WotC Has Lost Their Minds

Get in here, anons. This is madness.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the end of Dungeons & Dragons, at least for me and people like me. I don't want microtransactions, and I don't want railroad adventures run by AI chatbots.

    This is... This is antithetical to what TTRPGs should be about.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >MAKING AN ATTACK ROLL
      >CALCULATING...
      >THE ENEMY GOT A NAT 20! WOWEEEEE!
      >IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO IMPOSE DISADVANTAGE, YOU CAN PAY $1.
      >CONFIRM PURCHASE FOR $1, YES OR NO?
      i smell some serious shite about this ai dm... and you expect the cow from microsoft to not try to nickle and dime players...
      Pic related at this point with wizards...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        between this and magic, it just feels like they are doing hail mary plays to see if something works.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          but why, aren't they still making billions? why a hail mary? they aren't even close to bankruptcy

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats the thing - these choices just seem like blatant, desperate cashgrabs. Since tabletop is something you can literally do WITH YOUR IMAGINATION AND A PIECE OF PAPER, I can't imagine that this plan will work on anyone but the must gullible of rubes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The only thing that shareholders want is number to go bigger. It always needs to go bigger, and go bigger faster than it is right now. The number not going up as fast as you want is just as bad, if not worse than going down. We've reached the point where WOTC are not interested in providing you a service, they see you as a direct obstacle to your money, so they will do whatever they think will get you to give them more of your money.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Amazing how these hylics think the number can keep going up and up without something bursting. A dying sun eats itself before exploding.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                corporations are mindless gluttonous beasts.
                it's no surprise that corporatism is a primary pillar of the beast system.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >actually addressed corporatism as the issue instead of the normal anti-capitalist raging.
                Your alright.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                people forget both Occupy Wall Street
                and The Tea Party movements were mostly on the same page as far as the important things go, before both movements were coopted by TPTB.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They know this shit is unsustainable, they just don't care
                Squeeze it for all it's worth as fast as possible and then sell and move on

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hasbro is a minority of the ownership of Hasbro. Like 86% of the company is owned by institutional investors. 7% by insiders.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I would be completely fine with this system as long as all IP and assets from the company then belonged to the public domain once the company reached bankruptcy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Their point is that the brand is, in their opinion, largely under monetized and the only way they found to monetize the hell out of it is to make DnD a videogame.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >under monetized
              seems like they are realizing 10 years too late that their content has to be good for players to want to purchase it. What ever happened to dnd books? Or something that makes me want to purchase minis, or maps? The game has such a firm root in player created content, why not focus on helping players make more content in fancier ways. Why does heroforge, roll20, and foundry even exist? Wizards could have capitalized on those ideas and been heroes for the tabletop community at large.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hell, just become the "Steam" of homebrewed content, and rake in the cash.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                exactly. They did something similar with 3.5e, but in the digital era you could be more effective about content control.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              which is weird since there were DnD video games that did great like Baldur's gate and icewind dale. why not try to make tons of money by making those types of games again. isn't Baldur's Gate 3 coming out soon

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >the only way they found to monetize the hell out of it
              The irony is they have no issues monetizing it. Their only problem is they don't release enough non adventure content which has been their biggest sellers.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who hi I just got a holy avenger in a lootbox. Wait till I show up in game with that on my assassin.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If videogames are any indication this will win big despite all the online whinging. It plays out again and again that there are way more people with more money than taste than people with more taste than money.
      Being nickle and dimed renting everything from corpos is the future and that makes suits and normies very happy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If video games are any indication, when AAA turned to all this microtransaction/season-pass-as-subscription/games-as-service shit, the indie game environment exploded. Almost every game worth playing that has come out since 2010 has been an indie game. Every run away hit, every genre-defining or -redefining title, everything that moved the industry forward has all been small-time indie stuff. On top of that, emulation and dedicated emulation hardware became a massive thing, doubled-down on by idiots trying to make a business out of selling old stuff.

        I hope that is exactly what happens with TTRPG's and table top in general. You're right that idiots will 100% keep WoTC afloat, no matter what bullshit they pull, but I hope that causes a flourish in the indie community, and we see a plethora of new games hit the market. The indie market is already way stronger in table top than it was in video games, too, so I can only see this as a huge plus.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          WOTC definately relies on the brand power for that stunt.

          But ironically most normies knows DnD trough CR so I wouldnt be surprise if they'd lauch their RPG line and obliterate DnD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Eh, not really.
          Like yeah, there are a lot of good things coming out of the indie space of video games, but there are still some good triple-A games being made. Like, are you going to tell me that Elden Ring wasn't a run-away hit, or the Witcher 3 wasn't a genre-redefining title?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldnt call Fromsoft a AAA game studio nor CDPR when they made Witcher 3, they both became after the cucess of their respective games.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe Fromsoft wasn't triple-A for Dark Souls, but I think from maybe Dark Souls III on, or definitely Bloodborne on, they've been triple-A

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              From soft is definitely triple A, it's just not a mega corporation. Triple A isn't a category owned by mego corps, it's just blockbuster level games and Elden Ring (and Darks Souls 3 at least) definitely falls into that category.

              A more double A studio in comparison is like Platinum Games (Bayonetta and Nier)

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >but there are still some good triple-A games being made
            The walking sims that AAA devs make aren't games

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Anon, I wasn't trying to be coy or vauge when I said
            >almost everything
            I chose those words very purposefully. For every one Elden Ring or Witcher 3, there's been 3 or 4 Super Meat Boys, Bit Trip Runners, Braids, everything made by Supergiant Games, Undertales, Cupheads, Cave Story's, Papers Please's, Shovel Nights, Stardew Valley's, fucking Minecraft, small-child-in-dark-world-walks-left games, Disco Elysiums's, all the crafting-survival sims like Subnautica, etc. etc. etc. Compared to AAA gaming, that might release 2 or 3 worthwhile games a year, there's been 15 to 20 solid indie games a year, every year. The AAA side of the industry is practically barren compared to all the solid to great indie games that come out.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Every run away hit, every genre-defining or -redefining title, everything that moved the industry forward has all been small-time indie stuff.

              That's the part I was responding to

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I still stand by my statement. Elden Ring is a great game, but its massive success is due entirely to the massive success of Dark Souls (and having Martin's name attached to it), which is not a AAA game. Fromsoftware was (still is) an indie studio at the time. The Witcher 3 didn't revolutionize anything, considering it's essentially just The Witcher 2 with a bit more polish, which is definitely not a AAA game.
                So, again - I stand by my statement. Everything that has been a runaway hit or genre-defining/redefining has come from the indie side of the industry since 2010. No AAA game company has made anything remotely close to the traction that indie games have pulled for over a decade now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Fromsoftware was (still is) an indie studio at the time
                You're retarded.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            3
            >Polish
            >AAA
            Pick one

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              CD Projekt Red has a market cap of 2.97 billion. Ubisoft is 3.19 billion.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So? Wealth is not the same as quality.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Quality has no bearing on whether something is AAA or not, it's purely a measure of budget

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The term "AAA Games" is a classification used within the video gaming industry to signify high-budget, high-profile games that are typically produced and distributed by large, well-known publishers.
                The only measure of a a game being AAA is wealth. Witcher 3 had budget of 81 million, that's well in the scope of a AAA game.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Like, are you going to tell me that Elden Ring wasn't a run-away hit
            By every metric that matters, it's an inferior retread of Dark Souls and the sales will bear this out going forward.

            >or the Witcher 3 wasn't a genre-redefining title?
            Are you attempting to imply that it was?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I couldn’t bring myself to finish it, it was honestly just DS3 with new weapon arts and worse magiv

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >By every metric that matters, it's an inferior retread of Dark Souls and the sales will bear this out going forward.
              hasn't it already beaten the combined total sales of DS and Sekiro since their release, with its first year alone?

