nintendo won't pay a cent to win it because their fans will defend them for free no matter what. those prizes are paid for and they would rather pocket the money.
>game I don't like wins
PAID >game I like wins
YESS LET'S FUCKING GO BROS
All those awars are paid, it is well known. Do you also think oscars are given to true good movies and actors? they pay to get them, that's why people don't watch them anymore.
nintendo won't pay a cent to win it because their fans will defend them for free no matter what. those prizes are paid for and they would rather pocket the money.
>would be well deserved
No it wouldn't, it'd be highway robbery and basically announcing low effort cashcow milking shovelware is okay just because it's nintendo.
What else would deserve it?
BG3?
Fucking starfield?
Pikmin?
Give me a break
As a "video game", it's fine. It's not really that amazing especially if you don't care for tabletop DnD style gameplay, but from a cultural impact standpoint it blows everything else away and it's not even close.
don't take peoples opinions, watch some gameplay, it's fun and challenging
i watched some of this guy and it made me buy it, i was with fud team gay bear sex anti bg3 posters before watching and playing it for myself
for me it's 9/10 easy at least so far im about enter act 3 i think
they need to fix karlach best girl ending before i play more and give it 10/10
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>watch some gameplay
I'd rather just play it.
Gonna pick it up on PS5 some time next week I think, just been busy with other vidya.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they need to fix karlach best girl ending
Pretty sure they did that in the latest update.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Calm down shilling coomer fag. It sucks. I wasted a days worth of scratch on that steaming pile of garbage. Keep bashing your head on bouldergay, you’ve already got brain damage so what’s a little more.
It's a solid 8/10 that can become a 9/10 with updates.
The first act is pure kino 10/10
The second act is good 8/10
The third act is a broken piece of shit 6/10
>totk already long forgotten about, died within a matter of weeks >bg3 still heavily discussed with huge player numbers
Falseflagging way too hard. It needs to have a shred of truth to it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't give a shit about schizo homosexuals screeching on mongolian basket weaving forums. TotK outsold bg3 by literal fuckloads of millions and will be fondly remember for generations, whereas bg3 virgins will probably die by the end of the year choking themselves with a belt while jacking off to furry bear porn
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That's better, now you sound like a proper raving fanboy and not a falseflagger.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Thanks anon, you're alright. Don't go to baldurs gate tomorrow
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
bg3 only just came out, I'd wait until october before making the call on if it has longevity, although honestly it's highly unusual for any singleplayer game to have people talking about them for over a month unless there's continuous updates for it. The nearly 6 years of BotW threads did not feel natural at all, and were full of shitposts.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
TotK still gets multiple seethe threads daily
It's botw all over again, every day for seven more years
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if I make multiple seethe threads daily I can say it gets multiple seethe threads daily >haha gottem
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I watch Countless posts on social media to this day on totk
>would be well deserved
No it wouldn't, it'd be highway robbery and basically announcing low effort cashcow milking shovelware is okay just because it's nintendo.
NTA but how can you enjoy BotW yet hate TotK?
I don't get that, memes aside about "lol TotK is just DLC lmao" they absolutely are similar games and that's undeniable.
Because if you've done BOTW to death and after 6 years of waiting Nintendo tells you "do it again, but with a shitty car/hoverbike"
Identical game structure, shitty shrines again, awful "dungeons", identical combay, right down to the worst aspects of it like healing in a pause menu and just stunlocking HP sponge enemies.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So you're telling me that you enjoyed BotW, and a game that can be summarised as "BotW remix with way more stuff" is now awful to you?
Alright then. I don't get it, but sure I guess you're entitled to your own opinions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
everything is relative retard. For $70 it absolutely sucks for being basically a DLC as everyone rightfully claims. It shouldn't have been a separate game to begin with.
They are similar on the surface but that's only a shallow similarity. The best part of BotW was the exploration and sense of discovery. They reused the map in TotK so none of that exists. Also the shrines absolutely suck balls in this one. They weren't perfect in BotW but the point of a sequel should be improving on the original game, that doesn't happen and are a step back. TotK is just a building simulator in the BotW map, that's it. If you're not an autistic Minecraft sperg then there's no value in this game at all.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>They reused the map in TotK so none of that exists
I disagree, I found TotK more engaging to explore since, unlike BotW, I'd actually find caves and hidden temples with more challenging enemies/minibosses dotted around. For me, TotK dropped the ball with The Depths though.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>TotK is just a building simulator in the BotW map, that's it. If you're not an autistic Minecraft sperg then there's no value in this game at all.
This.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>belittling minecraft autists as if they weren't Ganker incarnate
where do you think minecraft got its initial popularity from?
Because it's the same shit after 6 years for $70 that fixed nothing while a lot of aspects are outright worse somehow. What's disgusting is people outright admitted to being afraid to be honest about this game and withheld criticism until after the, very brief, honeymoon period. That's not healthy.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>people outright admitted to being afraid to be honest about this game and withheld criticism
such as?
