>wow down to 34k players a day
>blizz LOSING MONEY in the same quarter it whaled the frick out of diablo
>all their other prospects dead in a ditch
is blizzard dying the saddest vidya story since sega consoles? Has any other company destroyed their name in such an incredible way? How much are the competitors like gw2 and ffxiv to blame?
>34k players a day = 12.4 million players a year
How is this bad?
>tfw not multiplying myself every day and playing wow with my clones
I'd just frick my own ass at this point.
Really? You can't get anyone to do it for you? There's gotta be someone. Not every ass has to be prime ass to get fricked.
that's not how math work
it's still only 34k paying customers per year
It's not 34k paypigs, it's 34k paypigs concurrent. For measure, EvE Online had 20k concurrent players last i checked months ago but it might even be 25k now, and that's a niche MMO.
WoW should have between 500-700 concurrent at the very least. This is probably why the netease WoW mobile mmo got cancelled. They saw that the IP is toast.
Worse still, 34k players x 30 Days a month x $15 monthly subscription = $15,000,000 a month they make off of WoW alone
what if most of those people buy wow tokens with gold?
Someone had to buy the token at some point with real money, so they're not losing anything with tokens.
That's 510k a month dumbass.
How many a month use WoW tokens, how many buy other stuff on cash shop, how many sub and unsub, how many bought the yearly sub pack thing. Take all that and then subtract the cost of having to exist in California, paying devs and art team, lawsuits, Bobby's cut, and likely scrapped projects. A company can be pulling in a lot of money but I wonder what the costs are at this point and how much they can still lose while remaining profitable. CoD and mobile seems to be holding the company up. I think WoW is just something they've decided to put on maintenance mode since addicts will buy literal shit if it has WoW on it. I think they're fine with letting WoW died because they let a lot of other IPs die without caring.
This is a company that is trying to milk what's left before the company is merged under Microsoft. After which, the company will likely die and the IPs will be prostituted out like Halo has been. Don't expect anything from people who can't create and have no incentive to create anymore. Their future is set in stone, this is a managed decline.
yes, totally in maintenance mode and declining even though the biggest expansion they've ever made is coming very soon and they just hired an entire other studio to help work on it
also, they don't lose money on WoW tokens, the amount of people who actually make gold organically and buy WoW tokens is so miniscule that it's mathematically irrelevant, most gold that changes hands is people buying carries because modern zoomers can't be bothered to socially interact with anyone even in a fricking mmo, and the people selling carries convert that gold back into bnet balance, and they pay more than it was bought for to do so
>the biggest expansion they've ever made is coming very soon
??? DF is their least ambitious expansion yet you moronic blizzdrone.
>less raid bosses than ever before
>FOUR new m+ dungeons, pathetic compared to even sl
>uh your mount has lines of wooshing next to it
that's literally all they have planned. A few zones which are 50% mountain and all of your base spells put on a matrix they're pretending is a talent tree.
They also always hire for an xpac release then layoff once it's out, stop coping
>the biggest expansion they've ever made
As much as I didn't care for it, Cataclysm was the biggest expansion they've done.
To add onto what the other guy said, they had to hire another studio because the equivalent of their original studio with whichever experienced devs they had left all quit after the whole chick who killed herself from sexual abuse thing happened. Not only did they lose wtv original devs they had left from that, because some themselves were abusers, but many left out of disgust or at what the company was becoming. They can't even hire people like they used to because the companies pr has been completely torched. You used to want blizzard on your resume, not anymore.
good post
Anon why?
holy shit my sides
This made me laugh harder than anything has in months.
Seriously, I love posts like this. Bless them for existing to make our night better.
There's been some good threads with moronic anons lately, even if they are bait they've given me a good laugh. Like this thread.
Who taught you math you moron?
>Worse still
You have to go back
your math is beyond human comprehension
I want you all to look at these posts and commit them to memory. These are the type of people that frequent this board. Is this really who you want to be associated with? Get off this site and spend this time improving yourselves instead.
Yes. They're so stupid that by association I am the God Emperor of Ganker
they're probably smart outside of that. They probably know trannies are evil and the libs must be stopped and that's all that matters
for all we know those 2 posts were made by you and you just want us to leave so you can own the board and post furry fart porn all day.
Shit how did you know
Children having free access to the internet has been extremely detrimental to the quality of its content over time.
my man actually broke out the calculator just to frick up this bad
90 IQ pilpul be like
Congratulations, you may just have the lowest IQ on Ganker.
that's not how auschwitz and other juice warmer facilities worked
I can tell you work for Blizzard.
Why does Ganker have the dumbest post.
Blizzard wishes it was bringing in 34k new players every day.
saving this moronation for posterity
Math checks out
Destiny 2 has over 53k concurrent players on Steam on a daily basis, and that's only Steam numbers. Let that sink in.
Yeah but that's proven and "34k" is directly from OP's ass
It has 34k concurrent players on average at any given time
it's not 34k "new players" a day
Are you legit moronic?
Grand master tier bait
Blizzard fanboys are truly the dumbest cattle in existence. Minecraft fanboys have more intelligence than you.
American education
Is this the famed israeli math? No wonder they keep bringing up 6 gorillion.
>international boker face
So this is the power of Ganker...
This post got the biggest laugh out of me this year.
Painful to read.
this is beyond science
I feel like I'm not intellectually evolved enough to understand these calculations
>MY MATH IS BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
It doesn't matter how much money they're leeching from their players if the end result is that they're losing money. They're going to have to fire a bunch of people to cut costs. And since the people who actually make their games are going to be the first ones to be fired this is the beginning of the end for them.
average blizzdrone
The problem with this place is that I can't tell between bait and plain moronation.
had a genuine laugh for maybe 2 minutes straight bless your hearts anons
Do Blizzdrones REALLY?
Based morons.
Oy vey your israeli math is impeccable!
Blizzard employees
With avg of ~5K per server, thats 7 servers worth of players. A far cry from what was once a thriving and popular game. On top of that, the whole sharding thing was basically a way to jam the low population realms together so that low resource servers are combined.
>How much are the competitors like gw2 and ffxiv to blame?
0, blizzard is unironically killing itself.
This.
>haha let's pander to """"""""""people"""""""""" who hate us!
>oh no why are my players leaving?
>haha let's hire workers who have no investment in our work!
>oh no why is my profit drying up?
>haha let's HAVE SHITTY CUSTOMER SERVICE
>oh no why am I getting bad reviews?
These gays made and shit their bed.
> haha let's HAVE SHITTY CUSTOMER SERVICE
This is a big one. My wife thought I still liked WoW and bought me a cup from their merch store a while back. To no one’s surprise, it came in broken. When we called their customer support staff they asked for us to mail it back (which they wouldn’t pay for) for a refund.
And that’s just the physical products, they barely have any actual GMs anymore, and their time is spent on policing wrongspeak rather than banning bots since the bots pay for subs.
this 100%
Blizzard is run by low IQ genetic trash SJWs who have been lead to think they are gods gift to the earth.
The reality is that these "people" are absolutely garbage, have zero talent and have been riding off the back so those amazing devs that came before. Don't believe me? Look at ALL other AAA devs. They are all suffering the same issues and are collapsing.
Frick gaming. I am loving watching it die now. And frick you SJW devs. When the collapse comes, you will be executed without trial
Best post right here, all the other MMOs do are taking in the stinky refugees from WoW so at best it stops them from going back, at worst it burns these people out completely to the point where they'll never touch an MMO again
GW2 and FF are both snorefests. Actiblizzard only has itself to blame for destroying their own image and churning out diarrhea ever since wotlk.
>less revenue means "losing money"
Fricking israelites m8.
less profit than usual is "lost" money, yes
No its not, shekel sniffer
Less revenue means less investors and possibly losing existing investors.
Projects like this are often financed with loans, so the greentext is right.
Learn about opportunity costs, moron.
I agree with the sentiment but it's not like they're sticking by anything here. They're hemorrhaging profit because they have no talent.
They are covering the costs or not? In every case they are israelites, the problem and the approach just slightly differ.
For a israelite, every dollar not made is a dollar lost.
>mustard race doesn't understand finances
>Source: My Sphincter
yep, I'm thinking it's over.
Played DI for 4 days till I got sick of it, I'm over Blizzard, we had a good run but it's time to move on.
>blizzard
you people disgust me
>repackaging freemium browser game content as the main draw of your new expansion
blizzard is fricking creatively dead aren't they
Frick, how Adventure Story been?
That's Dragon Fable
I wouldn't be surprised if you told me Blizzard offices are actually scam call centers and the IPs and games they manage are just the front for indian scam rerouting into american households.
>wow down to 34k players a day
If you notice that something has no source, you shouldn't make another thread with the same claim.
Get woke, go broke
I JUST KEEP TUMBLING DOWN
its not enough to profit, i want to see a negative number.
>i want to see a negative number
my company is similar to activision size, and we'd be downsizing and laying off 1000's of employees if that was our growth numbers
ActiBlizz has Dragonflight + Diablo 4 + CoD MWII + Overwatch 2 + their new survival game, that are all coming up soon. They know they have tons of money coming in, so they aren't worried about downsizing.
>Dragonflight
Some addicts will return briefly but it's not going to change the trajectory of WoW.
>D4
Does anyone actually care still?
>CoD
Numbers have been in rapid decline on this IP as well, one of the few good things resulting from the rise of BR trash like Fortnite. Maybe it will finally force FPS to innova-hahahaha no that's never going to happen lmao.
>Overwatch 2
Who?
>Actiblizz survival game with zero marketing or build-up
Yea that'll just as soon get cancelled before the year is up. Who is even supposed to be working on that game? The survival genre fad is dead already too.
>I have absolutely no idea what I am talking, but I am still going to voice my shitty opinions
Thanks for your post.
>I have absolutely no idea what I am talking, but I am still going to voice my shitty opinions
Weird thing to bother to admit when that was already obvious anon, but thanks for confirming it I guess?
