worst lore in existence, what is the worst written lore for any rpg you know and why?

worst lore in existence, what is the worst written lore for any rpg you know and why?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    pedophile suggestions about the traumas of abducted children from changeling in the world of darkness

    when I think about it all the changeling is terrible, no wonder almost nobody plays it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WoD, Old and Nu, is a rollercoaster of good and bad writing. Even NuWadofDarkness has some material that could be salvageable, if it weren't so burried under, uh well, Nu WoD.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There’s very nearly 6 or 7 pages worth of damn good writing in Beast: The Primordial, and the fact that there’s any haunts me to this day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm curious about this and not very familiar with WoD. Elaborate?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Simply put: if you play WoD changeling your character is a child kidnapped by Fae and forced into slave activities, one of the game mechanics force you even to choose the trauma associated with kidnapped by powerful aliens and taken away from home. In a word, the perfect game for the victims of the white van

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So the pedophilia allegation is just from playing kidnapped children? Kinda sounds more like a problem with the reader, if it even is a problem. Not my cup of tea, i don't really like roleplay heavy trpgs, but i can see why some might find it an interesting experience.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I don't really know why he went after Changeling for muh pedo undertones when fucking Beast exists. Beast is literally about playing a rapist and child predator who violates people "for their own good". It's also written by an actual child abuser so it's an interesting if disturbing look into the mindset of those sick fucks.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >kidnapping children
            >forcing them to perform slavish activities that cause trauma and self-mutilation
            >pursuing them and forcing them to serve their kidnappers again
            >fae illustrated as old people touching crying children
            >lorebook with drawings of underage girls with wavy objects as suggested by the creators of npc
            >i'm not very familiar with WoD but kinda sounds more like a problem with the reader

            let me guess you're catholic right?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Are you aware that the fae are the bad guys?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes, but who the fuck want to play as a molested child?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Playing Devils advocate:

                Its a shit game with shit themes, but I don't think I've ever seen it played where the changelings in ctl were children. They're always 20 somethings or 30 somethings, who were kidnapped in adulthood. A decade or so ago I knew a bunch of people who wanted to play it and I got roped into it a bunch of times because that was what friends wanted to play.

                Its a game about playing trauma victims, yes, but those trauma victims don't have to be kids, and I've never encountered anyone playing it with child characters.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                perhaps you're not familiar with the demographic that WoD caters to.

                "runaway abused child, but with a supernatural bent, a hint of Otherkin, and some mild allusion to jacques vallee's alien/fae abduction comparative research" that's sufficiently emo-edgy grimdark, special snowflake, and real world creepy to be right up their alley.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >wavy objects
              OMG NOT THE WAVY OBJECTS !11

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, the pedophile game was Beast The Primordial anyway. The entire thing bangs on about how humans need monsters to scare them/murder them onto the right path, and you play as the things that go bump in the night. It never really explains what the lesson in drowning random teenagers in a lake is actually supposed to be, but it sure is something.

            Every single piece of flavor text is about gay people murdering/torturing humans, also usually gay, to harvest some kind of fear energy out of them. It is reaffirmed throughout that this isn't just necessary, but actually good. It adds to this by generating evil false heroes who try to stop you. Not even joking, the act of Beast's existing, feeding, all that, turns regular bystanders into evil jock dude-bros with totally singleminded sociopathic desires to hunt you down. They are depicted as entirely evil, no exceptions, and the book actually says if they weren't evil, they'd be able to resist the desire to hunt you.

            So this is all just pathetic enough at face value, the ultimate power-victim concept where everyone else just can't understand why it's important that you have to hurt them, and it's good that you hurt them, and anyone who tries to stop you is inherently evil. There were some pre-release rewrites and damage control, but it otherwise released exactly like this. Then one of the lead writers was convicted of rape.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Beast the Diddling truly was a glass bottom boat look into the mind of a sexual predator.
              It's fascinating that anyone defended it because of IDpol.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                MacFarland was counting on that. If he said the right things and presented the right "justifications", some people would fall for it.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, the pedophile game was Beast The Primordial anyway. The entire thing bangs on about how humans need monsters to scare them/murder them onto the right path, and you play as the things that go bump in the night. It never really explains what the lesson in drowning random teenagers in a lake is actually supposed to be, but it sure is something.

                Every single piece of flavor text is about gay people murdering/torturing humans, also usually gay, to harvest some kind of fear energy out of them. It is reaffirmed throughout that this isn't just necessary, but actually good. It adds to this by generating evil false heroes who try to stop you. Not even joking, the act of Beast's existing, feeding, all that, turns regular bystanders into evil jock dude-bros with totally singleminded sociopathic desires to hunt you down. They are depicted as entirely evil, no exceptions, and the book actually says if they weren't evil, they'd be able to resist the desire to hunt you.

                So this is all just pathetic enough at face value, the ultimate power-victim concept where everyone else just can't understand why it's important that you have to hurt them, and it's good that you hurt them, and anyone who tries to stop you is inherently evil. There were some pre-release rewrites and damage control, but it otherwise released exactly like this. Then one of the lead writers was convicted of rape.

                Yeah I don't really know why he went after Changeling for muh pedo undertones when fucking Beast exists. Beast is literally about playing a rapist and child predator who violates people "for their own good". It's also written by an actual child abuser so it's an interesting if disturbing look into the mindset of those sick fucks.

                Is the original draft available anywhere? It sounds fascinating.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Probably in the /tg/ archives somewhere?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The final draft is pretty much the same as the original one for all intents and purposes anyways.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The thing that got me about Beast was that I had always assumed their thought process was to convince themselves that they're not hurting them. It's even worse to realize that they DO know they're hurting them, and instead justify it by saying they deserve it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wifebeater: the Justifying

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Oh and for anyone that doesn't believe me: go read through the book, look at the list of heroes and notice that each and every last one of them is from a group of people who are most likely to catch abuse ongoing:
              >Concerned Mother/Housewife
              >Victim abuse advocate
              >Psychiatrist
              Ect.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Also: Karen Straughan is a villain in it.
                No word of a lie, I swear, I am not making this up.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't forget Gamergate is a Hero(villain) and one of the Beasts is a cybervigilante who manipulates goobergators

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's who I'm talking about. Nullsynper.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ah. I didn't realize she was based off of someone real rather than just a generic 1337 H4CK3R.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But why would a redpill MRM not be in favour of gay men being tortured to death for the good of humanity?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Yeah, the pedophile game was Beast The Primordial anyway. The entire thing bangs on about how humans need monsters to scare them/murder them onto the right path, and you play as the things that go bump in the night. It never really explains what the lesson in drowning random teenagers in a lake is actually supposed to be, but it sure is something.
              To play devil’s advocate the core book explicitly states at multiple points that the “lessons” are probably just justifications beasts come up with in order to be able to sleep at night, but it’s presented so poorly one can barely be expected to remember that

