why is gen 6 like this?

why is gen 6 like this?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pic related is the exact, specific point where XY go from decent games to being complete shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is it because you don't like Mega Evolution?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I also hate Lucario. Regardless, the pacing went to shit at exactly this point

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's the exact moment where the game shits the bed in general, even if you hadn't gotten Mega Evolution at that point or had to sit through a load of Lucario wank it still would've been the same, it's just a funny coincidence that both of those things also happen there.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Agree wholeheartedly.
      And i find it hilarious how the moment is marked by a huge statue of a furry anthro shillmon with a deviantart-tier modified design for his new OP form.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i will never really understand why the pacing of gyms 1 and 3 was so well done, then as soon as
      happens it becomes a souless boss rush with no memorable gyms except maybe laverre

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My only guess is that the games had to be rushed at some point in development

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lucario from SINNOOOOOOOOH

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I stg the fucking instant the cutscene starts where you enter it with your friends the entire game shits the bed

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >the entire game shits the bed
        In what way? The rest of the game remains pretty solid.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Solid as a dry turd

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Actually true, damn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Solid as a dry turd

        >still no argument
        man the hate against XY feels so forced

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >please argue with me over opinions
          No

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            good opinions can be backed up objectively

            I think platinum and BDSP are shit and I have no problems explaining why using actual facts from the game

            explain how the pacing, especially in regards to the Team Flare plot, doesn’t completely shit the bed after gym 3

            depends on what you mean by "shits the bed". "Shits the bed" in general? Sure. "Shits the bed compared to other Pokemon games"? Not really.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cool
              I've backed upmy opinions on XY being bad many times in many threads but it turns out trying to have a discussion with a professionally diagnosed retard is a waste of time and energy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I've backed upmy opinions on XY being bad many times in many threads
                I doubt that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ok

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          explain how the pacing, especially in regards to the Team Flare plot, doesn’t completely shit the bed after gym 3

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >can't defend with anything other than deflection
          >says others have no argument
          Is some part of you still rational enough to see the irony?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >can't criticize with anything other than making unsubstantiated claims
            >cries about people calling out the lack of an argument
            Is some part of you still rational enough to see the irony?

            it's only a boss rush cuz fucking nothing happens after you enter each city. BW actually broke up the gyms with an exploration quest before going to the next city and character intros/story for every gym leader not named Brycen.

            >it's only a boss rush cuz fucking nothing happens after you enter each city
            When you enter Lumiose the power comes back on and the 2/3 of the remaining city is open to have stuff to do.
            When you enter Laverre City you have to stop Team Flare at the PokeBall factory
            When you enter Vendemille Town you have to stop Team Flare at Frost Cavern.
            When you enter Anistar City you have to take a detour to invade Team Flare's cafe.
            When you enter Snowbelle City you have to go find Wulfric first who's behind a complex forest.

            If you think the game is "rushed" because the game doesn't spam you with shitty cutscenes with NPCs leading you around in every new area then you must think every single game outside of gen 5 and 7 is "rushed"

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I don't like XY and I'm inclined to agree that there's still shit to do when you reach a new city or town.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You seriously beed to seek help with your obsession. You were so close to making an actual argument, but just couldn't avoid throwing in deflection to other games at the last second even while denying reliance on it in the same post.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You were so close to making an actual argument,
                Me shitting on games you like doesn't stop the fact that the argument is still there.

                Those are all things to do either within the same city or one small offshoot, while Unova’s “””linear””” campaign had way more books and crannies to explore via sidetracking and backtracking. Yes, both games shove yku from city to city, but it’s still Unova with more to do between each gym.

                >Those are all things to do either within the same city or one small offshoot,
                Oh, so now you're moving goalposts to "it has to be somewhere else"? Even though Cold Storage is in Driftveil? And the Pokemon Musical cutscene Bianca forces you to sit through is in Nimbasa? And Celestial Tower is just a 1 minute walk away from Mistralton City? And Dragonspiral Tower is literally a few tiles above Icirrus City? Meanwhile in XY, Frost Cavern is next to a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CITY than where any of the gyms are and you have to backtrack to Lumiose to reach Team Flare's cafe? Lmao

