Why is the FFXIV playerbase so elitist?

Why is the FFXIV playerbase so elitist?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not being elitist, I'm simply asking you to do more than cast Thunder 2 once and then stare at the enemies.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't mean they're elitist to other players in FFXIV, I mean they're elitist to players of other games.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can answer that question yourself. Just look at the state of literally every other MMO.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          here's an example of what i mean by the ffxiv playerbase being elitist

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thats not true.
        the wow andys are.

        ff14 fans are only elitist aggainst wow andys that still think wow is the shit number 1

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >thats not true.
          of course it's true

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          what the fuck is a andy?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            twitch speak for person who likes something a lot

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bull fucking shit. I put 2000 hours in the game and wrote this:

          >Overworld has a very limited amount of stuff to do. Aether currents, sightseeing, Maps and mob hunting--FATEs, marks, weather elites are all a different flavor of the same shit
          >dungeons are all straight lines, so only a handful of them are legitimately fun to play, so duty finder is always a speedrun to the boss and loot, and you can go months without doing dungeons because the gear you buy endgame or craft will always be better
          >It's a good story buried between godawful storytelling--the good parts that players always mention are always during the last 5-10 hours of a 40 hour slog with the only exception being Heavensward and Stormblood (Stormblood's good 5-10 hours was in the middle of the xpac instead.)
          >very little quest variety--go here, talk to this npc, the go here and turn in your rat tails. If you want good quests, you have to do Hildebrand or craft
          >once you get to endgame, there is very little to do if you don't care about glamming up. It's very easy to spend hours at a time running in circles because the actual MMO (Eureka, Bozja, Deep Dungeons) are done in a month or two of sub time each
          >some bosses are ok and the music is very good.

          I stopped playing and unsubbed one day after realizing most of the farms in ffxiv are completely pointless. Nothing changes, nothing evolves, you just pick the class that plays like every other class in its role and run the treadmill for glorified Fortnite skins.

          The pattern recognition machine that is FFXIV is hard to recommend unless you have played nearly every single ff and get off on fanservice.

          But you can't say that here. I was called a WoWfag and told "SHOW YOUR NECROMANCER TITLE BRO". Seriously; fuck this community. They will call you a WoWfugee or claim you never played the game. You are literally not allowed to criticize this game.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            damn bro thats crazy

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Case in point. XIV chuds are brick walls. Elitist is putting it mildy when talking about these literally trannies and women's favorite soap opera.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no one cares

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Overworld has a very limited amount of stuff to do. Aether currents, sightseeing, Maps and mob hunting--FATEs, marks, weather elites are all a different flavor of the same shit
            True
            >dungeons are all straight lines, so only a handful of them are legitimately fun to play, so duty finder is always a speedrun to the boss and loot, and you can go months without doing dungeons because the gear you buy endgame or craft will always be better
            True
            >It's a good story buried between godawful storytelling--the good parts that players always mention are always during the last 5-10 hours of a 40 hour slog with the only exception being Heavensward and Stormblood (Stormblood's good 5-10 hours was in the middle of the xpac instead.)
            Debatable, if you had said you need to get through ARR to get to the better stories you would have had a stronger point
            >very little quest variety--go here, talk to this npc, the go here and turn in your rat tails. If you want good quests, you have to do Hildebrand or craft
            True
            >some bosses are ok and the music is very good.
            True
            >once you get to endgame, there is very little to do if you don't care about glamming up. It's very easy to spend hours at a time running in circles because the actual MMO (Eureka, Bozja, Deep Dungeons) are done in a month or two of sub time each
            True

            So now that your arguments are largely accepted, what exactly is your point? No one claims FFXIV is perfect, far from it. It's just the best we have at the moment and by your own admission you have a couple of months of decent play time. I'd argue more if you actually care about raid content in MMO's but either way it seems like you're making arguments for XIV, not against it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              My point is that FFXIV fans don't do what you just did and try to examine or breakdown these points they just kick and scream until you say fuck it and leave the thread. It's obnoxious and makes it easy to hate the game in spite of its flaws. They're like KH-fags circa 2007.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the majority of ffxiv players would howl like lunatics at this post and reject every single point.

                If you come into a FFXIV thread and start criticizing it you should have a reason to do so, if you have no point to your argument and are just there to shit on the game people are enjoying then why should they take you seriously? You're bringing nothing, suggesting no alternative, adding nothing to the conversation and just being a downer. On the other hand I spent the last day criticizing the latest patch announcements and the armor set designs because of how they're neglecting certain class aesthetics and despite people licking Yoshis immaculate boots it was generally a fine discussion because there was context and reason for it.

                To add to [...] I do like FFXIV, but the elitists who shit on LITERALLY everything that isn't FFXIV are everywhere. It's not the worst game by far, but it's players are the worst type of gamer.

                There's fanatics on any game, I won't defend all FFXIV lunatics but anyone who bootlicks P2W/endless grind shit in games like Lost Ark or the censorship in WoW are orders of magnitude worse than FFXIV "gamers"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >If you come into a FFXIV thread and start criticizing it you should have a reason to do so
                Yeah, there usually are reasons given, the players just reject them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What’s the non retarded reason anonymous, come on let’s hear it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >any reason i disagree with is automatically retarded
                >i know this because i'm a narcissist who cannot be wrong

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lol you can’t read and you didn’t give a reason

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, there's always a reason, most of the playerbase just glosses over them and goes through mental hoops defending bad shit. Like, I said that Bozja being unfinished is one of the worst decisions made for the game, and people countered with "Well no one liked Bozja anyways." This is just one example. By your definition, Ganker "shits" on every game instead of criticizing them, but GOD FORBID you treat ffxiv the same way.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              the majority of ffxiv players would howl like lunatics at this post and reject every single point.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              To add to

              My point is that FFXIV fans don't do what you just did and try to examine or breakdown these points they just kick and scream until you say fuck it and leave the thread. It's obnoxious and makes it easy to hate the game in spite of its flaws. They're like KH-fags circa 2007.

              I do like FFXIV, but the elitists who shit on LITERALLY everything that isn't FFXIV are everywhere. It's not the worst game by far, but it's players are the worst type of gamer.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Overworld has a very limited amount of stuff to do. Aether currents, sightseeing, Maps and mob hunting--FATEs, marks, weather elites are all a different flavor of the same shit
            True
            >dungeons are all straight lines, so only a handful of them are legitimately fun to play, so duty finder is always a speedrun to the boss and loot, and you can go months without doing dungeons because the gear you buy endgame or craft will always be better
            True
            >It's a good story buried between godawful storytelling--the good parts that players always mention are always during the last 5-10 hours of a 40 hour slog with the only exception being Heavensward and Stormblood (Stormblood's good 5-10 hours was in the middle of the xpac instead.)
            Debatable, if you had said you need to get through ARR to get to the better stories you would have had a stronger point
            >very little quest variety--go here, talk to this npc, the go here and turn in your rat tails. If you want good quests, you have to do Hildebrand or craft
            True
            >some bosses are ok and the music is very good.
            True
            >once you get to endgame, there is very little to do if you don't care about glamming up. It's very easy to spend hours at a time running in circles because the actual MMO (Eureka, Bozja, Deep Dungeons) are done in a month or two of sub time each
            True

            So now that your arguments are largely accepted, what exactly is your point? No one claims FFXIV is perfect, far from it. It's just the best we have at the moment and by your own admission you have a couple of months of decent play time. I'd argue more if you actually care about raid content in MMO's but either way it seems like you're making arguments for XIV, not against it.

            I think the problem is that criticism is not welcomed and that the developers are not fixing some of these issues , almost intentionally. For instance, the Relic Weapons (at least ARR Zodiac Relics ) are completely insane levels of grind - EACH. Yeah, the stuff looks cool and even if you want those glams it shouldn't be this fucking tedious. I can think of ways to improve every step of the ARR Relics, not to mention make it so that if you manage to make one of them with all the steps to the end, each one for other subsequent jobs starts at thew 2nd to last form. In any event after all this time it could majorly be improved in countless ways, but despite that applying to nearly every other part of the game (ie you can turn in Grand Company seals for all the rare drop mounts or pets from ARR/Heavenward or Stormblood/Shadowbringers. ) these still are not improved? FUCK I hate needless grind and the "hurrdurr supposed to be a timesink bro back in 2013" isn't a fucking excuse.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The truth is there are a lot of crabs in the bucket who think because they went through that painful grind that you should have to as well and I don't entirely disagree with it when the only reward is just a cosmetic status symbol. It's already far easier/faster than it would have been originally. And to be clear I went through this same painful grind earlier in the year for the first time (played ARR but quit before getting a full relic) so I know it sucks ass. All the early relics sucked ass but at least I have the only good looking Bow in the entire game now, Terpander Lux.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is that "crabs in the bucket" theory harms the game. I'm not saying "completely eliminate any work or time spent" but the original ARR Relics were set up at a time to re-run a limited amount of content and to make the most of it. That isn't necessary now and its stupid to have it continue. Lets not pretend its really made "easier" now just because one time they said "oh on one step you need to kill 3 of each thing instead of 10" or "fine we'll let you use poetics to grind out mysterious maps on one other step". I mean those are a good starts, but they haven't updated anything beyond that. Its still insane levels of grind. At each step of the quest I can see ways they could improve it just about and alternate ways to get credit while doing stuff in/from later expansions or other ways to unlock items.

