Would you be okay with female Space Marines if they hardly looked any different from the male ones?

Would you be okay with female Space Marines if they hardly looked any different from the male ones?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would you be okay with popping the pimples on my ass with your teeth?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I would, yes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. If they're literally indestingushable due to all the crazy hormones/geneseed etc
        Same as how IRL women who tren hard, eat clen and smash HGH look just like men too

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The junk space in the y chromosome is needed. And even then most dont make it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Only if you make it canon that Femarine Heavy Weapons teams are constantly and involuntarily pissing themselves just like female powerlifters.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would be more than okay with them in any context because I don't play warhammer or buy games workshop products, and if female space marines became canon it would make a lot of people very angry and I think the sort of people who would angry at that are deHispanicable children who deserve to suffer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't play warhammer or buy games workshop products, and if female space marines became canon it would make a lot of people very angry and I think the sort of people who would angry at that are deHispanicable children who deserve to suffer
      Yeah, that's every person who wants femmarines. Thanks for being honest.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this,
      also they should introduce volvo xc60 to imperial forces and make it twice as strong as any tank while costing less
      imagine the seethe

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No because I hate space marines, and I want to see fewer space marines, not more.

      That is a compelling point.
      I hate space marines and I would like to see them shit the bed with rage.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I want it to happen, so GW can finally die.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It make GW more popular though.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you NEED to modify the game setting and lore to have them?
    How does it enhance the game?
    Make your own game and strap tits on your spacebros, if it's got such demand, you'll make a killing right?
    Naw you're just a weird stinky fetishist.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because it goes against the setting rules that have been established since 2ed and it would be a bit of a stretch to change it. I would, however, be perfectly okay with a full reboot of the universe, badly needed in my opinion, that includes female space marines to begin with.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes because i'm a coomer and I don't care about the lore. Unironically.

    Kinda uncessary I guess since we already have sisters of battle but the more reasons people have to make art of buff women the happier I am.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm already fine with the concept but people just don't like change.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    40k lore is already ruined and it would cause extreme butthurt on /tg/ so I support it

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is the only place I ever see anyone talk about female space marines, and yet there are threads on it almost every day

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah people are obsessed with this on here it's fucking wild
      surprised anybody has time to actually play games with all the screaming about people touching or not touching canon in something or other

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I would be more than okay with them in any context because I don't play warhammer or buy games workshop products, and if female space marines became canon it would make a lot of people very angry and I think the sort of people who would angry at that are deHispanicable children who deserve to suffer

        >I think the sort of people who would angry at that are deHispanicable children who deserve to suffer
        See here.
        This here is the primary reason for the absolute majority of people who want femshit marines.
        Like every other thing leftist want, it's not based on any preference, it's done with singular purpose to spite other people and spoil the things the like.
        That's it, not magic, just pure evil.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >building your worldview off of anonymous troll posts

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm afraid those popped far, far too often than any reasonable alternative would imply and they correlate well with twitter crowds and companies management both.
            The only thing stopping it, is either lack of power for the former and scraps of sanity for profit for the latter.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          man you are one silly bitch

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wanted to get into LARP, so went to create a character and the logo of the event had the LGBT flag in it. I thought might be something like faction colors, so asked in the community chat what it was, they said it was the flag because they believe in inclusivity, I thanked them for the info and said the game isn't for me so not going to spend the money, they demonized me and then banned me. I did this in an alt account, so I got to watch them seething on my main.
          Not interested in giving my money to people who encourage it. You can be inclusive but not promote it. Paying to go to an event to be around circlejerks of trans sounds like hell. It's a shame, because they took over all LARP events and it's the only thing I'd like to do that involves socialization.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not evil to piss off people who are horrible spiteful pieces of shit. That's just a fun time. Ganker retards are not paragons of morality and I question where and when this notion arose (Chanology?).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It's not evil to piss off people who are horrible spiteful pieces of shit.
            Hence why it's not evil to piss off chuds, yes.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You are correct. Damn shame that the weirdos and pronoun crusaders seem to be outnumbering the 40k enjoyers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's all over social media. Just because you only visit this site doesn't mean it's isolated to just this site

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What did Arch do now?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not Arch, this time has been Majorkill
          https://twitter.com/Majorkill1/status/1615613223184785408

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why can't that dudebro just kill himself.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not Arch, this time has been Majorkill
          https://twitter.com/Majorkill1/status/1615613223184785408

          Who?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous
            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Kek, that's exactly what this shit always is. "How do you do fellow 40K fans" indeed

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >using socialist media
        they are echo chambers

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, they're leftist echo chambers, making them great listening posts to see what those fags are plotting next. Plus you can get some great coom art from the nips there.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ganker is social media, and one of the more notorious echo chambers at that. Famously so.

          [...]
          Who?

          That post is unironically correct, in that 40k lore is a haphazard mishmash of stories constructed with the sole purpose of selling plastic dudes. It was never meant to be set in stone or even particularly coherent.
          The moment GW decides female marines will bring in more players than they drive away, they'll come up with a lore reason. It's literally that simple.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Except the Space Marines being solely men has being consistent throughout the entire lifetime of 40k. Same with Sisters Of Battle being soley women. How hard is it to understand?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They can change the lore on a whim, and have on other things. How is THAT hard to understand?

              nta, but
              >Other than gender
              Being single gender is the point, nevermind the other specific themes and aesthetics of nuns and monks
              >primaris adepta sororitas.
              You know what? I bet most people or myself wouldn't object to making Sisters stronger and closer to marines via a process for them. But they would to be more human than marines. Most marines are dehumanized to the point they don't understand normal socialization and interactions.

              >nevermind the other specific themes and aesthetics of nuns and monks
              Such as? That's literally the question, please provide an example.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They've made terrible decisions so they should KEEP making the same terrible decision but even worse

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Such as? That's literally the question, please provide an example.
                Being single gender. Do you even know why nuns and monks even became a thing in the first place? It's about political control, power, and dehumanization.
                If you mix them you lose the thematic connection to IRL history and they become just Aliens' marines with power armour. And there's already a faction for very human and mixed gender soldiers: the imperial guard.

                Asking for female marines is missing the point. Ask for more Sisters' diversity, or more mixing of Custodes/Sisters of Silence in the game and the lore instead. That would make more sense and still be 40k

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can grant you all of that and you still wouldn't have answered the question.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're not accepting the answer: being single gender is a key part of their identity, in and out universe

                Anon that's not even remotely how it works, you're just horny and emotionally stunted

                Yes it is. For example, I've seen closely male and female sports teams and that's exactly how it works.
                You lack real life experience.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And I've been first hand in male only and mixed gender groups. So long as no one is bringing horny into it there is no meaningful difference between a male only group and a male and butch women only group. Heck a pussy ass guy is more likely to be a disruption than a butch women

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said I didn't object to the chud space marine on lore grounds, but I didn't say anything about representation. Come on man read the post.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Meant for

                You kinda did

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I said I didn't object to the chud space marine on lore grounds, but I didn't say anything about representation. Come on man read the post.

