Why is it that when Castlevania did the whole metroidvania thing it sells well but if it's Metroid nobody gives a shit?

Why is it that when Castlevania did the whole metroidvania thing it sells well but if it's Metroid nobody gives a shit?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because melee combat is fun and ranged combat sucks.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because ranged combat is fun and melee combat sucks.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroid games struggle to find the fun in their mandatory backtracking and world design. You're never hit with an element of discovery and satisfaction, just "oh they want me to go through here to go back to here just so I can come back and go through here."

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this. retro snuck some fun into the prime games but before that it was sorely lacking.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've always found CV to be superior in atmosphere to Metroid and that goes a long way.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >it sells well
    lol
    lmao
    Castlevania games are lucky to break one million. Only like 3 ever did, and SotN was one of them, only reaching that through multiple rereleases.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This. Super Metroid sold 1.4 million
      SOTN sold only 700k on saturn+psx, only after re-releases on xbox and ps3 that reached 1millon 10 years later.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, exactly.
      Castlevania sells worse, though undeservedly since it's at least just as good as Metroid.

      https://i.imgur.com/XW2bZOL.jpg

      Why is it that when Castlevania did the whole metroidvania thing it sells well but if it's Metroid nobody gives a shit?

      The better question is why is it that shitty soulless indie trashoidcringias like Hollow Knight and Axiom Verge sell more than both series combined?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >widely accessible
        >had games in the past decade
        pretty hard to sell when you can't even be bothered with farting out a collection like crapcom

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Good post

      https://i.imgur.com/XW2bZOL.jpg

      Why is it that when Castlevania did the whole metroidvania thing it sells well but if it's Metroid nobody gives a shit?

      Shit OP with shit thread.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It has a lot more flexibility and variety. You can choose what kind of weapons you want to use that are all different but ranged weapons do still exist. You have magic spells, the sub weapons, there's just tons of ways to play the games the way you want to. Metroid has a regular shot and a charged shot, that's it.

    Customization makes it much more fun, especially when replaying it if you're not a speed run obsessed autist.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroid games sold much better than castlevania games. SOTN had mediocre sales compared to Super Metroid or Metroid Fusion.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroid has never once done metroidvania

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      this tbh

      metroid is pure

      Samus is a virgin and also my wife

      Alucard is a homosexual lol

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Metroid has never once done metroidvania
      What did he mean by this?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Metroid has never done the "vania" part of Metroidvania

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          every mobile metroid game

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because sci-fi is for autistic children while campy Gothic horror is for well adjusted literature fans
    And the gameplay is better

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Turns out late 1800 gothic fantasy is more enjoyable than science fiction.
    Castlevania has iconic monster and boss designs while Metroid is still mostly stuck with Kraid and Ridley.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >a bunch of people glued to a ball
      >iconic boss design

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        behold...iconic boss design

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          That shit from halo

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >halo
            https://www.metroidwiki.org/wiki/Phazon_Elite

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Legion is kino
        I can't think of one Metroid boss that looks good or has cool lore

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          raven beak

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          metroid has a literal brain in a jar both series has some lame designs

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Turns out late 1800 gothic fantasy is more enjoyable than science fiction.
      >Castlevania has iconic monster and boss designs while Metroid is still mostly stuck with Kraid and Ridley.

      Nah, Metroid evolved with Prime games. Castlevania got stucked on metroidvania, 3d castlevanias was always mediocre until LOS which was more closer to GOW rather than anything related to castlevania.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        castlevania unironically evolved into demon's souls and dark souls

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nah, castlevania is still castlevania. Demon Souls and Dark Souls is mostly Zelda meets Kings Field.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >instead of bangin tracks all the time it's silence 95% the time
          no

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Metroid is still mostly stuck with Kraid and Ridley.
      Castlevania is still stuck on Rondo Sprites, I mean, they even reuse SNES sprites on DS games.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Metroid feels more impersonal even with overarching lore, mostly thanks to Samus being silent in a majority of the games. Castlevania meanwhile has defined characters with personalities and they all play slightly different from each other in their respective games (that's not including the widely different mechanics in them). Conversely in Metroid it's all Samus all the time.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Nintendo has always undersold the importance of having actual world building that is semi coherent.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        It should work since metroid games sold always better than castlevania games.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          thats fine, they were never better games and that's all that matters

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            how? the only good castlevania in metroidvania formula is SOTN and maybe aria/dawn of sorrow. all other games are very divisive and derivative, with the same sprites, reused art, etc.

            Remember Konami canned castlevania because after LOS2 it become a cursed IP while metroid is having a new renaissance

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              even the most divisive exploration castlevania is still more fun than the best metroid.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                sales dont say the same

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Sales =/= quality.
                You troons always argue in bad faith and spew bullshit like this.
                More people obviously like castlevania as thats multiplat, continues to get homages and -likes made of it.
                Where are all the metroid multiplats? Or all those metroid-like games?
                Face reality and facts. Metroid is a niche series.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Where are all the metroid multiplats?
                You can't be this moronic

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can play metroid on my xbox?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Where are all the metroid multiplats?

