Why were these games just so plain awful??

>They added nothing, no new megas or anything

>ZERO moveset additions to any Pokémon

>Shit game that was just sword and shield with less mons

It seems like Sun and Moon was the last decent Pokémon game, it's shame cause I really miss Megas and I want Megas for other mons like Flygon and Electivire

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  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why were these games just so plain awful??
    they're sinnoh games

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      fair point, its just unfortunate cause they deliberated on releasing it, when they could've after Gen 7 since 4+4 is 8

      I have Zero hopes and I mean the Zeroest of hopes for Gen 10, I played Showdown and things like Quark Drive and Tera are ridiculous and a cancer to the Metagame

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    because d/p are dogshit games

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      The original games weren't "bad" they had decent Pokemon additions, bad would be something like Unova where the designs unbelievably got worse and things like the elemental pandas who were considered to be starters at first lmao

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literally 0 of BDSP's flaws come from DP

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be a senile Japanese yakuza gang member aka Nintendo ceo
    >we need more money
    >tell one of the millions of trannies you hired after 2006 to make the 17th $60+tip pokemon game of this year
    >troony, without missing a beat as they dilate their crusty oozing infected diseased red/purple/greenish yellow/black wound, goes to fiverr.com
    >Yeah can you copy and paste this code into ChatGPT and tell it to port it to unity and make some shit graphics and be done in about 1 hour from now? Thanks Habeeb.
    >goes back to posting troony cp on Twitter and changing the /r/pokemon banner to troony cp

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    The real "remake" was Legends.
    BDSP was just something they felt obligated to put out since people expected a remake of the original game.
    Thinking about it, I don't really think Sinnoh lent itself to being fully 3D. The only games that have a chance are Black and White since they have a massive space of nothing in the middle of the map they could turn into a Wild Area type thing.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The real "remake" was Legends
      Nah, BDSP is a better game than Legends. And it also outsold Legends lol

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        BDSP was shit, and it was also called shit.
        Legends was incredible and people view it as one of the best pokemon games ever made.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >BDSP was shit, and it was also called shit.
          BDSP is a very good game, and REAL Pokemon fans know this.
          >Legends was incredible and people view it as one of the best pokemon games ever made.
          HAHAHAHAHA

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Both are ass. BDSP is a shit pokemon game, and Legends is whatever ass backwards collection challenge it was trying to be

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based, bitter fricks are seething. PLA was the best pokemon since gen 3

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP aren't awful games OP. You just have shit taste.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They were lol, they didn't even add any moveset changes, they just copy pasted the story of D&P onto SWSH game template

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >they didn't even add any moveset changes
        Are you moronic?

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they are fine - the modern Platinum without HM shit and untainted by SWSHs dynamax

    You just got filtered brah

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't get it twisted, I fricking hated Dynamax lol, I hate Tera more, maybe from a sensible standpoint, they probably are adding gimmicks every game and then in Gen 10 we probably get all 3, Megas/Dyna/Tera

      >they didn't even add any moveset changes
      Are you moronic?

      Are you moronic and primeape brained?? BDSP HAD NO MOVESET additions for any pokemon, it was literally SWSH with less pokemon

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >BDSP HAD NO MOVESET additions for any pokemon, it was literally SWSH
        ... which means it added a ton compared to DP (the game they are remaking)

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No its not because it is still a next gen game, them adding a moveset change would be like adding something like Fire Fang on Gyarados since it knows flame thrower and fire blast or giving Ice Punch to fricking Kyurem, things people and I have been waiting for since Gen 7

          The game devs are genuinely awful and the language barrier adds on to it, they do this all in private and behind a smokescreen, we never can communicate with them on anything

          >It seems like Sun and Moon was the last decent Pokémon game
          No, B2W2 were.

          Unova was cringe and had the most Digimon-esque pokemon designs lets be honest, but Sun and Moon was just normal and Z-Moves don't hold a candle to the malignant cancer that is Dynamax

          >Pic related are redditors when you critique their shitty game

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            At least Unova still had normal shiny odds, field moves and a way to import your mons from previous games that wasn't paywalled

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    BDSP did the 3 most important things:
    -it avoided SWSHs shit engine with PS2 trees and fps drops
    -it avoided dynamax
    -it kept the Sinnoh character designs, didnt ruin them
    Sometimes less is more.

