Why is it legal to design packaging that purposefully destroys the contained product to force people to buy more?

Why is it legal to design packaging that purposefully destroys the contained product to force people to buy more?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you need the goverment to baby you into not buying bad products?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you don't want the government involved he should be able to physically harm the retailer in retribution for selling him the bad product without legal repercussions as well.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >if the government shouldn't do everything, it shouldn't do anything

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          assuring the quality of goods has been around since the dawn of civilization and government dumbfuck

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >assuring the quality of goods has been around since the dawn of civilization and government dumbfuck
            Not really. Assuring the quality of goods has been spotty throughout history but generally it was below a ruler's notice. Generally speaking a ruler would only get involved if someone died. For example, in the Code of Hammurabi, if a house builder made a house that collapsed and killed your son, the builder's son would be killed in response, or that you could be fined for stealing sheep. But the Code of Hammurabi does not specify a punishment for selling rotten dates or intentionally mismeasuring the weight of grains. I'm not saying that this was some kind of libertarian ancap paradise, in fact in this kind of power vacuum, social power dominated. Instead of relying on governments, clan elders wielded tremendous shame-based power. Imagine if you will an individual merchant getting "cancelled" for failing to provide a refund for shoddy goods.

            In later societies, Guilds took on this function because, again, local judges and barons had no interest. Guilds also were social mechanisms that ensured quality of goods in exchange for keeping prices high.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complaint_tablet_to_Ea-nasir#:~:text=Ea%2Dnasir%20travelled%20to%20Dilmun,sub%2Dstandard%20and%20not%20accepted.

              Seems like the urbanite culture was different enough you couldn't cancel a Ganker-tier scammer merchant.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                to be fair they didn't have Ganker to realise what tier he was

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the government should let you get scammed but prevent you from retaliating against the scammer

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, the government holds a monopoly on force.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And that's a bad thing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you're government does not have a monopoly of force in your area then someone else does and it almost certainly isn't you

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >is-ought

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Governments only exist to help the top tier of society extract wealth from the plebs. This has been the case since the start of civilization.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I love the taste of boot leather, just as long as they make me pay $19.99 a month for the privilege

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >If the government shouldn't do anything, it shouldn't do anything

          Fixed that for you. Can't have it both ways you fat gay baby

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no... no... i think you're onto something but not going after the retailer... instead go after the actual company. there should be no repercussion for attacking the CEO of any company.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If you don't want the government involved he should be able to physically harm the retailer in retribution for selling him the bad product without legal repercussions as well.

          >I made bad choices so I should be able to sperg out and harm people.

          Literal down syndrome logic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The virgin CEO fears the chad Downie.
            >He shakes with barely contained fear when he drives past an adult day-centre

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It used to be that people who sold shitty or harmful products were lynched. Consumer protection laws are the compromise.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bike cuck logic
            Criminals deserve to be raped, explain to me why I can't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I should go harm people because I'm not happy with the construction of a product they sold me

        Maybe stop being a psychopath first

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is that perportional? You are out 10 bucks now you want to physically harm someone?
        So a slap on the wrist? I doubt you have the restraint.
        Who am I kidding I doubt you have the balls to do it let alone not have the manufacturer beat you into earth while you try.

        https://i.imgur.com/euBq3FJ.png

        Why is it legal to design packaging that purposefully destroys the contained product to force people to buy more?

        Here is an idea, maybe sell a better product or stop buying a bad one. You dumb heebe

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          One guy may be out 10 bucks, but the sleezy manufacturer has already made millions on the thousands of guys having to rebuy intentionally poor products. That alone I feel is worth a kick in the dick,

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        based. as. fuck.

        The only correct response to libertards is to remind them of the logical consequences of their bullshit.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You think libertarians are against being allowed to shoot people who violate the NAP by sabotaging goods they sold you?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You mean the manufacturer. The retailer is a middle man, though they should be somewhat responsible for the quality of the items they're selling.

        based. as. fuck.

        The only correct response to libertards is to remind them of the logical consequences of their bullshit.