DF is a bunch of nothing (actually "a bunch" is generous here), DI killed the Diablo ip for people with any self-respect, fps are dead, ow is dead, their "survival explorer" game will never be released. What of that can you even argue
>DF is a bunch of nothing (actually "a bunch" is generous here)
Doesn't matter, it will still sell very well, and the reason why people usually quit is due to slow patches, which they have said they are gonna change up entirely in DF with a huge focus on faster patches and updates.
>DI killed the Diablo ip for people with any self-respect
You're completely out of touch if you don't think Diablo 4 will sell 10 million copies. Not to mention that there will also be MTX in the game that tons of people will buy, plus the inevitable expansion(s).
>fps are dead
CS:GO, Valorant, Apex, CoD are still dominating the market like crazy. Not sure what kind of universe you're living in, but it certainly isn't reality.
>ow is dead
Right now, yeah, but they are gonna get tons of casuals back in the game with OW2 for sure. Now whether or not they will be able to keep people playing, that's the question.
>their "survival explorer" game will never be released
This is nu-Blizzard. They are fine with releasing sub-par products. They have already spent too much money and time on it to cancel it. It's also a perfect clean slate for them to inject their SJW shit into from the foundation and up.
>which they have said they are gonna change up entirely in DF with a huge focus on faster patches and updates.
Imagine actually believing that they will deliver on that this time, unlike the other dozens of times they promised this. Remember all the way back in WoD when they said they'd do less patches but more expansions faster? LMAO less patches and slower expansions is all you morons got.
>D4 will somehow outsell D3 despite the damage done to the IP and almost no interest in the genre
Imagine being this moronic
>CS:GO, Valorant, Apex, CoD are still dominating the market like crazy.
CS:GO? Wat. What the frick does a Valve game populated by Russians have to do with this? Apex is a BR not an FPS. CoD isn't even top 10 on the market anymore Black person. The Genre as a whole got mogged hard by BR and is a shell of its former self.
>they are gonna get tons of casuals back in the game with OW2 for sure
On what grounds? OW2 has nothing to offer.
>This is nu-Blizzard. They are fine with releasing sub-par products.
Even a sup-par product needs to be finished, and they don't have the staff to make it work, if you've been sleeping for the past 2 years or so Acti/Blizz has been losing skilled staff at an insane rate which is why most of their IPs have been on life support, when they panicked and decided to work on D4 they had to reassign talent from other departments because of how little they have left to work with on newer projects.
Seriously find me anyone of notable skill still working at Blizzard in an actual development position.
>Imagine actually believing that they will deliver on that this time, unlike the other dozens of times they promised this.
This time WoW is ACTUALLY in a very real risk of truly dying though, and they know it too. It's entirely different.
>Imagine being this moronic
You are the moronic one. Clearly you have no clue about anything. Diablo 3 sold 3.5 million copies in its first 24 hours and then went to 6.3 million copies in its first week. At the end of 2012 it had sold +12 million copies. It had sold +30 million copies by August 2015. D4 selling 10 million copies is not outselling D3, dumbfrick.
>CS:GO? Wat. What the frick does a Valve game populated by Russians have to do with this?
You said that the FPS genre is dead.
>Apex is a BR not an FPS
Jesus christ, you a fricking moronic.
>CoD isn't even top 10 on the market anymore Black person
CoD is literally one of the most profitable FPS games in the entire FPS market, you idiot.
>On what grounds? OW2 has nothing to offer.
On the grounds that casuals have always like OW. They just felt that Blizzard abandoned the game.
>and they don't have the staff to make it work
Right. Blizzard with their 5000 employees does not have enough devs to make a survival game. Meanwhile we're seeing small indie teams shit out survival games on Steam constantly.
>This time WoW is ACTUALLY in a very real risk of truly dying though
They don't magically get more competent staff just because they are desperate, their design team won't magically work faster either.
>D4 selling 10 million copies is not outselling D3
If you're going by its entire lifespan, sure, but that's rather far detached from the topic at hand and ignores the facts that
>D3 was sold on built-up goodwill from D2
>It was a unique game for consoles after it got ported and Blizz still had starpower back then
>The IP has absolutely tanked since then so much even their D2 remake just flubbed out
>You said that the FPS genre is dead.
Not even me Einstein. Also how old do you think CS:GO is and how the frick do you figure it still being around is proof the FPS genre is doing fine and will sell well with new releases based on the retention factor of a game that's probably older than you are.
>Apex is totally an FPS bro! It's literally a first person game with guns! Deus Ex is also an FPS, so was Bioshock! :^)
b***h please.
>CoD is literally one of the most profitable FPS games
Yes. FPS was a very profitable genre, and CoD is one of the if not THE most prominent titles. That has absolutely zero relevance to the fact that the genre today is but a specter of its former glory, which is what we're actually talking about here. Stop licking batteries and apply some basic reading comprehension.
>On the grounds that casuals have always like OW
Right, so nothing. You know you can just admit that rather than trying to beat around the bush, right?
>Blizzard with their 5000 employees does not have enough devs to make a survival game.
>I know absolutely frick all about how development, business and projects work!
I asked you "Seriously find me anyone of notable skill still working at Blizzard in an actual development position." And from the fact that you dodged the question it's obvious you know you have nothing. That's all the proof you need, but won't admit.
>their design team won't magically work faster either
It will when they actually allocate more people to work on the game, rather than running the game with a skeleton crew.
>and how the frick do you figure it still being around is proof the FPS genre is doing fine
Probably based on the fact that it's literally the #1 game on Steam with a constant 400-900k concurrent players, and they have regular tournaments with filled events and stadiums.
>and will sell well with new releases
I already told you. CS:GO, Valorant, Apex, CoD, etc. are still insanely alive. Just go look at CoD 2019 and see how it sold 30 million copies. Just go look at how Apex earned 2 billion so far. This isn't even hard to see.
>of a game that's probably older than you are.
I was literally there playing the CS beta all the way back when M4 had the zoom function.
>b***h please.
The fact that you are even comparing Apex Legends to something like Deus Ex or Bioshock is insanely laughable. If you don't think that Apex Legends is an FPS games, then you also must not think that Warzone is an FPS game.
>That has absolutely zero relevance to the fact that the genre today is but a specter of its former glory
CoD MW2019 sold 30 million copies. Apex Legend earned 2 billion dollars. CS:GO and Valorant fills up events and stadiums. You have absolutely zero clue about what you talking about.
This will be my last reply to you. There's no point in even talking to someone like you who is clearly completely out of touch with something, yet is still trying to talk about it.
>It will when they actually allocate more people to work on the game, rather than running the game with a skeleton crew.
Anon....I loved wow, for years. I still miss it, just pvping, arenaing and world pvp, and nothing can replace it cause no other games do that kinda shit anymore. But you're delusional. You're full on in cope mode here, surely you can see that? They've lost like all their most talented devs, their senior devs, and are left with the diversity team. They can't even hire good people back because the company is pr poison now after all the shit came out about the sexual abuse, and stealing moms breast milk and other fricked up shit. At one point they were trying to hire through the battle.net launcher. And when they had their best devs and talent it still took them forever to make new patches and work.
What you are saying is spot on. However, all they need to do to keep WoW people happy is to release frequent updates that contains dungeons, raids and some extra fluff. It's not exactly rocket science that needs to be made to satisfy the WoW fanbase.
the new devs seem to be far more interested in looking for things to remove rather than adding new fun stuff, unfortunately.
The devs from Spellbreak haven't even begun doing any work on the game though. Like I said, they just got acquired like 30 days ago, they're slowly being integrated into the company.
>It will when they actually allocate more people to work on the game, rather than running the game with a skeleton crew.
From where? D4? That survival game? Do you think they just have idle staff waiting in the wings to be assigned work?
>Probably based on the fact that it's literally the #1 game on Steam
How is that relevant you imbecile. People playing CS;GO aren't waiting to buy the next "big" FPS, they will be playing CS;GO as they have for decades. This isn't relevant to Blizz sales prospects or the health of the genre any more than AOE2 is a sign of health for the RTS genre (AOE4 failed)
>I already told you. CS:GO, Valorant, Apex, CoD, etc. are still insanely alive
You have no idea how markets work. Please stop talking about these matters because this is just pathetic. The market is big but it's also shrinking, which is really, really bad for profit, which is what this whole thing is about.
>The fact that you are even comparing
Seriously did you drop out of middle school? How can anyone be this illiterate? What part of what I said made you think I was comparing them you completely baffling moron.
>B-but muh past saleesss!!
moron.
>Do you think they just have idle staff waiting in the wings to be assigned work?
They just bought out the Spellbreak studio to give them 100 devs that will be focused 100% on working on WoW. Once again, you are talking about something you have absolutely zero clue about.
>How is that relevant you imbecile
The original response was "the fps genre is dead". That's how it's relevant. Try to keep up with your 80 IQ brain.
>The market is big but it's also shrinking
How is it shrinking when everything I just told you are record breaking numbers that have never been seen before? 30 million copies of an FPS game. A F2P FPS game making 2 billion dollars. What the frick are you on about?
>What part of what I said made you think I was comparing them you completely baffling moron.
Because you LITERALLY did. Holy frick you are insanely stupid. You must genuinely not have any kind of education, and I am fully convinced that you're some inbred moron with an IQ of 80.
>moron.
Sales are literally the only evidence we have of how well a market is doing. The fact that you are even trying to dismiss hard evidence in favor of your personal and anecdotal feeling of how you personally think the market is doing is pure fricking insanity.
>100 devs
Anon. How many people were on Pandaria's dev team? How many do they have now? You seriously think 100 people who have no experience with the production of WoW are going to somehow compensate the difference AND exceed the performance? Are you completely lost it?
>The original response was "the fps genre is dead".
And you've shown no understanding of what that means. Here's a basic capitalist economics concept most children will learn at the age of 12-13: Stagnation is death. Just because people still play FPS games doesn't mean shit. Tons of people still play RTS and that genre is as dead as it gets (and revival attempts like AOE4 have all failed so far) You not understanding basic concepts is the issue here you idiot.
>How is it shrinking when everything I just told you are record breaking numbers that have never been seen before? 30 million copies of an FPS game. A F2P FPS game making 2 billion dollars. What the frick are you on about?