As someone who has the same sentiment, a lot of reasons >The main quest is SO much worse. Doing The Great Plateau for about half an hour and getting the paraglider is fun. Doing the great sky islands for 2 hours and then running around doing stupid errands for Purah for half an hour to get the paraglider isn't fun >pacing is way worse. There's like 25 shrines with horribly slow, unskippable tutorial text >the caves and the underground are tremendously boring and ugly, and yet it's where the overwhelming majority of the "new" content is. Elden ring had crazy shit in its underworld like a blood palace, ghost minotaur rivers, a pink rot lake, cum waterfalls, etc. TOTK's underworld is at least twice the size but just sticks to two biomes, regular and lava unless grey sand is totally different from grey rocks or grey mushrooms >TOTK has the single dumbest story conceivable >the partner system outright does not function most of the time while the Sage powers in BOTW was so simple and seamless >weapon fusing is horrible, now you have to open the rune menu, drop an item, and fuse it to make your new weapon any good when BOTW simply let you just grab the fucking weapon >Arrow fusing is beyond unacceptable in its current state, genuinely what were they thinking >I don't remember BOTW quests being great but TOTK quests are absolutely horrible >Fuck the korok escorts. Genuinely, FUCK THEM >All of the shrines and towers where in convenient and sensible spots that took the world design in account in BOTW, while in TOTK they're just thrown about randomly so it's not the same again. As a result, most fast travel points are really inconvenient >Guardians are way more fun mechanically then Gloom hands, Gloom hands despawn if you so much as climb a small rock while guardians were persistent fuckers >Material grind is at a level that makes Terraria blush
There's more but you get the point. BOTW > TOTK and I don't even like BOTW much
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This, but the opposite of everything you just said
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Agree that the opening of TotK is far worse, however its ending is undeniably far better than BotW's - both in terms of spectacle and gameplay.
I somewhat agree that the pacing is worse, you example is stupid though - plenty of shrines in BotW had you sitting and waiting for the elevator to rise up for the test of strength mini-guardians. Pacing in shirines for both games is poor, at least in TotK they load much faster (moot point if you emulate both games mind you)
I agree The Depths are boring, I don't agree on caves. I found the caves generally satisfying to discover and many of them had things I didn't expect - like little puzzles or sidequests tied to them.
I didn't like the story of either game.
Agree that the partners are worse than the champion powers, although I typically had them all turned off in both games aside from Revalis Gale & Tulin's Wind respectively.
Agree that fusing mechanic is fucked.
Disagree on TotK quests, the sidequests are a significant improvement from BotW's. Some of them are really good, it is a mixed bag overall though.
I unironically enjoyed the korok escorts and would come up with increasingly dumb ways to solve it. Same with the signs puzzle.
I don't agree with the shrines/towers and genuinely have no idea why you would have a gripe with their distribution to begin with, like what?
I don't agree with you on Guardians, they are much easier than Gloom Hands/Phantom Ganon. Guardiands are complete pushovers in BotW once you know how2parry.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The ending is the only thing I can't comment on, I played for 100 hours and saw I wasn't even close to getting every shrine and so I've just taken an extended break, pretty sure in BOTW I was able to get every shrine by that point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The ending is not any better, it's the same thing, only I actually prefer calamity ganon's silence over ganondorf saying stupid shit and confirming he has no real reason for doing anything other than he's a huge photophobe. Spectacle is used in place of saying the fight sucks as well. Both dragon and boar ganon's are "spectacles" and their fights are some of the worst final bosses ever, nothing hype about them once that initial scale of them wears off after a few seconds and you realize all it really is as they sit motionless waiting for you to fuck them up.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Spectacle is used in place of saying the fight sucks as well.
No, I said the spectacle AND gameplay are far better in TotK and I meant it. I don't want to spoil it for anon since he hasn't reached the ending in TotK, but BotW's final boss a literally static beast ganon and a cutscene where Zelda simply smiles and says something autistic as usual. TotK's is far better, it PLAYS better as you aren't """fighting""" a static object this time, and it bookends the game in a satisfying way. Music is great too.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
He's already said he thinks the story is the single dumbest thing conceivable so I doubt he cares about spoilers. Besides, there's nothing to spoil, ganondorf literally doesn't have a reason for doing anything, he's just evil because evil, and zelda magically turns back despite establishing it was permanent is just a wtf copout moment and cowardice over committing. The longer the story goes on the worse it gets so I'm not going to get his hopes up for that. >BotW's final boss a literally static beast ganon
Draganon is literally the same thing. They both don't even try to hit you while sitting there motionless waiting for you to hit them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>spoils everything anyway
Fuck you gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Doing him a favor. I'm sure he's already well aware anyway.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>he's just evil because evil
I have no problem with this, it's exactly what I expect out of Ganondorf, Wind Waker is the exception. Even OoT dorf people read more into than what's actually presented to you. You do get to see some of his cunning shine through the memories as well, I think it's fine as he is. > zelda magically turns back
I have mixed opinions on this. I would've liked if she didn't turn back as it could've been a more poignant ending that way, however I really liked the way they executed saving her and how it calls back to her fall at the start of the game with the fantastic score playing during it. Regardless of how you feel about it plot-wise, it is absolutely a stronger way to end than BotW's entire ending sequence. >Draganon is literally the same thing.
Pure bullshit.
It actually attacks back, spewing the mist stuff at you and it does dart towards you if you glide too close. Is it a difficult fight? No, but it's miles better than beast ganon it's not even funny. Plus, this is phase 3 after a minigauntlet of fights that come beforehand. If anon hasn't beaten the game then he more than likely hasn't explored anywhere to do with Hyrule Castle yet either, or Hyrule Castle's Depths where the buildup to the ending actually is
Doing him a favor. I'm sure he's already well aware anyway.
It's just a dick move.
Literally no reason to do that when he explicitly tells you he hasn't beaten the game yet.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Literally no reason to do that when he explicitly tells you he hasn't beaten the game yet
He wouldn't be in here talking about the story and saying it's the dumbest thing conceivable if he cared about spoilers. It's not a dick move when other anons are trying to convince him this that it gets better. It doesn't, and going in with an expectation that it will just creates more disappointment.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know why you keep harking on about the story/narrative when it's the presentation and gameplay of it all that I repeatedly said impressed me most in comparison to BotW's weak ending.