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That was added in later. The preview pdf played it entirely straight.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >beast that does school shootings to teach children the important lesson that they are not bulletproof
              >beast that molests children to teach them the lesson that there are people that molest children
              >if someone tries to be a hero and stop the beast, they are the bad guy

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Hunter has Beast at gunpoint on a raining rooftop
                >"You molested 23 children, blew up a post office, and planted land mines on a playground, and went on a rape spree in a battered women's shelter all for some sick 'lesson'. What do you have to say for yourself, monster?"
                >"Experience is the best teacher :^)"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do hunters even go after beasts? I thought it was only heroes that did since hunters realize how good and important beasts are and heroes are all mean bad guy jock housewife gamers.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well that'd be retarded, considering that their Hunter Sight makes them paranoid of even mages and beasts are on average a hundred times worse. They're like vampires or werewolves with less moral ambiguity.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They're like vampires or werewolves with less moral ambiguity.
                I’d say equal moral ambiguity to Vampires

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m pretty sure it mentions in Beast that hunters don’t normally go after Beasts that are just doing their job of torturing innocents.
                It has been a few years since I looked through it though.
                I do recall that the bad guys, heroes, actually being the victims created by suffering the beasts torments but generally lacking the ability to really threaten the beasts. So you end up with victims trying to lash out against their abuser and then getting vilified and hurt more for trying.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Game is about predators harvesting some sort of essence from their victims, all while the people that are supposed to fight these monsters are entirely oblivious, leaving the targets to fend for themselves
                >The monsters can't even comprehend that what they're doing is wrong
                We're hitting SOCIETY levels unseen in the World of Darkness

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have to imagine a fair few hunters got their start as Heroes and just ran out of dream-juice after killing the only beasts in their area

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Im pretty sure that according to the Beast book heroes can never be hunters and are always bad guys.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Magical sentient cum, from exalted 3e.

                that molests children to teach them the lesson that there are people that molest children
                There's a Beast that abuses schoolchildren and an entire sub splat based around a historical mass rape.

                [...]
                [...]
                Is the original draft available anywhere? It sounds fascinating.

                Here is the original Beast leak.

                >MATT—FYI, IF, AS I’M PRETTY SURE I WILL, I END UP DEVELOPING GEIST 2E, I PLAN TO DITCH THE OLD SPLATS AND REDO THEM ALTOGETHER. SO I’M NOT SURE WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE. I DON’T WANT TO PREEMPTIVELY TEASE A NEW SET OF SPLATS THAT MIGHT CHANGE BEFORE GEIST 2E COMES OUT, BUT I DON’T WANT TO USE A 1E SPLAT THAT MIGHT BECOME OBSOLETE. SO FOR NOW GEIST GETS TWO GENERIC NIGHTMARES, BUT I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE THIS ONE A BONEPICKER NIGHTMARE IF YOU WANT

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Demon: You're a big guy...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It gets really funny when you put these side by side with the new stereotypes.

                Also, despite being a crossover game, Beasts treat every other supernatural as a lesser being, most notorious werewolves and vampires.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                more accurately, treats them as degenerated half-breed beasts.

                honestly, they might not even be wrong. The Fae Gentry connection especially seems strong.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Beasts and spirits have little direct interaction, but no discussion of a Werewolf crossover would be complete without addressing the denizens of the Shadow. Much as with other kinds of supernatural beings, Beasts see spirits—even the mighty Firstborn — as little siblings and cousins. Their true peers are the mighty and possibly long-vanished gods of the Shadow: Father Wolf, the Plague King and Spinner-Hag, and Luna herself.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                zoomer post-ironic slang hilarious even in fiction.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It was written by gen xers and elder millennials.

                But WW let it pass, Anon.

                Yeah, that school kitchen intro fiction was a humongous red flag.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It was written by gen xers and elder millennials.
                to mimic zoomers

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit, I skimmed through it and it's even worse than I thought.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What the fuck? This was an actual game? Who published it?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >doesn’t know about Beast: The Primordial
                Oh you sweet summer child. I feel so goddamn bad for the normal folk on the writing team that broke their backs putting in effort and trying to make something good only for one atrociously bad apple with concerning amounts of authority to ruin it
                Also, to answer your question, it’s a WhiteWolf game. Who else would put something like that out without a second thought?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm just surprised a game like that would be made today and, look i'm no saint. I like weird stuff. But who would run and play this? You're bound to find one serial killer in the group.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It gets even funnier when you know beasts just look like normal people and their special powers are all invisible outside their “lairs”. So you don’t breath fire or have monster claws or wings, you just mime it. Full otherkin.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Beast: the Primordial COULD work if you played up the horror element, focusing on you being an evil blight that is only lying to itself. Roleplaying doing stomach turning reprehensible things with a straight face with a completely sociopathic inability to realize that you are the villain that deserves to be punished for it an instead seeing yourself as a victim. It would be terrifying, horrific to play that in my mind but there would be a huge risk of people that don’t get it and take it at face value. The fact that the lead writer himself was the exact type of monster portrayed in the book certainly proves that.
                But even if it was done for that purpose and reason, it wouldn’t really anything that isn’t already accomplished by Vampire.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pic related are the two best legit ways to do Beast I've heard of.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I was actually thinking of leviathan the tempest too. I always felt it was basically “beast done right”.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I always felt it was basically “beast done right”.
                They’re radically different games tonally and in terms of character angst, but otherwise yeah. Pretty much all the good ideas in beast are done better in Leviathan
                >here’s to you abrahams

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They’re radically different games tonally and in terms of character angst
                Hence the done right, the tone and angst of Beast is just completely missing the mark.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                thanks for the read, is Leviathan in the same tone as what those two anons write ?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >is Leviathan in the same tone as what those two anons write ?
                Hmm, not really. It is a bit closer to the 1st one. As is mentioned, Leviathans are bad for the entire world. They are the resurgence of beings in equal part monster, god and man, and each aspect has its own urges to satisfy. Through stars aligning (or perhaps one might say "coming right") the ancient aspects resurface in one of the bloodline around the time of puberty in a way similar to that but it isn't an alien presence to contend with but rather an awakening of a new part of the person. But they are bronze age monsters that humanity has long since left behind (more accurately cast down) and has no place for. So while you're going through this bizarre puberty, discovering new abilities and urges and thoughts it is really all very, very old. Nothing new under the sun, the Leviathans as a whole have never accomplished anything of note since their height in the ancient days.
                The thing with leviathans is that they don't generally do evil things to torture people on purpose but they have something like the opposite of the Promethean's disquiet called a "wake" that they can't turn off. Everyone around them just likes them more and it builds up over time until the effected break and become slavishly loyal to you as obsessed cultists. And it isn't mind control either because the "control" isn't there. You can try to direct your Wake at someone to overpower their will but actually directing them is troublesome as they go above and beyond in service to you. Ask a cultist to do something simple like "take out the trash" might be interpreted as "Kill my enemies". They're your responsibility because it is your fault.
                And that scenario is the one if you're lucky. Leviathans have something called an Ahab, which is like a Hero in that they broke differently. Instead of love, they hate hate hate the Leviathan and drain power from it in a quest to kill it. And frankly, they're justified in doing so.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can try to direct your Wake at someone to overpower their will but actually directing them is troublesome as they go above and beyond in service to you. Ask a cultist to do something simple like "take out the trash" might be interpreted as "Kill my enemies". They're your responsibility because it is your fault.
                I think i've read like 4 different manga where that's basically the main plot mover. Overlord immediately springs to mind.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No surprise, slavery isekai wish fulfillment is rather popular these days isn't it?
                There are exceptions in Leviathan though, most notably the Atolls. They're humans that are completely immune to the passive and active psychic powers of the Leviathans. Due to this they are the only humans Leviathans can associate with as normal person and in fact Atolls often seem to have power over the Leviathans as the peace an Atoll can give a leviathan is potent but also rather addictive.
                They're not always nice people either, just immune. Having a super-powerful god-monster that is desperate to be your friend is sometimes an opportunity for manipulation or worse.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I can't remember if it was beast or changeling: but wasn't Wasn't there an antagonist called "The maggot man" or something who basically abducted children and filled them with worms or maggots before he raped them?

