3's a game that wants to nostalgia bait you, makes 60% of the plot the same as the first game but absolutely under no circumstances actually give you anything you'd want in terms of nostalgia baiting, it's like being shown a pizza, getting a different pizza but people will pretend it's fine because it looks like that pizza you wanted
>hated
Its not really hated, its just simply a let down compared to 1 and especially 2.
I dont think anyone actually hates it, because its still pretty good. But I reckon all the redditors shouting "coomer!" at anons who (rightfully) prefer the others, might have tipped some anons into that direction.
3 just has a lot of issues. >world theme limits adventure majorly as every "village" is just another military post, meaning you've basically seen everything right at the start of the game >world design is bog standard, compared to 2's creative environments and locations >instead of actually cleverly reusing areas of 1 and 2, they just throw some landmarks into the distance and call it a day >instead of having the usual duality between story and exploration/side quests, 3 is incredibly linear for 3/4s of the game and shoves most of its side content into the last 4th, making it a complete slog to play >story is extremely limited by world theme as well, and 1&2 did the "we gotta change the world!" theme much better >characters are just not that interesting >combat revolves almost entirely around chain attacks
Still a good game nonetheless. But a big let down after 2 set expectations so high.
2 was a return to form after 1 deviated away from a lot of the themes and complexities of Gears/Saga, and expanded the scope of Xenoblade's overall premise by tenfold.
Blade 1's not a complex story though compared to the games that came before and after it, it's just an extremely well executed classic JRPG story. There's interviews with Takahashi and his wife from back in the day where they admitted that they felt defeated after Xenosaga's commercial failure and kind of pandered to the average JRPG fan's "ideal" JRPG story since Monolith Soft really needed a successful game as morale was extremely low. Takahashi goes as far to describe the first game as "a shonen story"
Xeno didn't start to become "complex" again until after Xenoblade 1's surprise acclaim reinvigorated Monolith.
Even Suikoden's more complex than Xenoblade 1 and that's a series that doesn't really delve into religion or philosophy at all.
>Xenoblade 2 is still the most controversial/hated xeno on Gankereddit
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep dogfucking furgays, obese women that play victim, and trannies. Total Gankeredditor death.
Don't fall for amerilard propaganda:
-Yuzuriha on the left is a woman addressed with female pronouns in the Japanese version and it's never ever been ambiguous that she has a vagene, her being a chud is entirely translator headcanon.
-As for A, it's more complicated, she's an avatar of a CPU that's gone berserk and got kicked out of it, she's not really a person so things like sexuality don't apply to her, so she's not a "they/them" but an "It" with a waifu body
>addressed with female pronouns in the Japanese version
She is? I feel like if any character referred to her by 彼女 in Japanese there never would have been a debate. That would have shut up most of the "allies".
Well, at the very least, it seems 3 doesn't have much of a chance to beat 2's in terms of sales.
Will this have an impact in the future of the series?
Will they conclude that people want more gacha?
I mean, gacha games are extremely successful, aren't they?
I doubt that's the conclusion they'll reach. But 3's story was both fairly depressing and reserved overall, with a bittersweet ending, at least until FR clarified that the worlds do merge properly later.
Hopefully they'll conclude that people enjoyed the more vibrant, cheerful and bombastic nature that 2 has at the beginning and overall, and add more levity to the next game. And some more tits and ass. Yeah, I said it. Bring back the skimpy outfits, fuck the naysayers.
You misunderstand me, dear my gay anon. I don't play gacha, but unlike you i'm not stupid enough to deny that they are plenty successful.
And that simple fact, together with XC2 selling better than XC3, could lead them to conclude they need to bring in more gacha.
She basically is but the game avoids using gender pronouns. Rex says that Ontos was supposed to be the inbetween of Logos (Male) and Pnuema (Female). Alpha is the Male aspect of Ontos since A herself uses male pronouns for him which means that A is female because she is the other half.
People who say she is non binary didn’t understand what the game told them. We are better of this way since if they actually understood what happened she would be the poster child for Trannies
She is. People get mixed up over the whole "Ontos is inbetween Logos and Pneuma", not understanding that it has a male half and a female half.
She basically is but the game avoids using gender pronouns. Rex says that Ontos was supposed to be the inbetween of Logos (Male) and Pnuema (Female). Alpha is the Male aspect of Ontos since A herself uses male pronouns for him which means that A is female because she is the other half.