The narrative of both games is weak, didn't care much for either.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I don't know why you keep harking on about the story/narrative
Because we we're talking about spoilers. Zelda turning back and ganondorf being braindead evil has nothing to do with presentation and gameplay.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What are you on about?
Since when does spoilers = story elements only?
You can spoil gameplay elements too.
I don't understand why you kept jumping to 'muh story' when I was barely talking about the story in any of my posts as opposed to the overall ending sequence. The story sucks, end of.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
> when I was barely talking about the story in any of my posts
Because me and that other anon were talking about the story.
And even then the only thing I spoiled was draganon being another terrible final boss. Still serves the same purpose of reigning in expectations and preventing disappointment from someone who was clearly disillusioned with the game and didn't need to fall into a trap of being told the ending would be any better.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>and that other anon were talking about the story.
Was he, though? > draganon being another terrible final boss
it is unironically one of the stronger final bosses of the series. The series isn't exactly known for challenging final fights. Still leagues better than BotW's beastganon. >fall into a trap of being told the ending would be any better.
I hate to appeal to majority here, but there is more than one anon ITT saying that the ending was good or praising the ending sequence specifically. I find it so unusual that you seem to think TotK's ending is as bad (or worse?) than BotW's ending, that just completely baffles me. BotW ends like a wet fart by comparison.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't like either endings. I'm not trying to say botw had a good ending. I'm only saying totk's ending has some serious issues and is nothing to look forward to, especially to someone who said what they've seen so far is awful, because saying it's far better than botw's will set up expectations that will disappoint them.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I can't see how anyone could dislike TotK's ending, genuinely.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You like marvel movies, you'll probably like totk's ending
You dislike marvel moves, you probably won't
Just a matter of thinking about what you're experiencing. If you put a little thought into it and it starts falling apart it's an issue. You go into like you're just watching fireworks, then no problem.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA, but I know some people hated the fact that zelda was cured and turned back to a hylian. They argued that the whole dragon subplot was a massive waste because it lacked any lasting concequences. which I think is just absurd. Just because an arc ends with someone overcoming a 'bad' choice doesn't nullify the concequences the faced up to that point.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>spoiler
I can kind of understand that (I mentioned it too before that I was on the fence about how it wrapped up that plotpoint) - but I was more talking about the buildup, final boss, and spectacle of its ending as per the previous posts.
You like marvel movies, you'll probably like totk's ending
You dislike marvel moves, you probably won't
Just a matter of thinking about what you're experiencing. If you put a little thought into it and it starts falling apart it's an issue. You go into like you're just watching fireworks, then no problem.
I do not at all like marvel movies, the fuck is this post?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Replace marvel with any shallow media and it's the same thing. Replace it with the mario movie if you want, that's an even better example.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You could at least elaborate on what you actually meant by the post instead of doubling-down on Ganker references. Is your complaint about the narrative (again) or what?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
What I meant is obvious when I elaborated on it past the first two sentences. If you're not thinking about what you're experiencing then you'll just swallow what you're fed wholesale and clap over things like zelda turning back. If you think at all about what you're watching you'll immediately question things like that and it takes you right out of it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're just being silly, I already said I enjoyed the ending sequence for the gameplay and spectacle of it (specifically, the music score is great), but I have mixed feeling about the zelda's character arc resolution which I mentioned in an earlier post. That doesn't make it a "dude just switch your brain off and enjoy it" moment as you're implying. Feels to me like you're looking for any excuse to say it's bad without having to actually articulate any means of how you felt about the ending.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Zelda turning back was an example, I don't care to elaborate on everything, we'd be here forever. Endings like totk's are totally unearned, it's pure spectacle with zero weight or meaning behind it and in this case a last second asspull deus ex machina on top of that. It is very much turn your brain off, don't question it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>with zero weight or meaning behind it
See, this I disagree with. I'm not going to pretend the narrative is deep (nor do I believe it's trying to be deep), however there's a clear symbolic parrellel between the ending and the beginning of the game, and I'd go as far as to say that TotK as a whole has a motif of togetherness that is frequently symbolized by the clasping of hands. It works just fine as an ending, serves it purpose and (again) the music is fantastic during it which elevates the whole thing. The failure of it is that the game doesn't preestablish that she could turn back into Hylian form, it instead clearly states the opposite numerous times: from the narrative view, it's weak. Weak narrative point aside, it does not ruin the ending overall for me. I just wish they came up with a more satisfying way to tie off her character arc.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
It is when it's a totally unearned asspull at the last moment that they had built up as a permanent consequence and sacrifice. The story is full of this kind of bullshit.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Ok I won't spoil the final battle etc. then, even though you probably already got spoiled on a few things anyway.
Why are you grinding out every shrine?
Do the sidequests if anything, there's some pretty good ones imo. TotK suffers from bloat in a way that BotW didn't (since ngl BotW was a lot emptier), you're unironically better off skipping the things you don't enjoy. For example, I don't think anybody in the right mind would fill out The Depths map, it's pointless busywork even if the game seemingly wants you to get all the lightroots.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nta but I did every shrine and almost every side quests in both botw and totk on my first run of each
Btow took me 90 hours, totk took me 160
I much prefer totk all things considered, the caves were so good and actually gave the world density that it lacked before. The shrines, while being more sterile, were still fun. The building mechanic made traversal entertaining, and the problem solving it introduced was cool (I also loved nuts and bolts). Temples were a flat out upgrade over the fucking divine beasts, with the lightning temple being what I wished all others were. Water temple sucked, however.
