With the new dungeon changes coming on the 16th, are you holding your modules or grinding like crazy?
I just want to throw my W. Corp Don at people and RIP SPACE on them.
With the new dungeon changes coming on the 16th, are you holding your modules or grinding like crazy?
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you limbus company in the wrong field. cant find this thread with ctrl + f
ah fuck my bad anon, i don't usually make thread OPs
you can try deleting this thread and making a new one, otherwise we're inevitably gonna have the problem of repeat threads from anons that dont know there's already a thread up since this one doesnt show up on search
I think I'll do that, thank you anon
never mind i can't delete the post for some reason so i guess this is staying up, please forgive my 0 prudence
OP can't delete his first post.
Works for me
Doesn't work for me
Help
>using the native extension in 2011+12
Unironically what is wrong with you
Filename should have been "nothing_there" you missed an opportunity anon
I know right. How else can I filter Ganker generals?
don't go to any other gacha generals other than here, i never liked how other gachas play minus this one
If you don't have XP stocked up already, keep doing them.
Otherwise just do the daily free one
I love Laetitia
Limbu Limbu Replacement club
that's one small head
Rupture +12
? ? ? ? ? ?
Fuck off, Vergil.
Holding my modules? I have 200 of them. What else am I going to use them on?
>t. maxed out season pass
they are buffing mirror dungeon rewards by a lot. Also the season pass gives shard crates for ids/egos
>Close to finishing chapter 3
>Run out of enkephalin
this is what I get for listening to the "convert it all into modules" meme
Your level ups? Grind the mirror dungeon.
>convert it all into modules
Another one has fallen for the hodl deception
Just got home from work, explain the changes
But slowly, I have low SP
new mirror dungeons give no xp but shit out bp pips (88 per week just doing the daily free run). the other two dungeons give out xp and thread but cost regular ekephalin rather than modules. the "end game" dungeon is static and only changes monthly. seems to cost 1 module to open and you get a bonus for beating it once a week. it's 13 fights in a row and if you die you have to start all over
Don't fall for the memes you don't need anything more than the weekly rewards
When mirror dungeon 2 eventually releases this will all be useless.
Unless you're doing this for the battle pass levels, actually that's useless as well because you might as well work IRL and use the money you earn to buy battle pass levels, that'd probably take less time.
You've already received this anon
and you're still not satiated? Why are you spreading this misinformation? If you aren't grinding you're NGMI, and that's fact
Is this game a mobile gacha game? Cause you guys keep using mobile gacha terminology but library of Ruina was a steam game so I'm confused
Its the third game to a series of really good PC games
The third game is also on Steam, its a gacha, but El Director doesnt know how to make a Gacha, he knows how to make a good game
Mobile and PC, but yes, this is a gacha. It's pretty generous thus far though, and people are already proving you can clear all the current content with the free characters you have, so it's not too shabby as far as gacha games go. Story/art/music is also really good, on par for typical PM games like LobCorp or Ruina.
So this is a F2P game then? If so maybe I'll try it
Just a warning some stuff like levels are grindy as hell atm.
yeah it's F2P and you don't need to put money in really, you get enough free rolls and the base crew you get is able to handle everything for now as long as you learn the game. i only got the $10 battle pass but it's not at all necessary unless you want to max out all your shit a bit easier or get some free goodies out of it
I say this as a man who typically treats gacha games like the plague
Wish there was a way to skip the entire dungeon segment and go straight to the boss fight on replays. Though I guess there'd be the issue of not getting EGO gifts. I just wanna quickly refight Kromer, man.
You're either gonna have to wait for the daily bosses system
yi sang has
>the worst ids
>the worst egos
>it barely a character
when will he get buffs?
Blade lineage is pretty good, and he has one of the few accessible wrath dumps
the free 000 Blade Lineage one is pretty fucking good on my end. Damn near never loses clashes since he's got a high base
Next chapter is his, so very soon.
>000 Salsa
>Bad
His chapter will be pure kino. I can feel it in my bones.
seven association yi sang with his clash boost passives and pierce fragile will be ballin in the future trust the plan
Micro bikini ish identity when
you will get ish in a cute non lewd sailor uniform and you will like it
Jokes on you I have a uniform fetish
no shit your in a PM thread
GREGOR FULL BUG EGO WHEN?
gotta wait for his realization chapter
Never. It would be bugged.
Fuck you I laughed
>kaiju Gregor
D I S T O R T I O N ID. I also want to see him scuttle scoot on all fours.
But what would he look like?
lets see if this works now
Does anyone have the Chesed/Gebura version?
>Ctrl+F for Limbus
>Didn't find it
>Turns out OP put it in the wrong field
i know i'm sorry, i don't typically post op threads but i saw there was no limbus thread and wanted to make one
The random events in the mirror dungeon makes me wish for a surreal first person game where i go to one weird place to another and interact with random monsters
isn't that just lsd dream simulator
Breh.
I loved the fuck out of SJ
my favorite was that one military sergeant jack frost that yells at you Full Metal Jacket-style
How do you think Identities will continue to grow over time?
>Increased level caps but damage and skills remain the same
>Introduce new uptie tiers that boost damage or add a 4th skill
>Use super special gems you can only get on chance from dungeon runs that upgrade an identity
>No upgrades and new identities will replace old ones
my guess? They increase uptie amount. It already looks like the attack system will get larger and hence require more skills
God no, hopefully only level caps
Uptying all Identities of the same world for a bonus passive
I would really like "world theme" bonus
>have all Kuros
>boost bleed stacking for all
Or some gay shit like that.
I would prefer if it were more
>if you have X ids of Y type then [passive]
so that team comps dont just become pilling the same ids into a team
Well that basically the same? Unless they gonna make more Kurokumo for blunt + bleed damage. Having 3 characters is enough.
That's kinda how it works
Same group IDs have similar sin type spreads, meaning they have a pretty high chance of getting their passives off from just regular gameplay
My question is if they're going to add higher quality identities. It doesn't seem likely, as the current system they're using for rarity is based on is the kabbala and that's a closed system
>as the current system they're using for rarity is based on is the kabbala and that's a closed system
w-what
what I mean is there isn't anything above the 000 in the system they're pulling it from, so we already have access to the rarest possible quality
That's not what I was confused about. How do the 0s relate to Kabbalah?
