Because their favorite fighter gay got a sponsorship deal and the majority of Ganker forgot the highest ranking percentile of top players just use a regular pad and tournament gays are subhuman mutts
Because it's small. One of the biggest gripes about fightsticks are that they are big fricking boxes and the stick protrudes, making it a pain to carry and store safely without damaging it. That's the only reason that I see as an actual benefit. If that's not a concern, get a different stick, box or pad.
If a keyboard like this could plug into a console or PC and be recognized as a proper input device instantly, you wouldn't need a snack or hitbox.
You certainly can, many fighting game players do that already.
That's a big market for button boxes, so they can play on console at tournaments.
Most common is using space as up, if you use WASD that's like a mixbox.
They're cool, as customizable as a skateboard, and slamming out combos like a gorilla is part of the fun of FGs.
Also why the frick are Qanba making revamps of ALL their shit? The Obsidian is perfect as-is and any target demographic the other two have are already being filled by the Drone 1 and Hori's shit.
Because I have the hands of a grown man and don't want to uncomfortably squish my fingers together on a keyboard
I can barely use a switch joycon without cramping for petes sake
The EternalRival cases are pretty good and easy to assemble, just make sure you pick the right size for your preference. The owner is pretty responsive if you have any questions for the cases too. The J500B is okay but the quality is pretty cheap feeling all around but if it's your first controller it's decent to get you by but not exactly good either.
If you play on just PC with no need for PS4/Xbox support the PCB can be as cheap as $10. But multi platform support will run you $50 but certain next gen consoles require a further upgrade but you can still play the PS4 versions on PS5 for example.
i have the 65 dollar one. the key mapping is shit but can be easily solved with the steam controller thing or something other key mapper. it's pretty good for it's price.
however, i would not buy anything with a shallow microswitch for it's buttons like the op; they don't depress far down enough to for a good feedback.
I bought an eternal rival high-tier case from their site instead of Etsy. Pic related
Good for a cheap enclosure. The acrylic panels don't seamlessly fit when putting it together, but it is sturdy once you screw it all together and tighten it up.
Only complaints would be i wish i went with Noir layout as my hands are too small for Sega2P and the bottom edge digs into my hands while I'm playing.
Could probably sand it down or something but I don't use it that much to bother.
and kind of a 3d printed piece of shit, i got one of the first batches so they seem better now but the opening for the usb cable wasnt bigger enough for the cable they provide so i had to cut it open more with an exacto knife, the top plate doesnt align with the buttons correctly which doesnt affect gameplay but is ugly as hell and one of the buttons on the bottom plate always comes loose eventually even though i tighten it as much as possible. i bet they pick and choose the best ones that come out of the machine and give them to content creators
Playing a fighting game with a joystick seems like the objectively more fun experience, but if you're trying to play competitively, using actual buttons just makes more sense.
>gets mad that Hitbox wants to sue them >they also get mad and threatened people who started making open source project for slim stickless controllers
you can't make this shit up.
Not going to buy one because I actually prefer my stick to have some weight/size to it since it makes it feel better when I have it in my lap but I do think they look extremely cute
It's a hitbox but it's small and easily portable and also uses low-profile switches so buttons activate fast. It's good but it's also overpriced. I recommend trying to build a similar small hitbox on your own.
Why are the putting the slimness over the modular design? A lot of people would love one of these things where you can switch out between a stick and a hitbox setup. Who the frick actually switches between Hitbox and WASD?
Should use the form of the Neo Geo Pocket Color's Stick. Effectively an inverted stick hitting four microswitches on the underside. Would easily fit into a half inch height frame.
its not just about lever
whole thing is pretty thick and needs decent amount of space to fit its internal parts
even if you go mare minimum and make it 40mm that still pretty large amount comparatively to your 15mm slimbox pad
How do I make my hitbox buttons quieter? Someone link me to some quiet buttons or foam qashers or something for this thing so I don't wake my wife and baby at night.
Do these even do anything or is it the FGC version of gamer audiophile equipment? I can understand going with a stick over controller as this is what fighting games were designed to be played with back in the arcades but it seems to me that your inherent skill is more important than your input method, if you're good you're gonna be good even with a PS3 controller if you suck you're gonna suck even with the most advanced expensive meme input device out there. And, guys, you can't consistently do a shoryuken with whatever you have? Even 8yo me could do that on a SNES pad.