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >me deflecting to other games doesn't stop the argument
                It does when just one post earlier you were trying to argue that XY had similar pacing to BW BECAUSE BW's pacing was good. Backtracking to call BW bad after writing out a list to compare the two just drags down XY with it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Those are all things to do either within the same city or one small offshoot, while Unova’s “””linear””” campaign had way more books and crannies to explore via sidetracking and backtracking. Yes, both games shove yku from city to city, but it’s still Unova with more to do between each gym.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          aight aight
          >game balance
          self-explanatory, just after the THIRD badge you get the ability to have two Pokemon with 600+ BST and broken ability
          And coincidentially, this is where you have to face the weakest gym of the game - the grass one
          >pacing
          fine I guess, it's just a whole lot of Team Flare battles back to back. still better than some of the other games eh
          >exploration
          cool routes but nothing interesting 'till Route 16's lost hotel
          Wouldn't hurt to have some kind of optional area to on Route 13 :^)

          thass about it, game fucks up more a whole lot later really between gyms 7 and 8

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I agree, every pokemon game is bad

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Finally.
              We've reached the point of delusion where the XYtard will just conclude "lol every pogeyman game bad cuz I can't read"
              The point where I can finally leave the thread.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >will just conclude "lol every pogeyman game bad cuz I can't read"
                You concluded that because you said the game is bad because of things practically every game in the series is guilty of. Congrats.

                I think the pacing is one of the worst parts of the game. After gym 3 the game takes a massive step away from building up the people and culture of Kalos outside of a few key instancs in favor of the gym challenge and Team Flare. It all gets muddled together and makes the experience forgetful because there's little to no downtime in the story. It's like how shitty shonen mangas will have back-to-back action segments.

                >After gym 3 the game takes a massive step away from building up the people and culture of Kalos
                Do you have a single fact to back that up?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you have a single fact to back that up?
                My personal gameplay experience.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just wait, he's gonna say it's your fault for not paying attention

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >you concluded that
                NTA but you literally were the one who said it after not liking the criticism of XY in their post. Giving up is one thing, but trying to put words in someone else's mouth after that is insane.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >but trying to put words in someone else's mouth after that
                I didn't do that. He said it himself that every Pokemon game is bad.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think the pacing is one of the worst parts of the game. After gym 3 the game takes a massive step away from building up the people and culture of Kalos outside of a few key instancs in favor of the gym challenge and Team Flare. It all gets muddled together and makes the experience forgetful because there's little to no downtime in the story. It's like how shitty shonen mangas will have back-to-back action segments.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The saddest part of XY is that they could've been solved with Z pretty easily. Fix up the pacing, flesh out the post game and make Lysandre less retarded, and give us a few new areas. Would've been one of the greats.
              Instead they dropped Kalos like a one night stand in favor of ORAS and Gen 7.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Fix up the pacing
                What is there to fix?

                >flesh out the post game
                What is there to flesh out?

                >make Lysandre less retarded
                Emerald and Platinum didn't make their evil team leaders less retarded, and BW2 somehow made Ghetsis even MORE retarded, so what makes you think a Z version wouldn't do the same?

                >and give us a few new areas.
                Like what?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Your Socratic method of arguing just makes it sound like you never played the games. If I need to explain it to you, you're retarded.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Probably hit the nail on the head there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't have to actually explain my argument! you should just mindlessly agree with me!
                if you want a circlejerk reddit is the other way

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >please spoonfeed me arguments that I won't read

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                (Me)
                Called it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >BW2 somehow made Ghetsis even MORE retarded
                That's because it was a sequel and he had a mental breakdown between games

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                XY got shafted so hard, it could easily be a DP situation where the third version ended up great. But alas, Pokemon Company really felt like abandoning these games in favor to Sun Moon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >XY got shafted so hard
                how?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They were the first mainline games to not get an additional version, Zygarde had unused moves that only came up for Sun Moon and he stands as a pretty random legendary because no build-up, explanation or whatever in his game. Eternal Flower was never released or battled despite being a important Pokémon for the lore of Kalos.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They were the first mainline games to not get an additional version
                So?
                >Zygarde had unused moves that only came up for Sun Moon
                So?
                >because no build-up, explanation or whatever in his game
                So just like Rayquaza? Or the Regis? Or [email protected]? Or the Legendary birds? Or Heatran? Or the genies?
                >Eternal Flower was never released or battled
                So?

                So in total, the game is "shafted" because 2 moves and a single form of a Pokemon are unusable? That seems like an incredibly clownish exaggeration.