>Baby anon has no concept of marketing
There is only one number that matters; Growth, specifically in terms of Profit. Any other numbers you see, any other phrases (in fact, especially other phrases) like "record breaking" are marketing, the type that is meant specifically for morons, so thanks for that affirmation I guess.
>Because you LITERALLY did.
So yea, like I said; Completely moronic. I made a statement about how first person games with guns don't all belong in the FPS genre, and gave examples of first person games with guns that nobody in their right mind would call "FPS". There was no comparison whatsoever, and the fact that you cannot even explain yourself at all here is just further proof that you're a fricking moron.
>Sales are literally the only evidence we have of how well a market is doing
This just proves you have no ability to actually converse on this subject. Stop talking out of your ass, trash.
>AND exceed the performance?
They don't need to exceed anything. You don't seem to understand that the WoW fanbase would be happy if Blizzard just released timely updates with a few dungeons and 1 raid, plus some extra fluff on a fairly regular basis. It is entirely doable.
>And you've shown no understanding of what that means
MW2019 30 million copies sold. Apex 2 billion dollars earned. CS:GO and Valorant filling stadiums. I'm just gonna keep repeating this, because it is hard evidence that blows the frick out of your personal and anecdotal perception of things.
>There is only one number that matters; Growth, specifically in terms of Profit.
Great, so you agree with me. MW2019 30 million copies sold. Apex 2 billion dollars earned. CS:GO and Valorant filling stadiums. These are all hard evidence of growth.
>I made a statement about how first person games with guns don't all belong in the FPS genre
Please enlighten me what you would call Apex Legends then. And after that, please enlighten me and tell me what you would call Warzone.
>Stop talking out of your ass, trash.
MW2019 30 million copies sold. Apex 2 billion dollars earned. CS:GO and Valorant filling stadiums. I'm just gonna keep repeating this, because it is hard evidence that blows the frick out of your personal and anecdotal perception of things.
>They don't need to exceed anything. You don't seem to understand that the WoW fanbase would be happy if Blizzard just released timely updates with a few dungeons and 1 raid, plus some extra fluff on a fairly regular basis. It is entirely doable.
Sure thing buddy. 100 new people are going to turn this ship around and compensate for years of employee turnover and talent drain and quickly produce content that keeps the wowbabs entertained, Blizzard finally figured it out after almost a decade of losing players :^)
>I'm going to keep spamming irrelevant drivel that you've refuted because it's all I have and I can't stop talking!
You do you, I guess?
>These are all hard evidence of growth.
>Drop in overall sales and profit is proof of growth because they said it broke records (because they finally counted digital sales when they previously used physical copies as a metric and other such ploys as evidenced by a huge drop in actual profits) marketeers told me!!
Bleat on you gormless sheep, scream it from the walls!
>Please enlighten me what you would call Apex Legends then.
Why not just go with what it calls itself; "a free-to-play hero shooter"?
>Blizzard finally figured it out after almost a decade of losing players :^)
Yes, they unironically did. They have an entirely new management. They have said they are no longer gonna do any borrowed power. Everything they do now will be focused on permanent systems instead of throwaway systems. Their team is bigger. They are aware that WoW is no longer immortal and that they are losing the goodwill of players. There's many things that you could go educate yourself about if you actually wanted to.
>Drop in overall sales
It's not a drop in sales. It's the exact opposite. It's insane growth. What the frick are you smoking? Go ahead and show me other FPS games that have sold 30 million copies.
>Why not just go with what it calls itself; "a free-to-play hero shooter"?
That's not a genre. Tell me what you would classify Apex Legends as if someone asked you to describe the game. Then tell me what you would say for Warzone.
>Yes, they unironically did.
They should be glad suckers like you exist, I guess.
>They have said they are no longer gonna do any borrowed power.
Yea we never heard THAT before either. Lmao.
>They are aware that WoW is no longer immortal and that they are losing the goodwill of players.
Anon that ship literally sailed years ago. They have been losing players for a DECADE now, and have made all these exact promises before. Every. Single. Expansion. Blizzdrones get relentlessly mocked because for years now it's been the same tired old "THIS time they will fix everything! They listened to the players! They have a new person in charge" etc.
>There's many things that you could go educate yourself about if you actually wanted to.
HAhahaha oh the sweet irony, coming from someone so utterly clueless about business and marketing spamming the thread with his clueless bullshit about business and marketing. Good job anon, you actually made me laugh again with that one.
>It's not a drop in sales. It's the exact opposite. It's insane growth.
>Profit goes down: "It's insane growth!!"
OK.
>Go ahead and show me other FPS games that have sold 30 million copies.
First off; Sales for CoD 2019 are only 6.3 million. Destiny blows it out of the water already. CoD 2019 isn't even in the top 5 Black person.
>That's not a genre.
Bruh.
>Tell me what you would classify Apex Legends as if someone asked you to describe the game
I would just go with what it calls itself; "a free-to-play hero shooter" I wouldn't call it an FPS same as I wouldn't describe bioshock as an FPS or La Maluna as a platformer.
>Profit goes down
Please show me ANY kind of proof that the profits of the FPS genre have gone down.
>First off; Sales for CoD 2019 are only 6.3 million
Modern Warfare earned over $600 million within its first three days of release, making it the highest-selling game in the franchise during the current console generation and breaking several sales records, including the best digital opening in Activision's history, the most digital copies sold for a game in three days on PlayStation 4, and the best Call of Duty launch on PC. On December 18, 2019, Activision confirmed Call of Duty: Modern Warfare had earned over $1 billion in revenue, and by September 2020 the game had surpassed more than 30 million copies sold across various platforms.
It's also ranked 20 here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games
>I wouldn't call it an FPS
Why not? Because it has classes? If so, then would you not call TF2 an FPS game either? Or is it because it's a BR? If so, then would you not call Warzone an FPS game either?
>It's also ranked 20 here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_video_games
Lets break it down, because you know so little of how these numbers work that you're easily baffled by them. First off, let's actually go to the source used in what you're citing here; https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-sells-30-million-copies/
Oh... it's fricking nothing, surely we can find something actually legit: https://investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/call-duty-modern-warfare-1-most-played-call-duty-multiplayer
So here's an actual source. Note the very starting word here; investor. This is an advertisement for investors. This is (somewhat) important so don't forget about that. "Modern Warfare has outpaced... since launch in six years." Here's another obvious tell; No mention about copies sold, just hours "played" (which counts hours sitting in menus. Let's leave the minute of suggestive phrasing on player counts for a second and go on to actual sales claims: "Through November 2019, Modern Warfare Became the Top-Selling Premium Game of 2019 in the U.S. Year-To-Date, Also Crossed $1 Billion in Worldwide Sell-Through"
Another obvious flub here; "Top-selling
<<<<Game" which is a term they've defined themselves. This is like a speedrunner creating their own category and bragging about being the best in it. They also mention 1 billion here, which considering it counts DLC and other affiliated sales, and affirms that the total units moved on the actual CoD game itself falls well short of even 10 million. Sure sounds nice to investors though (but please hush about the fact that MW2 sold twice as much! We're not stagnating or regressing guise!!)
>Modern Warfare earned over $600 million
That's income, not profit. Look to actual yearly/quarterly reports if you want to find out the difference but I've spoonfed you enough
I’m replying because your post is good. To everyone who doesn’t understand this post or gets angry about it, this is why you’re poor.
actual good post
>They are aware that WoW is no longer immortal and that they are losing the goodwill of players. There's many things that you could go educate yourself about if you actually wanted to.
if that was true why did they remove flirts, emotes, jokes, spitting on players, soon to remove genders from game, removed paintings, dialogue and other shit despite how controversial it was?
Honestly, it's time to grow up. It's 2022 and the rest of us have realized that those sorts of things are... kinda gross, to be honest... If you're that hooked on immature shit like spitting on people or jerking off to pixels in bikinis then... well... I don't know what to say to you, I guess. The rest of us will be moving on and enjoying the bright new future of our favorite franchises.
>This time WoW is ACTUALLY in a very real risk of truly dying though, and they know it too. It's entirely different.
It's staggering to me every single time I witness this cycle restarting. Blizzard fanboys actually never learn.
I fully expect Dragonflight to shatter initial sales records.
>I fully expect Dragonflight to shatter initial sales records.
I don't think it's in a position to beat Shadowlands because of various factors(one of which simply being COVID keeping far more people indoors back then) but I'd be surprised if it doesn't sell well. Probably less than Shadowlands but better than most expansions.
you know whhat will happen?
the same what happen the last times.
they have fun for ( because wow andy head kicks in ) 1 Month.
And than they will shit on it, bithc,seeth and still playing it......
Some of them are beyond saving.
You are forgetting the portion in that circle where they stop playing WoW completely until the expansion comes out.
>Doesn't matter, it will still sell very well, and the reason why people usually quit is due to slow patches, which they have said they are gonna change up entirely in DF with a huge focus on faster patches and updates
HOW? They lost most of their dev teams, almost all their senior members and most talented devs. Whats left are the diversity squad. They had to hire an additional studio to even attempt to make another expansion while shadowlands was left undone and without any content for what, like 2 years? How are they gonna make content faster than ever with less devs than they had before? And all the talent gone?
>HOW?
>They had to hire an additional studio
You just answered your own question. Also, they didn't hire that team to "attempt to make another expansion" considering that DF has been in development for like 3 years by now and they acquired the Spellbreak team like 30 days ago.
>get woke go broke
Clockwork. At least they won't be a toxic male company when they file for bankruptcy.
Worse is, the woke feminists will still get work, and they'll 100% infect any place they get hired at
>revenue fell
>profit fell
It's time to give Kotick another $100M package!
But Blizzard were a bunch of "woke" and literal Californians since the very start.
>t.revisionist
Not even close to an argument, moron.
There's a difference between "I'm a milquetoast liberal" and "I'm a brainwashed, talentless, fanatical communist troony".
>milquetoast liberal"
Oxymoron. The real reason is that liberals have become leftists.
Revisionist liar. They were not corporate imperialists, they did not believe in "the message" and enforce it against their customers.
