Why don't you use CRT filters yet?

Why don't you use CRT filters yet?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come no one ever does this with other media? No one says Jaws was meant to be seen on VHS.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Film was shot on film. Hell even today some TV shows and movies still shoot on film. Even 10 years ago it was common. VHS was an inferior format even in its own time because it could only encode a composite signal, while high end TVs had stuff like S-Video, Component, or even RGB (via SCART).
      Video games were literally designed with CRTs in mind, everything from how long it takes to draw a scanline to how the pixels blur together.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >some TV shows and movies still shoot on film
        Any worth watching are shot on film. Digital media is for fucking idiots.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because Jaws was made to be seen in film. And people do get mad about that sort of thing, see David Lynch talking about watching movies on "your fucking telephone".

        Movies were made to be seen at a cinema, a TV in a sense was emulating a cinema.

        Because it never was you retard, movies were shot on film, not tape.
        They were meant to be seen in the theater at high clarity, people watched it on tape because there was no other option.

        What's the best option for watching old films at home? Is there an equivalent of a CRT filter if you can't see them at the cinema?

        https://i.imgur.com/9Za4W7p.jpg

        Why don't you use CRT filters yet?

        I like to but the number of options is pretty bamboozling. It can be hard to choose one because it takes a while of playing to really feel if it's any good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What's the best option for watching old films at home
          bootlegs that some moron made by taking a camcorder in the theatre, its sovlful :DDDDD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can watch them through retroarch using the very same shaders. But most movies already got a decent re-release, so check that first.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What's the best option for watching old films at home?
          Either get an actual film projector, or the highest definition TV you can. The distinguishing factor of "proper, authentic" film is higher definition than TVs can display, even in this ultra high resolution era. It's the opposite of all those old games, that were expressly designed for consumer-grade hardware and so look jarring when using a display medium that would in the 20th century have been considered borderline science fiction.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Jaws was made to be seen in film. And people do get mad about that sort of thing, see David Lynch talking about watching movies on "your fucking telephone".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >How come no one ever does this with other media?
      Except people are particular about the specific way older movies should be experienced.
      Instead of "you should play this with a crt/filter" it's "you should watch this specific printing/cut/color grading/etc."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it wasn't. Home releases are always full of compromises, specially old ones since they had to crop half the image to get it to fit on a 4:3 TV.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unrelated but you can watch these old animes that never got a HD release with CRT shaders and they'll look pretty good too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Movies were made to be seen at a cinema, a TV in a sense was emulating a cinema.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it never was you retard, movies were shot on film, not tape.
      They were meant to be seen in the theater at high clarity, people watched it on tape because there was no other option.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They did in some ways. Movies would sometimes be released in letterboxed format where there would be black bars on the top and bottom to create a 'widescreen' within your 4:3 television where the movie would be shown in its proper aspect ratio.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is there a "add random pop and crackle noise" plugin for foobar?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      music on vinyl is the exact same equivalent of this for other media, the reasoning is that in the case of games they used unique resolutions that only an older TV can put out mixed with quirks that come from the analog signal, with recordings it's about how in CDs and digital in general everything can be louder and more in-your-face and in analog audio the soundwaves and shit feel different, both sell themselves on the idea that there's some nuance that is lost when the source material is presented "as it is".

      In reality both are just kind of free anti-aliasing for music/video and at least for 2D games this is a nice benefit but not as much of a necessity, similar to how music can still be enjoyed digitally because the sound itself is good.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        loudness wars

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do say that and believe that.
      I also record all my FLAC music to C-tapes.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i play on a real crt

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you get a computer to output to it?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not OP, but the Raspberry Pi 4B allows for analog video/audio output from the 3.5mm jack, so I use a 3.5mm to composite cable to a CRT.

        Otherwise, you can use a HDMI to analog video converter but it introduces input delay.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wii can do S-Video and you can actually buy one right now. Pis are like $100+

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, fair.

            How's the emulators on that nowadays anyway? Still janky?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The emulators are fine as long as you are doing something below N64.
              Just remember to set the video output to "original" to get 240p.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have a CRT.

        CRT Emudriver and a cheap AMD card and a cheap transcoder.
        The next best option is to get a modded wii.

        Yeah, fair.

        How's the emulators on that nowadays anyway? Still janky?

        Raspberry pi emulators are full of input lag, they also use extremely outdated (graphics/sound aren't correct, compatibility is low etc) versions of emulators coz they're not powerful enough to run modern ones.
        Don't fall for the rpi meme.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      game?????

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Silhouette Mirage

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so does anyone know how to remove that glow effect, especially visible in white text, from crt royale?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            First that is not CRT royale, second its just trying to emulate the look of bloom on a CRT

            can you use it without the bezels and curvature?