For the story it sits equal to botw for me, but the ending sequence was so fucking good I can't belive anyone who actually shit talks that part in particular. The one thing botw did better that I wish totk expanded upon were the picture quests for the memories. Looking at the world and trying to figure out where the picture was taken was a highlight for me and I was sad to see that go.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I unironically enjoyed the korok escorts and would come up with increasingly dumb ways to solve it. Same with the signs puzzle.
>that korok escort quest in the snow where his friend is at the bottom of the slope
The devs knew
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This plus TotK did nothing to fix any of my problems with BotW outside of more enemies.
I did like the sky regions though. Felt like the sky SS should have had.
>150 shrines with garbage filler content >80 instances of the sign guy >50 wells to find with a chest/plants/salt inside >100 caves with a frog inside every time >same camps with enemies dotted everywhere >1000 korok seeds >Depths are just reskinned enemies and zonaite farming >Sky Islands all have the same green crystal puzzle or flying through rings >MMO style farming for costume upgrade mats so you won't get oneshot
TOTK is the literal textbook definition of 6/10 Ubislop were the same 5-6 things are stamped around a map 100+ times with no progression in difficulty.
And the kicker is, they had 6 years to rethink the formula or at least tweak it and it's 90% the same core structure with a new gimmick meant for the roblox audience.
better than botw >bg3
china slop with a million bugs that people only like because it has sex omg so pog sex >starfield
fallout 4 and its consequences have been a disaster for bethesda >ac6
it's good but not goty worthy
Take the best game of all time. Improve on it in every single way.
Expand the world.
Better main quests.
Better side quests.
Better content.
Better dungeons.
Better shrines.
Better rewards.
Better enemy variety.
Better boss battles.
Better music.
Better combat.
Better exploration.
Better abilities.
Wrap it all with a level of polish and technical wizardy which baffles and stuns the entire gaming industry.
I think we can all agree video games have now peaked.
Even if someone loved Botw it's plain to see that Totk is a "Deluxe edition" of it's predecessor. It receiving so much praise baffles me because people are ignoring how bad of a precedence it sets. If companies learn they too can re-release a game with a little bit of extra content and charge MORE money than the original and get 10/10's for it they absolutely will. It will be the end of good games as we know it. Say hello to yearly goyslop.
>a little bit of extra content >a little bit
extremely disingenuous. Even if you don't like what's there, it still has significantly more content and I say that as someone that preferred BotW overall for being more cohesive.
They literally re-used the map wholesale, and with a 6 year long development time and they only added:
>extremely sparse repetitive sky islands with copy pasted enemies and "get the crystal" shrine "puzzles". >the underground which is literally just 1 biome copy pasted over and over to cover the whole map which only serves the purpose of a farming location for zonaite and poe souls, (and 1 questline, the Yiga quest, which isn't underground specific, it could have gone anywhere)
the main story and dungeons, which I give credit, is decent but for the insane head start they had with the whole map and physics system already existing it's insane how this is all they could come up with. It's not a trash game but it's highly disappointing and this level of blatant reuse and copy pasted shouldn't be encouraged.
Except those are not the "only" things added. I agree The Depths are lame but you can still easily spend 100 hours in the game while barely ever touching them. For me, the new caves and mucher larger/better variety of quests are the key highlights - both things BotW sorely lacked.
It's beyond bad. Six years is a REALLY long time in the scale of video games, that's often an entire console generation. Someone who played BOTW in middle school could very well be old enough to post on Ganker without breaking any rules. It felt like Majora's mask did more new and unique in 18 months than TOTK did.
if you ignore that it's just an extension of botw it would win goty. i never played botw that much, and for the small amount i did it wasn't memorable enough to leave an impression on me when going into totk, so it's definitely an experience.
I enjoyed both but clearly BG3 is the more unique experience. TotK is basically BotW+. Even Majora's Mask felt more unique in comparison to OoT and it came out only two years after where TotK came out 6 years after BotW.
Paid reviews
>game I don't like wins
PAID
>game I like wins
YESS LET'S FUCKING GO BROS
All those awars are paid, it is well known. Do you also think oscars are given to true good movies and actors? they pay to get them, that's why people don't watch them anymore.
VGA's aren't paid for per se, however the vote is conducted by a select group of journos whose nepotism is clear.
You have to pay a sub to be eligible, retard.
>game I like
honestly nintendo ate
Honestly, you’re a gay. Nintendo ate what? Use normal terminology when describing something or have a nice day. Fucking zoomer ledditors.
>honestly nintendo ate
WIG!
nintendo won't pay a cent to win it because their fans will defend them for free no matter what. those prizes are paid for and they would rather pocket the money.
would be well deserved, but sadly it doesn't meet ESG expectations so I wouldn't count on it.
>would be well deserved
Anon i hate ESG gayry as much as the next person but do you you sinerly believe that?
What else would deserve it?
BG3?
Fucking starfield?
Pikmin?
Give me a break
It's going to be BG3.
And you'll be left coping and seething with your forgettable $70 dlc, tendie subhumans.
is BG3 actually that good?
my brother had mixed feelings on it after beating it
He probably got cucked.
