Why is Tifa being given a bra considered censorship and made Ganker cry for a whole year but when Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game its okay?
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Why is Tifa being given a bra considered censorship and made Ganker cry for a whole year but when Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game its okay?
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>Ganker exaggerates false outrage as part of herd mentality
shocker
Play until the very end.
who cares
That's a fricking stupid question, and I'm one of the people who thinks Tifa wearing a sports bra is both a good idea and hotter.
Imagine if every time you beat this game, her boobs get a little bigger. I'd've platinumed the shit out of it
nintendogays are somehow "asexual" or gay
they get excited over characters like geno and wario but hate on the girl characters unless they're manly girls
anyone that likes a nintendo girl isn't actually a nintendo fan but an outsider who just sees hot chick in nintendo game
Is everyone lusting after trap Link also a non-Nintendo fan? This is starting to smell like no true Scotsman a bit
yes
sorry that you're either ~asexual~ or gay
or a trannie
Very true. Not only nintendogays but console cücks in general get easily offended over sexy girls, you only see them in multi-plats. All exclusives are pseudo-puritan shit
did you forget about splatoon?
>redditbob
Go back.
kys furgay
>9gag the Hedgehog
Frick off
>has Motorhead on the soundtrack https://youtu.be/R6WKOZGWh2g
It's alright in my book
Don't forget that it has Ween.
Absolutely kino soundtrack.
We get it, everything is reddit. Please shut up already.
>redditfrog
Go back
Samus does appear in zero suit though.
Either way, she's hotter in the power suit.
not him but i can't see a pic online of that do you have one?
It happens literally every single time you die.... Just look up a longplay. It's not fapworthy if that's your end goal-- just in case I'll preemptively call you a moron
I think the funniest thing about the arguments nu-Tifa caused online was seeing people tell others
>she needs the sports bra or her breasts would literally be flopping around all over the place, do you not understand the physics of how breasts work? It's just to prevent absurd jiggles
yes. That's how video games work. The video game sports bra prevents the video game breasts from video game bouncing all over the place. It's the only way.
Thinking of the scene in the original game where they exit the shinra building and her boobs are bouncing all over the place. Good shit
You literally posted a gif showing off her squishy breasts. The remake is going for something resembling realism, so yeah, they put her in a sports bra to be more realistic and you can see the difference when she is in the dresses.
Again anon "THERE IS NO WAY THAT HER BREASTS COULD NOT JIGGLE IN THIS VIDEO GAME UNLESS SHE WEARS THE SPORTS BRA. SIMPLY NO WAY, THE PROGRAMMING WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR IT ONLY THIS VIDEO GAME SPORTS BRA PREVENTS SUCH A THING FROM OCCURRING."
i wrote it in i am silly to emphasise the part i want you to read a couple of times carefully. Please think hard about it before replying.
>the devs are going for realism
You blame others for not reading then do the same shit
Yeah bro so real this is a real persons face not a cartoon at all.
This has to be the most autistic thread on Ganker right now. I really cant imagine what life choices gets someone angry and typing in all caps about not seeing a cartoon characters boobs bounce in a turn based rpg.
Same people yelling about height sliders in pso and calling it "censorship." Its just embarrassing to see, but you have no shame apparently.
You have missed my points entirely you low IQ moron, i am not complaining about not seeing breasts bounce in a video game, i am complaining about people pretending that there are "logical and sensical rules to follow" in a fricking fantasy video game when it's the topic of sexuality or sexualisation and nothing else. Im saying they should just be honest and say "lol good i hate sexualisation of female characters in video games" rather than make a song and dance online about how it "only makes sense" in a game where Cloud meets his nemesis in space after their epic boss battle where they were both jumping 30 foot into the air and cutting through buildings with their impossibly giant swords.
>the boobs need to bounce and jiggle and get me hard or you hate sexualization of women
Autism
>projection
again i never even said it needed to be in the game. You are really bad at this anon or are you just at the "merely pretending" part of your bait?
Hey look guys the outrage supervisor is here
how the frick did they not get sued by anri okita
I'm sure she's flattered.
made for big sin wiener
So fricking cute
>The remake is going for something resembling realism
Wizards massive 8 foot tall swords swung on the back of moving motorcycles magic crystal spheres
alien dna super soldiers time jannies machine gun arms lifeblood of the planet omnislash
knights of the round talking dogs giant mechs motorcycle wheelies on walls
Play the game. Or don't, it kinda sucked. My point is your post is dumb.
