Why would Riot Games dump billions of dollars on a failing genre? wow and ffxiv players wont quit their game anyways.

Why would Riot Games dump billions of dollars on a failing genre? wow and ffxiv players wont quit their game anyways.

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It might not be some generic WoW clone, who knows? I don't have much faith on it but at least save some judgement for when we see actual footage

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      With all ghostcrawler has said it looks like they want to make a wow clone with TERA combat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I would play that. TERA was unironically a good game at its core, it was just ran by absolute retards and garden gnomes.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >with TERA combat
        God I fucking hope not. Tab target will always be the best

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I would play that. TERA was unironically a good game at its core, it was just ran by absolute retards and garden gnomes.

          the duality of man

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Tab target is absolute jankshit western trash

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            You can't get good depth out of Action combat- Not being able to target allies in an MMORPG is fucking LMAO to say the least.

            At the very least going forward (until some new shit is invented) it should be hybrid

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              That's a good thing. Fuck the trinity and healers in particular. Nobody actually enjoys playing whack a mole with 20 retards who keep running away from you every chance they get.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              you can get plenty of depth. You can still target allies with stuff like a Mouse-Over cast, like you can macro in 14. There's no real reason that the game has to stay tab-target when you can open up reactive gameplay and creative combo/skill useage by making it more action-based. Ground targetting, mouse-over, priority hitting are all options to explore.
              And, even in action-based combat, there's nothing that says you can't have a Focus Target, that makes your aimed abilities automatically target what you've locked onto, allowing you to focus on positioning, and using mouse-over and other abilities to support the party

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              BDO came pretty close to nailing MMO action combat. The control scheme and the animations are too good for me to think otherwise. It's semi-hybrid since you can target allies with heals in that game. However issues like desync and ping really stick out way more than they do for tab target. The issue can never be solved but some dev could easily take that style of action combat and make it more stable.

              The most successful MMO in the world uses tab target lmao

              The two most successful MMOs aren't scammy games with tons of cash shop stuff and made up issues to sell cash shop items, they're not played for their combat and they're way more accessible for people who don't care about combat.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You think Riot won't want their MMO to be as accessible as possible?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                No it really didn't. BDO is both, unplayable outside the countries server and is a fucking mess in PvP, whilst also having basically zero depth because everyone just does their "combo" and that's it. There's no reactions to anything in the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >However issues like desync and ping really stick out way more than they do for tab target. The issue can never be solved but some dev could easily take that style of action combat and make it more stable
                That's the problem with Korean MMO's that get released in the west, they are designed to be played on low ping in a tiny country so they don't experience the desync and ping issues at all.
                Even in games like FFXIV it's the same, when someone told Yoshi-P about the ping issues the west have with classes like machinist he was dumbfounded and had no idea what they were talking about, because they only design the game around the JP playerbase and care about them.

                And BDO has the single most depth in combat of any game, it's pretty much like a fighting game in how you need to do your combos and react.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The most successful MMO in the world uses tab target lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              And fortnite is one of the most popular games in the world still, your point?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              The two*

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lost Ark is the future and pinnicle of MMO design and gameplay

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Playing supports in Lost Ark is awful, so very much doubt this

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dont play korean mmos because they are a huge time and money sink, but damn the game looks fun in combat

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                it depends entirely on what class you choose. I went Bard, thinking of being a support since i had a full group of people all trying to play. I legitimately had to have 3 different skillsets, because going support meant I did no damage at all, while going full damage still didn't kill shit as fast as someone playing a real damage dealer.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >pick artillerist
                >leveling is a slog because all my good damage skills either plant me for a second, are delayed aoes or both

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                i feel your pain, man. I gave up playing Bard right after I unlocked the boat and realized there was even more grinding I had to do, and went to one of the martial artists. the sheer amount of damage and mobility i had was fucking isnane, man

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The IP is so big that even if the game turns out to be complete dogshit it will still be a financial success.

        He just said the team feels MMO combat feels a little outdated that doesnt mean it couldnt be tab target.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >action combat
        So it's instantly shit? Good to know

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Valorant is the only game I've ever played where I regularly run into female gamers. League is ranked two on that list. A decent MMO that attracts 15-20% of playerbase as females would change the world. And girls now all put on cute voices not the femogre bullshit that was rampant in WoW

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Valorant is the only game I've ever played where I regularly run into female gamers
      really? how the hell did Riot manage to get that to happen in an FPS? FPS is supposed to be one of the more gendered genres. Is it just Riot converting League players to valorant players?
      Also were they females or "females"?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        they managed to make a less skilled counter strike where half the map is covered in random dogshit abilities at all times and that caters to the shitty female audience

