why were classic FPS so much better?

why were classic FPS so much better?

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >classic FPS
    >not a single classic in that 3x3

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The only one in that 3x3 I played to completion was RTCW

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        whoops

        https://i.imgur.com/n2ZXKlY.jpg

        why were classic FPS so much better?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      then learn what a classic fps means, dickhead

      https://i.imgur.com/n2ZXKlY.jpg

      why were classic FPS so much better?

      I think it's because engines of the past allowed for more satisfying movement and gunplay because they were simpler and got the basics just right (unreal 1, lithtech, ID tech 2)

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hint: notice it all went to shit around the same time E3 banned booth babes.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It went to shit in the PS2 generation, long before social justice infested video games.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh culture war!!!

      Shut the frick up. Games went to shit because everything else did. The moment corporations figured out the average person is an idiot that will happily lap up shit and even defend you for it, it was fricking over for society. Now corporations control most countries and the government bend its knee to them from laws to money.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Anita Defense Force the moment you point out a truth
        like clockwork

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >immediately screeches x boogeyman out of nowhere

          Poetry. Gonna scream about Black folk and trannies next homosexual?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >le "real thing is just a boogeyman" gaslight
            meds

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >everyone is a troony out to get you

              So you got upset at something and now have to resort to coping that the other person is actually a loser irl so you actually have the last laugh. Literal child mentality

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >criticize Anita's destructive influence on gaming
                >"TRANSPHOBE"
                You're not unhinged at all.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                No one said that but keep intentionally misinterpreting everything to sound better.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                not him but you're clearly a mentally ill troony since you brought up trannies in the first place. may I suggest you dilate

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Culture war
        Right wing puritan gays hate fanservice for dudes just as much as the sjw c**ts

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous
  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Classic FPS
    >No Doom
    You had one job

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      doom aged like dogmilk

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doom is among the least "aged" games of all time. You just run around and shoot shit with standard fps controls.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          except you can't look up or down and god forbid you wanted to jump, all the levels are just mazes, exact same mazes

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >all the levels are just mazes, exact same mazes
            Doom is not Wolfenstien 3D.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >except you can't look up or down
            Yes you can. Play modern sourceports and turn it on you loser. Tons of wads also have it on by default.
            >d god forbid you wanted to jump
            Same as above. Stop being a whiny fricking homosexual. Doom is the best.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't need those things

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            There's like 2 mazes in Knee Deep for the Dead lol. Do you consider anything that's not a straight line a maze? Lmao.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      doom is dogshit

      play real titles

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's a larper and he's going to samegay and reply to you 10 times to make it seem like he's not alone in his moronation.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Umihara Kawase but it's a 2.5D bsp portal boomer shooter nightmare

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        liking doom is a sign of npc behaivor

        tasteless and moronic

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          this but vanilla Doom
          also, hating TNT Evilution is the most NPC hivemind zombie behavior I have ever seen

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    i only know Half Life, Wolfstein and Perfect Dark, tell me about the other games that makes them so good

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you not know Blood?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Gunman
      Half-Life except you're a space cowboy hopping between planets fighting dinosaurs and rapey fungal monsters with weapons that have shittons of firing modes and a sarcastic AI dommy-mommy guiding you

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How the frick do you get Gunman to run properly? I got it off myabandonware, but whenever I try to start it the screen vanishes

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          No idea, haven't played it since I was on XP iirc. Have you tried 86box?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'll give it a shot. I'm on win10

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >garbage post
    >tranime pic
    every time

    • 10 months ago
      sage

      >not an argument
      >get another sage
      every time

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    no bullshit sidequests or filler, just straight up linear kino.

  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    PD blew goldeneye out of the water and I'm tires of pretending it didn't.

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    3 of these are mediocre, 6 of them are legitimately bad and not worth playing. what is with hipster homosexuals praising garbage? did some e-celeb tell you they were "hidden gems"?

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fluid omnidirectional movement and combat mechanics
    >focus on gameplay over story
    These two mainly.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Better level design (hand-drawn polygons instead of prefab isnets) and better enemy variety (easier to create a bunch of 500 poly enemies than 50000 poly enemies)

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ill just cover these real quick.

