Why is Prey mooncrash good while Deathloop and Redfall aren't despite them taking heavy inspiration from it.
Why is Prey mooncrash good while Deathloop and Redfall aren't despite them taking heavy inspiration from it.
Why is Prey mooncrash good while Deathloop and Redfall aren't despite them taking heavy inspiration from it.
Who said Deathloop isn't good
nagger MC
Prey is chinkies
Ehrenarier
Cuck
>Deathloop fan calls people cucks
I'm willing to play a game with a nagger in it. Whereas you are okay with countries turning into Canada and Australia with shit loads of chinks coming into them. Yes cuck you're a cuck
Slovenian so not my problem X3
Nice arab DNA
Im part Serbian and Austrian i'll have you know
>:(
That's what you get for genociding the natives
Missed a few
i was fine playing games with women and naggers in them until i started hearing "MUH REPRESENTATION" as an excuse for shoehorning blacks, gays, etc. into every single IP.
now you have to represent me as a white man or i won't play your game. those are the rules.
If it’s an established character getting race changed then I would not play.
Original characters like Colt don’t bother me
colt wouldn't have bothered me 20 years ago but now he does because of all of the other race-swapping that happens
>REPRESENTATION MATTERS
okay fine if that's how we're gonna play then the overwhelming majority of people who play imsims are white men, so you'd damn well better represent us.
Neither of you are based
You both are massive homosexuals considering you don't actually give two fucks about the games themselves and only care about the race of the MC. You are literally the fucking cancer that is killing vidya with your obsession over culture war bullshit. Consider killing yourselves together in a double suicide since it's the only sure fire way you cocksuckers won't die alone
I give a fuck about Prey 🙁
Incorrect assumption. I played Prey and Deathloop. I critique those games and enjoyed aspects of both. I merely find it amusing that people hate nagger MCs but play as chinkies happily. Keep seething though
Morgan's mom is German.
Whitest Argentinian.
white males on Ganker have been pissing and shitting themselves about overwatch being 50+% non-white for years.
Males is such awkward language
idpol arguing points are artificial and serve only to divide the working class and prevent another occupy wallstreet.
I’ve been racist since before 2011 but okay
i'm sure as an experienced racist you've no doubt noticed fringe idpol talking points becoming mainstream since 2011.
i'm also sure you are capable of understanding that racism in general didn't really exist in antiquity, people were more concerned about which king or god you served and which social class you occupied.
racism just keeps the underclasses from building more guillotines.
It’s almost like racially homogenous civilisations don’t need to concern themselves with issues of race
yeah cuz we don't like ugly people
Prey is an imisim where you barely interact with humans. It's almost pure mechanics and exploration.
Deathpoop and Redfagg are woke nonsense. The first is a fortnite clone with rehashed levels and the other is a boring "team action" game of which there are thousands.
stop false flagging. Nobody thinks asians are inferior. Maybe a bit too submissive but they have arguably the longest lasting civilization and if you knew anything about history you wouldn't even consider debating this.
Middle-easterners used to be pretty decent too. We got a lot of stuff from them in medieval times. But they failed to evolve past religious based culture and fell behind.
So it's literally only sub-saharan africans and aboriginals who have never achieved anything. It's not prejudice or bigotry. It's just the literal facts
What is woke about Deathloop? Unironically Prey has more woke than Deathloop (and is a better game, go figure)
naggerpoop? Good?
I did.
>different shapes of black goo.
The RE7 method
It's a 7 out of 10 game that reviewers were paid to give 10s. The dogshit AI and not enough being done with the repeating day gimmick (once you figure out "the sequence" you've beaten the game) brings it down a lot.
7/10 is good you retarded mongol
5/10 is traditionally the average/passable point
Deathloop was terrible and hiding behind "its just racists" doesn't work.
Even if he didn't work on the DLC beyond the soundtrack only on the base game, the former is made out of the latter so essentially the answer is . Arkane is dead and Harvey Smith killed it.
that does explain everything
Deahtloop is vastly better than Prey, that said - nothing from Arkane will ever be good again because Microsoft put their grubby paws on them and now it's all over.
Might be one of the worst opinions I've ever seen on this board, and I didn't even hate Deathloop.
Deathloop and Redfall were developed with naggers in mind
idk i haven't played deathloop but at least neither of them were looter shooters
Deathloop is a looter shooter though.
I see. Nevermind then.
Mooncrash requires you to think about the space you're in, the things you need to do, in which order and the time it will require. There's actual planning involved with many different approaches and solutions as well as the improvisation required due to unpredictable elements, which all culminates when you escape with everyone in a single run with the plan *you* as the player, conceived.
Deathloop is just a structurally linear shooter with extra steps and the whole time loop is more a narrative element than a gameplay one. You just need to see all the mandatory story stuff before you unlock the final run, which only has one scripted solution.
Never played Redfall so idk about that one.
I agree in many ways it actualy surpasses the base game.
"And now I've found my way to hell...."
The base game is superior but Mooncrash was a unique twist. I wish it borrowed more from roguelikes.
Deathloop was a huge disappointment. Both that and Redfall (and arguably doto) are cheap ways at getting popularity by dumbing down instead of focusing on what made them great.
