WHY EVERY SINGLE SURVIVAL GAME ALWAYS HAS SUCH SHIT BUILDING MECHANICS?

Name A SINGLE survival game that has good base building mechanics THAT'S NOT Minecraft, Minecraft isn't even a survival game.

Valheim, Forest, Sons of the Forest, Subnautica, Terraria, etc. are all the same fucking shit, why? Why make a game designed around making your own base, you know, TO SURVIVE, if you're gonna ruin it by making base building near impossible?

Just spent the last 3 hours trying to build a house in Sons of the Forest, I STILL DIDN'T FINISH NOT EVEN 1/10th out of it. Gathering materials, specially logs, it's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, it's BORING, it takes YEARS, and then the mechanics to actually place the logs down IS GARBAGE and ridiculously buggy, I've had like 50 logs disappear.

Base building in a survival game should be a priority for the devs, but no, they never put ANY effort into it. FUCK THEM.

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Just spent the last 3 hours trying to build a house in Sons of the Forest, I STILL DIDN'T FINISH NOT EVEN 1/10th out of it. Gathering materials, specially logs, it's ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE, it's BORING, it takes YEARS
    haha just wait until the REEEing monsters come in and destroy it in one hit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please don't tell me that's a thing, i'm uninstalling if that's a thing.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You almost had an argument. Almost.
    Then you decided to lump Valheim, which has very unique building design elements such as weight-stress and smoke management, in with the rest.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please try to build a decent house, and I said decent, not whatever equivalent to the minecraft dirt house you guys make in Valheim, and tell me if you didn't have to spend 50 hours doing it.

      You have to find the perfect place, level the soil, gather the mats, make a crafting station, make sure the crafting station has a ROOF for some reason, and then you can start building. And it takes HOURS.

      Games should be fun, a survival game should focus on survival and a base is required to survive, it shouldn't be a miserable "bob the builder" simulator. No, I don't wanna spend 50 hours gathering wood in a game about killing weird animal nordic gods.

      Not because you die if you have smoke inside your house it means the building system is good or fun.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Games should be fun
        building is very fun, sorry you suck

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's nothing fun about the Forest building system and you know it. Oh wait you don't, you don't even play videogames.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Oh wait you don't, you don't even play videogames.
            speak for yourself gay, also the new building mechanics in sons of the forest is way better than the first game

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              This just reminds me of how fucking retarded I was to build at the edge of the beach instead of ziplining logs to the water. I expected a beach base to not get attacked, but I built too close to the fucking woods and I constantly get raided.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Please try to build a decent house, and I said decent, not whatever equivalent to the minecraft dirt house you guys make in Valheim, and tell me if you didn't have to spend 50 hours doing it.
          You are retarded if you think building a nice-looking house in Valheim takes anymore more than five to ten hours at maximum, and that's if you want to make a fuckhuge mansion rather than a one-floor shithole.

          >You have to find the perfect place, level the soil, gather the mats, make a crafting station, make sure the crafting station has a ROOF for some reason, and then you can start building. And it takes HOURS.
          >Games should be fun

          that does sound like fun

          >le r/valhiem purists
          As a mod and server utility MATERIALS IN CHESTS COUNT WHILE BUILDING has literally several hundred thousand downloads. Never added into game, a basic base inventory, because valhiem is developed by autists who waffled about for a year on hearth and home (IE nothing) instead of implementing QoL fixes to broken systems. (Then overcorrected with the big and flashy mistlands that is widely hated by the few who've played it)

          Hits go through solid objects because fuck you that's be hard to code to have not happen.

          Not a single material type is invulnerable to lower biome mobs. Line of sight agro is so broken it means the average mob won't attack the 10 times necessary to break a log wall if you don't stand there staring at them, so building in stone that can survive 20(while needing just 1 to break to break all around it) is pointless and stupid versus double wood walls.
          >Or a trench
          Breaking AI pathing was the one thing everyone's most hated update tried to nerf by making seekers spawn in the meadows after yaglith dies. GG your safety base getting broken down to the studs by random flying ghast redskins and Tyranids in a viking game.

