Will Sonic ever reach this level of supreme kino ever again?

Will Sonic ever reach this level of supreme kino ever again?

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >CHAO MAIN
    >Lead Chao Programmer
    >YOSHINISA HASHIMOTO
    what the frick is dis dialogue, amirite guys???? XDDDD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chao mein is some good food don't hate.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >literally was planning on shooting earth with the eclipse canon
    >suddenly remorseful when his grandpa wanted to wipe out humans
    I didnt understand why eggman suddenly changed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's because he wouldn't be the one who did it. If he's not the one who wipes out humanity, he wouldn't have won, his grandfather would have and he can't accept a victory by technicality.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman probably operated on the principle that Earth would capitulate. He wasn't planning to genocide the frick out of humanity, just held it at gunpoint. Then Gerald showed up, had his hissy fit, and Eggman ended up deciding it wasn't worth going ahead.
      >source: sonic battle

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron he was only threatening to do it so they would comply with any of his demands. You don't argue with a guy that has all 7 Emeralds and a gun powered by them pointed at your planet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He was literally about to fire it at earth before Gerald’s virus took over the ark

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It would have mildly inconvenienced people at most, as seen in Unleashed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You don't argue with a guy that has all 7 Emeralds and a gun powered by them pointed at your planet.
        You do if a man is only threatening to do it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Thing is, he could potentially blast single cities or countries if he wanted so it may not have been an idle threat.
          >alternate universe SA2 where Eggman already has the Emeralds and a fully charged cannon and has to be stopped in a day before the Earth rotates to the position where he can fire a shot at an angle to destroy the country that didn't comply with demands without damaging the rest of the planet

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine an alternate reality where Eggman underestimated the eclipse cannon's power, and blows up the world when he was actually planning to blow up a country.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And releases Dark Gaia by accident, which does nothing except make some people sad or angry unless a camera light flashes on them.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman admired his grandfather and looked up to him as a great scientist. When he saw how insane and crazy he looked wanting to wipe out all life on Earth, he had a moment of reflection on his own actions. I think he realized that he had gone too far and could end up like his grandfather if he continued on his path.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think this angle works, I remember thinking this at that scene as well.
        It'd be like if a criminal learned his beloved do gooder family member had done even more heinous shit then he had, it would probably bother them irl

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        turning Robotnik babyface was a disaster for Sonic

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >reflection
        That's exactly what happened anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He didn't suddenly change, he never wanted to nuke the planet to begin with.
      Just make its inhabitants accept him building eggmanland and living there in it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think he was remorseful at all. The scene is just him venting to Tails about his feelings regarding his grandfather trying to eradicate all of humanity, including him. He looked up to his grandfather, held a respect and love for him that he would never give anyone or anything else, only to find out that Gerald had no love for him or anyone as he became consumed by his desire for revenge for Maria's death. Imagine learning that someone in your family that you loved dearly never cared about you, it's a lot to take in.

      tl;dr He's just processing what happened. He goes right back to his antics in Heroes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >He goes right back to his antics in Heroes
        Isn't Heroes the work of Metal Sonic? Not that it matters much, they didn't even bring the story people on board until the levels had already been finished

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, Eggman was locked in a vault all game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't fault people for not knowing, Heroes was the first bad Sonic game and the requirements for the true ending are insane.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman basically did everything he did in all the games in order to live up to the image he built up of his grandfather. He realizes he was wrong after being confronted by the reality of his grandfather being a omnicidal lunatic and decides to change. Sonic Adventure 2 was supposed to be the series finale.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that really makes zero sense on a lot of levels

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman never planned to actually go through with blowing up the Earth. He doesn't want to just stay on the ARK forever.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman just wants to make a big ass themepark all about himself, blowing up the Earth doesn't help.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That only became a thing in Unleashed, before that he wanted to take over the world like every cartoon villain

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok, how is he supposed to take over the world if he blows it up.
          Dumbass.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He can go to or grab new ones like in Colors.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eggman's wanted to make Eggmanland since Sonic Adventure

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sonic 1

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon, don't question it. SA2 is the goat because it just is okay?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SA2 has the best writing of any game everthoughbeit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't Eggman just want to take over the world? Can't rule a world if there's no world to rule in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He wanted to rule the world. Can't do that if there's no world.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn't that just prove it was a bluff? If nothing else, I'm sure Eggman doesn't want to rule over the smoldering ashes of a dead planet.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you willing to call it, tho?
        i'm also sure Eggman is spiteful enough to blow it up if he can't have it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He can probably turn down the intensity of the beam. Maybe he'd just pull an Independence Day.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            iirc there's a scene in Shadow the Hedgehog that's basically independence day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you willing to call it, tho?
        i'm also sure Eggman is spiteful enough to blow it up if he can't have it.

        He can probably turn down the intensity of the beam. Maybe he'd just pull an Independence Day.

        iirc there's a scene in Shadow the Hedgehog that's basically independence day

        He literally blows up the planet in Unleashed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?si=GUbboNrWzgLmLC8y
      He never wanted to destroy the planet only Shadow and Gerald wanted that

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Eggman basically did everything he did in all the games in order to live up to the image he built up of his grandfather. He realizes he was wrong after being confronted by the reality of his grandfather being a omnicidal lunatic and decides to change. Sonic Adventure 2 was supposed to be the series finale.

      https://i.imgur.com/v8hzN7D.jpeg

      Will Sonic ever reach this level of supreme kino ever again?

      ITT no one in this thread understands that Gerald only went insane after Maria was killed

      Gerald WAS a good guy. The Eclipse Cannon was being built to destroy Black Doom in secret. As usual, the glowies pushed a good man over the edge and he retrofitted it and aimed it at earth instead.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >As usual, the glowies pushed a good man over the edge
        Never happens in real life

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I try to pretend nothing after SA2 happens in terms of SA2's story, with how much they jerked around the writer of the Adventure games they can hardly be considered the same story

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Either way, even in SA2 they make a point to show Gerald WAS A good man before all the shit with Maria happened. If you just take SA2 as its own thing, the intention is that Ark got retrofitted into a cannon in secret after they killed her and basically took him as a prisoner and forced him to keep working on it alone.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly think they should make a 3D reimagining of S3&K if they had someone with a cool gameplay idea. No dialogs of course.

    At least the story wouldnt be dogshit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Are you me? The only post ITT that actually gets Sonic.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sometime last year.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why dide they create this cool design just to use it for only one cutscene

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >why dide they create this cool design just to use it for only one cutscene
        because they wanted to return to soul

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Sonic and the Soulless Slop
          >"soul"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I played Secret Rings fully for the first time a year or two ago and while the entire game was dogshit Darkspine Sonic's edginess voice and the way that he absolutely fricking despises Erazor were amazing. Was almost worth playing the game for.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and while the entire game was dogshit
            Git gud. Secret Rings is underrated, you just have to learn the motion controls.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Git gud
              I finished the game, what more can I do? And it was dogshit.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Black knight done it better black hedgehog!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Love how if you revisit it now, you can see the Werehog voice is just a re-used Darkspine.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >and while the entire game was dogshit
            Git gud. Secret Rings is underrated, you just have to learn the motion controls.

            I 100% Black Knight (everything was great except for the gameplay) but I couldn't get through even a few levels of Secret Rings. I should probably go back and do that just so I can say that I did and have a better understanding of the series

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            I 100% Black Knight (everything was great except for the gameplay) but I couldn't get through even a few levels of Secret Rings. I should probably go back and do that just so I can say that I did and have a better understanding of the series

            I wish the Storybook games had continued and kept its quality of writing, mediocre to bad gameplay aside it’s where Sonic’s character has shined the most for me. I don’t trust SEGA to do a new one though, not today.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Just imagine storybook but with Ian's writing
              >Brutus (Knuckles) appears in Caesar's (Blaze's) throne room
              >Sonic: Hey it's Knuckles the Echidna from Sonic the Hedgehog 3! *turns to the camera with a smug expression* ...and Knuckles.
              >later on when they're about to assassinate Caesar one of them pulls a knife
              >Sonic: Hey that's a knife...it's like a short version of the Excalibur sword I wielded in Sonic and the Black Knight!
              By the way I picked Blaze for Caesar because she canonically looks like a boy so it's the most thematically fitting for the part where Caesar puts on a dress and starts dancing. Technically Silver is a better fit for the role though because I want to see him get killed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pontac and Graff aren't much better. They really need to just uproot the entirety of Sonic Team and bring in some autists who have been making Sonic romhacks for the past decade

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I know his character even though I know nothing about him
                >I don't know how to look at a wikipedia page to see when each game was released
                I used to be mad but nowadays I can't fault them at all. Sega is pure trash and either didn't pay them enough to make them care, didn't make it their job to know about what they were localizing, or both, I guarantee it. Attacking Pontaff over it is like being mad at trannies instead of seeing them as victims of israelites used as the tools that they are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It bothers me to no end that in games like Free Riders and Forces and TSR instead of using a handful of drawings and just moving them around a little like Rings or Knight which is cheap but at least slightly artful they just use the bog standard bargain bin vn style of cutscenes. Like it wasn't much but damn it was more than nothing. At least with Frontiers they sort of use something similar the very few times they try to do proper cutscenes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >sonic to the final boss:
                >credits roll

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. It's over. I don't know why people bother buying sonic games anymore knowing they'll never be this good again.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I HAVE COME TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one replied to you because that shit was never funny.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    not with Sega

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People don't ACTUALLY hate SA2, right? They're just doing it to "fit" in with that one homosexual YouTuber that hated it? How could you hate kino like this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And this

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yep, everything comes full circle. Fricking. Kino.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No one here hates sa2. Every post saying otherwise is a troll shitposter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Best not to think about it too deeply
      Least delusional lore headcanoner
      >that one homosexual YouTuber that hated it
      I'm sorry but what? The SA2 crybaby rhetoric for years was that every eceleb on the platform had conspired against the game, now you're revising history to say it was only one? Frick off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that pic
      So fricking kino. SA2 only gets more based and kino in my mind as time passes. Makes me sad Sonic Team will never make something like that again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Fricking hell I really need to play SA2 again.