              That game was fucked up. WoD went to some truly strange places.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That’s not beast remarkably. I’m pretty sure it’s either changeling or werewolf

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nah Old Man maggot is a Beast example. He stuffs black eggs in every orifice, including your belly button, then he waits. You will fill full, bloated, gassy, sick. You will go to the doctor, the foolish medicine-man will poke your swollen belly and then the eggs will Burst!
                Maggots everywhere from anywhere! And you'll scream and cry because its scary!
                And then the Old Man will come in from nowhere to harvest your fear and leave to do it to some other random shmuck

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not going to seek out the PDFs to check, but are you certain? I feel like that’s way beyond the power level of beasts from what I remember

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This sounds like generic antagonistic fae shenanigans tbh.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So the pedophilia allegation is just from playing kidnapped children? Kinda sounds more like a problem with the reader, if it even is a problem. Not my cup of tea, i don't really like roleplay heavy trpgs, but i can see why some might find it an interesting experience.

          Yeah I don't really know why he went after Changeling for muh pedo undertones when fucking Beast exists. Beast is literally about playing a rapist and child predator who violates people "for their own good". It's also written by an actual child abuser so it's an interesting if disturbing look into the mindset of those sick fucks.

          how is this pedo? this is how the real world changeling mythology goes also, the fae steal human babies and replace them with fairy ones just to be little assholes or as revenge

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      now when i think about this my changeling DM often talked strangely about his little cousin

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds thematic and in-tone you taboo-ridden gay.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The culture warriors label anything with children in it PEDO. It's easier then thinking.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yea changeling always had strong pedo suggestions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like projection on your part
      >WOD
      >CTL
      You don't play games

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Speaking of, Pathfinder lore used to have a daemon harbinger of child abuse. No, seriously, his name was Folca.
      >Areas of Concern: Abduction, strangers, sweets
      >Domains: Charm, Evil, Travel, Trickery
      >Subdomains: Daemon, Deception, EXPLORATION, LUST (emphasis mine)
      >Symbol: Skeletal handful of sweets

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Great minor god to use cults of as villains in low tier campaigns

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it also has a goddess of monsterfucking, it's not exactly a secret that pathfinder is an ERPG in disguise.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it also has a goddess of monsterfucking
          and what is the name of this goddess, hmm?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Lamashtu. Who is frequently depicted as a very pregnant werejackal lady.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              damn I hoped for a HMOFA goddess instead I got preggo fetish nurgle

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i mean she also encourages men to fuck monsters and animals to result in more monsters too. there's a special mask to even make sure it's magically fruitful regardless of compatibility.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Considering she's also the goddess of mutation they're never healthy, happy children.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >they're never healthy, happy children.
                Healthy, probably not, but happy? Nothing stops Timmy the three-cocked, one-armed, and four tongued goat-dwarf from living a joyous life so long as he remains amongst those of the cult

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              damn I hoped for a HMOFA goddess instead I got preggo fetish nurgle

              i mean she also encourages men to fuck monsters and animals to result in more monsters too. there's a special mask to even make sure it's magically fruitful regardless of compatibility.

              Considering she's also the goddess of mutation they're never healthy, happy children.

              truly /ourgirl/

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t forget the goddess of nature who’s PC worshippers get magic powers from beating off into shrubbery

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In my understanding it seems that any incidents with the changelings and entering the dreaming would end up like a run in with this guy instead of a molestation
      Which is both deadly and traumatic

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf xDD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's quite something for sure. Where can i read more about this fascinating setting?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The second OVA of Legend of the Overfiend. It's a copy-paste.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No idea where people pirate rpg stuff nowadays. Ask the share thread.

        The second OVA of Legend of the Overfiend. It's a copy-paste.

        kek, pretty sure this is straight out of one of the Urotsukidoji sequels.

        kek, pretty sure this is straight out of one of the Urotsukidoji sequels.

        Yeah, I know. There was a certain public channel around here that would show Akira and LoO once a year, during late night Saturdays.

        Ctech was weird, man. Pity it aged like milk (the idea of Lovecraft lite and animu was less overdone at the time) and its mechanics were utter dogshit, but there was something interesting in all the mess they threw out.
        The reboot is still dead, right?

        There were neat ideas, but the execution was as messy as Braindead's later half. And the design of their portable baby sacrifices, as well as the way they considered religions, was utterly retarded.

        Reboot? Nani?

        Shame Aeon Entelechy Evangelion wasn't finished.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, they tried to throw out a second edition staring with unfucking the rules. The first playtests only had Tagers and were.... considerably less shit than the baseline CTech edition 1. Still kinda dogshit and it simply died off.

          >reboot dead?
          Probably. Tragers we’re my jam. Too bad the system is a cascade of retarded mechanics. Besides Ctech was BUILT to be grimderp + all of the animu. Don’t bitch, bro, that’s what you signed up for. But yeah, fuck all that pokerdice bullshit.

          Again, I have a soft spot for CTech. All the animu at once (Eva, blue skinned space babes, mecha against the Old Ones, biopunk secret warfare) but it's essentially unplayable. The production values were also good, the art was inspiring, likewise the designs. Well, maybe not the rape furries. Also, it's funny to think that the Usual Suspects were screeching at Ctech already in 2007 - I remember how amazed I was that some forums considered the game a warcrime, if only we knew how it would end up. If Ctech tried to release nowadays the authors would be hunted and burnt in public, poor fucks.t4rykd

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The production values were also good
            They preview'd some really good miniatures of Tagers as well.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I thought the 2nd edition thing was still active as of a couple of months ago. Huh.

            I wonder if it would be a dick move to just make my own CTech? Using a non-retarded system and keeping the street-level stuff only (Tagers, Parapsychics, Sorcerers, and Power Armor dudes vs. the Dhohanoids and Cultists)

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous.