                >ARR Relic Base -
                This is actually okay. They could make it so instead of having to run a specific dungeon and/or trial difficulty you could run any of them but this is okay
                >ARR Relic Zenith
                Again, okay. Only takes 3 Thavarian Mist to the previous stage at the forget
                .>ARR Relic Atma
                Here's the first big bullshit. You have to go to 12 different zones and grind FATEs to get a specific gem from that zone, while using a Zenith weapon. First, remove the Zenith weapon requirement. The idea you have to equip the particular weapon is stupid especially when a future Relic level won't work. INstead flag the character regardless of class or equipped gear; flagging persists until you clear all the ARR Relics Atma stage. Next, make it so that those zones have 2x the chance of awarding that particular gem, but make them drop from other zones' FATEs for every flagged character, and let them be bought/sold on Market Board.

                Out of room but it goes on from here - there are ways to make it take work but be more in line with a cosmetic and evolution/time since.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >First, remove the Zenith weapon requirement
                >Grinding to make a weapon stronger but don't have to use the weapon
                Soulless
                >let them be bought/sold on Market Board
                >Paying to skip playing the game
                Soulless and arguably mentally ill

                Even if you had a point I'd rather they spend development time fixing literally anything else than making a cosmetic easier to get

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Grinding to make a weapon stronger but don't have to use the weapon
                If that's your viewpoint of the autism then fine, have the weapon scale to whatever your average iLevel is, but they won't do that because thew whole point is that each step basically adds 10 points to the thing, right? Even if they took away the FATE-limit for particular zones, if it was limited to using the damn item at a particular item level , its inherently limiting because it means that your iLvl70-90 weapon isn't going to do anything more than plink off a FATE of a later expansion for instance. It also means that you can't progress at all if you're not using that particular job, weapon etc. So what is the fucking solution besides "just keep the grind as it is because you like it exactly that grindy and are a bucket crab?"
                >Don't like it being bought?
                Someone has to find the gems, this gives people a reason to do so and an option to make it easier.

                >Development time oh so important elsewhere
                They spend much of their time on finding cosmetics to sell for $22 per outfit or $7 to drink tea. Not to mention they have already made other old content easier and more accessible like the aforementioned GC Seal boxes for minions and mounts. Hell you claim that one long ago time they made even Relics easier (slightly) so its not off brand for them to spend time polishing this shit. There's no reason to argue against it except the literal crab bucket no different from any other exclusionist "If 1% of people see/finish the raid that's fine, we need months of keying and repgrinds, I hate dungeon/raid finding tools its TOO EASY I DID IT THE HARD WAY ANYONE WHO DIDNT SUFFER AS I DID FUCK OFF WORSHIP ME FUCKERS" viewpoints. If its "just a cosmetic" they can make it easier - after all it was "hard" for years and people got admiration for the grind back in the day. Lets not justify maintaining bad, tedious shit when there is opportunity for improvement.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Hell you claim that one long ago time they made even Relics easier (slightly)
                They made ARR relics substantially easier, and they're still incredibly tedious, boring and long-winded.

                MMOs got infected by the wrong people and then devs started catering to them because they're the loudest. That's half the reason the genre's dead.

                MMOs were always made to cater to the lowest-common-denominator but old ones had an attempt to be technically impressive as well; the "living, breathing world" line that MMO "boomers" like to parrot is referring to Runescape which had farmland mobs that don't respawn. Open your eyes about the games you used to play.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >>They made ARR relics substantially easier, and they're still incredibly tedious, boring and long-winded.

                Agreed on them still being tedious, but were they substantially easier? I remember the two changes were either A) 3x per enemy in the books instead of 10x. All other book content the same B) Alexandrite could be poetic-farmed from Mysterious Maps . Still grindy, but less so than having to get it randomly from FATEs etc. Pretty much everything else seems similar to how I remember back in the day and I came back at the tail end of Shadowbringers.

                >They spend much of their time on finding cosmetics to sell for $22 per outfit or $7 to drink tea.
                No they don't we barely get any cosmetics. Cosmetics rewards are valued for the time/effort it takes to earn them, there's no reason to change it as if people don't want to put in the time to earn an original relic they can just go with something else. It sounds like you're seething because it's taking you so long when in reality you can do it in a day or two

                Ah now you see, they'd rather find cosmetics you can buy than those you can unlock in game through play. That has been the pernicious change since the early days. There's a lot of exclusive to buy stuff and old holiday stuff can't even split the difference in that you can either buy it cheap off season or unlock i ngame when it comes round again, but now you can't get old holiday stuff - you HAVE to buy it on the MogStation.

                >Just get something else, don't buy/earn it etc
                And people who don't want an emote, outfit, mount, minion off the Mog Station for cash can just use one of those in game instead right? You don't NEED those etc.

                That justification isn't valid for shitty monetization and its not valid for shitty tedious grindy content either. Doesn't matter if its for a cosmetic or anything else, tedious poor design not being updated in one of the myriad ways that could improve it is always a problem.
                >Do it in a day or two
                I'm guessing this is only possible if you're A) max level and thus overlevel the content considerably B) are willing to sit and literally grind only on this, for hours and hours, days and days - possibly worse depending on RNG etc. At best this is mind numbingly tedious and you have to dedicate all of your gameplay time to doing so - and thats PER WEAPON. It isn't like if you finish one the long way every other is easy to unlock.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >but now you can't get old holiday stuff - you HAVE to buy it on the MogStation.
                As opposed to most games where stuff becomes unobtainable if you miss, this is far better.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                False equivalence. In most games (including WoW) if you "miss" a holiday/event item it comes around next holiday and you can unlock it then, old or new content. What I proposed would already be a compromise in that some people wouldn';t want to wait and would pay for it off season for a couple of bucks - I'd be fine with this, so long a you'd get it when it came round again. I give credit to FFXIV when they do this right (ie the collab events like the return of Garo PVP stuff instead of having to buy it), they just need to expand it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not true or it didn't used to be, there were many events holiday and otherwise with missable items, I remember brewfest mounts/glowing cups not returning in future repeats. I remember the Classic Naxxramas event not being repeated ever with some interesting items like the leather robe for Rogues. Plenty of other holdidays were the same, some did repeat, but not all.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Brewfest mounts came back, and the cups came back with the same graphic named differently if they were a particular year's item. Anything that didn't come back or have the same graphic etc.. was incredibly rare and weren't usually holiday related and were like pre-patch events (like Classic Naxx, AQ gates, or Scourge Invasion etc), but typically items with the same graphics were made available in the next expansion (Pandaria timed run armor graphics were unlocked) . They didn't start really leaning on FOMO and taking stuff out until much later and I decry that as shitty (ie I stopped playing end of Legion, I hear they took away a goldsink mount from BFA when all before used to never go away ).

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lmao, WoW is the prime example of a FOMO based MMO, its not just mounts that go away

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Both WoW and XIV are designed with FOMO. All old content is dead after a patch for both games.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doing old content in XIV is infinitely better than doing it in WoW

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can do old content and not have it be a total chore in FFXIV. It also has glamours I actually want to wear, which is an incentive to go back and do those in the first place. Daily roulettes also keep it from ever being "dead," unless you're Bahamut or Bozja.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bozja is still alive thanks to it being a good source of EXP, Raids in those are a bit dead though, gotta PF for them but same applies to Eureka raid which isnt even PFable at this point, and requires you to join discords. Eureka was also filled with bots at some point

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                read

                Doing old content in XIV is infinitely better than doing it in WoW

                You have clearly not played XIV if thata what you believe. Played WoW for at least 15 years and been playing XIV for at least 4(took a break from the later every now and then tho) . I can see the difference in FOMO from miles away and you'd be retarded to believe otherwise
                >oh yeah but its not like my 20+ yrs old cucked dead MMO filled with griefers
                of course it isnt lmao, but it doesn't mean its filled with FOMO, its minimal

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You have clearly not played XIV if thata what you believe
                1.0 to 6.0 and didnt bother with 6.1. Content is dead within the week.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it must be nice to have all the reliq weapons, all the ultimates, all the mounts , all the minions, all the titles.... then theres no real content

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >content is dead within a week
                stop lying, content is meant to lose its player pop but its not dead, even Eureka is still alive.
                >m-muh old raids
                of course they'd be dead why would anybody do them min ilvl+no echo as when they were released if you can farm them. And even then there are still PFs popping up every now and then just for that
                >b-but muh old dead MMOs did something else
                yeah thats why they are dead, forced artificial engagement isnt engagement

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even Eureka is still alive.
                the amount of cope a ffxiv go through to lie about his dying game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are an idiot. I didn't play at all during Stormblood and did Eureka and BA afterwards.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can get pretty far in Eureka with a WAR and one other dps and apparently it's not even Eureka anymore. You can clear the Bozja 48-man raids with 5-6 people now. That doesn't scream "healthy" to me.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You can clear the Bozja 48-man raids with 5-6 people now. That doesn't scream "healthy" to me.
                Does that mean the Cerberus mount is trivial to get now? Might have to go unlock Bozja, I never bothered because I came back after it was already over and assumed it'd be impossible

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Way moreso than before. You still have to find a party that wants to do DR savage with you, but people are always looking and everything is optimized to be braindead easy once you learn it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How easy is it compared to Eureka raid? I'd consider that extremely challenging by comparison as without significant organization you will not clear it even now

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't done BA, but it's pretty easy. The only difference is that you get punished a lot harder for fucking up. The real challenge is getting through the initial grind to actually get there, but even that is easy and just takes some commitment.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, you still have to plan and organize, but it's really not that painful.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                DRS is unironically harder, BA was easy but since it required THAT many people, it was bound to have 4 to 5 fags fucking up. As of present, BA still remains way more doable thanks to discord groups and fights having little to no mechanics

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can do that because Bozja was balanced from the get-go around variable player counts.
                Eureka was nerf-patched to do the same but it is also one of the least active activities in the game. (largely because people hate how grindy it was)

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the amount of cope
                Yeah its still alive, stop lying

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's problems with WoW, but none of that means enabling or justifying bad monetization in FFXIV or anywhere else. There's plenty to critique there, but there are different thing. We were talking about cyclical holiday events - in WoW (and early FFXIV ) you could unlock any past year's shit in game without paying the next time the event came around. In current FFXIV, you can only unlock the event's new shit that year, and all old shit must be paid for with real money on MogStation, piece by piece. That's shitty.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not justifying bad monetization with seasonals, but I was criticizing general FOMO which is minimal in XIV. Saying that you can pay to bypass this doesn't mean am defending its monetization, but that its still possible to get most FOMO shit, even PvP rewards are coming back, the only things that are probably never coming back in any form are titles of past events and there arent that many of those. Meanwhile WoW is filled to death by seasonal garbage and FOMO since day 1, monetization or not

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If Hiromichi Tanaka were still here, he'd make last year's event items obtainable through a NPC vendor using event currency or gil.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You used to be able to buy old event items every time an event came back for gil at a vendor.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm guessing this is only possible if you're A) max level and thus overlevel the content considerably
                Wait you're trying to get your ARR relic weapon without being max level?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, but I'm saying that its a difference from how it was "originally intended" if some people are stuck on the "old way" as some sort of purity test as a reason for not changing things along with how the game has evolved in other ways. If its still tedious even if you're unsync'd and max level because there aren't very easy changes that could be made to make it less so, it would be multiple times as tedious sync'd as "intended".