        Libertarians treat an attack on their property to be equivalent to an attack on their person.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >"every drop of sweat and blood has a price on it"
          Yes, to a libertarian property is person because property is bought and paid for with suffering of the person, everything you own had a cost in sweat and blood.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. People forget that the entire implication of laws is the threat of violence

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If I'm paying them, they could at least work for me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I still have more than a dozen usable black octagonal paint pots. The white lids are decent. Almost nothing I've bought in the new clear lids has lasted more than a year. Even paints that seemed fine will be a solid lump when I go to use them again.

        There's no reason to purchase GW paints and I always recommend people to get into alternates.

        I dare you to buy a pot of corax white next time you get the chance. It'll be dry in the pot, sealed.

        [...]
        >yet you don't seem to do anything about it
        I did. I stopped buying them. Again, white tops and black tops are still fine. I treat them all the same.

        [...]
        I hear lots of good stuff about AK. Some really nice grimy effects from it.

        [...]
        There is literally a scoop that dumps paint into into the lid and hinge, wasting paint you need to clean up at best and gumming it up so the whole pot dries out at worst.

        How is it even possible to be this stupid?
        Are you guys literally underage?
        Or did your dads never show you how to properly maintain the things you buy?

        It's like you're asking to be scammed and buttfucked by any company going
        >does this happen to you too?
        >well not with OUR product
        Just because you never learned to properly use tools. I refuse to believe that this isn't a bait thread, and OP ruined his pot on purpose. I refuse to believe that people are actually that stupid and NPC like.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >properly use tools
          The tool shouldn't be designed to destroy itself so you have to buy new tools. I shouldn't need to compensate for that. If someone designs tools like that, that is anti-social behavior and they should be imprisoned.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Just don't open the pot too far. It really isn't hard. Or just use a pallette if you don't like using the little scooper.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A truly staggering number have no idea how to use or care for tools. I have seen people leave axes outside in the open and complain when they're rusty come spring. I have literally watched coworkers use the edge of a razor knife to tighten screws rather than walk 5 feet to get a screwdriver, or even turn the knife around and use the back of the blade.

          Just yesterday my boss had to adjust a hex screw. So he used a hammer and slotted screwdriver and is now very upset that the machine no longer works.

          People are dumb.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Then stop buying shit

        The whole reason why citadel continues to make shit is because people keep buying it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        True, but the solution in this case is to not pay them. There are other brands of paints available.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because there's literally billions of products and you can't research all of them while also living the rest of your life

      it's easier to pay someone to do it, so just use your taxes to pay for it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or we could watch product review channels on youtube that synthesize hours of research into minutes instead of the government killing people to collect blood money and throwing it around to support their favorite corporations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wat

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you need the "goverment" to baby you into not getting raped by your uncle as a child, you little gay?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The government can't stop your uncle from raping you though, it can only maybe punish him for doing so.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          threat of punishment is a deterrent tho

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If they imprison a criminal they stop that criminal committing further crimes

            You're still not unraped.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If they imprison a criminal they stop that criminal committing further crimes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        only the victim having a gun can stop a rape. There's absolutely nothing any government anywhere in the world can do. That's why they keep trying to hide muslim rapes, because they don't want their citizens arming themselves.

        And you're a retarded rape-bait gay if you can't be bothered to buy good products and expect the ogvernment to hold your dick when they can't even protect you from rape.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The government can't prevent that unless it maybe goes full 1984. Somethings are the responsibility of the family, then the state can step in

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because good things are good and bad things are bad
      what the fuck is wrong with you

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Avoid a race to the bottom

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OP is a bad example but we absolutely need the government to pass and actually enforce laws explicitly against corporation/banks/ect. all collectively driving down the quality of life for the common man in blind pursuit of profit. Take renting in a big city for example. Most people are putting at least 40% or more of their paycheck into rent and utilities. They can't find a cheaper apartment because the financial cartels that own all the apartment complexes aren't actually competing with each other and there really are no cheaper places to live for that person. They could get a job in a different state with cheaper real estate but the entire industry they work in has decided to pay people in that state less because the cost of living is lower, so their quality of life doesn't actually go up. People are basically locked into participating in a dogshit economy intentionally designed to suck up every last scrap of excess wealth the working class has and bootlickers will defend it because they genuinely believe corporations with colossal amounts of money and power should have the same rights as the working class.