                BW is atleast designed around being one gym after another, X and Y doesn't feel that way at all

                >it was at least designed around being rushed
                I don't know what this is supposed to mean.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Of course you don't brainlet

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded? Rayquaza had Emerald. All other are just random trios.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Rayquaza had Emerald
                In which it had no build up and explanation, yes. It has only 30 seconds of relevance in the entire game and that's it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So? So?
                Holy shit you're like a child acting like a teenager.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >p-please stop asking me to explain my points instead of just saying random shit and claiming it's bad

                ??????????????
                >So?
                Bad thing because
                >So just like Rayquaza?
                Has in the third version
                >Or the Regis?
                Read.
                >Or [email protected]?
                >Or the Legendary birds?
                They don't really need it because they don't represent something
                >Or Heatran?
                Literally a whole sidequest for it
                >Or the genies?
                There's some bro telling you about it.
                >So?
                Well unused content is a waste, retard

                >They don't really need it because they don't represent something
                ok then Zygarde doesn't need it either

                >Well unused content is a waste,
                Not necessarily. It could just be that the devs were originally planning on having the player battle AZ with his Floette but decided it would be better for the story if he got his Floette after battling you instead.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                ??????????????
                >So?
                Bad thing because
                >So just like Rayquaza?
                Has in the third version
                >Or the Regis?
                Read.
                >Or [email protected]?
                >Or the Legendary birds?
                They don't really need it because they don't represent something
                >Or Heatran?
                Literally a whole sidequest for it
                >Or the genies?
                There's some bro telling you about it.
                >So?
                Well unused content is a waste, retard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Touching on what

      I mean it's mostly a pacing issue.
      Around Laverre and Route 15/16 is the best part, but by that point you'll have just rushed through gyms 3, 4, and 5 in a few hours.

      says, I think the pacing is only bad during the middle. If you can get over the hump (past gym 6) then the game starts to space itself out again. Like between the 6th and 7th gyms you get 3 routes, 2 dungeons, and a town, and between Gyms 7 and 8 you get like 3 dungeons, 4 routes and a town. I really like the end game stuff too, it worth suffering through the middle

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can I just say that it's fucking hilarious how much of a failed shill of a character Korrina is?
      >Designed to introduce Mega Evolution
      >Tags with Ash in the anime
      >Uses Lucario
      >Gets her own unique battle theme
      >Completely forgotten after Gen 6 because she really did nothing

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you forgot that she's also meant to shill the skate gimmick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Can I just say that it's fucking hilarious how much of a [FANFIC] Korrina is?

        maybe one day people will find problems with XY that are based in objective reality
        maybe one day

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >>Can I just say that it's fucking hilarious how much of a [FANFIC] Korrina is?
          You're right, she's so poorly written and so obviously designed to be a Mary Sue she's practically identical to a fanfic character

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Personally I'd put it right after you beat Grant, the distance between the 2nd and 3rd Gyms really feels like the start of GF just running out of steam with regards to making long journeys between gyms for Kalos, most especially with the Route preceding Reflection Cave which comes off very small and seems to quickly ramp up from the fairly base form focused 1st and 2nd gyms to the mid-form focused 3rd, 4th and 5th gyms.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I mean it's mostly a pacing issue.
    Around Laverre and Route 15/16 is the best part, but by that point you'll have just rushed through gyms 3, 4, and 5 in a few hours.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't follow

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What's wrong with the PSS?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing, that's why the horse suddenly gets drawn better at the end.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe it was rushed. Outside of the Kanto pandering, the game felt like peak Pokemon until after the second gym

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >XY IS BAD BECAUSE AFTER THE 3RD GYM IT JUST BECOMES A BOSS RUSH
    >BUT BW, WHICH IS A BOSS RUSH THE ENTIRE GAME, IS TOTALLY GOOD THOUGH TRUST ME

    retarded meme

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      huh? BW bad, what do you mean
      XY bad AND BW bad.
      Why do Kalosperm have such a hard time understanding this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      gen 6 will never be good kid

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's only a boss rush cuz fucking nothing happens after you enter each city. BW actually broke up the gyms with an exploration quest before going to the next city and character intros/story for every gym leader not named Brycen.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Even then, you have the Dragonspiral Tower events RIGHT after the gym instead of nothing at all.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BW is atleast designed around being one gym after another, X and Y doesn't feel that way at all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >guaranteed Unova deflection to defend Kalos
      XYgotes are incapable of argument as always

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Tbf all other region fags deflect to Unova, Kalosfags just do it very often.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I agree every game has bad pacing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >I can't defend my argument so every game is bad