>000. Ayin
personally I'd be fine with a level cap raise or just new IDs that introduce new status effects or have some fun gimmicks to them
Adding uptie tiers or extra rarity tiers can really make balancing a clusterfuck later.
it would also mean i'd have to go back and update my entire excel sheet so please pm don't make me do it i've already put like 20+ hours into making that shit
Anticipating the passive rework so it works off stocked sin instead of resonances that never come
They should work both ways. Maybe the ego you wear should have both the active passive that you get when you use it and a always active passive skill.
They're reworking sin resonance to also boost offense and defense level AKA increase clash power and reduce damage taken, so passives will be going off much more frequently
They just need to make passives more impactful. Some passives are basically in the tier of some abno gifts/accessories from the previous two games.
They shouldnt make it be based off the resonance you have saved up though, because EGO is obviously going to be the endgame meta when WAW and ALEPH egos exist. There just arent many fights where you get to the max 12 skill slots to generate a shit ton of SIN yet and in abno fights youre stuck at 5 which makes it very difficult to generate for anything but default EGO spam
Everything but the first one sucks massive balls.
So all of them at once.
i dunno what kusoge the director plays but it's definitely 4* uncap with new skills that everyone will doompost about
>everyone will doompost about
>helps old ID's still stay relevant
>helps borderline useless garbage ID's, since some skill might be actually good
I see no reason to doompost about it.
theoretically yes, but it always ends in shitposting over how x is ruining the direction of the game and y was robbed
I don’t care about stats but giving Identities more story scenes would be fun. I’d kill for LobCorp Faust to interact with any of the Abs or actually having to deal with Ordeals
>I’d kill for LobCorp Faust to interact with any of the Abs or actually having to deal with Ordeals
Weren't ordeals purely a HQ thing? Shit was effectively Ayin's nightmares.
>LobCorp Faust
Speaking of; I’m surprised there’s only one identity for LC. I wonder if any of the other sinners would get a LobCorp Identity sometime in the future
>Lobotomy Corp Ryoshu
>She’s wearing red shoes
>she’s not under control she just thought it’d be funny to wear similar shoes to scare the shit out of everyone
>lobcorp Don Quixote
>She's wearing scarecrow's ego gift
>Uptie IV adds a single quantity fourth skill.
>Uptie V gives access to an alternative of the identity, allowing you to swap between forms
>repeat ad nauseum
Prestige system where after maxing out a sinner's level you can reset their level for a permanent bonus but only a limited amount of times. Could be extra growth on stats.
Alternatively extra uptie limit that gets unlocked after a certain chapter because the base identities have been getting upgraded every chapter.
Maybe unlocking passive-attributing and using other IDs to attach extra passives
I don't think this was supposed to happen.
H-help?
>The Shattered Mirror Dungeon
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
Charon knows where she's going
CHARON'S FUCKING STUCK I CAN'T MOVE ANYWHERE
DIRECTOOOOOOOR GIVE ME BACK MY GODDAMN MODULES
chesed to meet you
THE BUS HAS GONE OFF-ROAD
CHARON
READ THE FUCKING MAP CHARON
Become Americain.
>I needed to change the date and time format to American
Ah shit, someone a couple threads ago said that you only needed the locale to be the US so I changed the date and time format back.
Fuck you previous thread anon, you're wrong the date and time also need to be USA.
>the date and time also need to be USA
Not on my machine
Works on my machine
Can you run a few simulated dungeon runs and see if you can replicate my bug? Cause changing date/time did fix it for me.
VROOM-VROOM gay
Dante
You fucked up
Clocksucker
S.T.F.U.R.
Dunteeeeeeeehh get out and move Charon back on the conceptual roooaaaaaaaad.
>all IDs are Yi Sang
IDeal indeed
IDeal
>Every ID is Yi Sang
>Max SP is 85 not 45
Anon you'd better fuck around with this and see what happens
Can't move to any of the nodes so it's impossible to fuck around.
Druid 'gor best 'gor
Remember kids, don't waste your lunacy on 10-pulls if you're also going to do daily rolls. Always wait until the end of the banner
are u me anon?
I got him from 000 ticket anyway
Dropped it already never make a mobile shitter game again
>try to extract limbus code by slapping the gameassembly.dll into ii2cpp
>it sure does extract the assembly-csharp dll, but it only contains method names, the methods themselves have absolutely nothing in them
huh, am i doing something retarded, or does this mean we're locked out of what kind of spaghetti code that pm makes?
wasn't the source code accidentally included in the latest patch or something
there was a "back this up but don't ship this" folder that was in the last update i think
Every Moon game is pure spaghetti, shit they’ll probably do an update that accidentally spoils the next plot beat or adds Roland to your fucking sinner roster, all by complete accident while trying to fix someone’s hair
>find white gossypium abno
>run stolen
fuck this gay bleed flower
>not running the bleed team in MD
It isn't that bad. MD are easy enough so it doesn't really matter.
What do you mean? If there were actually challenging bosses in the dungeon, it would be amazing.
I am forgotten...
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?
私は「L] です
The fuck did you just call my mom? You double SWEEPER.
To be fair, being a box and dying so fast makes you pretty forgettable.
poor bastard got enoch'd
so were there trash compactors above everyone then?
>LC made those suits seem unbreakable
>Nuggets could have beaten B with a large enough rock
>Nuggets could have just dropped Netzach on B and won
>Literally all of these irreplacable sepherot are a busted pipe away from being gone forever
Imagine having to go back to day one because Malkuth fell down the fucking stairs.
>Imagine having to go back to day one because Malkuth fell down the fucking stairs.
There's a reason why there's no stairs and only elevators in the facility.
Hard to remember when you get memorysquished
Which sinners are getting the sephirah ID?
>Sinclair - tipheret
>Yi Sang - Yesod
>Hong Lu - Chesed
Who else?
the fuck is a sephirah gonna do lol
use the respective EGO of their floors, duh
m*ltdown
AAAIIEEEEEEEE
The Hokma ID buffs power but gives you 30 seconds to make your moves.
>Implying I need more than 30 seconds to press Win Rate
I highly doubt anyone gets a floor ID but if by any chance this would happen, the only three that matter are Roland, Gebura and Binah.
Gebura would be Roshyu or Rodion
Roland might be heath or Mersault
Binah would be Faust or Outis
Don gets to cosplay her idol Red Mist
Don in the book was a bit of a contrarian. I doubt Red Mist would be her #1, probably recognise her deeds and skill but insist Mimicry is cheating so some other fixer is actually the ideal.