People who say she is non binary didn’t understand what the game told them. We are better of this way since if they actually understood what happened she would be the poster child for Trannies
Mind you, trannies also claim characters like fucking Bridget, so they're all idiots anyway.
Also >The Romans/Greeks didn't think it was gay
Reminder that the Greeks considered "kinaidos" (basically a gay) to be beneath women and underserving of human rights and sexual pedastry was considered absolutely abhorent.
Not liking all the Xeno games is to not understand the Xeno games at all. You either like all of them or you genuinely don't understand what the games are even about.
Reminder that in The Monado Archives (released 2010), Alvis's gender is left ambiguous (there's question marks next to "male", none of the other characters have this) and his Japanese voice actor makes him a lot more feminine than his English voice actor, which was almost entirely lost in English.
It's not a matter of gutlessness, the LGBTIA roving gangs will look at any crumb of a character's gender or sexuality being slightly ambiguous and try to "claim" them.
It's why men can't be friends in media or their speculated to be gay for each other, or them trying to claim Link is gay because the player can dress him in female outfits, despite the fact that the game practically beats you over the head that he and Zelda have a serious romantic relationship.
>It's not a matter of gutlessness, the LGBTIA roving gangs will look at any crumb of a character's gender or sexuality being slightly ambiguous and try to "claim" them.
You are right, but if the one who made the page about A was one of them, he/she would have definitely written "NONBINARY" as A's gender.
Since it was left as unspecified, it was done by someone who isn't exactly part of that group but is too gutless to write the truth.
>It's why men can't be friends in media or their speculated to be gay for each other
I hate these people with a passion. Like, look at the retard in pic related.
To be fair, people on Ganker do the same shit with Nikol and Glimmer. The game doesn't push them as a couple at all, but people here ship them because "muh shota" and "muh protagonists' kids"
Not that anon, and I get what you mean, but I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones. Might just be due to my exposure to the former, though.
Not that anon, and I get what you mean, but I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones. Might just be due to my exposure to the former, though.
>I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones.
Men can't be friends in media using gay men to portray them. That's the difference. Acting is a purely homosexual endeavour given the necessity of sucking off old gnomish men.
It doesn't matter, all of these games suck compared to the actual true best Xenoblade game, X. This is undeniable absolute fact. Honestly, if X actually had a main story that existed it would be too powerful for this world, it had to limit itself so our feeble minds would not burst upon seeing such glory.
1&2 had decently conclusives stories, as a duology.
Then 3 start as a decent standalone story, but devs have to make a trilogy because reasons, and tries shoehorning references and callbacks of 1&2 without proper buildup, or outright forgetting key elements of Klaus' saga.
Hate is too strong of a word, because the game is still fun, but worldbuilding and story was a letdown.
I wonder if anyone else noticed that both 4chanschizos and chudcord-raider types act like this shit isn’t your standard “localisation” bullshit and somehow proves Monolith Soft is pozzed/whatever the chud equivalent of based is. Same thing with Taion, they both almost need him to be black (which he isn’t) to validate there attitudes to the game
It’s fucking madness
3's a game that wants to nostalgia bait you, makes 60% of the plot the same as the first game but absolutely under no circumstances actually give you anything you'd want in terms of nostalgia baiting, it's like being shown a pizza, getting a different pizza but people will pretend it's fine because it looks like that pizza you wanted
That s future redeemed. Xeno 3 is one of the best examples of how to tastefully manage references to old titles
>hated
Its not really hated, its just simply a let down compared to 1 and especially 2.
I dont think anyone actually hates it, because its still pretty good. But I reckon all the redditors shouting "coomer!" at anons who (rightfully) prefer the others, might have tipped some anons into that direction.
3 just has a lot of issues.
>world theme limits adventure majorly as every "village" is just another military post, meaning you've basically seen everything right at the start of the game
>world design is bog standard, compared to 2's creative environments and locations
>instead of actually cleverly reusing areas of 1 and 2, they just throw some landmarks into the distance and call it a day
>instead of having the usual duality between story and exploration/side quests, 3 is incredibly linear for 3/4s of the game and shoves most of its side content into the last 4th, making it a complete slog to play
>story is extremely limited by world theme as well, and 1&2 did the "we gotta change the world!" theme much better
>characters are just not that interesting
>combat revolves almost entirely around chain attacks
Still a good game nonetheless. But a big let down after 2 set expectations so high.