      Just let me catch my breath.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get the Steam version and get the Dreamcast restoration mod for the ultimate experience

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Dreamcast restoration mod
          is that really necessary?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not as necessary as in SA1, but I still recommend it for the cool lighting/shadow effect it restores. The only mod I think you actually need for sure though is the cutscene restoration mod, which is separate from the Dreamcast one. Without it, some of the realtime cutscenes will be 4:3, while some will be widescreen.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It definitely worth it if you wanna play SA1 with soul

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fricking hell I really need to play SA2 again.

          Just let me catch my breath.

          >crashes in fullscreen

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Works on my machine, and I'm on windows 10.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You probably aren't in fullscreen then

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Works on my (Linux) machine in fullscreen with no issues. IDK what to tell you other than switch to the white man's OS bro

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Works on my (Linux) machine
              The five words that let you know someone is lying

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your loss. Excuse me while I enjoy some flawless SA2 gaming in fullscreen on my spyware-free computer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no keep scuking and deeper

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SA2's narrative is fine and, at some points, genuinely good.

      The game kinda sucks dick. Not as bad as SA1 though

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The game kinda sucks dick. Not as bad as SA1 though
        How can one post be so wrong? Both are great games.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In SA2, less than a third of the stages are any fun at all. It's even less in SA1.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he got filtered by treasure hunting and mechs
            sorry dude, I hate to use this meme, but this is quite literally a skill issue

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't say they were hard, I said they're not fun. The walker levels in particular are just a fricking snoozefest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll grant you that the walkers in SA2 are a significant downgrade from Gamma in SA1. I think the treasure hunting is legit fun though.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think the treasure hunting movement is fun. I can see a fun game being built around those kinds of level if the timer was removed and they put in a lot more puzzles and what not. But what we got was basically, "fly around the level until the radar goes hot", 9 emerald shards out of ten

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only outright bad stages are mad space and anything featuring tails.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd say it's specifically Crazy Gadget, Mad Space, and Final Chase.
              Everything else is good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Crazy Gadget is legitimately a fun stage once you master it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                AKA like every good Sonic stage

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Oh if nothing goes wrong it's a fun stage
                Oh then I guess Final Chase and Mad Space have no problems then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you sound so filtered and low test? Is it because you got emasculated by a childrens collectathon platformer video game toy and are still seething about it years later?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >What are you not a real man like me that cries when people say Crazy Gadget isn't good?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >cries
                Actual projection

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Literally only Mad Space deserves criticism, admit you were filtered by Kino Gadget and Kino Chase which are two levels that encourage creativity which is something you lack

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nah, SA2 is less of a game. they stripped SA down to make it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Not as bad as SA1 though
        Not really, I enjoyed SA1 much better than SA2.
        The trasure hunting and Tails stages were definitely better in SA1. I think SA1 could be better if it was just about Sonic, tails and knuckles... Amy, gamma and fricking Big were just dogshit fillers.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Amy, gamma and fricking Big were just filters.
          It shows. You may now dilate.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Learn how to read fricking moron

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I like playing SA2 more but Gamma has the best storyline out of any character in SA1

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People hate SA2 because theyve never played it.
      Also that comment is wrong, shadow at the end of SA2 says sonic is the ultimate life form, its why he can chaos control with a fake emerald and no prior training.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Also that comment is wrong, shadow at the end of SA2 says sonic is the ultimate life form, its why he can chaos control with a fake emerald and no prior training
        That doesn't contradict anything he said though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think some youtubers disliked the game and some people just call Sonic cringe in general. God forbid a game plays it straight and takes itself seriously. I think the game is a genuinely emotional swan song for the Sonic franchise until its comeback years later. Story isnt perfect but it has pretty moving moments like team dark wanting to save the world too, live and learn final boss, and shadows death.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When people say that Sonic is cringeworthy dogshit, they're talking about the half dozen games that came out after SA2 that were genuinely fricking awful, writing wise, not SA2 itself, which is batshit bonkers and also pretty witty. That said, SA2 is still a bad game, because it's a frick ton of filler content bolted to like 10 actually good levels, just like SA1

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >When people say that Sonic is cringeworthy dogshit, they're talking about the half dozen games that came out after SA2

          No, they're mostly just talking about SA1. That shit makes Deadly Premonition look like a masterpiece.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why am I not surprised someone who hates SA1 also hates Deadly Premonition
            Liking SA2 but not 1 is such an obvious pleb red flag
            It's like liking Aliens but not Alien, T2 but not T1, etc... the slower paced original vs the high octane sequel

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      People just realized that SA1, despite being obviously janky, is more fun to play, and it was a more ambitious game. Also, its soulful and upbeat SEGA atmosphere sticks with you, while SA2 is grittier and less distinct.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        SA2 had higher highs

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's one of the greatest video games of all time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the other day on /vr/ some anon analyzed all of the shadow level music and how it tells a story of a broken indiviusal who would throw away immortality to someone who regains his sense of purpose and ultimately sacrifices themselves for the people he once set out to destory culminating in live and learn

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sonic in general is just written off by many people. Not only because of the series' track record (which some would say rightly earns Sonic the mockery it gets), but also because of the autism produced by its fanbase (Sonic OCs, Chris Chan, weird fetish art, etc.). With SA2 in particular, many people just unironically don't understand the story. There's a lot going on under the surface in both SA and SA2, as evidenced by discussion in this thread and even the very image in your post. It takes a lot of attention and thought and knowledge of the series to put all of these pieces together, and some people just aren't willing or aren't capable of that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        its really cool how canon's core is an artificial recreation of the lost world and master emerald alter from adventure 1

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the autism produced by its fanbase (Sonic OCs, Chris Chan, weird fetish art, etc.)
        There isn't a single worst turbo cringe Sonic fan that isn't also a Nintendo fan, prove me wrong (you can't)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I fully agree with you, but people just bring up chris chan and call it a day. The amount of disgusting degenerates attached to mario is just as concerning, but people just brush it off.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah my eyes were opened when I realized looking back that the Sonic fanbase didn't get its reputation until just after SA2B came out on gamecube, that really put things into perspective. Like I have no doubt there might have been a few fringe cases here and there but that moment really clinched it by inviting tendiegenerates to the fandom en masse.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The amount of disgusting degenerates attached to mario is just as concerning
            Name them. I can’t really think of a single notably degenerate Mariogay.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The amount of disgusting degenerates attached to mario is just as concerning, but people just brush it off.
            Or, they just aren't as damaging, distructive, or actively even known. The worse I ever heard about Marioa lolcows is MariotehPlumber which might be the same guy that bought over like 1000 Rosalina amiibos just to burn them all out of sheer autistic seethe over the character or some shit. That's nothing compared to the assult, rape, and other public threat allegations Chris Chan, or even shitheads like Ken Penders, has done to the IP's image.

            That being said, the main biggest reason for the hatred of this IP is how cancerous the fanbase's attachment to it overall (it's not charming, it's pathetic), but mainly, the very point to Sonic existence, was to challenge Big N's Mario by proving it's objectively better than him. Then they go and shit out Sonic Xtreme, Sonic 06 and Sonic Boom decades apart from each other, without any 9/10+ game inbetween any of them without some kinda of exception (S2/3K, SA2, Generations, Mania). 06 was the proof SEGA is moronic and isn't infallible and deserves mockery. Nintendo never stooped that low, the closes ever was what they did to StarFox and Metriod, which they at least fixed up Metroid's reputation not to long ago, and StarFox could be salvaged if they just let the French make something with him since they did ok with that tie in game a while back.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Sonic fans throw moms, rape moms, rape dogs, brag about diaper fetishism, draw e-girl porn (this is the worst one)
              Why are only you guys like this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                this is a lot to unpack seeing as you only find the last one unacceptable

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's probably true, but branding dictates all and Sonic is the name that all of this autism gets associated with. That's not to say there's only bad autism in the Sonic fanbase. For every Chris Chan and Ken Penders we get, there's also someone like Taxman or Stealth or Tyson Hesse doing incredible things in the series' name

          I fully agree with you, but people just bring up chris chan and call it a day. The amount of disgusting degenerates attached to mario is just as concerning, but people just brush it off.

          The same reason Sonic attracts autists is the same reason it's degeneracy sticks out to normalgays: the characters are appealing, eye-grabbing, the game's world is large and open and moldable and able to accommodate anything from light-hearted adventures to grimdark elegies of loss and destruction. The characters and the world inherently stand out, for better or for worse

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >People don't ACTUALLY hate SA2, right?
      I love SA2 and it's my favorite sonic game of all time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The same people who say SA2 sucks are the same people saying 06 is underrated.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even Rouge herself was kino on her debut

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic Adventure 2 - Last Episode

    Soul is Eternal

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    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We need to go back

      >Eggman says something insightful about his grandfather and his life goals
      >"All I know is we all did it together!"
      i love the game but this shit cracks me up every time

      He's 8

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love the parallels of SA2 and MMZ4

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If we're going with Megaman it feels like X5 is a better fit even down to having a countdown and a brainwashed protagonist with a mirror match near the end.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Eggman says something insightful about his grandfather and his life goals
    >"All I know is we all did it together!"
    i love the game but this shit cracks me up every time

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think it characterizes Tails pretty well. At the end of all of it, he's just a little runt.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And then Amy asks Sonic what’s the matter as if he was about to cry, then he says nothing and then says let’s go home to Earth while saying Sayonara to Shadow the Hedgehog right before leaving, all that with the staff roll music playing nearly makes adult me tear up 🙁

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >perfectly average game
    >supreme kino
    If you replaced every Tails and Knuckles stage with Sonic stages and every Rouge and Eggman stage with Shadow stages then maybe you would have a point but as it is the game is at most a solid 7/10.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Filtered

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he got filtered by treasure hunting and mechs
        sorry dude, I hate to use this meme, but this is quite literally a skill issue

        The only outright bad stages are mad space and anything featuring tails.