    >HL:OF
    >NOLF
    >SIN
    >RTCW
    these games evidently are based on HL or take inspiration from it. they also pull in its shit shooting mechanics, i.e. you're gonna shoot shitscan enemies that are barely reactive to being hit with boolets. so expect to take damage every fight in the most annoying manner possible. so its popamole shit before popamole became a thing. at least COD gave you regen health to bandaid this bullshit.

    if you also think walk and talk bullshit is annoying. wait till you play NOLF's boring ass sniper intro.

    >SOF
    actually super fun. unlike other shooters during this era, it actually made shooting FEEL GOOD AND REACTIVE. an art that seemed to be lost in PC shooters past HL.
    >Blood
    fun if you can ignore the hitscan enemies hitting you faster than you can even react. at least they react to being shot at, you can interrupt their attacks. hit detection is fricked, so play it with autoaim on.

    >gunman
    didnt play.

    >kingpin
    the only praise i think ive seen thrown at this game is that its 'hard'. much like devs mentioning theyll be focusing on casualization, you can expect a game to be shit when the difficulty is the only thing of note. horseshoe theory in action here.

    >perfect dark
    pretty good. filtered Ganker pretty hard despite goldeneye being seen as a popular classic. the devs took inspiration from rail shooters, focused on make da shootan feel good, and i think it holds up. the devs even had the IQ to design it around the rather clunky N64 controller. enemies have a set time before they shoot you, shooting them is fairly reactive (much like rail shooters at the time), it's basically a rail shooter where you can move, and that's pretty fricking cool as a result. if you played RE4 and understand the design behind the restrictive control scheme, you know if ya know right? funny how console shooters were more unique AND smartly designed in comparison to PC FPS before the whole modernization thing set in.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >these games evidently are based on HL
      Sin came before Half Life you fricking moron.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        oh it did. it's just so forgettable nobody is going to bother fact checking that besides some Ganker aspies.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          both sin and unreal came out before half life and did environmental story telling

          base half-life 1 is ass and I'm tired of pretending that it's not

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >both sin and unreal came out before half life and did environmental story telling
            okay so? Unreal's SP had zero impact and the engine and MP spinoff series outlived the actual mainline games. SIN is basically a meme game. im not saying HL is good

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            OpFor is ass and I'm tired of pretending it's not.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            nope, just proves that the genre was inevitably trending towards the HL route either way. HL1 is pure kino, aspies frick off.

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Halo destroyed the FPS genre before destroying itself a decade later.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      true

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      HL and Quake probably did more damage in the long term. HL threw in bullshit cinematic introductions that are only impressive on first playthroughs, and Quake took the aspie approach of only pushing tech without any regard to the game's direction. so you got a glut of boring ass HL inspired FPS, which barely garner any discussion on here or /vr/, and boring tech demo shooters of the mid 00s.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, extremely boooooring, can we now please talk about DOOM !? you know ? the best game eva that allows us to be so freakin cool heck yea

        eat your eyes

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          there's always that one sperg . . .

          i enjoyed crysis outside of the last shit 1/3 of it. probably because the devs were interested in pushing tech and having it incorporated into the gayplay. that webm is incredibly hyperbolic of the game's combat situations tho.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >that webm is incredibly hyperbolic of the game's combat situations tho.
            The pre-alien parts are what you want to do, it's only hyperbolic if you choose not to play rambo-style

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              > it's only hyperbolic if you choose not to play rambo-style
              the game boils down to teetering between going invisible and gunning people down. that homosexual in the webm scripted it to look cooler than it actually does.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >playing a game is scripting it

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                that homosexual probably knew those enemies spawned there, loaded up a checkpoint, damaged a vehicle to the point where it was going to explode, then proceeded to do all that shit. unscripted shit never looks that cool in the actual game.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I never replay games

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They didn't hold your hand as much. They also had much better level design with more fun set pieces.

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    for me, movement and pacing has alot to do with it.
    which is why indies are trying to replicate it.

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love boomer shooters

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Doom was great for its time, but I pretty much never go back and replay it. When I have an itch for a game from that era, I play Heretic, Hexen, or Strife.

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    this type of level design right here, you know what I mean? what happened to it?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats not level design, thats a set piece. are you moronic? also, looks like my actual criticism was deleted, super good job mods, guess ill just go back to insane shitposting

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thats not level design, thats a set piece
        whats the difference

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          you sound like a modern game designer

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            werent you b***hing at op for not giving a proper argument? i was genuinely asking

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              a set piece is an isolated chunk of a level completely independent of everything else. its quite popular in movie games.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        unironically have a nice day and be done with it

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          mad because btfo

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            your btfo your worthless takes outta tt
            stay hushed lmfao

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why am I so shit at the games I was good at as a kid?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      if youre shit at those games you might have a brain tumor

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the industry decided that every FPS is supposed to be multiplayer. If not then it's some boring open world shit like Far Cry.

