Why Ps4 games look better than games on Ps5 ?

Why Ps4 games look better than games on Ps5 ?
I mean no game on Ps5 reached (not counting remasters) the level of DriveClub, Assasin Creed Unity or Uncharted 4 or Last of us 2.
There is nothing on PS5 that a Ps4pro couldnt handle
Prove me wrong

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    4k was a mistake

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This, but it's also a case of increasingly poor optimization. The thing is that the the shitty Jaguar CPUs of PS4 and Xbox One could almost be seen as a positive. It forced developers to optimize their games more. All of a sudden, current-gen machined don't have completely garbage specs and you can already see companies use these specs to rush out games more instead of making truly "next-gen" experiences. This is one of the primary reasons why I want the Steam Deck to become a household name. It may force some companies to actually optimize their games for lower end hardwares instead of putting out a rushed, shitty product. The reason you see some "devs" complaining about the Series S isn't because it's actually holding this generation back, it's because it requires any amount of skill to develop for.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It's actually simpler than that, most talented coder left those company and are working on indie titles with almost no budget, when the others are stuck on big AAA rushed project that never have time to push the boundaries of graphics anymore (like FIFA, COD, FORZA, Battlefield etc....) due to the constant 1/2 years release plan.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      this, 4k on normal sized monitors is just nuisance. you can't even notice and it just takes resources for devs, and for your machine

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    making good graphics is getting harder and harder now

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Its more than that ,the games look worse than Ps4
      Take NFS unbound vs DriveClub
      Forspoken vs Unity
      Like literally those game look worse than games from 8 years ago

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Hell compare Gotham Knights to Arkham Knight. It’s grim.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Many such cases !

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        what the fuck

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          KEK yeah

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Sony closed down Evolution instead of forcing Polyphony to co-operate with them on a sequel.
          Still fucking mad. Almost as retarded a decision as closing Japan studio.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I remember rumours of Kaz going apeshit when seeing how insane driveclub looks while he was working on gt6 for ps3. Also the fact they botched launch with server issues

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              It is, it was even "somewhat" leaked from exec talks in interviews "why do we have different racing game competing on a PS console ?" said one of higher up when talking about the fate of DC.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              One of the ex-leads of Evolution said that Driveclub was actually proposed as "Gran Turismo: Driveclub" and they pitched it to Sony who loved it, but Kaz Yamauchi vetoed it and didn't want GT to have anything to do with Driveclub. Evolution also wanted to share car models and data with Polyphony. Got the same cold shoulder. Evolution even had the support of Kaz Hirai (Who was trying to get a GT movie in the works) in wanting to spin off Gran Turismo into more games but in the end, Yamauchi won the Kazbowl. Driveclub had to stay it's own game.

              The online issues were self inflicted and it took a few updates for Driveclub to really get into gear, but what could have been had Sony told Yamauchi to stop being a bitch.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed, they also closed liverpool studio (Wipeout) all of this to make sure that GT have no racing game to compete from first party.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I really enjoyed Evolution’s games, but also think Sony was somewhat justified in closing them. The game was supposed to be a major tent pole at launch, it got delayed a full year, and the servers were totally fucked when it came out. Although it was a great game with great DLC I doubt it was super successful considering the issues. I really wish we got a sequel or at least a PS4 Pro patch though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you can compare those games to ps3 games and they still look worse
        modern game devs are just useless retards which is exactly what you get when you pay so little and hire 1000s

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        unbound looks better than driveclub

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Prove it

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            you should take my subjective opinion as fact

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    For my money, Horizon Forbidden West is the best looking game out there (too bad about all the other parts of it). That said, DriveClub is a 1080p/30fps game. PS5 could run it at 4K/60fps easily but Sony never patched the game, not even for PS4 Pro.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Can you imagine new games coming out on Ps2 that look worse than PsX titles ?
    But this is a reality we live in

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I can somewhat understand this
      It takes so much money, work and skill improving graphics that are already getting close to realism that companies just cant do it, especially when they have to make a game every 2 years.
      But i dont know why the graphics are getting worse in some cases

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Prove me wrong

    I won't and I can't.

    The PS5 runs the same hardware as the PS4, just repackaged and with a fancier controller. DYKG even did a piece on it. Likely recompiled the OS to make it different at a first glance, but that's about it.

    Game developers have gotten better at utilizing the hardware, so of course games look generally better over time. But there is nothing inherent to the PS5 that makes things run better than the PS4.

    And trust me, game developers are the last people that care about hardware, as long as they have the power they need. They knoe the ins and outs of the industry and they want to make good shit; that's literally it. If they can do that on a PS4 game (which will run on PS5 anyway) then there is literally no reason not to do it; Soby's artificial scarcity has caused a shortage of players anyway so the market is much bigger.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    NOTHING beat Driveclub

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Blurry, plastic Unreal Engine garbage. It's so weird that I can immediately tell when something is made with Unreal Engine or its asset store

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Poor bait, you can do better than that.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          not him but i legitimately don't think driveclub looks good in gameplay

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            that's because you're a contrarian retard
            almost 10 years later it still looks fantastic

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            What racing game looks better ?
            Gt7 ?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            For real ?