>after 2 set expectations so high
Yeah, for coomers. You should know who makes those kinds of post.
2 was a return to form after 1 deviated away from a lot of the themes and complexities of Gears/Saga, and expanded the scope of Xenoblade's overall premise by tenfold.
Just because Blade doesn't shit out bible references left and right, like Gears and Saga do, doesn't mean it's not a complex story what the fuck lmao
Blade 1's not a complex story though compared to the games that came before and after it, it's just an extremely well executed classic JRPG story. There's interviews with Takahashi and his wife from back in the day where they admitted that they felt defeated after Xenosaga's commercial failure and kind of pandered to the average JRPG fan's "ideal" JRPG story since Monolith Soft really needed a successful game as morale was extremely low. Takahashi goes as far to describe the first game as "a shonen story"
Xeno didn't start to become "complex" again until after Xenoblade 1's surprise acclaim reinvigorated Monolith.
Even Suikoden's more complex than Xenoblade 1 and that's a series that doesn't really delve into religion or philosophy at all.
Xenoblade 2 is still the most controversial/hated xeno on Ganker. 3 is just forgettable
>Xenoblade 2 is still the most controversial/hated xeno on Gankereddit
This is what happens when you don't gatekeep dogfucking furgays, obese women that play victim, and trannies. Total Gankeredditor death.
Xenoblade should've gatekept you coomers instead, now you fags act like you've been playing since 1 and in the same breath trash it.
>you've been playing since 1 and in the same breath trash it
I like XC. Shut the fuck up you retarded moron.
xenoblade 2 is for smashfags and coomer secondaries
Forced diversity. Fuck ESG scores and fuck Nintendo for caving into them.
Don't fall for amerilard propaganda:
-Yuzuriha on the left is a woman addressed with female pronouns in the Japanese version and it's never ever been ambiguous that she has a vagene, her being a chud is entirely translator headcanon.
-As for A, it's more complicated, she's an avatar of a CPU that's gone berserk and got kicked out of it, she's not really a person so things like sexuality don't apply to her, so she's not a "they/them" but an "It" with a waifu body
>her being a chud is entirely translator headcanon.
i thought they trannified her because they didnt realize she has sarashi for shooting bow.
Any excuse for americans to let their vile poison slip in
>addressed with female pronouns in the Japanese version
She is? I feel like if any character referred to her by 彼女 in Japanese there never would have been a debate. That would have shut up most of the "allies".
They saw a hill and chose to die on it, if you came at them with facts and logic you were a transphobe and a chud
Because it sucks?
XB2 ruined the series.
XB2 is a masterpiece and pure soulkino of the highest order.
2 will probably remain the peak of the series for the foreseeable future because of how mediocre 3 was.
Well, at the very least, it seems 3 doesn't have much of a chance to beat 2's in terms of sales.
Will this have an impact in the future of the series?
Will they conclude that people want more gacha?
I mean, gacha games are extremely successful, aren't they?
I doubt that's the conclusion they'll reach. But 3's story was both fairly depressing and reserved overall, with a bittersweet ending, at least until FR clarified that the worlds do merge properly later.
Hopefully they'll conclude that people enjoyed the more vibrant, cheerful and bombastic nature that 2 has at the beginning and overall, and add more levity to the next game. And some more tits and ass. Yeah, I said it. Bring back the skimpy outfits, fuck the naysayers.
The gacha shit won't be the main thing they took away from 2's reason for success, Genshitgay
You misunderstand me, dear my gay anon. I don't play gacha, but unlike you i'm not stupid enough to deny that they are plenty successful.
And that simple fact, together with XC2 selling better than XC3, could lead them to conclude they need to bring in more gacha.
I love 3 and N.
The characters are unmemorable and look like they came from make-your-own character defaults.
>two pozzed characters
It’s over.
Weird. I always thought A is female.
She basically is but the game avoids using gender pronouns. Rex says that Ontos was supposed to be the inbetween of Logos (Male) and Pnuema (Female). Alpha is the Male aspect of Ontos since A herself uses male pronouns for him which means that A is female because she is the other half.