        You wouldn't play a game that was all mech stages or all treasure stages. You would play a game that was all speed stages. I rest my case.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd play an all treasure stage game honestly.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wanna talk about completely mediocre games that get praised for no reason?
      Kirby is right around the corner.
      Or this...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nobody:
        not a soul:
        not even Big the Chungus:
        some moron in every Sonic thread: BUT WHAT ABOUT KIRBY GAMES!?!?!?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          so... you gonna give a real argument or what?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was no argument? Why should we care about your favorite baby game series or offbrand Final Fantasy shit that died 2 games in?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh so you don't give a shit about either Kirbyslop or Chrono Black person?
              Good.
              we are best pals now

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Those 3 games are not even the same genre... what the frick kind of "argument" are you trying to make here...

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >these 2 platformers are not platformers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >i'm a moron, and a piece of shit
                yep, everybody already knew this, but thanks for the confirmation

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                suck it up gay, kirby is dogshit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Holy seethe
              have a nice day and dilate troon YWNBAW

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off back to 9gag

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you: *says that*
            me: Heavy's voice <NO!>

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We're closer now than we have been in the past 15 years at least.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Unleashed and Black Knight
      >not more kino than Sonic New Genesis: Generations Assets and Sonic PSVita Graphics (courtesy of Rafaknight who created Amy Rose)

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    3D sonic should just be 2D sonic, but in 3D space. The homing attack is an addition to accommodate for the difficulty of maneuvering in the air in 3D. I don't know why they abandoned this obvious design ethos after the adventure games and never returned. I don't care how "ok" the new games are, why the frick does sonic control like a drifting car and have a "go fast" button, why the shitty marvel humor. I'd take a version of SA2 with twice as much mo cap, glitches, and tails stages before I buy a modern sega game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3D sonic should just be 2D sonic, but in 3D space.
      It is, that's why it's just hallways lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >3D sonic should just be 2D sonic, but in 3D space.
      That's actually what it already is though.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >why the frick does sonic control like a drifting car and have a "go fast" button
      The "go fast" button actually works surprisingly well in 2D games (Rush and Rush Adventure)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Rush games gave you the boost and asked you to master it and the other mechanics like the trick system or else you'd either run out or just run into things like a moron. I think the problem with the boost in 3D is that it replenishes simply by grabbing rings and you're not managing the meter at all, it's just go fast all the time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Colors had a better approach, but Colors was also mostly a 2D game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You replenish it with tricks in the 3D games too and you do have to manage it otherwise some sections and bosses are undefeatable

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And it has since been supplanted by the drop dash, a more fitting and engaging way to go fast

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >(Rush and Rush Adventure)
        And Unleashed and Colors and Generations and Forces and Frontiers cyberspace levels

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sonic lore gays, how do Super Forms work in terms of energy/time? Can they only sustain the form for X amount of set time, does it need to be kept up using "ring energy", or is it a huge pool of X amount of energy that once used up, requires a recharge through the Chaos Emeralds?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Rings are connected to the emeralds according to the sega genesis games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can we all agree Trip’s Super Form is lame and looks like a Spyro NPC?

      At least Burning Blaze still resembles her base design

      They should’ve just given Trip her own unique Emeralds like Blaze with the Sol Emeralds

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What game is she from? I've never heard of her

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like the idea of her Super Form being a dragon, it's cooler than other characters like Tails and Knuckles just turning a slightly different shade of color. More unique Super Forms are a good idea. The problem is the designs they went for the dragons in Superstars was fricking lame and doesn't look very Sonic at all.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks more like horse show to me.

        What game is she from? I've never heard of her

        She's from Sonic 4 Episode 3.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGzhKV8SVIk
    no crying allowed

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To the pressure everything's just like
    An illusion I'll be losing you before long

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We might hit that peak with the 3rd movie; at least I hope so.
    It probably helps that it's based directly on this particular game.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I really don't trust Hollywood to do it justice. The knuckles show sucked bad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It will be decent like all the live action Sonic stuff but there's no way it's faithful to the game
        Just some references that fans will get
        The mistake of the Sonic movies is the need to have human characters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Knuckles show was great unless you watched it expecting it to mostly be about Knuckles which anyone who has watched the movies would know better but you never know with some morons.

        >Sonic Adventure
        >Sonic Shuffle
        >Sonic Adventure 2
        Only Sonic games created for the Dreamcast. Two of them are good and the other is awful.

        I agree, SA1 and Shuffle are peak kino.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WHO THE FRICK WOULDN'T EXPECT A SHOW TO BE ABOUT THE CHARACTER ITS NAMED AFTER.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Like I said: anyone who didn't watch both movies.

            >The Knuckles show was great
            Yeah I liked the episode that was literally just an hour of IDF propaganda

            It was great just for how overt and ridiculous it was. Stay filtered.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The Sonic movies were still about Sonic you moron. The black lady wedding scene and b plot is not on the same level as shafting the main character for some israelite and it's not even good.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The wedding scene is all that people remember from the movie and the Knuckles show is more funny than either movie anyway. It's also proof you don't need to only focus on Sonic characters to make a good product because Prime did that and it's easily the worst Sonic show even counting AoStH.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not that anon, but wrong. I didn't watch that crap because of the black wedding stuff. I wanted a sonic movie, not black people and friends with sonic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you're moronic then

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No. I just love sonic, and sonic media. That wasn't a sonic movie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was a sonic movie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a troll don't give it attention.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not though. I've been a fan of sonic since the Dreamcast days. I just hated those movies man.

                Frontiers though.

                [...]
                >Eggman basically did everything he did in all the games in order to live up to the image he built up of his grandfather.
                The same grandfather that was introduced out of nowhere in SA2. Sonic games were never well written.

                It was okay. I actually prefer the japanese script because it wasn't full of references.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No the guy who said movies are good because they're about humans is the troll. Now stop talking about the movies in general for a while to get him to piss off.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Least obsessed /vpol/ culture warrior that can't stop thinking about black people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not really. I don't care about black people. I just wanted a sonic movie. I was in japan at the time when it released there and nobody in my friend group was interested.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You avoided a movie because it has black people and because of peer pressure. You're normalgayslop with a side of obsessed /misc/ wannabe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can always pirate the movie and edit out the black parts.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you can always waste your time and think about black people the entire time you do it
                Do Sonicgays really? Neither movie is good, the most notable thing about them is that they're solid 5/10s instead of the 2/10s everyone expected them to be. If you changed every character to be from Fortnite instead the movies would actually make more sense, that's how zoomershit garbage they are.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and nobody in my friend group was interested.
                Black person, no one in Japland ever liked Sonic at all in the first place.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Prime is the worst show
                TRIPLETS BORN

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Underground is secretly kino.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The Knuckles show was great
          Yeah I liked the episode that was literally just an hour of IDF propaganda

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Jeff is a Shadow autist and Tyson Hesse is basically the lore master watching over it. I'm not worried.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >flossing and time travel
          It will suck but I'm going to watch it anyway. At best it can't get any worse than 2, which will make it a 6/10 at most.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy mother of cope.
      >it's based directly on this particular game.
      You guys remember how SA2's main plot was about time travel? Me neither.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no Rouge? not my SA2.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's depressing to know they went from SA2 to Heroes, and in a short amount of time.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Sonic Adventure
    >Sonic Shuffle
    >Sonic Adventure 2
    Only Sonic games created for the Dreamcast. Two of them are good and the other is awful.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All of these games are great

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they've literally had 23 years to figure out how and look what they did.
    i don't think so, anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They don't need to "figure out how"
      They already knew how
      The reason the last 23 years went how they did is because of the massive amount of criticism they got for doing so
      Everybody (read fake Sonic fans) complained about Adventure era Sonic so Sega basically said "okay if you don't like this good stuff we'll show you how bad this franchise can get" and now everybody is begging to go back to Adventure

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They already knew how
        do they?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >we love Mario! Sonic is bad!
          >okay we'll make Sonic like Mario
          >what the heck this is terrible!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you mean
            >okay we'll make Sonic Xtreme without the filthy gaijin

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you mean
              >okay we'll make Mario Galaxy without the fun gameplay or cool aesthetic

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Mario Galaxy
                Xtreme came first

                No Lost World was obviously Sonic trying to be Mario
                It has nothing to do with Sonic Xtreme except to say that Sega was so innovative everybody used to rip them off including Nintendo
                The Zeti are literally just knockoff Bowser and the Koopalings and the whole structure of the game is Mario-esque

                >It has nothing to do with Sonic Xtreme except
                vertical and horizontal movement through the stages with a fisheye lens perspective.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LW takes no inspiration from Mario Galaxy
                And Frontiers takes no inspiration from BotW, right. Last (You) from me, you delusional shitposting moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >LW takes no inspiration from Xtreme

                It's really reaching to say Lost World was inspired by Xtreme
                Even the art style is not the same and I don't remember the devs ever saying they were inspired by Xtreme even though that would been a good way to deny the fact they were obviously inspired by Mario

                >SEGA totally hasn't said they
                these are the anons that believe Resident Evil was based on Sweet Home, a 2D, tile-based, turn-based NES JRPG.
                lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Capcom says RE was inspired by Sweet Home because they developed Sweet Home
                If Lost World was really inspired by Xtreme why wouldn't Sega just say that? Fans probably would've loved that they referenced Xtreme at all

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sonic Team would unironically rather suck off every Mario game than give credit to a single western Sonic dev or game.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's really reaching to say Lost World was inspired by Xtreme
                Even the art style is not the same and I don't remember the devs ever saying they were inspired by Xtreme even though that would been a good way to deny the fact they were obviously inspired by Mario