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            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              not him but i legitimately don't think driveclub looks good in gameplay

              not him
              find driveclub too blurry/smudgy and nothing pops

              something like hot pursuit 2010 is a lot more visually appealing

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >something like hot pursuit 2010 is a lot more visually appealing
                Really ? like Driveclub is so much better than that Hot Pursuit 2010 visually speaking.

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    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I made that webm at least 8 years ago, good to see that someone saved it

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/FcFHOqa.jpg

      Why Ps4 games look better than games on Ps5 ?
      I mean no game on Ps5 reached (not counting remasters) the level of DriveClub, Assasin Creed Unity or Uncharted 4 or Last of us 2.
      There is nothing on PS5 that a Ps4pro couldnt handle
      Prove me wrong

      For real ?

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      >Why Ps4 games look better than games on Ps5 ?
      because the grapes are sour since they're out of your reach

      >something like hot pursuit 2010 is a lot more visually appealing
      Really ? like Driveclub is so much better than that Hot Pursuit 2010 visually speaking.

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      KEK yeah

      I am a game developer so I explain:

      only Driving games look this good because it is easy to render something like this so well because the player barely interacts with most of the environment.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        AND you are fairly sure which parts of the environment will be in vision at any moment during a lap, so you can swap a lot of assets in and out of memory during a run.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        AND you are fairly sure which parts of the environment will be in vision at any moment during a lap, so you can swap a lot of assets in and out of memory during a run.

        Im a game developer, and the answer is not because of this (not fully).
        First, racing game have actually a lot more going on the physic part than other games, they also move at a faster pace, which mean more constrain on the streaming part (which take a lot of resource) and finally, they are quite heavier in term of lightning/material due to most cars requiring reflections and precise shading.

        The real reason why racing game can usually have better graphics is because they need less moving parts (animation take a lot of resources), they usually need less textures per area (though, this trend to be less the case) and have less update to do on the overall world (which again, is less and less the case with open world racing game).

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Too bad DC was complete dogshit
    I miss MotorStorm so much, Dirt 5 and Horizon 4/5 don't fill the void

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Developers and the industry focusing on muh framerate and muh 60+fps instead of accepting 30fps is fine and focusing on graphics.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Why Ps4 games look better than games on Ps5 ?
    because the grapes are sour since they're out of your reach

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A Ps4 could handle that no problem .
      I mean compare this to Uncharted 4 or TLOU 2 .
      Still looks pretty tho

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >a PS4 can rasterize millions of fur vectors with raytraced GI at 4K native
        maybe for one third of a second before it whirrs into the sky in a trail of flame

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          But its only for 4k meme and muh complexity , shit dont looks next gen it just dont look that impresive compared to PS4 games

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Games have been moving more and more and more towards programmatic graphics over artisanal graphics. In other words, the artist has less and less control over things, such as lighting, now the engine handles lighting, while maybe the artist hand tweaks the lighting in cutscenes only. The end result is often "souless" and lacking the influence of an artist's eye to exaggerate various things to communicate messages and feelings. Another way to put it is games are becoming more simulation and less art.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly and this is something that the execs of those big company like it, since they can take the cheapest labor possible without having to keep paying those great skilled dev and artist.

      Driveclub does have a very skilled art team, as shown from the work they did in the audio, graphic and gameplay department, hell, even the marketing surrounding the game was excellent.

      Huh, I still have my original game on disc. How does it perform on the PS5?

      Exactly the same, unfortunately.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >DUDE LOOK AT THIS SICK MOTION BLUR!
    You never played it. You only saw youtube material.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Fucking KEK, I'm not the OP, but I do have the game, even better than that, I actually modded this game.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Huh, I still have my original game on disc. How does it perform on the PS5?

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The extra power of the new consoles is just going into bruteforcing unoptimized garbage and memetracing. Combine that with the abhorrent art direction (or lack thereof) and the result is obvious.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Criticize everything else about it, but when cyberpunk worked, it looked phenomenal

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Still nothing that a PS4 couldnt deal with

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        For me the ps5 version looks much sharper. Also demon’s souls on ps5 is one of the best looking games i’ve ever seen

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Sharper..
          We waited 7 years just so the image looks "sharper"

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I mean that’s kinda what earlier 6th gen games were to 5th gen games

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Not even close
              Compare Drive Club to GT5 or Dark Souls to Bloodborne

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    You can afford to put all your resources into graphics when your simulation model can run on a toaster and has the complexity of a NES title.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Demons Souls, Ratchet look pretty wild. Its still more crossgen shit. Im sure naughty dogs factions will set benchmark again for ps5 as they did for ps4 with part 2

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      is this Ikishima?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Demon's Souls remake looks better than those. Not that you'd know since you guys only have YouTube.

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Matrix Awakens had insane graphics though.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    droiveclub looks and plays so fucking great, they even added bikes

    can't believe they closed evolution, i mean they obviously had some problems but then they started to deliver HARD

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Prove me wrong

  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    demon's souls remake is still the best-looking game i've played since the PS5 released

    2021 and 2022 were cucked because of supply issues incentivizing developers to release games on PS4/XB1, hopefully that's going to end this year

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Well optimized first parties at the end of life look better than unoptimized third party and intergenerational games at the start of the generation
    Wew who could've seen
    Last year ps3 games looked better than most first year ps4 games.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Actually not true

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    to be honest driveclub was running at 30 fps which is horrible for a racing game, but still no other game has ever surpassed this besides assetto corsa mods on PC

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