                You said you wanted pronoun war bullshit hamfisted in, the grounds are irrelevant

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The grounds are extremely relevant. Or do you object to slannesh doing some non binary pronoun war bullshit too? What about orks? There's already pronoun war shit in 40k it just works and fits into the setting, probably cause it's always been there before this became the new brain rot

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The grounds are extremely relevant.
                Not particularly.
                >Or do you object to slannesh doing some non binary pronoun war bullshit too?
                Waffling already, are we? That was quick.
                >What about orks?
                And now you want to add transorks too. Thanks for proving my point that all you want is to hamfist in your little culture war that has become your whole personality.
                >ACKshully, 40K was ALWAYS trans!
                Oh good then we don't have to change it for your pronoun war gayry.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit it's retarded

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You can't compare college or the workplace with being 24/7 closely with the same focused group of people while being physical. That's not how it works. I'm not talking about hornyness or whatever, there's a lot of it anyway.

                Nevermind you ignoring the themes involved.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Themes are gay and I'm not that anon. And I mean if you don't bring wanting to fuck anyone into it nothing changes. But I think we're just arguing personal experience at this point

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wanting women to be men is about as gay as you can get, anon.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >muh anecdotes!
                Science proves your anecdotes wrong, fren. You're also comparing playing a TRPG to fucking war.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                bro what the fuck did I say to imply it was a TRPG group?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're right, that was foolish of me to assume you actually played games.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh biting anon how will I ever recover

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So long as no one is bringing horny into it
                As if female space marines are anything but coomer garbage

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >40k lore is a haphazard mishmash of stories constructed with the sole purpose of selling plastic dudes.
            okay...
            >It was never meant to be set in stone or even particularly coherent.
            Not true at all. We have decades of hundreds of books with a well stablished universe. Sure there are huge variation in quality and tone, but the fundamental are the same since the 90s.
            >The moment GW decides female marines will bring in more players than they drive away, they'll come up with a lore reason. It's literally that simple.
            I can't disagree with this, but this would be really be a deal breaker for most marinefags. Just remember the butthurt about primaris despite being a minor change in comparison.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And Ganker isn't?
          >but there's constant arguments
          Most arguments here are trolling. For example, pretty much everyone on Ganker agrees that piracy is okay. You see a lot of pirate vs anti-pirate threads, but they're blatantly just retards responding to trolls.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its just one guy spamming

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a great bait.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, everything's possible after Primaris.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Primaris.
      What is it?

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Female Nuns, Male monks.

    If you want to change these fundamental character classes becuase of gender politics you can go fuck yourself, you pathetic Marxist gay.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i just want 8 foot tall genetically enhanced muscle mommies

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What your asking for is primaris adepta sororitas.

        Stop pretending to be a dumb fuck. It's only adorable when real girls do it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Please explain in your own words which aspects of astartes are monklike but not nunlike and which aspects of sororitas are nunlike but not monklike.
      Other than gender, obviously.

      What your asking for is primaris adepta sororitas.

      Stop pretending to be a dumb fuck. It's only adorable when real girls do it.

      >primaris adepta sororitas.
      Now THAT would actually break the lore, since sororitas aren't created via gene-seed implants. I thought people opposed to femarines cared about lore?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nta, but
        >Other than gender
        Being single gender is the point, nevermind the other specific themes and aesthetics of nuns and monks
        >primaris adepta sororitas.
        You know what? I bet most people or myself wouldn't object to making Sisters stronger and closer to marines via a process for them. But they would to be more human than marines. Most marines are dehumanized to the point they don't understand normal socialization and interactions.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >I bet most people or myself wouldn't object to making Sisters stronger and closer to marines via a process for them
          I would. A major part of their appeal is that they are normal humans under the armor, overcoming impossible odds with nothing but sheer religious retardation.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            "religious retardation" ends up being too many times "magic faith did it", like the 9th ed. trailer. It's a bit of a cop out IMO and I would like to see more Sisters having the type of extreme survival stories that marines get. They could get their own female spin on it with unique stuff.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Primaris" has become shorthand for "slightly stronger sidegrade" in a lot of circles anon, snaggas get called primaris orks all the time. How do you not know this?

        nta, but
        >Other than gender
        Being single gender is the point, nevermind the other specific themes and aesthetics of nuns and monks
        >primaris adepta sororitas.
        You know what? I bet most people or myself wouldn't object to making Sisters stronger and closer to marines via a process for them. But they would to be more human than marines. Most marines are dehumanized to the point they don't understand normal socialization and interactions.

        >I bet most people or myself wouldn't object to making Sisters stronger and closer to marines via a process for them.
        I would, unless it was religious over scientific. Something like a eucharistic ritual where a Living Saint bleeds into a chalice that all the chosen sisters drink from to transubstantiate themselves into primaris!Sisters. I still wouldn't like it because it feels lazy as fuck, but at least they'd retain the flavor of the faction that way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you pathetic Marxist gay
      But it's you spending hundreds of dollars and investing your emotions in the game created as leftist satire

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        LIBERAL Leftist satire you disgusting communist freak.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fan-baiting thread
    sage
    hide
    report

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Call the cops for good measure

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically I would be fine with FtM space marines, the process and copious roids taken during selection just has them coming out on the other end with XY chromosomes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah. I'd rather they just have female custodes or some kind of spiritual marine version of SoB.

      Yeah I guess I could support this. I know fan art wouldn't adhere to it but make them look literally male. Aside of a cunt or down in the DNA they look 100% male down to facial hair.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah exactly, go for the full FtM thing, that or just have an iron plate down there or something.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >female custodes
        Like the sisters of silence?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nah. I'd rather they just have female custodes or some kind of spiritual marine version of SoB.

      Yeah I guess I could support this. I know fan art wouldn't adhere to it but make them look literally male. Aside of a cunt or down in the DNA they look 100% male down to facial hair.

      Yeah exactly, go for the full FtM thing, that or just have an iron plate down there or something.

      >ftm marines
      Literally why? If they're going to be indistinguishable from male marines then what's the goddamn point other than to win some culture war beachhead gayry? I can respect the coomers who want fat tittied muscle mommy asstarts more than you snake-ass sons of bitches who just want to drag 40K into your gay ass pronoun wars.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It would only be a pronoun war because idiots like you would see an 8-foot tall slab of muscles and testosterone and for some reason insist on calling it "she."

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >admit you want to turn a woman into a man
          >somehow this isn't pronoun culture war gayry

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Pronoun war
        Anon they're coming out the other end a man that's the point. See the fem marine conversation is dumb because how the process works is you take a kid, mod the hell out of them, and then basically replace their genetic structure with someone else's. There can be no female space marines cause the process of becoming a space marine makes a copy of a male super soldier, but that doesn't strictly exclude putting a female aspirants into the process. Combine the indoctrination with them already being a freak of nature or drugs to get this far and they'll be coming out the other end he/him.