BG3 is not good but covers the ESGH quota the best of all titles this year
As a "video game", it's fine. It's not really that amazing especially if you don't care for tabletop DnD style gameplay, but from a cultural impact standpoint it blows everything else away and it's not even close.
don't take peoples opinions, watch some gameplay, it's fun and challenging
i watched some of this guy and it made me buy it, i was with fud team gay bear sex anti bg3 posters before watching and playing it for myself
for me it's 9/10 easy at least so far im about enter act 3 i think
they need to fix karlach best girl ending before i play more and give it 10/10
>watch some gameplay
I'd rather just play it.
Gonna pick it up on PS5 some time next week I think, just been busy with other vidya.
>they need to fix karlach best girl ending
Pretty sure they did that in the latest update.
Calm down shilling coomer fag. It sucks. I wasted a days worth of scratch on that steaming pile of garbage. Keep bashing your head on bouldergay, you’ve already got brain damage so what’s a little more.
>pic related
You.
It's a solid 8/10 that can become a 9/10 with updates.
The first act is pure kino 10/10
The second act is good 8/10
The third act is a broken piece of shit 6/10
Jokes on you, TotK will be remembered forever unlike flavour of the homosexual month BG3
You mean the game that will keep getting content and mods unlike your rehashed tendie slop?
Can't improve on perfection. Enjoy your ESG slop
Yeah it'll be remembered as a "oh wait, that happened, LMAO"
>totk already long forgotten about, died within a matter of weeks
>bg3 still heavily discussed with huge player numbers
Falseflagging way too hard. It needs to have a shred of truth to it.
I don't give a shit about schizo homosexuals screeching on mongolian basket weaving forums. TotK outsold bg3 by literal fuckloads of millions and will be fondly remember for generations, whereas bg3 virgins will probably die by the end of the year choking themselves with a belt while jacking off to furry bear porn
That's better, now you sound like a proper raving fanboy and not a falseflagger.
Thanks anon, you're alright. Don't go to baldurs gate tomorrow
bg3 only just came out, I'd wait until october before making the call on if it has longevity, although honestly it's highly unusual for any singleplayer game to have people talking about them for over a month unless there's continuous updates for it. The nearly 6 years of BotW threads did not feel natural at all, and were full of shitposts.
TotK still gets multiple seethe threads daily
It's botw all over again, every day for seven more years
>if I make multiple seethe threads daily I can say it gets multiple seethe threads daily
>haha gottem
I watch Countless posts on social media to this day on totk
Yeah it's a solid 8/10, enjoyed my time playing it.
>would be well deserved
No it wouldn't, it'd be highway robbery and basically announcing low effort cashcow milking shovelware is okay just because it's nintendo.
>muh ESG
Don't click this link, anon.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/csr/en/index.html
>RE4R is out of the running because its a remake
>copy paste zelda sequel is eligible though
explain how this makes sense?
>Dlc wins GOTY
Gaming is dead
This game sucks balls though even if you consider it DLC. BotW was way better.
You wish, that game STUNK. Literally just a DLC
None of you have ever played Tears of the Kingdom or even own a Switch. You're just edgy contrarians.
Suck me from the back. This game sucks.
You don't matter, he is gonna claim you have a ps5 hidden there somewhere
>buys games he hates just to be le epic cool on Ganker
Yeah because I knew I would hate it when I bought it even though I enjoyed BotW you dumb fuck.
NTA but how can you enjoy BotW yet hate TotK?
I don't get that, memes aside about "lol TotK is just DLC lmao" they absolutely are similar games and that's undeniable.
Because if you've done BOTW to death and after 6 years of waiting Nintendo tells you "do it again, but with a shitty car/hoverbike"
Identical game structure, shitty shrines again, awful "dungeons", identical combay, right down to the worst aspects of it like healing in a pause menu and just stunlocking HP sponge enemies.
So you're telling me that you enjoyed BotW, and a game that can be summarised as "BotW remix with way more stuff" is now awful to you?
Alright then. I don't get it, but sure I guess you're entitled to your own opinions.
everything is relative retard. For $70 it absolutely sucks for being basically a DLC as everyone rightfully claims. It shouldn't have been a separate game to begin with.
They are similar on the surface but that's only a shallow similarity. The best part of BotW was the exploration and sense of discovery. They reused the map in TotK so none of that exists. Also the shrines absolutely suck balls in this one. They weren't perfect in BotW but the point of a sequel should be improving on the original game, that doesn't happen and are a step back. TotK is just a building simulator in the BotW map, that's it. If you're not an autistic Minecraft sperg then there's no value in this game at all.
>They reused the map in TotK so none of that exists
I disagree, I found TotK more engaging to explore since, unlike BotW, I'd actually find caves and hidden temples with more challenging enemies/minibosses dotted around. For me, TotK dropped the ball with The Depths though.
>TotK is just a building simulator in the BotW map, that's it. If you're not an autistic Minecraft sperg then there's no value in this game at all.
This.
>belittling minecraft autists as if they weren't Ganker incarnate
where do you think minecraft got its initial popularity from?
Because it's the same shit after 6 years for $70 that fixed nothing while a lot of aspects are outright worse somehow. What's disgusting is people outright admitted to being afraid to be honest about this game and withheld criticism until after the, very brief, honeymoon period. That's not healthy.
>people outright admitted to being afraid to be honest about this game and withheld criticism
such as?
Are these people in the room with us right now?