I distinctly remember flipping the PS1 pad upside down and tapping down and forward instead of making a half-moon in SFA3 to trigger certain moves with the shotos >why
No clue, I just know shit like messatsu goshoryu didn't come out if I tried to do it legit. If I tapped like this it worked 99% of the time. >but why upside down
No clue, that's literally the only way it worked.
in theory, it has 2 advantages over stick
1 - you can input directions faster since it is a button press instead of moving the entire stick to the desired direction
2 - you can do "impossible" inputs, such as holding both up and down at the same time
in practice these are completely irrelevant for 99.9% of the playerbase and these controllers will be far more of a hindrance than a benefit
easier directionals and easier double taps since its just button press are objective advantages, there is nothing theoretical about it
but button dpad has its own "initial" hindrances like getting used to hcf and hcb inputs, or "ring finger" issue where some people can't play as well on p2 side
There is a a slight learning curve however I would say that for even an average player a few weeks of use and they'll be doing better than on a controller or stick, aside from much faster/impossible inputs there is very little to no chance of getting overzealous or panicked and putting yourself into a jump which a lot of new or casual players will do pretty frequently
>installed PS2 silicon membranes (they're not stiff like PS1/PSC stock membranes) >overclocked USB polling
This is genuinely what I like to use for PC fightans. Kneel.
>hot >can barely see the screen >either lying on your stomach to play or hunched over like a sasquatch
idk if this was meant to look comfy but it looks the exact opposite
Because it's basically a keyboard that you can connect to PS4s/PS5s which are the standard platforms for tournaments. People use them because they kill off the travel time you get for your motions on stick while being more precise
When will fighting game gays get their own board
Sick of those morons
relax anon there are fighting games on your bing bing wahoo machine also, dont need to be so hostile
it's the same thing as a $50 keyboard but fighting game players are moronic so they pay $500 for a super special pro keyboard. That's really it
>$120
wins evos
Let me guess
You need more.
Because their favorite fighter gay got a sponsorship deal and the majority of Ganker forgot the highest ranking percentile of top players just use a regular pad and tournament gays are subhuman mutts
Because it's small. One of the biggest gripes about fightsticks are that they are big fricking boxes and the stick protrudes, making it a pain to carry and store safely without damaging it. That's the only reason that I see as an actual benefit. If that's not a concern, get a different stick, box or pad.
If a keyboard like this could plug into a console or PC and be recognized as a proper input device instantly, you wouldn't need a snack or hitbox.
Faster d pad inputs than a stick, that's it.
Still seems like you can use wasd and your numpad keys and get the same results. Idk
You certainly can, many fighting game players do that already.
That's a big market for button boxes, so they can play on console at tournaments.
Most common is using space as up, if you use WASD that's like a mixbox.
They're cool, as customizable as a skateboard, and slamming out combos like a gorilla is part of the fun of FGs.
Also why the frick are Qanba making revamps of ALL their shit? The Obsidian is perfect as-is and any target demographic the other two have are already being filled by the Drone 1 and Hori's shit.
It's just a keyboard with less keys. Why anyone uses anything other than a keyboard for fighting games is beyond me.
it's because you can't plug a keyboard into a ps4
Yes you can
keyboard keys don't feel good
Because I have the hands of a grown man and don't want to uncomfortably squish my fingers together on a keyboard
I can barely use a switch joycon without cramping for petes sake
because devs dont ever account for someone having the ability to instantly move after doing certain inputs so a controller was made to abuse this
is any of this cheaper shit worth it? etsy btw
no way in frick i'm i paying more than 100~ for a controller. hitbox/snack/etc all 220-250 is bullshit
The EternalRival cases are pretty good and easy to assemble, just make sure you pick the right size for your preference. The owner is pretty responsive if you have any questions for the cases too. The J500B is okay but the quality is pretty cheap feeling all around but if it's your first controller it's decent to get you by but not exactly good either.
If you play on just PC with no need for PS4/Xbox support the PCB can be as cheap as $10. But multi platform support will run you $50 but certain next gen consoles require a further upgrade but you can still play the PS4 versions on PS5 for example.
i have the 65 dollar one. the key mapping is shit but can be easily solved with the steam controller thing or something other key mapper. it's pretty good for it's price.
however, i would not buy anything with a shallow microswitch for it's buttons like the op; they don't depress far down enough to for a good feedback.
I bought an eternal rival high-tier case from their site instead of Etsy. Pic related
Good for a cheap enclosure. The acrylic panels don't seamlessly fit when putting it together, but it is sturdy once you screw it all together and tighten it up.
Only complaints would be i wish i went with Noir layout as my hands are too small for Sega2P and the bottom edge digs into my hands while I'm playing.
Could probably sand it down or something but I don't use it that much to bother.
>$250
and kind of a 3d printed piece of shit, i got one of the first batches so they seem better now but the opening for the usb cable wasnt bigger enough for the cable they provide so i had to cut it open more with an exacto knife, the top plate doesnt align with the buttons correctly which doesnt affect gameplay but is ugly as hell and one of the buttons on the bottom plate always comes loose eventually even though i tighten it as much as possible. i bet they pick and choose the best ones that come out of the machine and give them to content creators
Use loctite c**t
holy shit thats fricking awful. i would ask for a refund, what horrible quality control
Playing a fighting game with a joystick seems like the objectively more fun experience, but if you're trying to play competitively, using actual buttons just makes more sense.
is the dualsense good enough for fightan?
i'm still using the xbone controller which i know is trash for fightan
xbone controller has the best dpad for fighting games imo
The dualsense is fantastic in every regard EXCEPT the dpad. That shit is gummy and awful
>sony still refuses to use the Vita D-Pad on their controllers
Fricking morons.