        The sames true for race, if the white scars ever got there hands on a non space Mongolian kid, that kids coming out the other end Mongolian. Similarly the only space marine chapters that should be multiethnic are ones that have had to scavenge for gene seed in the past, particularly successor chapters and the like.

        >So you want GW to do this?
        No no god no, I do not trust those gays to not screw it up, I just don't object to the concept on a lore basis and think it would solve the fem marine issue for good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >It's not pronoun culture war bullshit, I just want chud space marines for muh representation!
          So....it's a pronoun war.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I did not say that

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You kinda did

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That would be a pretty neat way to do it. Maybe say some nonsense like the emperor's genes are si overpower that it makes even women more like him and turns them into men?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah exactly, or that indoctrination is so powerful it can alter minds that deep. Alternatively if you wanted to safe guard against further shenanigans you could throw the wokescalds a bone with some "they had to be a man at heart" line. So now If GW ever tried to do a fem marine they'd be contradicting chud lore and pissing off them too

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would be ok with female space marines because they would take the role of libtrash pandering mascots, allowing sororitas to be fanservice again.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lets create the most fierce and powerful human warriors known to mankind
    >also, lets use a sex thats physically inferior to the other one in every imaginable way, thus creating much weaker warriors at the same cost or even more if you want them to be remotely comparable
    >why do that instead of focusing on simply creating the best possible ones?
    >uuuh, stop asking questions chud

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >also, lets use a sex thats physically inferior to the other one in every imaginable way,
      While we're at it, let's start the process at an incredibly young age that is physically and mentally inferior to a more mature age in every imaginable way.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we're slapping two brains 20 hearts and 500lungs into a body after completely altering it biologically

      doesn't really matter what you start with.
      Soeritas already are pmuch space marines and rek or match every non terminator stronger sex male in existance in wh40k universe.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous.

        >Speach to text ESL.
        Kek.

        Lorefag here.
        Astartes organs were designed at the outset, to only work in male biology and physiology. This, while providing a better 'starting point' for such a transformation, also prevents the marines breeding and becoming utterly independent of humanity. The current method still makes them dependent on normal people for recruits, (unless they boink their chapter serfs successfully, but that's borderline impossible).
        Ten thousand years later, you're lucky to find a planet with the right genetic makeup, and the right environmental pressures, that the top 1% of fighting boys won't immediately seize and die on the operating table, much less try and make it work on a girl.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Lorefag here.
          This is the gayest thing I've read all year

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This is the gayest thing I've read all year
            Don't worry, we got 11 more months.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ohhh kinkayyy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pic
          Did they fuck in the next panel?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Don't think space marine dongs work

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who the fuck cares
          Only retards with nonstandards play gw slop anyway. The lores been butchered trillions of times over.
          Only difference now its gonna be more inclusive and yall actually gonna finally take a stand over a relatively minor retcon

          If your opinions mattered you wouldnt be a gw fangirl.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly i want them to say women are only kept in wh40k as sex slaves, its a complete patriarchial society and there are only white people in wh40k, that are all descendants of russians and chinese.

    That way all the complete subhuman scum that 100% time only seem to exist to ruin a gaming session are all stuck playing one of the worse ttwg and the rest of us have better, cleaner communities.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >OP didn't manage to rile up 40kg enough and proceeded to shit up the board with this asinine thread

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous.

    No.
    I like 40K, even with the recent shit lore, as it's mostly ignorable.
    Female Space marines would ruin too many concepts via their introduction. The piss-take of the masculine power warrior fantasy, the existence of the Sisters of Battle, the position and relationship they hold to humanity.
    It would be an objectively poor lore choice, and I am not so bitter or cold as to get behind it for such a reason.
    You want power armoured amazons, go find an Inquisitor on space-roids, or one Custodian of a thousand.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the masculine power warrior fantasy
      would still be there
      >the existence of the Sisters of Battle
      would still be there
      >the position and relationship they hold to humanity
      would still be there

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >masculine power warrior fantasy
        >the position and relationship they hold to humanity
        >would still be there
        No it wont't. It would be like making Little Women or Jane Austen novels with men: totally missing the point.
        40k Space Marines are about the male power fantasy AND the subversion of it via endless Lord of the Flies scenarios. It's unironically about male experiences taken to the most extreme cases.
        People who want marines with a pencil neck pretty girl head do not get it. There's a reason there's a real trope in 40k stories about women characters used to contrast their humanity with emotionally stunted marines.
        >ib4 muh representation
        SM are not really heroes, they're monsters or anti heroes at best. Trying to make them into aspirational figures is stupid and misses the point.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >40k Space Marines are about the male power fantasy AND the subversion of it
          It has never been subverted.
          >marines with a pencil neck pretty girl head do not get it
          Female marines wouldn't look like that. Even the Sisters don't look like that.
          >There's a reason there's a real trope in 40k stories about women characters used to contrast their humanity with emotionally stunted marines.
          That sounds incredibly sexist. And name one example.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It has never been subverted.
            You have not read space marine stories? The fucking Horus Heresy alone is 60+ books about that
            >Female marines wouldn't look like that. Even the Sisters don't look like that.
            Sisters look like that (unfortunately IMO), and pretty girl marines is exactly what those people want.
            >That sounds incredibly sexist. And name one example.
            No is not. Normal men act normally i 40k stories, but space marines are not normal at all. Examples of those female characters are common: Euphrati Keeler, Ilya Ravallion, Octavia... even Sisters play this role sometimes as foil to SM. They're not the only ones, normal male characters are also used, but authors tend to use women to avoid books being even more of a sausage fests than they are.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Having female marines doesn't mean removing male marines.
          >Little Women or Jane Austen novels with men
          Those books still have men in them.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Having female marines doesn't mean removing male marines.
            Yes it does. They no longer would be the Lord of the Flies child supersoldiers/monks of 40k. They would be generic sci fi warriors.
            There's a reason they were already gender segregated since the start along Sisters, while the Imperial guard has always been mixed gender.
            >Those books still have men in them.
            They're not the the protagonists or the real subject matter of those stories. A male version of these books would be nonsensical for the same reason. They're 100% women stories about women experiences. The same applies to SM in 40k.

            Exactly, as the female miniatures didnt sell and got rid of em, SM got flanderized into the biologically enhaced supersoldier they are nowadays.

            This is incorrect. You're misquoting the story about GW seeing FANTASY female warriors not selling well, so they never made female marines in the first place, just two (2) proto-sisters of battle minis with no faction rules that they sold as generic adventurers.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >The same applies to SM in 40k.
              How exactly do marines experiences apply to normal men?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the making of war, soldier dehumanization, daddy issues, and brotherhood of SM are classic men issues and obssesions since the fucking Illiad, anon

                >They no longer would be the Lord of the Flies child supersoldiers/monks of 40k
                Nothing about those has to exclude women.