          Limited material and cosmetic sets, limited snapping, limited ground leveling, smoke mechanic but no fire=fire when fire is placed on wood, tension system never works when or how it should. Building sucks in valhiem, you just use dev commands or someone you know is lying about where all the wood and stone they server hopped with came from.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Please try to build a decent house, and I said decent, not whatever equivalent to the minecraft dirt house you guys make in Valheim, and tell me if you didn't have to spend 50 hours doing it.
        You are retarded if you think building a nice-looking house in Valheim takes anymore more than five to ten hours at maximum, and that's if you want to make a fuckhuge mansion rather than a one-floor shithole.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > Bro just spend 10 hours gathering materials and building some viking house lmao

          Do you just have... no life or something? How are you ok with spending 10 hours just chopping down trees and placing them down?

          Stupid cunt it takes 100 times more effort and time to build a real hose. Ever thought about that? These survival games already made it as easy as it can be. Next step would be just spawning a built house straight away.

          >Next step would be just spawning a built house straight away.

          Good. More survival games need a pre set base for the player. I'm tired of having to do everything myself. Subnautica starts you off with a nice ship but still forces you to go underwater and build some giant superbase otherwise you're locked off a thousand crafting stations.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm tired of having to do everything myself
            You picking up wrong games then. Hello? I don't like fighting games because they have shit controls which making stuff too hard to execute so I just don't play them. Simple as.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It takes literally zero effort for the devs to give the protag a main camp. If they want players to spend 50 hours building their own then fine, but I shouldn't be forced to interact with their horrible boring mechanics.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >buy game that is centered around base building
                >get mad when the game wants you to build a base
                wooooooooooooooooooooow dude

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's supposed to be a survival game not a chopping wood simulator.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >WOOOOOOOOW DUUUUUUUUDE

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The gathering and building mechanics suck, I agree, but this take is retarded. Go play something else, this game isn't for you.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                then why are you playing survival game retard

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To survive? Because I like the fact that the character has needs, that the character has to fight for his life against monsters, I like the exploration and the immersion.

                What I don't fucking like is spending 3 hours waiting for an autistic husbando to gather logs and for the base building system to be atrocious and full of bugs to the point those logs you waited 3 hours to get disappear.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stupid cunt it takes 100 times more effort and time to build a real hose. Ever thought about that? These survival games already made it as easy as it can be. Next step would be just spawning a built house straight away.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here, gay. Took me 8 hours in total

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          looks like gross shit ew

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Seethe, fag.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It looks like shit honestly.
          When I replay Valheim I want something like this

          Your shitty minecraft dirt house with stone balcony is crap.
          Also why are you such a chud? Even in a game about vikings you roleplay you're a woman? Lmao. Do you also play as a woman in stardew valley?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >chud chud chud
            >man i can't stop thinking about trannies

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why are you roleplaying you're a woman in a survival viking game?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not even that poster, you're just a schizo grasping at straws because you didn't like some dude's fucking screenshot of a valheim house. Get a grip, retard.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Post your build then, retard.
            Also
            >RP as a woman
            >Character is male
            Take your meds

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You have to find the perfect place, level the soil, gather the mats, make a crafting station, make sure the crafting station has a ROOF for some reason, and then you can start building. And it takes HOURS.
        >Games should be fun

        that does sound like fun

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          None of that is fun, you must be an autistic retard that finds fun in watching paint dry.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        this is the best advertisement for valheim ever. I'm checking the game out now because of this post. Webm unrelated

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any of that is ruined by the extreme stamina requirements on flattening ground

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    in any survival game that has building mechanics i just use console commands, trainer, or whatever to turn off build cost and just let my imagination run wild.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    valheim had great building mechanics, you just suck

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried The Forest during the Christmas sale. Seemed all right at first, then I killed a bird and had to chase the feathers as they got blown about on the wind instead of plucking them from the corpse. Also only got 2 feathers. Ok...
    Cut down a shrub for leaves, got one leaf.
    Uninstalled and refunded immediately. Absolute retardation to pad gameplay time.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Stopped reading when you listed a bunch of games, you're a moron.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can't you get that AI retard to gather for you?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kelvin takes HOURS to bring up logs, and he fucks up everything he does. He's a cinammon roll but he's useless, he cuts trees either super far away or the ones I didn't want him to cut, sometimes I would break something in the house i was building because it bugged or i didn't like how it turned out and he would IMMEDIATLY run towards the log that I just removed to pick it and carry it to the log bin.

