomes "criticize" aren't even set in the real world, it literally doesn't matter.
                >Very mature and reasonable criticism!
                You're on a videogame board, it isn't meant to be "mature" or "reasonable" you gay retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is that you care about groups and don't care about people. This is the singular issue with all of identity politics.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This.

              Someone earlier in the thread said that even though you have freedom of art (which is just freedom of expression, 'freedom of art' is not a thing), you're not exempt from freedom of criticism.

              First of all, you don't have the 'freedom' to be criticized. Freedom means you have the space to do what that freedom gives you. It's a right you can exercize. It would be silly to exercise your right to get criticized, but also that if you have the 'freedom' to do that, you can also not do it, and that's not what that poster meant. What that poster means is that even though you have freedom of expression, that doesn't mean other people can't have *their* opinion about that. You're not exempt from having other people criticize you if you express your art.

              Which brings me to my point, people who feel the need to criticize just need to shut the fuck up. Stop being so uptight and feel the need to have opinions about what other people do.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >?" isnt akin to "hey, fucking ban this game now!". Youre making a false equivalence.
            i believe that it would be better to ban the game completely than to release neutered version of the game
            >And it also makes the game seem immature and ruin tension and immersion as well
            that what games are video games aren't for grown ups

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play wegs with female protagonists that I can whore out to every dick in the game

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If your game has a female PC, but you don't get raped on loss, you're wasting my time

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >gamergate happened 8 years ago
    >people still crying about muh inclusivity
    don't care please have a nice day.

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Horizon released at the same time as Breath of the Wild and then as fucking Elden Ring.

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genuinely wouldn't it be like this? We know the only games that do particularly well with women are dollhouse sims like Animal Crossing or The Sims, and there's no reason to remove gender options from those games.
    If you're going to make some narrative focused action game with fully voiced characters and cutscenes, it's probably mostly going to sell to men, and spending the time to have a female option like in Mass Effect is going to eat up resources.
    Most men are going to want to play as the male character, because most people have limited imaginations and want to self-insert. That comes naturally.
    If you want women to play more of these games, you kind of have to take that up with them, and to be honest, you probably have better things to do than hound women over not wanting to play the new Horizon.

    In the end, none of this actually matters,

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I play a ton of female protagonist h-games

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    moronS

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do though

    I just dont play Snymina

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one wants to play a female. It's fucking atrocious. Self-inserting is the only viable way to play video games. Game companies will never understand this because they don't play games. They got into the game industry because its just a job to them. Not a passion.

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's cringe they act like men as much as possible

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that's bullshit there are so many female protagonists now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It says "main playable character", which means they immediately get to discount every game with options. RE2 for example wouldn't count because you can also play as Leon.

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does it have good h scenes?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Great gameplay and story too, h scenes are just a bonus.

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Typical dishonesty.
    Popular games from all time? Maybe it's 6%
    Popular games in the recent 5 years? Definitely over represented for how little females play them.

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're unattractive dykes. Just add any amount of sex appeal and it will do well, look at Neir Automata or even the GTA 6 leaks. Sure, Lucia is a goblina but she has a fat ass so everyone is fine with it.

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I don't give a shit about women in media. At all.

    Also fuck you.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bayonetta
    >Ryza
    >Shantae
    >Metroid
    >Senran Kagura
    >Neptunia
    I love games with female protagonists

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I forgot those too.
      We want good female protags and not ugly mixed baboons acting like men.

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because western writers can no longer write compelling female characters with actual flaws. My favorite game has a woman protag who's an utter selfish cunt and gets her comeuppance multiple times and ultimately has to face the consequences of her actions by the end. compared to something like abby and ellie who never stop being cunts regardless of the cost and in abby's case is in the right for being a cunt.

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make them cute and likeable and I'll play them, westernoid chuds.
    >NOOOO YOU'RE LYING YOU CHUD!
    I played beyond good and evil, silent hill 3, parasite eve, gravity rush, tomb raider, Kya dark lineage. I don't have a problem with female protag. I have a problem with feminist burgermutt depiction of females. I don't mind females the same way I don't mind gays as long as they're likeable.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is directly with this focus on women. The issue is that writers are generally not talented enough to make a game with a female main character who doesn't come off as a massive bitch/smug cunt.

    I hate to be "but the Japanese" but Japan does do it better, even if 50%< of the female characters are ditzy or moe shit. They at least come off as likable people.

    Writers in the West have forgotten that you don't need to make someone a cold, condesending piece of shit in order to make them strong, independent, and capable.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even women can't do it in games aimed at women. Romance Virtual Novels aimed at women are a big business in Japan, and every single one of those games the actual female main character has some kind of special superpower but no real personality whatsoever. Probably so that its easier for the Fujos to self-insert to a boring blank slate.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >every single one of those games the actual female main character has some kind of special superpower but no real personality whatsoever
        Isn't this common to the majority of Japan's self-insert power fantasy fiction?

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just look at Aloy’s ugly face, there is your answer.