            Any other systems you can use to play CTech without massive amounts of homebrew? It did always sound fun, and like a game that self-gatekeeps by being deliberately retarted really.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              GURPS has Cthulhupunk, it's for the last edition and is GURPS so you'll have to do lots of work if you're not already autistic about the system.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The production values were also good
            They preview'd some really good miniatures of Tagers as well.

            Yeah, the art was really good. All the mechs and powersuits were genuinely cool-looking as hell and made me want to play it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I feel that. Theres not a whole lot of new ttrpg stuff coming out that I have any interest in these days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >fascist automasturbator death chairs
      It's just like WW2!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And just as fictitious.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ctech was weird, man. Pity it aged like milk (the idea of Lovecraft lite and animu was less overdone at the time) and its mechanics were utter dogshit, but there was something interesting in all the mess they threw out.
      The reboot is still dead, right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the idea of Lovecraft lite and animu was less overdone at the time
        L M A O

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ctech is 2007. It wasn't THAT beaten to death then, and the Ctech devs at least took direct inspirations from a shitton of classics and not-so-classics. Sure, they had the rape furries and the rape camps and the mind rape and the rape chinese demon army, but some things weren't that bad.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It wasn't THAT beaten to death then
            R O F L

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, the Dickwolves would leave their number.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >reboot dead?
        Probably. Tragers we’re my jam. Too bad the system is a cascade of retarded mechanics. Besides Ctech was BUILT to be grimderp + all of the animu. Don’t bitch, bro, that’s what you signed up for. But yeah, fuck all that pokerdice bullshit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They're trying to imitate some activity in their discord. Apparently some writing is going on but nah, it's going to be DOA if ever comes out.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      kek, pretty sure this is straight out of one of the Urotsukidoji sequels.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Giga based. The art is cool, though, despite the rapeinator 4000 ultra deluxe (free shipping)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish Jack Chick had seen this sort of shit when he was drawing comics about the dangers of DnD in the 80's.
      >2010's says hold my beer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ever wondered what killed him, anon?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I bet it was cock overdose.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I'd love to ride that thing once.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >what is the worst written lore for any rpg you know
      OP said worst.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >*slaaneshi heavy breathing noises*

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wait for it, there was something even better

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's particularly irritating about this one is, I kind of get it.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kys

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I also think monkeys are an allegory for black people
            ...anon...wtf?

            downbooted

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            On it, chief!

            >I also think monkeys are an allegory for black people
            ...anon...wtf?

            no monkeys in our story because, because black people ok!

            What I get is, they didn't really have a choice, being a company, but to get rid of it. The slavery and simian shit will get brought to their door if they ignore it, because of course it will, and it's hard to reason for the Hadozee lore today, because of course it is.
            That's why it's irritating. Removing Hadozee lore was a [special] move, but not doing it would be biz suicide.
            Jokes on them for being big biz in the end I guess. Or on us for having content actively stripped from our purchases or whatever.
            What's even more [special] is that WotC could have just made all new Hadozee lore if they wanted, they've redesigned their appearance already, and it's not like Spelljammer had anything to do with 3rd edition.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >not doing it would be biz suicide.
              Oh yeah because the monkey people would totally result in WoTC collapsing if they didnt remove them
              Like most assinine social justice issues, if you just ignore it, it usually goes away. Because most of the people complaining don't buy shit in the first place. And even if they do, they're in the minority of the customerbase.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I also think monkeys are an allegory for black people
          ...anon...wtf?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >t. Uses terms like "ghetto-ape"
            The devil is in the details, I assume

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              do you call black people "ghetto-ape" anon

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I call them moon crickets, actually

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >devil is in the details
              details such as actually racism of the people who see these parallels

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no monkeys in our story because, because black people ok!

            I made a race of ape human people based on Super Saiyan 4's for my setting that are essentially Brazilians.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              As a Brazilian monkey I'm flattered

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Considering your kind are all a bunch of weeaboos, checks out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no monkeys in our story because, because black people ok!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The monkey in the game is you.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you actually retarded?
            It's the fact that they're both monkeys and a specific uprooted race thrusted directly into slavery.
            They cut the slavery part.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >replying to a wojakspammer
              C'mon now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we're removing monkey people because they're racist, heh I mean look at them they totally look like morons don't they?
        Interestingly I'm ultra racist but I love monkeys and monkey-people. I have literally never seen an orc or a monkey-person and thought "this is an allusion to morons" but these progressive SJWs do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not monkey people, it's slave monkey people dressed up in minstrel outfits who love their white elven masters

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            except those "minstrel outfits" are the current ones once removed the "racist" undertones according to WotC

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Saying you are very racist and that you're incapable of noticing how other people are affected by things that don't affect you Is not mind blowing ir anything anon

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm black, shit like this is offensive to me because I don't see any resemblance here

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I see monkey people and I think blacks
            >YOU ARE RACIST!!!
            >I see monkey people and I don't think blacks
            >YOU ARE RACIST!!!
            Holy shit, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >a ancient chinese blackface role being performed at the Opera

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but hes dressed as a cat. catface?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, the character is a monkey person being played by a non-African-American.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So the monkey king was just about a black dude?

                Makes sense why they love DBZ so much, I guess.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Monkey king and his demon-vanquishing BBC.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                XDDDDD

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So the monkey king was just about a black dude?
                No. The mask that

                >a ancient chinese blackface role being performed at the Opera

                is wearing is a highly stylized golden monkey mask. WTF would you bring American race politics into a 3000 year old Chinese myth? (You don't have to answer that question if you think it might tend to incriminate you)

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As a joke

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fair enough.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You are starting to get it, it doesn't matter what YOU think, it only matters what I think, and I already decided that you are racist.
              Also, you are not allowed to look at the dictionary definition of racism, that's racist because black people can't read and the people who make dictionaries are white.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1. return to plebbit
            2. you will never be a woman
            3. have a nice day immediately

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Amen

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They managed to take the old lore and include some pointless Americanisms about black people they were caught off-guard when people noticed.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            God i hate USA so much

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They can't help being raised wrong.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cancel The Wizard of Oz next, I guess? Because where do flying monkeys originate from again?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What's particularly irritating about this one is, I kind of get it.

          >we're removing monkey people because they're racist, heh I mean look at them they totally look like morons don't they?
          Interestingly I'm ultra racist but I love monkeys and monkey-people. I have literally never seen an orc or a monkey-person and thought "this is an allusion to morons" but these progressive SJWs do.