      He also carries just one log, while walking extremely slow, and he has a stamina system so if he gets tired he stops gathering for like 5 minutes.

      And no, sleeping doesn't fast forward this shit, i tried sleeping like 20 times and he was still sitting on the fucking floor.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        he's doing his best anon

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Then play Rust you whiney cunt

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how do i play as white only in this game? i hate that you are assigned with non whites sometimes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      fr they need to add character creation to this shit. i was gonna buy it until i saw some streamer spawn as a moron

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? Singleplayer has one protagonist and he's the whitest chad there is. You only get randomized skin color if you play in multiplayer. But if you're single player you should always be Carl who's LITERALLY a clone of Channing Tatum, white as fuck.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Huh? Singleplayer has one protagonist and he's the whitest chad there is.
        why the fuck are you confused retard, he said he's playing multiplayer

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he said he's playing multiplayer

          Where?.
          Go on, point out when he said he was playing multiplayer.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i hate that you are assigned with non whites sometimes.
            he was assigned with other people. he was playing multiplayer. did you think he meant the player character?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            let me hit you with something else because you pissed me off. why the fuck would think he was playing single player in the first place? you specifically mentioned that the problem he's facing couldn't happen in single player, and yet you didn't stop to think that he was in multiplayer?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because he's a race baiting incel so he probably watched an online video, saw that the protag had a black hand and assumed the protagonist is randomized.

              You're very, very stupid if you think people here play games, most of you just watched some incel video

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minecraft was better before the survival features

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I liked the building mechanics in Grounded. Seemed like a good balance between ease of use and complexity.

    That said, I played the early access, I don't know if they made it harder or more tedious in the final game.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grounded is one of the only fun survival games, and I used to play a shit ton of them.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WHY EVERY SINGLE SURVIVAL GAME ALWAYS HAS SUCH SHIT BUILDING MECHANICS?
    Subnautica has fucking amazing building mechanics
    just the problem is that there's no reason to really build a base.

    The Forest (first one, not the newfag one) has pretty decent building for its time, but the way the game's AI is designed means it actively punishes you for building a bigger and bigger base.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Play Valheim

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That must be modded. Building that high in vanilla always had shit collapse on me.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That must be modded. Building that high in vanilla always had shit collapse on me.

      thats possible if you combine the stone pillars and iron pillars

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >iron pillars. Well shit. I don't think I ever played long enough to even bother trying to make furniture or houses out of iron.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's Early Access, Dumbass. It's on you for paying to play an unfinished product.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I pirated it, and Early Access doesn't mean shit, name a single game that was different on release than it was on Early Access. Early access is basically "we're selling you the full game but with even MORE bugs".

      If anything more games should be upfront about them selling an Early Access, like Cyberpunk and Hogwarts Legacy.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then why the fuck are you playing it if you're are fully aware of what Early Access means?
        You're fooling yourself, buddy.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Minecraft isn't even a survival game.
    It started the trend for survival genre zoomer

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I like conan exiles' since they redid it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      idk i find it dumb when you join a pve server and all the endgame players have just built big ass mansions and skyscrapers
      just feels out of place

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make a zipline and send the logs back from further away without having to run back and forth, also friends help we had two of us cut and send logs and 2 more build

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I quite liked the building in rust. Booby trapping your shit with turrets is a ton of fun. I just wish you didn't benefit as much from making a shitty bee's nest of five doors all clipping into each other that you're constantly opening and closing into your teammates' faces.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sons of the Forest is blatantly unfinished, even by EA standards. The Forest has good base building and the traps are incredibly fun.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ark, but it took a LONG fucking time till it was good.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Basic gaming cycle does not support a holistic survival experience without shortcuts and we should stop allowing games companies to lie to us.