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Modern female characters are designed by pic related.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Mmm what if we make her really fierce and independent and she fucking tells me I've got a small cock and stamps on me, oooohhh!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Makes sense, ugly female characters appeal to the Cuck demographic

  104. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like games where female characters have a bad time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Missing Fear & Hunger.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what's the deviantart looking game with the blood splatter?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Demonophobia

  105. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Every woman I ever dated was really bitchy and treated me like shit. I don't need that from fictional woman too. I need pic related

  106. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Makes me wonder if they counted games with character creator as having a female protagonist. No, that shit counted as a mail straight of the bat, right? Because god forbid our flimsily constructed narrative actually encounter a bump. It might come crashing down.

  107. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >playing a game where the woman is competent and frequently outsmarts / overpowers men

    I can only suspend my disbelief so much.

  108. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the west can’t make good female characters. They’re all ugly or pushing feminist shit. If I’m paying for the game the character has to be attractive bare minimum.

    I do not pay money for games staring holes or Blacks. If you don’t like that you can tongue my anus.

  109. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    300+ posts thread so it's probably already been said, but I feel like a huge amount of games let you play as either male or female anyway. Whether it's character creation or character selection. The vast majority of my games let you play as a girl one way or another.

  110. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You clowns insisted representation was important. Well then, have women and trannies that feel represented buy that shit, I will not.

  111. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are they even counting games with Create-a-character, like Dragon Age, Elder Scrolls, Elden Ring, etc.?
    Many games now have an option where the female can be the lead.
    Sorry, I'm not interested in playing a game with SOLELY a female.
    Unless she is well written and well done, which usually doesn't happen.

    Let me be men.
    Let us play our games in peace.
    Enough of this "equality" bullshit, you don't even play the same games or have the same interests as us men
    And you never will

  112. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    But I did, I liked tomb raider and loved Lara crofts pyramid shaped boobs, before that fishlipped bitch angelina jolie made movies about tombraider and subsequent games turned her from sexy badass into some homely girl next door.

    some games need women protagonists with the right amount of sexy to be interesting.
    Otherwise woke can fuck off.
    besides women play candy crush and mobile games so why cater to them?
    Women or morons out of context in historical revisionism games are insta-nope for me.

  113. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Only 0 of the most popular harlequin romance novels have a fat, incel manchild who thinks girls are icky as the male lead
    >its problematic! Unfair!

    If the above isn't an issue, neither is this. I'm pretty sure its either GameRant or TheGamer that is trying to be the next Kotaku/Polygon in terms of ragebait.

  114. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm literally playing as one right now, you shit-stirrer

  115. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >go to play porn game
    >female protagonist

    dropped everytime

  116. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't gamerchuds play female protag games?
    They do, when the female protagonist is attractive and not a chud

    See
    >Tomb Raider
    >Metroid Prime
    >Half Life ALYX
    >Portal
    >Bayonetta
    For games with attractive protagonists

    See
    >Control
    >Horizon zero dawn
    >The Last of Us 2
    For chud protagonists

  117. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't play games with californians regardless of the sex

  118. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I always found it odd that anybody would give a fuck what gender a game protag is. If the game is fun, then I'll play it.
    Besides, more and more AAA games are just letting you make your own characters these days.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same, I don't really care about the gender of the protagonist, i only care if the game is fun.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it's annoying and distracting to see some ugly ballbusting cunt using male body language and manner that's clearly some puffy numale's idea of a strong woman.

  119. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why aren't there more men in makeup commercials? Its almost like its targeting certain demographics.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I know only one man who wears make-up, and even then, its not very often

  120. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Returnal
    Horizon
    Tomb Raider
    Bayonetta
    Metroid
    Bloodstained
    Tales of Berseria
    Control
    Silent Hill 3
    Resident Evil 3
    All decent games, but some of those chicks will not shut the fuck up.

  121. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I don't like Fantasy-Fiction.

  122. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God Aloy is su butt ugly

  123. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Be game developer
    >Have an idea
    >Make intricate story
    >Get told by management you have to alter your story to include people of color, the "differently abled", and change genders or they take it from you
    >"You're creative and we appreciate your energy, but... do you really think you have enough minorities in your story?"
    >You cant be creative unless it is "in the right ways" and appeases the twitter mob

    Absolute clown world.

  124. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just tried this myself, using Metacritic's top 100 ranking. About 1/3 of the list is duplicates which I tossed.

    Male protagonists only: 50
    Female protagonists only: 1 (2 if you count Celeste)
    Multiple or custom player characters: 13
    Non-human player: 4

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So big deal. Men play and make video games, and the video games reflect that. Why is it controversial to point out facts.

  125. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    don't feel like playing as a clown

  126. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They forgot to make them appealing

  127. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These games are made by people with no passion who are bad at their jobs because in current year they think these issues can be smoothed over by just hiring enough women and diversity so you end up with a bland game with absolute shit writing and then marketing tells you to eat it up because this female protagonist is so progressive.

  128. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If she aint hot I aint playing.