      Compared to the above, GW pots are small beans but there absolutely be a law against making dogshit products on purpose.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >OP is a bad example but we absolutely need the government to pass and actually enforce laws explicitly against corporation/banks/ect.
        Not going to happen because governments and corpos are one and the same. They are those same people, this same clique. There is no difference between them and they directly work with and aid each other. You would need laws and actions to explicitly target by name particular corpos with no way for them to weasel their way out of your reach. Like simply stating that Microsoft, and only Microsoft, needs to pay X amount of money and stop doing Y or else. And if a corpo like this somehow will actually get targeted by government lol they will run away to work with different government.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they will run away to work with different government.
          People forget how giant of a consumer base America is. Microsoft, to continue your example, absolutely cannot maintain their profits if they shut themselves out of the American market. Even if the US does wise up and start imposing restrictions on them, it's still more profit than packing up and going to China or Russia.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Corporations and banks brrak laws because they are orotevted by the government. Gov. intervantion only ever effects small businesses.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the solution is going full commie
        Or you could buy Tamiya instead of fucking over everyone and regressing society 200 years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fraud and scams should be crushed with government force

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We'd have to invade mainland China and India to even put a dent in the scamming industry

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Fraud and scams should be crushed with government force

        We'd have to invade mainland China and India to even put a dent in the scamming industry

        >We'd have to invade mainland China and India to even put a dent in the scamming industry
        Good luck convincing American politicians to betray their lobby sponsors.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The government is formed to protect our rights, including the right of having a free system of commerce.
      Selling defective products, specially in bad faith, is an infringement on the right of free trading.
      To be clear before some commie midwits jump in, "Free" in this context doesn't mean "I can do whatever I want to make money", that would mean robbing a bank would be a form of "free" trade. Free here means voluntary and consensual, and without aggression or coercion from either parties. Lying or deceiving about a trade is a form of aggression, so such trade can't be considered truly "free".
      Your point is not entirely wrong, there are many ways we can protect our rights ourselves, and that is usually more cost-effective. But how much we can do it ourselves is defined by society, and sometimes it may be more cost-effective to use government regulations to make it easier for us all. It's all about a sweet spot and what works.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FPBP. Buy product that isn't overpriced and garbage. For the few worth the price point, put it in a container that isn't garbage. Don't be a paypig.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anarchism on a mass industrial scale wouldn't work.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    op is a gay but I DO hate how gw paint pots are made. you have to open them *so* carefully with some of the watery-er ones. If you aren't they splash everywhere and half your pot is just gone.
    They don't seal super well either. Their only redeeming quality is you can make cute little ork mechs out of them when you're done.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Youre a fucking retard. Scrape off the dried paint under the lid and then paint from a pallette to stop splashing paint everywhere like a parkinsons riddled spastic. The current gen of GW pots are fine and far better than previous. The only way they could go better is by going to dropper bottles really.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I still have more than a dozen usable black octagonal paint pots. The white lids are decent. Almost nothing I've bought in the new clear lids has lasted more than a year. Even paints that seemed fine will be a solid lump when I go to use them again.

      There's no reason to purchase GW paints and I always recommend people to get into alternates.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Almost nothing I've bought in the new clear lids has lasted more than a year.
        Well mine are okay, so I can only assume you're doing it wrong.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I dare you to buy a pot of corax white next time you get the chance. It'll be dry in the pot, sealed.

          Never happened to me once. Literally a (you) problem.

          So this happens to you constantly apparently, yet you don't seem to do anything about it? Like not doing whatever it is your doing with your paints? Or at least cleaning them if you get Paint all over the rims?

          I'm honestly baffled at how dysfunctional you appear to be. Not only are you too retarded to take care of your paints, but you also thought it's worth making a thread to showcase how retarded you are.

          >yet you don't seem to do anything about it
          I did. I stopped buying them. Again, white tops and black tops are still fine. I treat them all the same.