            Yep

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nice haven't thought about that game in ages it sucked

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they look like shit. Kind of neat for screenshots but it certainly doesn't look like an actual CRT when it's in motion.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP gets filtered
    Typical, as usual.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I use simple2x instead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's hq2x, and yes I agree it sucks.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Genuinely my mistake, I don't fuck around with filters too much. Can you post a screenshot anon?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Honestly it barely even does anything, it just sharpens up the image a bit, making small text a bit more readable.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Triggered retard is here.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      where did the fucking brick texture come from?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just old Ganker bait, it's just NES and SNES versions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's just old Ganker bait, it's just NES and SNES versions.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those tiles actually look really nice.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the one I managed to configure for myself still doesn't look quite right, and I just got exhausted after some time.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For the last year I've been looking for a good filter but all of them don't look anything like a real crt. I spend more time fucking with filters than playing. What is your favorite so I can stop being autistic?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        not him but goddamn, what's this one?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          pretty sure it's the mega bezel preset on RA

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            can you use it without the bezels and curvature?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That would be just crt-guest shader.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cool, but what is it?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      crt guest advanced ntsc

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    currently switched to crt_guest_smd or something. Crt royale has too much glow effect and easymode doesn't have enough scanlines to cover huge pixels. Need something really strong to cover the xboxhueg NDS pixels on a 2k screen

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can actually see the lines, your filter is shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You can see the lines if you are sitting too close to a CRT too. At least with 240p content.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    until I manage to get my hands on a better gpu I'll not touch any filter or shader

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I'm not an autist that obsesses over MUH GWAFIX
    I just play videogames

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So do I
      I just like how CRT looks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because you're stupid.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's really not hard to load a shader and play a game

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    crt shaders are mandatory for games made for non hd screen, you retain so much more details

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're not retaining anything, you're being tricked by visual noise into thinking it's more detailed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What are these called?
          I'm new to these emulation filter things, but I know they look damn good and extremely close to how I remember the games looking as a kid.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            CRT shaders

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thank ya, pal

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                just use retroarch. It has everything built in

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks again. I'm kind of excited to go back and play some of these now. They looked so ugly before when I tried emulating in the past on my LCD.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this one's good because you can see how it affects dithering like in the clouds outside. resident evil 1 prerendered backgrounds also look way better with scanlines

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they don't look like an actual CRT and just hurt visibility.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    should I lower the internal resolution if I plan to use shaders?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should use whatever you like the most, don't listen to puristfags. But normally yes, that is what you want because that's the way it was intended. If it's PS1 you can use downsampling, looks even better than it was intended.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do though, I found the holy grail. This looks LITERALLY like a real CRT TV in motion.

    https://forums.libretro.com/t/sonkun-s-crt-guest-advanced-hd-slot-mask-presets-thread/39091

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks really similar to lottes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that one is blurry as fuck, even my ps2 through composite cable looks sharper and doesn't have all that noise

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >apply gaussian blur to video game
    >MUH SOVL VGH
    poser zoomers dont really do this, do they?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      zoomers are the ones obsessed with muh pixel art and thinking old games all looked like atari

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Whatever helps you cope. You should stop chasing nostalgia because only the biggest poser assholes are wanking over filters and barely touch the games. If you actually liked these games you'd be sinking tons of hours into them and breaking them apart mechanically, not hopping from one game to the next looking for screenshot bait.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          zoomer cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ruin game's intended visuals by outputting raw to an HD flat panel
      >MUH SOVL VGH
      00s kids are the ones who are damaged

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >don't sit 3 inches from screen
    >eyes apply filter
    >except it's not piss-colored
    WAO

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i like playing video games not spending hours tinkering with the image only to take screenshots of it to get attention on the internet like a chud freak such as yourself

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't you use CRT filters yet?
    I don't have an 8k screen. One day inshallah!

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I use a CRT and actual hardware you piece of shit zoomer gay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why bother if i can achieve a better result easily and without spending a dime?

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I’m a straight white male.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      those are like... scan lines or something.
      Doesn't even look like CRT, and it isn't adding anything properly to the original art as the artists intended CRTs to do.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It makes the prerendered backgrounds, text, and character portraits look much better. They look awful upscaled. It doesn't do much for the character models since they're polygonal.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah a proper CTR filter does that, but you're just using something that puts lines across the screen, and doesn't do what the artists intended.

          ok

          THIS is how it should look.
          Look at the difference in the clouds out the window for example when the shader is applied then not applied.
          It's not just a bunch of lines. It's something deeper than that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's still a CRT filter. The one in the other shot you posted is just applied much more heavily. If I turned the settings up it would do what you're talking about but I didn't feel it was needed because I already got the game looking the way I wanted it too.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well what's the name of the CRT filter shown in

              ok

              vs the one you use here

              I am.

              ?
              They can't be the same, truly. They are very different looking.
              The one you posted just looks like the regular scene on a LCD but with lines going through it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It makes the prerendered backgrounds, text, and character portraits look much better. They look awful upscaled. It doesn't do much for the character models since they're polygonal.