              Just how much copium are you smoking anon?

              >every metric that matters
              that's just a fancy way of saying "in my opinion" while pretending it's not opinion.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't bother with him
                He's insane and derailing the thread

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The difference between this and videogames is that videogame mtx don’t disturb the core product (the game). Who the fuck is going to spend $30 a month to throw out the only appeal TTRPGs have over video games (making your own stuff)?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude, no it won't the reason it will not is because everyone will tell players that use an AI dm to go fuck themselves. Noone will accept characters run with ai dms. I know I'd tell any player at my table, virtual or real, to go pound sand if they want to use a pc that's been administered to by a ai dm. End of story. All AI touched characters will be anathema and all players that use it will be banned. end of story.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Everything will become like this, soon you won't be able to heat your car seats without paying in the subscription economy. They're celebrating it in Davos right now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The worse part is people can't go 3 months without giving something up to send a message. I remember just one week boycotts put entire holes into corporations.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yay capitalism!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is a little more then "muh capitalism" especially considering lobbyists, government and NGO funding and law interference is a thing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >that video

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          literal state backed corps are not capitalist anon.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This isn't inherent to capitalism, just good old fashioned greed and shortsightedness

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Greed is inherent to Capitalism.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Greed isn't exclusive to just wealth

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just ignore material conditions bro!

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wanting to make money isn't greed
              Wanting to make ALL THE MONEY with no regard for the consequences of your actions is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And option 2 is Capitalism. That’s just what it is.

                WotC is trying to tear down the entire TTRPG environment for the sake of their capital holders. They don’t give a shit about the game, communities, players, just showing growth to raise stock prices and pay out dividends.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's not inherently like that
                Nothing about capitalism presupposes greed, the only goal of it is making a profit but has no requirement of seeking an ever increasing profit to the detriment of all involved

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well yes in a perfect world, but just like communism, the moment you introduce the human element, shits gonna get fucked, capitalism just allows for this to an extent

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, the issue isn't actually with the corporations themselves (they are as much victims as everyone else), but with the day trading stockholders constantly trying to inflate the value of the stock they own. This causes corporations to do very unhealthy things to appease people who basically hold their slave collars.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point of Capitalism is to accrue capital. There’s no end point, there’s no “Okay, you’ve made enough.”, there is no win condition. There is no consideration for the wellbeing of your employees or your customers or even the environment. Just get that profit anyway you can. Capitalism makes no moral judgements, it never feels guilt or worry about consequences beyond what might reduce profits.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                People always seem to forget that evil people will make any system evil.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                True, which is why we should use a system that inconveniences them the least!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As if any system is immune to corruption and abuse of those in charge

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Capitalism seems particularly suited for evil people, given the only goal or consideration is profit.

                Dude just walk away lmao, stop consuming.

                Man, I’m trying. I’ve cut way down on the bullshit I used to buy, especially the little useless “collectible” pieces of plastic that do nothing but get covered in dust. I definitely will not be purchasing any WotC products in the future.

                Yes but it is also regulated by the system that is a part of, which does produce points where “ this is enough”, it’s when greed and mental diseases are put in that it grows out of control

                That’s great if the system to control it is working. And sometimes it does, but not in the USA. Maybe if we weren’t sold on the lie “We’re all Capitalists! :D” we’d have more political and social will to reign capitalism in. Instead the smallest criticism of capitalism gets you called a communist by people who get paid $12 an hour at Wal-Mart.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Take a hint and realize the conversation has moved on aspie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Capitalism seems particularly suited for evil people, given the only goal or consideration is profit.
                Cool it with those anti-Semitic remarks.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude just walk away lmao, stop consuming.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes but it is also regulated by the system that is a part of, which does produce points where “ this is enough”, it’s when greed and mental diseases are put in that it grows out of control

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which is why I think improperly valuing the costs of corporate actions and not making them accountable for those costs is the issue.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but that's just a restatement of the basic problem of morality, it's the same 'issue' with thieves and rapists and people who abuse the word "literally".

                Ultimately the problem is that shareholders are never held accountable. Corporations are defined by the need to make more money for their shareholders, that's the holy cause which justifies so much corporate evil, and even in the rare event that you hold a corporation accountable it doesn't touch the shareholders. There's no point at which a corporation's actions are so evil or so illegal that we punish the shareholders. So it's like a one-way filter, profit and power pass through but blame and accountability do not, and you'll find that such devices always lead to great evil and great inefficiency no matter what government system they're part of.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Ultimately the problem is that shareholders are never held accountable.
                This is why fines as a percentage of gross and asset seizure should be more widespread penalties. Also the corporate death penalty -- dissolution of the corporation with all assets disbursed to the victims.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If we had any nuts we would just revoke corporate charters, but all government is calvinball, things are only allowed if people believe they are allowed and nobody believes that we have the right to revoke corporate charters.

                All you actually have to do is confiscate all corporate gains for a single quarter. "Sorry, pfizer shareholders, but you don't make any money today. Consider investing in a less evil company". That's all you'd have to do and the system would sort itself out with no further government involvement.

                The problem with a "corporate death penalty" is that the government must have the power to enforce it, and yet corporations must also have the power to fight it. If there are no checks and balances on the process then it will simply be a tool for bigger corporations to atomize smaller corporations, and if there ARE checks and balances on the process then it won't be very useful, because our government doesn't actually have the legal resources to take on major corporations and win, that's why we aren't enforcing the laws we already have.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If we had any nuts we would just revoke corporate charters
                Isn't that how it worked during the Founding Fathers time in early America?
                You basically had to justify your existence as an organization annually or get forcibly dissolved by the government.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              greed is inherent to the human condition

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No, cooperation is inherent to the human condition. That’s our whole thing. The success story of the human species is being able to work together to accomplish great tasks we could never do solo. Ideally the greedy among us would be kept in line by having to answer personally to each other person our tribe, but our entire social structure has gone so far beyond what we evolved for there’s no often no way to actually make people outside of our immediate family answer for greedy behavior.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is why I believe in the Face Punch Model of Governance -- never empower someone who you can't quickly and realistically find and punch in the mouth. The implicit threat of violence is one of the few things that keeps sociopaths in line.

                I'd love to see a society run by Dunbar's Number, where your polity is ~150 people. You select a person to represent that group to a body of ~150 representatives. They then select a person to represent them all to the next body. Iterate until you've covered everyone. Three layers handles everyone in a society of less than 3.4 million, four goes up to half a bil. At every level every person would know everyone they were representing with some personal familiarity. Both the small, deliberate selection and the removal of large number abstraction should trend toward good governance. Or it'll all logjam / generate a Double Hitler, IDK. We won't find out until we do it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like you'd run into a lot of headaches regarding how people get assigned to the initial groups.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm concerned with how the electors at the absolute top would behave. Because this seems like the lovechild of The Senate and a Pyramid Scheme.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's a point for debate. Geographical, since someone down the block is more 2nd Amendment accountable? Blind assignment to remove any partiality? I'm a fan of federated voluntarism, where you join a group and these groups associate freely. Including a fuck-you option could be a positive, but I don't know how that would operate in relation to the other structures.

                [...]

                At the pinnacle? Yes, you get something like senators likely, but as a first of equals. They're accountable to the micro-senate beneath them, who is accountable to the people who put them there. If you're under 3.4M people, that's it. Under 500M, there's one more layer.

                I don't know if this would hack the human us-them mechanism and transition from persons to labels. Could it be worse than what we have now?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Could it be worse than what we have now?

                Things can always be worse.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Could it be worse than what we have now?
                things rarely ever improve, anon. Things will always get worse by chipping away at what is and isn't acceptable until all you have left is what they want and people will think of that as the "norm" and always has been

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          record harvests comrade!

