Wtf? this game is fricking shit. You guys told me it was OG DMC. No quality wisecracking, the goofiness has no soul..its sus. The female characters are insufferable which was something DMC never had a problem with before. The graphics are drab as frick. Goddamn dude dont even get me started on having to play as anyone that isnt dante. Also Vergil looks like he has fetal alcohol syndrome in this game. The combat cant save it sorry dudes, I actually prefer DMC2 to this game.
Is this the enroachment of the west on good eastern IP or is this just the standards of our time have fallen so low. Id rather exhume my grandmothers corpse and eat the maggots i pick out of her decayed 130 year old butthole than play this absolutely rancid televised rape of Dante and his bros. Time to replay 1 I guess
your mom looked like she had fetal alcohol syndrome when i fricked her dirty butthole and your dad jacked off in the corner
Was that before or after YOUR mom was stroking my Super Smokin' Stylish wiener and I SIN devil triggered all over her face and filled her dark hole with light? Unfortunately our souls are at odds brother..
Yeah it was the gays here and all the vid essays on youtube saying its the GOAT! wtf man, I'm so jaded. Its a shame they serve Mundus, from now on ill walk my own path
>filled her dark hole with light?
>Its a shame they serve Mundus
I fricking kek'd so hard, thanks.
>from now on ill walk my own path
Thats always the way to go anon. Eat the meat spit the bones, never swallow everything whole. Listen to these homosexuals as much as you like but you are the one that gives the last word at the end.
>all the vid essays on youtube
have a nice day
>Was that before or after YOUR mom was stroking my Super Smokin' Stylish wiener and I SIN devil triggered all over her face and filled her dark hole with light? Unfortunately our souls are at odds brother..
Obscenely based retort, sir.
filtered
>Trusting the opinion of a bunch of Ganker homosexuals
also filtered
I appreciate the performance but you really have some work to do.
>even the high level dmc combo artists hate DMCV and its fans
Why did you screencap your own twitter post?
they should make a game that shoots self-professed "high level" players in the head with a gun in real life if your combo meter goes too high
>high level gameplay
>loses to Vergil 2 on camera with coop
lol
lmao
he has a point, dmc is loved for its crazy combos but what % of the playerbase actually sits in the void and practices combos? what do these "fans" actually like about the game if they don't bother with that side of it?
They like the idea of being one of those people so they pretend
What the frick are you on about? DMC combogayging is a very small % of autists and that was literally never the focus of the series. It only became a thing in 4 because that game had literally nothing else but glitches and comboing sandbags going for it.
yes, im asking what dmc5 fans actually like about the game considering it has very little going for it as a casual action game
as a casual player of the dmc franchise, i like that that combat is intuitive enough that i can do mildly cool stuff with minor effort. basically every aspect of the game screams 'cool' to my sensibilities, from character design, to weapon design, to dialogue some of the time. it's just an enjoyable experience.
i sometimes find myself thinking "i would like to be a god at dmc5' and i start to frick around in the void but i lack direction or purpose. in fighting games i'm the type of person to grind ranked matches instead of labbing anything, just have no patience for sitting in training mode. the equivalent in dmc5 is bloody palacing until i plateau. i'll do that for a bit with nero and dante then close the game, repeating the process some months later.
You can like playing DMC without being a combogay obsessed with technical "achievement." That whole combo scene was born because DMC4 Dante was so terrible people adopted glitches in order to make him play better.
Casual players can enjoy DMC5 out the gate. It's perhaps the easiest action game to get into and enjoy at a casual level. Just watch a stream or LP of someone playing DMC5 for the first time, it's guaranteed that they'll have a blast.
the game could be better about steering players towards advanced play though. that sandbox element has appeal, but casual players just don't really know what they should be going for. dmc6 would benefit from showing the player what's possible directly rather than them going online and watching some combo video i feel.
The freedom of the combat and experimenting for yourself is part of the appeal. Like, even to this day I'm discovering new things about it and I've played over 1000 hours of DMC5.
As a player I personally dislike getting everything spoonfed to me.
Shitsuno doesnt care about high level play, he wanted to make a successfull action game, not a good one. In fact hes actually HEAVILY against advanced play, which is why unmodded Nero & Dante are garbage that arent worth investing time into on vanilla version of the game.
On the contrary, focusing solely on a technically complex game doesn't make for a good one.