        Also, it is a CRT filter. It's just applied moderately. Very mild settings.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's fake and gay. Either use a real CRT or don't even thinking about it at all.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just downloaded RetroArch and there's not even a crt filter on the list.
    Where do I get this CRT royale filter?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      look for Shaders, not Filters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        thanks but do I need a certain version of RetroArch or something?
        I go into the video settings and there's only "Bilinear Filtering" and "Video Filter" categories.
        Where's the fucking shader options?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          while you're playing a game, boot up the menu
          Main Menu
          Quick Menu
          Shaders

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Wow.
            Thank you anon, and anyone else who helped, but it's definitely not as simple as "Just download RetroArch".
            So now I go into the shaders, go into CRT royale, and it says no files or something. Now I'm just thinking forget it. Uninstalling.

            Someone tell me when there's an emulator that makes it a lot more simplified. I just want to select the rom I downloaded and have it play with the crt shader.
            I can set up the controller options and video options fine, but this shader thing is ridiculous unless you're a giant nerd.
            I'd literally rather go buy a CRT display than deal with this shit any longer. I actually work a job and can afford things, rather than spending many neet hours studying shaders.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              KWAB

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Good on you anon, you saw through the retardation that is retroarch.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              retard

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nooooooooo you have to spend five hours working out where retroarch's devs decided this option belonged instead of putting it where every other emulator on planet earth does

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hey there are no shaders here maybe I should check the slang folder

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, it's a mess... I hope librashader catches on. But I think I know what the issue is. Retroarch won't show shader files the current graphics backend can't load. From the main menu, check settings/drivers/video. If it's on gl, the shaders should be in shaders_GLSL. If anything else, they should be in shaders_slang.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah. I definitely had it on that GL thing cause that's what it was on by default, but like I say, I wasn't that dead set on this anyway.
                Someone like myself who hasn't got the time to mess around with settings since they work a job is better off just spending the money on a real CRT anyway, so that's what I'll just do.

                Thank you and everyone for the solutions and helping regardless.
                The emulation community is rather great.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You won't be able to handle a CRT either.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but I was using them when I was four years old until I was about eighteen.
                I'm a 36 year old boomer now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're a slow adult who can't repair/configure anything. Soon you'll be in a CRT thread complaining about something else.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Jeeze. butthurt RetroArch developer much?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just sad when you see a "modern man" out in the wild.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Excuse me, but I picture "modern man" to be more the type who WOULD know how to make RetroArch function such as pic related.

                If it makes you that sad though, I'll try RetroArch again some time when I'm feeling more patient.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The modern "man" needs every thing automated and cannot configure/repair anything in his house. When something stops working it's time to buy it again. You cannot even figure out the simple settings of a emulator.

                When you get your 30 yr old CRT and encounter a real technical problem you will shit yourself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Are you still upset that people don't instinctively know to switch the video core from GL to something else, or that they don't instinctively know that they must be running a game for shader options to show up rather than just be in the options settings like would be expected?

                Hey at least I work out, nerd.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hey at least I work out, nerd.
                post pic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you want an option to appear when you're NOT ALREADY RUNNING A GAME?
                >YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WANT!
                >PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT!
                >JUST SET THEM ONCE YOU'RE ALREADY IN A GAME YOU FUCKING MORON ASSHOLE DIPSHIT
                retroarch is designed by retards

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're arguing about RetroArch on a Mongolian basket weaving forum calling others nerds. Hey pot did you know this kettle called you black? You're just too low IQ to emulate shit a literal child can Google. Before you say I'm the same anon pay attention to that IP count little newfag.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                no one cares though

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the (You)

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Genuinely retarded, I figured this out on my own with my only prior knowledge being that shaders existed on retroarch, in like 15 minutes, and I'm sure not anywhere near smart.

              Literally just read the options, fuck you.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          welcome to RetroArch's interface. It's awful. Its ardent defenders are retards who genuinely believe it's your problem that you dislike every fucking option in the world being obfuscated or even context-sensitive.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you recommend me a shader? I'm playing Castlevania OoE on a 1440p monitor (1x internal res). I'm using crt-guest-sm but the huge pixels are still annoying, especially those portraits

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do I use crt cga with snes9x?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >anon tries to find shaders on Retroarch

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought it was pretty easy, idk

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why don't you use CRT filters yet?
    That's reserved for zoomies. The ones who got obsessed with Stranger Things and want to experience an era they've never lived through before?

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like a clear image. Simple as.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Best shader for GBC/GBA? I've been using dot in RA for the time being but was wondering if there was a better alternative

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because I have a CRT

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I never understood how to use retroarch, i'm still using snes9x

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I have a CRT

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >have a crt
    >cant connect it to a computer to just emulate everything

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bro just buy a composite to HDMI adapter.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        already tried that and it sucked

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          hmmm
          define "sucked"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I compared against a game on a console I actually own and it looked like puke
            constant flicker and pixel bleed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean you can you just have to spend some cash.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this isn't crt, but any good lcd shaders for ds that emulate its color distortion?
    most of the lcd shaders i've found are just ports of generic shaders with no color/brightness correction

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