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Communists don't have a monopoly on criticizing ~~*capitalism*~~

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

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              Seething piggies who resent the wealthy not because of their vile greed, but out of malicious envy. You will not be saved.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There was one group that fought capitalism and it wasn't communism

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know the fascists in Germany wholeheartedly accepted "Corporatism" (which is really what edgy retards on here use to say Capitalism so strangers think they're based) when they came to power, correct?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Syndicalist corporatism isn't "lol corporations control shit"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Fascist corporatism is based on "medieval" corporations, not the modern definition of it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh yeah. Tell me again how the Nazis didn't work with the great German corporations of the time.
                The Nazis weren't anti-capitalists, they just didn't like that anyone other than they themselves had any power, including money.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah. Just because they didn't liquidate anyone with 20 franks to their name doesn't mean they embraced missive international financial control over society.
                I have a lot of criticisms but this was always just butthurt communist propaganda from zines. They were assmad that workers got vacations and radios and cars and public works because that kept workers from revolting.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They were assmad that workers got vacations and radios and cars and public works because that kept workers from revolting.
                Serious questions here:
                1. How long do you think this would have lasted after the war ended

                2. How many workers do you think got these benefits?

                Syndicalist corporatism isn't "lol corporations control shit"

                >I-it's not r-real capitalism!
                Keep squealing piggie

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>They were assmad that workers got vacations and radios and cars and public works because that kept workers from revolting.
                >Serious questions here:
                >1. How long do you think this would have lasted after the war ended
                A long time, based on the economic situation and potential of industrial Germany. The MEFO bill meme is wildly exagerated and not some economic timebomb that some people describe. It was like 7% GDP at it's height and shrinking by 1937, which is frankly a lot better than current day debt issues, on top of a better situation than capitalist countries during the Great Depression. It was mostly just a workaround for various trade issues
                >2. How many workers do you think got these benefits?
                Not sure what you mean by this. The cars were an opt in program, for example

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A long time, based on the economic situation and potential of industrial Germany.
                You means significantly less economic potential than the postwar United States, which cracked down on unions not 3 decades after the war ended?
                >The MEFO bill meme is wildly exagerated and not some economic timebomb that some people describe.
                There it is lmao. I don't know how naive you are that you believe companies wouldn't take advantage of a legal loophole opened for them to exploit profit more and more.
                >Not sure what you mean by this. The cars were an opt in program, for example
                Which workers qualified for those benefits and which did not?

                You sound and talking like a massive gay
                No one fucking cares about your ass communism bullshit you worthless neet
                Keep crying that you don't get shit for free because you don't want to work

                Retard.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God cry about pay pigs on /wfg/

                >r-retard
                Nice argument loser

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon is there even any point in responding to you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you asking me dipshit you should know if there's any point
                Obviously there isn't because you're a worthless gay crying that he can't get shit for free

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I’m not sure what I expected honestly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because you're so caught up with arguing your bullshit to wonder "does anyone actually care about my gay ass polices"
                No, no one does. Go to 4chan to cry about how much your loser ass loves communism

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nah I want you to keep ranting at me while making rash assumptions in bad faith

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Bad faith
                No I telling you to fuck off and have a nice day

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ok what else

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                pathfinder or savage worlds

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Savage worlds if I’m forced to choose, I’d prefer Rifts or Warhammer fantasy frankly

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>I-it's not r-real capitalism!
                >Keep squealing piggie
                It literally isn't' capitalism at all. Syndicalism/Corporatism is anti-capitalist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Corporatism is anti-capitalist
                lol

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound and talking like a massive gay
                No one fucking cares about your ass communism bullshit you worthless neet
                Keep crying that you don't get shit for free because you don't want to work

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                God cry about pay pigs on /wfg/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Syndicalism/Corporatism is anti-capitalist
                This has to be bait or trolling.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                nta
                Corporatism discourages an open market and actively seeks monopoly. Capitalism thrives in an open market since that results in greater innovation. The statement of the original poster is a bit misleading though and I think I've missed something too but it's kind of an apples/oranges comparison from what I understand. Capitalism is the framework of how the market is regulated while corporatism is a mechanism of how the market is interacted with.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Corporatism discourages an open market and actively seeks monopoly. Capitalism thrives in an open market since that results in greater innovation.

                You just made that up. Capitalism is an ideology made up by the 20th-century ruling class in order to take credit for the benefits of market economies and secure consent for their rule. "Open markets", of the sort which lead to healthy market economies, exist only in relative power vacuums and are thus temporary. Your western liberal democracy maintains one such power vacuum, and it is temporary, as "corporatism" readily demonstrates.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your contributions have made this thread worse for everyone

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What an oddly disassociated assertion

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your contributions have made this thread worse for everyone

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are trying to describe a world where capitalists play fair just because.

                Capitalism leads to corporations and monopoly because that’s the best way to maximize gaining capital. Most companies won’t handicap themselves to stay within some boundary of “Ideal Capitalism” and the ones that would get out done by the ones who don’t. Capitalism discards open markets and innovation when monopoly serves gaining capital more effectively.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Well look who it is. I wonder how he found his way into a /tg/ thread.

                Chemistry is Not the Science: Rudolph, Rhetoric, and Reduction
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                The Chemistry of Auschwitz
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                Leutcher, Rudolph, & the Iron Blues
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            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              where theres smoke theres fire.
              >piggies
              thats a strange way to spell garden gnomes.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            literal state backed corps are not capitalist anon.

            This isn't inherent to capitalism, just good old fashioned greed and shortsightedness

            This is a little more then "muh capitalism" especially considering lobbyists, government and NGO funding and law interference is a thing.

            Seething piggies who resent the wealthy not because of their vile greed, but out of malicious envy. You will not be saved.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Wow that's neat and all anon
              But are you ever gonna move out of your parents basement?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We are both posting here. Do you think this is an own?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I genuinely can't tell if this is aimed at angry rightoids or communists.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          We know this is a commie dog whistle, and we know communism ends with the middle class being put in camps while the kind of oligarchs who fund Hasbro sit pretty. You’re really not fooling anyone.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hahahaha you dipshit. Yeah, sure, Corporations turning everything into microtransaction and subscriptions is definitely a commie plot and not capitalism moving money back into the wealthy’s pockets.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            record harvests comrade!

            This isn't inherent to capitalism, just good old fashioned greed and shortsightedness

            literal state backed corps are not capitalist anon.

            This is a little more then "muh capitalism" especially considering lobbyists, government and NGO funding and law interference is a thing.

            cucks coping and seething. capitalism is going to destroy everything you love in the next fifty years and you eager little doggies will fellate it the whole time.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >This is the end of Dungeons & Dragons, at least for me and people like me
      People said the same about 5e...
      ...and 4e...
      ...and every e actually...

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >twitter screenshot
    >(you)tube link
    yeah alright gay

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Where’s the salt? You have to sprinkle a metric tonne of salt on top of everything this clout-chaser says

      I don't give a shit who says a thing if that thing is important to know. By tomorrow afternoon, this news will be everywhere.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the OGL 1.2 was leaked and became true, so it's not too far fetch

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Where’s the salt? You have to sprinkle a metric tonne of salt on top of everything this clout-chaser says

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Roll for combat confirms. and he posted a pic on this months ago see here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIfV9qaXHlE&t=6s

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >These changes are what wizards has planned
    What fucking changes? You gave us half the information

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Subscription tiers up to $30 a month, and AI chatbots to run the game for DM-less groups.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Who the fuck has ever paid even a dime to play D&D?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I have back in the day going to conventions but the DM's weren't getting payed and were doing it because they enjoyed it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lots of people can only play online, and D&D Beyond is a centralized digital D&D rules and character sheet library.