>There were always black Britons!
>a game thats premise is a genocidal race war is woke from the start
Nice gaslighting homosexual.
Good try moron
everything tanked at the end of 2021
Is this a joke? The poz levels in WoW have been steadily increasing since BFA or even earlier. Some of the fricking Suramar quest line in Legion felt like a psy-op for the Hillary campaign.
>Suramar quest line
Tell me more about it, anon.
to be fair "woke" is "just" the shit toppings on crap like diablo immortal and warcraft III reforged
There is nothing wrong with this dragon doooood
FF andies being weird doooood
This a perfectly fine warhammer fantasy dragon dooooood
back to the roots and dragons dooood
Already preordered - we are going home dood
>rubs one out to scalie porn
there it is dood
awww man
there it is dood
undead is weak to holy damage
It's crazy how ugly she actually is if you block the breasts out and that's with makeup and probably a few minor surgeries already wow what a genetic dead-end who will age like milk.
>worked night shift for years
>lived at night slept during the day
>know this feel all too well
bro the sunlight actually fricking hurts so godamn bad when you're not used to it.
i dont get this image
bee + gross loser = ???
It's the frickin wasp andies dooooood
The wasps are in my walls dood, they're whispering to me at night with their constant buzzing, laughing at me failing to type on Vykas, I just can't anymore, I'm done streaming, I quit, dude. I am done...
Anyway 8 hour intro tomorrow then half an hour of me farming mounts .don't forget to subscribe to my ₑₓ girlfriend's OnlyFans, PEACE!
That israeli rat's got a OF?
No you just can’t read properly.
Hi asmon, I didnt know you posted here!
dont care abou this dead troony game anymore
>>rubs one out to scalie porn
>there it is dood
kek
F2P Fresh classic with actual gms would probably inspire some to come back. oh btw if you filter the word "why" it makes Ganker much nicer, seems to be the word of choice for bot posters.
>f2p wow
Actually have a nice day if you think this would be fun. Imagine WoW but riddled with fricking 3rd worlders like indos.
You don't need to, just go play on Warmane and you'll see. A bunch of poorhomosexual Balkans, Indonesians and Chinks stinking up the server.
Kronos was the best wow experience I've ever had before it died when classic released.
Shut up you poorhomosexual 3rd world Black person
I'm just israeli with my money and don't want to give anything to SJW blizzard but like classic wow enough that I'd play it for free. I likely have more in savings than everyone in this thread put together because I don't waste money on moronic things like you do. Could you go out and buy a new car today with cash? I can.
a new car is as high as your savings go? absolute lmfao
You don't have more than 50k in the bank you moronic gaymer.
wow 50k, damn m8 youre set for life christ lmfao
>How much are the competitors like gw2
I don't understand the question. Even if WoW shuts down right now, gw2 willnever top it. It has no content, cosmetics and the end game pvp/pve is dogshit and extremely unfun.
pour one out for a real one
Wasn't he a millionaire? People lionizing him because he took a header out a window was pretty gross. The guy was a piece of shit.
didn't he spend all his money on his game or someshit
Im not trying to suck his dick or anything but how was he a piece of shit? He was just a boring eceleb like the rest of them, but it's not like he fricked people over or anything.
He was very bipolar, so he sometimes said some stupid shit in his really manic phases, and people cling onto that, despite it being like 1% of his streaming career.
he was deadbroke and killed himself because he didnt wanna do the streaming gig to earn his money back anymore
his dad was wealthy once but after his brother killed himself over two decades ago they've burnt through every asset
overall reckful was /ourguy/
He was microdosing shrooms to treat his depression and bipolar disorder
Multi millionaire streamers need gofundme...
The racket never stops, even after they are dead.
He was getting ripped off like crazy by the "devs" he hired to make his Club Penguin-inspired MMO. People have speculated that he probably didn't have much money left by the end.
>He was getting ripped off like crazy by the "devs" he hired to make his Club Penguin-inspired MMO.
based codemonkeys
Should have saved up some fricking money before you died if you cared about being buried somewhere expensive.
And they were claiming that the diablo thing made them a shitton of money
In what are they wasting so much money?
7 digit checks for the CEOs?
I haven't enjoyed a modern game since 2016
it is always the same woke, anti white male stuff again and again.
mating press preformed by asmongold sex
and yet it STILL WON'T FRICKING DIE
actually the trannies who still play and fund this game only have so much time ahead of them. Not the most reliable playerbase if you ask me.
>some random 14troony finds a random article on an irrelevant backwater clickbait site with no source that says WoW has 34k concurrent players, despite Blizzard keeping these numbers 100% internal for years
>Ganker will spend the next year spouting this sourceless number with no context
I don't even play WoW but come on, get a fricking grip
It's not even from the article in the image, which points out Blizzard gained 5 million users since last quarter.
yeah I can't remember the site name, but someone actually found it in the first thread someone said 34k from yesterday, it was some moronic name that had nothing to even do with gaming like webtuner or something
blizzard gained 5 million maus in the same period it launched diablo scamortal, which has like 10 million+ downloads. How bad were the losses otherwise to gain so few players?
That’s a worthless metric when they count one person who plays cod, wow, and classic as 3 MAUs. Add multi boxers in the mix and your in game population has dwindled even more.
Worse. It counts chinese bot accounts
>new bot account from a chinese net cafe
NEW USER
>bot gets banned
>new bot account from a chinese net cafe
NEW USER
etc.
Yeah so Wrath actually had 1 million players
What's your point
Wrath actually had 12 million real active subscriptions. The game was gigantic back. Even the most normie of normies knew about the game and it even had ads on TV in all countries around the world. The MAU count wasn't a thing back then either, they were completely open with all investors about extremely specific numbers.
how do you make shit tons of money off of mobile trash and still manage to make less than you did before? were they just tossing money down a pit or something?
34k is the MINIMUM that WoW has at any given point. Concurrent players. We don't know how many people are playing that game during normal or prime hours.
If we look at Steamcharts and the differences between dead and alive hours for other games - WoW might have around 70k-90k concurrent during its best time of the day.
Also: TBC Classic has ten times the parses that retail has. So most of those players are on classic with only a small fraction playing retail actively.
I wouldnt use that number as anything meaningful. I stopped playing during TBCC but in regular Classic, I knew multiple people who had multiple characters to raid with. One guy literally had all his character slots full with raiders and thats all he did all fricking week because of GDKP. There was several like him, even I had 4 characters I could raid with because of how easy it is to make money in GDKPs.
There isnt any reason to grind BGs all day like in classic so it makes sense to see so many more parses in TBCC.
The unsustainable design of wow is finally catching up to itself
WoW could have 3 billion players and would still be dead. Absolutely trash game that miraculously managed to get worse over time. These wow trash talk threads are the only way blizzard shills can still make people talk about their boring game no one cares about anymore.
>is blizzard dying the saddest vidya story since sega consoles?
Absolutely not. Sega was loved until their dying day, their biggest flaw was in poorly distributing their product. Meanwhile, Blizzard went full homosexual long ago. They are cancer.
furry writers
furry artists
furry devs
furry players
furry game
ill take furries over trannies any day
ok body type 1
you guys somehow managed to out-troony the troony game too. Modern wow has not a single shred of dignity to stand on
you're getting both at the same time
There's no way they're actually down that bad lmfao
oh look it's another disinfo thread with made up numbers where haters circlejerk each other
>defending this
furry writers
furry artists
furry devs
furry players
furry game
not their problem anymore. did you forget that microsoft bought them
>>wow down to 34k players a day
what?
>saddest
No, what? Frick blizzard, this is a happy story. This is not at all comparable to what happened to the dreamcast.
damn drag'thyr look like THAT?
>Why yes I frequent the Orgrimmar orphanage to read Steamy Romance Novels to little children, how could you tell?
thankfully Azeroth doesn't have a first ammendment
This is butchery. Boggles the mind how it's even legal.
>This is butchery. Boggles the mind how it's even legal.
because its profitable.
SOVL vs soulless moblie game shit
I remember seeing the Mastiff model initially & immediately wanting to be a Worgen Hunter. Now I see all the nu models for WoW & its just furry deviant art bs. WoW lost its artistic touch & people keep saying THE ART TEAM IS THE BEST PART OF BLIZZARD
It's the same thing as saying the undigested corn in a pile of shit is the best part of the shit.
the art team is great. the art director is the problem
*saves the game*
can't wait for their powerful 14th place finish in the next raid tier
I'm pretty sure doing that to women counts as a hatecrime.
Can't wait to hear a full raid of troony voices in the comms beating the "women's cup" or whatever they're doing
>women's cup
they would do that. that'd be fricking hilarious. think blizzard would stealth nerf the boss while they're fighting it to have a world first clear?
I really hope so, sounds extremely entertaining
Nagura is a E-prostitute who is scared of doing porn to continue relevant
I laff everything when woman have to share their special positions and power roles with mentally ill men. Remember, even men make better women
the faster that happens the faster women take the TERFpill. Let one enemy destroy another
TERF beliefs among women are spreading like wildfire. You see it bubbling out in the open lately but a lot of it is still kept hidden. Lesbians are becoming huge TERFS for example because trannies are trying to erase their identity and take over our spaces.
>our spaces
Rules.
>trannies are trying to erase their identity and take over our spaces.
good. you fricks wanted endless diversity and progress, and stabbed men in the back for it, made white men the devil. now suddenly progress is a problem when its your turn? you get what you fricking deserve. enjoy the new world you helped create.
>Women* in gaming
>* also gays, trannies, and pedos 🙂
You get what you deserve.
>Liquid women
>allows people that even by their own definition aren't women
ok
i once got reported in a battle ground by the opposing premade team cause i want for the healer as destro warlock.
said healer was a troll priest and a woman and they reported me for stream sniping and sexism.
a gm actually came and talked to me and we both laughed at theme cause pvp and shit.
i didnt even know the woman but it turned out its some chick that had 5k or so regular viewers. some of her simps even talked to me ingame and wanted to "shame" me and i made fun of them in trade chat with half the server joining in.
i tell you what sylvanas is a magical server, full of the most wonderful assclowns and buttheads.
im tempted to resub for dragonflight just so i can have deep conversations about random shit with my sylvanas bros.