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I'm convinced any similarities to Xtreme are purely coincidental

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fun gameplay or cool aesthetic
                >Mario Galaxy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No Lost World was obviously Sonic trying to be Mario
              It has nothing to do with Sonic Xtreme except to say that Sega was so innovative everybody used to rip them off including Nintendo
              The Zeti are literally just knockoff Bowser and the Koopalings and the whole structure of the game is Mario-esque

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No Lost World was obviously Sonic trying to be Mario
            It has nothing to do with Sonic Xtreme except to say that Sega was so innovative everybody used to rip them off including Nintendo
            The Zeti are literally just knockoff Bowser and the Koopalings and the whole structure of the game is Mario-esque

            It was trying to be Mario but it honestly succeeded, definitely better than the new super mario bros shit, it was a decent platformer, just a bad sonic game

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >on screen notifications that halt gameplay every time your wisp power runs out
              It was a terrible game

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Mindlessly aping other franchises is bad
            Well, duh.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They already knew how
        No, after Generations everyone that knew how to make a good game left the company.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. I'll give Morio that he's trying to learn at this point, (and in all fairness, he nailed Black Knight) but Frontiers is clearly their attempt to rekindle the adventure era kino, but it's still holding back because of the poor staff choices (looking at you, Ian Flynn), and trying to have its cake and eat it too since it's clearly still trying to please the non-fans who like the Colors/Meta era as well. Maybe Morio will eventually figure out all the criticism for the Adventure era is false and bolstered by fake "fans" and hook up with Maekawa again, but until then we'll have to deal with a bunch of start ups trying to learn gaming fundamentals in a sea of bad feedback.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he nailed Black Knight
            That was in spite of him not because of him
            >but it's still holding back because of the poor staff choices
            Yes, they definitely need better game develo-
            >(looking at you, Ian Flynn)
            Oh you just care about story shit and not gameplay. You're one of *those* Sonic fans.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Oh you just care about story shit and not gameplay. You're one of *those* Sonic fans.
              And you're one of these if you don't care about the story.
              And frickoff, I did mainly talk about gameplay homosexual, I said the main staff are a bunch of upstarts who have to learn gaming fundamentals in a sea of bad feedback.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >y-yeah well here's you!
                Not reading your wojak. Stay moronic, I know you will.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think you're the moron around here. Actually I take that back. You're not even smart enough to be a moron.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'LL MAKE YOU EAT THESE wienerS

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why should Sonic be beloved like this, though? Why does Sonic deserve to be respected? Look at you bastards, you're all disgusting. It would look far far better if SEGA stop trying to be cool about Sonic and just be competent and just made a solid game without trying to be Mozart about it. Not even Mario and Nintendo is this up its ass about looking like the best anymore, they just know how to not frick up by being these "grand epics" morons like to slurp up.

        SEGA's biggest problem was being too snobbish about Sonic's "point". He's never going to be some big shonen Anime you think he deserves to be, he's better off just being good at what he is, not best for trying to be "that guy".

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why should Sonic be beloved like this, though?
          There is no inherent reason, the fact that so many people like the franchise is what gives it its strength just like any other lowest common denominator slop.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SA2 reminds me of No More Heroes 2. It's more polished, removes the hub world, and has some gameplay improvements, yet it's missing the charm and likeability of the original.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NMH2 was an upgrade in every way except the soundtrack, ironically just like SA2 compared to 1.

      idk if its a popular opinion but i think frontiers was a step in the right direction for the narratives of the games
      looking forward to more sage kino

      >a step in the right direction
      The eternal cope of Sonicgays.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    idk if its a popular opinion but i think frontiers was a step in the right direction for the narratives of the games
    looking forward to more sage kino

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Adventure
    >Adventure 2
    >Heroes
    >Shadow
    >06
    The journey from SA1 to 06 is fascinating

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >ok we need to bring it back to classic
      >oh ok people like edgy and Shadow so we'll do that
      >ok well that bombed so we'll start again with SA1- hey where did our budget and dev time and devs all go?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are both hero and dark endings canon? Dark is the only one that makes sense, except sonic and tails should be dead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Dark is the only one that makes sense, except it doesn't actually make sense

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sonic canonically beats Shadow on the ARK. Tails canonically beats Eggman but Ivo played possum and takes Tails’s emerald and places it in the eclipse cannon.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>it's a collect 100 rings on a mech level emblem

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Recently i just watched japanese Sonic X only Shadow episodes with my wife and it's funny how i didn't notice how good the shadow story was, i still think people are biased with Adventure 2 because it has a lot of shitty levels with Tails and Knuckles but Sonic and Shadow are really fun, out of this people think the story is good in english but in japanese it's something else, i really enjoyed and now i appreacite it a lot more, so sad they fricked that shit and retcon the shadow didn't met maria thing.

    did we see kino like this? yes we did, unleashed and black knight are really good narrative and they deserved being appreciate like they are doing now, even if black knight it's bad to play. Frontiers also did a good job even if it's the development of characters didn't even started they tried and showed something we didn't see in a while and i hope they make so much better for the next game with finally AAA budget. Also i really Shadow gets the respect he deserves because this shitty site and sadly it's own game made a lot of damage to the character

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unleashed's story was only good at the end, Chip being a floating Scrappy Doo ruined most of the game.
      >even if black knight it's bad to play
      Better than all the werehog shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        werehog is far good than black knight, even if i think sonic with a sword would be cooler

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You can't speak proper English, so your opinion is worthless.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            cope

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Recently i just watched japanese Sonic X only Shadow episodes with my wife
      >tfw no autistic wife

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Recently i just watched japanese Sonic X only Shadow episodes with my wife
      >tfw no autistic wife

      god i want an autistic wife or gf

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Recently i just watched japanese Sonic X only Shadow episodes with my wife
        >tfw no autistic wife

        It's not all it's cracked up to be

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wait what?? Shadow never met Maria in the original script? Does that mean Shadow just has fake memories or what

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's exactly what happened.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not saying you're wrong, but how on Earth does that make any sense LMAO. In SA2, Shadow constantly is triggered by moments in the story to remember Maria struggling to escape with Shadow and making him promise to help the people of Earth. Why would Gerald create memories that would directly make Shadow not want to destroy the Earth?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've seen this claimed, but I don't see how it could be true. Gerald definitely fricked with Shadow's memories, but there's 0% chance he didn't meet Maria.

          Amy seemingly broke this brainwashing when she begged him for help in the True Story, as Shadow remembered the true memories rather than the altered Gerald ones.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The whole point of Gerald "being in complete control of his memories" is that he messed with his memories of Maria's wish so that he'd go along with his plan for revenge. The whole thing with Shadow finally remembering her real last words becomes absolute moron nonsense if he's actually just changing from a fake engineered memory to a different version of the fake memory that's so fake that it was made up on the spot. Why would Amy's words randomly reprogram his brain and invent an entirely new fake memory and overwrite the old one?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Shadow has the mind of an actual 15 year old in universe, you don't think his mental growth could be built off of fake memories?

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss this era of sonic so much. Even heroes was kind of like these games. Everything afterwards never felt right.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frontiers though.

      Eggman basically did everything he did in all the games in order to live up to the image he built up of his grandfather. He realizes he was wrong after being confronted by the reality of his grandfather being a omnicidal lunatic and decides to change. Sonic Adventure 2 was supposed to be the series finale.

      >Eggman basically did everything he did in all the games in order to live up to the image he built up of his grandfather.
      The same grandfather that was introduced out of nowhere in SA2. Sonic games were never well written.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because people consider this cringe nowadays.
    It's just kino battle shounen plot writing a la Dragon Ball Z or something along those lines.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >''''''''''''people''''''''''

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The way the Sonic series has changed is such an amazing example of so many things:
    How not to evolve a franchise and its characters
    Why it's important to not listen to your fanbase at times
    The way people have been irony poisoned in regards to storytelling

    It's funny how Sonic often gets compared to Dragon Ball for their similarities and they've both deteriorated in the exact same way
    But Sonic got it much worse...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the screen tells a good obersvation about the game but i like the japanese Sonic in Sonic X that he knew he could escape any time he wants but just did it because he wanted to know the truth about Shadow

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why it's important to not listen to your fanbase at times
      This very fanbases' idea of what Sonic should be is literally headcanons from fricking fanfiction like SMBZ and Nazo Unleashed. It's been extremely poisoned from a video game standard I'm shocked it's considered ok when if this was a Sony IP it would have been shat on endless for being just movieslop. I genuine wish Nintendo just brought the rights to Sonic with the Shatarn, then absolutely none of this autistic shit would exist and everyone here today would have fricked off to some other IP that deserves this level of degenercy.

      >No more fan game autism that leads to no games actually coming out on a professional level
      >Archieshit would have never ever happened, period, including ShatAM
      >This autistic attactment to shonen as if it's the only form a medium that can be ever entertaining for Sonic to be based on.
      All while actually getting solidly programed video games, and actively showing what happens when you frick around with Nintendo. They already took Bayo away, they should have done the same to every SEGA IP they ever own'd. Unlike M$ Nintendo would actually make good with all of these IPs instead of sitting on them just to rot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sonic’s identity was always shonen. It’s not a headcanon.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >literally headcanons from fricking fanfiction like SMBZ and Nazo Unleashed
        So DBZ knockoffs...like the way Sonic Team sees the characters

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        would have never ever happened, period, including ShatAM
        nah, SatAM came first. Archie was allowed to play with the characters and setting.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder how much better or worse the entire Sonic fanbase would have ended up if it was AoSTH that A****e decided to adapt instead

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they did.
            in the beginning, the comic was this weird mix of both shows.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >weird
              *kino
              Early Archie's pun game was on point and the troll physics were out of this world.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i bought my first issue when i was 10 and it was so lame i never bought another.

