Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now

There’s no way to boycott Tim Sweeney and Epic games these days when every AAA dev wants to use Unreal Engine. And rip, innovation

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you EGS shills not get that the EGS sucks and people dont have a problem with the engine itself(unless it's a really shitty and lazily made)?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Using the engine just opens the door for a ue monopoly down the line. I have plenty of issue with the engine itself because it's tied to the worst gaming company out there.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's better :
        >Every company has a proprietary engine closed source so indie devs must create one too
        >There are multiple partially open sourced engines free to use, paid to comercialize so anyone can use them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The first one.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            troll

            >There are multiple completely open source engines with permissive licenses
            This one

            b8

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There are multiple completely open source engines with permissive licenses
          This one

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are more FOSS engines that had more games than Godot. Example: Irrlicht, Torque 2D, OGRE, Wintermute, Torque 3D.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I have plenty of issue with the engine itself because it's tied to the worst gaming company out there.
        That's not how you spell "Microsoft". And don't bother replying. You know it's true.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. I just wnat gayben to have a monopoly so i can show of my epic game library of games i never play on steamforum

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      people shit on UE all the time, mostly for how common it is for UE games to stutter on PC

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because making an inhouse engines are a fucking meme. Unless you have a hyperspecific use case, there's no reason not to use an off the shelf engine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      custom engines take forever and cost more, people have to find hacky solutions for it. In contrast, Unreal is documented and it is top tier.

      This. Games are too complex these days and making a custom engine will take a lot of time and money to develop and they may not even recoup the development cost of the engine when the games are released.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    custom engines take forever and cost more, people have to find hacky solutions for it. In contrast, Unreal is documented and it is top tier.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plus you have to train new people on your dedicated engine starting from UI.
      As opposed to when you use the engine everyone uses from Patreon Adult Game tech demos through indie studios to AAA, when you just tell the guy to do a thing, not need to explain how to do it.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    well ue has the most funding of any engine so something inhouse will never surpass it and you also get all the quixel stuff with it for free the only downside is its been build around blueprint noodels

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It takes years to develop and engine and even at completion it's still going to be a hit or miss. Capcom got a W for their RE Engine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And Konami got a W with Fox and did fucking nothing with it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They made that Metal Gear pachinko game tho.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mgs4
        Mgs Rising (canceled)
        Mgsv GZ
        Mgsv TPP
        Mg Survive

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now
    because he is paying them
    bribing is a better word though
    "PLEASE I WILL DO ANYTHING JUST DON'T RELEASE IT IN GABE-SAMA'S PLATFORM"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they are still releasing on steam though.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    here's a tip. don't buy or play AAA shit. problem solved

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    didn't unity recently eat some shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Merged" with an ad-provider company. Basically a non-issue for non-mobile devs and "almost" pure plus for mobile devs.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >non-issue
        Dumbass. It shows Unity's intentions and future path. Focus on mobile shit and ads.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a software company that develop certain protocols for windows iirc and is israeli do not take this as a bad thing since israel is an expert when it comes to cybersecurity

        >non-issue
        Dumbass. It shows Unity's intentions and future path. Focus on mobile shit and ads.

        ads arent really the problem here

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yea lets make our own shit engines that has multitude of performance issues and bugs
    even fucking botw could be better if it was on UE

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unreal engine has always been the bread and butter of epic games, it is the only thing they are good at these years
    The release of a new unreal engine version with features that are nothing to sneeze at, the consequent buyouts by epic of platforms like artstation for integration with the engine and the idiotic anti-dev strategy that unity, one of the biggest competitor in that field, has been pulling out mean you'll see a lot more of it

    Again, epic should have just stuck to making engine instead of clowning themselves trying to take on valve

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    Where the fuck have you been in the past 20 years?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Games need to constantly increase graphical fidelity and attention to details because normies won't buy the game if the protagonist doesn't have the option to take a massive shit in a public toilet with feces in 8K resolution.
    This means that modern game engines need to meet demands which are simply too complicated and too time consuming for your average dev studio to develop while working on everything else like models, textures, animations, world and level design, characters, writing, dialogue, quests, music etc.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because game dev is a job, so game devs are people with jobs. This means they aren't obese retards in their mother's basement who give a shit about your platform wars.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Game development is not a real job.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >video game board

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is quite surprising that every fighting game of this gen used unreal, the only exception I think is SF6 whomis gonna use REngine

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >UE5 is a game changer, no more poly counts!
    >Turns out it only works for rocks

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are lazy as fuck and normalfags will still buy it