                Yes it does, because gender segregation is the point. That's why I used Little Women or Jane Austen as opposite examples. Those are all stories from the unique PoV of one gender. Mixing them introduces interactions that turn them into other thing. In the case of marines, it would humanize them more, which is a bad thing.
                There would be also the loss of the medieval retrograde themes of 40k, with marines as monks and sisters as nuns. The later would be robbed of their unique themes and identity.

                If you want "female representation" in 40k, demand making Sisters more relevant and varied, or more imperial guard/xeno stories with women protagonists, not dilluting what makes marines unique and spoiling it for the people that likes them as they are. I'd rather see marines take a back seat in the setting than turning them into another generic space troopers faction.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you keep pretending that dehumanization, indoctrination and war are male-only issues?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                When was the last time women were conscripted against their wills to die under artillery shells?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you keep pretending that fraternal bonding and brotherhood are female issues?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >fraternal bonding and brotherhood
                Women have their own female versions of that. They just can't exist at the same time with mixed genders. It becames a completely different dynamic.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Women have their own female versions of that
                Yeah, called a sorority.
                Sorority, now there's a fun word to say...
                Hey, maybe GW should use it for their all-female femarine chapters!
                Adeptus Astororities? No, that's not it.
                Adeotus Sororitartes? Hmm, maybe...
                I'll figure out something to call this homebrew abd get back to you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >same time with mixed genders
                That is a (you) problem.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dehumanization, indoctrination and war
                So...the Guard?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Because historically (and currently) the specific versions of dehumanization, indoctrination and war suffered and practiced by men are not the same as the ones by women.
                Can we make histories about those but with women? Sure. But they need to be fully genderbended like Sisters to be really the same thing, or you end with another clone of Aliens' Colonial Marines (whose role is played by the Imperial Guard in 40k)

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Because historically (and currently) the specific versions of dehumanization, indoctrination and war suffered and practiced by men
                And why does that have to be the case in 40k?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Damn bro, you sure move those goal posts quick.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You still haven't proven that having female marines are in any way detrimental to male marines.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You still haven't managed a real argument for it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                the making of war, soldier dehumanization, daddy issues, and brotherhood of SM are classic men issues and obssesions since the fucking Illiad, anon
                [...]
                Yes it does, because gender segregation is the point. That's why I used Little Women or Jane Austen as opposite examples. Those are all stories from the unique PoV of one gender. Mixing them introduces interactions that turn them into other thing. In the case of marines, it would humanize them more, which is a bad thing.
                There would be also the loss of the medieval retrograde themes of 40k, with marines as monks and sisters as nuns. The later would be robbed of their unique themes and identity.

                If you want "female representation" in 40k, demand making Sisters more relevant and varied, or more imperial guard/xeno stories with women protagonists, not dilluting what makes marines unique and spoiling it for the people that likes them as they are. I'd rather see marines take a back seat in the setting than turning them into another generic space troopers faction.

                I'm not even that anon, but he summed it up perfectly and you've yet to disprove his assertion. Instead you just started flailing and deflecting like a Dark Souls dex build rollspammer

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                None of that ceases with the introduction of female marines. If you are unbale to have a bond of brotherhood becase a woman is near you... that's just childish.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's quite literally scientifically false. Gender segregated schools and military units alike perform better.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >If you are unbale to have a bond of brotherhood becase a woman is near you... that's just childish.
                No, it's how human beings work. Brotherhood and sisterhood dissapear in mixed gender groups and it becomes other thing. It's not the same at all.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And how is that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How men and women aren't the same thing?
                Oh, how indeed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Explain how brotherhood and sisterhold are so fundamentally different that you can't have then coexist. Fucking try.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's in the name anon. You can't have a group of people with the two things at the same time. That's not how humans work

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Saying that it would work is the assertion, thus the burden of proof is on you.

                I just told you, retard. Men and women aren't the same.
                You can get either brotherhood or sisterhood in one group.

                It's exactly why normal military doesn't allow women or open gays. They miss the point of bonding.

                Idk about you but I've never seen sibligns stop acting like siblings when the other gender enters the room

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's almost like they're blood related anon

                Also brotherhood and sisterhood isn't the same as sibling relations.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Also brotherhood and sisterhood isn't the same as sibling relations.
                Louder please, some people need to hear this more.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I still don't know anyone who stops being a brother (in spirit) when they are near girls

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Saying that it would work is the assertion, thus the burden of proof is on you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I just told you, retard. Men and women aren't the same.
                You can get either brotherhood or sisterhood in one group.

                It's exactly why normal military doesn't allow women or open gays. They miss the point of bonding.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You can get either brotherhood or sisterhood in one group
                okay...
                >It's exactly why normal military doesn't allow women or open gays. They miss the point of bonding.
                ...don't bring 4chan garbage here

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This entire argunent reeks of 4chan and it's because they're desperately clinging to the last oiece of influnece they have over Warhammer.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's only 4chan because retards like you made it so.
                It is common knowledge. Or used to be anyway.
                I'm pretty sure you all aware of it nonetheless but just play dumb.
                Asking asinine questions like "how can man be a woman?", "could women have penises" and the like.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                See

                That's quite literally scientifically false. Gender segregated schools and military units alike perform better.

                Since you're so Adept at deflecting away from points you're forced to concede

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Anon that's not even remotely how it works, you're just horny and emotionally stunted

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why does that have to be the case in 40k?
                it doesn't. That's why Sisters exist.

                >Women have their own female versions of that
                Yeah, called a sorority.
                Sorority, now there's a fun word to say...
                Hey, maybe GW should use it for their all-female femarine chapters!
                Adeptus Astororities? No, that's not it.
                Adeotus Sororitartes? Hmm, maybe...
                I'll figure out something to call this homebrew abd get back to you.

                Indeed

                >same time with mixed genders
                That is a (you) problem.

                No, it's you not having real world experience of single gender groups of people.

                You still haven't proven that having female marines are in any way detrimental to male marines.

                They dillute and destroy the uniqueness and themes of SM, and do the same to Sisters.
                If you want mixed gender super soldiers, SM is not the faction for it.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They no longer would be the Lord of the Flies child supersoldiers/monks of 40k
              Nothing about those has to exclude women.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >SM are not really heroes, they're monsters or anti heroes at best. Trying to make them into aspirational figures is stupid and misses the point.
          You're stupid and missing the point.
          Space Marines are the exaggeration of a male character to the extreme. Monsters, heroes, it's all the same. They're heroes in the more realistic world than cliche cartoons.
          Trying to deny they're incredibly appealing as a model of maleness is just dishonest arguing.