If we don't need an explanation for how Cloud gets his hair looking the way it does than we don't need an explanation for why Tifa's breasts don't move as they would realistically without a sports bra. "Muh realism" is pulled out to cherry pick and only to cherry pick. People should understand how stupid they sound deciding to apply realism to breasts when the rest of the game is fricking stupid because it's a fantasy that you're obviously not meant to apply even the smallest amount of realism to.
>The remake is going for something resembling realism
Why doesn't it strive to be good instead?
Just don't program them to jiggle.
Perhaps the bra is there to justify lack of jiggle that is the result of lazy development? Jiggle physics, especially realistic ones need a lot of work to make it function properly. You need jiggle bones and intricate weight maps, and appropriate simulation of mass drag that isn't exaggerated. It actually takes some extra processing power as well. If Square were lazy and didn't want to put much effort into jiggle, they could have used a very low setting of classic ancient tit physics which is basically just a vertex movement drag that produces a slight delay in specific vertex movement through world space coordinates. And to justify there being so little jiggle, they had to add a sports bra. Otherwise her tank top would look like it was made of plastic.
...Meanwhile, Capcom's RE engine characters have a robust jiggle system that apparently is so easy to implement into models that fan modders can easily make character mods that are thicker and with appropriately increased dynamic jiggle from movement. https://webmshare.com/play/Vr6ea
>Perhaps the bra is there to justify lack of jiggle
but you literally do not have to justify it that's the thing. What is this absolute cancer western obsession with not being convinced of a things "logical realism" only when there is some cherry picking to be done?
>well yes it MAKES SENSE for her to wear a sports bra to prevent the jiggle because if there was no sports bra but also no jiggle i would have to stop playing to think long and hard about how UNREALISTIC that would be.
>huh? Is jumping that high up in the air and shooting ice and fire out of their hands not also unrealistic? Why would i ever think about that? It's a Fantasy bro.
That's the Pete Hines argument. Just because something is fantasy of sci-fi doesn't mean that there should be absolutely no rules. Should Tifa's long-ass hair be pointing radially outwards like a porcupine? Afterall, it's fantasy. There's no reason for hair to strictly adhere to rules of gravity.
Ever see low-effort nude mods for games, that add gigantic breasts on characters? Remember how ridiculous they look when they're just two completely rigid orbs? Square devs might have just been too lazy to make proper jiggle, and a visually unrestrained chest would look equally ridiculous when it appears functionally restrained due to the technical limitation. I'm not saying it's good to be lazy. Capcom pulled off proper jiggle just fine. I'm just saying that if you're going to be lazy, it's okay to at least not make your laziness show up so apparently.
Again, though, her breasts move fairly realistically in the dresses. When she's not in a bra they behave like they aren't in a bra.
This mad dude's argument that they shouldn't have given her a bra because they could have just made her not jiggle ignores the fact that they actually did make her jiggle in scenes without the bra, so the bra actually does work realistically which was in the explanation they gave when explaining why it was added.
>This mad dude's argument that they shouldn't have given her a bra because they could have just made her not jiggle ignores the fact that they actually did make her jiggle in scenes without the bra
it's almost like Jap devs hate being told to stop sexualising their female characters and will find loopholes in the corporate mandate when they can
>hmm boss said the rules are no jiggle and that she must wear a sports bra under her tank top. They didn't say shit about the dresses though so im not breaking any rules also it happens half way through the game lol
Same thing happened with RE. Someone followed the rules with Jill and changed her outfit to be less sexy but still said "im making her breasts big and im making them bounce try and stop me"
>Someone followed the rules with Jill and changed her outfit to be less sexy
RE3 Remake is a bad example, because Jill's default outfit is obviously just a plain, boring default mode that was made purely to sell pre-orders that shipped with the classic outfits. It was a cynical marketing ploy.
Okay, well that makes it better. I haven't studied nuTifa that closely because I will never buy a console and the platform hasn't been emulated yet. So, the sports bra is a conscious decision and not result of limitation. And when considering the other outfits that have appropriate physics and unfiltered appearance, the sports bra of the default outfit was a conscious decision based on practicality of the character, and not "censorship by an ethics inquisition".