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >every game is bad
            You said it, not me. If XY's pacing is bad, but BW's pacing is even worse, that must mean you think BW's pacing is also bad. It's simple logic.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >you said it, not me
              Do you have short term memory loss issues or something?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nope. Do you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hello yawnfag

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >actually comes in with an objective comparison from the games instead of just going "UMMM IT -FELT- BADLY PACED"
        based Yawnbro

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >game has to be compared to another just to defend it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            both BW and XY have bad pacing, I agree.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Both are shit

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I got 5 badges in Emerald in the same amount of time it took me to get 2 badges in XY

    I don’t think the people who complain about this actually remember how long Pokemon games typically are

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Emerald runs two times faster than XY
      >get twice as much badges in Emerald in the same time
      your turn.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        runs two times faster than XY
        no it doesn't

        only the framerate is higher, the actual speed of the game isn't, and the battles in emerald are actually slower than XY since the HP bars take longer to drop

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >only the framerate is higher, the actual speed of the game isn't
          Tell me, how long does it take to win a battle in Emerald as opposed to XY?
          How long does it take to get through all of the text boxes after a mon levels up?
          Which game has the faster speedrun?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Which game has the faster speedrun?
            Not that anon, but what're you, a fucking idiot? Speed is dictated by the length of the game and availability of skips. You don't measure operating speed of a game based on speedrun comparisons between them holy shit. ESPECIALLY not ones that have a decade between them you fucking nonce.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Tell me, how long does it take to win a battle in Emerald as opposed to XY
            Dunno but it’s slower than XY

            > How long does it take to get through all of the text boxes after a mon levels up?
            Dunno but it’s slower than XY

            >muh speedruns
            not relevant

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              > How long does it take to get through all of the text boxes after a mon levels up?
              >Dunno but it’s slower than XY
              Demonstrably incorrect
              Emerald: https://youtu.be/AmSH2s-RYoA?t=1279
              As you can see, from the level up sound to the end of the textbox clearing is about 2-3 seconds, you can go frame by frame if you want the exact count.
              XY: https://youtu.be/rxSjiYl3VYk?t=2382
              For the same action (sound effect to final textbox) it takes 3-4 seconds (again, count the milliseconds or frames if you're so inclined).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                too bad xy is still faster so it doesn't matter anyway

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's reasonably fast, I wouldn't say it's the fastest Pokemon game or anything. After the disaster that was DP I think they got it down, but it's not like the games before it were super slow wither. XY does have it's share of performance issues though, but thankfully it's just in battle and mostly when the 3D is on, or there's more than just two Pokemon, or when they try to do any sort of camera angle. Actually moving around isn't suffering at least, so it has that over DP too.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't understand this pic, but I'm having fun with XY when I buffed the npcs.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I've seen "this game is shit" threads a lot and the only games that get constant deflections are GSC and XY.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just XY. Stop trying to make your shitty nugen childhood look comparable to a classic game that’s actually good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Case in point

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's because they're the only fanbases that don't have confidence in their opinions. Others have accepted or chosen to ignore the hate for their games over time, but for some reason Johto and Kalos fans just couldn't, and are too far into their own delusional arguments to give up now.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Really pathetic how Sun and Moon are just XY again with Gamefreak preteding they were new games. You probably wouldn't even be able to tell which one came first if you were to see a random gameplay section from each other.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Game Freak actually domesticated the fanbase into thinking a game that doesn't have a rehash is automatically bad
    they're fucking geniuses

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Huh? What u mean?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You'd think after spending months upon months arguing with literal retards online the Kalos defense force would at least have learned to make convincing arguments. This repeated deflection, cherrypicking and all around bad faith arguing is YouTube debate tier.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >deflection
      i.e. "pointing out my inconsistent standards because I said game A is worse than game B because of X even though both games have X"

      >cherrypicking
      i.e. "actually using examples to support your point instead of just making unsubstantiated claims"

      >bad faith
      i.e. "you're not mindlessly agreeing with me"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Damn bro you should start a YouTube channel, you legitimately cannot argue in good faith can you?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          define "good faith"

          Even then, you have the Dragonspiral Tower events RIGHT after the gym instead of nothing at all.

          you mean like XY....where you have the Lysandre Cafe events RIGHT after the gym instead of nothing at all?