>wake up
>still no index
Huh, I just got the Hellterfly's Dream gift from the stupid fire butterflies, but it disappeared after I went into a battle and didn't even inflict burn on my units? What's going on?
Is the update still 3.4 GB or has PM removed the big Unity file? I'm waiting on updating.
Legerdemain is retardedly strong
HA
BALLS
Also yes.
its an apple you fool!
Gregor uses his sack to kill people. Funniest shit.
>give Gregor an EGO based on the abno that killed Yuri
what were they thinking
>Gregor gets it bad no matter the timeline
Built to suffer
To be fair him being part-tree seems better compare to
>lol
>vermin
Literally me
>tfw an arm springs out of your arm and smashes the cup but the cup is your skull and kills you and the arm disappears and your arm is still holding the cup
Is the new 00 Rodya better than base Heath for blunt dmg?
No, but she brings more to the table than raw blunt damage
Mittelhammer Rodya only has one blunt, which is absurdly strong, but I wouldn't rely on it if you are going solely for blunt.
Ok but why'd she break the chandelier
it was a performance, you wouldn't get it
It was cool
From rubble and ruin.
If you ever played an RPG/DND game for extended periods of time, sometimes you really get a strong urge to do something absolutely retarded that accomplishes nothing for no good reason
also i want ryoshu piss in my mouth, imagine the taste
This is an incredibly apt comparison because in that scenario I would have done the exact same thing.
I've seen a couple people describe chapter 2 as "a DND campaign where the DM is desperately trying and failing to reign in his players from doing the most retarded actions possible"
and yeah, i'd say that's accurate
>One day Ryoshu sits down on your lap but doesn't say anything or takes a long time before she gets up without a word
>Does it every day
>If you bring it up, she says she's going to SHIT on you and then goes back to facing forward
Uhhhh
YWGI
>that artstyle
No... it cannot be...
Gentlemen, I've come to day the C word
CHIBI
it's just like if you walked into a room in a video game with a bunch of red barrels
from pebbles and crumbs a really cool show will happen
It fit the scene. It's a classic.
she let the intrusive thoughts win
I would've done the same
I'M MAD
when i saw this happen i was more confused than anything but in hindsight it was hilarious
ryoshu is funny as fuck
She's an artist
A performance artist
ISH OF THE FISH
Why do a million ego require gloom but virtually no (good) Id generate it
To make you gloomy
LCCB Ish and LC Faust both do I believe
Don't have LCCB Ish, but I want her
And implying I'd debase myself with a cl*rk
>actually sh
You heard me.
>The prudencelet fears the nuclear clerk
He answered your question, LC Faust is a good Groom generator with absolutely fantastic 3rd skill
>B-but she's a cle-
Get in
I remembered one time i had a fodder agent used purely to feed the iron maiden for energy
wondered what happens if you end the day with someone in it, they die regardless
>Groom generator
Jokes aside, I'll give her a try
WHEN I HAVE FUCKING THREADS
W Faust is annoying me cause I don't run an Envy team, and a character whose gimmick is completely ignored is boring even if they hit decently hard
I'm annoyed with WCorp team in general, both Charge genenerators for Faust and Meur are single hit Envy, while Faust's passive in this case isn't THAT bad (3 envy to gain extra charge), Meur gets charge if he gets hit (2 envy), while Don has 3 attack generator with +4 charge on the first 2 hits, her Groom passive generates her more charge
I'm not saying they should be all exact the same, it just feels terrible to use WC Faust and Meur since most of the time you can't utilize their charge gimmick because of their weak generators
Unironically send in an email about it. I have and 100% agree. Every charge character should follow Don's example with charge on both 1st and 2nd skill and a 3rd skill which uses the charge. Also charge decay shouldnt exist.
Charge decay is the serious killer
If you get bad luck, it feels awful to climb up
I wouldn't mind if some skills had a +1 cost to compensate
Meur
>Get +3 Charge
>Next turn it becomes 2 charge
>Need to use Charge generator again to make his 2nd skill work
>Abysmal coin toss and starting atk, even Canto 2 enemies can overpower him with their own multihits
>Needs 2 charge once for the third skill, but it has terrible clash potential
Faust
>+2 Charge on generator without her passive
>1 Charge next turn
>Good skills in general, but her 3rd skill needs fucking FIVE Charge to work
>WCorp Don
>Haha Rip Leap Ass Space go brrr
Argalia and his friends are going to strangle me in real life.
anon?
>5 days without dailies
>missed free gibs
Account bricked
This is just the beginning anon not all of us will make it to the end
>think the Ganker threads finally got banned because OP is a retard
>Go to/vg/
>Its literally just a ton of dickgirl posting and race politics
how many times do we have to tell you not to check there?
>a ton of dickgirl posting
Ah, my disciples. Worms.
There's a reason /vg/ is so despised
being a former vg regular i can assure you they get quite crazy over minor things, they do find artists distorting over their beloved character particularly funny though
In their defense, artist meltdowns are something we all enjoy
I can't wait for next 9/11, last one nothing happened but I'm sure this time around we will have another big event
imagine something fucking the game up on the level the 9/11 update did with ruina but with a gacha community, it would be insane
i know people sent death threats to PM before but gachafags would actually follow up on them
What happened on 9/11, I only started following PM stuff a year ago
Update that changed a lot of Ruina's mechanics like allocating skills and passives, but it destroyed the balancing and you could easily make stupid-broken builds that would easily steamroll all of the content in the game at the time
It was the only update (I think) that PM straight up had to rollback and undo it, then revised the system a bit more before adding stuff back in
Update with a lot of big gameplay changes.
One of the changes got rid of HOURS of grinding some people did on a certain mechanic.
Also there were a LOT of reworks and everything was buggy and imbalanced as fuck, so people cried and complained and they rolled it back
>Pre patch, pages were set, couldnt edit them
>Release Ruina patch that completely changes the way pages work, has a much more flexible and (admittedly broken) version of the final version of being able to edit pages and add and remove skills
>You can do shit like take a shi page, REMOVE the health debuff (they were seperate skills originally) and then add a ton of silly shit
>really fun, but obviously incredibly overpowered
>Translator has a shit fit, says game is ruined
>Chinks send in death threats for "ruining" the game
>PM reverts patch gives massive apology, says they will not pursue that system anymore
>Luckily still go for it with the system you see now
I think the final system ended up being good enough. But i'll never forgive people for sperging out about EXPERIMENTATION IN AN EARLY ACCESS GAME.