          This ties to why femarines are such an abysmally stupid idea, it undercuts the very premise of marines as paragons and breaks power fantasy.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Semantics. I used "heroes" in the sense that is used commonly in pop culture today.
            Otherwise I mostly agree with you. SM are heroes in the same sense than Achilles or Ghengis Khan are "heroes"

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >30%
      It's over

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I have seen similar polls int the past, and is always about 70-30, it hasnt changed.
        Bet ya GW know it, image related

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Honestly, fuck that guy.
          He was fine with the Gathering Storm and everything after it, yet fem'marines is where he draws the line.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Or he's just exerting whatever little influence he has, anon. You can't save everything and everyone when the storm gathers, but you can try to save what you value most.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Then that guy has fuccked up priorities. Preventing the addition of fem-marines is irrelevant because the setting has alreasy been sullied beyond repair now.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I work directly with people who's career is to have smoke blown up their ass, anon. When the Big Man gets a wild hair and decides he has the Best Idea Ever, all you can do is strongly advise against it followed by prepping the damage control once said Best Idea Ever blows up in everyone's faces. I can promise you some limp wristed simp tried to use Primaris to force femarines in and this guy was probably able to shoot that down even if he couldn't shoot down Primaris as a whole.

                Besides, that's such a faggy, bitchmade mentality of yours. "I can't save everything so I may as well just give up and cry instead of saving as much as I can"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >instead of saving as much as I can
                Well the problem as you just pointed out is that you can only save so much, and that teeny weeny bit becomes irrelevant when compared to everything else that has been lost.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >that teeny weeny bit becomes irrelevant when compared to everything else that has been lost.
                I strongly disagree that preventing marines from being completely upended and rewritten for the sake of muh diverse representation is "a teeny weeny bit" or irrelevant. If it was irrelevant we wouldn't be circling back to this argument time and time again.

                It's also incredibly retarded to blame those who hold their ground for those that break ranks and flee.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They're already being upended and rewritten.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And this is another reason to stand your ground.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then get out in the street and do it. Until then, we're taking 40K from you.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >admits that it was all just a pathetic attempt at demoralization
                Lmao, knew it. That's what I get for debating in good faith with a wretch.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                We can't. You always end up siding with terrorist groups like blm, you play victim, we are shot dead and no one gets arrested. I had no problem with homos and trannies until you all became insufferable pricks. You only have yourselves to blame.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And it hasn't worked.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >instead of saving as much as I can
                Well the problem as you just pointed out is that you can only save so much, and that teeny weeny bit becomes irrelevant when compared to everything else that has been lost.

                >NYOOOOO STANDING YOUR GROUND DOESN'T WOOORK JUST GIVE UP ALREADY CHUUUUUUUDS
                No.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Have fun with you consolidation prize while the rest of the setting is being pilfered.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >orks are fine, snaggas are alright and kommandos are fucking excellent
                >SoBs are getting more love than they have in decades
                >Ynnari have gotten walked back
                >Trueborn DEldar soon
                >Guard got plastic Kriegers, GW has hinted at more regiments getting models too
                >kasrkins are back too
                >Mechanicus is a faction instead of a single guard model
                >Necrons haven't really changed since newcrons
                >WE joins TS and DG
                >Squats are back (a mixed bag for me personally, but some are happy about it)
                >traitor guard and cultists getting some love
                >Chaos Undivided/Unaligned is getting representation, a daemon prince, and a daemon to boot
                What exactly is being pilfered here? Seems like that dude holding his ground has contributed to a consistent pushback and RETVRN to old ways

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So true!! This is the golden age of 40k!!

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It kinda is for people who actually own models instead of being a braindead tertiary obsessing over muh deepest lore.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The new models are soulless.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Owning models and painting them is part of the appeal.
                And painting requires having some idea of any army.
                Something like, I don't know, lore? Retard.

                Otherwise you can play Warhammer with caps, burgers and beer bottles if you want.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you need to read 200 pages of subpar graphomania to choose between painting your muhreens blue or red
                Now this is cope.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That's just expanding on the idea.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Ironically, it's only space marines that are in a rocky place from a models standpoint and it's largely thanks to the whole primaris nonsense. Eldar and nids could use some TLC and Deldar needs some replacements to all the resin they lost, but primaris was not the Normandy turning point you keep trying to pretend it was with your doomsaying histrionics.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you're already losing, just give up, don't win small battles
                weird way of convincing people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They've been egregiously updated and added to, not fundamentally changed at the thematic level. Yes, primaris were shit and a massive blow to the faction's flavor, but still a drop in the bucket compared to femarines. And again, you're seething about a middle manager doing as much as possible for...not just giving up and doing nothing instead?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >They're already being upended and rewritten.
                No they really aren't. Primaris are just a new coat of paint over new marines, but they're still 100% the same just with even more brother vs brother conflict and daddy issues.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is diversity a bad thing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is homogeny a bad thing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Almost 1 hour has passed and there's no reply. When confronted with the opposite of the same question they always drop the subject because there's no bad things about it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It's a question so dumb, only the most backwoods redneck in the middle of getting his ass ploughed by his father-brother while his mother-sister watches while cradling their three-legged stillborn would come up with it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Making marines mixed gender actually makes them more homogenous and just like a zillion space troopers out there in fiction.
                SM and Sisters are unique thanks to being single-gender only. There's also their deliberate medieval and retrograde themes that would also be dilluted making them oh so inclusive.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, I'm not actually part of this fake argument, I was just pointing out how dumb the question was when you were hoping you scored some kind of point with it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry I just didn't notice it.
                The answer is that it's not, and female space marines don't remove it. They still have the same colour scheme just like guard regiments will. They are still homogenous. Unless you want to paint them differently.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >troll lays down bait on someone he knows is actually invested in the fake argument
                Wow, you're really a piece of shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I answered the question, did you not want that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why is one preferable to the other, or better why do you care?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you care that they're not diverse?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Diverse how? that's a broad question. I guess generally outside of specific situations it helps avoid planet of the hat scenarios, but sometimes planet of the hat is what's needed. Does that make sense Anon?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't understand. We already have female space marines. Is the name that fucking important? Do we need Ork Space Marines, too? Eldar Space Marines? Tau Space Marines? Where does this fuckery end?

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Having seen both sides froth at the mouth over this for years on end like it was a fucking religious debate, I no longer give a fuck either way.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely wouldn't give a shit if it had been something from the 80s/90s they brought back like 15 years ago, or if it had always been that way.

    The problem is what it would do and the shitstorm it would unleash on both sides. This board would be fucking cancer-inducing on a scale not even seen post-primaris, and so would every EpicNerdNews article about 'manchildren' and gatekeeping and shit. Then it gets to broader news networks and there's articles about 'toy soldiers no girls allowed.'

    >Hey anon, didn't you say you did this stuff? Says here they don't allow women

    >5,000,000th /tg/ thread about 40gay, rainbow warriors, le black peeple etc

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because female space Marines don't fit the theme.