    Having a standard FPS campaign is such a rarity these days and most don't even bother making one. Last time we had a proper FPS was with Doom Eternal and that was 3 years ago already. Everything else that came along was made by indies or new studios with hit or miss titles like Atomic Heart.

    I think that gamers these days have shit taste.

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blood is mediocre
    Op4 is alright but underwhelming
    nolf is terrible
    sof is mediocre
    sin is below average
    gunman is shit
    rtcw is mediocre
    perfect dark is dull (and runs like ass)
    kingpin is mediocre

    did you just look up pc shooters from before you were born or something

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Blood is mediocre
      filtered

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        6 keys
        *six* keys

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You're trying to out contrarian OP yet you only come off as bigger homosexual

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you like nolf I really don't care what you have to say
        but if you agree with me that nolf is terrible then I'd be interested in your thoughts otherwise don't bother replying if you like that god awful joke of a game only liked for its forced feminist shit and joke of a stealth system

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        hes right dumbass

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Op4 is alright but underwhelming
      OP4 is amazing
      >nolf is terrible
      not it is not, it's above average

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        nolf is so fricking bad its comedic how bad it is. Not a soul can defend its moronic run directly at the player and fire AI, the moronic "stealth" system that never worked, the dull weapons and the shit level design. Oh hey at least it has preachy feminist bullshit and a settings gimmick they lean into like two fricking times.

        It's awful. Get taste.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          im surprised at how bad monolith is with everything past Blood. Fear's enjoyable, but damn, they really dropped the ball on nearly everything they did afterward.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fear is alright if you really have no desire for level design variety or enemy variety. It bores me quickly and is a really ugly game to boot.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              not him but i tried FEAR again earlier since i dont know what to play and was filtered by shitty weapon grouping and the fact that you can't run
              I'm not even a zoomer
              also I always hated the edgy little girl with super powers trope

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I played fear on release with friends back when it was a big deal (thought it was a 7/10), played it last year and dropped 2 hours into it, it's ass tbh

                trepang 2 is coming out next month though and is kino

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                fear mostly appeals to slavs looking for a meat grinder game that lets them feel like the terminator, its weaknesses as a game are really obvious and when its scripting isn't tight the encounters feel utterly pathetic.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                I knew FEAR was a boring game when my no-reflexes dad managed to pop a few shots on the invincible 2x4 wielding dude before the cutscene

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            no they did not ?

            I liked condemned

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ganker is full of little kids who have no idea what they're talking about. Ganker will continue to ignore trepang2 release next month because they dont want good single player FPS, they want braindead build engine knock offs and halo, basically anything with a space muhreen. the post right above me is praising fricking doom eternal. you are all fake vapid homosexuals.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    System Shock is being released in a couple days

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh boy is that a heckin imsim with terrible gunplay

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it seems like Nightdive botched this one, the gunplay has almost no feedback and everything is so dark you can't see the enemies before they hitscan you
        I love the og game but after playing this demo my expectations are pretty low

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          > the gunplay has almost no feedback
          so its kinda like the og game. because you cant even fricking interrupt enemy attacks or really avoid shitscan without leaning around every fricking corner.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            in the og games you had clearly visible animations showing you hit them, sound and they would get stunned for a moment

            of course you have to give some credit here, the og game is very old and Nightdive should know how FPS works by now

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >in the og games you had clearly visible animations showing you hit them, sound
              it has that in the form of hitmarkers, sure, but im pretty sure you cant interrupt enemy attacks via stunstates as in Doom. either that, or they recover so fast you can barely notice.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                >im pretty sure you cant interrupt enemy attacks via stunstates as in Doom
                you can, it only lasts a few frames though

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    they were about fun gimmicks, creative weapons and just plain fun
    now you get the ultra realistic military shooters, future warfare and shit
    or you get the """"""retro""""""" shooters that try to shoehorn as many mechanics of doom eternal as possible while claiming to be ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''boomer''''''''''''''''''''''''''' shooters

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mainly made for PC, so they weren't watered down for consoles yet
    >made before the genre become oversaturated with as frick due to cod and it's contemporaries, so there was room for more fresh ideas
    >made by people with other hobbies and interests as opposed to just playing vidya and aping doom eternal, so see above