It does for the people who actually play these games instead of completing them once without even learning what enemy step is. And it's not like DMC 5 had put a lot of focus on other aspects. In the end it only satisfied the lowest common denominator and the brand fans who will like anything as long as its a part of the series.
>It does for the people who actually play these games instead of completing them once without even learning what enemy step is.
Let's be generous and say that's about 3000 people. DMC5 sold 6 million copies. That's 0.0005% of the playerbase.
We're not talking about the lowest common denominator here, combogays are basically non-existent.
Thats precisely the point. There's no inbetween outside of combogays and regular players, at most the latter will get all achievements in the game (most likely by using guides and cheesing), but even these people are in the minority. Elden Ring has a higher % for obtaining all achievements than DMC 5 has for beating SoS. On the contrary DMC3 still has speedruns and challenge runs to this day. So what did DMC5 focus on outside of technical complexity?
>There's no inbetween outside of combogays and regular players
That's just wrong.
>On the contrary DMC3 still has speedruns and challenge runs to this day
So does DMC5.
>So what did DMC5 focus on outside of technical complexity?
DMC5 has more technical complexity than DMC3 and DMC4.
>wrong
How come?
>So does DMC5.
Barely.
>DMC5 has more technical complexity than DMC3 and DMC4.
People have found all the tech and glitches in the first few months. They also had to mod it nearly from the get go because it was borderline unplayable otherwise lol. And even then the playerbase is proportionally lower.
>How come?
There's a bunch of people between those interested and those that play casually.
>People have found all the tech and glitches in the first few months.
Also wrong.
>They also had to mod it nearly from the get go because it was borderline unplayable otherwise lol.
Not at all. DMC5 plays excellently. Most people don't really mod it, and the mods are mostly very technical stuff. Compare to DMC3 requiring mods for style switching.
Not really a bunch when less than 7% have beaten sos.
>Also wrong.
Nothing significant or gamechanging in the context of comboautism.
>Not at all. DMC5 plays excellently.
It's beyond sluggish without turbo & slow-mo removal and you cant even switch targets while moving without a fix. There's lots of menuing and lack of basic qol.
Most people dont really play the game more than once. Doesnt change the fact that the cheat table is the third most popular mod for 5 (with the first one being the mod loader). Dont act like people didnt combo in 3 before style switcher was created - all it did was expanding the game's lifespan even further.
It's less about increasing the complexity and more about removing limitations that werent in 3 and 4.
which limitations does dmc5 have other than the ones you mentioned?
>It's beyond sluggish without turbo & slow-mo removal and you cant even switch targets while moving without a fix.
It plays exactly like DMC4.
>There's lots of menuing and lack of basic qol.
Again, not more menuing than in the other games. The only one that requires going through the shop is Nero, and that's once or twice a mission. You only get one load time at the start of the mission and then it's all one continuous section, as opposed to the rooms with dozens of doors of the other games.
>Dont act like people didnt combo in 3 before style switcher was created
Don't read things that aren't there. I said the changes in mods are much more massive in 3 than they are on 5. 3's mods add entire mechanics 5 has full fledgedly. 5's add some perks.
The rate at which people discover mechanics and glitches is irrelevant and people modded 4's mechanics into 5 because they couldn't cope with the fact their wasted muscle memory doesn't translate into 5. It's why they used Rebellion in their combos rather than swapping it with DSD.
being an casually enticing enough game for 6 million people to buy and revive the series as far as internal higher ups are concerned?
That's what I said
what exactly do mods add that increase the complexity of nero and dante so much in your view? ive seen that dmc strive thing and it's not that significant a set of changes. you have to acknowledge that if the goal was always "good casual experience that sells millions", there is still a lot of meat to the bones of the combat. a lot of complexity. endless combo routes. they still made a technical game.
Don't bother, that guy's just a troll.
it's a worthy conversation because i agree with the notion that dmc5 was devved with an eye on satisfying both casual and diehard camps and it dies this well and yet something feels missing. like there was an additional element it skipped that i cannot quite put the finger on.
>So what did DMC5 focus on outside of technical complexity?
Selling copies you dumb homosexual, which it did well. The only reason capcom revived the series was because it sells, in fact DMC is only a thing because it sells merch, complimentary books and other stuff. Combohomosexuals are like a 0.01% of the franchise and they are not the ones keeping it alive whatsoever despite what they migh try to tell you on twitter.