Nothing will ever compare to making OP builds in Dishonored 2 with bonecharm crafting, or shooting nightmares in prey.
I fucking wish there were more challenges man, it get piss easy once you memorize the layout and the permanent good-spots. Never used the mimic of the mule operator
It only took 27 posts to get an actual answer. Good job, Ganker.
There's no thinking required after you learn how to craft delays.
came here to post this
I loved arkane and mooncrash was a fantastic DLC, deathpoop, which I bought at launch, is a piece of shit. it ran horribly, with broken AI and was FUCKING LINEAR. also the ending was a fucking embarrassment. and if it wasn't enough, redfail happened. arkane is dead, all the good people left
>despite them taking heavy inspiration from it.
Not the case, different dev teams entirely, I'm talking completely seperate offices. I about to sleep so I'm not going to look up the source but I'm confident I read an interview where a HOD of Deathloop made the conscious choice to not play Mooncrash so it would not effect their choices. Also what said is another good note.
Mooncrash is trash for speedrunning trannies
>Filtered by the portal escape route
Running through the same level over and over again isnt fun especially when you can just buy all the items you need at the start
That's the safeguard for pussies. Real men start with nothing and beat all 5 routes while leaving tools behind for the next survivor. It's pretty thrilling to be on your last survivor, realize you need to bypass a typhoon gate and you don't have any electricity ammo, remember batteries create a PEM charge when exploded, steal one battery from the mainframe leaving one level without energy, shooting at it next to the gate to deactivate it, and finally making it to the scape route with few seconds on the clock, all while being chased by the moonshark and the respawning enemies.
Can,t you just use a typhon tower to clear that area out? You can even use the boltcaster to bait the shark into going there too.
You can, but I completed that story mission after the run I described in
I did not use the typhoon tower much, it was much more fun to engage with enemies
I enjoyed Deathloop much more than Mooncrash. Playing these games with a strict time limit is a chore.
The time limit is what makes it all work. It really makes you take risk that you wouldn't make otherwise.
On a strictly theoretical level, I agree with you. But I don't find it fun.
Well i do. Especialy when i don't buy stuff before the run.
non of those are good
There's no overlap between Deahtloop devs and Mooncrash devs, nor RedFall. Prey Mooncrash was developed by a small group at Arkane Austin, while Deathloop was developed at Arkane Lyon. Redfall was also developed by Arkane Austin, but like 70% of devs abandoned ship when they saw the writing on the wall. And I'm happy, fuck multiplayer shit, the only imsim multiplayer I'm going to try is System Shock's 2 cooperative when the remaster comes out. Also:
> Harry Smith is gone
> Raphael Kinoantonio is gone too
Who's still at Arkane worth a damn?
Harvey Smith left?
>why is the devs' last ditch effort to save an underperforming game better than corpo-designed slop made by nepotism hires
God why do normies hate immersive sims but buy shit like Far Cry and Red Dead.
>why do normies hate immersive sims
They don't hate them, they simply don't know they exist.
Normalfags perceive the world through advertisement, if someone doesn't tell them to buy thing they won't go looking for it on their own.
Unironically marketing. What gets pushes harder sells more
Wasn't Deus EX MD marketed a ton?
Yes, but very poorly. Even now you still get people (who I assume never played the game) acting like the Aug Lives Matter shit that comprised the bulk of its pre-release buzz was some massive crux of the game's plot and not A) a slogan that, as far as I recall, only appears in the textures of leaflets, posters and other background assets scattered around the hub & is never actually spoken in-game, and B) explained as being propped up by the Illuminati to manufacture outrage and cause infighting amongst the public to make consolidating their control over the world easier.
Don't blame normies, blame the publisher for adding Denuvo.
>hate immersive sims
They don't, its just that Prey was one of the blandest games every made. Literally nothing about it was interesting
Prey is one of the wokest games I've played, but I liked it. You can enjoy the game and call out stuff in it that you do not like. Also enemy variety was really bad, just different shapes of black goo. But I still liked it
I agree but the diversity felt authentic with modern corpo culture. But yeah whle the variety isn't great it's ironicaly has the most diverse enemy selection out of any Arkane game.
At least the different shapes of black goo had different behaviour and encouraged switching up tactics.
I know it's a low bar, but nowadays few games meet it.
It's tolerable because it isn't shoved in your face. You don't have to listen to a nagger woman barking you orders because she's your superior or listen to a tranny's monologue on how oppressed it is.
It also fucking makes sense, no shit a world-wide effort is going to consist of a lot of groups, and no fuck some are going to be gay as the reality is a lot of those people are narcisists to an absurd degree and opt for people that remind them of themselves (that or completely subserviant folk which is also implied a fair bit)
You're full of shit. You don't even see any woke shit in Prey unless you actively look for it and give it a woke interpretation because it's not very explicit.