  129. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The study took a look at the 150 highest-rated video games on IMDB (excluding remasters and expansions), then determined whether each game had a female protagonist
    >woman always vast minority of gamers
    >people suddenly mad that they weren't retroactively equally represented

  130. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do. I just don't play Sony games or any game that is advertised to me or that I'm recommended. Not sorry either

  131. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've played plenty of games with female protags that I've liked. Umihara Kawase, Fatal Frame, Valis, River City Girls, Shantae, Haunting Grounds, NieR Automata. I'm just not interested in playing as an ugly bitch with an atrocious personality.

  132. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How many gamers are female?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Does it matter? i mean whats preventing you from playing as this lovely lady?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not a fag and I don't want to cut my cock off? That's about it I think.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I'm not a fag and I don't want to cut my cock off?
          I don't see what that has to do with videogames, but whatever

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lots but that term is increasingly meaningless or disingenuous. People playing competitive AAA action games are all male.

  133. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are usually unbelievable characters
    and the one time they have an actual built woman, they had to make it a lesbian and put it in a sony pony game

  134. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    9 is way too many.

  135. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I bet most of those 6% were old female protags, AKA before this woke disaster started.

  136. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    for the same reason they made the new Ariel black

  137. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Make the females sexy and beautiful like 2B and I'll gladly play their clits

  138. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Study claims
    A garden gnome claims.
    ftfy

  139. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So their point is that if you want your game to be popular, it should not have a female protagonist?

  140. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Playing female protagonist, especially when the game has some yuri/lesbian content is the first step into becoming a chud. Don't fall for this trap fellow anons.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've always been a yurifag, and I'm never gonna let my domain fall to corruption

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've played as female protagonists before and I'm happily married.
      If you turn into a chud it's not because of a game, it's more likely because someone fingered your butthole by force and messed you up.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      you retard yuri exists solely for men like me to rub their covks to

  141. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because im not transexual.

  142. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I played Nier Automata because it looked fun and interesting and had no gay politics or intentionally ugly characters for muh realism. I will not play your Horizon Nicocado game.

  143. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Despite being featured in only 6% of games, the female gamer population represents over 51%* of the gamer fanbase.

  144. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with men wanting to play games featuring male protagonists. Especially in current year when female protagonists only exist to push an agenda, rather than existing for the sake of being cool or interesting.

  145. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am female and do not really care if the main character is male or female. "Representation" is a meme. Sure it's nice to play as a woman and I will usually pick female if given an option between the two, but it's not like it's 100% necessary all the time.
    If the game is fun why the fuck should I care that I'm playing as a guy? Why should I give a fuck about their race? I feel like the only people who care are insecure fuckwads who need everything to pander solely to them 100% of the time. And yes, this includes people who screech about having to play as a woman. Insecure fucktards prone to chuding out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I am female
      Shoe on head

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ah, the typical who the fuck cares and pretending to be open minded while judging people for having preference. There's literally nothing wrong if someone consumes exclusively something that panders to them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >There's literally nothing wrong if someone consumes exclusively something that panders to them.
        I never said it was wrong you double moron. I said what IS wrong is people having a goddamn meltdown over it. Just shut up and play a different game if you can't handle the protag's sex or whatever.

  146. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the latest Famitsu top 30 from Japan
    >games with a male protagonist and no female protagonist
    2
    >games with a female protagonist and no male protagonist
    4

    As for all the other games on the list, the games star either a character of your own creation, or you choose between a man or a woman of equal importance, or the game actually refers to you the real life person as the player.
    There are tons and tons of games with female protagonists. And even for games that have a set protagonist, tons of games are marketed using female player characters anyway. Just look at just about any Splatoon promotion from the very first game right down to the new one, or just look at the games' cover arts.
    Maybe western games journalists should just stop being biased against Asian games.

  147. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because GOOD female protagonists are hard to find. I enjoy stronk female characters but most of them are just poorly written fap bait made by men or ultra power fantasy feminist garbage. You hardly ever get original PS tomb raider lara croft female MCs or literally every female character in Star Ocean 2. I like playing female characters, but good ones are hard to find anon. Just hard to find.

  148. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't mind either way.
    Horizon is just dogshit.

  149. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is a chud? Never heard of that. Did you misspell chad? Because GamerChads don't play as girls. Pedo chud groomers play as a girl, because something is defective in their brain.

  150. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is Atelier also Female protag?

  151. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If gender doesn't matter then why is it such a big issue that there isn't a perfectly even gender ratio in protags?
    If representation is everything and you can't enjoy playing a character you don't relate to then why are men the ones being expected to play female characters?

  152. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women don't like games, they like people watching them while playing games. They're a fucking meme.

  153. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The better question is: Why aren't women buying more games with female protagonists?

  154. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Last time I checked men don't enter female spaces and demand that they be allowed to do yoga in spandex or whatever.

  155. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because I don't want to play as a woman, and any game that has a female only protag makes me very unlikely to play it.

  156. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing wrong with female protags, it's just that current year female protags are fuckin ugly both physically and spiritually.

  157. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wow, you'd be tempted to think that maybe most women don't play a lot of games

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