>*snake* what the frick is a liquid another enemy of the state!?
still have the best raids
still have the best pvp
still have the best solo content
still have the best rp
yeah, I'm thinking wow stays on top
>herp derp yup me think WoW stays on top *fart noises*
But no king rules forever when FFXIV surpassed WoW for the first time in gaming history.
>he actually defends poorly designed and tuned raids
Why not just play Ever Quest for PvE if time it takes to do content is your main factor on if something is good? That shit took longer than anything in nu-WoW
>wow is gated by gear, xiv is gated by skill shitpost
reminder that Echo, WoW's top guild, got broken and filtered out by Dragonsong Ultimate
at least they tried unlike limit lmao.
It stands out that they also actually *could* try fairly easily, unlike WoW where high tier raiding is gated behind ludicrous grind, a point wowbabs think proves them better because "wooooow why don't FFXIV players do mythic raiding then!"
cope
Didn’t fricking limit look at fights ahead of time and lied to make himself look better? I thought he quit a long time ago.
They gave up? That's pretty funny kek. I know they were getting hard walled and getting snippy with each other, didn't think they'd give up entirely though.
It must be hard without an addon holding your hand. Though to be fair Dragonsong is much more difficult than anything WoW could have prepared them for.
Does he want to talk about how BFA-troonylands had some of the worst tuned raid bosses ever?
To the point that most were mathematically impossible to beat and had to be hot fixed with CERTAIN teams where on them so they could keep the "race" going?
Will he talk about how tier gear quite literally timegates fights unlike FF.
Will he talk about the insane gold cost and money cost the teams have to shell out to even get into these "world first races"?
No he won't. He only cares about his payments from blizzard and his job staying relevant off of WoWs survival.
At first I didnt get it. Then I did. Frick you. Frick this stupid place.
What point is he trying to make here?
That it took them this long to kill the boss?
It sounds like he just made it out to say they're idiots for taking so long to get the boss mechanics down.
>still have the best raids
nah their raids are old and busted
>still have the best pvp
that minigame has never been good and no one really plays it unless they dump gear you can't get anywhere else on it.
>still have the best solo content
what solo content?
>still have the best rp
you can't be serious.
>yeah, I'm thinking wow stays on top
top of the pile waiting for a flush
>still have the best raids
If you super hardcore then yeah. But they have to design their raids around the all addons which is super aids.
>still have the best pvp
Lmao.
>still have the best solo content
Please be bait.
Gw2 doesn't have good pvp though
WoW is the only mmo where duels are enjoyable
How'd wow reach this point bros...
you know how
Im willing to bet Acti-Blizz is being crashed hard so that a hostile corporate takeover by Microsoft will be in the works and they use all their available resources to make WoW 2 a virtual reality game which will be exactly like the first game for nostalgia reasons except you can plug your nervous system into the game and fulfill your trans fantasies in goldshire.
>is blizzard dying the saddest vidya story since sega consoles?
If by 'sad', you mean 'hilarious'. Watching one of the most beloved game companies of the 2000s destroy itself with stupid decisions over and over is fricking glorious to witness.
>How much are the competitors like gw2 and ffxiv to blame?
How is blizzard's greed and incompetence the fault of competitors that rarely even acknowledge WoW's existence?
>wow down to 34k players a day
Ah yes the twice-daily blizz marketing thread full of fake or pointless info just to stir up discussion about the game. Can't wait for the exact same screenshots of black npc's, quest text from old expansions that mention gay people, or some epic forum screenshots telling people they unsubbed from the game!
Holy mother of Blizzard employee copium.
>is blizzard dying the saddest vidya story since sega consoles?
It's not sad because they willfully did it to themselves.
>wow down to 34k players a day
you idiots keep treating that as a small number but having 34k concurrent players would be a massive success for most online games
>but having 34k concurrent players would be a massive success for most online games
Multiversus - 142,596
Lost Ark - 294,245
Elden Ring - 62,183
CS:GO - 453,800
DOTA 2 - 342,361
TF2 - 78,071
And those are current numbers. Literally RIGHT NOW numbers. Team Fortress 2 came out in 2007. It's a fricking 15 YEAR OLD GAME and it still has TWICE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PLAYING IT than WoW does.
These are the top played games on steam, so if that's all you could find then I'd say WoW is doing pretty good.
>WoW has more players than Elden Ring, the most successful game of the year
morons think this is a dunk lmao.
You understand that 62k is a bigger number than 34k, yes?
>a solo game with multiplayer options has less people than an active mmo after everyone literally finishing with all endings at this point wow!
the cope, also is higher than wow still lmao
>morons!
Maybe re-read what you just posted, moron.
It's actually insane how many morons here on Ganker genuinely believe that 34k number. It's just someone who pulled it out of their ass. Don't you think it would GIGANTIC news everywhere if WoW was actually down to only 34k players?
WoW still has 1 million subs at the very least across retail + classic + TBC + upcoming WotLK.
it is gigantic news which is why people won't shut up about it, but who outside of us morons and the census sites publishing is going to report on it? The only sites still covering wow are the no-negativity shills like wowhead which will never publish bad news lest they earn the ire of the maze rats
Didn't it go down to like 100k a few years ago? Is another drop down to 34k really that shocking and newsworthy? Honestly I'd have probably guessed even lower than that.
1 million subs, of which more than two thirds are Chinese which actually pay by the hour and are worth much less, but sure, 1 million subs.
Anon there is a reason why WoW has been getting ever more cross server shit while successful games keep having to talk about expanding server capacity. WoW is trying desperately to keep what few people remain from noticing how dead the game is by putting multiple server's worth of people in an area.
The only successful MMO in existence by your measurement is the shitty final fantasy one.
Nah, steady numbers are good. FFXIV, OSRS, EVE online and GW2 are all "successful". WoW is also still technically successful and will remain relevant assuming they stop hemorrhaging players, but they have a huuuuge issue of using linear progression and invalidating old content so they will always struggle with retention and renewal. OSRS has a ton of shit to do at any point and FFXIV old content always retains some relevance due to how it's designed. New players in WoW are encouraged to rush to max level and raid, new players in FFXIV will often get stuck on side content like PotD, Eureka etc. among other side activities that remain relevant and entertaining. WoW will bleed out unless they figure out how to make old content appealing outside of just "classic x" every time.
Blizzard deserves to go bankrupt
I thought WoW had millions of subscribers?
My research and estimates suggest that it's likely somewhere within the 760k-900k range right now with that number expected to drop even further over the coming months. Dragonflight's release will of course bump those numbers up in Q4 but based on trends from the previous expansion releases over the past four years, this is expected to be a temporary rise before falling to an even lower number than before.
>34k concurrent players
Damn that is dying fast.
Not as bad as Battlefield 2042 (>1k players on Steam at one point).
here's your succubus bro
I don't care if the incubus is in the game. What I care about is the blatant hypocrisy of the furry Black person homosexuals working on this game openly drool over the incubus while they give the succubus pants and replace paintings of women with fruit.
Because western societies made it that male sexuality is cringe and women sexuality is empowering.
>sexualizing women bad
>sexualizing men good
its optional morons
how is blizz so pozzed they won't even allow a single depiction of female (female (pussy-owner)) sexuality anymore, while the competition is appeasing coomers left and right
But ffxiv is also sexualising males a lot
and? i'd rather everyone get some pie than no one
>But ffxiv is also sexualising males a lot
Good.
based.
Problem is wow only caves to furgays and trannies, ffxiv caves to coomers and fujos.
And that is better than what blizz is doing and only appealing to one specific subsection of the player base instead of doing it the XIV way and just putting coomer costumes on everything regardless of sex
Is this a new option or did they actually swap the Succubus for that?
I wish there was a MMO where I could play as a vampire and pretend to be a vampire lord awakening from a long slumber and gradually regaining the powers he used to have.
You are literally describing V Rising, except it's not a fully fledged MMO and has 100 player servers instead.
WoWbucks are the dumbest morons on the planet
LoL players take that spot. They are literally getting whipped 24/7 by Riot and enjoying it. At least in WoW there's still some minimal enjoyment to be had for some people.
>At least in WoW there's still some minimal enjoyment to be had for some people.
need proof of this
say something nice about her
How many demigods did this one (s)lay? Last time I touched WoW was during some trial of Legion where I noped out after a zone kept going on about some super Tauren that kicked Tychondrius' ass singlehandedly before moving on and doing the same to deathwing which was so utterly moronic and embarrassingly written I noped right the frick out.
wowbucks are you ok
are you ok wowbucks
>more mobile shit
the entire company is soicuck app devs now pushing for the iphone market
34k players... and more than half are bots....bros....
You know I'm personally amazed WoW has lasted as long as it has. I don't deny that the current thing has fricked its regular player base, but I feel it was the straw that broke the camel's back rather than being the main thing to bring it all down.
The decline has been happening since cataclysm. The game never surpassed its peak numbers with wotlk. How long they still manage to hold on until now is still pretty impressive.
Can't really praise them for much. aside from that and apparently dungeon and raid design (no personal experience though, havent played since early cata and never reached 85). Everything else is shit.
Dungeon and raid design is schizophrenic af, sometimes it's good to great, sometimes it's miserable
Dragonflight will still sell 5 million copies, and so will the next expansion, and the next, and the next. WoW ain't going anywhere.
Did Shadowlands even sell that many? I can't imagine modern WoW expansions sell well.
Shadowlands sold 3.7 million copies on the first day alone and became the fastest selling WoW expansion of all time.
That can't be true.
It's true, but it's also the expansion with the largest player dropoff after release
WHERE IS THE FRICKING SOURCE FOR 34K PLAYERS?
There is none. It's just Ganker proving themselves to be 80 IQ time and time again, by blindly believing everything.
Why are you even asking? Just play along with it.
>2022
>Still trying to claim wow is kill
You dumb mother frickers don't realize this shit is going to out live you do you? You WILL die before the last player logs off of the final world of warcraft server. You know this to be true. Knowing your cheetoh eating mt dew chugging lard ass you won't even out live EQ.