          I fucking swear the retards who bitch about XY didn't actually play it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Good faith is the presumption that both sides with deal with each other fairly and honestly. Engaging in dishonest tactics such as deflection to Gen 5 when people bring up their issues with Gen 6 and nobody was even talking about Gen 5, cherrypicking data points that ignore the greater context of the issues at hand or completely throw nuance out the window, and the lovely strawmanning you did in order to make it seem like I think anyone who disagrees with me is arguing in bad faith when I never said that at all, are all examples of bad faith arguments.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Engaging in dishonest tactics such as deflection to Gen 5
              That's not dishonest. It's just you getting assblasted over someone shitting on a game you like with your own standards.

              >cherrypicking data points that ignore the greater context of the issues at hand
              Cool, now post this "greater context" instead of shitposting.

              >make it seem like I think anyone who disagrees with me is arguing in bad faith
              That's effectively what you're doing.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Deflection to Gen 5 when it wasn't brought up is a dishonest reaction to criticism of Gen 6. I'm sorry you're a colossal retard and can't comprehend that, or you're lying and pretending that it's somehow a valid defense of Gen 6's issues to suddenly divert all discussion to Gen 5's issues instead. For your second point greater context depends entirely on the topic at hand, the only topic at hand is me explaining that sperms almost exclusively argue in bad faith. It would be up to you to provide a topic, not for me to provide context for every argument ever made on the subject of Gen 6. Me pointing out that you blatantly strawmanned my statement is not a bad faith argument, it's me pointing out that you strawmanned me. But since you've now made it abundantly clear you're either a retard or a troll, have your last (You) from me.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Deflection to Gen 5 when it wasn't brought up is a dishonest reaction to criticism of Gen 6
                No it isn't. I'm simply agreeing with you that both Gen 5 and 6 have bad pacing.

                >not for me to provide context for every argument ever made on the subject of Gen 6.
                i.e. you won't actually post this supposed ""context"" and ""nuance"" and you expect everyone to magically agree with you even though you post zero evidence to back up your claims. And when people post evidence that goes against your point, you just accuse them of cherrypicking. Hilarious.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Gen 6 is the tragic gen. You're allowed to criticize it but only if you actually enjoyed it, otherwise it's bullying the forsakened.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    xy are bad because they don't have Incineroar

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    XY is bad because Diantha has a shit team.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Still waiting for a Kalos vs Johto comparison.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    BW
    >gym 1
    routes and rival battles
    >gym 2
    route, plasma battles, rival battles
    >gym 3
    fossil theft, plasma battles in the city
    >gym 4
    route (lol), rival battles
    >gym 5
    rival battle, cheren and bianca development, route (lol), cold storage
    >gym 6
    route, cave with grunts, rival battle, route, tower
    >gym 7
    cave, rival battle
    >gym 8
    tower with grunts, relic castle, route
    >credits
    route, rival battle, victory road, E4, N

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >just routes lmao!
      Unova had off beaten paths to explore, of which XY had less of. Simplifying something doesn’t mean it was actually simple.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >of which XY had less of
        source?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If you need someone else to count places on a map for you, it's time to stop posting.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            If you need someone else to provide your argument for you, it's time to stop posting.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              bulbapedia exists

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                having arguments exists

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Thinking that someone can read easily obtainable information independently is not expecting an argument to be made. The argument had already been made. If you want to see the evidence, you can in minutes with a quick search.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >Thinking that someone can read easily obtainable information independently is not expecting an argument to be made
                Yes it is.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It literally isn't. If I say
                >10 is more than 5
                I don't need a source to make it an argument. The claim has been made, and can be fact-checked quickly if you choose to refuse to believe it. Basic obtainable information does not need evidence beyond the statement itself, because it is easily understandably correct.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                10 being more than 5 is common knowledge. Routes in a video game aren’t.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So those who need a source just didn’t play the game and therefore aren’t able to criticize them by claiming their opinion about them is at all grounded. Got it.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              having arguments exists

              >Thinking that someone can read easily obtainable information independently is not expecting an argument to be made
              Yes it is.

              Y'know I was gonna disagree with

              It literally isn't. If I say
              >10 is more than 5
              I don't need a source to make it an argument. The claim has been made, and can be fact-checked quickly if you choose to refuse to believe it. Basic obtainable information does not need evidence beyond the statement itself, because it is easily understandably correct.

              but now that I see what it's about, I've changed my mind, you're actually retarded, no they do not need to provide a fucking source as to how many areas there are in a video game, you are capable of counting to double digit numbers you lazy illiterate retard. KYS for actually dying on this hill

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Gen 1 Optional Areas
          >Total: 8