    The SM are knightly orders of warrior-monks bound in spiritual and fraternal brotherhood. Mixed-sex Marines defeat the entire point of them.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. I'd be okay with female ASPIRANTS, but the biological restructuring processes that convert them into a Space Marine also make the resultant Marine present as Male. Creating an Astartes requires a pre-pubescent individual as the starting block, so before Sexual Dimorphism is expressed within the Human genetic code - the resulting Marine would therefore experience 'Astartes' puberty rather then the Typical male or female variants.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Disgusting, no. No loopholes, or the chuds will jump on it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every single Space Marine is already Trans, Anon. Transhuman Warriors. Astartes may present as 'Male', but is effectively a third (non-reproductive) gender.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          kek this is the real reason chuds want shemale marines, cause you fags think transhumanism is literal

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Transhuman & transgender are different concepts
          And with FSM then they will able to reproduce without normal humans, warping transhuman to posthuman

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >And with FSM then they will able to reproduce without normal humans
            No, because they will still be sterile as a result of their operations.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >No, because they will still be sterile as a result of their operations.
              For thousands of years, normal humans that have trouble reproducing have searched methods to revert it and have families. With surgery capable of making astartes, what makes you think they would not search for solutions for that problem?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >what makes you think they would not search for solutions for that problem?
                Well they didn't in the 10.000 years of their history, so why would they start after femmarines become a thing?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Well they didn't in the 10.000 years of their history, so why would they start after femmarines become a thing?
                With femmarines you got couples, and that tends to create families

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Marines already interact with women regularly. If they had any interest in forming families or ormantic relationships, they would have done so. Women being or not being space marines themselves doesn't change much in this case.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Marines already interact with women regularly.
                Yes, totally the same as having females in the same species as them...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >in the same species
                The difference between space marines and humans isn't dramatic enough to affect relationship dynamics.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The difference between space marines and humans isn't dramatic enough to affect relationship dynamics.
                There are lots of conflicts between normal humans and space marines for that reason, but sure, it isnt enough dramatic...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The conflicts are because space marines are fucking heathens who don't worship God-Emperor properly, treat their shitty primarchs with the same (if not greater!) reverence, and indulge in all sorts of barbaric, heretical rituals. Them looking a little different is the least of their crimes.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A common theme is that space marines are bastards who look down on normal humans
                Do we even play the same game? Do you even have minis?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do current marines occasionally get in gay relationships?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Lion El'Jonson
                >Lionel Johnson

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Depends if you think they still have functional sex drives or not. If yes probably, if not no

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If not and no, then female marines wouldn't change that, right? Therefore no couples, therefore no one trying to make them fertile again.

                LIBERAL Leftist satire you disgusting communist freak.

                >liberal
                >leftist
                So you're saying you're dumb, politically illiterate, AND American?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Space Wolves literally ride their brothers into battle.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                As far as anyone can tell, these people seem entirely asexual. After all, the Emperor wanted warriors. Frankly, that makes for a refreshing change of pace

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >As far as anyone can tell, these people seem entirely asexual.
                Space Wolves' failed dark space expedition, lorelet

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Okay then, let's have female space marines but only for Space Wolves. That way we can centralize all the horrible ideas into one chapter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You know, SW is probably the only chapter where it could work, precisely because they've already been flanderized to hell, so shieldmaidens or whatever doesn't change anything

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          according to their OWN logic:
          Space marines are a new Species after transfornation.
          they have 1 gender, male. ergo making them nonbinary (not male & female)
          ergo marines are trans(formed) nonbinary.
          adding female marines is trans nonbinary erasure & ergo bigoted & transphobic.
          Checkmate.

          marines
          >are not a seperate species but are genetical modified humans
          >refer to each other as brothers therefore identify as male
          >fight alongside sisters of battle who identify as females
          checkmate chud

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            whoever said i was pro female marines? in pointing out a logic paradox they have.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If this isn't then you're a massive tard

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to make an ultimate warrior, why start with a woman? That's like trying to forge a sword from lead.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, they're pointless. It would fuck up the established lore to do so. There is already a female fighting force with good lore. The people that want fem marines are gays and coomers. The only reason the former wants them is to spite long time fans of the setting.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Space marines poop inside their suits.
    STINKY!

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    according to their OWN logic:
    Space marines are a new Species after transfornation.
    they have 1 gender, male. ergo making them nonbinary (not male & female)
    ergo marines are trans(formed) nonbinary.
    adding female marines is trans nonbinary erasure & ergo bigoted & transphobic.
    Checkmate.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Space marines are a new Species after transfornation.
      >they have 1 gender, male.
      Space marines are transorks?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        According to their logic, apparently so.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As long as I can get male SoBs, I like their armour. I really dont see why people want female space marines, but not for anything else, I just dont get it. im not even oppose to it, I just dont understand why there is this big push for female characters in a setting like this.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I really dont see why people want female space marines,
      Because I want big-tiddy muscle mommy models which are:
      A) legal to play in our ONLY LGS, which is a GW store, and
      B) I want them to be as well supported as Space Marines with rules and releases, which means that no, SoB don't count, they have to be Space Marines since that's all GW cares about

      Everyone ELSE gets their fetishes catered to in current year, so fuck the lore (it can be rewritten, the same as it always has), I want mine catered to as well. Deal with it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I want them to be as well supported as Space Marines with rules and releases
        Which they never will be. At most you'll get a head per sprue, but more likely you'll get a half-assed and overpriced upgrade kit every 5-8 years.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You should be trying to make GW to make Sisters more relevant and varied instead of fucking up what other people like.
        >fuck the lore (it can be rewritten, the same as it always has)
        The lore about the nature of marines has been the same since 35+ years ago. It's a foundational stone of the setting at all levels. And the lore is very rarely "rewritten" since 2e, GW just keeps adding more stuff.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The lore about the nature of marines has been the same since 35+ years ago
          1993*

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Marines in the 1987 RT rulebook were already male monk warriors, psycho-indoctrinated and with implants. Then in 1988-9 they got the full list of organs, geneseed, primarchs, etc.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              With R3

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                1993*

                Marines got T4 in White Dwarf #129 from 1990, reprinted in the Compilation book in '91

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Exactly, as the female miniatures didnt sell and got rid of em, SM got flanderized into the biologically enhaced supersoldier they are nowadays.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              kys you shitposting no life retard.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              1993*

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just play Battletech, moron.
        Get yourself a Genetically Engineered Clanner Elemental Muscle-Mommy.
        They can even fuck, isn't that neat?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe anon doesn't want to play a dead game. Ever think of that, boomer?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nignog that pic related is fully usable in a gw cuckshed, its only made of gw bits which is the only thing they give a fuck about

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only if for every reference to them, a million garden gnomes where to be put to the sword.
    in fact, do that and I'll be fine with pretty much anything.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If they had it where they were like the Super Mutants from Fallout where the sexual characteristics are so heavily atrophied they looked just like the men, and played it up for the body horror, sure.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do you want (not need) female space marines, exactly...
    >Adeptus Sororitus are literally female space marines...
    they are literally called "the sisters of battle", just like the Space marines are called "battle brothers". both are zealots worshipers of the god emperor. nothing is stopping you from playing them as a version of the same faction either
    >eldar are literally armies of just all highly skilled female alien-elven warriors.
    they are canonically in lore more skilled in squad on squad combat than space marines.
    if you want feminist armies here they are, just play/kitbash these fucking armies you gays.