          It honestly would be such a big deal ( a good thing, even) if Hasbro wasn't being so damned greedy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            wrong

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          5e players for the last 3-5 years, since there are about 10 players for every DM.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Oh that’s hilarious. I can’t wait for the comedy that will come from how the AI works after just a few posts, because AI chat bots can go off the rails very quickly in hilarious ways.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >AI chatbots to run the game for DM-less groups
        From the company that can't even program a website right.
        Never gonna happen. Definitely a pipe dream of "This thing is popular now! If we say we'll do it people will sign up!"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          also remember that ai dungeon thing? after few months every other character wanted to rape you or slice your throat

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That should make us all wary of what AI will do to us once they evolve past making shitty art with too many fingers and writing text.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      here

      Subscription tiers up to $30 a month, and AI chatbots to run the game for DM-less groups.

      also deauthorized OGL 1.0a and no homebrew at base tier

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how would banning homebrew for certain tiers work for groups of mixed tiers? I guess You'll all have to upgrade tiers. Unless 'homebrew' means pay-to-win classes and items

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How would banning homebrew work at all?

          Are they going to police every group to make sure they play WOTC adventure?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Are they going to police every group to make sure they play WOTC adventure?
            You will get special dice and a special armor for your mini based on how many people you report

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It would only apply to their VTT.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Ai chatbots could be set up to only use default WOTC content. Adding your own for it to use could be put behind a paywall.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Paying 30 bucks a month for shitty improve on top of other microtransactions
        Not even other MMO's charge you for this month and they got servers to run.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Wait...
        Between Adventurer's League, AI DMs, and a centralized VTT maybe WotC is trying to make some pseudo-mmo.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Another shit D&D MMO?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wouldn't be the first time

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They took the worst of Korean MMO monetization practices and put them into an IRL product.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I count on whatever small project/studio to make AI-DMs happen before WotC does. It's definitely the next big thing in P&P (and vidya) to draw in another huge chunk of players imho. Going with a stripped down version isn't ambitious enough though.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    can i preorder the AI DM

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s official am playing pathfinder now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just D&D.

      Who the fuck has ever paid even a dime to play D&D?

      Before you were born PDFs didn't exist.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but xerox

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    40% STOCK DROP YEAR OVER YEAR
    BACK TO BACK YEARS BABYYYYYY

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Easiest short of my life

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >8 minute video
    >to reiterate everything we already know and can clearly read in the tweets that the video is reading from
    >from some autistic flailing nobody who makes D&D youtube videos
    Thanks for wasting my time.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I thought they couldnt get lazier after their latest publications but literally just having a chatbot create games is pathetic. Why cant they just make adventures worth buying?

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As bullshit as all of this is, it isn't going to kill Wotc isn't it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Compagnies of their size and relevance usualy slowly slide into obscurity and ends up being bought by another compagny that merge them with one of their pre existing department. Thats basicaly what happened to many video game studio.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It already happened to WOTC when Hasbro bought them out. This is the new WOTC (about as bad as the 2000s WOTC) and when this flops it'll just be them backtracking. The real damage to the brand is already done. Just like when they gutted OGL for 4e all this does is empower the competition.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >$30 a month for an AI to shit out a trash adventure
    At this point why not just play an MMO?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >content drops
    Of what? It's a game of pretend. You can't enforce scarcity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >You can't enforce scarcity.
      Ganker fag here. Nintendo did exactly that with the digital release of super mario sunshine and how a lot of online games have events where you can only unlock certain things during certain limited events

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ok.
        But while you can't say "you have a magic sword of executive slaying" in vidya without the devs making it first, in rpgs you just need the dm to day it and it exists.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then it wouldn't be official and you can't carry it to other games, assuming another player doesn't rat you out for breaking the rules of homebrewing and assuming there isn't sanctioned DM's or AI DM's.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you can't carry it to other games,
            >assuming another player doesn't rat you out for breaking the rules of homebrewing
            Have you ever played a TTRPG?
            Ever?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Have you?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you not know how table top campaigns work?

              >Not bursting into strangers' houses as they're playing 7e DnD, smacking down your 2e character sheet, and taking over the campaign.
              Sounds like your guys never really played

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Guerilla OSR. I like it. I'm here for it. Going to go google how the fuck THAC0 works and get some lock picks and bolt cutters.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Going to go google how the fuck THAC0 works
                You FOOL! It's literally subtraction.
                >THAC0 - AC = to hit
                The THAC0 is dependent on your class and gets lower as it improves
                The AC is your opponent's. This also gets lower as it improves
                The to hit is the number (or greater) you roll on a d20.
                It's your DM's job to tell you if you hit or not since you're not usually privy to the enemy's AC.

                Ignore attack matrices because they are cumbersome and unnecessary. The above sum matches the progression of the attack matrix.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Mfs acting like Thaco and all the charts in AD&D 1-2e where super confusing. What's really stupid was tying everything from sword swings, stealth and throwing fireballs to a single dice mechanic like WotC did for 3e.... I wanna go back to arcane charts and different math for everything.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                THAC0 is your target number. If D20+mods+AC>THAC0, you hit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You might have missed that D&D 6 is going to run on a proprietary Virtual Table only with D&D beyond being the only source for content.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Do you not know how table top campaigns work?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here's a shocking idea, anon - don't play D&D in their walled garden, and then you can do whatever you want.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's a huge difference between a video game on a proprietary system and a pdf that anyone can share.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          O anon, they are making it a videogame with server for player and AI DMs.

          You'll log into your account, click ''search game'' and a list of adventure will be displayed. You'll select an adventure and then a character or create one (You will have to pay for slots in your stable). You'll also probably have a limited amount of playable game per day/week/month. Upgradable of course. Submitting/DMing your own shit will also only be available for higher tier. The plebes will have to do with a chatbot and the beginning adventure.

          You'll play with a Ai chatbot DM, and at the end you'll get random loot. You probably be able to reroll loot with a purchasable token. Items will be carefully balanced with rarity in mind the same way MTG cards are balanced. Pay more for the CHANCE to get better shit.

          I wouldnt be surprised if they'd put lootboxes in the game.

          Reviving your character will cost irl money and healing him will also do, unless you are willing to wait a certain amount of time between adventure. YOU 'll also be able to buy booster and skin for your avatar ingame.

          Each month you'll have tip and tricks for the newest release given to you so you can get ahead.

          Its probably going to be closer to a MMORPG than what we know now.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            lol
            This is the kind of thing you tell VCs to scam them out of money
            It's not real, and sorry if you believe that it is and didn't just make it up

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Screencaping this one for future laughing and crying at the same time.

              It probably wont be that extreme, but I just dont see how they'll monetize DnD in any other reasonable way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >It probably wont be that extreme, but I just dont see how they'll monetize DnD in any other reasonable way.
                By charging a monthly fee for character gen, by selling a constant supply of secondary content for small amounts of money, and by taking a cut/charging a licensing fee for all third party properties.
                What you said was just stupid.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That would be ridiculous since they all tried that in the past and it failed miserably. The main people who are on this come from the videogame sector.

                Also theyM'll sell skin for your dice and some emote. MTG arena will probably be the blueprint for this shit. I wouldnt be surpirse if you had skin for you character sheet.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Screencaping this one for future laughing and crying at the same time.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean, I don't see how they are going to make their AI smart, there are already ones handling AI text adventures and they can't do well with more than like two characters talking at once.

            I will say though, a D&D AI trained on the collective knowledge of all the D&D texts since the beginning would be an amazing tool for DMing. You could just ask it about any piece of lore and it would conform it to your game or find an adventure suitable for your group.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They already made a tabletob game with DM less dungeon delving and I assume taht the early iteration will be for that, kick door, kill monster, loot the room then go to the next room.

              More complicated and intricate adventure requiring a human DM will be for higher tier subs.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly, I mean that'd be fun, but it's also already handled by other games (like Barony).