As someone who has the same sentiment, a lot of reasons
>The main quest is SO much worse. Doing The Great Plateau for about half an hour and getting the paraglider is fun. Doing the great sky islands for 2 hours and then running around doing stupid errands for Purah for half an hour to get the paraglider isn't fun
>pacing is way worse. There's like 25 shrines with horribly slow, unskippable tutorial text
>the caves and the underground are tremendously boring and ugly, and yet it's where the overwhelming majority of the "new" content is. Elden ring had crazy shit in its underworld like a blood palace, ghost minotaur rivers, a pink rot lake, cum waterfalls, etc. TOTK's underworld is at least twice the size but just sticks to two biomes, regular and lava unless grey sand is totally different from grey rocks or grey mushrooms
>TOTK has the single dumbest story conceivable
>the partner system outright does not function most of the time while the Sage powers in BOTW was so simple and seamless
>weapon fusing is horrible, now you have to open the rune menu, drop an item, and fuse it to make your new weapon any good when BOTW simply let you just grab the fucking weapon
>Arrow fusing is beyond unacceptable in its current state, genuinely what were they thinking
>I don't remember BOTW quests being great but TOTK quests are absolutely horrible
>Fuck the korok escorts. Genuinely, FUCK THEM
>All of the shrines and towers where in convenient and sensible spots that took the world design in account in BOTW, while in TOTK they're just thrown about randomly so it's not the same again. As a result, most fast travel points are really inconvenient
>Guardians are way more fun mechanically then Gloom hands, Gloom hands despawn if you so much as climb a small rock while guardians were persistent fuckers
>Material grind is at a level that makes Terraria blush
There's more but you get the point. BOTW > TOTK and I don't even like BOTW much
This, but the opposite of everything you just said
Agree that the opening of TotK is far worse, however its ending is undeniably far better than BotW's - both in terms of spectacle and gameplay.
I somewhat agree that the pacing is worse, you example is stupid though - plenty of shrines in BotW had you sitting and waiting for the elevator to rise up for the test of strength mini-guardians. Pacing in shirines for both games is poor, at least in TotK they load much faster (moot point if you emulate both games mind you)
I agree The Depths are boring, I don't agree on caves. I found the caves generally satisfying to discover and many of them had things I didn't expect - like little puzzles or sidequests tied to them.
I didn't like the story of either game.
Agree that the partners are worse than the champion powers, although I typically had them all turned off in both games aside from Revalis Gale & Tulin's Wind respectively.
Agree that fusing mechanic is fucked.
Disagree on TotK quests, the sidequests are a significant improvement from BotW's. Some of them are really good, it is a mixed bag overall though.
I unironically enjoyed the korok escorts and would come up with increasingly dumb ways to solve it. Same with the signs puzzle.
I don't agree with the shrines/towers and genuinely have no idea why you would have a gripe with their distribution to begin with, like what?
I don't agree with you on Guardians, they are much easier than Gloom Hands/Phantom Ganon. Guardiands are complete pushovers in BotW once you know how2parry.
The ending is the only thing I can't comment on, I played for 100 hours and saw I wasn't even close to getting every shrine and so I've just taken an extended break, pretty sure in BOTW I was able to get every shrine by that point
The ending is not any better, it's the same thing, only I actually prefer calamity ganon's silence over ganondorf saying stupid shit and confirming he has no real reason for doing anything other than he's a huge photophobe. Spectacle is used in place of saying the fight sucks as well. Both dragon and boar ganon's are "spectacles" and their fights are some of the worst final bosses ever, nothing hype about them once that initial scale of them wears off after a few seconds and you realize all it really is as they sit motionless waiting for you to fuck them up.
>Spectacle is used in place of saying the fight sucks as well.
No, I said the spectacle AND gameplay are far better in TotK and I meant it. I don't want to spoil it for anon since he hasn't reached the ending in TotK, but BotW's final boss a literally static beast ganon and a cutscene where Zelda simply smiles and says something autistic as usual. TotK's is far better, it PLAYS better as you aren't """fighting""" a static object this time, and it bookends the game in a satisfying way. Music is great too.
He's already said he thinks the story is the single dumbest thing conceivable so I doubt he cares about spoilers. Besides, there's nothing to spoil, ganondorf literally doesn't have a reason for doing anything, he's just evil because evil, and zelda magically turns back despite establishing it was permanent is just a wtf copout moment and cowardice over committing. The longer the story goes on the worse it gets so I'm not going to get his hopes up for that.
>BotW's final boss a literally static beast ganon
Draganon is literally the same thing. They both don't even try to hit you while sitting there motionless waiting for you to hit them.
>spoils everything anyway
Fuck you gay
Doing him a favor. I'm sure he's already well aware anyway.
>he's just evil because evil
I have no problem with this, it's exactly what I expect out of Ganondorf, Wind Waker is the exception. Even OoT dorf people read more into than what's actually presented to you. You do get to see some of his cunning shine through the memories as well, I think it's fine as he is.
> zelda magically turns back
I have mixed opinions on this. I would've liked if she didn't turn back as it could've been a more poignant ending that way, however I really liked the way they executed saving her and how it calls back to her fall at the start of the game with the fantastic score playing during it. Regardless of how you feel about it plot-wise, it is absolutely a stronger way to end than BotW's entire ending sequence.
>Draganon is literally the same thing.
Pure bullshit.
It actually attacks back, spewing the mist stuff at you and it does dart towards you if you glide too close. Is it a difficult fight? No, but it's miles better than beast ganon it's not even funny. Plus, this is phase 3 after a minigauntlet of fights that come beforehand. If anon hasn't beaten the game then he more than likely hasn't explored anywhere to do with Hyrule Castle yet either, or Hyrule Castle's Depths where the buildup to the ending actually is
It's just a dick move.