>gets mad that Hitbox wants to sue them
>they also get mad and threatened people who started making open source project for slim stickless controllers
you can't make this shit up.
Not going to buy one because I actually prefer my stick to have some weight/size to it since it makes it feel better when I have it in my lap but I do think they look extremely cute
It's cute and probably made for traveling. I've always heard traveling with sticks is a major pain in the ass (not literally).
No different than traveling with anything else bulky get a backpack you're already at a fighting game tourney you have having no one to show off for
any recommended chink fightstick cases?
It's a hitbox but it's small and easily portable and also uses low-profile switches so buttons activate fast. It's good but it's also overpriced. I recommend trying to build a similar small hitbox on your own.
Here's your controller bro.
>no option for a stick
Dumb
you can't really go slim with stick internals
Why are the putting the slimness over the modular design? A lot of people would love one of these things where you can switch out between a stick and a hitbox setup. Who the frick actually switches between Hitbox and WASD?
okay what if
Should use the form of the Neo Geo Pocket Color's Stick. Effectively an inverted stick hitting four microswitches on the underside. Would easily fit into a half inch height frame.
those pads suck for fighting games. too much travel for a thumb; it literally has the worst aspect of both a arcade stick and a fightpad.
there are levers that unscrew for travel, I never bought one since it's like 10 or 15 dollars more.
its not just about lever
whole thing is pretty thick and needs decent amount of space to fit its internal parts
even if you go mare minimum and make it 40mm that still pretty large amount comparatively to your 15mm slimbox pad
i'm surprised i haven't seen something that revolves around in a circle so you can either use stick or leverless on the same controller
How do I make my hitbox buttons quieter? Someone link me to some quiet buttons or foam qashers or something for this thing so I don't wake my wife and baby at night.
>wanting a quieter stick
get rid of the wife instead
just take the caps off and put pads or tape on the inside.
Do these even do anything or is it the FGC version of gamer audiophile equipment? I can understand going with a stick over controller as this is what fighting games were designed to be played with back in the arcades but it seems to me that your inherent skill is more important than your input method, if you're good you're gonna be good even with a PS3 controller if you suck you're gonna suck even with the most advanced expensive meme input device out there. And, guys, you can't consistently do a shoryuken with whatever you have? Even 8yo me could do that on a SNES pad.
I distinctly remember flipping the PS1 pad upside down and tapping down and forward instead of making a half-moon in SFA3 to trigger certain moves with the shotos
>why
No clue, I just know shit like messatsu goshoryu didn't come out if I tried to do it legit. If I tapped like this it worked 99% of the time.
>but why upside down
No clue, that's literally the only way it worked.
h-how did you physically mirror the controller
in theory, it has 2 advantages over stick
1 - you can input directions faster since it is a button press instead of moving the entire stick to the desired direction
2 - you can do "impossible" inputs, such as holding both up and down at the same time
in practice these are completely irrelevant for 99.9% of the playerbase and these controllers will be far more of a hindrance than a benefit
easier directionals and easier double taps since its just button press are objective advantages, there is nothing theoretical about it
but button dpad has its own "initial" hindrances like getting used to hcf and hcb inputs, or "ring finger" issue where some people can't play as well on p2 side
There is a a slight learning curve however I would say that for even an average player a few weeks of use and they'll be doing better than on a controller or stick, aside from much faster/impossible inputs there is very little to no chance of getting overzealous or panicked and putting yourself into a jump which a lot of new or casual players will do pretty frequently
For me its the Mad Catz TE
I like my Snackbox. Picked up a Lunchbox too but don't think it's as good as the Frame1.
I don't know, I like sticks and hitboxes but I don't like this one
what hitbox should i get? i've become obsessed with playing bridget in strive
>installed PS2 silicon membranes (they're not stiff like PS1/PSC stock membranes)
>overclocked USB polling
This is genuinely what I like to use for PC fightans. Kneel.
It's not, I never see it except for when you're dumbass makes the same thread about it
>hot
>can barely see the screen
>either lying on your stomach to play or hunched over like a sasquatch
idk if this was meant to look comfy but it looks the exact opposite
Because it's basically a keyboard that you can connect to PS4s/PS5s which are the standard platforms for tournaments. People use them because they kill off the travel time you get for your motions on stick while being more precise
Instead of practicing cheating, it makes cheating easier for you