    >unironiclly KYS for this utter retardation... it's cringe beyond measure tying to force "new-wave" gender politics on a old/classic WG-TRPG
    Much less forcing this bullshit on a game focused on dystopian space-age regression & medieval-esque gothic grimdark stylization. Expecially when such a game is deeply ingrained in older generational nostalgia and made well over 30 years ago in an age when crybaby behavior would get you bullied & your teeth kicked in for being spoiled & entitled cunts.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bait for the bait god
    trolls for the troll throne

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They already exist.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dante gets to have a gf, sounds good to me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oh no, ive never seen dantes face, he looks like he devil might cry

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nothing is stopping you from headcanoning your space marine army...
    nothing is stopping you from kitbashing/modding your army...
    >everyone who does this, doesn't tournament play anyway
    nothing is stopping you & your friends from making your own bs lore/fan cannon...
    >acting like your from BS there are girls under the space marine power armor

    "there are no heros/winners in gothic grimdark fantasy, only anti-heros prone to tragedy who are always the villian's in another faction's/character's perspective/story."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you want female space marines so badly then just convert/kitbash or 3D print them, anon. You don't need GW to spoonfeed you them or give you the lore go ahead do you?

      Anyways Victoriaminiatures sells female heads and Anvil Industries sells not!sisters of battle heads that can work as female space marine heads if you want them so badly.

      This is a correct opinion.

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would sooner accept Transexual FtM marines than female marines

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I would sooner accept female marines than female marines
      ???
      Do you MtF marines? Because slanbesh already has those

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      lore can be changed, reationary

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >sees marines are men only
        >seething reaction ensues to force change
        Who's the reactionary here?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cope

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >established lore can be changed
        Found the retard

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AoS already did that
    Even went further and gave em boob plate

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's not a woman, that's an Alabama meth head named Wyatt Lester

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, and see how that it worked out, the hordes of girls suddenly loving to see themselves as thos stormcasts and joining the hobby by the tens of thousands.
      Wait no, they didn't! Wonder why...

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only if they wear bikini armor.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldn't be too bothered by it, but it would still be stupid for two different reasons that can boiled down to the same line: "Why even bother at that point?"
    In universe, it would be a bit silly to turn women into psuedo men just for a few extra space marines when you could have just used men to begin with and saved yourself some effort. Things would need to get significantly more desparate for that sort of thing to work. Like, the main Tyrannid force is finally here and they're even more numerous than the memes suggest kind of desperate.
    Out of universe, it would be dumb because the people who want female space marines wouldn't be happy, since they're identical to men, and the people who don't want female space marines wouldn't be happy, because female space marines exist.

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Would you believe me when I say majority of FSM beggers are trans?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Until very recently, Jain Zar was the only phoenix lord with a plastic model. And complaining about the lack of female representation in the eldar army. In the eldar army, for fuck's sake!
      I hate these people so much because their only goal is to piss people off and farm reactions on social media.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They have women, they are the sisters of SILENCE

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why even ask if you know it upsets people? It's like going "Would you be okay with me calling you a double-moron if I only do it occasionally?" It's just prodding behavior and unnecessarily provocative.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There is nothing about Space Marines that would change with the addition of women. You can still have make marines, you cab still have them be masculine, you can still have daddy issues, you can still have brother vs brother conflict. Theh can still be monsters. They can still be child soldiers, they can still be zealots.

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The thing is, female space marines have literally always been possible. What I mean by that is that this is a game setting, and there's nothing stopping you, if you wanted, to just say "this squad is wimmin". Gw aren't going to kick your door in and arrest you for going against the lore.

    This push for female space marines for muh representation is such bullshit. It's not got anything to do with representation.

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can already make up whatever fluff you want for your army. Whether or not anyone else is okay with it is largely irrelevant, though if it sucks you might get laughed at.

  47. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    only culture warrior retards give a single shit about defending space marines from being women. everyone complaining in this thread is a smelly virgin

  48. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. I love sister of battle. Honestly as a idea they beat space marines to me.

  49. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no cause then sisters would be irrelevant

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No they wouldn't.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The sisters' only defining quality is that they're women so yes they would.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's nothing feminine about them except their curves.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          > entire faction of religious nutters who believe so goddamn hard they can just say no to death, have strapped on heretics to walking torture engines to fight for the Emperor, have pipe organ tanks and literal angels

          > Their entire thing is being women

          So you don't actually play Sisters do ya?

  50. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I enjoy Warhammer because it lets me make cool models. And I like seeing other people's cool models. When people make cool looking lady space marines, I like it. When they make lameass female astartes, it sucks. It's all about the aesthetics.

    From a fluff point of view the cursed foundings were subject to so much geneseed experimentation that I have no objection to some Magos, in some corner of the galaxy, trying to make women into space marines. Fiddling with geneseed so it makes girls into superhuman killing machines is less strange than "oh we fucked up your geneseed so all you guys just burn endlessly" or "the psychic flaw caused by your Primarch's brutal death? we're fixing that in your DNA."

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fiddling with geneseed so it makes girls into superhuman killing machines is less strange than
      As a lorefag, I agree that there's room for that without even need for retcons. The problem is the end result. As I've said, it wold break core themes of the setting. Like the Imperium becoming a parlamentary democracy or something.

      Stories like a coursed funding Chapter made of FtM marines hiding it from the inquisition, or a female chaos marine warband thanks to Slasnesh/Fabius could work. But the main SM and Sisters should be kept as they are.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >core themes
        None of those themes are male exclusive. And they wouldn't go anywhere with the addition of women.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they are, see

          >masculine power warrior fantasy
          >the position and relationship they hold to humanity
          >would still be there
          No it wont't. It would be like making Little Women or Jane Austen novels with men: totally missing the point.
          40k Space Marines are about the male power fantasy AND the subversion of it via endless Lord of the Flies scenarios. It's unironically about male experiences taken to the most extreme cases.
          People who want marines with a pencil neck pretty girl head do not get it. There's a reason there's a real trope in 40k stories about women characters used to contrast their humanity with emotionally stunted marines.
          >ib4 muh representation
          SM are not really heroes, they're monsters or anti heroes at best. Trying to make them into aspirational figures is stupid and misses the point.

          and

          the making of war, soldier dehumanization, daddy issues, and brotherhood of SM are classic men issues and obssesions since the fucking Illiad, anon
          [...]
          Yes it does, because gender segregation is the point. That's why I used Little Women or Jane Austen as opposite examples. Those are all stories from the unique PoV of one gender. Mixing them introduces interactions that turn them into other thing. In the case of marines, it would humanize them more, which is a bad thing.
          There would be also the loss of the medieval retrograde themes of 40k, with marines as monks and sisters as nuns. The later would be robbed of their unique themes and identity.