                I do think an AI assistant would be very nice. I already heavily use ChatGPT and NovelAI for my game planning and lore writing. Something geared explicitly to RPG games would be very convenient.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I think that its going to be the shameless amount of monetization that will be bad not the product in itself

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats what theyre going for it would seems. Homebrewing is something only higher tier subs will be able to engage in.

        Do you guys only run wotc made adventures?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No never and thats the point. From their perspective they dont make much money out of homebrew so now you'll have to pay to play your own shit in their centralized application.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thats what theyre going for it would seems. Homebrewing is something only higher tier subs will be able to engage in.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Thank god I play other Table top games.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >twatter
    >youtube

    how about you post a credible source you obese chud chud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >chud chud
      Anon i think you have official are suffering from brain rot with how much you shitpost on Ganker

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >have official

        fuck off back to Mexico you yuropoor muslim chud anti-semite

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >yuropoor muslim chud anti-semite
          Speak English

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://twitter.com/DnD_Shorts/status/1615134661419896832

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People can doom talk all they want but WOTC literally do not have any power to do what they want to do. They can't enforce any of it, they can't make you pay money, it will only encourage pirating books for the lay person. None of this will matter to anyone but them because they're screwing their name too much.

    Regardless of this people will play what edition they want how they want and if WOTC wants to try to squeeze money out of them it will fail.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They can enforce it the same way Blizzard can close private server, which any other VTT that allow DnD to be played will become once WOTC rolls out theirs. The new OGL is specifically designed for that.

      They wont be able to force you to do thing in paper format but thats not the point. In fact I wouldnt be surprised if they let paper alone and only enforce restriction on VTT platforms.

      Basically if you wanna play online you have to go trough them. And they can seize anything in order to make it available on their platform if its popular enough.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder when they'll strong arm Roll20 into it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The new OGL is specifically designed for that.
        And if the VTT doesn't sign?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Then they can't use D&D content and will be told they have 30 days to purge it, or be taken to court.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm starting to think a lot of people are full of shit with all these leaks, just because it's starting to make the people at Hasbro sound genuinely fucking insane. Like I can get them being greedy fucking shits, but there has to be a limit to retardation.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there has to be a limit to retardation.
      You say this while browsing this site

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Like I can get them being greedy fucking shits, but there has to be a limit to retardation.

      There isn’t. This is what happens when people who should be selling widgets take over companies with that need an community to sell to. They go insane.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WOTC has been trying to implement their VTT since 4e.

      What makes me fear the worst (in an its going to be hilariously bad kind of way) is that msot of their higher up are from the videogame sector. So I posit that the only way those kind of people will want to monetize it is to turn the VTT into a MMORPG -lite. But with a table and figurine for graphics. The figurines alone will probably be the focus of their monetization schemes but we'll see.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Before Cynthia Williams spent her time at Microsoft on the exploitative tool that is microtransactions, what do you think her day job was? Surprise, she worked for tobacco company Phillip Morris! The same Phillip Morris that has been documented (in internal notes from their own meetings) calling their customers "marks" and "suckers. The suits genuinely don't understand their product. They think we're paypigs. They think it's something like vidya, where people buy it or they don't and they occasionally hook a whale. Don't like it? There's the fucking door. In the meantime, pay us. That makes the whole thing worthwhile in a very VC view of the world. Yes, you really can be this stupid with an MBA from HBS or the Chicago School. They teach quarter-over-quarter line goes up at all costs, not how to steward an IP for potential future decades. That's Tomorrow CEO's problem.

      They don't understand that at its root, role-playing is a collaborative enterprise. It is dependent on network effects. Alienating a customer isn't one less sub, it's less engagement for everyone else that was playing. If that customer was a DM, that's a whole table that just went poof, doubly so if they took their group and fucked off to a system that doesn't actively hate them. Fewer groups, fewer players, less opportunity, less engagement. Congrats, you shrank your income and market share.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The very fact that every rule book exists in pdf form means ill never pay these fucks a cent

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The more I hear about this woman the more convinced I am this is some kind of Unknown Armies table's villainess brought to life.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Reality is stranger than fiction and Dey’s Ex was right

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I follow the development of Exalted because of deepseated sunk cost fallacy. A game that, up until WotR went full retard, I was sincerely convinced was worse managed than D&D.

      Between the sexual misconduct and the YEAR LONG delay of that damn game I can absolutely believe suits with too much money can be this retarded.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What went wrong with Wrath of the Righteous?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Three years ago you'd never hear the words come from my mouth, but thank God for Holden and ExVsWoD and Exalted Demake.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    First things first. Is this a chud?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/qz4Q0W6.png

      Get in here, anons. This is madness.

      I wonder that too. It was my first instinct, but it could "pass" for a very ugly woman with an annoying voice.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Still playing B/X.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good on you!
      And pray, how is that relevant for this thread?

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If it really does have an AI DM I'll pay for it. It's basically a video game now.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dear anon you have no idea.

      ERP will explode unless they have a very agressive content moderation algorythm

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the company already pushes alphabet crap and have a track record as far as covering for chomos goes

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          NSA doesn't give a fuck about what happens in roleplaying games. You aren't important enough to be spied on by the alphabet men.
          Shut down your computer and go look at the real world for a while.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He's not talking about that kinda of alphabet.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >retarded
            >bot
            >ESL
            >all of the above

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Again you cant put a bunch of randos together in a role playing game without some form of moderation.

          Then again MTGO filtered the word asshole and not assholes so we'll see.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They already try to push a subscription service back in the 3.5 days.
    What's new?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thirty dollars per minute is absolutely outrageous for an AI when you can get a whore for less

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Come Home White Piggu

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I refuse to play a game that allows my opponent to win before I even get a turn

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If it's a collector item what exactly is the problem?
      Collector items are supposed to be expensive like garden gnomeelry is supposed to be expensive, being expensive is the point because it means exclusivity which is what someone who buys a collector item seeks

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        $1000 card packs is insane no matter how you justify it. It's cardboard.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chances are the AI will either suck on release or start off decent and then get lobotomized in an overzealous effort to curb undesired content.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is ridiculous, these ex-Microsoft execs lost their fucking minds.
    All of this hinges on killing OGL 1.0a though, Paizo and a few smaller publishers promised to fight it but who knows how a legal battle will go.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >how a legal battle will go.
      Poorly, Hasbro owns very little of themselves and pays a fortune (relative to their size, be around 330 million) in Dividends to shareholders yearly as a result. IE a billion every three years. They can try to bully creators but they'll still need to successfully monetize a system that doesn't involve pushing people away from their products.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All of this hinges on killing OGL 1.0a though,
      Given there are people using the document for things that aren't D&D related at all, I don't see how they can manage that one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >All of this hinges on killing OGL 1.0a though

      Unfortunately it looks like main thrust here isn't related to the OGL, but to bringing D&D into the virtual world and charging you to be there. They're going to do that regardless of what happens with the OGL.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you keep posting these attentionwhore dramaqueens?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s funny to watch people take Ganker seriously

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I pray for office violence for WotC and Hasbro.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >There's a massive DM/Player ratio disparity
    >DMs are the whales who buy most of the stuff
    >Rather than try to appeal to DMs, WotC decides the best idea is to kill off DMs with AI and try to milk everyone else even harder with subs
    Don't they realize if they piss of the DMs, the DMs will take their players to a different system?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well theoretically if there's 4-6 players for each DM, and each DM spends maybe $500 on the game then stops buying content, if they got even a third of players to buy that $30/month sub they'd make a lot more money. The problem is, nobody wants an AI DM because that shit is retarded, might as well just play Divinity or something.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ai isn’t even good enough to DM, at least it wasn’t a year ago has there been some major developments in AI to make it worth it or is this just an extension of the AI dungeon fad?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The latest chat AI is better than just a couple years ago but most likely it will be more like an on-rails adventure at first.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I can read a book or just play a vidya James if I want basic on the rails fantasy. Admittedly the masses also have extremely low expectations and shit taste so I can see the 5e tards eating this up no problem.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It may be able to do an on rails dungeon crawl, with the skill and originality of a 13 year old who's never played and the stiffness and rules lawyering of a 60 year old who has 100 pages of charts printed out to check if each and every action you do is 100% RAW legal. Even then I don't really think it would do it very well, it could probably be outdone by just a regular bot, without the AI