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >They spend much of their time on finding cosmetics to sell for $22 per outfit or $7 to drink tea.
                No they don't we barely get any cosmetics. Cosmetics rewards are valued for the time/effort it takes to earn them, there's no reason to change it as if people don't want to put in the time to earn an original relic they can just go with something else. It sounds like you're seething because it's taking you so long when in reality you can do it in a day or two

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You will suffer as I have suffered and do the horrible fate and book grind

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't think either of those where that bad

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, did you not enjoy anything about the game?
            It's sort of a meme to point it out, but you played for 2000 hours. Was it just addiction?
            One of the nice things about XIV is that you can unsub and then resub and play through new story stuff/dungeons/etc later.
            Hopefully these new dungeons come out are a sign of better things to come on that front, I'd like to see a little more experimentation as far as the format of dungeons is concerned. It is a shame that they're mostly linear pull to the wall experiences.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It might sound strange, but I genuinely like the game. I originally wrote that when someone asked if FFXIV was good. Then 90% of the posts were calling it amazing, and when I said no it's not that good, I got dogpiled and called a WoWfag. That triggered me into writing all of that. I like the game and accept its flaws, but the fanbase triggers the everliving shit out of me, and it makes me look at xiv with a much more critical lens nowadays.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >straight line dungeons bad
            >following line in Mythic Dungeon Tools good

            There's a reason why dungeons in the style of haukke manor and sunken temple of qarn have never been repeated, no one runs dungeons for the sake of running them but rather for the reward or progress. any sort of non-linearity or puzzle is optimised out in every MMORPG after running it the first time

            but if the criticism was instead that dungeons are too easy hopefully the new Criterion dungeons fill this void for players like Savage and Ultimate do

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I mean yeah, having to learn and optimize a route is more engaging than mashing the sprint button and holding W until you can't anymore.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It *becomes* mashing the sprint button and holding W until you can't anymore once you've figured it out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it's like that immediately even in new dungeons unless you're playing with mongoloids.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Go forward
                >pull mob
                >go forward
                >pull mob
                >boss fight
                >repeat the above two more times

                There is literally nothing to figure out in dungeons past the ARR lvl 50 dungeons. What you just said literally only applies to ARR. And maybe The Aery.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >There is literally nothing to figure out in dungeons past the ARR lvl 50 dungeons.
                Who cares? The developers are on-record as saying dungeons became that because that's how people treated dungeons in ARR. Criterions are for people that moan about missing Pharos Sirius all day.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Stop backpedaling. You originally argued that dungeons are more than pressing w, and when using ARR as an example, now that suddenly doesn't matter?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Sorry but am still not coming back to WoW, would I want a more engaging gameplay experience I'd play older single player games. MMOs aren't good at that, not even the old MMO gayry, they were just good for a time, then its over

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I literally said that I have never touched WoW, but since you're not trying to defend XIV, I won't call you a gay. You're right. I stopped playing ffxiv after it being my only game for a good year since I'm too busy irl to play xiv and other shit. The moment I started playing other games again, specifically Pathfinder and Ultrakill, was like waking up from a fever dream.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >took me a year or so to realize
                My condolences

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >andys
          Zoom zoom

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Our MMO is the best one in the market. We have a right to brag about it. This is not being elitist.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's not even better than ESO, let alone anything else

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Our MMO is the best one in the market.
          here's another example of ffxiv players being elitist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are snoys, everything about xiv spergs can be explained by the fact that it is a playstation game, they are the seething inferior but numerous nonwhites of the gaming world

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They need to gatekeep the WoWfugees before it gets even more mainstream. It's bad enough that there's youtubers out there actively promoting it, the retarded kids are going to lower the rating to PG13 if they flood the game.
    And Limsa is a whorehouse land.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lmao ffags couldn't even clear an lfr

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >He says that when the biggest wow streamer got absolutely filtered by 6 year old content.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/79fvgCc.jpg

      Why is the FFXIV playerbase so elitist?

      They don't even need to gatekeep tbh, the game gatekeeps itself, to catch up to current content you need to go through hundreds of hours of msq, and ARR is so much lower quality than late expansions it does a perfect job at keeping wowtards at bay.
      I'm in a wow community and the amount of people who tried it and dropped it after 10 hours is staggering
      Special mention to someone who used a level boost only to realize it's worthless without a msq skip too

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of WoWtists that can't cope with ARR is fucking baffling, it doesn't take THAT long to get out of it and some dim awareness that it's mainly worldbuilding and introducing you to the setting gives it a reason to be dry.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >some dim awareness that it's mainly worldbuilding and introducing you to the setting gives it a reason to be dry.
          You know that you can build a world while telling a compelling story, right? They're not mutually exclusive.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            ARR is compelling enough for what it's doing, things Hispanice up in the normal story at and after Ifrit. I said it's dry, not boring or bad.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >ARR is compelling

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >enough for what it's doing, things Hispanice up in the normal story at and after Ifrit.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you can tell they do what they can with the short time they have to rebuild the game.
              specially in vanilla with the several level gaps they game had when doing the msq and you are forced to do side content just to level up to get the next msq

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                These people would kill themselves instantly if they had to put up with ARR on-release. I almost did.

                >how an MMO doesn't allow them to be max level instantly
                Bro, your boosts?

                >MAX LEVEL

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The real filter is not realizing ARR has a good story.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          WoW is a live service game today. Players buy the game and get into action immediately with free level boost and afterwards they login to do quick 30mn content like m+ or bgs like they would do a lol ranked.
          FFXIV is story based and expects you to follow the narration and wowtards literally cannot comprehend how an MMO doesn't allow them to be max level instantly and do dailies with a finger snap

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >how an MMO doesn't allow them to be max level instantly
            Bro, your boosts?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Boosting on a new character is useless as you still need to do the whole msq to access anything and that would have carried to max level anyway

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bro your story skip?
                You guys are retarded, just because they force you to do the latest expansion doesnt mean you cant get to the Max Level in days.
                In fact, the MSQ alone gives enough exp for 80-90 anyway.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But you still need to do the msq? Did the topic change or something?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The topic never changed. You are a retard to think this is any different than WoW just because FFXIV drop you at 1 pitstop earlier than WoW.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you some type of retard?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Buying level boost + story skip up to endwalker starts to become expensive for someone who just bought the game, I guess that would filter most people. in wow you get a free boost when you buy shadowlands

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                getting to max level in this game is so fucking easy that i dont understand why poeple buy boosts.
                i even think is a decrement , while leveling you get so much gear that you can sell or change for company seals. you get a fuck ton of resources. why use a boost at all?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Boosts are not for new players but for people who want to reroll a new job without having to queues for 50 msq roulettes. Or at least that's my reasoning

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                but leveling to 50?.... you can do that in a couple of days.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's repetitive as fuck. If that's your 10th job I can understand buying a boost

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nope, if they were, they would force you to have a character at 90 to buy it.
                Your reasoning is shit and they dont care, you can buy it at level 1 and get into raid in 3 days tops.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Even with boosts you can’t be max level I think? Just 10 levels below max

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thats 1 day at most of grinding through MSQ and dungeon. Leveling is a joke and you dont even need to gear for it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >leveling is a joke
                good, shouldnt be something that takes long in themepark MMOs
                >you dont even need the gear for it
                Also positive on themepark MMOs

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It would help if the story wasn't locked behind 600 cutscenes where 450 of them are someone explaing why the flower you just picked is so important to them. Fuck OFF with that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The amount of WoWtists that can't cope with ARR is fucking baffling, it doesn't take THAT long to get out of it and some dim awareness that it's mainly worldbuilding and introducing you to the setting gives it a reason to be dry.