          If you want "female representation" in 40k, demand making Sisters more relevant and varied, or more imperial guard/xeno stories with women protagonists, not dilluting what makes marines unique and spoiling it for the people that likes them as they are. I'd rather see marines take a back seat in the setting than turning them into another generic space troopers faction.

          It would also delete Sisters of Battle. The point of both factions is being gender segregated.
          If you want men and women fighting together, ask for more imperial guard, eldar, etc.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The point of both factions is being gender segregated
            I though the point of those factkons was that they're soldiers

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes, gender segregated soldiers. It was a deliberate decision. Remember that unlike those the guard was already mixed since day 0 of 40k.

  51. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sorry chuds. Science is settled.

  52. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't worry, GW is going to use the two lost primarchs and say that they were matriarchs, then create some stupid fluff about how one of them were rediscover and create an only female SM legion. This way, they can keep the males only from male geneseed and females only from female geneseed.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The missing legions were Female Space Marines
      >Got destroyed cause FSM's are too dangerous to be let live
      >Tried to establish themselves as a new race or something by fucking other space marines
      I still hate it but I kinda dig this angle

  53. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Women can't become space marines because the progenoid glands are super testicle replacements.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      See

      Don't worry, GW is going to use the two lost primarchs and say that they were matriarchs, then create some stupid fluff about how one of them were rediscover and create an only female SM legion. This way, they can keep the males only from male geneseed and females only from female geneseed.

      and

      >The missing legions were Female Space Marines
      >Got destroyed cause FSM's are too dangerous to be let live
      >Tried to establish themselves as a new race or something by fucking other space marines
      I still hate it but I kinda dig this angle

      .
      Just change testicle for ovary and they got it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why not change the warp to water, and then all the daemons will simply drown?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You mad?
          I'm not saying that I want this change, but the lost primarchs are a pretty easy excuse for GW to make somenthing like that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why excuse it? They can do anything, it's a story. Most of that's really gay and stupid though. Why not give the eldar a baby boom and the orks discover high society tastes? They can just do that. But it'd be gay and stupid.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That makes marines gay

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's lame

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Na it's cool, like some sacred band bullshit

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Sacred band?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Bro, 40k has always been super gay

  54. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep AoS and Fantasy out of your gay boylover mouths, unlike you keks I paint female and mixed units just fine.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >no female Bretts
      >only cool frogs
      Feels good man.

  55. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have yet to hear a single argument as to why we should have female Space Marines, it just turns into a whining circle

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's said before, there is no reason for us, the only reason is for GW, only if they think that they are going to make more money.

  56. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no, they cannot breed by themselves anon
    do you even understand what a supersoldier project is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Something that can go out of control easily

  57. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >People trying to use Cawl and Primaris as an excuse for women marines.

    Cawl's Primaris Project was literally done via the Emperor's work and the organs implanted all designed by the Emperor, Cawl just figured out how to implant them. They all still work via Geneseed which is literally make coded.

  58. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally all GW needs to do is show sisters in an orange paintjob with the name 'Firewolves Sisterhood of Adepta Sororitas' and a page long story about them clearing a space hulk.

    OP is just a dumb chud.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Trannies can't tolerate actual women anon, they want to force space marines to be women because it's perverting a male form to suit a female one.

      It's not about representing women, it's about destroying men.

  59. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't want female space marines because it will make internet porn artists stop drawing sisters of battle completely.

  60. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Don't care. Paint your models however you want, call them whatever. Only thing that actually matters is base size, anyway.

  61. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus Christ you people, touch grass!
    I have watched /tg/ have these asinine pro/anti fem marine holy wars go on for about 20 years now with nothing new to meaningfilly add to the argument, I can safely say I no longer care, I can't even find amusement in spectating the arguments, GW could debute their nee femaris marines or whatever, and I would just shrug and move on at this point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I can safely say I no longer care
      Why are you replying then?
      >and I would just shrug and move on at this point.
      Ok, move on, ciao, you will not be missed, grog.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Oh shit oh fuck I failed to make a single point!
      >ACKSHULLY it's YOUR fault for having opinions and caring about things
      God I hate post-ironic post-modernists. You can all go touch grass from the other side after you're six feet under.

  62. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no
    If we get female marines i want them to be borderline softcore porn bait
    I want them to be giant musclegirls with thin waists, sculpted abs and giant tits. I want to them to have legs capable of crushing an ork skull clad in thigh-high power stilettos.
    I want wild hair and luscious lips

  63. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If 40k was trying to be a serious setting then sure but its not.

  64. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No I wouldn't be OK because trannies would finally get their petty victory and proceed to dismantle the whole fictional universe with chud hysteria

  65. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fuck off Templin

  66. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because what this conflict is really about is putting another notch on the belt of the woke movement, and I want to deny those cunts satisfaction whenever possible.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I want to deny those cunts satisfaction whenever possible.
      You deserve each other

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every force creates an equal and opposite force, after all. When a great evil is a born, a great good must oppose it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          And that's why hate sex is a magical thing

  67. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No, because there's no point to changing it. It adds nothing, and it strips away the uniqueness of the Sisters of Battle, removes the marine ties to history as knightly orders of monks, and changes an established part of the lore.

    Worse, it becomes a case of 'men can't have something that is uniquely theirs, women must be added to it in the name of equality' disregarding cultural and religious norms in-universe and denying that men might have a unique perspective on something that women would interact with differently given their cultural, psychological and biological differences.

    Something being single gender only isn't necessarily a bad thing.

  68. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. First off no submission to the shit head woke marxist whatevers.

    Second we already have the female version in the sisters of battle and the silent sisters. Silent sister get sidelined enough as it is. Space marines are all male. Always must be. Fuck off and just go use one of the female armies if you want females.

  69. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No
    There's enough fucking space marines already
    Stop giving GW excuses to put time and resources into YET MORE FUCKING SPACE MARINES

  70. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did this guy never recover from his GF leaving him?

  71. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, why not?

    Can we also get femboy sisters of battle?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >female marines
      :c
      >more male ecclesiarchy models
      😀

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Challenge magazine is a different property.

  72. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    listenhere you transgenitals its simple:
    >buy some marines
    >greenstuff some tits on them
    >paint them whatever color takes your gay fancy
    good luck finding anyone without a mental illness to play against though

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