What the frick makes you look at FFR7 and think "they sure skimped out on the animations"?
I don't even like the game but "the devs were too lazy to make jiggle physics" is absurd.
It's also factually incorrect.
Dude she explodes out of her suit on death in Super Metroid, and appears out of her suit in every Metroid game.
Because one is faithful to the original character and the other isn't
Zero Suit exists since the first game on the NES, Prime babby
Yeah and Dread shows the zero suit when you die and if you beat the game fast on hard mode.
WILL SOMEONE NOT POST PROOF OF THIS ZERO SUIT I KEEP NOT FINDING ONLINE
That's not the Zero Suit, that's just a swimsuit. Zero Suit first appeared in Zero Mission and wasn't officially named that until Super Smash Bros. Brawl.
It absolutely does not.
She would look better with bigger breasts and small nipplebumps
>Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game
I hope the Metroid series die for real this time
>I hope Nintendo die for real this time
ftfy
>but when Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game its okay?
People have been b***hing about it since launch you blind moron
because Tifa is just breasts the character.
Samus is a vastly more interesting character and its unanimously agreed by fans that the Zero Suit was a mistake
I bet the Samus character is constantly worrying about how she is treated in online forums.
Btw Zero Suit exist before you were born
lol who cares if the name was created later, its still the same thing in the end, just skin-tight clothes to show her as a sexy girl. This has been a series staple long before you were born
That's literally not the same outfit, and I'm a year older than Metroid.
Speak for yourself, gayboy.
unanimously agreed by fans that the Zero Suit was a mistake
Says who? You?
>Samus is a vastly more interesting character
lmao Samus is a silent suit killing monsters and getting pwoer-ups, the only time they tried giving her any "personality" was in Other M, a game you love to shit on because of the Zero Suit.
This. Honestly if every Samusgay was rounded up and shot Ganker would improve 200%
>not sexualized
HA HA HA HA
She's right you know. ZSS is the real Samus
Samus is literally a blank slate you moron. She is a non-character and is nothing but fanservice.
younger anita was so frickable
Is that you Sargon?
Confirmed for not having played any metroid game.
Samus oozes personality from animations alone.
they literally made him a girl as a joke in the first game
lucky nintendo i guess
Imagine being this much of a delusional waifugay
>unanimously agreed by fans
All 6 of them?
>because Tifa is just breasts the character
t. tourist casual
She's FFIV's Rosa with a lick of paint, dipshit. Even people who played FFVII two decades ago could see it plain as day.
He’s a Samusgay, his IQ is on the single digit
Zero Suit was always stupid but Other M took it to new levels of moronic.
On the other hand her midriff outfits are great.
because tifa was literally famous for her character design and boobs, while zero suit samus was a gba bonus addition.
nintendo only shilled zero suit because they had very few female characters
pls sauce
Ganker will defend Nintendo to the end of time
Ganker here, frick Nintendo. We good? Someone screencap me.
I am the real Ganker
the real Ganker is the friends u mad along the way
Maybe the real Zero Suit was the friends we made along the way...
Samus wear armor só constantly that most people did not know up until ZSs being a character in Smash that she was a girl.
post more cute tifa pics
This is out of character, but it's still cute
I only have late 90's/Early 2000s fan art
You have seen a LOT of hairy Tifa pussy then sir.
You will never have this, remakegays.
I mean they did. During the dress up scenes.
Pathetic.
Blind?
>caring this much about a nintendo product
what the frick is wrong with you OP
Because they had a department dedicated to it. To reduce breasts and impose bras. Literally this is what censorship is. They were looking for ways to tame her design down to not offend the sensibilities of the sensible people that still complained she looked like a prostitute.
>of the sensible people that still complained she looked like a prostitute.
You know though, once the game was out i noticed that virtually no one was complaining about Tifa's design. No one i saw was crusading against this as still too much.
Her breasts dont look any smaller here than I remember them in FF7...
What DOES bother me is SEs insufferable need to over-design every fricking character these days. Make the skirt plain black leather again, lose the stockings and we have a good Tifa here.
One game is on Nintendo.
But she does. You see it when she dies.