                No it did not you gaslighting zoomer b***h. Go cry about trans rights in an overly long video essay where all you do is summarize the plot of a video game.

                how does one become this unhinged?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                HAHAHAHAHAHA
                >l-look! the internet says this is where modern started s-s-so there!
                Bitch? Why the frick should I care what israelitegle told you? Don't step to me with this appeal to authority gay shit, b***h I TOLD you when modern started so that's the way it is. Find Jesus and love yourself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > appeal to authority
                little son, i AM the authority.
                i wonder how many times a day your mother imagines putting a bullet in your jibbering mouth.
                probably every time you scream at her for choccy and nuggies, i imagine.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't scream I just text her because I'm not an unhinged psychopath like you clearly are, I text her like b***h WHERE MY CHICKEN and wa-la, it appears through the basement door slot.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Doubt it would've lasted long if it never progressed past the gag era. Possibly dying with AOSTH. No Penders Echidna BS, but we'd miss out on true kino like the Sonic Universe books.
            And the Sonic fandom would still continue to be just as autistic, without a doubt.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ok miyamoto

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bayo2 reduced lewd and gore, and combat wasn’t as deep/rewarding. It also had a middle point story slog but that is common in many games in the genre. But it was still a great sequel, that did justice to the character, and added some noce features and good story. (And removed the annoying QTEs )

        Bayo3 had better combat than 2. Violet was unexpectedly good ( was expecting a western feminist nazy, actual violet was a great surprise, and different gameplay was very good) . It also provided more replay ability as the playable chars actually play fundamentally different.
        The story was interesting but i think it does not pay service to Bayo well enough. Not because of the autist’s “bayo lesbian” moronic theories, but rather because Bayo does not have the same “in control” appetamce as in other fames, there’s too many times were she feels desperate, which in previous games only happens at final boss. The Heart giving to demons is also silly, previous games show that her deamons besides the MadamB obey her because she beats/tames them. She is actually stronger than them. In this one she is constantly feeling outmatched and looks like needing to sacrifice something to them.

        Nothing against seeing other word bayos dying, as long as they are just shown “desperate” in their final moment, or maybe not even there.

        The bayo we play seems “weak/desperate” just too many times.
        Not the same silly witch domme messing with principalities. Her “releasing hair” in Bayo1 vs bosses was much more appropriate then the heart in Bayo3. Bayo2 was weird (not meaning it in a bad/good way rather in a different way) with that being a button (pretty much bayo’s version of devil trigger )

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SA2 threads are the most toxic Sonic threads on Ganker

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If any anon here is learning japanese. I would recommend the sonic adventure games. I was able to play through them at about a n5-4 level of comprehension, and catching the differences between the scripts is really neat.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Chao Garden was fricking stupid and the only people that suck it off like it was the seconding coming were poorgays that could only afford SA2 so they sunk 80% of their youth into it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I am so sorry your favorite sonic game doesn't have a reason for you to keep replaying it.
      Unless you like Sonic 2
      then you are a moron and a fake fan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I replay my favorite Sonic game because I enjoy playing it, I don't need a carrot on a stick.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >be me
          >replay stages I like because they're fun
          >be you
          >replay stages because of some proto-gacha garbage
          I think I'll keep doing things my way.

          Now, mention these games.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            3&K and Mania.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Show me your fastest sandopolis clear.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >time too high, "you are le bad at game"
                >time too low "speedrunning troony"
                Nah

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >time too high, "you are le bad at game"
              >time too low "speedrunning troony"
              Nah

              >Deflecting
              heh, nothing personnel homosexual.
              Btw, I sure love these Sonic 3 bosses that kill themselves and just make you wait 50 seconds for a glorified cutscene.
              I love 3&K but dang if the low parts are vile.
              Mania is ok, no issues with that, press garden and titanic monarch kinda suck but that's about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one plays Sonic for the bosses and 50 seconds is nothing when fast forwarded on emulator, compared to nuclassic where it's 50 seconds between hits and no speed up option.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >having to fast forward your game to enjoy it
                might as well play slopokemon at that point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >no you don't deserve control over your gaming experience and you can only play a game that you consider perfect in every way
                At least I can admit when a game I like isn't perfect, you only see everything in black and white because you have low iq.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >See everything in black and white
                sorry for having actually experienced shit like this in actual hardware, you wouldn't last 120 rings in the Pit

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if I had to suffer, you do too!
                Time for bed, grandpa.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            SA1, SA2, Advance games, Heroes, Rush trilogy, Shadow, Unleashed, SatBK, Generations, SASRT, Forces, TSR, and Frontiers. I don't play classicringe games.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >SA1 and 2, which got chao gardens and objetives
              >Can't trust anyone that likes Advance slop.
              >Rush
              >Forces
              >Frontier
              >No classic (Which means no 1, cd and 3&k)
              Ok bait, made me reply

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >which got chao gardens and objetives
                Neither of which are required to replay stages, moron.
                >1 and CD
                >good
                Sorry but I actually respect my time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I actually respect my time
                >Plays advance and rush game
                >plays forces
                even better bait, you're good at this

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't know why you're acting like "I replay stages I like" equals "I play each game all the way through all the time including the annoying parts" but I guess you have to cope somehow after being called out for thinking 1 and CD are good.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be me
        >replay stages I like because they're fun
        >be you
        >replay stages because of some proto-gacha garbage
        I think I'll keep doing things my way.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    super kino
    the writing in this game is way to good for a children's video game

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Tfw I've never had a chance to use the line "Because you just told me, fox boy" in real life.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you need to go to more furry conventions

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Go to furry con
          >Chat up some non-suited furries
          >"So you're into foxes, aren't you?"
          >"Haha, yeah. How did you know Anon?"
          >"Because you just told, me Fox Boy!"

          Why do you know this? I was told Sonicchads weren't actual furgays.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not, but who fricking else would you ever call "fox boy" in any context?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Toby in his discord

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Go to furry con
        >Chat up some non-suited furries
        >"So you're into foxes, aren't you?"
        >"Haha, yeah. How did you know Anon?"
        >"Because you just told, me Fox Boy!"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss brave tails.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the kind of thread you get when you start it with a question that has already been answered and the answer is obvious to literally everyone.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking love this scene. Eggman opens up to probably the only other person in the series who can match him intellectually. He actually shows a bit of humanity, self reflection, and growth. And tails just responds with
    >uh huh well the important thing is we did it together 😀
    Like he doesnt even give a shit lmao

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      After everything he did in general or even in SA2 alone, that was more consideration than he deserved.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With Ian Flynn writing? Not a fricking chance.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Archiegays wanted this. They memed him into becoming head writer just like /misc/ memed Trump into power.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love how Adventure 2 gets discussed basically every day even after 20 years and still gets mods out the ass when most AAA slop is forgotten after a month.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's the power of a flawed game with a great concept "having potential." If SA2 was a perfect game, no one would give a shit about it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Deus Ex and God Hand still get plenty of discussion even though their entire franchises are dead

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          DE because it's political and GH because of the score meme

          [...]
          I 100% Black Knight (everything was great except for the gameplay) but I couldn't get through even a few levels of Secret Rings. I should probably go back and do that just so I can say that I did and have a better understanding of the series

          Emulate it and toggle the waggle to buttons, you're welcome.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >DE because it's political
            It's political writing is a part of it, but only because the game is a shining example of political writing done right. It's only remembered for its politics because on top of the political discussion and thought it inspires (and doesn't bash players on the head with), the game is also known for being one of the most well-designed, open-ended, and fulfilling immersive sims ever made. Of course you can't forget the timeless performance of Jay Anthony Franke who gave us one of the most memorable and quotable videogame characters in the history of games in the protagonist JC Denton
            >GH because of the score meme
            That's only a footnote on a game that's lauded as one of the most fun, in-depth, challenging, and rewarding fighting games ever made

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't know man I don't even play those games, one looked like a jank walking sim trying to be CoD and the other just looked jank.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You should give them an honest try when you're not trying to dunk on people online, they still get brought up to this day for a good reason.
                Deus Ex is on Steam and runs very well with a fan-made patch that's easy to install (many older PC games have bugs that come from compatibility issues with newer hardware/software)
                https://store.steampowered.com/app/6910/Deus_Ex_Game_of_the_Year_Edition/
                (Simple guide on installing the patch)
                https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1545954786

                With God Hand, the only good way to play it is via emulation. I followed this decade-old image and it worked perfectly for me, but if you need more guidance on emulation in general then the description of this YouTube video should have everything you need to play except for a USB controller and a PS2 BIOS file (which you can find using Google)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I already told you what they look like, I'm not going to play them just to satisfy your autism.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Like I said, think back on them when you're not trying to win anonymous Internet arguments. This is for your benefit, not mine

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ganker has literally never recommended me good games so I get that maybe you like them but I saw them and knew they weren't for me.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well, what kind of games do you like?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >heh just tell me all your favorites so I can call them shit
                Last (You) from me, obvious baiting trollgay.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't recommend you a game you'll like if I don't have an idea of your tastes. You don't have to act so vulnerable all the time, no one is forcing you to look at this thread of my replies, if you don't like what I have to say you can just ignore me or leave the thread and when the thread falls off the catalog it will be like this conversation never happened.