>and that was literally never the focus of the series
Frick off newbie. DMC3SE literally had fan made combo videos included in its gallery. For DMC4 they hard analysed DMC3 combo exhibitions to see what they could make better. Itsuno himself shouted out Brea in the leadup to DMC5 and Junya Kumabe is still sharing fanmade combo videos to this day.
Itsuno also had two combogays make a fool out of themselves live and jobbing to vergil 3.
And yet it was still two combogays that were invited to play
Kek you say that like they don't invite a ton of people to these events, you think those two Black folk were the only ones?
No but this idea that the dev team doesn't care for combogays at all is just straight up not true. It wasn't some loregay ecelebs that were invited to showcase the game. It wasn't some ""real"" player who has never entered the training room. It was the combogays, obnoxious as they are.
Shoo. Back to twatter and DMC4 with you already.
I accept your concession. DMC is a combogay series and always has been.
>DMC is a combogay series and always has been
Nobody hates high level gameplay, we hate you.
I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING
DMC 6 WHEN?! Its been nearly four years Capcom, give us something.
Dragon's Dogma 2 though.
moron
Flock off feather face, or you can stick around and find out the hard way? At least I didn't waste five hours of my life going through the same 8 hallways
crap like that doesnt normally interest me, but your swang song will! It will NEVER be DMC; it has no soul...it may have the face but but it will never have the FIRE!
Once again eastern developers fricked up
Your dad fricked up harder having you
Honestly I agree, the more I go back to this game the less positively I think of it.
V is a blight on this game and there's no way to play his levels as other characters. Theres just no way a player can feel responsible for when V gameplay goes well (or poorly) because so much of it relies on how the AI controls your summons (e.g. lining up a group of enemies for an overdrive is simple as Dante, doing this with Shadow's Skewer is out of your hands). He's a chore to play.
The scoring system is just bad as it encourages you to run past enemies or routinely spam low damage moves/royal guard to build style before actually fighting the enemies (in a series that's lauded for its player expression).
The photorealistic artstyle is just ugly and doesn't mesh well with this kind of game because it makes it unreadable. The enemies and even the player characters often blend in with the environments. Even stuff like shadows underneath the enemies which could help you with positioning are gone because its not realistic, it fricking sucks.
The camera is awful because it's freely controlled while basically having no behaviour. It's honestly worse than the old fixed camera which at least framed the levels in a visually pleasing way. It also enables you to cheese certain fights, taking a lot of the edge from the game (not that there was much remaining with how easy it is to stay in the air and how OP the character's loadouts become).
The story is nothing, the character interactions are minimal, there are almost no good cutscenes or action sequences, the characters do Marvel dialogue and talk to themselves mid mission like they're playing Horizon, even the menus are clunky and time consuming. The boss fights are all awful too, they're in these huge arenas and they constantly teleport to either end of it which makes them a chore to fight.
filtered-ass homies
Trying too hard
Juggling single enemies are gay tbh, return to DMC3 mission 2
I've never played a DMC before 5. I'm 5 hours in and can't believe how shit it is. 30 second cinematic, fight (button mashing with motorbikes), 10 second ending cinematic, run, 30 second cinematic, repeat. The only redeeming feature is Vergil
Just get HD trilogy my man; you wont regret it. Dante deserves to be remembered at his best.
Very well said and agreed on all points. It feels like a Square Enix or Ninja theory game. Completely bled out and deaf to the praise that was given to the originals. Its just a tech demo for an admittedly developed combat system with nothing around it.
DMC 1-3 are like your epic 80's hack and slash, hand drawn fist of the north star style anime and 5 feels more like Digimon or Sailor moon.
Even for me dmc 5 is the game I dislike the most in its series.
it's like the kh3 of the kh series.
it has graphical and combat improvement but everything else feels gimmicky and the characters have lost their edge.
0/10 trying too hard
the only thing I remember from this game is that I had to fight the same boss like 10 times
Yall dumb as hell, shit's good, stay mad.
>its sus
you talk like a gay and your shit's all moronic
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I'm playing DMC1 for the first time and mirror Dante-thing is killing me when I try to jump up the ledges after him
wat do
You all talk like gays, and your shit's all moronic.