        Honestly to me that sounds like a good thing.
        I wouldn't want to deal with brainlets who need instant gratification.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Game is simple
    Majority of players eat glue

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      who is this absolute semen demon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        nobody its prob just a concept character because femcatwomen arent out yet.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Someones concept on what femhroths should look like

          God dammit
          The closest I can get to a cat fem in mmo's is ESO and even in there they look dogshit despite being better than nothing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I know your pain. Its an alright mmo but goddamn do we need more female anthros to oggle at.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's basically why i'm stuck with WoW, MMO developers are cowards that won't commit to beast races

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Someones concept on what femhroths should look like

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          If only.
          The team is going to put out miqo'tes with a furry texture and call it good.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Potentially (You) when you fanta to femhroth in 7.0!
        but lets be real, we're getting miqoto heads on thighlander bodies but retextured to be furry and still no hats
        Pic not related

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They came from wow the elitist

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Meteion was the worst character they added to FFXIV. Thank god Zenos saved this shitshow.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Birddicky

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All I see is a human in cosplay

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        do you have that one where it's just her lower body and her butt wings cover her butt?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Don't seem like it, sorry

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Does she pubes or feathers?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      i was secretly hoping Zenos was gonna gank meteion when she said she was gonna sing the song on hope
      he strikes me as the kinda guy that would dislike imposing hope on other people rather than having them find their own reason to live

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Zenos was following Alisaie's advice. The reason he got his fun duel with WoL was because he helped out.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wojack
    >reddit wojack
    have a nice day

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Last time I checked, posting your parse could get you banned. The game is "hostile casual", shooting down any attempt by people to get better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why are you posting your parse to people that dont give a shit, just make some like minded friends it's a fucking mmo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      FFXIV players aren't elitist about DPS, they're elitist about their game.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        can you blame them?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            why?
            can you blame a king for feeling like royalty?
            can you blame an eagle for soaring so high?
            can you blame god for loving you ?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Here's another example of the FFXIV playerbase being elitist.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yea, they are now the elite.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because they're mmo players

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Good Lord. I love those lizard girls so much it's unreal. I don't know why the people in this game have a preference for catgirls when the lizards have way cuter emotes and look Japanese

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What exactly is lizard about them, horns? like 3 scales on their arms?
      Every fem race in FF14 is just a cosplaying human or a midget

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love my delicious brown fish ra like you wouldn't believe

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Brown fish ras are adorable, I have a blonde, pale one with blue eyes myself.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    bnuuy butt

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Analway

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're really insecure and invested WAY to much time into something that's mediocre, so they point out the flaws of everything else, while plugging their ears at any criticisms. Funniest thing is that the game is WoW--even down to inclusion. I actually was told that gender locking in FFXIV was removed because it was "novel and funny." Bunch of disingenuous, addicted assholes.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >summer tower, see a pair of dudes using self destruct to be resurrected higher up
    >switch to healer and resurrect them from a lower level

    I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MY EYES

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based, fuck cheaters
      Honestly they should put a 'no action' field around the tower and watch them seethe

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      well, i know what im gonna do right now.
      thanks anon

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >anime game
    There's your answer. Everyone knows that weebs are fucking retarded.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No one asked why they were retarded, they asked why they were elitist.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Anime game fans are notoriously elitist.

        >Guilt Gear Strive
        >Blazblue
        >CompileHeart games

        The list goes on. Anime game fans are insanely insecure and have a superiority complex at the same time, so they throw a tantrum if you criticize what they like. Anime watchers do the same exact shit. They don't have any skills or hobbies, so they cope by saying that anything they're consuming is the best shit on the planet and anyone who doesn't agree with them is an NPC. Fucking autists.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Notice how the anti-chuds just complain about elitism rather than making any serious points. A perfect example of screeching into the wind right here

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          games
          Not even weebs like CompileHeart games.
          Their fans are... I don't know. Actually retarded? All their RPGs are literally "mash attack to win" and based around a bad gimmick like rubbing boobies or "Hey they're kind of like video game girls isn't that wacky?"

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    GET YOUR GAME FACES ON! IT'S SEAL ROCK DAY, MOTHERFUCKERS!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw I could hear Blood For Blood theme when I opened that webm

      Every fucking time.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I was hoping it was nadaam. I need to grind out the last few ranks for the archfiend set.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny that XIV got labeled as the "chud game" when WoW is the one with a whole book about how a gnome is non-binary.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The playerbase decides the label not the devs. WoW has chud devs trying to deconstruct an existing game and fuck with an existing playerbase. XIV on the other hand attracted the LGBTQ crowd from the start and especially after Yoshida bent the knee in ARR when he initially didnt want to add same sex EBs.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The playerbase decides the label not the devs. WoW has chud devs trying to deconstruct an existing game and fuck with an existing playerbase. XIV on the other hand attracted the LGBTQ crowd from the start and especially after Yoshida bent the knee in ARR when he initially didnt want to add same sex EBs.

      Not to mention it was the LGBTQ crowd from pre-Crystal Aether that brought about the removal of gender locked items surely and slowly. You guys had a chance to tell the devs no but you stayed quiet.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh nooooo some day i'll be able to wear the hingan peasant dogi as a female character and not a male character
        all i had to do was sacrifice my frickin' based conservative trad values and watch men wear bunny suits and women wear tuxedos
        aiieeeee western civilization (japanese video game btw) is literally falling apart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        XIV is going to drink the koolaid sooner rather than later, so I hope you guys enjoy the next year or two before you get body type'd

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >before you get body type'd
          *gasp* oh no whatever will we do

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Post more about WoW

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You elitist cunts literally dangle that over WoWchuds. Stop acting slow.

            >took me a year or so to realize
            My condolences

            I really wanted to do the Ivalice raids, ShB, and Bozja, so I powered through. Ironically I had the most fun playing Stormblood and doing that content, and ShB endgame is even with that. Problem is that there wasn't nearly enough to pay off the shitty pacing. I'm not a storyfag, but I won't shit on anything that I haven't tried, so I did all of that. Got to EW and at the end of Thavnair concluded "this is a waste of fucking time" and unsubbed.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Understandable, EW's story had very high highs and the lowest lows, as a conclusion of the arc, it was average at best. Besides from that there isnt much to do in the current expansion without any Grind zone and you can be done with raidgayry within a week. Haven't left the game yet, will probably remain my main MMO until the next big thing hits(without including eceleb shilling in the equation)or until I grow tired of it just as with any other MMO. I did endure a decade and a half of WoW after all and I still like MMO from what they got to offer

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >shadowbaby quit
              good riddance

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've been playing since 2013 befor HW even got announced and took a 3 year haitus when Stormblood came out. You can't tell me that this game isn't worse than it was pre-2017.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                To be fair, there is stuff that I miss from back then. But there is also stuff that has been improved on. I dont miss ARR coils or raids, but I do miss Alex raids when they were at their prime. Alex raids are my favorite for a reason, it also seemed like Normal mode was a bit harder back then.
                When it comes to jobs, I don't miss the TP bullshit but I do miss old AST

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The pink-haired libtard in the head of the localization team is already doing the work anon.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            fuck off to gamefaqs' TWEWY section

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm already learning japanese and will just move to nip servers at that point.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Reminder she was there for shadowbringer and we still got wacky and strange fate names

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Only reason she's even shown off and known is nobody hated her work before the face-reveal, yeah. Every time she's posted it's somebody trying to start a gender war fight and not having any real material.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >posting Koji's personal little cum sleeve like it's a big gotcha moment

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Isn't Foxclon everyone in CBU3 little cum sleeve

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            God I wish I saved the twitter shit she said.
            She changed to whole Omega race storyline.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              okay start posting JP comparisons, fuck off if you can't or won't

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                no. keep eating chud shit if you dont know nip

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                fuck off if you can't or won't

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Koji abandoned you to the trannies and there's nothing you can do about it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                How do you know Koji isn't a chud too?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                UMMMM UHHHH HE JUST ISN'T OKAY

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gatekeeping is crucial to the long-term viability of any hobby.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Yoshida would like you being elitist.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post it

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          wh-where's the third option?!

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Not body type 1 or 2

            Thank the Twelve there's only two genders

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Doesnt exist because Magic can transform a person to the opposite gender flawlessly.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not body type 1 or 2

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Am I supposed to look at this and think the reply is based, and not really embarrassing

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Explain how it's not based.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              dilate

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is an edit, right?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's from the RP guide my friend

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's just a joke. There is only 6 episodes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nah, all newbies get groomed by a bunny girl

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't, but bunny girls didn't exist when i started

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s only for new newbies, you started the game too soon.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                🙁

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I mean, yeah I suffered the same when I created an alt but didn't expect it to become an official video

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They're not, they just don't tolerate wowchuds.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I've played for 1000 hours and never tried chocobo racing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's fine. It's a really shit minigame.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just beat ARR for the first time and saw how many more quests i need to do to get to heavensward and just unsubbed yesterday, this game is such a slog that i had to force myself to play it.

    I thought the story was nice, a evil empire is my type of thing but i just found the combat, the systems and just go from point a to point b just put me to sleep.

    Yes im blogging but i dont think this game is good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ok

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unsubbed
      >ARR

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have to sub for ARR if you own the game. You're immediately banned from the trial the moment you spend any money for some reason.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yea but only a retard would buy the game at ARR unless they really love the game

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've owned WoW since 2004 and I can still play the trial right now on that account if I wanted. There's no actual reason to ban people from free trials unless they're genuinely breaking ToS.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Ok and?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                And the fact that WoW set this precedent for free trials causes people to think it's safe to buy the game despite being in the trial, because there's no actual reason for them to get kicked out.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              There's a perfectly good reason.

              Gatekeeping gays.
              Just like Ganker was better before phoneposting was possible and all the low-IQ chuds were kept out.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Except it doesn't gatekeep anyone. If anything the free trial does the opposite.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                tell me that to me, i believe i have 24 months of sub in total since I started in 2017 and I need to sub to do an event that a trial account can do for free

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the quest design is the worst i've ever seen in any mmo by far, and that's an extremely high bar considering the genre.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unsubbed
      >from the part of the game that doesn't require a sub

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It never gets better. The game does have a good story, but it's such a painful experience. You can't even skip around because you don't know which quests are legitimately important or not. If you don't like the pacing, it doesn't change in Heavensward. The only difference is that the good parts are pretty good.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >decide to watch a movie
      >stop watching because it takes too long to get to the climax
      People find the dumbest shit to complain about

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You guys are really fucking dense, you know that? You can remove 60% of the quest and the story wouldn't suffer for it. That's awful storytelling.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I want 60% more quests.