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Easy:
    New recruits most likely dabbled or even mastered the engine less time learning some shit internal tools and more time developing
    Easier multiplat support oyu can target a phone if you want to
    A lot of material and freebies you can find online a lot of tutorials etc.
    Less time upgrading internal tools
    Less need for going under the hood won't need to fix some shitty hacks some intern made or seasoned developer introduced with the intention of fixing later but they never and then they discard the engine because ITS MUMH HACKKY BRO
    it's all pros and few cons

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    rev up those shader compilation stutters
    but seriously after seeing what happened to bioware with dragon age and anthem I can see why companies would rather just use unreal

    >have to use inhouse engine
    >the engine was not even made for the kind of game you're making
    >you have to retool the engine to work for your game
    >the guys who made the engine have shit documentation and they can't provide you support so you waste time trying to figure out how to do basic shit
    >every new hire has to be trained to use your engine which kills productivity
    >in the end your game turns out to be a buggy technical disaster that took longer than it needed to

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's all about marketing and advertising
    name some other game engines up for licensing that come to mind immediately that can handle a big and complex professional project outside of UE and Unity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >big and complex professional project
      >Unity
      You have no idea what you're talking about.
      List 1 AAA game made in Unity.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Uh oh, Genshinchads?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now
    Because Unity shat the bed about a month ago, there is no alternative to UE and Unity unless you want to make your own engine or are simply a hobbyist that isn't trying to make large scale games. Timmy probably uses Fortnite money to bribe devs in various ways aswell

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Unity shat the bed about a month ago
      QRD?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They decided that merging with a company known only for making malware was a good idea. Something about stuffing Unity so full of data collection trash that Both Google and Microsoft would stand back in horror.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is it with companies undergoing massive mergers atm? Something big is coming I think. Thanks for the rundown, does that make Godot the default for a free engine now then?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If you were willing to use Unity before learning of that, then you should have no reason not to not use Unreal now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >What is it with companies undergoing massive mergers atm? Something big is coming I think.
            Mergers are rare, and this happened because both companies make the majority of their money off of ads.
            In terms of acquisitions, these aren’t that rare either, and we’re borne out of companies like THQ going bankrupt years ago.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It is not malware though its just that some bad actors use it imagine linux and bsd are considered as malicious ware thats just dumb
          >In February 2011 the company released its first product InstallCore as an open-source SDK

          What is it with companies undergoing massive mergers atm? Something big is coming I think. Thanks for the rundown, does that make Godot the default for a free engine now then?

          Its a normal thing in the industry and businesses too
          A nothing burger essentially

          >What is it with companies undergoing massive mergers atm? Something big is coming I think.
          Mergers are rare, and this happened because both companies make the majority of their money off of ads.
          In terms of acquisitions, these aren’t that rare either, and we’re borne out of companies like THQ going bankrupt years ago.

          >ad company
          this is true however its open source

          If you were willing to use Unity before learning of that, then you should have no reason not to not use Unreal now.

          pill time

          >What is it with companies undergoing massive mergers atm? Something big is coming I think.
          Mergers are rare, and this happened because both companies make the majority of their money off of ads.
          In terms of acquisitions, these aren’t that rare either, and we’re borne out of companies like THQ going bankrupt years ago.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's widely available, rather well documented and easier to teach to new diversity hires who "already used the engine", i.e. slap together a few blueprints compared to literally every other in-house solution you might have. Just look at the mess that is Cyberpunk. The people who made the engine are long gone and nobody fucking knows how to work with that shit, hence the switch to UE for future projects.
    Oh and Timmy probably pays them to do it.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm going to stop playing games that aren't using their own engine. If you didn't write the engine, you didn't make the game.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >boycott
    Why boycott them?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >make shitty game
    >get paid upfront by timmy
    >game flops but you walk away with a couple milly
    why not?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How can so many drooling retards confuse egs exclusivity with unreal engine 5?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        go look at the revenue split if you use UE and put it on epic, nigrod.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Use UE
    >Put your game everywhere but EGS
    lol
    lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >want your game to sell
      >don't put it on the fortnite downloader
      makes sense.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They put it on the Windows Store though. If there's one place where a game will sell less copies than EGS, it's that. Maybe it's a day one Game Pass release though. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          of course it's a gamepass thing

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because its fucking good

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's cheaper and easier to have companies with rotating door hiring practices than to train your employees to use your in-house engine.
    That's it.
    The reason for UE in particular is because Unity is just worse overall.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now
    Because with increasingly complex graphics, it takes more and more time to build an engine that can do "modern" stuff and no one wants to put a few dozen people to work for a few years to reinvent the wheel. This isn't the 90s where you could shit out an rpg in assembly in a year with like 6 guys.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone should move to Gamebr- I mean Creation Engine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Baki looking Todd

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    engine has nothing to do with innovation in a game dummy. i think youre retarded, you can probably innovate more with a good ready made engine. you just keep buying junk games from western AAA

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    new tekken looks great. it's actually the first next gen looking game announced so far. no way ps4 could render those rain effects in real time.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    because it's a good engine and people have been using it for decades already
    >BUT I DON'T LIKE IT
    It doesn't matter what you, a NEET that doesn't buy games anyway, thinks.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    oh no no no gabesisters.... how do we stop the CHAD Tim..??