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Then this is just another caseof old men not understanding what they’re doing with a thing, nothing new

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a very strong assumption you'll get 1/3 players who've gotten by spending nothing/next to nothing to buy a subscription.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i mean, if they're playing in person, that would be a problem. but i think they're betting big on the digital TTRPG space, and trying to remove DMs entirely. If they can pull it off, thats alot of potential micro transactions that can propel them to moblie tier profits

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The whole point of me playing ttrpgs aside from the fact that I actually do enjoy it, is to get my misanthropic ass to interact with people, by puting in an AI it almost completely defeats the purpose

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          for you, sure, but the hobby is changing (for the worse). they don't want you as a customer, they want new customers thats willing to pay for a DM

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I pitty the next few generations, even social interaction on a base level will be monetized

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Admittedly I haven’t purchased...anything dnd related ever, so if dnd wants to turn into a hyper conceited pay to play shit pile, go ahead

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's pretty much what I've done since 5e came out. I haven't bought a book new since the early 4e days and I go out of my way to not give companies that hate me or turn out subpar products money. If more people where like me earlier we'd be toasting the death of WotC 5+ years ago and getting information on the next edition of the game being made by whatever company buys the IP.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Assuming the Players in question have a group to DM them. The biggest stumbling block towards tabletop roleplaying has ever been a paucity of DMs compared to players.
      Not that I support any of this insanity as a solution.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only money i am giving Wotc is for a bunch of print on demand books. ill get my old books while i can before they pull the rug out under DTRPG

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was thinking the same thing. What could they actually pull aside from D&D stuff, though?

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fun fact, game rules cannot by copyrighted and there's legal precedent for it. If you go through a 5e book and try to pick out what WOTC can claim to own it comes out to surprisingly little. They can't own the fantasy races or most fictional things in books because those and even most spells aren't unique to DnD. They can't own the rules. What's left besides the art for them to claim? DnD is so unoriginal and vague that no one can actually claim intellectual property for any of it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The costs of fighting a large corporation in court for years could still destroy your business and fuck up your life even if you won the end. They're banking on fear more than legal victory.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hasbro ironically isn't very large. Their revenue per year is roughly 1 billion less than Gamestop's (6.01 to 5.1 billion). Hasbro also has to pay a retarded amount out in dividends each year. They can get into fruitless lawsuits but non of them will help their financial situation.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wish they would just sink and i would trip over money briefcases so I could buy off their IPs when they die.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they aren't big enough to be able to do that. They're too legally vulnerable. They'd lose out even worse trying.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Former Microsoft executives think ever corporation works like Microsoft and can bully any industry into a walled garden with subscriptions.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            they can think crazy shit but they have no power to control anything really.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Well that's why plenty of corporations run by former Microsoft executives go under after some years.

              >All of this hinges on killing OGL 1.0a though

              Unfortunately it looks like main thrust here isn't related to the OGL, but to bringing D&D into the virtual world and charging you to be there. They're going to do that regardless of what happens with the OGL.

              Their walled garden won't be fully walled with 1.0a living.
              They want digital DnD, no more printing because the margins are too slim.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's just so silly because they're literally just reinventing videogames from the ground up.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Their walled garden won't be fully walled with 1.0a living.

                I mean, the worst-case-scenario that D&D is entering right now is that they just have to license D&DOne under something else instead of the OGL, just like they did with 4e. Obviously 4e was a financial disaster but I could gesture at random to any decision Hasbro is making right now and they're all financial disasters, it's not like they have a lot of good options here.

                I can't see them releasing D&DOne under 1.0, there's just no way that's happening. Their whole plan relies on their VTT being the only place to play the game and then charging monthly for access to it. They already had to back away from "updating" 1.0 to exclude VTTs, so I don't see any other option for them. They're gonna have to make a new license for D&DOne or their whole model is going to fall apart. The downside, of course, is that the last time they tried that was 4e and that was a fucking catastrophe.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They won't stop trying to "update" the OGL, they will just reword it in such a way that people get confused about it and think that VTT are fine, when really they aren't. Also, remember that they will likely keep the clause in that they can "update" the OGL at any time. They think we have memories of goldfish. That as soon as we turn our back, they can just start up plans again. Once a year goes by, the OGL goes up to 2.1. They say it will just be a minor update, but they will just remove the protections that VTT had and now One D&D launches with WotC telling every other VTT to get rid of their D&D content "Or else".
                Even if there were people that were keeping D&D on their VTT, people are fed up with WotC and are getting rid of it anyway. WotC will just use the opportunity to try to play the hero.
                >Look guys, all of the VTT you use to use for D&D got rid of it, because they are big mean do do heads. We have a new VTT, it even has a virtual DM for you, so you and all of your friends can just play games instead of having to play as the NPCs. Isn't this the greatest? It's only 30 bucks a month, which is FAR cheaper than paying those "Pro" DMs 10 bucks a session, our AI DM can't get tired, throw a fit, or leave. You could run through an entire campaign in a month for only 30 bucks, while a human DM would cost 10x that amount in the long run. Also, just think of how much you will save in gas, supplies and food. Join us, it's the only smart move

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There are two main thought patterns that could be going through WOTC's head in regards to how to proceed with the OGL situation.

                1 is they could be dedicated to their course of destroying, "deauthorizing" and stopping the OGL 1.0a in it's tracks. It's a matter of "taking back their IP" and gaining complete control over D&D, the D20 System, and any derived system. They either still think they can fully get their way by force/intimidation, or consider it an absolute necessity and willing to accept the risks of going to and losing in court because they think it'll be worth it if they win. Several insiders claim this is what they're thinking.

                The alternative would be that WOTC has Lawyers who actually are counseling the company against this knowing their case is based on a loophole and weasel workds and the Industry has laweyered up, done research, has witnesses, records, and WOTC's past statements ready to use against them and they'll likely lose, and WOTC's execs are smart enough not to crash the company into court battles they're going to lose. In which case we'll see them ultimately adopt a something more akin to GSL where they try to trick get people to sign away the right to use the OGL 1.0a in favor of publishing for their current system. This obviously did not work during 4e, and likely wouldn't work now.

                While it's tempting, hopeful and somewhat logical to favor the later, WOTC may very well be stupid or in their twisted world view be dedicated to the former. In any case, it's best to always assume and prepare for the worst.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            She even came from the project that proved Microsoft couldn't (Mixer).

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >What's left besides the art for them to claim?
      The longest standing argument is that the presentation of the rules is still creative expression and if the new rules aren't far enough removed from the copyright you are creating a derivative work. The only way we're going to know is when someone steps up and challenges it.
      If WotC is focusing on digital media and trademark this is probably the opportunity for derivative works to enter physical space unchallenged and then it's game over because I think once the first derivation goes unchallenged everything after that is home free. We might already be there in some cases. I think the right to challenge on the basis of copyright has a relatively narrow window.