          For context they changed the lore for the new book.
          Old monkeys
          >Space travelers that love adventure and have been exploring so long they forgot where the home world is.
          >Reliable if very rowdy, very much your stereotypical sailors
          Nu monkeys
          >Uplifted by a wizard in a tired planet of the apes reference to be a slave race
          >Wizards assistants killed him to help uplift the Hadozee in a white savior complex
          >Monkeys show gratitude by singing, dancing, and performing funny comedy shows for their beloved new saviors
          >Are stated to have comically large mouths and toothy smiles
          They literally inserted a white savorier fantasy into the game

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Gone from Hale & Hearty Roustabouts to literal Watermelon smile bros who worship the white man
            You really couldn't make it up if you tried, it's beyond parody.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only part of this story that bothers me is that WOTC tried to blame "old material" from earlier editions, as if they didn't add the slave race part. Trying to blame old writers for their mistakes is gross.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nice strawman but that's not what it said at all, and it was a very, very blatant planet of the apes reference.

            it's on you for reading into "expiremented on apes become sentient and escape with help of a lab assistant" and turning that into some grand analogy about black people because you subconsciously think "moron=ape" while you clutch your pearls about imaginary racism.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anyone who defends Hadozee clearly doesn't know their lore. I honestly agree with this one.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They went from being hanger-on crew of elvish ships to a starfaring race that had decided on uplifting itself after they teamed up with the Wizard of Oz's lab assistants.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That is just planet of the apes.
              Is planet of the apes about black peoples too?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Obviously. Everything is race commentary.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What exactly is racist about this? Wouldn't they be portrayed as lazy and untrustworthy if the author's intention was to make a racist allegory of black people in the US?

            Or is it just that a servitor race cannot be humanoid without being racist? Would slapping a few tentacles to that face have solved the issue?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >be a literal monkey warband that collectively hires itself out
              >in this monkey warband society, the most bragging rights can be won from being hired and getting a fair day's work out of people who only grudgingly accept you as part of the onboard crew

              I mean I get that properly atomized basedboys wouldn't understand the experience of you and the boys having a jolly good time working for those stiff motherfuckers who can't help paying your a fair wage under fair treatment on account of your collective armed bargain power.

              So raycism is the only way for them to comprehend the situation.

              Likewise, lab assistants teaming up with sentient experiments to found a starfareing monkey republic? RAYCISM. YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO SYMPATHIZE AND ORGANIZE ACROSS RAYCIAL LINES.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the hell are you going on about. Meds, get them.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So the initial problem is that they are called Deck Apes which is US Navy slang for a Bosun’s Mate. That’s something that pre-2016 WotC would have simply ignored the controversy of and post-2016 EotC would have just deleted before it went to draft.
              3e Stormwrack decided that the Bat/Chewbacca people that had existed since they were actually a species in Star Frontier had to go because “fantasy” and made them actual apes which happen to have flaps. They also changed the lore to go from Hadozee having a special relationship with Elves in that they get hired to crew their ships preferentially, to Hadozee being servile to elves they encounter and alway happy.
              Come 5e and the team decide that the Hadozee would make a great Planet if the Apes reference because they now look like monkey/apes, (even if artist still harken back to 2e in some pictures).
              Planet of the Apes, the Movie is the thing referenced because Americans don’t know about the book which is French and set on another planet. As a side note, the initial Planet of Apes movies and TV show evokes race relations in the US in the late 60s deliberately, but it could easily be that WotC didn’t watch or get that.
              So now the Hadozee were magically uplifted by an evil Wizard who some elves help defeat, and the Hadozee swore everlasting friendship with their liberators and now work for them happily.
              Also Hadozee got as a racial ability the ability to reduce damage. Which they never had before until this edition, but does bring to mind a regularly believed crackpot theory in the US that black people have thicker skin.
              The total of this caused people to complain and WotC responded by nuking the whole lore from all reprints and online sources.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So basically they need to take them back to Star Frontiers Lore/Design because Star Frontiers was fucking based.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >but does bring to mind a regularly believed crackpot theory in the US that black people have thicker skin.
                I mean they were bred to be farm equipment if you're talking about physiology, though I believe it'd be false psychologically given the well recorded phenomenon of what some call a "bro moment" while other describe as "chimping out"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >a regularly believed crackpot theory in the US that black people have thicker skin
                That is not a regularly believed thing in the US. The crackpot thing is believing people believe that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fuck you! Even doctors in US hospitals perpetuate that myth.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you specify the US? I’m African American and have never heard it before people started claiming it was a thing with the Hadozee.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >As a black man...
                I specified US because I wouldn't want to make unfair generalizations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hadozee lore is just Planet of the Apes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They swapped old Planet of the Apes+the pirate monkey fairbanks parody for nu-apes+wizard of oz.

          It takes a severely racist retard to see morons in that bare bone backstory.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we're removing monkey people because they're racist, heh I mean look at them they totally look like morons don't they?
        Interestingly I'm ultra racist but I love monkeys and monkey-people. I have literally never seen an orc or a monkey-person and thought "this is an allusion to morons" but these progressive SJWs do.

        no monkeys in our story because, because black people ok!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We get it anon. You project your beliefs of black people onto space monkeys. We get it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I hope those colossal leftist fucking pussies squatted the Giff race out of Spelljammer too because of 'muh body positivity' and black women often being compared to lizzos, ^h^h^h sorry I meant hippos.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No they just managed to mangle their own “no racial weapon bonuses” rule they came up with because it was so central to the Giff they decided the species was sworn Old Testament style to a convent with the NRA.
          Also breaking the old lore that Giff were agnostic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well they first tried in the UA to have Goff without guns and everyone called foul so they needed deadgodgiffsus as an excuse to fit all Giff knowing how to use guns in their new paradigm.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >WotC equates monkey people from a fantasy game to black people
        Kek.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      In the futere they come back to the idea, but only white man will be depicted as evil race lol

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We had populations of good Orcs and Drow in like 91. 3e downplayed them, then 4e ditched them entirely. Its not a new concept it's just reinventing the while while circle jerking eachother saying how great you are.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    this

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Erda being a motherfucking mother for the Primarchs is so much worse

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >lore
      have you read any of it? it's surprisingly decent if you enjoy AI horror. compared to other new shit 40k has brought

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >It's surprisingly decent
        It's super fucking bland, actually. Every time they almost go somewhere cool with the lore GW bandaids over the cool bits with a heaping helping of plot armor.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I personally just concentrate on the grimdark AI gone mad, and just space dorfs in galactic core. I try to ignore all the pages and pages of "lets fill full text of whatever comes to our mind just to fill this codex and sell it"

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I personally just concentrate on the grimdark AI gone mad
            So like a grand 2% of the lore. We haven't even seen any lore about them going mad or behaving erratically save for that one whose League got NOM'd by nids

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it's surprisingly decent if you enjoy AI horror.
        In a vacuum? Sure. In the context of 40k? Absolutely not, fuck that shit
        >compared to other new shit 40k has brought
        …fair. 13th black crusade and literally everything associated has been a disaster for Warhammer

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AI horror
        Aka the lamest shit imaginable lmao

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the very existence of the 4th edition of DnD

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand why people don't like 4th edition so much, was it really so bad? I only played this edition myself and always had a lot of fun