Also in the ending illustration.
because zero suit wasn't in most metroid games outside of the death animation, if you even call that the zero suit.
because the original character only had a tank top
don't get me wrong, new tifa looks lovely but she's only supposed to have a tank top
also it aint about the bra but the black thing underneath, i assume she wears a bra below that thing
The black thing is itself a sports bra, dude.
sports bra are hot as frick though.
Exactly. Everyone sperging out over Tifa's bra has shit taste.
You see the zero suit when you die in Dread.
Maybe they finally learned from Capcom's exampe: Put fanservice deeper into the game than any sjw vidya journalist will ever play it. It's been proven on many occasions that sjws who complain about games almost never play games themselves, certainly not to the point of completion. Put fanservice in the latter half, or make it unlockable after beating the game once, and no sjw will ever even realize it exists. Sheva's Tribal outfit and Ada's slinky dress in RE5 and RE2Make are prime examples of Capcom sneaking fanservice in that have never even been mentioned by sjws.
If game journies have no problem with a game then I'm not buying it.
>why is censorship considered censorship
???
It's a sports bra, which in my book makes it 100% hotter cause I'm into that shit!
>people post VII remake boobs like they're impressive, not only are they smaller than the original they are more pathetic than other big boobs in the series.
>not only are they smaller than the original
lol
>concept art
How is this relevant?
>t-the official measurements d-don't count
once again, lol
They don't count... would you prefer the phrasing "they appear much smaller"
I see the truth has caused some asshurt.
>y-your EYES are lying! believe some random scribble!
Ok anon, you need to take your meds.
>believe some random scribble!
why yes, official material put out by square enix themselves.
I accept your angry concession.
>official material
You mean concept art.
>the evidence doesn't count because that would mean I lost an argument
time to take the L and walk away
>evidence
You are actually telling someone to ignore the in game models and CG models, throw out all the actual evidence and trust an unsourced scribble.
Jesus christ. What the frick is wrong with you.
>throw out all the actual evidence
>no you can't just use the measurements put out by square enix themselves, that would mean my totally unbaised opinions are wrong!
yikety yikes.
>unsourced scribble.
>can't even recognize nomura's artwork
shaking my head
>What the frick is wrong with you.
I'm sorry, but you need to let it go.
He's too far gone anon, he already forgot concept art is meant for the concept of the character before the finalized design
>that's right bro, we can continue our delusional circlejerk elsewhere
this is so cute
>Sports bra is less revealing than the tank over top
So what's the point of even wearing the tank top? I mean, women wear tops over regular bras because those are only meant to keep the breasts contained and are considered too revealing to be worn as outerwear. But this sports bra serves both those functions, so the tank top is redundant.
>So what's the point of even wearing the tank top
Nostalgia.
It's worse in every conceivable way.
But they need an excuse to hide the smaller breasts.
Concept art is not official.
>official measurements aren't official
and once again, lol
>do not match in game model
>do not match CG model
>some random scribble not even inked
>OFFICIAL
You have to be a shill.
Tifa is some soulless ching chong automaton and Samus isn't.
Don't 'ate her just don't like 'er
simple as
Samus is literally a blank slate silent protagonist you delusional autistic piece of shit
I think what he means is that Tifa is basic b***h waifubait while Samus isn't. The one time they tried to make Samus waifubait it backfired.
Samus is the ultimate basic b***h waifu pandering trash though
Samus shows up in the Zero Suit every time you die and her armor shatters. Having her crawl around in it for extended periods of time only happened in one game, it's hardly a series staple.
Ok, serious question.
How much milk would Tifa's boobs produce if she got pregnant?
Breats that have been surgically reduced produce less milk, so nu-Tifa would likely have difficulty.
Her breasts were surgically reduced? I thought it was just her chest bones.
Tit size doesn't significantly change milk production.
True but her breast reduction surgery likely caused scarring and will lead to lower production.
WHERE DID SHE GET BREAST REDUCTION SURGERY?!
Doesn't it though in a round about way? Bigger boobs = happier baby wanting to feed more = more milk?
>Squaresoft.com circa 1997
>Aeris
>Enix: Thath noth pothible!
Enix never had an online site until the 2003 Squeenix merge?
The Japanese manual of Final Fantasy 7
at launch.