Sorry cultist bro but it's near the end. Even the most buckbroken shills are losing interest or moving on, it's not 2012 anymore
You know these comments are pretty similar to what EQ h8 looked like in 2004. You pathetic doomsayers whom wait around decades for something to die are hilarious. I will repeat, you are going to die before that franchise does buddy. May it haunt you unto your death bed, you'll be a crippled pathetic shell covered in your own piss and shit and still you will know. Somewhere out there someone is playing WoW on your last day alive. Man your life must SUCK.
Yeah EQ is really still booming
Still has enough subs to be profitable. Still gets updates. WoW isn't ever going to die especially now that M$ is involved.
so profitable they had to scam their loyal whales on EQNext, right?
There will be a dusty ass PS2 dev unit still running the latest Final Fantasy XI events when wow dies and I’m gonna cum
>similar to what EQ h8 looked like in 2004
they were right, the hype completely died off. No one plays and there's nothing new coming to that trash heap ever again
EQ is very much alive and kicking both on retail and private servers
homie I literally play an MMO older than WoW daily. Has maybe 2000 active players. You're high as frick if you think WoW is getting shut down.
>i-it's not dead it has 400 people playing every day!
Have fun with your empty shit game from 20 years ago moron, don't forget to spend $50 on the yearly empty maintenance mode expansions for the next decade
No proofs. Cope
>wow is on top
WE'RE ON TOP FRICK ALL THESE FAKE WOW KILLERS
>wow not on top anymore
h-hey it's not all about being the number 1 okay, quality over quantity
>private servers now make up a sizable portion of WoW players
KEK
The last good game Blizzard released was Lord of Destruction. The second they trashed Blizzard North is the instant they became garbage.
Sure China was able to prop WoW for a while but now there are plenty of devs willing to bend over to the whims of the CCP.
It's going to be Microsoft problem
How is blizzard even alive? Ganker has claimed it is dying for, like....9 or 10 years? Slowest death ever.
Anon, Microsoft quite literally bought them
how come none of you Black folk seem to know what CONCURRENT means ?
>>wow down to 34k players a day
Proofs? It's not in that screenshot.
Proof? What the frick do you think this is? Also going to topkek when WotLK launch brings in more players than FF14 has. Blizz made their game so perfectly people will come back and pay for it again over a decade later rofl.
they are morons. its 34k concurrent players per day, and its probably the average concurrent players per day and doesn't include peak play times like raid reset days.
The "source" which is completely made-up, by the way, even says that it would be 34k concurrent at the LOWEST possible.
yeah, go look at steam charts
games only generally gain or lose around 30% between peak and offpeak
so what, wows concurrent work is 34k, and lets be generous and say its peak concurrent is 50k then?
if 34k isn't even their daily peak concurrent
fricking smaller than runescape
>Russian moron triptard also slurps Blizzard semen
WOW IMAGINE MY SHOCK COMING FROM THE LAND OF AIDS; RUSSIA
Blizzard died in 2007 or 8. What you've been seeing for the last decade is someone playing with a corpse ala weekend at bernies.
Frick, Black person-fatique is actually a thing..
>I'm getting upset....everyone agrees with me because I'm a normal gay
I enjoyed Diablo Immortal, good run, had fun, not a penny spent... the important thing is to avoid playing as a vice, and this can happen with every Diablo. Wasting time for 0,00001% of drop chanche can be bad for yourself even before money are involved, becaise time is more precious than money. Also, a good method to resist against the vices is understand that you arr going to feel a great sense of void. I remember in previous games when i completed my set, every mob was trashed onlu watching them, everything felt pointless. If you experience all the content becoming strong by equipment just for the sake of become strong is basically watching the same content again and again, but like playing very easy after time wasted.
>wow is the best in the MMO marke-
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Just curious, what is the mechanic here? Boss does a knockback, players get stunned(?), then there's a spread aoe so players need to get knocked back in different directions? And there's crates on both sides of the lane so like two players to each crate and one down the middle? Probably someone with mobility to catch back up to the boss?
Mythic dungeons get different modifier each week, one of them is Quaking, i.E. everyone gets a small circle AOE around them that damages and interrupts their casts if you cast when it goes off. Usually you are supposed to spread and stop casting when it is about to go off (honestly, like 60% of Mythic affixes its a thing that fricks the healer). This dungeon has a mechanic that boots the party backwards and has you run a little gauntlet. Quaking went off when they were pushed back.
Since they recycle old content, I assume Quaking wasn't a thing back when that dungeon released, but no one at Blizzard cares to do something about that.
>Every mechanic gets read out to you
No wonder wowbabs are all braindead, jesus christ. How the frick would WoW players ever manage something like Hello World on O12S
go broke
>"WOW IS DEAD" says increasingly nervous man for the 6000th time
It's been dead for a while though. Blizzard just got so much frick you money in the past that they can afford to keep it zombified
>Your game doesn't have 5 million active players at peak hours?! DEAD GAME!!!!
unironically what wowgays have been screeching at every other mmo for the past 15 years, only difference is now it's their game that can't stop losing players
whats ironic is the gay is mocking for people who are majority in all likelihood former wow players about how wow isnt dying despite being down to 34k concurrent players and at best 1 million subs, which is less than 10% less than wotlk, but probably less than 1 mill.
Dragonflight will sell 5 million copies at the absolute minimum.
>DF will somehow outsell Shadowlands
Lol. Lmao.
Why are you under the impression that Shadowlands sold less than 5 million copies?
"Lol. Lmao" right back at you.
How much do you think shadowlands sold anon they sold 3.7 million on launch and have been losing people since, it's nowhere near 5 million and that's not going into week 1 refunds
>How much do you think shadowlands sold anon
I don't know. All we know is that Dragonflight sold 3.7 million copies in the first 24 hours, making it the fastest-selling WoW expansion ever. To think that they couldn't sell an additional 1.3 million copies in the next 2 years is incredibly unlikely.
It's actually incredibly likely. Almost every poor performing product gets advertised on fast sales and then never updated. Their customer base has tanked since the expansion released so who would they have sold an extra 1.3 million copies to?
>everyone but the most absolute brain damaged addicts has abandoned WoW this time
It's unironically over
I don't play wow anymore but irnoring the stigma I enjoyed those few months of playing a vulpera rogue in my assassin transmog. wish the game had shaders. Wish the game was good.
>he's unironically defending WoW
>for free
>in 2022
Holy hell
>Ummm sweaty why aren't you making up things with me?
>There's actually more people playing FFXIV than WoW now, since their steam numbers don't take into account the launcher numbers and PS4/PS5.
Holy frick, the MMO genre is dead for real this time. WoW has finally been slayed by itself.
Even I coulda told you that. A lot of ff14 raids you can dungeon find for rn take all of 5 minutes to fill up with 24 people. And thats as dps. For a healer its sometimes instant. That's not even accounting for dungeons. And the 6.2 patch for the new raid isnt even out yet.
Even side content like BLU fills up extremely quickly
>is blizzard dying the saddest vidya story
There isn't anything sad about it. All the devs that actually made good shit are long gone, no one to feel sorry or bad about. Good developers getting shitcanned and having their work ruined, like Troika, that's sad.
>try playing wow again
>felt like a giant endless treadmill for cosmetics
>every new update came with nerfs to fun
>pvp was decent but 90% of pvpers were horde so it was hard to enjoy due to the imbalance
Wow is a piece of shit outdated game
Blizzard is literally buying their own microtransactions to make it look like people actually play their dead fricking game.
How would that make any sense? Investors would catch on.
You sure? Investors fall for the "MAU" scam every quarter.
If you are investing in blizzard chances are you are clueless
Anon.... investors are rarely as smart as you're trying to give them credit for. Go give something like https://www.youtube.com/c/ColdFusion a look if you want to laugh at how moronic investors can be.
Investors don't care when movie companies buy their own tickets to a mediocre flop to drum up interest or when literally every book publisher buys their own stock to get on the NYT Best Seller List. Why would they care about this?
they just released inmortal to the bug morons in china homie, they are making bank right now.
rofl
you again you dumb moron?
question, how fricked up in the head are you?
The Game has is own Launcher, and is playable with a Console.
The Steam Numbers mean nothing.
ff14 has less players than a wow private server lmao
You have to be trolling, I refuse to believe someone can be this deluded.
>claims that wow only has 34k players
>calls me deluded
piss off pedo
>FF14S steam version alone has as much concurrent users as all of wow.
fricking oof.
Fact is that most game companies will inevitably succumb to attrition/entropy. No matter how popular or brilliant, a game developer has a fixed life expectancy before everything they churn out is nothing more than polished shit.
Blizzard is no exception, it happened to Bungie, Piranha Bytes, Obsidian, Bioware and Bethesda (Bethesda was never good tho lmao). If there's a game company you like it will die a pitiful death.
Despair.
>he's still posting the steam bait
Sad.
unironically wow dying is the best thing that could happen to blizzard. they should have axed it loooong time a go and move to new projects (like new diablo, new starcraft...) but instead they kept milking the cow while hiring hundreds of prostitutes and lgbt freaks who further ruined the company.
>New Starcraft
Anon... It's dead and buried, I sincerely doubt anyone at Blizzard even knows how to code in galaxy script so they'd have to start from scratch on any sequel.
Diablo 4 is gonna be shit and Starcraft is a dead franchise now.
>Diablo 4 is gonna be shit
based on what they've shown so far I'm cautiously optimistic.
There's just no saving you people. You are what keeps the undead corpse of Blizzard shuffling about.
Anon in pre alpha says it's not much different than Diablo 3.
Of course, again who have they got left in terms of actual developers? All they can do is make derivatives like new hearthstone cards, Overwatch 1.2, Diablo-a-little-more-than-3. Even Diablo Immortal was a reskin of a chink game (not even kidding)
If they can make D3.5 but with good and more varied endgame then I'll be happy.
How sad gaming and gamers have become. One of the biggest, well known developers on the planet and people go
>yeah just like, make the previous game but don't copy it entirely and maybe improve some things and I'll gladly throw $60 plus tip at you
This really is the worst fricking timeline.