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a mix of things. It was a huge departure from 3.5 which had essentially become a sacred cow. The intended web features never fully came out due to the dev doing a murder/suicide. Wizards were no longer I win buttons with a massive spell list. But most importantly, it gamified some terms like powers and listing movement in grid squares so some retarded compared it to WoW and it never recovered from every 3.5 slave clinging to that phrase to the grave.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >intended web features never fully came out due to the dev doing a murder/suicide

          wait what?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Exactly what he said.
            After the dev did it, WotC suddenly succeeded that it would be better to start working on 5e.
            If not for that, 4e was going to have a vtt more or less as the main vtts were being developed.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >After the dev did it, WotC suddenly succeeded that it would be better to start working on 5e
              It happened the month after 4e released. Hasbro had a lot of mismanaging to do before they decided 4e was over.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was just very different from previous editions. It felt more like a video game than a traditional pen and paper rpg. Not necessarily a bad game by any means, just not what most people had associated with D&D at that point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >threeaboo so mad he has to throw "game exists" into a lore thread

      >fascist automasturbator death chairs
      It's just like WW2!

      non-tinfoil hat level sauce?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >non-tinfoil hat level sauce?
        The source is a dying Australian writing about boys being mastrubated to death by dick sucking machines in the concentration camps. It's a pretty rare book, with apparently only 500 being printed in total. Somebody posted it in a pic that's listing often-quoted 4chan sources on the Holocaust somewhere on this board.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cool it with the Holocaust denial, anti-Semite. Sheesh.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, I'm sorry, but there's a real, physical, actually published book about that?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's probably just a page or two, but why would you doubt the depravity of the upside-down-men?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wait till you hear about the eagles and electric floors

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >non-tinfoil hat level sauce?
          >often-quoted 4chan sources

          Also
          >The source is a dying Australian
          so just someone writing "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            More like Ass Goblins of Auschwitz, really.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what’s the name?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That sounds just as believable as the dried pussy ashtrays, boots made out of human leather and the Kadaververwertungsanstalt.

          I feel that. Theres not a whole lot of new ttrpg stuff coming out that I have any interest in these days.

          You know, I do found some new interesting stuff, but it's in some old school blogs and/or written by non-westerners, like settings based off Central Asia, Philippines, Africa. One sees some level of creativity, or something similar because it is ripped off from mostly unknown cultures.

          Trying to get inspiration from fiction and non-fiction, for a setting more Bronze Age than average.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The best one I've seen recently is wandering heroes of ogre gate, and its an attempt at a wuxia rpg.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >wandering heroes of ogre gate
              That is a good name

              Magical sentient cum, from exalted 3e.

              that molests children to teach them the lesson that there are people that molest children
              There's a Beast that abuses schoolchildren and an entire sub splat based around a historical mass rape.

              [...]
              Here is the original Beast leak.

              >MATT—FYI, IF, AS I’M PRETTY SURE I WILL, I END UP DEVELOPING GEIST 2E, I PLAN TO DITCH THE OLD SPLATS AND REDO THEM ALTOGETHER. SO I’M NOT SURE WHAT I WANT TO DO HERE. I DON’T WANT TO PREEMPTIVELY TEASE A NEW SET OF SPLATS THAT MIGHT CHANGE BEFORE GEIST 2E COMES OUT, BUT I DON’T WANT TO USE A 1E SPLAT THAT MIGHT BECOME OBSOLETE. SO FOR NOW GEIST GETS TWO GENERIC NIGHTMARES, BUT I GUESS YOU COULD MAKE THIS ONE A BONEPICKER NIGHTMARE IF YOU WANT

              >sub splat based around a historical mass rape.
              Crying shame that Talassi would’ve been the coolest beast family if it weren’t for the whole “everyone thinks all of them are serial rapists … also all of their famous members were serial racists”

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What was the name?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >non-tinfoil hat level sauce?
          >often-quoted 4chan sources

          Also
          >The source is a dying Australian
          so just someone writing "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs"

          Wait, I'm sorry, but there's a real, physical, actually published book about that?

          It's probably just a page or two, but why would you doubt the depravity of the upside-down-men?

          what’s the name?

          What was the name?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Nazi flight memoir was fiction, author confesses
            https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/mar/03/news.film

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              How dare he deny the holocaust.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lancer. The entire lore section is just nonsense purple prose. It's just page after page of bad technobabble and random esoteric words the authors thought would make them sound all cool and mystical.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what is this shit? never heard of it, is it something old?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Being that they squeezed Destiny's bar rag for fluff and then shook the resulting cocktail with Commie bullshit and "muh god is an AI", it'll do that.

      what is this shit? never heard of it, is it something old?

      Mech RPG that uses SotDL mechanics for the Mechs and PbtA-style mechanics for the Pilot interactions.

      Makes the whole pilot thing feel inconsequential and not as effective in comparison to the giant robot fightan.

      Their backstory is that Space Government has gone full Commie after the apocalypse and tries retaking lost colonies. In their third version of this bullshit (because there is no true Socialism without Struggle), they are trying to make post-Scarcity a thing with the use of magic 3D Printers, galactic internet, and heavily-regulated space travel (because their space ships follow the lightspeed limit), their FTL requires big space stations and is like a Chinese toll road. Otherwise, you're stuck doing slowboating.) The only "Hard Sci-Fi" thing they have, and it's like calling White Claw "hard liquor".

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >and PbtA-style mechanics for the Pilot interactions
        No, having PbtA style mechanics for the pilot interactions would be more than what Lancer has. What Lancer has for pilot mechanics is just shy of literally nothing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LANCER reads like satire of modern communists/socialists written by someone who hates them. You have the turbo racist second council who builds literally everything that matters and works in the setting, and who sent relativistic kill vehicles to destroy the space Muslims in 500 years which the 3rd council of socialists now hem and haw about. You have post scarcity, but also turbo DRM so you have to suck off the government to get anything you want. The only way for PCs to ever get ahead is to work as mercenaries for the big daddy government or it's approved corporations so you can bomb savage mud huts as part of a pacification/liberation/democratization effort by the all-powerful and all-benevolent socialist progressive third committee. This is all so you can ensure that a handful of people can live in "post scarcity" which is only enabled by raping the outlying worlds filled with primitives. There's also asshole turbofascists who just exist for some reason even through they could just print genuine wealth and magic nanobots if they wanted to.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >second council who builds literally everything that matters and works in the setting, and who sent relativistic kill vehicles to destroy the space Muslims in 500 years

          Sec com sounds pretty based

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are, Harrison Armory is a close second

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              SSC FOR LIFE

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lancer has some good shit going on, but it unfortunately hates focusing on said good shit. The primary focus, the Union, a “post-capital” society that somehow still spawned and sustains numerous megacorps is absolute trash. Then on the sidelines you’ve got damn good bits like the Aun getting fucked put of their promised land by time dilation, the HA purple flag being known as “the bruise” on worlds conquered by HA, SSC kidnapping space-jesus and using him to develop and sell teleporting giant robots, etc

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the Union, a “post-capital” society
        >that somehow still spawned and sustains numerous megacorps

        Correct me if Im wrong but arnt the corporate states only working with them, and arnt subservient?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Correct me if Im wrong but arnt the corporate states only working with them, and arnt subservient?
          The corporate states all exist because the Union economic planners decided corporate states needed to exist and all originated from within the Union

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's just page after page of bad technobabble and random esoteric words the authors thought would make them sound all cool and mystical
      And the is nothing wrong with that.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whatever this is

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It has a Beard, but its features are feminine.
      TRE TRI TRO TRU, I SMELL THE BLOOD OF chudS

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's Niko Aris. They are non-binary.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        But is it a man or a woman?
        I don't care who they want to fuck.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >But is it a man or a woman?
          Yes.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entirety of FATAL but that’s pretty much cheating

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kenders

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They make sense as a very dumb deus ex machina NPC race that can pull your dumbass players out of most messes by having stolen just the thing required for the party to not perish, but they're pure cancer as PC race.