                Though you're in a Sonic thread, so I can take a guess and say you'll enjoy Pizza Tower, it's very Warioland coded but it does have the speed and control that a lot of people value in Sonic games

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >8 hour analysis of SA2
    >troony voice talking about Nietzsche in the first two minutes
    I wish I was making this one up.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >SA2
    >troony fanbase
    Pick two or more

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So the movie's gonna have the faker scene right?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes but it will do it in a very self aware way

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I rarely see people mention this, but this cutsene to me is the coolest interaction between Sonic and Shadow in the whole game, and why I love SA2

    >the slow, dramatic music
    >both of them walking together while moving to a jog, and then a full on sprint, all while still talking
    >the way the camera switches from both sides capturing the whole theme of the game
    >shadow actually being surprised and amused with sonic's talent, and his response being a nonchalant 'I am what I am'
    >sickest rival fight that ends without even showing who won, we never get to see who was stronger/faster in the end

    This interaction alone has more character than ANYTHING else in the whole fricking franchise, Sega WISHES Frontiers had this good of writing.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >sickest rival fight
      I wanted to contest this but it's true only because every other rival fight is so much worse.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ?si=Xi3SRzyG8fOIe1Qk
      Kino fight song that blends their music style together.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >five minutes til the planet buster goes off
      >sonic, equipped with the tools to stop it, is standing still, silently staring down the final stretch
      it's the little things

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      back when i was a kid SA2 was so fricking KINO that frankly the messed up EN audio didn't bother me in the slightest. just thinking about some of the cutscenes still get me pumped

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      true but I can't watch this cutscene anymore without thinking about "You're a beta male Sonic"

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get why people hate snapcube, that shit was hilarious

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't get why people hate snapcube
          The whole being a troony freak thing is probably the main reason.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can't tell if you're calling me a troony or saying one of the dubbers is a troony, but it probably doesn't matter either way.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Snapcube is a troony literally.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meh, still makes funny videos. Guess that's proof that someone being a troony doesn't automatically discredit everything about them.

                >sonic to the final boss:
                >credits roll

                Kek it's perfect

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't get why people hate snapcube, that shit was hilarious

        Zoomers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Zoomers have better sense of humor than millenials

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Their idea of humor is going “[FICTIONAL CHARACTER] says trans rights!”

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, that's millenials all right.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I preordered Sonic 06 because I was like "Oh boy there's no way they would be so fricking moronic as to get rid of Chao Garden entirely in all titles going forward"

    You almost want to lash out at Gamefreak over this out of confusion and habit, but no, Sonic Team's just fricking moronic

    Not even a mobile game!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never understood the love for the chao garden, I put a few hours into it trying to feel something but it was just tedious. The only cool thing about it is the way their bodies change depending on what you give them but the grind is insane from what I've seen.

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wish they would give us some decent spinoffs in between games. I'd like...
    >Another Sonic Fighter
    >A mech-shooter with Eggman/tail/random egg-robo
    >A stealth/action game with Rouge

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Panzer Dragoon but Eggman and Tails

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You get Secret Agent Cheese.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I want an Eggman RTS/Roller Coaster Tycoon game. Use robots to gather materials to build and upgrade more machines so you can make even more robots.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sonicgays dont like the games they just like the world, thats why they always want [thing] but sonic

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They still do make spinoffs... exclusively for mobile platforms

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon, just because Superstars *looks* like a mobile game...

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >A mech-shooter with Eggman/tail/random egg-robo
      It's criminal that eggman has only been playable like twice, that one level where you're going between ships and mowing everything down was great

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There isn't a single Sonic game not even Unleashed with a good, let alone great story. There, I said it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What was bad about the story for Sonic Adventure 1 and 2?

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've found you, fricker!

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Eggman got drip

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good color for him

      Throw some green in there and we got Unit 01

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So when will this dogshit group of clowns going to stop it with the "just get used to the BAD GAME DESIGN/GAMEPLAY LMAOOOOOOOOO!", and just accept some devs can't make a good game? Why is Sonic of all IPs not allowed to have objectively shitty programmed slop? Any other IP it's all good and dandy to call out, but SEGAgays REFUSE to have Sonic ever criticize anymore as if sucking these slops up is going to make the games good somehow.

    I literally never seen this behavior in any other fandom before. Not one group of people behaves like this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You act like Sonic fans aren't the most critical towards their own series' games

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The ones that call it out for what it is gets far more put on them from the side that defends the state of the IP 100 times over. Just look at this thread, Twitter or Youtube, you can't go a day saying factual about the quality of Sonic without someone dismissing it or attacking them for even bringing it up.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People (me) are posting time attack challenges for sonic1 in /sthg/ if you guys want to test your mettle

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Classic Sonicgays need to find their own thread
      >vg
      You have to go back

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that everything up to SA2 is classic, modern started at SA2B.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      anon, modern started with Adventure 1.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No it did not you gaslighting zoomer b***h. Go cry about trans rights in an overly long video essay where all you do is summarize the plot of a video game.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You will never be a real classic.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Adventure 1 is classic coded, not a classic game. It's a modern game. It actually started with Sonic Pocket Adventure, which is literally modern Sonic retelling the events of classics in modern's eyes.

    Just like how Mania is a Classic game, while games like Sonic 4 and arguably Sonic Super Stars is classic coded. They "have classic elements" but doesn't completely embrace it, just replaces it.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I miss my wife tails. I miss her a lot.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Your Tails wife?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I miss my boywife Tails. I miss HIM a lot. I own him. I want to make him shoot his boymilk all over me by tickling the inside of his fox bussy with my wiener.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Tails is such a fricking bawd. He needs to be bred and pounded into obedience by human men (and by Sonic as well)

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meh. The first one is better. I honestly didn't care much for Sonic Adventure 2, the weird semi-realistic humans, robots and environments were really jarring, I much preferred the cartoonier vibe of SA1. Also I've been having much more fun with the actual gameplay of SA1, it feels much more like "Sonic but in 3D".
    Shame Heroes was a buggy mess of a game, if it actually worked as intended it'd be a favourite of mine. Alas, it's a complete shitfest with really good presentation and a godly soundtrack.

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    isnt female tails just gadget hackwrench

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If the world chooses to become my enemy... I will fight like I always have!
    This is the optimal level of Chuuni.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Can't wait to see how Ian fricks this up in Shadow Generations

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We'll probably get Super Shadow vs Mephiles the Time Eater

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If Sonic's world chooses to become my enemy like it did in Shadow the Hedgehog where I had to fight off both GUN forces and Black Arms regardless of what mission I was doing...I will cheer on Sonic from the sidelines like I always have! *Reach for the Stars starts playing as Super Sonic appears and fights Phantom Doom with the Ruby embedded in its chest*
        Holy FUARKING kinography

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you like Smash, get the Project Melee EX mod for Brawl. It's the best Sonic representation you'll never get in the actual Smash games.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Stars don't twinkle: the moon doesn't shine.
    >Birds don't sing; the wind doesn't blow.
    >To the pure body; to the perfect existence.
    >I'm shivering with cold. I struggle with despair.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Chow Main
    Chow Mein*

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's pretty obvious to anyone with half a brain that yeah, if you look at SA2's story analytically for even 5 seconds it easily falls apart in plot holes and characters doing things that don't make any fricking sense at all. But the thing is, you're not supposed to. It's clearly going for a B-List over the top action flick vibe where the Rule of Cool takes priority over everything else and succeeds with flying colors at accomplishing that. In the end, it's still one of the most memorable Sonic stories to this day and is endlessly quoted even by non-diehard Sonic fans so I would absolutely qualify it as good.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's bad on purpose
      Only Sonicgays, kek

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wait until you see kirbygays

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stay obsessed, Kirby poster

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See, that's fun. That's normal to think. Not "THIS GAME REDEFINES ALL GAMES EVAR AND NO OTHER SONIC GAME IS ALLOWED TO BE LIKED OVER IT" that Sonicgays do. This game was far better being appreciated for being stupid and over the time, not a prodigy of video games. Just because games suck now doesn't make this game the "correct" direction for video games. It's one of many directions. That's what Sonic is best at, doing whatever direction SEGA wants him to go in.

      The problem still is the gameplay quality, which needs to stop being ignored with "just get good" or "you just don't get it". If the average joe cannot just play it and enjoy it, and has to "master" it to "enjoy" it it's not a good game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok but have you tried getting good? Just saying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I 100%'d SA2 20 years ago
          Yes, it still sucked. No where as clean of enjoyment as other games.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i think that's supposed to be
      >Toriyaaaaa!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I fail to see how the story falls apart

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >le........le cartoon animals aren't real!
        I guarantee that's probably what he means.

        Anyone have that youtube video where the guy does an analysis on how bad the plot is for SA2, only for it to be a fake-out halfway through and he explains in depth on why it's good?

        Go ahead and shill your video if you're going to.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Off the top of my head, the things that don't make sense in SA2:
        >why Eggman was so desperate to get the 7th Chaos Emerald when 6 was already enough to blow up half the moon and threaten the Earth with
        >why Rouge doesn't take the Emeralds from the Eclipse Cannon when Shadow leaves to go fight Sonic
        >why Sonic and Tails brought the real Emerald with them to the ARK
        >why Sonic and Tails brought Amy with them to the ARK
        >Shadow and Rouge chasing Tails during the mid-game going absolutely fricking nowhere and just feeling like filler
        >all the logistics of how Gerald set up this complicated ass master plan
        >how the frick did Gerald even record that video of him why would GUN just let him record that at his execution
        >why GUN didn't FRICKING DO ANYTHING about anything he said in that video, he was literally threatening the Earth and everyone there heard him
        >Tails jumping from a smart whiz kid who is good with machines in the Classics and SA1 to literally recreating a fake Chaos Emerald, a magical item with unlimited energy good enough to fool machines

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          yeah sure pariah, we all saw the video