    Add to that - new faster engine and improved underground distribution, much better teams and QoL things - and you got yourself a solid remake

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would have agreed with you if we had actual normal 3D to see Sinnoh in 3D
      But here it's mostly reused DS assets
      In that sense even ORAS is better

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        ORAS is better by a landslide, it really doesn't hold a candle to how bad BDSP was, it was a hallmark as to how a remake should be cause they added moveset changes and more megas, BDSP missed the opportunity for a story plot with Team Galactic and something like Primal Dialga being the Villain controlled by team plasma

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ORAS is better by a landslide, it really doesn't hold a candle to how bad BDSP was
          It's literally the other way around. BDSP is miles better than ORAS.

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nice bait lol

            not taking it though

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Nice bait lol
              It's not bait, it's a fact. BDSP is much better than ORAS.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                ORAS shitstomps BDSP because there's literally nothing in BDSP, nothing, nothing is different or anything, gamefreak is full of Troons and half assed this game for a few extra quid

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >BDSP has the best gym rematches
                >ORAS doesn't have any gym rematches
                >BDSP improves DP's Battle Tower into one of the best BTs ever, it even has rematches with Galactic members
                >ORAS copy and pastes the Maison, there's some shitty new multi battle partners I guess
                >BDSP has some trainer customization
                >ORAS has none at all
                >BDSP puts Pokemon in the Underground to help DP's flawed distribution
                >ORAS adds a slower version of Fly
                >/vp/ will insist ORAS is the better game

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ORAS shitstomps BDSP because there's literally nothing in BDSP, nothing, nothing is different or anything
                Aaah, now I get it. You just didn't play BDSP lol. Pathetic.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                As a BDSP defender, BDSP didn't change much. The Underground is a lot better but that's about it. ORAS was fine but comparing ORAS to BDSP is comparing a remake to a remaster. It's not the same thing.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                BDSP is a remake tho

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                a bad one lol

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can think BDSP is good or bad, but you can't call it a remaster because it's clearly a remake.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                A remake is completely remaking the game. BDSP is just D/P but in 3D and using modern types/type match up. If it was just D/P it would be a port. GF/TPC can call it a remake, it's not, they didn't do enough.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The Underground is completely new
                >Contests are completely new
                >Ramanas Park is completely new
                >The Battle Tower is completely new
                >Stickers (Seals) are completely new
                >There's trainer Customization now
                >Pokemon following you

                Yeah... This is a remake. Not a remaster. Not a port.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Exactly. Well explained.

      Also, don't forget a very improved Battle Tower.

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >It seems like Sun and Moon was the last decent Pokémon game
    No, B2W2 were.

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because Gay Freak decided to remake D/P instead of the only good gen 4 game Platinum

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      DP are good
      BDSP aren't

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesn't matter, Platinum shits on them both

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          True but that doesn't make DP bad
          Just like how Emerald existing doesn't make RS bad and Crystal existing doesn't make GS bad

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        True but that doesn't make DP bad
        Just like how Emerald existing doesn't make RS bad and Crystal existing doesn't make GS bad

        No, what makes DP bad are mostly the fact that they're bad games. Pokémon games have unnecessarily slow battles that are even slower in DP with a slow, ugly overworld and needless obstacles like deep mud and fog.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          DP isn't slow that's a moronic twitter meme, and the overworld isn't ugly (except in BDSP)

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            DP is objectively slow, you moron. DP was so slow that it completely killed my interest in playing Pokémon until HGSS. The fact that most of the designs are awful really didn't help. The overworld isn't that bad, I guess, but the locations are really barebones and brown or look ridiculously stupid. Meanwhile, the player has a head the size of their torso and a hat that's just as big. They're one of the worst experiences I've ever had with the mainline games, second only to the cutscenes in SM that convinced me never to play single player again

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              Tell me what exactly is slow about DP. And no, "everything" isn't an answer. Nobody has every mathematically backed up the claim that the game is slow. As far as i'm concerned most of it outside of surfing and the HP bars is faster than gen 3. Wild mon appearing animations being the most obvious example.
              >the locations are really barebones and brown or look ridiculously stupid
              What the frick are you even talking about?