Luckily the opinion normalised and swung to "let them fucking test shit" very quickly
that was a fun week on Ganker
we really did own that board when ruina fridays were a thing
i will never not laugh at the fact that PM games were the catalyst that led to the great Ganker board split
They weren't the catalyst. It happened for unrelated reasons.
I'm listening.
Discussion on Ganker was borderline impossible for most games because of the board's fast posting rates, the alternate boards serve as optional dedicated places to talk about games in a way that doesn't necessitate bumping every 15-20 minutes, and making several boards was presumably less of a headache than making "Ganker 2" which would most likely add an extra layer of inter-board shitposting and "warfare" and would be widely derided for not just making Ganker larger. Ganker is to far more easily orchestrate vidya get-togethers and servers with a pretty good degree of success.
You can get away with a fair amount of games that are barely related to the genre as long as you find the justification for it, like LC/LoR being on Ganker because they involve management and control, or Starsector also being on Ganker despite being mostly about ship combat where you'll spend most of the time manually piloting a ship.
>implying discussing games on Ganker still isn't impossible
I mean the threads for niche games are alright but 90% of threads are now shill accusations, calling anything you don't like "chud", and tourists from 4chan stirring shit up. Don't act like the board split made Ganker any better as a board, although the other boards that it got split up into are much better at the cost of being way, way slower. Ganker threads can go for literal weeks.
It didn't improve Ganker but it offered a place for anyone actually wanting vidya discussion for anything that isn't popular to do so. Sometimes it might get autistic as repeated threads do on /vg/ but it's still largely a healthy amount of discussion made by people who play videogames. You know how hard it is to get an Endless thread going on Ganker? Ganker can barely get together for strategy game threads as it is.
I feel like trying to talk about Endless on Ganker is just asking to get spammed with false outrage over Humankind or whatever the fuck it was
Most people didn't play Humankind anyway.
Just new guard things, more people use the internet so the bar for who uses the internet is lower on average so most new anons are casuals because there are far more casuals browsing the web. Casuals barely play games.
Oh yeah, you're definitely right there. The split definitely let a lot of other games get some proper breathing room to not get forced off to page 10 immediately, it just sucks when you check a thread for a game you like and it's shit like
>60 posts
>thread started 2 weeks ago
but it beats the usual drivel on Ganker, i swear it really has gotten worse over the years, the meme of "you're not allowed to like anything anymore and if you do you're a shill/chud/insert buzzword" is real
>Luckily the opinion normalised and swung to "let them fucking test shit" very quickly
I get it and it makes sense for an Early access game to do that. But I still can't undestand why they decided to release a gacha, a game system that to my knowlodge, you can't just start changing things at will, so raw.
I think my main gripe is that PM at that point had given us no reason to be worried. It'd be fixed by next week guaranteed. I just didnt see a reason to be so mad, especially when it was so fun
>9/11 patch comes out
>we get unironic kino like pic related
>Localiser/translator screechs on discord and says the game is "ruined"
>we get super wacky beta version (in an early access game for gods sake) of the finalised skill system that feels really fun to play
I still have that version of the game saved on my desktop because I quickly saved it before they reverted the patch
What was the 9/11 patch?
>I still have that version of the game saved
Shit, I've been trying to find that download link someone made for ages. I don't know if I would want to have to start from the tutorial all over again just for it though, I don't have my save that was compatible with that version anymore.
>race politics
All you need to do is literally post a art of character made into moron and it will spiral from there no matter which board you're in.
It's mostly deranged Faustfags
Imagine my surprise
Don't project things onto Faustfags when most of the futa and rape were from Ishmael and Don, respectively
How about you keep your shitty drama over at /vg/? I'm fine with you freaks getting your own containment board, shitpost all you wish, but keep it locked up there. Don't bring your cancer here with you
go over there if you want to talk about retarded thread drama. Don't bring your garbage here or better yet have a nice day
Shut up retard. Im more pissed at the OP for making me think the Ganker thread was gone. Dont get snappy.
OP is dumb, but you're a retard for not having a GankerX equivalent
Not that anon but I have 4botnetX but not visible names. Doesn't show on the catalog.
>use plugins
No.
>its not a plugin
I dont know and I dont care
>be retarded
>get upset when people call you retarded
>dig your head in the retardation bin instead of ceasing to be retarded
retards gonna retard I guess
Didnt you read? Never mind, not reading your reply. Dont care
>enter 3-18 wave 3
>base Heathcliff has +5 atk up from previous wave
>wins all clashes vs whistled up Guido
>46% damage contribution
holy fuck Cliff is based beyond belief, if only his defensive wasnt a counter
What's the point of defending when you can make them get in the fucking bag?
Alright anons, ive stopped uptying sinner identities but I really want to know.
Is there ANY mirror ID that is genuinely happy with their situation? Like happy with their life?
>R corp Heathcl-
Nope, hes on so many combat stimms that he doesnt know what hes feeling
Hong Lu always seems to be having fun
Liu Meursault has a comfy instructor job
Anon, their normal identities aren't happy, you think the mirrors will be? New Rodya is happy, though she's also crazy, and LCCB Ish isn't too unhappy.
Liu in general seems to be fine
Greg seems less traumatized
all the Liu IDs
Meursault likes his flames and is a teacher
Gregor likes his new arm because he cant feel with it
>there's now a limbus version of this image
nice
pic related is very happy, just look at her smile
Ryoshu seems pretty content.
This is the only one I truly want
Curse you, shard boxes
>all this cool stuff
>no thread
>no thread
you're in it right now, retard
will never get tired of people doing this stupid fucking joke
Dont worry bro. You can farm thread soon
Thread is my only complain about the game, it's extremly hard to aquire without rolling gacha, I'm glad they will make it farmable
>frozen chicken final boss in mirror dungeon
>last wave got enough resources to just blast egos on everyone
Yeah I’m thinking kino
Philip
is dead.
I JUST CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE
mine still runs at 144fps, I think it's because I never touched my settings after the patch.
Try overriding the game's settings with the NVIDIA control panel and see if that works.
>MD will give more BP exp next week
But do we know if it 'll costs the same amount of modules to enter? Did they mention that anywhere?