D3 turned out to be a pretty good game after a while with all the changes they made + RoS. The only real big problem was that the endgame only consisted of GR running and nothing else.
It's just a realistic outlook on things to have low expectations instead of wishing for them to make something crazy and revolutionary, because we all know that will never happen.
if WoW servers shut down tomorrow, Blizzard would be looking to whale the shit out of another IP.
Call me an arrogant narcasist but I genuinely believe if blizz gave me total control of wow i could have it go back to the glory days of being loved by all. A lot of these guys who are designing things are just clueless about game design, i figured that out when i played back in WoD, what a shit show.
narcissist**
frick
Yea you have no fricking chance if you were still sticking around for WoD. At best the people who left at Cata can be acceptable because they just stuck with WoW through the dark ages of WotLK before giving up, but if you actually played through Cata and stuck around all the way up to WoD then you have no chance at success.
This
They can afford the talent, but their ideas are just ridiculous or downright evil.
Money doesn't make people magically appear, and no (sustainable) amount of money will make competent developers stick around at a shit company churning out soulless drivel or even just the same standard slop like WoW.
The issue is that you want talented developers, but the more you pay them the more likely they are to save up some money and leave to work on their own projects. Don't pay them enough and someone else will. Unless you give people the room to work on their own passions they won't ever stick around, and Blizzard was doomed the moment they merged with Activision simply due to their corporate culture.
TL;DR: No amount of money will fix Blizzard long-term.
Unless you did a complete reboot of it, I don't see how you could bring back the good old days. Where exactly do you start fixing the mess that is current WoW? Do you delete vulperas from the game? Do you just pretend that all the old content doesn't exist and don't bother trying to fix it? Do you completely revamp the talent/stat system that's been built up over the last decade?
I guess my point is that a lot of cobwebs have built up over the years and it'll take a lot of time and effort to sweep them out. Hell, you couldn't sweep out certain things without the current players throwing a shitfit.
The lore is completely dead unless you go back to pre-WotLK so that'd be a start.
>Inb4 lorelets b***hing about TBC because they really liked Illidan and Kaelthas and missed the most obvious foreshadowing imaginable
>The lore is completely dead unless you go back to pre-WotLK so that'd be a start.
Personally, I think Classic Plus would be the best way to do a reboot of the universe. Retail can stay in its containment zone with its lore rape while people can enjoy a whole new WoW experience.
>Do you completely revamp the talent
They are actually doing that for Dragonflight. I personally think it's useless because 99% of people will just copy builds, but a lot of people seem to think that the rework is good and important.
It's unsalvageable for me. Shadowlands took a massive shit on literally all the lore and every belief system in the game.
Don't worry, in the future they will just say that Shadowlands was a dream and isn't actually real.
How has that ended anyway? Are you just supposed to go back to Azeroth and forget about everything that happened? Is Sylvanas going back to the Horde? (how ridiculous would that be?!)
No she's staying there in the Maw to help. She's redeemed now since nothing she did was ever of her own volition and her "good half" was buried inside her.
It's fricking stupid.
So who are they making the Warchief now? Who is the least qualified and sensible this time around?
No one, the horde is run by council now.
Oh shit the Twilight Council took over the Horde? Are they finally going to stop pretending the Horde isn't the evil faction even though that was obvious to anyone with half a brain since vanilla? No, no you probably mean they just gave up on one of the main concepts of the "Horde" in it having a Warchief and their previously shoddy leadership is now going to be even more chaotic.
Councils, and they probably want to keep banging the drum that it's WARcraft and somehow councils leading a war is going to be a great idea...
No it's this group. Yes I'm too lazy to type out names. Also they retired the position of Warchief, the Horde is actually being turned pretty soft.
Imagine being Lor'themar, leader of Silvermoon, and having a similar position on the Horde council to something called Kiro, some fox thing that leads a caravan...
Seriously though how the frick are some of these characters going to make amends for all the shit Sylvanas pulled? They're just going to pretend it's all water under the bridge aren't they?
haha because it would be racist against a fox furry creation.
kek
I'm not trying to suck your dick here but I think you could.
Not because you are better at game design than any other Gankerirgin in these threads but I honestly think that Blizz could fire everyone on the team that doesn't have some sort of useful skill like programming knowledge or being a skilled artist and then just employ players at random that still plays or used to play WoW. The ideas of a random bunch of morons sounds more appealing than anything that Blizzard has churned out since WoD.
Just playing on private servers sort of proves my point since almost every single one of them that does custom content has made better content than current WoW devs has in the last 6 years, and the private server scene is filled to the brim with literal autists and random nobodies that have never even touched vidya design as a concept before
>mfw I was addicted to WoW back in vanilla and quit before the first expansion
Interesting to watch this whole thing from afar.
>hire women and woke blue haired freaks to score points
>they start making unfounded sexuall assault allegations against people who won't bend the knee to their agenda
>no allegation is taken to the police only to management
>accused are pushed out of the company without any chance to defend themselves fairly
>wokies take their jobs
>hire more people just like them and fill all major positions
>game development deteriorates and players hate the game
>company dies
>wokies get hired by new game dev company and the process repeats
Gaming is dying. And it's a good thing.
>hire women and woke blue haired freaks to score points
No, because they're cheap and have no other options so they are easy to exploit. Corporations are greedy and they are good at the game they play, their reasoning isn't so superficial.
>they start making unfounded sexuall assault allegations against people who won't bend the knee to their agenda
Nah, that hole goes much deeper and has frick all to do with "diversity hires" and everything to do with Microsoft buying them up (conveniently right after a major scandal made them look really bad eh?)
>accused are pushed out of the company without any chance to defend themselves fairly
Yea had nothing to do with the shares and influence they held, this is aallll about wokeism riiiight. Fricking sheep.
>wokies take their jobs
More like people who are easily exploited/fired/replaced while they can be further utilized for marketing to squeeze some extra profit out of a dying brand. Those "wokies" are easily manipulated, just like you for believing the tripe you've tried to peddle here.
>hire more people just like them and fill all major positions
See the above, this was about getting rid of influential people and shareholders while replacing them with cheap strawmen puppets to make it look like everything was fine to investors so the stock wouldn't tank as much.
>game development deteriorates and players hate the game
This step happened years ago before D3 was even finished. The frick have you been?
>company dies
You'd wish. There's more profit to be squeezed for a good while still.
>wokies get hired by new game dev company and the process repeats
You're really fricking moronic if you think "wokies" are the issue and not the diversion. How fricking simple can you be? How shallow?
>You're really fricking moronic if you think "wokies" are the issue and not the diversion
anon greed and complacency at top level is the bottom-line here.
Greed yes. Complacency not a chance in hell. Only morons think "wokies" have any power at all, their only merit is that they are easy to manipulate and weaponize so they get catered to.
There isn't a single "wokie" in any position of actual power. They are tools, and you'd have to be a blind fool to think they are pulling any strings.
I'm not that anon you were replying initially and I said "at top level" meaning those who pull the strings.
>NOOOO! ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LEFT! THE LEFT ARENT RUINING GAMINNNNGGG!!!!
>the left
What a thoroughly and blatantly uneducated take. Shameful. Look to the puppetmaster, not the puppets, regardless of how distracting those puppets are made to be. Only an idiot would think life is so simple that such matters are so blatant, go be distracted by pretty lights and loud gender politics, you're being played for a fool, and it works because you are one.
Gaming companies aren't simply failing, they're being broken. Not by some demented politics nonsense, but by bigger fish trying to expand their reach and narrow down competition, "wokeism" is an effective tool because it distracts imbeciles such as yourself and makes actual woke morons believe things are going to get better. You are paralyzed by a diversion, they are paralyzed by the promise of a better tomorrow, while large corporation assimilate and destroy all you've cared for.
You blind, feeble-minded sheep.
>ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICIIIICCCSSS!!!
>the left
You're so wrong you have no examples to even back up your statements. You're trying to sell me your moronic head canon fan fiction and I'm not buying your turds you stupid c**t.
>Look I have pictures they are perfect examples
What is this, kindergarten? My god the level of discourse on display. Yeah, sure lad, you've got it all figured out with your correlation equals corroboration theorem, fricking brilliant! So smart!
Bah. I'll waste no more effort on this.
>source your argument or provide examples
>UH I DONT HAVE ANYYYY!!!!!
>Wokies are the tool, not the hand that wields the tool
I get the distinction, but to the outsider observer it's effectively the same thing as being the ones in charge, as long as they're wielding you.
So raging against the tool they use is effectively raging against them. You're still denying the change that they are forcing on you.
The change has already happened. Wokeism only exists to placate the woke while the other side rages against wokeism, but they don't care, they don't have to, they have no more competition. If conservatives had the multimedia budget that the "woke" people do then and only then would they get catered to, but conservatism is regression and those groups tend to be poor as shit.
And all you're doing is helping them advertise their drivel to the woke morons. All you're doing is VALIDATING their moronic message by giving them someone to point to and shouting "Look! See! Bigots! We're right in our cause! Ignore our low quality work it's all for the cause, and our cause is just because just look! Those people are being so vile!
They thrive on the conflict, they play the game while you're merely screaming about the color of the pawns. As powerless as you are all you can do is convince yourself that your petty screeching has merit, has purpose, and you perpetuate the infantile conflict they so thrive on.
People calling it shit is people noticing it. You want people to stop calling out the shit, so that there isn't an enemy for them to point at, but the shit is what's creating the enemy and if they keep creating shit, and people keep pointing out how shitty it is, then eventually the enemy will be larger than the people supporting the shit, and the money will be in producing things that aren't shit.
Your solution is to, what, cede all ground and stop engaging with the world? Then they can just keep on making shit until the world ends.
>You want people to stop calling out the shit
What a moronic interpretation. No. Calling shit out DOESN'T DO ANYTHING. DO SOMETHING. All you achieve is giving your corporate overlords a target to pitch woke morons against so you're both too busy fighting over the scraps on the table to notice that the turkey was taken away, and you're so happy with you glorious cause that you don't even care to notice. Nobody would need to fight over mediocre scraps if we just stopped the puppeteers from absconding with the main course, but with the point of a finger you partake of the distraction like rabid dogs. Woke shit has existed since the dawn of vidya, nobody gave a shit until it was weaponized as a distraction, where now the people with talent and passion have to bow to major corporations and exploited.