Two characters, who you see for like 5 seconds, being ugly doesn't make the game woke You play a decent looking asian, your brother looks like Gaben and that's about 95% of the humans you see in game. The rest is aliens and robots
prey good? clunky and annoying engine, mechanics, and gameplay. enemies respawn but resources dont so unless you take typhon powers get fucked. have fun backtracking to explore and getting fucked.
deathloop way better
>he didn't farm phantoms for the free weapon kits and ammo
>mooncrash: repeat the same shit until yu get the golden wrench
>deathloop: repeat the same shit until you get silenced pistol and the ability to tie enemies together
I hate these artificial progression games.
Deathloop had looter-shooter shit thown in, also there was only one actual method to kill all the targets in one run and finish the game. The ending also sucked.
>"sit down colt, I'll explain everything."
>proceeds to explain nothing
>"here's some guns, let's shoot each other"
game was still fun tho
deathloop is my favourite arkane game because unlike dishonored i don't feel punished for being as lethal and loud as i'd like to be, the game is positively begging you to slaughter every eternalist you see non-stop for 20 hours, good shit. also there isn't too much reading boring lore documents compared to prey, they actually made most of the things you read important to gameplay because you learn new things you can do to kill and increase your weapons. traversal in prey was a chore too, you can fly around blackreef. deathloop was dope. shame how choosing a black MC ruined it for Ganker
you are not punished in Dishonored, you simply get the consequences of your own actions. you want to have your cake and eat it too.
moral systems are gash. may they rot in the 7th gen
Eh, it's more of a cause and effect thing.
yes if i kill my enemies with my cool magic powers then i cause a plague that kills everyone
why do you care about that, its the gameplay impact that matters
i fully engage with games
Yes, because if you murder every guard around suddenly the plague gets harder to contain. Who would have thought?
>muh Dishonored punishes the player for having fun
All it does is giving what you fucking want. You want to be peaceful, you get peace, you want to be violent, you get violence, you want to be stealthy, there are less guards and they become sloppy so you can sneak in places easier, you want to fucking kill everyone, there are more guards for you to kill.
Playing through Prey for the first time and I think it's great. Fantastic even.
Why was it so overlooked at launch?
it's just that 2017 as a year was too good.
Because it had fucking Prey on its name, which made everyone think it was a reboot to that mediocre 360 shooter with the indian dude
No it's not
terribly advertised, imsims sell like shit because normies don't understand it takes some degree of thinking to do things, and ign chucked it with a 4/10 because the reviewers save file got corrupted, despite praising it. it's a pity, it's still one of the more unique games ive played so far
Along with what anons already said, it ran pretty badly too at launch
I dunno because I only played regular prey
(I also played prey 2006 but I definitely prefer new prey)
>pre microsoft
>post microsoft
>4 tiny maps
>fucking zero enemy variety
>no difficulty progression
>zero weapon variety
>5 spells taken from dishonored
>no plot
>1 proper way to do runs
It feels like a half assed Dishonored DLC.
Dosnt help that they only bit of plot you get happen in the tutorial and the ending with nothing between those 2 sequences.
And since there is no plot the quips and shit quickly get on your nerves as they just waste time.
With no interesting combat, no narrative and no openness on what can you do it gets repettetive very fast.
Also fuck me the location variations being split by loading screens feels dated as fuck.
It really was a 6/10 game for me, it ran out of steam in first 5 hours and i had to push myself to finish it.
>forced himself to do something he didn't enjoy
lmaoing at this baffoon.
Deathloop didn't seem to understand what it wanted to be while Mooncrash pretty much had the opposite
Raphael CHADantonio left, along with most of arkane austin.
Deathloop is still a fun but flawed game, the focus on multiplayer likely fucked development up as arkane lyon clearly were not up to the task. There may still be hope for dingus bazooka's studio.
Redfall was basically an order from zenimax to make a service-type game, and it got double fucked by smith's inability to lead. The result is utterly soulless, designed by committee slop. Don't make the mistake I made anons, don't even try it I utterly regret the two hours I lost on this trash.
Dishonored 2 had a shit story but the gameplay,powers, art direction and level design were great. Smith is not inherently bad at leading so I wonder how else he dropped the ball with Redfall.
deathloop is way better than mooncrash.
prey itself is better than both
never could get into prey for some reason,and i usually love immersive sims. just got bored in the beginning and the mimic jumpscares got more annoying rather than scary as you continued playing.
You made this thread already schizoid, hope you enjoy it being deleted.
So is Morgan dead?
>female pick is canon
>dark tentacle monsters out to rape you
>fat, useless double crossing brother
>shitty privileged parents
>lesbian side quest with evil straight white man
>every character is butt ugly brown and infected with the gay
>main team of people who put up a resistance have le stronk commander woman who need no man
>recycling is main theme of weapon, upgrade and ammo handling
>ending reveals that you TRANSition into a tentacle rape monster with induced brainwashing
>betraying your real race for le greater good is the right thing to do goyim
>name of the game is literal historic revisionism
Brave and bold.
meh, i didn't car for mooncrash but i enjoyed the main game a lot
>it's a 'forgot to dump my items into the storage operator before extracting' episode
>have to fight off a telepath with a wrench because it's blocking the escape pod Typhon gate
Some anon last week opened my eyes,its fucking pozzed game with wokenism!!
It's truly disappointing just how lazy the difficulty modes in Prey are