Literally no reason to do that when he explicitly tells you he hasn't beaten the game yet.
>Literally no reason to do that when he explicitly tells you he hasn't beaten the game yet
He wouldn't be in here talking about the story and saying it's the dumbest thing conceivable if he cared about spoilers. It's not a dick move when other anons are trying to convince him this that it gets better. It doesn't, and going in with an expectation that it will just creates more disappointment.
I don't know why you keep harking on about the story/narrative when it's the presentation and gameplay of it all that I repeatedly said impressed me most in comparison to BotW's weak ending.
The narrative of both games is weak, didn't care much for either.
>I don't know why you keep harking on about the story/narrative
Because we we're talking about spoilers. Zelda turning back and ganondorf being braindead evil has nothing to do with presentation and gameplay.
What are you on about?
Since when does spoilers = story elements only?
You can spoil gameplay elements too.
I don't understand why you kept jumping to 'muh story' when I was barely talking about the story in any of my posts as opposed to the overall ending sequence. The story sucks, end of.
> when I was barely talking about the story in any of my posts
Because me and that other anon were talking about the story.
And even then the only thing I spoiled was draganon being another terrible final boss. Still serves the same purpose of reigning in expectations and preventing disappointment from someone who was clearly disillusioned with the game and didn't need to fall into a trap of being told the ending would be any better.
>and that other anon were talking about the story.
Was he, though?
> draganon being another terrible final boss
it is unironically one of the stronger final bosses of the series. The series isn't exactly known for challenging final fights. Still leagues better than BotW's beastganon.
>fall into a trap of being told the ending would be any better.
I hate to appeal to majority here, but there is more than one anon ITT saying that the ending was good or praising the ending sequence specifically. I find it so unusual that you seem to think TotK's ending is as bad (or worse?) than BotW's ending, that just completely baffles me. BotW ends like a wet fart by comparison.
I don't like either endings. I'm not trying to say botw had a good ending. I'm only saying totk's ending has some serious issues and is nothing to look forward to, especially to someone who said what they've seen so far is awful, because saying it's far better than botw's will set up expectations that will disappoint them.
I can't see how anyone could dislike TotK's ending, genuinely.
You like marvel movies, you'll probably like totk's ending
You dislike marvel moves, you probably won't
Just a matter of thinking about what you're experiencing. If you put a little thought into it and it starts falling apart it's an issue. You go into like you're just watching fireworks, then no problem.
NTA, but I know some people hated the fact that zelda was cured and turned back to a hylian. They argued that the whole dragon subplot was a massive waste because it lacked any lasting concequences. which I think is just absurd. Just because an arc ends with someone overcoming a 'bad' choice doesn't nullify the concequences the faced up to that point.
>spoiler
I can kind of understand that (I mentioned it too before that I was on the fence about how it wrapped up that plotpoint) - but I was more talking about the buildup, final boss, and spectacle of its ending as per the previous posts.
I do not at all like marvel movies, the fuck is this post?
Replace marvel with any shallow media and it's the same thing. Replace it with the mario movie if you want, that's an even better example.
You could at least elaborate on what you actually meant by the post instead of doubling-down on Ganker references. Is your complaint about the narrative (again) or what?
What I meant is obvious when I elaborated on it past the first two sentences. If you're not thinking about what you're experiencing then you'll just swallow what you're fed wholesale and clap over things like zelda turning back. If you think at all about what you're watching you'll immediately question things like that and it takes you right out of it.
You're just being silly, I already said I enjoyed the ending sequence for the gameplay and spectacle of it (specifically, the music score is great), but I have mixed feeling about the zelda's character arc resolution which I mentioned in an earlier post. That doesn't make it a "dude just switch your brain off and enjoy it" moment as you're implying. Feels to me like you're looking for any excuse to say it's bad without having to actually articulate any means of how you felt about the ending.
Zelda turning back was an example, I don't care to elaborate on everything, we'd be here forever. Endings like totk's are totally unearned, it's pure spectacle with zero weight or meaning behind it and in this case a last second asspull deus ex machina on top of that. It is very much turn your brain off, don't question it.
>with zero weight or meaning behind it
See, this I disagree with. I'm not going to pretend the narrative is deep (nor do I believe it's trying to be deep), however there's a clear symbolic parrellel between the ending and the beginning of the game, and I'd go as far as to say that TotK as a whole has a motif of togetherness that is frequently symbolized by the clasping of hands. It works just fine as an ending, serves it purpose and (again) the music is fantastic during it which elevates the whole thing. The failure of it is that the game doesn't preestablish that she could turn back into Hylian form, it instead clearly states the opposite numerous times: from the narrative view, it's weak. Weak narrative point aside, it does not ruin the ending overall for me. I just wish they came up with a more satisfying way to tie off her character arc.
It is when it's a totally unearned asspull at the last moment that they had built up as a permanent consequence and sacrifice. The story is full of this kind of bullshit.
Ok I won't spoil the final battle etc. then, even though you probably already got spoiled on a few things anyway.
Why are you grinding out every shrine?
Do the sidequests if anything, there's some pretty good ones imo. TotK suffers from bloat in a way that BotW didn't (since ngl BotW was a lot emptier), you're unironically better off skipping the things you don't enjoy. For example, I don't think anybody in the right mind would fill out The Depths map, it's pointless busywork even if the game seemingly wants you to get all the lightroots.