          >I always recommend people to get into alternates
          Aside from Vallejo what good paints are out there? The only decent thing from GW are shades, and they barely worth dealing with new shitty pots.

          I hear lots of good stuff about AK. Some really nice grimy effects from it.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I dare you to buy a pot of corax white next time you get the chance. It'll be dry in the pot, sealed.
            Corax white is one of my favourite paints, and it's been fine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            P3 is good, broadly comparable to GW.
            army painter are alright, fine if thats what your FLGS stocks but i wouldn't bother ordering it online when you could get the others.
            Heard decent things about reaper and two thin coats, but haven't had a chance to try them.

            Thanks mates, will they them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I always recommend people to get into alternates
              Aside from Vallejo what good paints are out there? The only decent thing from GW are shades, and they barely worth dealing with new shitty pots.

              AK > S75 = Vallejo > Citadel > GW
              Turbo dork for funny meme metallics

              Only tried army painter speedpaints which were good, thier primer sucks. Havent tried two thin coats, p3 or proacrly yet

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is Reaper's paint line still any good?
                I cut my teeth on their learn to paint kits when they were still metal minis instead of bones. Lasted a good long time. Still the best red I ever used.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AK > S75 = Vallejo
                AK are really that good? What are they best at?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Consistent colours, good coverage, very matte.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Definitely will try them, thanks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >AK are really that good?
                I would not call them superior to Scalecolor and are thinner so you get effectively less usable paint. Both are matte and good quality. I would take Scalecolor artist over AK, for others, it depens on the particular paint and what is locally available.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Reaper (real nice but like to reactivate unless dried overnight)
                >Scale75 (super smooth, real nice metals, can need more coats to cover but feels deliberate)
                >P3 formula/PP (basically the OG GW paints down to the pots, great except for their metals which suck)
                >Army Painter (decent but very inconsistent quality)

                AK makes stuff comparable or better than Vallejo imo, but Scalecolor takes the cake for having the best range overall. Never used something from theirs that wasn't a joy to use.

                For shades though I just use Army Painter's stuff, but only if I'm too lazy to use an oil wash at that moment.

                I have used these for years with good results alongside with Vallejo.
                https://gamescraft.co.uk/paints/miniature.html

                Thanks to you too, anons.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >buy a pot of corax white next time you get the chance. It'll be dry in the pot, sealed
            can confirm lol

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I dare you to buy a pot of corax white next time you get the chance. It'll be dry in the pot, sealed.
            What the fuck are you even doing you absolute moron.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Never happened to me once. Literally a (you) problem.

        So this happens to you constantly apparently, yet you don't seem to do anything about it? Like not doing whatever it is your doing with your paints? Or at least cleaning them if you get Paint all over the rims?

        I'm honestly baffled at how dysfunctional you appear to be. Not only are you too retarded to take care of your paints, but you also thought it's worth making a thread to showcase how retarded you are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I always recommend people to get into alternates
        Aside from Vallejo what good paints are out there? The only decent thing from GW are shades, and they barely worth dealing with new shitty pots.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          P3 is good, broadly comparable to GW.
          army painter are alright, fine if thats what your FLGS stocks but i wouldn't bother ordering it online when you could get the others.
          Heard decent things about reaper and two thin coats, but haven't had a chance to try them.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly, most brands are perfectly serviceable these days. All of them are going to have some paints that stand out and some that are bad. Odds are, your local store is going to have like 3-4 brands and you're going to end up cherry picking the good stuff out of them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            When your bottom line is Vallejo most other paints you try feel worse to by honest.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Not a big fan of Vallejo besides their metal colors range.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I had always heard Vallejo was the best option for the price for a looong time. Is that no longer the case?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It is by no means bad, especially for the price. There are just other paints that work better. Except for metal colors, vallejo metal colors are baller.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Reaper (real nice but like to reactivate unless dried overnight)
          >Scale75 (super smooth, real nice metals, can need more coats to cover but feels deliberate)
          >P3 formula/PP (basically the OG GW paints down to the pots, great except for their metals which suck)
          >Army Painter (decent but very inconsistent quality)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          AK makes stuff comparable or better than Vallejo imo, but Scalecolor takes the cake for having the best range overall. Never used something from theirs that wasn't a joy to use.

