Why wouldn't a shotgun axe work in real life? I feel like its the best home defense weapon.

Why wouldn't a shotgun axe work in real life? I feel like its the best home defense weapon. You see it in vidya games, but I don't see people attaching axes to their shotguns. They go together like peanut butter and jelly.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Americans explain why this is retarded!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The more parts something has the more likely it is to break when put under constant stress. Melee weapons are put through a lot of stress.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta, and noguns, but doesn’t a lever action have very few moving parts?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i think it has more moving parts than a semi auto (some more educated anon can correct me if i'm wrong)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the gun in the op isn't a lever action, its a break action. lever action rifles actually do have a lot of moving parts

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >doesn’t a lever action have very few moving parts?
          no? have you seen the innards of one? there's a reason we didn't see them in WW2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        okay, okay d-don't shoot!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          das rite

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because you have a gun, closing in to melee range when you have a gun is beyond retarded
      >but bayonets exist
      Yeah for stabbing a enemy when you have fuck all else
      Also stabbing and cleaving are two different things, trying to cleave a person with this not only is ineffective but you're also damaging the gun

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Any significant blow would potentially bend or warp the barrel of the shotgun, causing shots to go well out of alignment (at best) or completely deflect in the barrel can blasting part of it off (at worse). Imagine taking a rifle, hammering the barrel until it's misshapen and partially crushed, then trying to fire it at something. You're lucky if it doesn't explode when you do.

      Relying on a hollow pipe for the handle of an axe is not a good idea, either. Axes are generally used for their impact strength, so a handle with less durability is less desirable. It's also more difficult to hold something with a shotgun handle like you would an axe or hammer.

      As an aside, axes are frequently much smaller than depicted in media due to not needing much force to be highly effective. So the axe in the image is already needlessly large, not to mention too bulky on a gun barrel.

      There's a reason why bayonets are the only weapon you see on guns. It's because a spear just need to be pointy and long, and not break when shoved into something. A rifle can handle all those things well, and shoving a rifle barrel into something generally isn't going to deform it in any way.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Big axes are also pretty dumb because they're way heavier and distribute the force across a wider area. All of the big axes you see are for chopping down massive trees and shit. In real like combat axes were, as you said, quite small because you want to concentrate the force onto as small an area as possible, and it also can't be super heavy because you're swinging it all day. It is sort of like when people act like swords are super heavy, when in real life an actual battle ready sword is not more than 3-4 pounds. Even massive, two handed swords are like 6-8 pounds maybe.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Big axes are also pretty dumb because they're way heavier and distribute the force across a wider area.
          They aren't. They just aren't suitable for normal combat. Big axes were used against heavy armored enemies and wide area was meant to do bend bigger part of armor. Plus, additional weight on the heads meant additional force.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't know of any fighting force that used "big" axes. Even Danes, who were known for actually fielding professional soldiers that used axes, still had axes that were smaller than any axe you see being held by some barbarian in a fantasy game.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Even Danes, who were known for actually fielding professional soldiers that used axes, still had axes that were smaller than any axe you see being held by some barbarian in a fantasy game.
              I didn't think about vidya weapons because they should be unrealistic. I specifically thought about two-handed Hungarian axes - Google says they are similar to Danish ones.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Big axes are also pretty dumb because they're way heavier and distribute the force across a wider area. All of the big axes you see are for chopping down massive trees and shit. In real like combat axes were, as you said, quite small because you want to concentrate the force onto as small an area as possible, and it also can't be super heavy because you're swinging it all day. It is sort of like when people act like swords are super heavy, when in real life an actual battle ready sword is not more than 3-4 pounds. Even massive, two handed swords are like 6-8 pounds maybe.

        Americans explain why this is retarded!

        not to mention that an axe head tied to a shotgun would have shitty balance compared to a normal axe or hatchet and would be more difficult and unwieldy to swing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A bayonet would work just fine and not nearly as heavy. You'd cut yourself before you'd cut anyone else with that axe.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too heavy

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    weight maybe? you could just hit them with the handle, besides that axe attachment just looks unwieldy

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A hollow barrel is a shitty, weak handle that will bend and dent.