    Don't care for realism brown and bloom ADS military wankery with regenerating shields
    Don't care for troony pixelshit ADHD weapon swapping autism with buttplug support

    Love Doom, Half-Life, and Crysis

    Simple as

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Crysis
      nice trips
      never seen this game bundled with the other 2 before though
      I played 1 at release and I guess I liked it. What makes it so good? Are the others good too?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        crysis 2 is a serviceable linear shooter not at all like the first game
        warhead is like c1 but shorted and better paced (but with a horrible last level)
        crysis 3 is not worth your time

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >What makes it so good?

        Most of your weapons are fairly standard stuff, but you can modify all of them in a pretty simple, but nice way. (You can put silencers, laser sights, and scopes-even sniper scopes-on just about every gun) But the main draw is the suit. It has all sorts of powers like super speed, super strength, a cloak, and a shield, all of which can be swapped through at will. That said, you have a limited battery to work with, so be wary of that.
        It also has a HL2-tier physics engine and most wooden buildings are fully destructible. It also has drivable tanks and military vehicles, one set piece involves you driving a tank.
        Combine all of this with the fact that you get to necklift asiatics in a jungle with frickheug open levels and you get an extremely kino game. Be warned the last act is very mediocre despite being graphically impressive.

        >Are the others good too?
        Crysis 2 is more consolized than the first, but the gameplay is fine. Presentation-wise, it's extremely kino due to the presentation. The best way to describe it is to imagine something like the Michael Bay transformers movies in vidya form, and that's basically Crysis 2. Soundtrack is also good.

        Never played Crysis 3

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just finished episode 5 of Blood on Lightly Broiled for the first time
    It's funny how a week ago I was pulling my hair over the difficulty but now i'm mostly breezing the episodes on LB. Guess I should start Well done after, but man I tried earlier and it really is a fricking b***h

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    both the 5th and 7th gens had really good FPS. 6th gen didn't focus on them too much and 8th gen they became battle royales

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Unreal
      >Unreal Tournament
      >Half-Life
      >RTCW
      >Quake 3
      >Halo
      >Deus Ex
      >System Shock 2
      >Gunman
      >Red Faction
      >AVP 2
      >Tribes
      >Tribes 2
      >all the Tom Clancy games
      >didn't focus on them too much

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        SS2, Unreal Tournament, Half Life, Quake 3 came out in the 90s.. the 6th gen (outside of dreamcast) started in 2000 or 2001 and ended around 2005

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >and ended around 2005
          In that case, add Far Cry, Half-Life 2, UT2003/04, and plenty of others

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    kingpin and sof are ass though. especially kingpin

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blood stills holds out and nightdive game it a really good modern port.
    Opposing Force is a great prequel to Hunt Down The Freeman.
    I have yet to play that one.

    Soldier of Fortune...which was the game that was unironically developed in collaboration with the US Army and was kino? It wasn't AA, which was another title which was also kino.

    Sin is underrated but got mogged by HL, also breasts.
    Gunman...that one was bad and you know it.

    ROFLCOW...yup it is bretty good.
    PD, I liked it better than Golden Eye but I won't lie to you neither of them hold up. I think Agent difficulty on a free Sunday is the best way to enjoy it.

    Kingpin, dunno, never played it.

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sin- I remember playing the demo at a friends house and upon launching the game it took control of the mouse or something and did shit in the files
    Then his dad said it's not a virus its just some prank from the game
    was that a thing? it gave us a scare

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >webm autist
    >tier list autist
    Are their any others I should know about?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      kiwifarms autist

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Which one is that?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          the gossip girl homosexual who acts like anyone else cares about his paranoid delusions

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They just were fellow boomer. They just was.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. made for PC
    2. made for gamers, by gamers
    3. no "games as a service" bs
    4. usually had vast modding options and private servers

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Blood is solid, best of the old Build games.
    OpFor is a good expac, a tad overrated.
    NOLF actually sucks and is carried by its writing.
    SoF is okay, gets by on the gore and satisfying guns.
    Sin is mediocre and drags on.
    Gunman is a forgettable HalfLife mod.
    RTCW is super overrated, decent game.
    Perfect Dark is great (when played with M/KB and 60fps)
    Kingpin is mostly shit.

    t. Finished way more FPS games than you.

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