          For shades though I just use Army Painter's stuff, but only if I'm too lazy to use an oil wash at that moment.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have used these for years with good results alongside with Vallejo.
          https://gamescraft.co.uk/paints/miniature.html

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Almost nothing I've bought in the new clear lids has lasted more than a year
        Make sure the lid is all the way down when you shut it. I haven't had any issues except for one pot of red when I didn't click the lid all the way down.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Never happened to me once. Literally a (you) problem.

      So this happens to you constantly apparently, yet you don't seem to do anything about it? Like not doing whatever it is your doing with your paints? Or at least cleaning them if you get Paint all over the rims?

      I'm honestly baffled at how dysfunctional you appear to be. Not only are you too retarded to take care of your paints, but you also thought it's worth making a thread to showcase how retarded you are.

      There is literally a scoop that dumps paint into into the lid and hinge, wasting paint you need to clean up at best and gumming it up so the whole pot dries out at worst.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how do you get that scoop to dump paint into the hinge? if you just open the pot and let it sit it doesn't do that.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It did this back with the old pots. It was very common to peel the ring of dried paint off.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how do you get that scoop to dump paint into the hinge? if you just open the pot and let it sit it doesn't do that.

        It will do that if you open it too far. I learned that pretty fast. The scoop is actually there to hold your paint for you. You want to open it (carefully), bend the lid to the side slightly so it wont close, and leave it open enough that the scoop won't drool all over the hinge but can drain back into the pot.

        The scoop is there for you to dip your brush into and get a more controlled amount of paint!
        I still think its fucking retarded, but that's how I manage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        GW has had the scoop since I got into Warhammer in 2003, anon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its literally so easy to avoid

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Never happened to me once. Literally a (you) problem.

      So this happens to you constantly apparently, yet you don't seem to do anything about it? Like not doing whatever it is your doing with your paints? Or at least cleaning them if you get Paint all over the rims?

      I'm honestly baffled at how dysfunctional you appear to be. Not only are you too retarded to take care of your paints, but you also thought it's worth making a thread to showcase how retarded you are.

      how do you get that scoop to dump paint into the hinge? if you just open the pot and let it sit it doesn't do that.

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      How is it even possible to be this stupid?
      Are you guys literally underage?
      Or did your dads never show you how to properly maintain the things you buy?

      It's like you're asking to be scammed and buttfucked by any company going
      >does this happen to you too?
      >well not with OUR product
      Just because you never learned to properly use tools. I refuse to believe that this isn't a bait thread, and OP ruined his pot on purpose. I refuse to believe that people are actually that stupid and NPC like.

      Just don't open the pot too far. It really isn't hard. Or just use a pallette if you don't like using the little scooper.

      I have literally never had this problem

      It's inevitable: whenever you complain about a problem like this, pencil-dicked mental peasants will crawl out of the woodwork to flex about how they themselves are so above such problems, and that you are inferior to them for experiencing them. It's an opportunity their weak egos just can't pass up.

      I've been painting miniatures for over 25 years, and the modern GW pots are hands-down the worst I've ever worked with. Anyone claiming that they're meticulous enough in cleaning their pots after EVERY painting session to avoid this issue is absolutely full of shit - and deserves to die writhing in mind-shattering agony for such chickenshit arrogance.

      To even have a chance of avoiding GW paint pot smegma forming, you'd have to wait for the paint to settle for several minutes after shaking before opening it. You'd have to avoid closing & opening it repeatedly (something you'd do to avoid it drying out when using it for a while), and then you'd have to clean the underside of the lid shelf (where more paint will inevitably accumulate) before closing it for the session.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Could you be more of a complaining gay if you tried?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >it's a "op is too retarded to take care of his paints" episode

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      beGONE kpop scum

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm switching over to picrel. Drop bottles, a glass agitator in every bottle, and nice dense pigments. They're also cool in that they use normal color names instead of fantasy shit. GW doesn't educate painters on stuff like warm vs cool colors.