              >DP are good
              >BDSP aren't
              Delusional take

              Cope

              diaper? dogshit worst games in the series

              bdspiss? diaper dogshit with faster hp bars

              shatinum? middling mediocre slop thats a bandaid over the gaping taint wound that is daiper

              plass? overrated medicore tech demo catching tutorial

              shitnoh? a MISTAKE

              Go back

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you mentally disabled? The HP bars and surfing are a huge time sink, as are the EXP bar and Gen 4 travel in general. The Gen 4 engine is slow as frick relative to other gens.
                >what are you even talking about
                The areas are gray and brown for like 50% of the game. The central part of the region is a gray cave system and the safari zone has mud to make it extra as brown The colors are dull and terrible. Areas that aren't like this are either water or grass. The windworks and floaroma are the only areas on the map that aren't painfully plain to look at. Any area full of Galaxy Grunts also looks stupid as frick because it's full of dorks with teal hair who are dressed like they're backup dancers in a music video about sodomy.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The HP bars
                take this reddit gold kind sir
                >surfing
                surfing takes less than 1/25 of the game unlike hoenn

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                You can meme about reddit all you like. The reality is you pointed it out because you know it's a problem. They are slow as frick and relevant in every single battle.
                >surfing
                The difference is that surfing in Hoenn is faster than walking, maybe even as fast as running. Small stints of surfing in DP take longer than surfing from Mossdeep all the way to the bottom right of the map in RSE. I don't even fricking like RSE, but at least there aren't a handful of elements introduced just to make the game slower like slow surfing, mud, and deep snow.
                The reasons people mention these two things alongside the lack of Fire-types is because the games came out over 15 years ago. Everyone knows what the issues are. All you have to do is play DP right after a game in any Gen except Gen 4 to feel the difference. Even then, Platinum feels better than DP by a noticeably degree. HGSS feels better than either because the locations are better, the music is better, and the UI is arguably the best of any Gen. I know you want to be a contrarian, but DP are not worth playing

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I know you want to be a contrarian
                okay schizo

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                So you're not trying to be contrarian, you're just wrong and/or unintelligent. Glad we could clear that up

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                sure buddy, whatever makes you feel better at night

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The exp bar and travel are the same as in the other games
                >The areas are gray and brown for like 50% of the game
                Not more than in any other region, i geniunely have no idea what you mean.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >DP are good
        >BDSP aren't
        Delusional take

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >no new megas
    >I really miss Megas
    >I want Megas
    It's really embarrassing to share a board with you XY kiddies. Shouldn't you be playing Fortnite or eating tide pods or something?

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why were these games just so plain awful??
    Why is OP's taste so fricking awful??

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they at least ran well enough and didn't lag and bug out, was there a game breaking oversight, yea, but other than that was a literal remake with underground slightly expanded.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    DP are good
    BDSP are good
    Pt good
    PLA good

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      diaper? dogshit worst games in the series

      bdspiss? diaper dogshit with faster hp bars

      shatinum? middling mediocre slop thats a bandaid over the gaping taint wound that is daiper

      plass? overrated medicore tech demo catching tutorial

      shitnoh? a MISTAKE

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked it. I think If I say they're awful would be to admit the originals were also awful. I never used the Factory in the originals so if I don't hate the originals, I have no reason to hate the re-releases, just means I don't need to use my 3DS anymore and I'm cool with that. I can get the hate if it's a "principal of the matter" though.

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gen 4 was never "slow" outside of niche encounters where you happen to fight a Blissey. Not sure why reddit keeps parroting this

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Demonstrably untrue, surfing in DP is absolutely agonizing for seemingly no reason as that was changed in Platinum (one of the few speed related changes to that game specifically).

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's slow all the fricking time. I don't understand how you can be in denial about this. Play Gen 4 right after playing any of the main line games that released before the 3DS. Both the HP and Exp bar feel drawn out when they move. It's one thing if you see it happen and think "oh, that's about 70%" as fast. Then you realize it's like this for every single encounter and those seconds are adding up to some amount no one has ever quantified. DP are objectively the slowest of the Gen 4 games, and therefore the most painful to play.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Demonstrably untrue, surfing in DP is absolutely agonizing for seemingly no reason as that was changed in Platinum (one of the few speed related changes to that game specifically).

        Wrong

        You can tell whoa actually played the games when they type wrong shit like this

  16. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    the whole discord squad has landed

  17. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Slowness is based on personal tastes and tolerances. Arguing about "slowness" is fricking moronic.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Personally I can't tell the difference

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      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        >left
        sovl
        >right
        souless

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        God you're so dumb.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, I was pretending to be the person I replied to when I said that I couldn't tell the difference. My IQ is at least room temp so I can tell that the original games are slower.

  18. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    nah gen 7 are worse

  19. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its when the changed pokemon contests into musical and just got rid of the contests afterwards the contests were so fun to me so yeah they suck ass for that

  20. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >t seems like Sun and Moon was the last decent Pokémon game
    ohnononononono

  21. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    they look ugly. I PREFER THE ORIGINAL VERSIONS.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do they look ugly? They literally look like the originals but in 3D.

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        no they turned them into funco pops

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          They look super cute

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