          Fuck off.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >what is pacing

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, the pacing is fucking awful in FFXIV, you're right.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >remove 60% of the quests
          >Immediately start whining about amount of content
          Fuck off back to raidertrash games.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Story isn't content, anon. Bozja did it right.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >a literal Eurekashit grind
              >content
              Kys

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doesn’t bozja have like 10+ bosses, 3raids, and 6 duals that are extreme difficulty?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Says the guy who thinks cutscenes are content. You're the reason why dungeons are straight lines and why 80% of the content is way dumbed down from the pre-SB days. So the you guys can more easily enjoy your story IN A FUCKING VIDEO GAME. I have spent 4 hour sessions where I did nothing but watch cutscenes and go to checkpoints. If that's content to you and Bozja is just grindy trash then petition Yoshi-P to make a VN.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pls cut more story content
                >bozja was good
                How to tell someone who doesn't play at all.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't done Bozja but what's your opinion on Eureka?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Haven't done it personally since I was unsubbed when it started and all my friends were just nonstop complaining about it so I avoided it when I came back.
                Bozja is just a bunch of reskinned Fate grinds in a row interspersed with alliance raids once you hit a particular breakpoint.
                Then they force you to do a ton more Fate grinding if you want to do the savage versions.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I like that you have to communicate. I like that you can experiment and try different things with the lost action system. I like that the raid fights are unique and that you have to actually learn them to clear and be aware of everything because of the instadeath penalty. I like that there's as sense of progression the longer you play. I like that there's maybe 2 hours of cutscenes during the entire experience. I like that it an actual fucking game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I like that you have to communicate.
                Except you don't.
                The closest you get to communication is some retard blogposting in chat or someone posting "group for platform move here".
                >I like that you can experiment and try different things with the lost action system.
                Which does fuck all.
                >I like that the raid fights are unique and that you have to actually learn them to clear
                They're not and you don't. People carry them all the time.
                >I like that there's as sense of progression the longer you play.
                All the sense of progression of an idle game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Except you don't.
                And when you don't do that you're destined to stumble and fail through. At the end of the day, if you want full loot you have to plan before each section. Which 24 man requires you to plan beforehand like the Bozja raids?

                >Which does fuck all.

                You serious? It completely changes the game for casters.

                >They're not and you don't. People carry them all the time.

                What's your point? 4-5 people in your party have to know what to do or else you're in for a wipefest. You can make that argument about all endgame content.

                >All the sense of progression of an idle game.

                You're being completely disingenuous if you're implying that rank 5 you with shitty essences feels the same as rank 25.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >full loot means you have to plan
                lol

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Prove me wrong anon. Show me the CLL strat that everyone knows without saying shit. Show me the run where everyone rescues every prisoner everytime because the run is so easy that you can turn your chat off.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literally every run because 95% of people doing them have either seen videos prior or run it before.
                If an entire group fucks up you usually have enough time for at least one other group to go help clean up their mess.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not for motherfucking Brionac, what are you talking about? If one group fucks it up or if the composition is off then we spend 20 minutes on the fight which is basically a fail-state anyways. And I've never in over 100 hours of Bozja seen a group carry all 6 prisoners. If East of West fucks it up that loot is GONE. Did we run the same content?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Brionac isn't an issue beyond not having drooling at the mouth retards in the lower group while simultaneously having low DPS in the upper group.
                And I didn't say one group can carry all 6 prisoners, one group can usually carry one other group's failures. You usually don't have multiple groups failing on prisoners.
                Not that full loot runs are even that relevant when the rewards are so mediocre.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. hasn't unlocked Bozja and makes things up on the internet

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's exactly what I'm saying and I've been playing since 2013 you ShB bandwagoning bitch.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bozja was good and I’m tired of acting like it was bad. Only bad thing about it is that the zones aren’t colorful like eureka but that makes sense because it’s a war zone that getting shelled nonstop.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Can't even reliable farm one of the most essential essences for melee
                Bozja fucking sucks man.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >then petition Yoshi-P to make a VN.
                What do you think FFXIV quests are? Storychads won.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >decide to watch a movie
        Yeah, I've done this. If your movie drags for too long and it's just useless padding for time to seem like it's a big 4 hour LOTR movie I'm out. And most movies are only 3 hours. Now imagine sitting through hundreds of hours of shit just for a fucking sprinkle.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >how many more quests i need to do to get to heavensward
      Fuck every gay who complains about this. This is when the story finally got good imo. Crystal Braves, Domans, Keeper of the Lake,etc.

      now we only get like 6 MSQs a patch because of fags like you

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        true
        imo post ARR > first half of HS
        actually I loved the msq since the noraxia kick, I don't know how anyone could think the game is boring past that point if you've been actually paying attention to the story

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      all the passive aggressive msq zealots woke up lol

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered :^)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >paying sub for ARR and HW
      Yeah you got filtered there by not using unlimited free trial. There's a free trial highlander tank sprout in /xivg/ who did all the extremes and sidequests available to him for free.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      you shouldnt have subbed, ARR and HW are free

      also combat isnt fun until around level 70

      story isnt good until shadowbringers

      the game sucks total shit until then, either suck it up so you can experience the best MMO on the market right now or forever be "filtered"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >story isnt good until ShB
        ShB is the only good story after HW, even EW had several shortcomings that normies can't see because they are retards

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This meme needs to be updated again with the new WoW expansions and with the MMOs killed by XIV placed in the grave

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    SILVER LIIIIIINE
    https://streamable.com/ck9xjw

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >DARK HORIZONS BOILING SEAAAAAAAS

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I can play FFXIV and have contact with actual biological women and non-shitskins.
    Can't say the same about any other mmo.
    t. non-american

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They aren't though.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather play fucking Flyff than FF14

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This thread be like
    >Yeah there's great things and flaws with both games, but I heavily prefer FFXIV.
    >WHY ARE YOU GATEKEEPING?

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wake me up when they allow us to challenge all content with trust party

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Savage Trusts
      the seething from raidfags would be funny

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        it will happen eventually. their goal is to let everyone get to see all content at their own pace.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          All the STORY content.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        wake me up when they allow us to challenge all content with trust party

        I fucking wished, westernoid statics are pozzed as fuck and full fo artificial gates, and despite all this they still play like shit

        You can do all content bar Ultimates/Eureka raid in PF, you don't need statics and it's faster/more fun. Why do you care?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because I don't wanna spend hours looking for the "right" party to do content, so I hope they add trusts for them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I fucking wished, westernoid statics are pozzed as fuck and full fo artificial gates, and despite all this they still play like shit

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So is this dungeon gear? Pretty rare for X.2 dungeon to not be reused assets.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody told me this top induces so much bounce

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      One day video games will make clothing that doesn't look painted on and then we'll get real bikini straps.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      what top?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        the reward from the newest Moonfaire event

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      that's what taking the limiters off will do to you

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not at 120fps, jiggle has ceased to exist for me because the physics are tied to framerate

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im fucking tired of trying to find a decent static thats not trash but doesnt try too hard to get orange parses.
    Fucking trash community it was so much better in Stormblood but now everyone has their quadra ultimate or youre trash mindset that its simply tiring.

    Stick with the pf, play with a small group of friends and fuck everyone else, thats the patrician way to play this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do that and ocassionally join a parse group to get oranges

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >parse fag

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'll let you in in a little something, people do like 5 runs back to back and leave instance fast, so they are great to gear up other jobs since most farm groups are a meme

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Whoever it is that keeps religiously making bait OPs should be cursed in Minecraft.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    goodbye, minos Lux.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are they changing about the fight?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        everything

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Adding more mog

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they're mogging it

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    why interact with anyone? just play the msq and go play a different game, its what i do and i love ffxiv

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So, Ysale will be a caster? Or perhaps omnirole, given that wol is tanking there.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We dont gate keep the game does that for us lol.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, the trannies and groomers are a pretty good filter.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This ain't WoW.
        You're far more likely to have issues with biogirls having to deal with chuds.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i've encountered more trannies in xiv than any other online game.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Which has nothing to do with what he said, yes there's trannies in XIV but there's also more real women too, at least compared to other MMOs

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              that's because it's "pretty" and 99% of the content is easier than Elmo's ABCs for N64.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                oooo me ruv big stong amelican man rong time, he fink finar fantashee fauteen so ez yayayayayaya

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I take it you're american then.
            Had friends who went on US servers and said it was just chuds and nogs.
            Biggest issue on euro is simps destroying fcs over real women.

            >biogirls
            We call them women, chud. Outed yourself. too easy.