      I've had Gee Dubs paints dry up on me before they were even used once.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm replacing my vallejo paints with pro acryl as I'm using them up. Fiance got me the starter set for christmas and they are very nice. Thin easily on the palette and they airbrush nicely as well. The white is great, even the black/dark neutral grey primers are nice. Only color I do not like is orange, not sure if I got a bad bottle but no matter how much I shake it the paint is always runny, unlike every other color that is nice and gel.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm switching over to picrel. Drop bottles, a glass agitator in every bottle, and nice dense pigments. They're also cool in that they use normal color names instead of fantasy shit. GW doesn't educate painters on stuff like warm vs cool colors.

          I've had Gee Dubs paints dry up on me before they were even used once.

          Pic related from /wip/, my airbrushed coats with pro acryl. Dark camo green/green, burnt red/bold pyrrole red, dark grey blue/blue dark color base coats with brighter color zenithal. Dark warm flesh on the bellies then light flesh from above. Rest will be brush work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Came here to post this. Lovely stuff. The range is a bit small but I like them more than Vallejo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only retarded thing op did was buying paints from GW.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >hate current GW pots
    >also hate dropper bottles
    What's a line of paint with good pots? Or shit, are there stand alone high quality paint pots? I'd rather transfer paint from dropper bottles to pots than the other way around.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's a line of paint with good pots?
      GW is the only one with pots as far as I know.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        P3, Tamiya, Revell. Warcolors has a line of Nostalgia paints in old style pots too.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fuck tamiyas pots though, god those screw caps are aweful.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Coat d'Arms (read: 80s/90s GW paints) does pots.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there WERE several different brands around 2014 but I don't remember what any of them were. I might like to know as well.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unfortunately pretty much everyone else is droppers. P3 manages to have even worse pots than GW.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      'warcolours nostalgia 88'

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      P3 pots are p. gud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What is the problem with dropper bottles?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        - Sometimes paint dries in the nozzle which is a way bigger pain in the ass to clean than paint in the rim, even if less is wasted. They should be designed to be stored upside down.

        - I like to pretend I am a mystical wizard bringing small clay golems to life with various ambix containing exotic magical ingredients refined into pigment.

        I think my solution is to just get a bunch of nice glass pots + agitators, then deposit a portion of a dropper bottle into them in case the nozzle is one day required. Then I could have whole pots of consistent mixtures I like and give them esoteric fantasy labels like "Dragon Dung" or "Fairy Nipple Pink".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I like to pretend I am a mystical wizard bringing small clay golems to life with various ambix containing exotic magical ingredients refined into pigment.
          That's awesome. I hope you find the pots you're looking for, anon. Enjoy painting.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sometimes paint dries in the nozzle
          Just pop off the nozzle and jam through it with a toothpick under running, warm water. Easy as.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >find out it's blocked after I've shaken it and given it a gentle squeeze so I have to wait for the paint to flow back down from the nozzle
            >have to get a toothpick
            >have to get up and go run it under the sink while I jab it
            vs
            >discover paint dried in pot rim
            >force it open then peel off in one satisfying strip
            Pots are clearly lower effort. But I'd rather just store my dropper bottles upside down so paint can't dry in the nozzle in the first place and get better pots so my rims don't get crusty either.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Have you considered trying to develop your perfect paint container and marketing it? There are probably other people who feel like you do.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly I was just going to get something I can hook into a siphon fed airbrush. Swappable lids would be nice, and you'd only need 1 siphon lid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The perfect container already exists.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This probably wouldn't work for average acrylic paint consistency.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >This probably wouldn't work for average acrylic paint consistency.
                Except every major art company sells acrylic paint in tubes exactly like that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Those are thick bodied paints meant for canvas painting

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I use their white and it works pretty good on miniatures.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That GW is way to expensive to peel it.
              It took my like 30 minutes to transfer all my paints to dropper bottles. If you got an airbrush, highly recommend for contrast paints