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OSR brothers we are eating good tonight. This a direct result of woke capitalism and you all deserve it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >woke
      >blatant exploitation
      Can't tell if you're using this ironically, classic ironically, or you're gb2/pol/.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >NOOO YOU CAN'T HECKIN PUT TOGETHER WOKE WITH CAPITALISM!!!
        Lmao, cope and seethe woketard capitalist.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ~~*capitalism*~~ and ~~*communism*~~ are the same thing. Communism is just the end result of every other company being put out of business, such that there is no difference.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh good, option #3.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OSRchads I kneel.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Grognards would rejoice
      if we weren't too busy not caring about nuWotc

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I tried ai dungeon a few weeks ago just to try it out.
    It's still really fucking ass.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They could do a $100 tier where they send you licensed dragon dildos every month, it doesn't matter to me. Although it might get OP to subscribe.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Reagan bros
    When does it start trickling down?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ~~*reagan*~~

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lemme ban yer guns Reagan

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >massive wealth distribution to 1% over last 2 years
      >directly as a result of government disrupting the market and favoring the largest corporations over smaller ones, all in the name of 'public health'
      DURR HOW COULD REAGAN DO THIS?!

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >AI dms
    >eternal hasgarden gnome
    are these people retarded? the appeal of D&D in the beginning is to be provided an adventure experience that is personalized but an AI straight up cant do that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s almost like the ones in charge of this shit are completely detached from reality

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Former Microsoft executives usually are.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      an AI GM is just a video game. They're reinventing video games from scratch. An AI GM is just a roguelike rpg dungeon crawl.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Or a procedurally generated dungeon crawler, like Infinite Dungeons for NWN.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With Microtransactions. If you told me Wizards was going to do this back in 2011, I'd have called you a crazy person. I'm not entirely convinced this isn't me having some kind of post-Holiday nervous breakdown. Hope not, I wanna be sane for my brother's alledged wedding this year, maybe help my niece learn how to walk.

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking knew it.

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does this mean people will finally try not playing DnD?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they'll just play "not-dnd" which isn't dnd in the same way that not-europe in your fantasy game isn't europe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        correct, because its europe (japan)

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's like someone's infiltrated the executive board and is manipulating them all into killing DnD.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering there are for hire DMs
    I'm not surprised

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't this virtually identical to a confirmed hoax 'leak' from last year?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems like calling it a hoax was to cover someone's ass.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        IIRC the guy who did the mockup 'leaks' got called out and then copped to it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We're just living through the joking doomposts of yesteryear. Imagine going back to 2018 and telling people there would be Fortnite and Post Malone MtG cards in the near future. Or really telling them anything about the last 5 years of Magic.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >ai dm
    If its anything like that character rp thing from a little while back I'll be having a based ERP campaign

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Knowing Hasbro, fun will strictly be prohibited.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Try to ask the AI DM if you can strip search the NPC to try to find the hidden note they had
        >AI DM instantly shuts the game off and reports you for trying to rape a character
        >Your account is banned, no chance for appeal
        >WotC still charges you for the next month renewel, when you call, they tell you to unsubscribe
        >Website won't let you off of the banned page to unsubscribe
        >Person on phone tells you it is a glitch and you should just wait and try again
        >Forget about it because you were so mad and get charged another 30 bucks. Try to do it again and still can't, get the run around. Tell them to do it over the phone instead. They say they can't, because they can't confirm the person calling owns the account. Have a nice day.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No way they allow for any kind of lewdness. Imagine the whiny shitstorm if it ever generated an unwanted sexual interaction, even something as mild as a bard staring at a PC's tits would set people off.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does this affect normal people. Who aren't trying to make money off of it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Less or no third party content available for you to use.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Is this just for 5e

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They're trying to make it retroactive for everything released under the OGL.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They can't copyright Rules so how exactly do they plan on doing this

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Part of the confusion, or how they expect such a lawsuit to go as even if they have the right there was officially released statements from WotC when and around the release of the OGL that contradicts that.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What statements did they make?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Q: Can't Wizards of the Coast change the License in a way that I wouldn't like?
                >A: Yes, it could. However, the License already defines what will happen to content that has been previously distributed using an earlier version, in Section 9. As a result, even if Wizards made a change you disagreed with, you could continue to use an earlier, acceptable version at your option. In other words, there's no reason for Wizards to ever make a change that the community of people using the Open Gaming License would object to, because the community would just ignore the change anyway.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For reference.
                https://opengamingfoundation.org/ogl.html

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Q: Can't Wizards of the Coast change the License in a way that I wouldn't like?
                >A: Yes, it could. However, the License already defines what will happen to content that has been previously distributed using an earlier version, in Section 9. As a result, even if Wizards made a change you disagreed with, you could continue to use an earlier, acceptable version at your option. In other words, there's no reason for Wizards to ever make a change that the community of people using the Open Gaming License would object to, because the community would just ignore the change anyway.

                They think they can fear monger people into complying. If it goes to court, they can just bully the small guys into giving up because legal fees and civil cases working differently than criminal cases. It is honestly pretty bullshit.
                [...]
                They probably did.
                >Oh, for the "little" guy, these changes don't matter. Even if they read it, they won't care.
                >For businesses like Paizo though, they will HAVE to sign. They can't BUT sign. They know we have them by the balls, their entire game relies on the OGL and our SRD. If they are gone, Pathfinder doesn't exist
                Shit goes down
                >Wait, what do you mean you aren't signing it? 25% too much? We can go lower! But if you don't sign, you have no game. What do you mean you don't think so? We will sue you, you use our game mechanics. What do you mean you can't copyright game mechanics, you can if it is written specifically in our style. Wait, you specifically stopped doing descriptions in our style just in case we did this? No, you HAVE to give us money. No one has even heard of Pathfinder, they just think it's D&D. YOU NEED US

                thanks

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Part of the confusion, or how they expect such a lawsuit to go as even if they have the right there was officially released statements from WotC when and around the release of the OGL that contradicts that.

              >right as there were
              Should mention the main theory is that they really did think people would sign the new OGL and not paid attention.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They think they can fear monger people into complying. If it goes to court, they can just bully the small guys into giving up because legal fees and civil cases working differently than criminal cases. It is honestly pretty bullshit.

              [...]
              >right as there were
              Should mention the main theory is that they really did think people would sign the new OGL and not paid attention.

              They probably did.
              >Oh, for the "little" guy, these changes don't matter. Even if they read it, they won't care.
              >For businesses like Paizo though, they will HAVE to sign. They can't BUT sign. They know we have them by the balls, their entire game relies on the OGL and our SRD. If they are gone, Pathfinder doesn't exist
              Shit goes down
              >Wait, what do you mean you aren't signing it? 25% too much? We can go lower! But if you don't sign, you have no game. What do you mean you don't think so? We will sue you, you use our game mechanics. What do you mean you can't copyright game mechanics, you can if it is written specifically in our style. Wait, you specifically stopped doing descriptions in our style just in case we did this? No, you HAVE to give us money. No one has even heard of Pathfinder, they just think it's D&D. YOU NEED US

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like I said before I play GURPS. Nothing WoTC does can make my life even shittier than playing GURPS does.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if i find this plan bizzare, its a good thing. No one is going to pay 30 bucks for a hobby thats esentialy free. Lazies were willing to go for DnD beyond but its ubelievably clanky and poorly made.
    I for one welcome our group moving from DnD

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unfortunately, they only need a 10th of their current user base to buy into it for it to be considered a success. Imagine your user base going from 750k people, down to 75k and it is still successful. Hell, they could probably go down to 10k and it would still be good. $30 every month, 300k. They would need to bleed down to only hundreds for them to freak out. Imagine a company, that has a potential million user base and they absolutely fail to do anything with it. How fucking stupid you have to be. If I was an investor, I would be stirring so much shit. I would be telling them.
      >You had potential for Plushies, minis, comic books, novels. Let alone anything directly tied to the game itself. Maps for battles. You could have sold maps for every campaign at 40 bucks. Imagine "Deluxe" campaign books, where you get a set of minis (not enough for the whole campaign, but just the first 2 chapters), all the maps the game needs to run and audio files for some NPC conversations, 150 bucks. We could have full mini sets and "upgrade" sets for campaigns. 300 bucks for full, 200 for upgrade. This is fucking Hasbro, our sales of Transformers are down, repurpose all those plastic model factories and put them all into D&D. Make our brand, what people think of when playing D&D.
      Yet they couldn't even monetize it correctly. They wanted to go as minimal effort as possible. They wanted the subscription model and that doesn't work for a hobby like this, where you might go a year without playing a game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They get way more than that. People nowadays are like goldfish. Give them a couple of weeks and they will pay WoTC just as much as they pay GW or Apple no matter how shitty they act.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          bullshit Warhammer scene is almost dead in comparsion to 10 years ago. People consume the lore and secondary products, but board game is fucked