Mirror Dungeons are free to enter, though
Only once a day, they cost 3 modules afterwards.
Have I not "employed" you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is a traitor.
Now I realized that Dante and Sinners is doing same thing WN and his Apostles do with endless resurrections
>Send ze Claw to the Anon nr. 630451418
>he knows too much
Who's going to be the One Sin equivalent?
Vergilius would probably be one sin and a hundred good deeds in this case
>Vergilius's EGO has a crown of thorns
That's what I instantly thought of as well.
>Doctor have clock
>Call him out on his flimsy self-indulgent apologistic ritual with the orphanage
>Vergilius is actually one good deed and a hundred sins
>giant clock
>12 apostles/sinners
>rise and serve
Dante is clearly Seven Association's Dante
Did all the combat changes get added with the weekly reset patch or are they coming next week?
Real combat changes coming next week. I dont even think we have the full breakdown of that yet. We'll likely get another breakdown on wednesday
we got a fairly detailed list of upcoming combat changes, but we'll probably get a more in depth breakdown once the changes are finalized internally closer to the patch
>clash only gives a 1% boost
For what purpose, The max I’ve ever seen a clash go was 11, wasn’t even mine, some Anons Meursault decided he wasn’t dealing with Mexican bullshit that day. Most clashes I’ve seen go 2~4 max
>The max I’ve ever seen a clash go was 11,
thats a 11% more damage, and will now be a 33% extra damage
I got a 9 once but yeah it's usually not very high. going from a 9% boost to a 27% damage boost is gonna feel really good though
Make single coin skills slightly more usefull. So far it's
>win bunch of clashes
>get tails, 3-7 damage in
So now even you roll absolute shit, you at least can get some extra value from clash power. Idk how much it changes tho.
This still not fix the issue that there is nothing you can do in abno battles.
>no passive skills
>no ego skills
>no extra coin attacks
what did he mean by this
You only have access to 5 skills in abno battles, while they go to go 15 in regular battles. This makes it much harder to activate passives and get enough sin to activate EGO
Not sure what he meant by extra coin attacks though
This
Chill, we're only like 2 weeks in and we're already seeing massive changes. Give it time, the director is treating it like an early access game
Anon what the fuck are you trying to say?
???
The traitor posters were right...sorry I didn't believe you
Charge was a shit gimmick in Ruina and it’s a meme in Limbus, working as intended.
Warp Don is arguably the single best ID in the game in all scenarios though
Because they gave her limbillion charge on hit (not even heads hit) on what is already a very strong skill.
>Charge was a shit gimmick in Ruina
Confirmed for being a shitter.
Fuck you, Charge is great. They could have leaned harder into deck styles that aren't singleton.
Say that to my face not online see what happens
Also anyone that used a charge focused deck past midgame was intentionally gimping themselves.
>wait up instead of single point stab
0/10. Shit deck.
We’ve been over this. Wait up is better for emotion generation while only losing like 2 potential damage compared to the most damaging light generator.
Don't care. Your deck suck, BOOO.
>charge was shit gimmick
>no light problems
>no draw problems
>free stats
>shit gimmick
The fuck is wrong wit you hagposter? Getting desperate for an (You)?
>staggers you
begone hag
this and all of those buff stagger damage passives was nuts
>Charge was a shit gimmick
Nikolai was one of my strongest units in endgame
Bro, that dude's a retard, but c'mon
Obviously Nikolai was a good unit for other reasons
>Charge was a shit gimmick
*Disposals you*
Charge is a shit gimmick that's carried hard by Nikolai, it would've probably found better use if Singleton wasn't so fucking good.
>singleton addict
Opinion discarded.
Master Roland has arrived...
>WHEN ANGELICA HAD A BABY,
I WAS SCARED OF BABIES,
I'm gonna pull my pants up
If only the head would fix the fog in the L Corp Nest
How could they be so Cruel Nest?
MAN YOU COULD DROP DEEEAAAD
Am I a freak or does she look pregnant here to anyone else?
Oh my god
She's Hod
NumbersNumbersNumbers
I wonder what the other quotes for the Sinners past Yi-Sang would have been were it not for that shitshow.
Are there any CG rips compiled somewhere? I need some Kromers.
Should i roll with that guaranteed 000 ticket right now? Thought i might keep it.
Just use it
You see something you like?
>Yes
Roll
>No
Keep
The longer you keep it, the higher the chance you dont get dupes. If I didnt want N Corp Meursault I 100% would have kept mine since I realised if they added Neursault they'd add every new 3* to it.
Dont use it dunteeh, dont be like me, i got 2 sinclair dupes, dunteeh...
Keep holding if you have a decent amount of the 000s already
Wait you can grind in ruina?
Maybe Thats Why i keep dying and got filterd last year
not really
EXPLAIN TO ME WHY YI SANG PURPLE HAG AND FIRE LADY IS KICKING MY ASS ANON?!
THE CRYING CHILDREN AND CLOWN WAS HARD ENOUCGH
Because you touch yourself at night
>PURPLE HAG
shoot her ass with binah and 4 thumb nuggets
>FIRE LADY
she's easy as fuck, just read that one passive about free dmg
Iori is bullshit because if you have bad rolls she can fuck off to any random floor you may not have prepped and get a bunch of free emotion before letting you pick the next one.
In the case of Xiao, read bro.
Not anymore, now repeating battles just gets you card dupes, and some cards have a hard cap.
only for more cards and key pages.
>you'll never have a rodion gf have a one night stand, and wake up the next morning to find your wallet completely emptied with a note saying "Sorry babe i got to fuel my gambling addiction :)"
And i say heeeeey yey yey ey DANTES GAY and i wont do mirrors
OH MY GOD DO I PRAY
I pray every single day
for free Lunacy
>Crown of Roses
>Talisman Bundle
>Standard Battery Pack
>LCCB Ish
Rupture the world, baby
Enochgods, how are we feeling?
Feeling like my fAith is ironclad.
If Faust is the one who grips in an alternate universe, does that mean she's the one who bullies the shit out of and stalks Sinclair? How does that even work? With her personality the way it is and the high regard she holds herself with, I can't imagine her debasing herself by simping for Sinclair.
it's probably dante, not sinclair, that she simps for in that reality
Since timeline is all over the place. We might assume that there is no Sinclair and history doesn't just repeat itself but provides alternative possibility. Like Mersault being Monk teacher or Gregor setting kids on fire.