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          cs players will never stop seething, will they?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            He is correct, it is literally a cs clone with kiddy graphics and hero abilities.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              So that's why it's better than that eurojank shooter then.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              he's not correct though, he said it's less skilled. if you have to know what everyone's abilities are and how to strategize around that then it's a hell of a lot more than "stand here and stare at the corner of this brick and throw a smoke where the telephone pole wires meet"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This. I don't care for memorizing every hero's abilities, but it adds a layer of complexity to the game.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It might or might not, there are abilities you can use as crutches and abilities that require thinking to be good.
                Like KJ's entire kit is just a huge crutch for people to not have to take risks while defending, while Yoru needs you to play mind games.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A decent MMO that attracts 15-20% of playerbase as females would change the world.
      For the worse.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This was the whole reason I tried Valorant but I just can't stand the shooting gameplay. And League doesn't have a forced voice so it's hard to talk to girls there unless you force yourself upon them by adding them after.
      Overwatch was a decent game to harass women in but yeah in general MMO's tend to have a lot of women.
      I play ESO and that shows your account name and character name at the same time so it's easy to spot women because dudes will pick a girly character name but then have a normal account name.
      Despite knowing all this I am extremely lonely I hope OW2 is good so I can continue to annoy women online

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because riot actually wants to create. Unlike your shit company who doesnt even make games anymore lol.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Watch it somehow have worse combat than GW2(the best combat in a current MMORPG) despite being released more than a decade later

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      ffxiv has crappy combat and look how people are eating it up.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        just because you can't perform a 25-button combo doesn't mean the combat is bad

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Pushing buttons feels way better in WoW

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            How? I tried WoW and the button work felt alien to me. I wouldn't call it bad it's just different to what I'm used to.
            FFXIV to me is better because I'm familiar with it.
            I will still play the WoW expansion because my friend wants me to play it with him

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >California
    >Tencent
    No thanks.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Riot has boatloads of cash, robust network infrastructure, and a lot of brand recognition. For them to take a stab at an MMO is a considerably smaller risk than it would be for most other companies, and the payoff is potentially huge. They don't even necessarily need to eat into the user base of other MMOs if they can convert some of their own existing users.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fabled anti-wow, are you ready?

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only thing Riot is building is a babysitting club for coomers.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    FFXIV got it player base from somewhere and if you tell me it's because FF already had a massive fanbase so does League

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      only anime-esque mmorpg that is actually good and not some skin-box gacha shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A ton of the new league of legends skins are anime inspired so the Riot MMO will certainly fill that fantasy too.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How much are VaIvedrones going to seethe after this game becomes a big success?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    idk they made a better, woman friendly csgo reviving the genre. so anything could happen

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Well seeing how the internet reacted to the cyberpunk anime if they release it alongside arcane season 2 it would be massive

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to be worth trying at least, it's a brand new MMO with a world that is rich with established lore, something that NW suffered from since a lot of people didn't give a fuck about anything related to the lore. Haven't kept up with lol that much since like season 3 but I imagine league fans who also like MMOs will still play it because it's league but not a moba and they're heavily invested in the lore even if at an entry level or an appreciation for the style of fantasy.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the best part is that shit is still like 5 years away so MMOs are going to be an even more out of fashion dead dated piece of shit genre than they are right now

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5 years
      I give it a decade.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    if they manage to capture even a small percentage of their league-playing audience they would make a killing
    plus there's a high chance that they tone down the graphics for the third world toaster money and we get some SOUL instead of splurging the whole budget on shaders

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If the MMO allows for fanservice and sexy outfits while having a good character creator it can for sure become popular.
    If they go with the censorship and prude direction it will probably not last long.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is a joke in the league community how many skins all the hot characters get while the less hot and less popular characters don't get any.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this is how min waist slider + max poopa slider will look like

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on the classes. I got into ff14 solely for GNB and I got 500 hours of fun from that

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre stretching themselves way too thin, runeterra is already on life support

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      LoR was destined to be on life support because of how consumer friendly it is. Card players think they want stable metas that shift slowly, player interaction, cards being awarded left and right, and power creep, but they honestly just want to be fucked in the ass constantly and that's what they enjoy.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's exactly what players want LoR is just boring to play

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Runeterra imo might be my favorite card game of all time, it just needs love from the boss

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Runeterra imo might be my favorite card game of all time, it just needs love from the boss
            i feel like Bandai has a massive chance to just steal the online TCG market with Digimon, when it finally goes live. The way the game plays, and all the options they can go with for presentation, would make for an absolutely insane online client. They just have to not fuck it up

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bandai fucks up literally every time.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know. My god do I know.
                Doesn't mean I'm not gonna stop huffing this hopium that we get a clean client, and the digimon have their 3D models and signature attacks when you have them attack. I want to see my Guilmon go through a special animation when I trigger his Warp effect into Gallantmon, with another when I go into Crimson Mode to blow out a motherfucker.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >wow and ffxiv players wont quit their game anyways.
    They don't have to quit, but many of them will if Riot's MMO will "feel" like WoW or FFXIV, which is exactly what they are gonna try and replicate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I know I'll take a look at it, and if it seems good, probably make it my secondary MMO, just so i can get ahead of all the market shenanigans. It's basically too late to get into the markets in 14, unless you spend an entire expansion preparing for the start of the next.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because its free money from chinks

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Would Riot make a subscription based MMORPG? Seems liked want to make a game that fits China's market, which would be F2P, so something more like Genshin Impact?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      f2p with skins, so expect raid gear to look fucking ugly and you will have to spend houndreds on FOMO stores for descent transmogs