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP you're a gay with annoying opinions but play Card Survival, every action takes 10 seconds at most to perform and it has a pretty in depth base building and ranching/farming mechanics.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This looks like complete dogshit lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        like i said, you're a gay with annoying opinions so i can't say i'm surprised you have shit taste as well.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >game literally looks like it was made in one of the Microsoft Office programs
          >UHHH YOU JUST HAVE SHIT TASTE
          I just think you have bad standards.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >muh graphix
            like i said, shit taste. also why do you speak like such a gay?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >muh graphix
              Yes. Games need graphics to have nice looking bases. Not mspaint cards wirh clipart.
              Show me your build in that game then
              The entire point of the thread was aesthetics

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i thought the point of the thread was for you to whine like a bitch and have anons mock you, my mistake.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's not me, you obsessed pathetic fuck.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sorry, you just talk like such a gay i thought you were OP

                Games that have a cool and interesting artstyle are exempt from bad graphics. This game has neither good artstyle or graphical fidelity. Also you only think I talk like a gay because I'm shitting on your objectively bad taste in ""games""

                i think you talk like a gay because you talk like a gay, gay.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >post word amount: 27
                >amount of times word gay used: 4
                Just discover a new word? Or are you taking a break from reddit where you can't say that no no word?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think he's accusing others of being gay because he can't accept his own homosexuality.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                not him but you really can't make a post like this if he jokingly overused the word gay 3 times in one sentence. try something else, you sound retarded.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>muh graphix
              yeah? the thread was about good looking base building

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Games that have a cool and interesting artstyle are exempt from bad graphics. This game has neither good artstyle or graphical fidelity. Also you only think I talk like a gay because I'm shitting on your objectively bad taste in ""games""

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That game screams GROOMER GROOMER GROOMER.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP has a real point with building in survival games but he ruined it by being an insufferable gay.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Come home to the greatest survival building game ever, with it's infinitemodable possibilities

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No. Minecraft is ridiculously boring and has no survival shit at all. Don't Starve is a million times better. What kind of survival game has like 2 types of food? Wooow I can eat bread or i can eat cow! WOOOW

      Why bother making a huge house with a beautiful kitchen when all you can make is bread and beef? Fuck Minecraft.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yeah wow maybe you should've learned from the fact the forest was awful

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just bought Grounded thanks to the two (gay) anons in this thread

    Hopefully theres not too many bugs

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why game has

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How do you say it then???

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rust
    Peak comfy
    Kino as fuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My dad plays it 24/7 and he has meltdowns every time they raid his house

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's why I don't play rust, things get way too intense when your base is getting raided

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rust is shit.

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Building in The Forest is fun as fuck, and it's satisfying watching it slowly come together as you gather more materials. You're a fucking gay anon.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Rust has the best building if you want speed and efficiency. Minecraft has never and never will have good building mechanics. It's tedious as fuck.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I use to love building in 7 Days to Die but the dev is a turbo autist that turned it into a fucking wave defense game and keeps "fixing" the ways people zombie proofed their base, so I'll go with Conan Exiles.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I've been expanding my starting cave and haven't moved out in 3 in-game years despite having a house built right next to it

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Minecraft
    >can immediately start building your base as soon as you start a new world and have a serviceable starter shelter built in less than 10 minutes
    >gathering basic building materials is trivial
    >crafting recipes require few materials
    >most recipes related to building require common, easily acquired materials
    >building is easy and fast

    "Survival Crafting" games
    >10 hours of play to build even a basic shelter
    >gathering the most basic building materials is tedious and time consuming
    >crafting recipes force you to grind for hours
    >even extremely basic building features can take you many hours to get access to
    >building controls often feel like they were designed by an alien

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why is surviving in a survival game time consuming and a lot of work

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would say Dragon Quest Builders but that’s more of a base building game with survival mechanics

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