I didn't buy FFXVIIRE because they censored Tifa. That's one sales less because of that decision. Make of this what you will.
Based and redipilled.
>Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game its okay?
She does though? Also Samus > Tifa
How big is mother brains monster form meant to be anyway? Like 30 foot?
25-30 feet, she's about four Samuses tall when fully upright.
That's still fricking huge. After all the Dread threads, I was looking into Samus' previous games and honestly while a lot of people hype up Kirby and all the others, Samus herself has been through hell and back and fought some OBSCENELY powerful foes.
Pretty impressive.
>Samus is considered big boobed by Remake's standards
What happened? When did Nintendo become raunchy and Square became prudish?
I wouldn't say SE is prudish yet, though judging by the IS THAT A MOTHAFRICKIN DRAGON game they may be on their way. Tifa is too much of a sacred cow in gaming to get the realism treatment. And as for Nintendo, for about the last decade give or take depending on how much influence Treehouse has had.
>Also Samus > Tifa
based
>tfw no sammy gf
>Why is Tifa being given a bra considered censorship and made Ganker cry for a whole year but when Samus doesn't appear in zero suit at all in the new game its okay?
Because Tifa has a "fanbase" of schizos
>Because Tifa has a "fanbase" of schizos
I'm sorry, the title for schizo fanbase still has to be Lara Croft in terms of female vidya protagonists.
You can have a schizo fanbase but not be "the schizo fanbase," just a candidate for it
I'd say Laragays have a reason to be bothered, at least the fans of the original Lara, as she was much more drastically changed than Tifa was.
>she was much more drastically changed than Tifa
Eh, they're it is nearly the same amount of changes tbh.
Not really. Tifa's changes were that her outfit was altered a bit, her breasts may be a bit smaller, her face was made more Japanese-looking and she's a bit whinier. That's pretty much it. By comparison NuLara has a more 'realistic' look with much smaller breasts, a much softer 'cute' look, more different outfits and is a drastically different character.
>Squeenix thought reducing Lara's breast size was a good idea
>The 2018 shit movie reboot has the smallest breasts
akko dicky
That we went from Angelina to that sticc is yet another heavy indication of how the times have changed.
But the worst part about it is that they were kinda right, since NuLara is more popular than OG Lara as zoomers don't like big breasts much.
It doesn't help that Alicia Vikander is a terrible actress. She's proven that in The Green Knight, Ex Machina, Seventh Son, that shitty Bourne film and the awful remake of The Man from UNCLE.
I would rather be interested in watching whatever magnum opus Friedberg and Seltzer cooks out than watch another Alicia Vikander stick figure again.
Lol
>Lara Croft
>but with a horse guy
kys
>Aya is now the 90s chick with big breasts
Actually is there a series Square HASN'T ruined?
the girl from Parasite In City?
>FF7R
>Only Part 1
>No turn based combat
>All the iconic VAs over the years for FF7 characters all got replaced by literal whos
>Tifa and Shiva got censored
>Graphics are bad
>PS exclusive
>Game comes out
>It wasn't a remake but a sequel
>Nomura adds Kingdom Hearts shit in the game
>All talk for game dies in a month
>PS5 version
>It makes the game look worse
>Yuffie only exclusive to PS5
>She came out uncensored after all the backlash about Tifa
In the end, this game sold less than FFX-2. I hope they eventually cancel this project.
It sold less than all FFXIII games and Ganker hasn't apologized yet.
You know that the "sales" meme doesnt work if the game is good right
and the game is good
>game is good
No, FF14 is good.
>sales don't matter for a corporation
lol
Technically they dont unless they are an indie corp. Money comes from many other stuff, not just sales this days.
Yet thay made 2 more FFXIII games despite pretty much the whole west shitting on them. Why? Because they all sold extremely well.
>Yet thay made 2 more FFXIII games despite pretty much the whole west shitting on them
They made two more games because they wanted to use the crystal engine more and try to cover FFXV not releasing and FFXIV 1.0 flop, anon.
>this game sold less than FFX-2
>1 year of sales vs 19 years of sales
no one in this thread has ever touched breasts before except for the fake troony ones installed behind their long flat male nipples
Frick I guess we're all virgins bros, it's over
I want to play FF7R2 but I don't want to purchase a PS5.
I don't know man I would like to have ZSS in the game.