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >all the logistics of how Gerald set up this complicated ass master plan
          Simple: He doesn't. Shadow does. GUN still had Gerald working on projects during his imprisonment, it was only after he finally heard of Maria's death that he went mad and they executed him. He still had access to Shadow, and control over his memories; whenever he modified Shadow's memory of Maria's last words is when he also gave Shadow the plan.
          When Eggman first unseals Shadow, Shadow teleports to the ARK, and Eggman doesn't arrive there until later. That's when he reprograms it as per Gerald's instructions.
          >how the frick did Gerald even record that video of him why would GUN just let him record that at his execution
          He didn't record it. It's just what he said in his execution tape. GUN would've recorded it whether he had any last words or not, Shadow just nabbed the tape while he was still in the GUN base, probably directed by Gerald who knew ahead of time he was going to make that speech before his execution.
          >why GUN didn't FRICKING DO ANYTHING about anything he said in that video, he was literally threatening the Earth and everyone there heard him
          Because at the time, it was just the babblings of a crazy old man, they could check the ARK themselves and none of what he said had been done. He had no access to it anymore.
          >Tails jumping from a smart whiz kid who is good with machines in the Classics and SA1 to literally recreating a fake Chaos Emerald, a magical item with unlimited energy good enough to fool machines
          Because it isn't ACTUALLY identical and doesn't have unlimited energy. Machines could probably detect differences between it and real ones if they were designed to, but why would that occur to anyone if imitation Chaos Emeralds didn't exist yet? It only has to imitate whatever unique property of the Emeralds the machine is detecting, and absolutely nothing more. Doesn't it even break when Sonic uses it? I don't recall.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, Sonic throws it into the cannon to stop it from firing on Sonic's world at the end of Hero Story.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why Sonic and Tails brought the real Emerald with them to the ARK
          To locate the rest of them
          >why Sonic and Tails brought Amy with them to the ARK
          They didn't want to bring her to space period, she would have went anyway chasing Sonic. Also the shuttle was probably fricked from them fricking around on the way there
          >Shadow and Rouge chasing Tails during the mid-game going absolutely fricking nowhere and just feeling like filler
          He had one of the emeralds, they didn't catch him
          >all the logistics of how Gerald set up this complicated ass master plan
          Shadow did it
          >how the frick did Gerald even record that video of him why would GUN just let him record that at his execution
          GUN recorded it
          >why GUN didn't FRICKING DO ANYTHING about anything he said in that video
          They were about to blow his head off and thought he was talking out of his ass
          >Tails jumping from a smart whiz kid to literally recreating a fake Chaos Emerald
          All he did was copy the frequency of the electromagnetic waves the emeralds give off, you do the same thing when you set two Wavebird controllers to the same number

          Just off the top of my head

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >why Eggman was so desperate to get the 7th Chaos Emerald when 6 was already enough to blow up half the moon and threaten the Earth with
          Shadow says it takes too long for the cannon to charge with only 6 emeralds.
          >why Rouge doesn't take the Emeralds from the Eclipse Cannon when Shadow leaves to go fight Sonic
          Shadow would track her down and kill her if he won. Besides her job was only to get info on project Shadow.
          >why Sonic and Tails brought the real Emerald with them to the ARK
          They don’t really have a safehouse to store it in.
          >why Sonic and Tails brought Amy with them to the ARK
          She follows them the entire story despite not being wanted by them.
          >Shadow and Rouge chasing Tails during the mid-game going absolutely fricking nowhere and just feeling like filler
          Fair enough.
          >all the logistics of how Gerald set up this complicated ass master plan
          He’s the smartest guy in the series. He created mini chaos 0s in his lab. He created life like a god. He makes Eggman look like a middle school dropout. If anyone could pull off that keikaku it’s Gerald.
          >how the frick did Gerald even record that video of him why would GUN just let him record that at his execution
          People are typically allowed to give last words before being executed.
          >why GUN didn't FRICKING DO ANYTHING about anything he said in that video, he was literally threatening the Earth and everyone there heard him
          They thought Gerald was a crazy schizo.
          >Tails jumping from a smart whiz kid who is good with machines in the Classics and SA1 to literally recreating a fake Chaos Emerald, a magical item with unlimited energy good enough to fool machines
          This was before the series went into complete character stagnation and characters were allowed to grow and develop.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Shadow would track her down and kill her if he won. Besides her job was only to get info on project Shadow
            The alternative is literally letting the Eclipse Cannon blow up the Earth. She would have been fricked either way so it would make more sense to at least try and take the option that would save billions of lives.
            >They don’t really have a safehouse to store it in.
            Literally just keeping it at Tails' Lab would have been a better alternative than bringing Eggman what he needed to succeed directly to him.
            >They thought Gerald was a crazy schizo
            And like you said, he was also the smartest person alive. So they at least should have tried to verify if any of his ramblings posed a real threat.
            >This was before the series went into complete character stagnation and characters were allowed to grow and develop
            I love Tails' development in SA1 and 2 but don't like him suddenly becoming Jimmy Neutron either. This was the start of writers taking advantage of Tails' intelligence to contrive whatever they wanted for the plot.

            The other points are fair though, especially the first one. I realize now the 24 hours isn't for the cannon to fire again but just for Eggman and Shadow's bluff on the Earth.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >This was the start of writers taking advantage of Tails' intelligence to contrive whatever they wanted for the plot.
              Not that I disagree but Eggman has it way worse going from pre-Colors to chaining and enslaving multiple other worlds to his space station and taking over the entire planet in Farces.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >taking over the entire planet in Farces
                He got Sonic and Shadow out of the picture during that time and those are his two biggest threats. It's kind of understandable he'd be able to take over the world in that scenario. Though the way Forces went about it was still extremely stupid and I'll never forgive making the most important plot element text on a black screen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >making the most important plot element text on a black screen.
                Not just that but immediately undercutting it in the following scene, just in case you thought the game might have stakes.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have that youtube video where the guy does an analysis on how bad the plot is for SA2, only for it to be a fake-out halfway through and he explains in depth on why it's good?

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How was Gerald able to mess with Shadow's head and turn him into a guy that wants to destroy the world if he got locked up?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The government wanted to keep developing shadow and the immortality project and only Gerald had the expertise to do so

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So the plot could happen

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I do feel like the plot of the game is too "convenient" half the time, just like DBZ which has just as bad of writing as SA2B does. Nothing ever felt like things could have happened despite of the characters on screen, they just slotted into moments that happened to happen then and there that just happen to have certain mcguffens to kept them from dying or failing the objectives at that exact time.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's most action stories (maybe even most stories) in general, but what saves it is the gameplay helps naturally keep the story's momentum. That's why I wasn't sold on IDW when people said it was "written like the games" and when I tried it, it proved what I feared which was that the stories on their own don't work as well without the gameplay backing them up. Ian's Archie worked better because there was a fleshed out world with a real history behind it so even if some plots played things fast and loose, it had more of a safety net of lore and continuity to fall back on. SA2 is great because even with the story's faults it capitalizes on what makes a video game plot enjoyable, the gameplay and cutscenes compliment each other in a harmonious way that only games can do so while neither is perfect they at least work well enough together to make the game's shortcomings easier to overlook. Not a lot of games can pull it off as well as SA2 does and not with the same energy the game was pumped with by its passionate dev team. I'm not that big on SA2 but I can respect what it does well and it's a pretty easy game to pick up for a quick session at least.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    apologize

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Frick Dulcy. Still the worst character in the entire franchise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        frick (YOU)

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go get domestically abused again.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This, literally serves no purpose. They already had a flying machine in season 1.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >They already had a flying machine in season 1.
          what? i don't remember that. you mean one of the hover units they stole? they can't keep those, anon, nor would making constant use of it be a good idea.
          >I wonder where Knothole is. Oh wait, look at that missing hover unit rising out of the trees over there.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Looking for a dragon taking off and landing seems to have the same flaw.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              the dragon can walk, is easier to maneuver around trees, and isn't as wide. easier to find parking for her too.
              seems better than having to park your stolen hover unit miles and miles away.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also, she probably doesn't have any trackers installed under her hood.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If Robotnik knew how to make trackers, Knothole would already have been fricked. He literally sends a fake Sally doppelganger whom the team brings back into Knothole but still doesn't know the coordinates by the end of the episode.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the only reason he didn't is because his systems fried right as he tried to roboticize Sally. Robotnik and Snivley literally discuss this.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's been a while since I saw the episode. But that's been bugging me. At least they address it then.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it cuts everything except the audio, so all they can do is listen in.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Freedom Stormer / Air Jalopy

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yeah i wonder what the advantage a creature that can take off from a standing start has over something that needs a runway

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would rather have seen it upgraded and improved to more resemble the Tornado over adding a fricking Dragon Tales reject to the cast.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This. Dulcy is thematically broken. Also her signature flying into a tree going "DUHHH WHY DA ROOM SPINNY?" was insulting even to a child.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >thematically broken
                because Sonic Team is so thematically consistent

                >They already knew how
                do they?

                lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >because Sonic Team is so thematically consistent
                I will be the last person to praise fricking Lost World. I hate that it feels like it lost Sonic's entire identity with those colorful whatzits as the antagonists. They're tacky and awful.

                There are themes and tones that pay off for Sonic. Adventure shounen is one that worked. A fat, ugly dragon did not.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                face it, there has not been a new Sonic character that looked like it belonged in the last 16 fricking years.
                Sonic's style has not been consistent in some time.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sage may not look like part of the main cast, but in terms of her role she is the last missing piece that the main cast needed, filling in for Snively and Agent Stone.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Robotnik's had so many helpers over the years, all with wildly different styles. she's just the latest.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                shes not just the latest, shes the best. If we could wipe out orbot, cubot, all the deadly six, infinite, and really anybody else between 06 and frontiers and just pickup with Sage, she would still work beautifully. Like anon above said shes that last missing piece of the cast (albeit we werent really missing anything, she just adds something fantastic) and fits perfectly by design. Eggman has not had a ton of helpers over the years, hes only ever had new goons to use. The closest he has ever had to having a number 2 is orbot and cubot, and they are incompatent idiots who do nothing aside from comic relief. Sage works perfectly as the sidkick/minion who Eggman can actually trust to do the things he wants her to do, and when she does them it isnt played off as some idiot being fooled by sonic.