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea, I mean, an MMO of that ilk is going to be very different than what WoW or XIV gives you. I'm not saying it'll be bad, but I'm not sure that's what MMOfags on Ganker would want.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just want Classic WoW but in Runeterra.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          as a fashion fag it will surely hurt my wallet instead of my time and sanity.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    league/valorant artstyle doesn't make good coomer designs so gonna be a pass from me

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why are overwatch characters so popular for porn compared to league of legends? League of legends is way more popular and has way more characters to choose from.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why are overwatch characters so popular for porn compared to league of legends?
        Because it was blizzard that was doing the porn and pushing it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          people will still be making overwatch porn in 10 and 20 years from now. No one will be playing overwatch.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        because overwatch model is more detailed and exportable. league has very low poly models and look extremely different from splash/concept art

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    riot is a pioneer of F2P so they won't fuck up by trying to squeeze people for subs and then have to change the business structure later. it will be designed for F2P from the ground up so monetization will be intuitive and smooth, and the zero cost of entry/maintenance will attract and keep the critical mass of players that an MMO needs.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >make yordle playable
    >every Asuran, goblin, and potato flock to the new mmo
    >nonstop ERP on starter city as far as I can see
    I can see it now.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      only if I'm allowed to make a yordle like those 3 and not just walking animals like in LoR

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Yordle
      >Vastayan (Cat, Bird, Fish, Wolf, Lizard options)
      >Human (Noxian, Demacian, Piltover+Zaun options)
      >Synthetic (artificial beings like Orianna and Blitzcrank)
      They've got a decent variety for races, as long as they don't make the subspecies purely visual.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Lizard
        Neeko is the last of her tribe and she is not into men.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      god I remember my first experience with ERP was some femlala sitting on a Hrothgar lap. Just knowing it was two grown ass men ERPing about a bara furry cat grooming a girl that doesnt look older than 8 made me want to quit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >femlala sitting on a Hrothgar lap

        h-hot

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You literally only need to make a good mmorpg for people to drop we have rn. If they actually make a good one they'll win by default because FFXIV only won because all the other ones are just pure complete SHIT (and i play FFXIV).
    Tho i don't think they'll make a good one since for some reason everyone that makes an mmorpg just copy the shit from what is already done and play it safe. So no hopes at all.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty sure a vast amount of the wow and XIV playerbase will be willing to try this game if it's free to play or at least has a long trial.
    It's not a saturated market by any means, in fact there's a lack of good new MMOs since both WoW and XIV have flaws and dont fully satisfy either fanbase.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >All these unique vastayah tribes
    >Hmm I will pick human male, also pick the class that uses a sword.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    RETARDS DUMP MONEY INTO BAD GAMES
    THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION
    SAGE

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Blizzard chud now works on the Riot MMO
    It's over.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      well it's doing a good job then cus riot makes good games

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Watch Arcane
    >Show is kickass I want more
    >Maybe LoL can give me a bit of feeling like I'm in the world of Runeterra
    >Load up LoL, pick a character
    >Its just some dashes and shitty animation
    >Maybe it's just because it's an old character
    >Buy a newer one
    >Its just some dashes and shitty animation
    >Decide to just stick it out for 2 weeks
    >League is quite literally nothing to do with the world of Runeterra

    The actual fuck? It's not even close? I should have played Ruined King but didnt know it existed...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >this is the kind of person who think's that their opinions matter

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I commend you for never setting foot in any thread discussing Arcane. If you did, you would have been bombarded with "DO NOT ACTUALLY PLAY LEAGUE" 24/7

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >mmo
    You mean wow-like

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, you don't get it:
    THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES!
    Think of how many shortstack yordles we'll make!
    Or ninja girls!
    Or Punky Emo girls!
    Or girls in armor!
    THINK OF THE CUMPOSSIBILITIES, ANON!

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    MMOs are extremely lucrative in the long-run, but extremely expensive in the short-term.
    It takes a lot to get them up and running.
    To host enough players in enough servers in the right regions.
    MMO players are most susceptible to sunk cost fallacy, too.
    Once enough people are suckered into blowing hundreds into an MMO they will shill it for free and attack criticism like it's a gun aimed at their own family.

    MMOs are shit, but they work the way these big companies want them to.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If it works out its profit will be pretty profitable if executed properly and with there large install base its guaranteed to turn a profit for a while so even if its not as successful as they hope it will still be a net gain in profit unless they shit the bed

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    jokes on you I already quit. patiently waiting for riot to save the genre

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I tried LoR. next thing I knew I spent 80 hours and a whole week playing it at home.
    I eventually got to over 400 hours(estimated) and quit it to play singleplayer games.

    the point is they know how to make FUN and ADDICTIVE AS FUCKING CRACK games.
    If they get a couple hundred thousands to play it via streamers it's over and this will be the new king.

    I haven't been into mmos in 15 years so I'm kinda excited.

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to be a mix between Vrising and Albion Online. Without the full loot PvP of course. Horizontal progression. Optional PvP. No random drops. You grind for currency that's used to unlock exactly what you want. No character levels. You can respec anytime to fill every role.

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