    A handle that is swung around, bent and dented by hitting things is a terrible barrel.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In that particular case you'd break your fingers if you actually swing it at something.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'd damage you shotgun. Stabbing with a rifle is okay for the most part cos the direction of the force is in line with the barrel/where the recoil is directed anyway.
    Bonking a mothefucker with an axe on your gun will put the force back across the barrel perpendicular to where it is strongest. It would also put stress on the break or the other mechanisms.
    That said, I love the Romero with an axe from hunt. Aesthetic as fuck!

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i always figured Axes suck for melee combat. Too easy to get stuck and you have to put your whole body into the swing so you're badly exposed.
    As opposed to a bayonet where you can stab and slash approaching attackers while still havjng your weapon raised.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bayonet basically turns a rifle into a shortspear. And spears were the meta for a significant chunk of human history for a reason

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Combat axes were traditionally only used by people who had access to subpar iron ore.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Too easy to get stuck
      That's kind of the point, you stick your axe into their shield and the shield becomes too unwieldy to be useful, effectively disarming them of its protection

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A bayonet is better than axe
    It has better reach and you can stab then shoot for more style points

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I mean, nothing is stopping you from just putting a blade on break action like this. Assuming the action is built up enough to withstand the force of being slammed in the opposite direction.
    In reality you wouldn't use this because it is far inferior to a pump action and most types of firearms.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it is way harder to use and much less effective than a bayonet? I don't understand what you're even saying. A bayonet is just as deadly, has longer reach, and you're not fucking up your gun by swinging it like a caveman. You're just stabbing and slashing at someone.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How do you pump bro

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bro it's clearly break action.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Guns are typically used in high stress situations and the last thing you want to do is go to reload your shotgun quickly and remove some of your fingers

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why wouldn't a shotgun axe work in real life?
    1. Bad handle. Axe uses wedge and lever principles but shotgun axe on pic you've posted is far from ideal. Grip is very close to the axe head which means it would take much more force to use it efficiently.
    2. On the other hand shotgun part gets downgraded as well due to additional mass - which impedes accuracy. Plus it will make using two hands tricker.
    3. Finally - shotguns aren't made to withstand continous impacts and hitting someone with wedge would quickly damage it (I'm actually surprised you didn't think about it). After few hits with axe you'd be left with shitty axe instead of your precious shotgun axe.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It would work sort of.
    Long term, you'd wear out the mechanics that allows the barrel to hinge, and you'd end up with a gun that wouldn't lock properly. But, before that, you'd probably bend the barrel to the extent it wouldn't shoot straight.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Liberal education everyone.
    1. If you ever had an axe in your hands you would know how retarded this concept is.
    2. If you ever had an shotgun in your hands you would know how retarded this concept is.

    Like seriously, buy a farm and work there for few seasons, you'll learn how to distinguish reality from fantasy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >buy a farm
      Sure let me just borrow a few million dollars

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No one said it has to be big farm. Hell, in this case smaller is better - instead of buying specialized equipment you'll be able to do things manually.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a weapon to surpass metal gear

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah its dumb but Klingons being mall ninjas makes perfect sense

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >klingon with a mosin

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kino.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    imagine stabbing yourself with that retarded grip from the recoil

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Firearm barrels should be straight. While certain kinds of metal can flex, a firearm barrel should absolutely NOT flex under stress. They are more likely to bend and stay in a weird position than morph out of shape and warp back to how it was, because when you're holding a stick that is designed to contain an explosion, you don't want it ballooning out like a condom in the wind. For shotguns precision is less of an issue but you'll still end up looking like Elmer Fudd with the barrel pointing back at you if you keep slamming the barrel against things (with or without the axe bit). Bayonets don't have this problem because it'd be harder to dramatically warp the barrel with a thrust than a full on chop.

    All that said, Romero Hatchet my beloved

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poles did use gun axes at some point, and they were fairly effective for cavalries apparently

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair most non-Poles would not have the strength or dexterity to wield this weapon. Poles are OP.

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