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most Warhammer Cultist doesn't play they buy miniature that they don't paint despite buying the paint. This is how they were indoctrinated into the cult.
            Soon we will pay GW, Hasbro, or Apple for nothing. We will give them money just because they thought we own them so for existing.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Scene has never been stronger at my LGS. There are even 20+ people who play AOS regularly.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              strange. 4 out of 5 GS here colapsed and the 5th one stopped with any GW product tournaments. Its all MTG

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Doomers like you say this shit and conveniently ignore that when they tried this with 4E the game flopped hard and they came back within a couple of years trying to buy back goodwill.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            4e was a long time ago. The US alone isn't even the same country anymore.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Honestly at this point my question is: will they be able to keep the whales through the pressures of maintaining a D&D group at all? Lots of people can't find games to join that they like and lots more can't really get stable campaigns going. Those problems are only going to be exacerbated by a system with a smaller userbase where everyone has to pay in instead of just one person. Even if things seem to work for a couple months, how can they avoid a mass exodus once people realize they're not getting what they want out of the new system?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You will play solo using AI. That's their plan.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I honestly don't think that will hold up either. AI writing isn't known for its continuity or cleverness and playing solo in a game without points doesn't tend to hold whales because they need people to show off their spending to.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They will quickly run into problems. The AI feeds on the data it is given, not just from WotC, but also the players. After a few months, all the scenarios will end up feeling the same. I can only imagine the scandals when people end up teaching it to ERP, even with tons of filters applied to it like Character.ai. It will be Book of Erotic Fantasy all over again, but this time WotC can't deny they had anything to do with it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >75k
        id say at 75k it will start spiraling into irrelevance. You need other people to play it and it will go the same way many MMORPGs go. 30bucks will probably be for the whole group, because no one would ever pay 30 per person. Thats more than WoW subscription

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wizards have already stated that they HATE that the only one that has to pay for books is the DM. They want EVERYONE to pay. They look at things like people paying to play in a group. They throw 20 bucks at a "Pro" DM, so that they and a group of friends or even some fucking randos, can play through Curse of Strad. Sometimes I see groups paying 10 bucks an HOUR and they might go through 3-4. Even at that rate, you are looking at months to be able to play the whole campaign. That is hundreds of dollars, no different than what Wizards wants to charge. These are the people that they are targeting, those that are already paying for DMs.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >10 bucks an HOUR
            holy shit. maybe you are right, i didnt take think about that because paid DMs are very bizare to me. At my table everyone wants to be DM so we run campaigns of 10-15 sesssions and then switch DM

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Of course I'm right. This is why I said that the rise of the paid DM would cause the death of the game. Even the most generous DMs are still charging 20 bucks PER player for a 3-4 hour session. The only solace is that people are going to be less likely to pay for a DM, if they are already paying WotC. Why pay for a DM in a possible around the same fee as you are already paying for D&D Beyond? When you can just let the AI DM for you?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I never paid for [email protected], I rather use my hand for that, and for sure I will never pay a DM.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >When you can just let the AI DM for you?
                i find it hard to believe that AI could be on the same level as human DM

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It doesn't have to be, it just has to be the cheaper solution for a lazy player. Imagine that you have a group of 5 friends that all want to play, but no one wants to DM. That's fine, they can just pay for a DM. They say they want to run Ravnica and the DM says sure. Group thinks they can pay him 20 bucks. He says PER person. Suddenly it's 100 bucks. Oh and because he's not contractually obligated, he can cut and run at a moments notice. DM goes for a smoke break and never comes back because he forgot? Too bad, 100 bucks again please. He doesn't care, he's got plenty of people lining up to just give him money. Thus a pissed off group of friends just deal with a shitty AI that can barely make a narrative, but at least the combat runs smoothly.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                i dont know man, AI DM will bet text only or shitty TTS, he also wont be able to react to players doing crazy quirky stuff, which the critical role crowd loves to do.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With the way corporations work though, any losses beyond whatever percentage can be spun as normal fluctuation will get their balls twisted by shareholders and law firms who are like ambulance chasers, but for shareholders who think the company isn't making enough money for them. Perpetual growth is the name of the game, not simply "profits". It has to be more than last year, and ideally more than ever. And then next year had better be more than this year, and also more than ever. Forever.

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Have ya'll tried playing anything that isn't d20? It's not a meme for a reason.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes, it was much worse than d20

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >"Can we play a modern setting for one?"
        >"Lets use d20 modern!"
        >Apparently a first level character can survive unfazed a point blank blast from a shotgun but can't punch through a wood plank
        >And this is better than ANY other ttrpg out there
        Fuck off.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no idea what you are talking about. I am telling i played three systems outside of d20 and all were much worse than DnD

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, sure. I'm confident your group tried to hammer a game with a different design within the pattern of d&d and you all thought the game sucked because you couldn't do things like in d&d.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              moron we moved to dnd after 7 years of one and 5 of another. Deal with it. You dont have to use d20 to be shitty TTRPG and you just want to feel superior

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That cunt is so fucking annoying.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Especially when she talks about Warhammer. She literally is in an abusive relationship with GW. And people pay her a Patreon for listening to that.

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    lol who gives a shit about dice color and backdrops. WoTC is so retarded

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There is a huge market for custom dice.

      That said limited edition dice was one of the things that bankrupted TSR.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        real dice. you can hold in your hand and show off to others. Not internet dice that will bug out in the middle and wont stop rolling for couple of minutes

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I think that $0.00 as the Free in the text said. Not 10$

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You're right, the 9 looks completely different.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, that is a Free tier, which gives you 3 characters, 3 campaigns and 3 encounters.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Holy shit that image disappeared.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes, because it's a real leak and it gets deleted because Wizards is butthurt about it getting posted. There is claims that it is a hoax, but it clearly isn't given everything coming out now.

        i dont know man, AI DM will bet text only or shitty TTS, he also wont be able to react to players doing crazy quirky stuff, which the critical role crowd loves to do.

        We will have to wait and see just how good Wizards can make it. I bet it will freak out just because you worded stabbing a giant rat wrong. I expect mass bannings because of perceived hate speech. It is going to be so shit.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Limited to 3 'encounters'
    WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEEEAAAAN

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It means that your "Campaign" in their VTT setting, can't have more than 3 encounters and you can't run more than 3 Campaigns, likely in a certain amount of time. Free is there simply to give you a taste of the VTT. It is a demo, you don't get the full game.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no. 3 encoutners mean DM can have prepreparedo nly 3 groups of mosnters to fight. After that he has to delete old one

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm gonna take this pic with a grain of salt, but the fact that it lines up with the dnd e-celebs chatter is alarming.

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At $30 a month they could lost over 90% of their playerbase and be up money

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They actually spend fucking nothing on WotC, content drip feed, and hardly any merch monetisation and they’re a fucking toy company. Surreal. They have the option for a value proposition 70% of the fan base would actually want and they’re adopting predatory vidya practices everyone fucking hates.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >see people memeing about AI DMs when OGL drama started on /tg/
    >it was actually being planned
    holy shit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even before the leak, see the date here:

      I fucking knew it.

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    R.I.P.
    Dungeons & Dragons
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