        In any case, thieves are supposed to be Piñatas, granting them divine and social protection is utterly retarded.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wildren: Half-Dorfs, Half-Badgers https://1dGanker.org/wiki/Wildren

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Go be retarded and gayry somewhere else, faglord

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ENTER

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      MTG might have some of the dumbest lore in existence.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They made Remilia, but worse in every aspect.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People as sure she's lying when she says that is her power.
        Suika has an actual influence over people by increasing the density of things, be it her own size, or mist, maybe a growd of people getting together for a festival.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's nothing compared to the shit MtG already has, dude. This one's just a dumb trope of universe child God, and it can actually improve a fiction.
      Yes.
      I can prove it.
      Dragonball
      Yes, I am aware that this is not a high bar, but it's proof.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You are now aware that Mark was making an ironic joke.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mtg has been a bad and unfunny joke for almost a decade now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Making it bad on purpose still means it's bad.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WE

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        WILL

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WE

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            WILL

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ROCK YOU

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      honestly, this just sounds like setup for the next main villain after they're done killing off the Eldrazi/Bolas/Phyrexians.

      Cool it with the Holocaust denial, anti-Semite. Sheesh.

      you can believe *A* holocaust took place without believing every alleged survivor's story no matter how obvious it is just half-baked fanfiction.

      >girls
      >D&D

      i mean, he's not wrong. women do tend to lean more towards less crunchy more character-driven rpgs like Fate or PbtA.
      Honestly, his fault here wasn't his psychiatric assessment of women but his inability to imagine RPGs that weren't D&D, the classic D&D-player blunder.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Tie between Warhammer, World of Darkness, and Kult. All three are stunningly autistic.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why are they standing in a map of Ohio?

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see this image and I already know its not worth my time

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >check this out, out of curiosity
    >theyre australian

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What’s their name supposed to actually mean? It looks like it’s meant as “girls who don’t play Dungeons and Dragons” but from context I assume that’s wrong.
      “Girls who don’t dine and dash”? If that’s the case I applaud them

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Girls who don't D&D' is monthly* real play D&D adventure from three girls who have never played before and one guy who doesn't know what he's doing.

        It probably started as a joke. It should be "Girls who didn't D&D" now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >check this out, out of curiosity
        >theyre australian

        >theyre australian
        >“Girls who don’t dine and dash”?
        GENTLEMENNNN
        THIS IS DEMOCRACY MANIFEST

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          GET YOUR HANDS OFF ME!
          And you, sir. Are you waiting to receive my limp penis?

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Trying to hit as many diversity buzzwords as possible.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why would vampires even maintain human religion/politics after a point?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brujah kinda do sometimes, but they are gigaautists. And them being absurdly angry over shit and being incapable yo understand other positions is a defining aspect.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Post the other one about Rudi

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Discounting obvious shit like FATAL, it's Beast the Primordial, which was the result of a pedophile writing a thinly veiled game about how everyone was evil for not letting him act on his urges.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What was it called, Wraethu? Godawful insanely rapey elves or some shit like that.

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wraeththu, that was it! It's insane.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >System is literally "You have just been raped by flower penis, go out and rape somebody with your new flower penis if you want to survive"
      >System contains multiple clans made up of dozends to hundreds of individuums who all don't know how flower penis is formed

      It's like the worst Fading Suns source book expanded into a whole game.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You also missed the part where it outright says any and all stories you come up with in your campaign from playing the game become the official intellectual property of the setting's author.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That’s just not how that works

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      YO WHAT THE FUCK
      I USED TO OWN TWO OF THOSE KNIVES.
      I got them as letter openers at a ten fair for like 10 bucks and they were absolute trash.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you look behind the knife you can see an artistic interpretation of the wraeththu genitalia.
        Please don't report me.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Are you telling me that masturbation machines were made up by a completely unreliable source?!?
    Nooooooooo! This goes against the narrative that schizophrenic white nationalists have been feeding me!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd do unspeakable things to that elf

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Love and cherish her? Foot massages? Bake bread?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Worse. Hand holding.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can't do that on a Christian minecraft server!

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what is that?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      some feminist dnd podcast I think

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's not even censored on this site, you fucking castrati

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    why would mods delete such an excellent post with an amazing get?

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bellum Maga, it's a feminist fever dream where men are under the control of a snake god and everything women do that aggravates men, is secretly a source of magic power that women should feel free to use to make men suffer in horrific ways.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a body horror fetish game, bro. It's no different from FATAL and its infants with penises the size of an elephant's trunk.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a body horror fetish game, bro. It's no different from FATAL and its infants with penises the size of an elephant's trunk.

      Yeah it's got a bizarrely in depth fetish for turning men into cigars or cigarettes and smoking them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It has a fetish for "you know that thing you like that annoys other people? Well it's actually been the secret to your goddess magic THE WHOLE TIME"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Remember that attempt to flip the perspective so that the witches are the villains and the serpents were the heroes? Cain-something, innit?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Here: https://1dGanker.org/wiki/Cain%27s_Ouroboros

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >worst lore in existence, what is the worst written lore for any rpg you know and why?
    Destiny 2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its going to be interesting what they do with the end of the current arc. Because right now no one gives a shit.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vampire the masqueerade

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Very good, very good anon...
      HOWEVER, Changeling: The Dreaming.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >girls
    >D&D

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that post
      >not pants on head retarded like you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >that post
      >not pants on head retarded like you.