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You're overcomplicating dropper bottles. Never had one jam, and whatever paint might dry and get stuck to the nozzle is easily removed with a paper towel. Do you leave them without a cork on or what?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >storing them sideways or upside down so paint doesn't leave nozzle, preventing any paint stuck there from drying out
                >overcomplicated
                I've had Reaper and Valejo dry on me depending on the paint. It's not rocket science, a bunch of adhesives have caps they can stand on for this reason.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If they're drying for you, it ain't fucking working sonny. Close the caps and store them like a normal person.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                ESL, I'm saying that nozzles DON'T dry on me anymore because I store them so that wet paint remains there instead of settling in the bottom. I close the cap every time, it won't stop paint down in the nozzle from drying if the bottle is upright and the wet paint is heading down. Reaper is especially notorious for this with some viscous paints and this paint catching crossbar.

                I'm not sure what you're having a hard time grasping here, how gravity works or do you think I'm making this shit up?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      coat d'arms and nostalgia '88

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >coat d'arms
        Which one of their colors is closest to goblin green? I have a ton of bases I want to paint in that shade for nostalgia purposes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Which one of their colors is closest to goblin green? I have a ton of bases I want to paint in that shade for nostalgia purposes
          ...Goblin green, anon. It's the same company who used to do GWs colours in the 90s.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm fucking retarded. Thanks

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about Duncan two thin coats

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, which dropper bottles buy so I can transfer my Citadel paints to them?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not in my country 🙂

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >current year
    >still getting scammed by GW
    You should know better than trust those hacks.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Companies should be thwarted if they try to make smart decisions.
    >Consumers should be reimbursed if they are incapable or incompetent.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you don't like it buy the same paints from the countless competency brands. Is that easy
    You don't owe anything to GW, you don't need to buy their products if you aren't satisfied with them

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally every source online and by word of mouth told me that, while overpriced, i can trust on Citadel paints.
    Please tell me i didnt get memed….

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Man, that paint jar lip is so convenient"

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have literally never had this problem

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Though i agree that there should be regulations in place to prevent artificial aging (i think that’s what it’s called when companies do this) i don’t really see it as such a large problem when it comes to paints, as GW by no means have a monopoly of the miniature paint market much less the paint market as a whole. There’s a wealth of options out there which are not only cheaper but also better in almost every regard, vote with your wallet.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm going to vote with the ballot box instead and vote to imprison people who abuse the trust of society to hawk broken goods

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who exactly is running on the "imprison dudes who make funny paint pots" platform?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Me

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, he has my vote at least.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do think that shitadel pots suck but for something like that picture to happen you have to be either cartoonishly negligent or intentionally letting it happen

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy vallejo

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    like everyone else complaining about the new citadel bottles in this thread i have no physical evidence whatsoever to show why i dont like them and why they were better back in the days but you just have to take my word for it
    i do have 1 bottle of dark angels green ink but they don´t count, if the real paints would last 20+ years we can assume inks will last easily another 80

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it even good to store paints in transparent pots?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The plastic would block a lot of the UV that could degrade the paint. Acrylics are pretty good for colour and gloss retention, but that's once cured.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Has anyone tried duncan’s two thin coats paints?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also the little tab on the new pots in the hinge that's supposed to hold it open is occasionally bent, weak, or breaks off entirely, making the entire design completely pointless. These paints are designed to be more wasteful so timmy has to buy more. And if you're defending it, you're a timmy too.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >buying overpriced paints for the geedubs branding
    play stupid games, win stupid prizes

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just save them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tasty snack for when you are painting 🙂

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >design shitty products
    >force you to buy more

    Surely that’s forcing you to buy less, right? How is a product not meeting expectations an incentive to buy more? Are you retarded?