            Nah I say biogirls and biowomen because i've seen chuds get assmad about it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Nah I say biogirls and biowomen because i've seen chuds get assmad about it.
              Well let me tell you the secret to really make them seethe. Inform them of their present status as men and how they will never, in fact, be women.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What you should call them is "body type 2" it makes them real happy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >it makes them so mad hehfhgrhgkhjrgajk
                It makes them say "Oh you're from Ganker" actually.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it genuinely makes them mad.
                I've heard chuds go "You know using that means you're a terrible person right?" in social contexts.
                Usually weirds out people who normally don't care when they get all aggressive about people admitting that real women exist and they're not one.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Either you take the internet way too seriously, or you're thirteen years old.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Anyone whose been around chuds in real life will know what I mean.
                It's kind of funny how you out yourselves this easily though.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have been, which is why I think you're an obsessed loser who's only seen them in pictures, Anon E. Moose. Go back to Kiwi Farms.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I usually make fun of this board, but you're giving off strong chud vibes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                t. terminally online fag who has some internet-derived idea about what chuds are like.
                Biogirl and biowoman causes them to seethe. Just like it made you jump out to go "no it totally doesn't!" before responding to every subsequent post while totally not being mad.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Biogirl and biowoman causes them to seethe.
                That causes them to block you for being annoying, which isn't seethe.
                >ur responding ur mad ur mad ur mad lmao!!!!
                You're right which is why I have decided I will get the last word. I will neither read your reply to this post nor respond to it

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >chuds block
                Yeah "blocking" in real life. Not a terminally online seething chud at all.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >biogirls
          We call them women, chud. Outed yourself. too easy.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i've encountered more trannies in xiv than any other online game.

          >biogirls
          We call them women, chud. Outed yourself. too easy.

          ive encountered more biowomen in this game than any other game in my life

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I encounter far, far more women in VR chat than this game.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              thats probably true but i dont play vrchat

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              VR chat isn't an MMO anon, it's not even a game it's just a social chat room so that obviously makes sense

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one said it was an mmo.
                >it's not a game
                of course it's a game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a chat room is a game

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's not a chat room, it's a game with a chat room.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you can literally play Doom in VR chat lmao. there's all kinds of gameplay players have incorporated into the sandbox over the years.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You can play Doom in VR Chat
                So why not just play the original Doom

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why not just play VR chat or Second Life instead of dealing with FFXIV's dogshit housing system?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Presumably because FFXIV is a video game and VRChat is a chat room, wanting to enjoy a video game is not the same as enjoying a chatroom?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                FFXIV isn't a video game, it's a movie with a collection of arcade minigames tacked onto it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Don't strain yourself with that impressive stretch

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >i can be reductive and it's ok
                >you aren't allowed though

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can be reductive if you like but we both know there's a difference between a game having curated and designed gameplay and "players can attempt to make minigames out of the barebones sandbox we gave them to chat in"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >noooooo sandbox games aren't video games!!!
                You might be clinically retarded.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a game having curated and designed gameplay
                it's literally just a bunch of mindless chores. 99% of the gameplay in ffxiv is less engaging than mario.

                No I wouldn't because Garrys mod is a sandbox designed for gameplay, VRChat is a sandbox designed for nothing but chatting with 3D avatars

                [...]
                No one said that ESL

                >No one said that ESL
                you verbatim said that VR Chat isnt a video game, retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >99% of the gameplay in ffxiv is less engaging than mario.
                Welcome to MMO's vs Single Player games, but I appreciate you admitting the 1% of gameplay that transcends it and the reason why we actually enjoy MMO's.

                It isn't but that doesn't extend to actual sandbox games like Garrys Mod

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >It isn't
                It is, obviously. We've explained this to you repeatedly, and in exceedingly clear terms.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But you didn't, I asked what the gameplay was like and you said "You can play doom within it" or "other players have made some minigames" which is a hilarious cope, the fact no one even spoke about what they made or did in it makes me crack up

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I asked what the gameplay was like and you said "You can play doom within it"
                I mean, that alone is enough to qualify it as a video game. Anything else is some arbitrary definition that you incomprehensibly think it has to meet.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Still doesn't talk the actual gameplay
                You can make minigames in Minecraft but I'm sure you recognize Minecraft is also its own game right? Care to share what you do in VRChat that isn't engaging with someone else's creation and instead your own?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can make minigames in minecraft
                >minecraft is a video game
                >you can make minigames in VR chat
                >vr chat is a video game
                yes, very good.
                >Care to share what you do in VRChat that isn't engaging with someone else's creation and instead your own?
                If you're playing Doom in VR chat you are engaging with both VR Chat and a minigame someone made in VR chat. Not sure how that's confusing for you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Minecraft has gameplay
                >You can make Minigames
                >VRChat has no gameplay
                >You can make Minigames
                I know you're slow anon but before replying see if you can find the difference

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >VRChat has no gameplay
                I literally just explained to you that you can play Doom in VR Chat. I spoonfed this to you multiple times.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Let him be stupid in peace, he's not interested in actually talking about this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Doom is a player created minigame, not inherent gameplay, please reread until you are able to comprehend the difference

                >Minecraft has gameplay
                >You can make Minigames
                >VRChat has no gameplay
                >You can make Minigames
                I know you're slow anon but before replying see if you can find the difference

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Doom is a player created minigame, not inherent gameplay
                What does that have to do with anything?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The entire point from the beginning was that VRChat does not have gameplay, you are leaning on a player made creation to justify the game having gameplay. You're not even justifying it by giving examples of what the average player creates when they open the game. Lets imagine this from Day 1 of the games release, without player Created mods or minigames - describe the gameplay. You can't because there's literally nothing to do other than stand around and chat, the game is not designed for the average use to open the game and start playing with a sandbox which is why the average player is not creating anything, it's the turbo autists/modders that create content for other people to do. Other games like Minecraft or Garrys mod have significant gameplay for people to immediately enjoy because they are designed to be video games, not chat rooms.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, I see what you're saying. You think the devs have to design something as a video game for it to be one. Simply having gameplay isn't enough.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You may want to reread that

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, I wrote what I did very intentionally. You've excluded gameplay as a qualifier for something to be a video game, it has to have originally been designed with gameplay for it to count. That's your argument.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You might want to reread the original post

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, if you want to argue with me you can explain what you believe I got wrong.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have no interest in arguing with someone who despite being told the problem repeatedly, willfully chooses to ignore it and argue dishonestly and then when it is explained clearly, gets the point so wrong as to almost completely invert the entire thing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I didn't get it wrong, you just don't understand your own point. It's extremely funny.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The entire point from the beginning was that VRChat does not have gameplay
                >You think the devs have to design something as a video game for it to be one. Simply having gameplay isn't enough.
                Please reread the original post

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The entire point from the beginning was that VRChat does not have gameplay
                VR Chat does have gameplay, as I've explained in exceedingly clear terms.

                Your argument is that it didn't *originally* have gameplay, therefore it isn't a video game now, despite the fact that it now has gameplay.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Please reread the original post and while you're at it, stop backpeddling

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have reread it, that's indeed your argument. If you disagree, explain.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I have explained it to you multiple times, you repeatedly change your argument or double down on justifying it without explanation when you're shown to be wrong or realize that you misunderstood the argument, there's really nothing more that can be said

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't changed my argument at all. I've maintained that VR Chat is a game, because it contains gameplay, and that is indeed objectively true.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So rationally with your own current argument before people created minigames, would you accept it was not a game even if you now consider it one?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, just like how base Garry's Mod wouldn't have been a video game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not him but only reason to "play" VRchat is RP and thats all there is to it, playing other games within it can be done better by modding the other crap

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Okay? No one said anything that contradicted any of this.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >curated and designed boss fights

                Everything else is set dressing for the story in ffxiv.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cmon anon, you can do better than that.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't RP and I don't care about the awful housing system. In fact, am glad its shit, gotta push RPfags to play the game instead of wasting time on RP centrals

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                > you can literally play Doom in VR chat lmao.
                so an internet browser is a video game?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, because browser games are their own software. Browsers are more like consoles or VMs, or operating systems.

                Minigames in VR Chat are literally just VR Chat.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                VRchat is a game in the same way Furcadia and Second Life were games, I find Civilization and other city-builders to be insufferably boring but I wouldn't say they're not games

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But Second Life isn't a game, I have no idea what Furcadia is. The Civilization thing makes no sense, what exactly is the gameplay in VRchat?

                It's not a chat room, it's a game with a chat room.

                What's the gameplay like in VR chat? What's the skill floor/ceiling like?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What's the gameplay like in VR chat? What's the skill floor/ceiling like?
                I can't tell if you're joking or if you're actually this retarded. VR Chat has a huge variety of minigames that players incorporate into the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Players incorporate into the game
                So VRChat is just a sandbox with no actual gameplay but if you like you can try make a simple shit game within it?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                would you say garry's mod isn't a video game, under this logic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No I wouldn't because Garrys mod is a sandbox designed for gameplay, VRChat is a sandbox designed for nothing but chatting with 3D avatars

                >noooooo sandbox games aren't video games!!!
                You might be clinically retarded.

                No one said that ESL

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >a sandbox designed for gameplay
                It's a sandbox designed for the Source Engine, not for gameplay.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            There is indeed more biowomen in this game, biowomen go to whatever is the new fad, many came from WoW or its just their first MMO

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate chud arguments but come on.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            American servers?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Figures. I hear it's all trannies and gay morons.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >/shout chat baits
            >screencap it
            >WTF ARE THEY REAL???