      Back then, DnD and the very few TTRPGs following it in general were "get loot, get dames, kill monsters, get swole". It was also a very, very tiny hobby space back then, quite literally a newborn in terms of hobbies.
      A very large reason why White Wolf's WoD, particularly Vampire, was able to compete and do so well against DnD, is because it managed to get the audience that DnD couldn't (that being women), as a result of fundamentally different game design.
      The again, Gary does still hit the nail on the head; VtM comes with LARP rules.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        More like Gary hit his head and got brain damage and you are a underage moron

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know how you came to that conclusion.
          I came to mine based off of non-meme facts; WoD Vampire was a break out hit in a space dominated by DnD, you can look it up easily with a quick google search. It did and still does have a comparatively large female playerbase, especially compared to what DnD had at the time. You can look that up very easily on google, too. These aren't metrics kept in some obese freak's basement, it's common knowledge.
          As for gary hitting his head and getting brain damage, maybe? I don't know, I couldn't find that on google.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That sword is insane.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Beast: the Primordial

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Beast: the Primordial

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does Beast: The Primordial have any examples of characters or adventures? After reading this thread I'm really interested in seeing how the book defends any of this shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One example hero (meaning villain) is a fat guy with a neckbeard and trilby that calls people milady and cares about ethics in journalism.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well.
      How much weapons grade stupid can you take anon?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck I forgot the first page.
        But yes, that is a rape victim (or heavily implied rape, or hell, worse than rape since he violated her soul itself and the only reason we don't already consider that worse than violating the body is because no one IRL can do that) who is going to therapy for what happened to her and who has become a victims rights advocate being presented as a devilish, fiendish antagonist who is totes manipulating everyone by-
        Advocating for people not getting fucked on by Beasts.
        Oh and of course
        >The Beasts tried to kidnap her; but they made one fatal error. Posting their plan to Twitter first!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well.
          How much weapons grade stupid can you take anon?

          Holy shit, was anyone at White Wolf paying attention during the editing process?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Only the sex offenders, clearly.
            I mean at least this one didn't cause an international incident with the Prime Minister having to apologize for their writing.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I mean at least this one didn't cause an international incident with the Prime Minister having to apologize for their writing.

              Okay, I'm completely out of the loop, WHAT?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chechens don't put up with vampire gayry and stake them on sight.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Taken from the archives:
                >2016
                >LGBT-wierdo shoots up a few muslims in Chechnya
                >gets killed by armed militia
                >this is barely news because Chechnya is generally a balkanized melting pot of feces where all kinds of ideological weirdos shoot each other up
                >one LGBT-Activist and owner of radical gaysite gets partyvaned because the shooter announced his attack on the site
                >Chechnya and Russia use it to clamp down on LGBT-Sites as places for radicals
                >NGOs))se it as ammo for OMG RUSSIA IS SO OPPRESSIVE AND HATES THE GAYS
                >the west largely ignores it because no one cares
                >except for homo-actvist wierdos and their sites because they always look for chances to screech how oppressed they are
                >shit spreads like wildfire on pro-LGBT breeding grounds and gets turned into a story about the great chechnyan homocaust of 2017
                >western news ignore it because its verifiable bullshit
                >but SJWs and wokeists dont care about the truth
                >queue late 2017 two new sourcebooks for Vampire: The Masquerade released by nu-White Wolf, named Camarilla and Anarch.
                >Indoctrinated SJW-Bottomfeeders use the Camarilla book to virtue signal about the supposed great chechnyan homocaust
                >uses real-world head of the Chechen Republic, Ramzan Kadyrov, as a low-generation vampire used as a pawn by the Kindred in charge and treats the whole homocaust as fact
                >russian localizers go WTF BRO and leak it to public
                >chechen republic mad
                >russia mad
                >50 min press conference on prime time russia TV denouncing white-wolf and their made up bullshit by localizes, chechehn head of state and russian foreign minister
                >swedish ambassador is summoned to the consulate and has to apologize for his retarded country
                >Paradox dissolves White Wolf Publishing a year later after all the writers that worked on the Camarilla book claim that none of them wrote this piece of lore

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.rt.com/news/444279-chechnya-vampires-table-game-scandal/
                https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-19-paradox-taking-control-of-white-wolf-after-vampire-the-masquerade-lgbtq-controversy
                https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/16/18098929/white-wolf-controversy-paradox-interactive-new-ceo
                https://gamedaily.biz/article/396/paradox-interactive-white-wolf-will-no-longer-function-as-a-separate-entity-following-insensitive-material
                https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/68130/paradox-puts-the-leash-on-white-wolf-following-vampire-the-masquerades-crude-and-disrespectful-prose/

                And actual sources from across the spectrum (Both spectrums if you know what I mean) to show I haven't made a word of it up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >linking Russian state propaganda
                >calling it "bOtH sPeCtRUmS *teehee wink wink*"
                Bruh... Putin's hand so far up your ass he can tickle your tongue.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Something happens in one of the Russian Republics
                >Guy links a Russian source relating to the Russian diplomatic incident that happened in the Russian Republic.
                >You; an idiot too large for any village, a complete mongoloid, a buffoon of the highest order: Why are you using Russian sources, clearly it's because you're a Russia Worshipper! Hahah! #Exposed!
                K, retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >(Both spectrums if you know what I mean)
                Gay and Autistic?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.rt.com/news/444279-chechnya-vampires-table-game-scandal/
                https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2018-11-19-paradox-taking-control-of-white-wolf-after-vampire-the-masquerade-lgbtq-controversy
                https://www.polygon.com/2018/11/16/18098929/white-wolf-controversy-paradox-interactive-new-ceo
                https://gamedaily.biz/article/396/paradox-interactive-white-wolf-will-no-longer-function-as-a-separate-entity-following-insensitive-material
                https://www.pcgamesinsider.biz/news/68130/paradox-puts-the-leash-on-white-wolf-following-vampire-the-masquerades-crude-and-disrespectful-prose/

                And actual sources from across the spectrum (Both spectrums if you know what I mean) to show I haven't made a word of it up.

                Jesus fucking Christ that's embarrassing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >swedish ambassador is summoned to the consulate and has to apologize for his retarded country

                I never get tired of reading this story.

                What a bunch of fucking nimrods.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            As bad as it is, realize it was originally worse.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      U mad bro?

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Girls who don't D&D?
    So, girls who have better-than-terrible taste in TTRPGs?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The name is wrong, it should be "Girl who Didn't D&D", because they do play D&D.

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The girl the lead writer molested was his younger cousin, wasn’t she?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >this got past official editors and proofreaders
      >more than just the sex pest was on board with this blurb about party drama being called “kissing cousins”

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        White Wolf editors and proofreaders. Yeah remember all those clearly idiotic and prejudiced people say "certain folks" are trying to normalize pedophilia? Clearly delusional, am I right?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To their defense, this could be blamed on "Matt went to far in his minority revenge porn", and the biggest Beast defenders, used to be autists.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But WW let it pass, Anon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It is tame compared to the sample play.

      The girl the lead writer molested was his younger cousin, wasn’t she?

      It was at least 3 women.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bricktown, the town that exports bricks from the local brick mine, and everything is made of bricks, even the doors.

    https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/10431450/#10435214

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    My homebrew.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whatever you've written, I guarantee you someone has gotten something worse published. This thread is the example of that.

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The gay vampire muslim activist from VTM
    >The fucking kinder

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>The fucking kinder
      old kinder or nukinder?

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Well fuck now I remember beast exists. We really do live in a fucked up time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't worry, eventually Holden will release Exalted vs Chronicles of Darkness and Beasts will get the Glorious Solar [Vengeance] they disserve.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or, hear me out, WW will fuck the pooch and the Beasts will team up with the fucking Infernals or Abysals and be the real good guys while the Solars get typecast as regressive and problematic along with the Heroes.

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