Nta but I did every shrine and almost every side quests in both botw and totk on my first run of each
Btow took me 90 hours, totk took me 160
I much prefer totk all things considered, the caves were so good and actually gave the world density that it lacked before. The shrines, while being more sterile, were still fun. The building mechanic made traversal entertaining, and the problem solving it introduced was cool (I also loved nuts and bolts). Temples were a flat out upgrade over the fucking divine beasts, with the lightning temple being what I wished all others were. Water temple sucked, however.
For the story it sits equal to botw for me, but the ending sequence was so fucking good I can't belive anyone who actually shit talks that part in particular. The one thing botw did better that I wish totk expanded upon were the picture quests for the memories. Looking at the world and trying to figure out where the picture was taken was a highlight for me and I was sad to see that go.
>I unironically enjoyed the korok escorts and would come up with increasingly dumb ways to solve it. Same with the signs puzzle.
>that korok escort quest in the snow where his friend is at the bottom of the slope
The devs knew
This plus TotK did nothing to fix any of my problems with BotW outside of more enemies.
I did like the sky regions though. Felt like the sky SS should have had.
Tears of Boredom will win snooze of the year
That's not even the best Switch game this year.
>no master mode ever
This prevents it from being 10/10. The game is far too easy.
Don't worry. I'm sure it will be on Switch 2 which will also be $60 for the base game and even more for the DLC.
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5/10 DLC pack, at least it was free
pikmin was better
It deserves to win.
Yeah, it deserves to win "best ongoing game"
Ps5 has no games
>Nintendo dlc is over 2x longer than the average playstation movie
Based nintendo
>150 shrines with garbage filler content
>80 instances of the sign guy
>50 wells to find with a chest/plants/salt inside
>100 caves with a frog inside every time
>same camps with enemies dotted everywhere
>1000 korok seeds
>Depths are just reskinned enemies and zonaite farming
>Sky Islands all have the same green crystal puzzle or flying through rings
>MMO style farming for costume upgrade mats so you won't get oneshot
TOTK is the literal textbook definition of 6/10 Ubislop were the same 5-6 things are stamped around a map 100+ times with no progression in difficulty.
And the kicker is, they had 6 years to rethink the formula or at least tweak it and it's 90% the same core structure with a new gimmick meant for the roblox audience.
The thread that broke Ganker. Lmao look at all the seethe
If it does actually manage to win goty (a very real possibility) Ganker will be unusable for that week
I look forward to it
it'll be unusuable that week if it doesn't win it either.
better than botw
>bg3
china slop with a million bugs that people only like because it has sex omg so pog sex
>starfield
fallout 4 and its consequences have been a disaster for bethesda
>ac6
it's good but not goty worthy
because as much as you guys try to be different than the normies you still have the exact same proclivities and habits
There's nothing else that has any possibility of winning other than Baldurs Gate 3
It's the Game Of The Decade.
Take the best game of all time. Improve on it in every single way.
Expand the world.
Better main quests.
Better side quests.
Better content.
Better dungeons.
Better shrines.
Better rewards.
Better enemy variety.
Better boss battles.
Better music.
Better combat.
Better exploration.
Better abilities.
Wrap it all with a level of polish and technical wizardy which baffles and stuns the entire gaming industry.
I think we can all agree video games have now peaked.
Even if someone loved Botw it's plain to see that Totk is a "Deluxe edition" of it's predecessor. It receiving so much praise baffles me because people are ignoring how bad of a precedence it sets. If companies learn they too can re-release a game with a little bit of extra content and charge MORE money than the original and get 10/10's for it they absolutely will. It will be the end of good games as we know it. Say hello to yearly goyslop.
>a little bit of extra content
>a little bit
extremely disingenuous. Even if you don't like what's there, it still has significantly more content and I say that as someone that preferred BotW overall for being more cohesive.
They literally re-used the map wholesale, and with a 6 year long development time and they only added:
>extremely sparse repetitive sky islands with copy pasted enemies and "get the crystal" shrine "puzzles".
>the underground which is literally just 1 biome copy pasted over and over to cover the whole map which only serves the purpose of a farming location for zonaite and poe souls, (and 1 questline, the Yiga quest, which isn't underground specific, it could have gone anywhere)
the main story and dungeons, which I give credit, is decent but for the insane head start they had with the whole map and physics system already existing it's insane how this is all they could come up with. It's not a trash game but it's highly disappointing and this level of blatant reuse and copy pasted shouldn't be encouraged.
Except those are not the "only" things added. I agree The Depths are lame but you can still easily spend 100 hours in the game while barely ever touching them. For me, the new caves and mucher larger/better variety of quests are the key highlights - both things BotW sorely lacked.
It's beyond bad. Six years is a REALLY long time in the scale of video games, that's often an entire console generation. Someone who played BOTW in middle school could very well be old enough to post on Ganker without breaking any rules. It felt like Majora's mask did more new and unique in 18 months than TOTK did.
I played both TOTK and BG3 obsessively over the summer and honestly TOTK is just the better video game
>I played both TOTK and BG3 obsessively over the summer and honestly TOTK is just the better video game
Same. BG3 is a glorified visual novel. TotK is a video game.
Turning a Zelda game into Just Cause is what made it playable for me. Walking around the giant BOTW map on foot was boring as shit.
>already completely forgotten
some goty
I love Kass!
Easily GotY
if you ignore that it's just an extension of botw it would win goty. i never played botw that much, and for the small amount i did it wasn't memorable enough to leave an impression on me when going into totk, so it's definitely an experience.
I enjoyed both but clearly BG3 is the more unique experience. TotK is basically BotW+. Even Majora's Mask felt more unique in comparison to OoT and it came out only two years after where TotK came out 6 years after BotW.