                My only lamentation is that shes written by flynn so I dont trust where he will take her in the future.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Eggman has not had a ton of helpers over the years
                scratch
                grounder
                coconuts
                snively
                bocoe
                gocoe
                bokkun
                orbot
                cubot
                starline
                rough
                tumble
                stone

                and that's not counting the freelance mobians who sometimes help him like fang or rouge

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Most of them aren't helpers they get in the way more than they help

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                also, frick you, she's not ugly.
                look at those lips. imagine what she can do with them.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bro, that's garish. Big honking lips? A fricking nose ring? The fricking mohawk/fin thing? It is the ugliest "dragon" I've ever fricking seen, let alone the fricking ugliest Sonic character. There are so many things you should want to frick before ever turning that on Dulcy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she's a perfect angel

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would if she didn't act like a 6 year old. I fricking wish her design was the worst thing about her.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                she's an important member of the team and she's lovely

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If she couldn't bus people around she would be treated the same as Tails

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sage may not look like part of the main cast, but in terms of her role she is the last missing piece that the main cast needed, filling in for Snively and Agent Stone.

                I like Infinite's design. His problem is that he turned out to be a pathetic, nothing character.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Infinite is actually alright, his design is cool. The problems with his game are more about pacing, like the absolute nonsense they say happens offscreen.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Infinite is actually alright, his design is cool. The problems with his game are more about pacing, like the absolute nonsense they say happens offscreen.

                Forces should have been an actual SatAM game instead of Sonic Team trying to make it 'like' SatAM.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, instead we got absolute lazy, inappropriate miscasting of existing Sonic characters. After all, what says "leadership" like a loner last of his kind with a serious temper problem who guards a rock on some island and is dangerously gullible? Like, what the frick were they thinking there?

                Sega put zero effort into what should have been the most story-centric entry in years.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                can you imagine if SoJ and SoA didn't hate each other and actually came together for Sonic?
                truly, this is the most cursed timeline.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The good timeline doesn't have any porn of Surge or Cream, I checked.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lost World
                >not story-centric

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ignoring that I said MOST story-centric, Lost World barely had a story. It just had a dumb D-tier villain squad in a generic usurping of Eggman (which didn't even need to happen, you're still fighting badniks all game long) just to activate some generic doomsday weapon, and what few cast actually show up (Tails, and to a much lesser degree Amy and Knuckles) none does anything of consequence.

                It is the most paint-by-numbers Sonic game there is plotwise, minus how un-Sonic-like the villains look. But hey, I can at least fap to Zeena.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But hey, I can at least fap to Zeena.
                Which is more than Forces or 3D Blast gave us

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The lore of that game is so bad it wraps back around and becomes useful again. You could take a shit on a script, say it helps explain some plot hole from Forces, and it would be such an improvement that no one would mind or care.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >pathetic
                He soloes Sonic and levels cities

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dulcy was painfully unfunny and Antoine became just as bad in season 2. The way shatamgays shill the show you would think only season 1 existed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Doesn’t matter, all these other dragons are better

      2024 is the year of the dragon btw

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >disparages Dulcy
        >posts that Scottish terrier faced Falcor
        opinion discarded

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          HADOUKEN

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >playing a MMX after 3
            oh you poor child

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              6 is literally the best game in classic, X, and BN.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the formula was as played then as it was when MM6 released.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Megaman games should never change. Sonic shouldn't have either but it's too late for that.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    people worship this game now. it hasn’t been underrated since like 2018, the youtube video essay tide turned to like it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Opinions on Sonic games flip every 10 years. In 2028, people will hate on it again.

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Japanese > RCS Frontiers > Griffith after 06 > Drummond > Burke > RCS in Boom > Griffith in X > Griffith in 05 and 06 > RCS Colors era > Sonic's single line in CD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think Drummond had a high enough pitch and a strangely fitting nasally voice that somewhat mimics JP Sonic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which is funny because in the interview panel he talks about being a baritone, plus despite being the more upbeat voice while Griffith pulls off introspective Sonic better, the VAs themselves seem like the opposite of that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I like RCS in Frontiers but he isn't THAT good. I still prefer Drummond or Unleashed/Black Knight Griffith

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Platinum hunter and Sonic autist here, yay or nay on -
    Forces
    Lost World
    4 episodes 1 and 2
    Origins
    Superstars

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Origins if you don't play PC and have easy access to the fan-tweaked decomps, Superstars maybe if you really need to scratch that classic itch. The rest, no.

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Adult people obsessing over some random cartoon story for 6 year olds is so cringe it’s funny and sad at the same time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I honestly think it's really funny just how earnest the story is despite being so fricking stupid, and it still somehow manages to spit out kino scenes, like the beginning of Sonic and Shadow's boss fight.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >implying any other games, movies, tv shows or books in last 25 years have a better story

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    “Rouge and Amy would clutter Sonic 3 and make it lose its focus!”

    This movie has an 80% chance of having some unfunny human B-plot starring Wade or Rachel that takes a chunk of screentime but oh no, more Sonic characters in the Sonic film is apparently too much.

    I understand if it’s an animation budget issue but people can’t seriously be convinced that two major characters that played important roles in a game the movie’s literally based on will somehow hold it back.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I understand if it’s an autism issue but people can’t seriously be convinced that two major characters that got replaced by Chris in X will somehow be needed in the third movie.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >got replaced by Chris
        then why are they still in X?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Marketing purposes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            well, if they want there to be a Sonic 4, they might want to put them in.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kek nah I can't think of any time they were completely necessary to any Sonic game in a way that movie adaptations can't account for. CD can just have Metal capture Tails and neither Heroes nor 06 need to be adapted directly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >CD can just have Metal capture Tails
                Amy predates Tails.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Not in the movies so I don't really understand your point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not in the movies
                are you even the anon i'm replying to or are you just schizophrenic?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The discussion was about the movies not needing every character for its game adaptations, what are you having trouble understanding?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what are you having trouble understanding?
                the part where you brought up CD, i responded, and then you said you don't care about CD.
                are the voices in your head very loud, anon?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Let me break it down so your little pea brain can grasp the extremely straightforward exchange that went down:
                >the movie's adaptations of events don't need to be 1:1 with the games because of how different they already are, you could even replace Amy's role in CD with Tails and lose nothing by excluding her
                >Amy was introduced before Tails
                >she was not introduced before Tails in the movies, therefore your point is moot
                I hope that clears some things up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >could even replace Amy's role in CD with Tails
                now let me break it down for you, again.
                Tails did not exist at that point.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So what? Little Planet appears, Tails is already following Sonic, Metal captures Tails. Was that really so hard for you to put together? Amy is that easily replaced, the only time she was useful in a way that hasn't been replaceable yet is in 06 which almost no one wants to think about because it has to do with Silver and Blazegays make sure to ruin any discussion about him.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Little Planet appears, Tails is
                non-existent

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >she was not introduced before Tails in the movies
                so then why are you even bringing CD up in the first place, if it has no bearing, my little anemone?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you not remember how that was her debut game? Ideally a movie that involves her would be about CD's events, but since she literally does nothing useful in the whole game you could easily swap her out for Tails and lose nothing. That was the point, to prove that Rouge and Amy aren't important enough to consider them as must-haves in the movies.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Do you not remember how that was her debut game?
                do you care about the games or the movie, in this context?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was originally responding to
                >well, if they want there to be a Sonic 4 (movie), they might want to put them (Amy and Rouge) in.
                and I was arguing that the two have never done anything substantial enough that they're as relevant to any potential future movie's adaptation of a game (except maybe 06, which I conceded) as more important characters like Sonic, Eggman, Tails, Knuckles, and Shadow.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >and I was arguing that the two have never done anything substantial
                an i'm arguing that they are fan favorites. their exclusion might sour their perspective audience.
                ...are you going to argue that Amy and Rouge are not in fact popular?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Endless human OCs and israeli propaganda might sour perspective audiences, I'm an optimist but I'm being a realist about how little Sonic representation to expect out of these things. I would have almost no precedent for my argument either if X didn't already have a penchant for replacing characters' roles with Chris, proving that they "aren't necessary."

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                two points:
                1, people hated the Knuckles show for the lack of focus on Knuckles, the titular character of the show.
                2, Chris Thorndyke is INFAMOUSLY hated.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not denying that, I'm just not expecting more out of Paramount Sonic than it's shown us so far. Bare minimum actual Sonic characters and extremely loose adaptations of the games' stories and story elements.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                and i guess we'll see if that's enough to keep things going.
                i imagine there is going to be some disappointment from fans at the exclusion of these two characters, who have gigantic popularity, and who were present during the events this movie is going to be loosely based on.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't think the movies will get particularly desperate enough to introduce characters they don't absolutely need to until they lose Carrey for real.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                two points:
                1, people hated the Knuckles show for the lack of focus on Knuckles, the titular character of the show.
                2, Chris Thorndyke is INFAMOUSLY hated.

                to continue.
                anon, you're literally saying
                >Why bring back Deanna Troi for the next Star Trek movie? Wesley has proven himself to be a very capable crew member.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know Trek but it's more like "why would they use Troi for the role she had in the games when they used Wesley for it in Star Trek X? in the movies they can just have Spock do it since he's already a character and loosely fits some of the criteria that the situation requires."

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >"why would they use Troi for the role she had in the games when they used Wesley
                and the answer is, because people really fricking hated Wesley and thought Troi was hot.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People think Rouge is hot and from what I remember that was the reason they excluded her from the movie.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                let's see if that costs them

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thread's making me want to replay SA2 for the first time in years.
    What's the best way these days? Any modern ports that aren't fricked?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The PC port is fine. It also has some good mods, with some cool enhancements for Chao's especially.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    gee, it's almost as if Sonic fans expect to see Sonic characters that have been established for the past 31 years.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You guys hate the characters though, you always complain about them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I didn't realize how much worse it could get

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God no, modern Sonic is so safe and corporate it makes Sonic X look daring. Fricking Mario has less arbitrary mandates than this "radical" franchise does today, and as an OGgay it pains me to see morons still obsess over this franchise.

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