          Gen 2 Optional Areas
          >Total: 56

          Gen 3 Optional Areas
          >Total: 30

          Gen 4 Optional Areas
          >Total: 39

          Gen 5 Optional Areas
          >Total: 47

          Gen 6 Optional Areas
          >Total: 10

          Gen 7 Optional Areas
          >Total: 32

          Gen 8 Optional Areas
          >Total: 48

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Gen 2 Optional Areas: 56

            BUH BUH BUH BUH BUH BASEDDDDD

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Gen 2 Optional Areas
            : 56
            That's absolutely nuts. I love gen 2 but that number sounds way too high, so do a lot of the others for that matter, I gotta ask for details on your criteria here

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Most of Kanto is optional, isn't it?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Fair point, no idea why but I wasn't thinking of Kanto

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                by this logic you may as well call the entire game optional.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sources

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gen 1
            >Pewter museum of science
            >Fighting gym
            >cyling road or southeast Kanto
            >Seafoam Islands or Sea Route 21
            >power plant
            >Cerulean cave
            What else is there? This is already generous.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      source?

      >of which XY had less of
      source?

      Now imagine still thinking you’re not arguing out of bad faith

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're leaving a lot of optional stuff out, especially before gym 7. But even as you present it, that's good pacing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This sounds like every Pokemon game to me. More Rival battles than most, BW was pretty fuckin based with the Rivals/N.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    PSS was fantastic wtf are you on about. should've never been gutted along with dexnav

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's been years since I've ever played XY, but I remember very clearly that Team Flare was a wet fart.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >WAAAAAH MUH PACING
    sure is weird that I never hear this complaint about any other game even though two pairs of gyms can be done within literal minutes apart in RSE

    it’s almost like people are desperate to find reasons to fit XY into their “3D bad” circlejerk or something

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bitch, the story is fucking boring and none of the music is memorable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, it’s a non-gen 7 Pokemon game.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          S/M had decent enough writing, but it was heavily bogged down by the way they chose to represent said writing.
          There was barely any gameplay, it felt more like playing a movie than a game.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There was barely any gameplay,
            Why lie?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I played UM, I'm going by what my friends said and what I've seen online.
              If it's even a portion of what UM had, yeah, that is a bit heavy handed with the story telling there.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's a bit slow in tue beginning but after your first trial the Alola games don't have mich more than the usual rival/evil team battles and story events every 1 or 2 gyms (or trials in this case) I think it just feels like more because the island challenge and trials blend in to the story more than gyms in other games

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Gen 5 story and music mogs Gen 7’s incredibly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dude you don't seem to understand, the problem is how extreme the whiplash is. No pokemon game has as sheer of a difference in space between gyms. You go from 6 and a half routes, 2 cities, 2 towns, and 3 side areas, to 1 route and a side area.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >muh whiplash
        Why should I care if the total amount of content is the same?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          If it doesn't bother you then genuinely good for you, all the more power to you, but clearly that sorta thing bothers a good amount of people, myself included. If they weren't gonna follow through on the supremely good, slowburn pace that they set at the start then they shouldn't have set it to begin with. It's as if the game is designed to being disappointing. It's not just gyms, but story beats and even rival battles very rapidly pick up in the mid game for seemingly no reason and it just makes the games feel bad to progress through. I'm not expecting you to suddenly agree or even really understand where I'm coming from, but if reading this prompts you to say that everyone else shouldn't care about that then I have nothing else to say, sometimes people just care about different things and that means you're never gonna quite get why the way they feel the way they do.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >it's designed to be disappointing because I bought a $40 pokemon game and expected it to have 90 routes for some reason

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Gen 1
              >Pewter museum of science
              >Fighting gym
              >cyling road or southeast Kanto
              >Seafoam Islands or Sea Route 21
              >power plant
              >Cerulean cave
              What else is there? This is already generous.

              by this logic you may as well call the entire game optional.

              too bad xy is still faster so it doesn't matter anyway

              >Can I just say that it's fucking hilarious how much of a [FANFIC] Korrina is?

              maybe one day people will find problems with XY that are based in objective reality
              maybe one day

              [...]
              >gameplay mechanics, enjoyable features, removed battle modes
              where

              >static flying models
              you don't know what "static" means

              retard, stop being retarded

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    damn I always thought this but I never realized it was such a popular opinion. A couple random nice locations like the fallen leaves route and anistar. I always have a pretty good time starting over x y and then always fall off by the time I get to the grass gym

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >gameplay mechanics, enjoyable features, removed battle modes
    where

    >static flying models
    you don't know what "static" means

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who are you arguing against schizo

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