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >1%

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >boycott
    this has never worked, he is using capital to build capital, and gaining monopoly.
    there is only one solution

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Someone should resurrect RenderWare, the only engine with SOUL

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because video games have become industrialized, and as a result, creativity and fun are no longer a priority, but money is.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We went into Deus Ex hoping that licensing an engine would allow us to focus on content generation and gameplay. For the most part, that proved to be the case. The Unreal Tournament code we ended up going with provided a solid foundation upon which we were able to build relatively easily. Dropping in a conversation system, skill and augmentation systems, our inventory and other 2D interface screens, major AI changes, and so on could have been far more difficult. UnrealEd, the main tool our designers used to generate our maps, was superior to anything else available. UnrealScript was very powerful and allowed programmers to do lots of interesting things quickly and easily. The dollars and cents of the deal were right, and I didn't have to hire an army of programmers to create an engine, 80 percent of whose functions already existed in Unreal Tournament. We were able to make what I hope is a state-of-the-art RPG-action-adventure-sim with only three slightly overworked programmers, which allowed us to carry larger design and art staffs than usual.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Plenty of older games used Unreal, with specifically UE1 and UE3 being big. For example, Mirror’a Edge use UE3, despite being created by DICE, who have a highly capable internal engine (Frostbite).

      And Eidos Montreal is now moving Deus Ex back to Unreal with UE5. This is mostly due to their internal engine (Dawn) being a modified version of Glacier, IO Interactive’s (Hitman) engine, and they haven’t been a part of the same company since 2017.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    even pajeets can learn how to use unreal engine efficiently these days so that's why you will see more and more games will be using this pos engine

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    too lazy/incompetent/expensive to work with anything else

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't make your own vulkan engine you shouldnt be making a game. Simple as. I have years of openGL experience and making a VK engine is easy for me now. If you can't do this, you won't be able to innovate, period.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you can't make your own game without openGL or vulkan, then you shouldn't be making a game. If you can't do this, then you won't be able to innovate period.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Devs get forced to use DX after being bought by Microshit

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Doom Eternal is Vulkan only

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          id is a subsidary of zenimax which is a subsidary of xbox
          no way they'll use vulkan ever again even though they like it

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you're insane

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              unlike your ad hominem, his train of thought makes sense.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tim-chads we win again.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine how many unreal 5 experts there'll be in montreal alone

    CDPR obv had to go unreal after cp bugs.
    Maybe valve would make more than 1 game every 5 years if they adopted unreal instead of the perpetually in development source 2.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That meme game about cats is a good example, you can deliver a "pretty" game in short time at low cost thanks to the amount of time with all those prebuilt assets

      >CDPR obv had to go unreal after cp bugs.
      I thought the reason was former cdpr devs who created the engine left the company and now nobody there knows how to use it properly

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I thought the reason was former cdpr devs who created the engine left the company and now nobody there knows how to use it properly

        Are you listening to the same people who write redlettermedia fanfiction?

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Making engines has become pretty complex and expensive but Unreal Engine is there constantly being updated with the latest tech and you can customize it however you like, so why bother making your own?

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they want every game to be a bloated inefficient mess with samey lighting and movement

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >now
    you're probably one of those mentally ill autists still clinging to deus ex and co, too. go fuck yourself, sperg

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Innovative games have their own engines like Minecraft and Doom

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Unreal engine 3
    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now
    >Unreal engine 4
    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now
    >Unreal engine 5
    >Why the fuck are game devs moving to Unreal Engine now

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All the competent programmers have left the video industry to make 10x as much working on technical software for the Corpos, so vidya relies on licensing one of the few game engines being maintained. Epic Games doesn't make video games either they just maintain the Unreal Engine...Fortnite was some indie shit Tim bought out. No different to how Gaben bought out indie games like L4D and DOTA2 and Team Fortress. TIM'S GAME was Unreal and he stopped making those ages ago.

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