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >Remember Konami canned castlevania because after LOS2 it become a cursed IP
              that's one way of putting "making shit games for half a decade"

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    probably because literally the only reason anyone has ever cared about metroid is for the porn

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      OP I'm sure this was a drive by shitpost but in case you're around, I'm genuinely curious as to why you thought SotN/Castlevanias sold well (or better than Metroid at least)? Did something specific put that thought in your head, or are you just equating the large number of "Metroidvanias" spawned in style of SotN to the original game's own success?

      have a nice day doug

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >doug
        is this another one of those boogeymen that tendo tots come up like barry and assassins creed gay?

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    *deletes Prime shit*

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What's Ayami Kojima doing these days?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      She did the art for Bloodstained.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Is not her

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I know art for video games is just a side thing for her, so she's likely making art for her main audience.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroid doesn't have a b***hin cape

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I'm pretty sure Super Metroid sold way more than SoTN's OG release.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      thats nice stockholder

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Why does this game sell better.
        >It doesn't.
        >That's nice.
        Do you think about whatever half-idea is stewing in your brain for a second before shitting it out of your mouth?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          not op, dont care about sales

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            nice, no one cares about your opinion

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              too bad, your mom does.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                say my mom name... no?
                see? no one care, all is in your mind.

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    test

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Cuz you can frick around a lot more in SOTN. That's not to mention the game's presentation which remains one of the best ever in terms of 2D art and music.

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because people love RPG mechanics and finding loot. Castlevania is more accessible too, it's harder to get stuck in the game and you can grind if something is too difficult.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      When you backtrack in SOTN or the like, you've still got the RPG elements in play, so in the back of you're mind you're like "well I'll get more XP while I'm doing it, and maybe some enemies will drop me something rare" and shit.
      While in a metroid it's just "GOTTA GO BACK THERE AGAIN HUH" with nothing to gain on the way but more seconds on the clock unless you go poking at the same shit you poked at the first time, hoping maybe you just missed something.

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Shanoa is a better wife than that prostitute Samus.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      underrated woman

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      STUPID

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My sister spent $400 to send me the Saturn version for my birthday.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's genuinely sweet, you have a good sister. Growing up I've been really surprised by just how many people I know who hate their family deep down.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Who cares, they're all great games

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It at least, for sure has the better merch.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad about the shitty anime that normies praise.

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Castlevania gameplay at its peak is tight and precise. Your character has to dodge and weave through the enemies precise attack patterns, and they have the moves to do it. Metroid is wobbly and spammy, Samus controls like a wet noodle and wins with raw numbers.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Castlevania has better items collecting aspects, which is a major part of the Metroidvania appeal. Metroid feels more linear in general.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    rabi ribi is the best metroidvania ever made

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I can't call it the best just because the boss fight systems are not even remotely for everyone.
      It's damn good though, and extremely well planned out.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For one the Metroid franchise has only one good soundtrack (Super Metroid) while Castlevania might as well be the greatest videogame franchsie in regards to music

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Castlevania might as well be the greatest videogame franchsie in regards to music
      Oh come off it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What's untrue about that statement?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        filtered

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroidvania as a genre was created to encompass Castlevania games, it didn't include metroid until zoomed came and misunderstood everything. Thus, by definition, everything that leans more towards Metroid exclusively is a bad Metroidvania

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You mean the same zoomies who enforced that new metroidvanias should be SOULS LIKE!?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Metroidvania didn't include metroid
      dumbass Black person

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Metroid isn't so focused on collectables. Castlevania is dead anyway. You can't have a game about hating the Antichrist in 2022.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    For me, it’s Shadow Complex https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vBnHwVa63I8

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I think the main difference is that Castlevania added this entirely new concept of areas being puzzles in themselves and having areas like the library and making the entire castle feel like a single theme with just different rooms to explore. They also added the twist of there being a secret castle and ending and pushed you to explore to gain a percentage. to gain different endings that were genuinely different

    Metroid in comparison was fairly straightforward. each area once unlocked is backed finished apart from a few missile tanks or energy banks. you beat the boss and that's pretty much it move on to the next area and finish the game.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why are you trying to stealth a conflict between castlebros and metroidbros?? We are friends and should support one another

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Is bloodstained actually worth sticking with? The graphics make my eyes hurt and it seems pretty generic. which is weird for a game that should be top tier.

    I'm up to the first real boss but I feel like dropping it tbh.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      its The spiritual succesor

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      it looks like shit, the setting, characters and monster designs aren't anywhere near as interesting or charming as the real thing and soundtrack has to be one of the weakest yet
      besides those however it plays pretty much like DoS and about as close as we're ever getting to castlevania past 2010

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    why isn't orlok in other games

  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AAA

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Where can a homie play Harmony of Despair these days? Does anyone still play?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      what the frick is this shit sega

      there were threads a week ago

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