It's a world where faust ended up becoming the one who grips instead of kromer, not one where she was specifically interposed over kromer. Or maybe not, IDs seem to keep flipflopping between becoming an existing character and just a world where the sinner ended up with a different path in life so fucked if I know.
Kromer being Kromer is what made her want Sinclair's dick, not necessarily being the One Who Grips.
Isn't Faust after the clock in N Corp's universe?
She's not supposed to replace Kromer per say, those references are just a glimpse into another possible universe where Faust found herself as the one who grips, Kromer can still exist there and be after Sinclair, Sinclair might even be a part of N corp in that universe, Kromer might not be, etc...
>N Corp Sinclair is the one who converted Kromer
I always assumed this was N Corp Sinclair, but on closer inspection it definitely seems to fit Fausts hair more, you just cant see her tits because of the angle
Whoever that is on the left is the one who grips.
Mirror worlds are probably just what-ifs where people with their personalities are put in others' circumstances. They are still largely their own personalities but with vastly different outlooks and opinions. It's how Garnet laments about Lapis when he's put in Roland's role. It'd be better to go with an actor and costume analogy, the sinners are the actors and their non-base identities are just different costumes, playing out various roles with each costume.
>Hear about Don idle quote
>go to theater and click it
>forget I had my volume nearly maxed while listening to music on youtube
>Don earrapes me so hard I get tinnitus for nearly an hour
Don almost ruined being able to appreciate silence forever and I'll never forgive her for it
>Don was the white noise all along
Shit.
How am I supposed to eat this?
Blend it and pour it through the little holes along the right side of the clockface?
Order Outis to chew it for you and feed you like a bird?
Executive Manager, if I may, I will gladly chew your food for you and feed it to you like a bird.
Do you think Dante's clock hands move to create facial expressions?
Can an artfag draw the expressions he'd make?
Already happened
>revisit ruina to mess around for a bit
>they never reverted the absurdly broken post-launch Yesod floor buffs
>Malkuth and Hod never got buffed.
>White Night's EGO is still a assured wipe
>Tiph never got the fixes Binah's exodia had and still gets raped by "ignore power changes" that almost every boss has.
A shame.
>still only barely EX’d 3-18 on the tenth turn with a bunch of lvl 25s
Granted I only brought 2 blunt dealers, but still. That’s a tight check.
has anyone gotten a perfect mirror dungeon run (no damage) yet? Im sure its possible
Only managed to get it on two people. Final boss was the fucking four legged bitch, so my Meursault took some damage.
no , because R corp ishmael killed my dream team before reaching the final boss i was near the final boss.
Danteh...you were supposed to learn how to read the in the last 2 games, Dante...
Don't tell me you're a secondary, Dantee....
Nope, you either encounter a floor with more enemies than you have active nuggets, or someone goes for a one sided attack as a joke
Is not possible, as many floor feature more than 5 enemies for you to survive or more than 5 attacks in turn one that you can't clash them all.
While we're on the topic can anyone who actually has her give me the rundown on Lobcorp Faust's story? She seems like the worst offender for "garnet as lulu and roland" type identites with her upthread art being dressed the same down to the eyepatch.
>Faust is a hard working employee at LobCorp
>LobCorp shuts down and she escapes
>Is now a forced to do low tier assassinations for work
>Laments over the loss of her friends and how she knows she has potential no one can see
Yuri's outfit is pretty much just an outfit
That's something then, I'm glad that despite the outfit it definitely sounds a lot more like Faust would be as a lobcorp agent rather than Faust being literally Yuri.
Yeah, pretty much all of the identities keep the character of the Sinner. N Corp Rodya might be an exception, but perhaps she really did want to feel special>?
I still think we're going to get more on the sinners backstories and a more complete realization equivalent, with Rodya's elaborating further on that since Rodion's sin being pride rather than greed was a big part of the book.
Her greediness feels like pretending. She emphasizes it a lot, but at the same time she doesn't do enough to really make me think she's that money hungry. Like even the stealing of all those J Corp tokens seems more about her bragging than anything else.
>N Corp Rodya might be an exception
Judging by her flashback, Rodya is more radical "deeds over words" type. So something like inquisition is in character. She still has her fucked up side after all.
Its still Faust replacing Yuri, but their personalities do bleed over a bit. Even if its much more obvious in some cases than others.
I think the only one ive uptied who doesnt seem to any real connection at all to the real version personality wise is G Corp Gregor. Maybe his awkwardness when it comes to relationships? But its mostly entirely different, R Corp Ishmael also feels nothing like her original ID, but thats more because she cant think about anything else but her headaches
>a hard working employee at LobCorp
>forced to do low tier assassinations for work
What the actuall fuck is wrong with Faust?
She's a cult leader in another life, so who knows?
>unlock mirror dungeons
>heh, this is pretty eas-
>headless icthis filters me in 2 turns
damn...
>He failed a mirror dungeon
how in the fuck?
That sucks, I didn't run into it until I was done with Chapter 3. Mirror dungeon has a lot of braindead bosses but some of them are nasty if you aren't careful and haven't uptied a bunch of characters.
This is where my clock belongs
A man of taste
The real reason Faust is the one who grips is because the position was left vacant after Kromer and Sinclair abandoned the position to go on a prosthetic purging roadtrip across the city together without needing to worry about company politics.
>grinding EXP to level 000 Sinclair
>see Mariachi animations in a webm
>dump all exp on it
will I inevitably end up leveling all my IDs?
For flexibility in endgame, yes.
>wasting resources on Sincuck
ngmi
yes, I predict people won't have any use for EXP tickets after a few weeks to months
I want Faust to grip my penis. Also to kiss me
What did he mean by this?
Hopefully hinting at Faust assigning Meur to groom a new N-corp recruit into being a potential one who grips for his ID.
He doesn't want anyone to do what he does
Really likes Death Grips, new album this year got him excited
Is Dante the Nail he's referring to or what?He says that he's serving a Nail, but he also was instructed by otherworld Faust to teach someone with the bearings of a Nail? Are there two different Nails being referred to here or what?
And what does he mean "determine who to appoint"? Does Dante get to choose who the Nail is? Wtf this dialogue has me very confused
>Serving a nail
No, he's saying the person who has TOWG's attention has the potential to serve as a Nail. He's a Hammer which essentially means "I do what this crazy bitch tells me to do."