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Denial.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, pretending you weren't baited is denial. That's why people post things they know will make you upset.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He is right, chuds are usually busy chuding in their own cliques, women just have this need to visit as many places as possible and take a shit on the overall experience of said content, unless they are the silent type

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            this mental illness celebration also occurs in WoW. Hell not even OSRS is safe anymore.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The absolute state of NA servers

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >think about tanking
    >panic attack
    Please god give me some confidence…

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you die blame the healer

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this mentality doesnt make sense anymore
      they've removed stances
      removed enmity combos
      all jobs have a good aoe kit
      all of them have similar defensive cds
      wtf are you people scared of tanking for? its just a dps that mobs target

  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So what's the first thing you guys are going to do in 6.2?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MSQ then pandaemonium. Then island.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bully Scarmiglione

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MSQ then pandaemonium. Then island.

      this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MSQ, craft new combat gear, cap tomes then logout for a week until there's something to do. Oh wait there's a new extreme right? Then I suppose I might spend a few days doing that if it's fun, depending on how much I feel like farming 99 totems

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      MSQ, then raids, then unlock Island Sanctuary, then farm Extreme until I get the weapon, then stay on the Island forever

  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When will we get the FF10 themed expansion?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm sure it'll happen one day.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Take me back to that era.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We going to see him again next patch?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      thought we killed that dude with the magic rod. though I guess he could have simply been sent back to the void

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the rod does is sever their bond to our world and kill their corporeal form. So yeah, it's just forcing him back into the Thirteenth.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope we do as a supporting character, he's not like to start shit on the Void where he can actually, permanently die. We've kicked his ass three or four times now and two of those were after becoming one of the most powerful Voidsent in the universe, and after being loaded into an Allagan primal weapon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Diabolos will join the scions.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How will the Void measure up as a threat compared to the Endsinger and the Final Days?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's probably in some Voidsent jail for killing Scathach.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      we literally fucked his soul up in dalriada
      no chance, surely?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He can get beat up and die but he'll still fuck off to the Void on death.

        I'm still in the free trial, I just got SCH to lvl 53, swapped to AST and got that to 53 too. As they're both incomplete and everything so far has been a faceroll they both fucking suck, which is better at 90?

        SCH is better mechanically but I prefer SGE for the aesthetics. It starts at lv. 70 and plays similarly to SCH.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >SCH is better mechanically
          I'll swap back to SCH then, i thought i'd have more abilities for the fairy by now. but im guessing the job got downgraded/stretched across the multiple xpacs

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Either it's radically changed since I tried it or you're full of shit. I remember the community having more of a passive aggressive/toxic positivity thing going on than elitism

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's still there, but it added elitism to the list when EW dropped. What happened with EW to where the fanbase turned into insufferable gays almost overnight?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        all the wowfugees got bored and went to lost ark or back to wow, so xiv cultists needed a new cope.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      looks like some kind of reflect mechanic.

  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So Zenos is coming back?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      No, he's dead. Bringing him back again after his life peaked, finally and definitively, at the end of the universe and fighting WoL fresh from victory over the Endsinger, would be character assassination

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Matsuno is a hack and I hope he doesn't return

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wooden booba

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nophica looks like THAT?!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        she's too small in certain areas to be Nophica.

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Explain to me how I'm not supposed to be elitist when I've been playing this game for 10 years and you started playing it because some gay streamer or YouTube grifter told you to

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because we ZODIARK TRANCED!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What is Zodiark Trance?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Something that will make you cringe

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Do the fucking morons who make shit like this not understand that Azem and Venat were good friends and alike?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Those people also forget that Azem was against the summoning of Zodiark too

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              People who make comments such as these forget that he was also against summoning of Hydaelyn.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I don't recall the game ever stating his opinion on Hydaelyn/Sundering.
                I think it is more likely Azem was just off dealing with something else and just not involved.

                But I don't really give a fuck. I don't want to hear about Azem or Ancients again. Too many dumb Shadowbringer fanboys actually think WoL is Azem in a literal sense.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                WoL left Venat's message to join her death cult on (Read) according to 5.2 scene after Anamnesis and left to "do whatever (You) imagine he'd do :)". So it's unlikely we'll ever hear about him ever again.
                >Too many dumb Shadowbringer fanboys actually think WoL is Azem in a literal sense.
                They are both undefined wandering heroes with questionable moral fiber and preference for the most inane questlines imaginable, they might as well be the same people since reincarnation seems to work particularly well for WoL.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My headcanon is that WoL was PUTTING TOGETHER A TEAM to fight Meteion and then Venat killed everyone before he could shove his boot up her ass.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My headcanon is that the retard was probably getting into troubles in soem faraway place or fucking one of Hermes retard birds, I just cant picture Azem doing anything helpful

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Azem is the help people person. So they were probably helping other smaller towns that couldn’t deal with the monsters.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hes just stockpiling grapes

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I personally thought Azem was protecting some town from becoming Zodiark feed

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >protecting some town from becoming Zodiark feed
                Zodiark was a consensual thing, he didnt feed on anyone that wasnt willing.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, and their hate for Venat is super strong. So strong that forgot that wanted us to kill her.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can't fucking look at derplander anymore without laughing my ass off.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        what I understand is that some reddit gay said the story was shit and made up some shitty fanfic about a "better ending" for ew

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the story is shit
          but there's no fanfic that can redeem it

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            any story (in or outside gaming) is shit
            life is shit, there is nothing to enjoy, only seeking lower levels of shittiness until you die

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        a hilariously edgy idea dreamed up by an autist who hates Venat

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds understandable, she was a pretty shitty tacked on character

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hate Venat and even I think that comic was trash.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          *unzips* Zodiark Trance these nuts

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        unironic redditposting

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kino cringe.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Walk

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Venat tells everyone to walk... But WoL flies everywhere. What did she mean by this?

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Elves are the best race anyway, if you don't play Elf, you have shit taste.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      terrible animations, giraffe necks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >giraffe necks
        they need that for the dick

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >giraffe necks
        That means they're built for deepthroating.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Giraffe necks are cute and make them stand out, I love them being lanky motherfuckers in XI and XIV

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The day the fix the run animation I'm fantaing

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Demotion

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      was there a problem with people not trying in crystal or something?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, people wintrading or playing troll jobs. There's some people at crystal that are autolose on your team, to name a few from Aether Sachi Alt-f-four, Senjuro Kenshin, Anna Bella

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        People would win trade with a alt account and nothing could be done about it because you couldn’t derank

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >savage weapons already btfo ultimate weapons
      wew laddie

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wonder if this is the DRK relic weapon

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t. doesn't play DRK

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, where would I get that weapon?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          prob the tome weapon, since as an anon in a previous thread pointed out, very similar to the NIN tome weapon we saw

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >things Hispanice up in the normal story at and after Ifrit
            more like Titan

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's criminal how shit the bow looks as always

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >savage weapons already btfo ultimate weapons
      wew laddie

      the best part about this is that they tried to make it less worth than ultimate by making it less over the top.
      but that was exactly what you needed to make it look better.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I hope the third savage tier doesn't look like shit for once

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I hope you don't look like shit for once

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Every time I see caster and healer gear like this I pray that the skirt is not part of the chest piece. I know it's futile.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Wear the Crystarium armor from MSQ

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        first tier was limbo not heaven
        third tier is heaven

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've wanted a swordspear for Dragoon for so long and I'm so mad it's Savage onry.

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    MMOs got infected by the wrong people and then devs started catering to them because they're the loudest. That's half the reason the genre's dead.

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It breaks the idea that they're not some holy inviolable thing that can never be changed. They were slightly changed a long time ago, and if they had continued to be changed bit by bit with each patch/expansion, they'd be in a better place now.

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >no pubes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's about time XIV got a top tier milf like Ameliance, she needs more porn.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Thoughts on Island Sanctuary? Is anyone actually excited for it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, tons of people. even after hearing what it's about.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      meh
      I'll forget about it within 2 days but I'm dead inside so I don't know if others can find fun in it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There are flora logs and stuff so my autism already compels me to spend hundred of hours on this

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah, I was looking forward to it but the cosmetic rewards are dogshit I mean look at the shit tier overalls it feels like we've had multiple times already

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some casual little "WoL chills out" stuff sounds fun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll try it but I'm still not expecting much even after the presentation.
      It seems too much of a 'we did the best system we could with what we have right now' sort of mini game that can never deliver the hype that everyone's conned themselves into.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    UMMMM YOUR GOING TO TURN YOUR TANK STANCE ON IF YOUR A TANK, RIGHT?

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no Sharalyan bros!

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ironically Sharlayan will probably accept the magitek goobers with open arms since they've got a totally new educational field

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea compared to garlemald the other parts of the world are legit cave men. But makes sense seeing how they went the magic route and not the technology one.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if Garlean tech will actually be implemented in any part of the game or if devs will just be too lazy as usual and keep everything the same.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        doubt it but it would be nice to have a radio to change the mount music

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >portable orchestrion to play our music collection whenever we want
          Why haven't they added this yet?!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hopefully Godbert uses their tech to make more Gold Saucer games.
        What always confused me though is why more of Eorzea didn't have trains. Uldah has a train system, although we've never actually seen it.

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    man, Lahabrea makes me wish we had more old-guy faces available

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    mmorpgs are failed social experiments

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Xiv lacks a challenging endgame so they try their best to put on a guise that it's hard and for elites, (game revolves around yelling in shout chat and afking in cities)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      XIV endgame is more challenging than other MMO's so I'm not sure what you're trying to say

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone else in the 6.3 waiting lobby since like...1 month after savage dropped? Need at least 3 big patches since I beat literally everything else in the game.

    >tfw they're changing earlier raids fights / dungeons along with trusts so it's "technically" new content

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why specifically 3 patches why not just wait till all 5 come out

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe it's like a halfway point for her

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you a Freedom Fighter or are you a Global Citizen?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      How are they alive? Didn't we see their planet get Terminatored and nuked? Or are they just recreations like the other aliens?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I hope we can get their gear as a MCH. I'd like to combine the helmet with the late allagan set.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are we getting a secret ra-la mount too?

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I haven't played 6.1
    What's the mount from Elephantbro Beast Tribes?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      hippo racing cart

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I HATE THE RUBY DRAGON
    I HATE THE RUBY DRAGON
    I HATE THE RUBY DRAGON
    I HATE THE RUBY DRAGON
    I HATE THE RUBY DRAGON

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Screencap the rest of the conversation where I am 99% sure red's response is "ok retard"

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it's ff14 so they'd just type 'ok' and/or shut the fuck up so they don't get reported

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm still in the free trial, I just got SCH to lvl 53, swapped to AST and got that to 53 too. As they're both incomplete and everything so far has been a faceroll they both fucking suck, which is better at 90?