    Gotta love the bugmen asking the government to save them from poor consumer choices, making rape/assault comparisons etc. Funny how these people will demand more funding for public services whilst also proposing additional extremely frivolous uses of tax revenue. Almost like they have no idea how anything works.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Funny how these people will demand more funding for public services whilst also proposing additional extremely frivolous uses of tax revenue. Almost like they have no idea how anything works.
      we could always
      you know
      tax the rich (actually tax them [actually actually tax them])

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he thinks the public would actually SEE any of this additional tax money
        Lol
        lmao even
        Sorry friend, we need it to blow up brown people and pump raytheons stock price

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we need it to blow up brown people
          hopefully the yellow ones soon too

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't buy bad products.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Picrelated is GW salarymen shills ITT

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk I like the pots. droppers clog up more often and I don't have as much control over the amount of paint I get out

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >droppers don't let me control the paint I get out
      How much fucking more control do you need than ONE FUCKING DROP AT A TIME?!?!?!? It even gives you that drop without exposing the rexst of yourgoddamned paint pot to the air and causing it to start curing before ever being used.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even /if/ by some miracle of bad luck a dropper tip managed to get clogged with dry paint, you lose about one drop of material anf unclogging it would be as simple as sticking a safety pin through it.
        Whereas citadel shit loses you enough paint to base a squad and takes an acrobatic attempt at picking it off with your fingers while not dropping dry chunks into your pot, which the whole while you are doing this is open and exposing the contents to the air

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Droppers are superior, easier to mix colors as well

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >consumerism
    >designed obsolescence
    In that order

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I moved over to army painter and vallejo, the gw pots were much better back in the day.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would like to share with this thread the enlightening knowledge that you can be a leftist, indeed even a legitimate socialist, and still believe in free commerce.

    The thing is, there's free commerce, and then there's letting companies get away with being garden gnomes. Most of you stereotypical Americucks have simply been so brainwashed that you don't realise that's exactly what your beliefs enable, and you even get your cocks snipped to feed the cosmetic industry as a reward for your faith. America. Land of the garden gnomes, eternally cucked by blind consumerism, but you will never ever stop believing it's "freedom". It's beautiful.

    A socialist who has their head screwed on right actually believes in much greater personal freedom than any libertard. Freedom for the common man.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The only freedom lolberts care about is the freedom to lick the boots of rich people

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are the garden gnomes in the room with us right now?

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These paint pots suck so bad im just going to buy Vallejo exclusively from now on.
    Not being able to squeeze paint onto the pallet is a huge bitch, not worth it.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was a retail monkey at gw when the current line of paints was originally launched. I stole nearly every paint at least twice, and stil have most of them now in a decent state. SOME, however, are dried up and gone all shitty.
    I can pretty much attest that the ones that have gone all shitty are the ones I used where I left them open on the table while painting. The ones that are fine are the ones I opened up, put the paint on a pallette, and closed the lid.
    My conclusion is that it isn't the pots to blame, it's the person using them.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ea-nasir's paint is of perfectly acceptable quality.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of pseudo intellectuals outing themselves as completely detached from the consequences of their own actions (and from reality) in this thread

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Buying bad packaging
    >Continuing to buy product with bad packaging
    Nice retard filter

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like the problem is somewhere between the item and the chair. Happens a lot.
    There's a phrase about this that's been around for actually hundreds of years in legal form, let alone how long it has existed before that as common fucking sense.
    >look at thing before buy
    >investigate thing before buy using pocket portable super computer with thousands of years of human experience to draw upon in seconds
    >examine thing after buy
    >determine best methods using big brain or super computer
    >clean up after you paint

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wow you guys are idiots it's easy to use GW pots you just need to remember not to open the lid beyond 93.47° and leave it to drip for half an hour before starting to paint and thoroughly clean around the rim before closing the lid again it's not rocket science and before you say something stupid like
    >doesn't that mean you have multiple pots left open at once
    yes but if you were a capable person you could have 1,000,000 pots open for a week and never knock even one of them over the design is considered and perfected and better than dropper bottles because it has the GW logo on.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >painting directly from the pot like a savage

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >pot has a scoop you're supposed to paint from
        >but if you paint from it the pot breaks

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't paint from the pot you idiot. It is never a good idea in any form of painting.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            THEN WHY THE SCOOP ARSEHOLE?!?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Because its a bad idea you don't have to use. Shit's not complicated. They hand out paint palettes to kids for finger painting in preschool, you're suppose to have figured that out.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So we agree it's a shit design and you're just a contrarian?

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Corporations are allowed to do whatever the fuck they want. Your only role in life is to buy their products.

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