(You)'re the Nail he is serving, and the Nail he was told the teach. Faust, knowing all outcomes, knew Meursault would get mirror-pulled or whatever, and told Meursault he must do his best in assisting (You). Faust is helping you even across Dimensions. (You) may even be her Sinclair
Either Sinclair or Rodya or even (You) and he's just trying to be vague
>Heathcliff's Graze skill generates charge
>But neither of his other two skills spend it
For what purpose?
His passive
Think he has an ego that burns it
His broken passive
>Must have 5+ charge and three wrath skills to get a single haste and damage up for a single turn
Broken in that it sucks ass?
>three wrath skills
You dont actually need 3 wrath skills, simply having 5+ charge activates it. The 3x wrath bonus is just adding more free charge
Then that's TWO passives. Can't they just add them in as two passives?
Still, five charge for a single turn buff that might not even proc the bonuses for two separate moves kinda sucks.
>Still, five charge for a single turn buff
Just keep proccing 3x wrath and you'll get it, or use his red skill every couple of turns,
Its easily one of the strongest passives in the game what are you fucking smoking.
I dare you to find an ID passive thats easier to consistently trigger that is better than +1 skill power.
His future furry EGO 🙂
the passive gives him more damage when charge is 5+
cleaning Dante's clock
Don't mind if I do.
W-WHATS THAT KRONER? YOU SAY YOU ARE GOING TO WIPE MY FULL HEALTH 000 PAYPIG TEAM IN A L-...LOADING SCREEN? A..AND THEN Y..YOU ARE GOING TO H...HAVE HIP BREAKING BONE MELTING S..SEX WITH MY ENTIRE TEAM AND LEAVE MY L..LITERALLY CRAWLING IN A POOL OF A.ALL OF YOUR JUICES AS MY M...MANAGER WHISPERS MORAL SUPPORT INTO MY EAR!
“ SO THAT YOU'LL STAND BEFORE ME AND SURRENDER YOURSELF TO ME AND HEATHCLIFF AND MERSAULT BUT MOSTLY HEALTHCLIFF AND ALL TOWARDS ME IN NEW AND RESPLENDANT COLORS. AND INSTEAD OF WINNING A WOMAN I KEK THE ENTIRE WORLD AND EVERY STAR AND HEAVEN?. UNTIL I LEARN TO LOVE TO KEK MYSELF?. BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE LOVE TO KEK THEMSELVES
WELL CRACK ME OPEN AND HAVE ME OVER EASY KROMER! YABBADABBADOO
(sorry)
I hate you
Cringe
KBC!
But also fuck you
man I don't know who to bring for the big kromer fight. it feels like all my good units have bleed and now that she's functional that's a big no-no
Just outdamage the heal lmao
I tried that my first time and in 6 turns I did about 20 damage
What are you using?
I brought W Corp Meur, G Corp Gregor, SSS Ryoshu, LC Faust and W Corp Don
I used n corp rodion and meurasault, w corp don, kurokumo hong lu, and g corp greg. oops all bleed
>w corp don
really good in the fight except you basically can't clash with her ego cos lol bleed
when is don getting an ego that doesn't job
Only Rodion and Hong Lu can inflict Bleed and Gregor with his default EGO by chance, you don't use Don's EGO even as a joke because it's so shit
I should be more clear that that's both n corp rodion and meurasault
Oh sorry, I almost forgot new units haha, so I was confused when you said N Corp, just restart and bring default Meur+1! You can pick friend support for dungeons if you're lacking good units
>All that damage
>Still can't kill her
Lol, lmao even!
alright this is what i learned fighting kromer post patch
every second turn she uses the gripping, this move will stagger someone even if they win the clash, use meursault ego before or on that turn, if you use it before the turn, she will have speed down x4 so you can choose who will get staggered, if you use it on the turn, her next turn will have the power down x4 so you can out clash everything
on turn 4/5 she will use the big attack i forgot the name of, if you beat this in a clash she will get staggered from that clash win on into the next turn
with that knowledge you should be able to build around easily beating her first phase, for the second phase you just want to have good clashers, damage and ego generation to outclash her
the other big thing is how many affinities you build up on the run to her fight, which is really annoying because you can sort of brick yourself if your team isn't good at generating ego during the fight itself
there's also the ego gifts you get during the dungeon, the one that gives the haste/attack up is very good
yeah I probably need to actually think about egos, I've barely been using them
Just power through the bleed.
this was my team, it was far from optimal but doable
basically you need ego generation and an ego that doesn't do bleed/burn etc
you also want to bring meursault and use his ego whenever you can
hong lu/faust ego spam for SP generation to win as many clashes as possible
Oh are Sin types just re-flavored Elemental damage to go with blunt/pierce/slash?
are any enemies even weak to it?
only seen sinners with negative resist
i hope no one still falls for these images
Click enemies next time youre in combat anon (yes some enemies are weak to it, thats why the additional % numebrs get can get so insane)
Can you stop postin' this, mate
It was only funny the first 10 times
Keep posting this, buddy
It gets funnier every time
I don't get it
the sins aren't correctly labeled
Red - Wrath
Orange - Lust
Yellow - Sloth
Green - Gluttony
Bright Blue - Gloom
Dark Blue - Pride
Purple - Envy
I need lunacy... i need daily lunacy why is director not giving free lunacy for each login or some shit i need to roll...
Buy the monthly pack
Been enjoying my 2 daily rolls
Even if I get shit, it's at least 6 Threads
>can't even enjoy my Mirror Dungeon grind anymore with the next update giving 7 BP XP instead of 3
Why does this game not want me to play it
Grind for more lvl tickets, they will always come in handy
Bro, your simulations?
>he can't enjoy a bit of steamroll after that Chapter 3 dungeon
>also some BP XP and tickets for new ID's
It's not like update is tomorrow.
holdchads win once again
You arent going to farm your 100 modules after the update to 7 BP. Theres no reason not to do a mirror dungeon or two extra a day if you want to.
you won't but i will
Because it doesn't want you to burn out and get tired of it before they beging to add actual content that will have the game be based around, like the april railway system.
>Having 5+ charge makes Heathcliff take the fight seriously
>He puts on his rabbit helmet
>His voice also gets put through a modulator
I take it back this is the best goddamn passive ever.