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  75. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >All the XI gays screeching mog garden instantly BTFO'd by one image
      Can't wait for comfy kino

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Are you retarded? This is moggarden with Ishgard Restorian reward system on top of it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >with ishgard resto reward system on top of it
          thank god, I was worried

  76. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    i cant make it to the top bros... its impossible...

  77. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the state of pldsissies and warcucks

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >RPR
      Wew, talk about a hyped up job that immediately fell out everyone's radar once savage released.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Reaper got nerfed into the ground, people play classes for their performance which is exactly what this breakdown shows.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The only thing that got nerfed was its already weak heal potency from crest breaking.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.fflogs.com/zone/rankings/44#boss=82&metric=dps

            Look at all those reapers, how mysterious the melee that don't appear are the lowest in Ultimate, almost as if people play classes entirely based on performance.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I'm not denying that, but it's damage was never nerfed. It was always this bad compared to the rest.

  78. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We know we won

  79. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    UNLEASH LAHABREA

  80. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I CANT BELIEVE THEY'RE GIVING OUT THE NEW SLUTWEAR SWIMSUIT FOR FREEE

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      too bad it dyes like SHIT

  81. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It really ought to be, the competitive PvP in this game was butchered in favor of casualized garbage. The prior mode, the Feast, had rewards for the top 100 players of each datacenter which meant only several hundred could get those unique and prestigious rewards, like pic rel. It was the only reward from doing the Feast so casuals threw a fit like usual over not getting anything but the dev team does not give a shit and respects former Feast PvPers in keeping these old rewards exclusive. I told off a sprout the other day for even mentioning that they should bring these rewards back, they don't realize the struggle players had to go through to get these rare armors and mounts to begin with.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody liked Feast.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I liked it, it had actual rewards for one instead of a stupid plate and title. If they ever bring back old Feast rewards you can expect to see massive outrage. Might as well start giving out legacy tattoos because nothing is sacred.

        don't act like feast wasn't completely overrun with wintrading

        Factually and utterly incorrect, 99% of the leaderboards are legitimate across all DCs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >it had actual rewards for one
          Dummy
          >If they ever bring back old Feast rewards
          Hellhound weapons were already brought back as a Wolf Collar reward, you can trade them for crystal trophies from doing CC. Nobody was outraged 'cuz nobody played Feast.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You could literally earn hellhound weapons by placing in bronze a couple seasons, NOT TOP 100. Nobody cares about the hellhound weapons anyways, especially knowing you will NEVER get the armor complementing it. And this was confirmed by Yoshi-P himself as he respects PvP's rare rewards and items and does not ever intend to bring them back in any way shape or form.

            >99% of the leaderboards are legitimate across all DCs.
            Coping retard, just see the latest season retard.
            Also
            >pvp with no anticheat

            Haven't seen any hackers on my DC, any excuse to invalidate PvP.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >does not ever intend to bring them back in any way shape or form.
              citation needed

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/55927097.html
                >Q. Are there any plans to create a way to obtain past feast reward mounts?
                >A. No, we do not. We believe that those mounts were the result of our efforts to get into the rankings back then. P. Yoshida himself, as a gamer, thinks it is important to have such rare items.
                Never going to happen.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Feastchads won.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Looks shitty just like the Bozja gear, the Hellfire gear and the new Savage gear.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sour grapes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If it looked good I'd be extremely salty for sure, some of the mounts do look cool but mounts are largely irrelevant

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >2019

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >An interview from 2019 even before CC was even a thing.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Haven't seen any hackers on my DC
              head in the sand, or you just dont play at all

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >99% of the leaderboards are legitimate across all DCs.
          Coping retard, just see the latest season retard.
          Also
          >pvp with no anticheat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      don't act like feast wasn't completely overrun with wintrading

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The new PvP is way better, hence why its actually popular now. The old PvP was extremely niche and had wintrading problems. They are probably going to bring back the old sets, but not exactly. They'll probably change some of the trim colors/update the textures or something and release that instead so its not the exact same. Both sides should be happy with that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >wintrading problems
        There's still a lot of wintrading in both CC and Frontlines.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Frontlines is not only plagued with wintrading, there's also cliques going around, like when summoner was the hottest shit you would have premade statics playing nothing but summoner.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            But that’s not win trading, just people playing together

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Don't forget that some premades will throw the fight for their Discord buddies in another alliance.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >do something really retarded in fl like jump into a huge murder ball as a DRK
              I swear I just have the bloodlust and think my team is still with me

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They said old sets would be coming back as part of seasonal rewards but I have no idea if mounts are coming back. I've asked around for PvP seasonal winners what they think and only a very minor(as in 1 in 20) disagree with the rewards coming back and pvp changes. Anon is just salty about his "nobody played it" content not coming back while modt rewards have been confirmed to come back.
        I do think however seasonal titles arent coming back at all though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        There is still lots of wintrading.
        And because its popular, you see a lot more of hacking. Did you forgot the streamer having a meltdown because of a speedhacker when Feast was booming?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They already have reskins, they don't need more and the don't need to return, ever. Let people who earned those rewards actually have their fucking rewards instead of being given out to FL casuals.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wow, it's Roland! Crossposting, yet again! Everyone say hello! Feast isn't come back! 🙂

  82. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >No fall guys XIV crossover
    Would be perfect for the summer tower climb

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could do with a Y'shtola costume in Fall Guys, Mai Shiranui got one

  83. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >spent the past 2 hours talking about XIV instead of playing it

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      good, now queue for msq roulette for a high-engagement gameplay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I find it more fun to discuss the game as well

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's nothing to do for 3 weeks anon so why not talk about it or play something else

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >nothing to do
        JOIN ME IN THE FRONTLINE REVELRY

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          fuck off nobody cares about your shit pvp mode

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Only reason I’m in the thread and not playing the game is because I’m at work

  84. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    https://novacrystallis.com/2022/08/final-fantasy-xiv-live-letter-72-summary-patch-6-2-launches-august-23/

  85. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Be in FC for a while now
    >Joined because one of them randomly tell’d me
    >Around 9-12 active people
    >Probably an equal split between real men and women
    >They do maps and savage weekly
    >They do lots of posing and use very edgy/goth mods
    >They do a fair amount of erp and lewd posing
    >Everyone’s chill and friendly
    >Borderline zero drama
    >Despite me taking long breaks from the game often, they always say hi when I log back on
    >People talk to me, I have friends in it
    >Whenever I need help someone’s there to help
    This FC’s turned out to be really nice. I love my den of degenerates

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have no idea how lucky you are. It's insanely difficult to find people that are loose enough to enjoy casual ERP and lewd posting but also have enough sanity not to confuse fiction with reality and ruin everything when they become insane over the pretend relationships that form as a result of such mentalities.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because those are the type of people who wrote this shit.

        >DUAL WIELD

        Every time I open twitter and scroll down on the trending tab it shows me the FFXIV topic. And every time, there is at least one post that is just the purest embodiment of self-wank cringe. People writing about their fucking WoLs with shit like “they became the next Hydaelyn” and “Imagine telling someone your Ascian plot to try and get them on board only for them to just respond by asking how their tea is”. Just shit that makes my skin crawl with how masturbatory and, usually, completely lore-breaking it is. It feels like it’s written by people who never actually played the game and instead based it off of angsty discord posts that their ffxiv-playing friend made.

  86. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hey
    Psst
    You wanna see bot action ingame?
    Go to Mare Lamentorum, the small fishing area cave where you talk to the dog the first time through.

    Full of <<Wanderers>> Botting away, turning in fish to scrips to sell.

    Every server, I guarantee it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You sound like a Namazu that is trying to sell me something.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just go check it out, it's funny!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes, we know its full of bots, in every aspect
          nobody cares, because they are smart enough to hide it from normies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yea I seen that, I still wonder why they even do that because gil is worthless and only retards would try to rmt and get banned

  87. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            fwosh fwosh!

            This is pretty good where can I read the full thing?

            the redditor deleted it

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              but im posting the full thing anyway so just wait a bit

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the end

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                fwosh fwosh!
                [...]
                the redditor deleted it

                Please stop, I can’t take the cringe

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I mean, Meteion literally stop the fight for "We are praying for the power of friendship" shit.
                You should be immune to this type of cringe.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But she is a cute bird girl

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I alone is enough for this fight

            I can see the three wolf moon t-shirt on author as they wrote this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is pretty good where can I read the full thing?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://twitter.com/varlfhanred/status/1553812471344812034

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why does this stuff give me the same feelings I get when I watch fucking Kingdom Hearts Parking Lot. Why does it feel just so visceral

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because those are the type of people who wrote this shit.

          >DUAL WIELD

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      While the whole comic is the general low hanging fruit kind of cringe, I'd like to appreciate the bottom panel of this page. The back turned toward the reader, face hidden as to leave the emotions going through WoL's head to readers imagination, the beginning of a monologue all drip with the 2000~s chuuni bullshit so hard you could swear there's Linking Park playing somewhere nearby. I great, I hate it.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wish the comic had worse art, poorly drawn stuff makes stuff filled with cringe look much more 2000s

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      While the whole comic is the general low hanging fruit kind of cringe, I'd like to appreciate the bottom panel of this page. The back turned toward the reader, face hidden as to leave the emotions going through WoL's head to readers imagination, the beginning of a monologue all drip with the 2000~s chuuni bullshit so hard you could swear there's Linking Park playing somewhere nearby. I great, I hate it.

      >wow thats so kino, mind if I borrow the idea for uhmmm, a project of mine

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