Who the frick gives a shit about wokeism when every vidya on every spectrum is reduced to cheap slop regardless of affiliation? Why the frick are you so easily distracted?
Why do you think that passive b***hing is all that's happening?
People are making their own shit. One man can complain about one thing while simultaneously making something else.
You want me to show you my own creation in this thread about how WoW has gone to shit?
I'm not making an MMO, let alone something related to or rivalling WoW, so it isn't fricking thread relevant.
>One man can complain about one thing while simultaneously making something else.
If your work is not worth my time, then neither is your complaining. Meanwhile, stop worrying about petty drivel like right vs left or conservatism vs liberalism and mind the fact that your democratic institutions have fallen to undemocratic corporate "nobility" shearing more and more power off for themselves.
You came into a discussion about how bad WoW is and complained that people weren't randomly spouting off about their own projects instead of talking about how bad WoW has gotten.
If you want to see people's projects, start a thread about that.
No, you obnoxious, homosexual pseud. The people at the top don't just happen to hire woke leftoids because they're easy to manipulate. The woke leftoids exist in the first place because the people at the top push that ideology in every aspect of life, in every form of media, in the education system. The people at the top were leftist terrorists, or supported leftist terrorists, decades ago and spent the decades since then infiltrating institutions to push their sick ideas as the only acceptable truth. For those at the top who do think only of money and control, they still push wokeism because the end goal of wokeism is an atomized, self-centered, rootless, androgynous mass of people who only feel content when they consoom. It is all about wokeism, all of it. Now frick off and go watch Manufacturing Consent.
Yeah bro. Nothing to do with women and wokies ruining gaming lol! It's just a coincidence!
>Being so illiterate you miss the point this badly
Wokies are the tool, not the hand that wields the tool. You are as blind as you are foolish, as evidenced by you rabidly pointing at the tool as through it's existence was ever in question.
Hopeless sap.
>NOOO THEYRE JUST BEING PUPPETED BY SOMEONE ELSE BRROOOOOO!!!!
You're a stupid moron who knows nothing about the world and the people in it.
Hirings are almost entirely nepotistic in gaming. It's about who you know. Wokies took over these companies because they used to be game journo's and had a close relationship with game devs. Selling reviews and so forth.
Then when writers positions would open up they would flood in. Then they'd hire others. Take over important parts of the company and change the idealogy of the building.
It's all about changing culture. Because as Sarkesian says clearly in an earlier post, they believe that by making games pro feminist they will make players pro feminist.
The fact you don't understand that shows what a fricking schizo tourist you are. Now frick off you dumb fricking c**t.
>ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH SJWS BRO! ITS BECAUSE OF MONEYYYYY!!!
You literally don't know what you're talking about you stupid frick. What do you understand about hiring practices in gaming? You haven't left your room in 3 months you ugly pimply faced homosexual.
>It's because of money!!!
You're a stupid fricking new gay. These people have run plenty of game devs into the ground because of woke politics. They just get hired again by other companies because other wokies have already taken over the hiring sections there.
If you're a wokie you'll always have a job in CA. Crash and burn a company into the ground and another company will snatch you up for your dogshit writing.
The fact you don't know this outs you as a new gay tourist.
According to their numbers they made $1.3B in "subscription" fees for Q2.
What are these people subscribing to because it sure as hell isn't WoW
I think they count the time buying with gold
but someone has to buy a wow token in order to put it on the market for gold right? So sure, 9 people buy time with gold, but then the 10th player buys 9 tokens to sell
Yeah, but that is still money in blizzards pocket and the player still gets game time out of it and yes, there are enough morons who spends money on WoW gold to make this not only a viable option for people, but also it's a bigger earner for blizzards since they get an extra 5 bucks out of the deal every time someone does it
The WoW token was probably the last good business decision and it was so smart the whole company has survived off it since at the cost of completely legalising gold selling/buying and ruining the game
mazed wowdrones actually think they got the real classic experience when instead everything ran off GDKP
the people still playing are already too cucked to really care about P2W though. WOW isnt a game they play, its a habit.
You mean the WoW token? Doesn't that basicaly just mean someone else bought it for you?
Where are you getting that from? Their report said this from what I can tell:
Revenue: $1.64 billion (down 28% year-on-year)
Bookings: $1.64 billion (down 15%)
Net income: $280 million (down 68%)
Monthly active users: 361 million (down 12% year-over-year and 3% quarter-over-quarter)
The revenue was broken down into subscriptions and not subscriptions on the excerpt I saw
Oh there's one that has the full breakdown of things? I am interested in seeing that one, can you post it?
I found it, I guess I completely missed the other revenue part when I first saw this
Sneaky blizz fully obfuscating the actual sub numbers
>In-game, subscription, and other revenues
Jesus christ, the israelite tricks. They hide the sub between everything else so it's impossible for anyone to find out the real numbers. Surely that's one of Kotick's tricks.
>Flipping the numbers around to make it harder to read at a glance
That is actually kind of pathetic and if I was an investor in the company I would tell them to stop doing this shit or I would pull my money out immediately. It just reeks of disrespect for the people who are propping them up in the first place
Blizzard needs to scale down and focus on WoW, they're not making good games anymore. That said, they do have multiple main games in development, Overwatch 2, Diablo 4 and the WoW expan all at the same time, so it makes sense that there would be a pretty strong decline until they release.
They also have an entirely new survival game in a new IP coming up that has been in development forr nearly 5 years. Perhaps the reason why their other games have felt so abandoned and shit is because of this new game.
>Still more players than any FFXIV
>Dead
>Source: My ass
What did the trannies at Ganker meme by this?
more players than any FFXIV
maybe he should inform himself.
ff14 has more active players.
the 1,4-1,8 Million and not counting china or korea.
FF14 most likely has 2Mil +
>they expect big profits in Q3 because they're making OW2 f2p and trying to sell people $45 mythic skins
Frick them. Kotick can go frick himself, and so can Keller for being such a god damn bootlicker who exists only to suck the farts out of Kotick's ass.
The competitors are literal non-factors that simply vacuum up lost and alone ex-blizzard fans desperately searching for a new home
If blizzard still made games at their early 2000's quality there wouldn't even be competitors
The point being that I hate the tool they're currently using against me. If we rage against the tool enough, maybe they'll decide to pick up a different tool. And if that tool sucks too, I'll rage against it as well. The goal is to force those who rule over you to become benevolent out of fear of losing their positions.
The fricking hubris of thinking you would have such power. Utterly baffling. You're doing little more than playing with sand telling yourself that if you make a large enough pile daddy will have to notice you and do what you want.
What a joke. Slacktivism is real and here is the face of it. "Just uuhhhh loudly announce my displeasure and hope if I'm obnoxious enough it works hehehe".
Frick off. Make something or feed the slop you're fed, spare me your infantile self aggrandizing drivel.
Take a break you insufferable pseud.
>thinking you have such power
Where did this come from? I'm not saying I'm some superman who's going to save things, I'm literally talking about individual people exercising what meager power they do have in the hope that it might help more than doing nothing at all.
You're just a blackpilled homosexual. You have no insights, you just want everyone to give up like you already have.
>Give up.
On the contrary. I want people to actually do something, anything. Not just this passive b***hing and self-congratulatory garbage of "see, I told you the wokies were coming, let's all talk about how upset we are about that!" fricking dogshit attitude that has plagued this site for years.
I don't give a shit if you have no confidence, I don't give a shit if you don't think it's good enough. Fricking make something.
It's already been long dead in practice. There's nothing there left to be sad about if it were to disappear.
The only ones to blame are the morons of Blizzard, they've literally paid microsoft to install shadow updates to force the physical copies of old games to stop working, instead directing you to install their battle.shit rootkit
>blizzard dying the saddest vidya story since sega consoles
sad? you should be happy. they deserve it
i absolutely love that microshit has been buying the absolutely fricking dregs of the video game industry, as they all reach their lowest points at the same time.
Good. That way they will be easier for MS to acquire.
There's 34k ppl on one of the TBCC mega servers alone...
Yeah, the 34K number is clearly some random ass pull, but Ganker loves to run with it anyway.
Cope you dirty fricking homosexuals! You're troony game is dying and you'll be joining in the grave soon! KEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEKKEK
>in the making
There is a wasp nest inside the walls of his house that he isn't getting rid of because he is lazy
There is a dead rat inside his kitchen that he isn't getting rid of because he is lazy
There were roaches inside his shower until recently because he couldn't get rid of them
He also only showers like 1-2 a month.
Has never eaten an apple or strawberry in his life.
And he plays a game that he hates to "calm down"
will microsoft always be there to buy the bubbles that would burst in the silicon sector?
In that case here the bubble has already deflated.
Actiblizz isn't worth anything outside of CoD and Candy Crush. Even MS said that Blizzard has no "must-play" IPs.
>Even MS said that Blizzard has no "must-play" IPs.
Surely you must be aware that they just said that so their purchase of Activision/Blizzard doesn't get blocked.
Yeah but thats where the 34k thing is coming from.
It's MS saying that WoW at its lowest has mere 34k playing the game at the same time.
No. It's some random dude who pulled that number out of his ass by looking at MAU and then did some bad napkin math to try to extract a concurrent number. If MS had officially said that the numbers were THAT low, it would be all over every gaming site and subreddit.
No it wasn't
The same random post that came up with the 34k number also said WoW currently has 5 million subs but everyone strangely ignores that
body type 2 sisters...... the cis hetero males are laughing at us again
Microsoft will save the day.
Why are you all being disingenuous this entire thread? Legitimacy of the article aside, you always use concurrent sub count not online players. And doesnt that same site say it stilll has millions of active subs?
>World of Trooncraft - Dragonshite
It's unironically over...
It's even worse.
Asmon says Dragonflight is fun
Blizzard was never good.
>34k
wait, how