Oh, I was wondering what triggered the Rabbit helm
Pretty kino
>people actually uspet about things being made more rewarding for future updates
What the actual hell is wrong with gacha players?
why do people hate clerks?
Play Lob Corp, you fucking clerk
Play the game and you too shall hate cl*rks
i tried playing the game but it felt like a chore
i watched a youtube summary and jumped into library of ruina
you didn't beat the game
>He didn't experience peak gaming kino
You're not welcome here, homosexual.
That's a clerk if I ever seen one.
my question is why do ppl think LC faust and yuri are clerks and not employees
Because she ran into the apple's mouth faster than i could tell my agents to run before a clerk moves into meat lantern
She went full schizo. Happens even with the best of nuggets. Excluding SO, WN and Twilight geared chads.
Clerks don't have ribbons on their arms though, right?
iirc Yuri also said she was only ever clean-up duty, which was just moving the defeated Abno egg back to it's containment
You could argue that even then she should know that if the Abno wasn't an egg = something was off, but I'll leave that up to the director just really wanting to kill her off for shock value early on
I don't
They are useful too
god imagine raping her and cumming inside her so she gets knocked up then she forgets the next day and months later she has no idea why she's pregnant
>5 fingers
no...NO, that's not possible...!
X, increase the cognition filter RIGHT NOW
5 (FIVE(cinco(fünf*~~ fingers are HamHamPangPang confirmed, mind you
Post Proof, heathen.
director-seonbae...how could you do this to us...
>t. clerk
Eventually you get clerk lover or melting love.
Go play lobotomy right now you fucking clerk
Why are you a clerk?
The only non-useless clerks are the welfare clerks, and only because they help you kill more clerks in less meltdowns.
>first LobCorp playthough
>get every single clerk lover Ab one after another
>every single day is a fucking slog from the constant breaching
>by day 20 it was unprecedented mental anguish the second a clerk died because it was just a domino effect of breaching
>barely any EGOs because I keep losing Nuggets to the constant breaching, can barely study them either because they kept breaking out mid study, every Ab I had was minimum HE
>Plague Doctor in first week, had a WhiteNight event shortly after because I had no clue why he was hugging them
I fucking hate Clerks
I can't beat the second dungeon boss. The enemies are level 15 and my guys are level 11
post the W don webm
i just realized rodion is angry at don for some reason
I meant the one where she deals +300 damage to Kromer
What a waste of damage with that little HP left
It only did that much damage because Kromer was taking double damage that turn + the bonus for attacking staggered enemies.
Woah, shocking.
Whats wrong anon? Not gonna wave back?
>wave back
>bricked run
>do nothing
>bricked run
I hate this moron like you wouldn't believe
>bricked
>actually doesnt effect your run at all
Why do you guys seethe so much about this gift? Abnos still get staggered properly if you break their body parts. It still cancels all attacks on that turn for human enemies once you stagger enemies since the bleed happens at the start of next turn. Enemies gib themselves with the bleed even if they do survive.
Ive never had a run fail due to this.
>There's a multiplayer mod for Ruina now
Oh dear.
1v1 me no yesod
Can you try it out?
Fuck chesed pickers
Yesod ungamaxxing bros????
>pick Netzach
>become immortal
gg fags
>Obliterates you with guns before Turn 3
Nothing personal, kid.
>pick Netzach
>pick Spring's Genesis
>???
>profit
>MFW the Red mist I cheated out on turn 3 gets counter spelled by coffee headache
I hate blue players like you wouldn't fucking believe
>sub to mod
>game freezes on loading
very nice
>they finally patch tremor
>time to test the full tremor party
>it does fuck all in minor fights
>it does fuck all in major fights
Eh.
They really wanted to have a stand-in for the skills that do extra stagger damage in Library of Ruina but it doesn't work out.
The problem is full RNG nature of skills and stacking. Maybe 0's is not enough to make it work and I need even more. But it feels like you need at least 10+ stacks to feel the difference.
The problem is that you can't actually control your targets in regular fights so it's harder to set up cool combos, you can't have some guy do a one-sided attack to stack tremor and then another to trigger it, plus it's a far more important thing to actually clash against the enemy's attacks because most attacks will cause the character to stagger.
In abnormality fights they have several hundred health so tremor does fuck-all because it's an additive stagger threshold, doesn't matter a lot if you raise the stagger threshold of an abnormality with 400 health by 20.
host when
Sweaty boat sex with Ishmael
Why would you fuck a boat? Why would Ishmael fuck a boat with you?
The whale anon.
We went from Moby Dick to Moby Dicked. Huh, is that what they call irony this days?
This timeline is weird.
Azur Lane
>People now know about boatsluts because of Azur Lane and not Kancolle
Feels weird
shimakaze (female(real form)) will always be my first crush
Essex posters just pushed it to my most recent memories instead of kancolle
imagine the pink ribbon and rope play
Created a public lobby for testing. You'll know which it is.
So if Kromer is the The One Who Grips, the inquisitors are The Hammer, and Sinclair is the Nail, does that mean Kromer would have used the entire Naggel und Hammer army to run a train on Sinclair?
>Start MP round with empty slots on librarians
>All pages are unlocked and can be built
Why do I always enter these threads when they are ending_
Anyways, im reading Demian, do I just have a weird luck, but how come the books of literature I read are this.... gay?
I read Dorian Gray, Im reading Moby Dick, I decided to take a rest of Moby Dick and read Demian, and man these stories are gay. At least in Moby Dick is more of a *camaraderie and friendship so intense it could be constructed as homosexuality* while with Dorian Gray and Demian it just looks like repressed homosexuality.
Dude, the author of dorian gray was literally executed for being a homo. What did you expect?
>Chat function is only available in the lobby and not the selection page so you have no idea if your opponent is taking forever or if they're gone/afk
The least she deserves, honestly.
They really should replace that skill with her EGO that has a low roll of fucking TWELVE. Worst godamn EGO in the game solely because of that. Cant wait for her replacement zayin
Isn't it also attached to a heal though?
Every time I use WCorp team in MD and don't get any good extra units and then some retarded boss, the more I want to just spam Ryoshu+Bugs
Finally, Pink shoes boss
>specialize in slash parties
>kromer
does being even a few levels under mean she'll fuck over your clashes?
Bro your meursault?
Kinda, also bleed or burn will fuck any chances of you beating her unless you have lvl 30s + god luck