People who say she is non binary didn’t understand what the game told them. We are better of this way since if they actually understood what happened she would be the poster child for Trannies
She is. People get mixed up over the whole "Ontos is inbetween Logos and Pneuma", not understanding that it has a male half and a female half.
Mind you, trannies also claim characters like fucking Bridget, so they're all idiots anyway.
>trapfags spend years claiming they aren't gay for liking Bridget
>but then they seethe when this premise is taken to its logical conclusion
lol
Traps are, and have always been, gay.
Also
>The Romans/Greeks didn't think it was gay
Reminder that the Greeks considered "kinaidos" (basically a gay) to be beneath women and underserving of human rights and sexual pedastry was considered absolutely abhorent.
interesting, futafags have same AI as trapfags
>males who like dicks and pretend they aren't gay
Yeah they're the same group
Not liking all the Xeno games is to not understand the Xeno games at all. You either like all of them or you genuinely don't understand what the games are even about.
So why is that wiki lying?
Wait nevermind, wikies are always handled by chuds so of course they lie about the characters gender to push their cult.
meliabros im getting weak...
Obsessed
Bit late, but here you go.
XB3 was still better than the Xenosaga games and X
Both 2 and 3 are shit in different ways.
The old adage, if it makes my penis hard it's not gay
You are coping, gayboi
BBC game
Sexy enby envy.
Surrender to the they/them pussy, chuds
Reminder that in The Monado Archives (released 2010), Alvis's gender is left ambiguous (there's question marks next to "male", none of the other characters have this) and his Japanese voice actor makes him a lot more feminine than his English voice actor, which was almost entirely lost in English.
takahashi was planning this from the start
Btw, OP is trolling you guys, and the wiki lists her as "unspecified".
She is female of course, but i can understand why someone too gutless to say the truth would take a neutral position on this matter.
It's not a matter of gutlessness, the LGBTIA roving gangs will look at any crumb of a character's gender or sexuality being slightly ambiguous and try to "claim" them.
It's why men can't be friends in media or their speculated to be gay for each other, or them trying to claim Link is gay because the player can dress him in female outfits, despite the fact that the game practically beats you over the head that he and Zelda have a serious romantic relationship.
>It's not a matter of gutlessness, the LGBTIA roving gangs will look at any crumb of a character's gender or sexuality being slightly ambiguous and try to "claim" them.
You are right, but if the one who made the page about A was one of them, he/she would have definitely written "NONBINARY" as A's gender.
Since it was left as unspecified, it was done by someone who isn't exactly part of that group but is too gutless to write the truth.
>It's why men can't be friends in media or their speculated to be gay for each other
I hate these people with a passion. Like, look at the retard in pic related.
To be fair, people on Ganker do the same shit with Nikol and Glimmer. The game doesn't push them as a couple at all, but people here ship them because "muh shota" and "muh protagonists' kids"
Not that anon, and I get what you mean, but I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones. Might just be due to my exposure to the former, though.
>I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones
True, but /ss/ shippers are pretty deranged.
/ss/ shippers at least admit that it's purely for fetish reasons
True, but as the other anon said:
>I feel like the homosexual shippers tend to be more "deranged" than heterosexual ones.
Men can't be friends in media using gay men to portray them. That's the difference. Acting is a purely homosexual endeavour given the necessity of sucking off old gnomish men.
I hate fan 'canon' so much
Just sayin'
It doesn't matter, all of these games suck compared to the actual true best Xenoblade game, X. This is undeniable absolute fact. Honestly, if X actually had a main story that existed it would be too powerful for this world, it had to limit itself so our feeble minds would not burst upon seeing such glory.
The annoying thing is that they're both awesome characters, but retards on both sides won't give a shit because muh pronouns.
1&2 had decently conclusives stories, as a duology.
Then 3 start as a decent standalone story, but devs have to make a trilogy because reasons, and tries shoehorning references and callbacks of 1&2 without proper buildup, or outright forgetting key elements of Klaus' saga.
Hate is too strong of a word, because the game is still fun, but worldbuilding and story was a letdown.
I wonder if anyone else noticed that both 4chanschizos and chudcord-raider types act like this shit isn’t your standard “localisation” bullshit and somehow proves Monolith Soft is pozzed/whatever the chud equivalent of based is. Same thing with Taion, they both almost need him to be black (which he isn’t) to validate there attitudes to the game
It’s fucking madness
It's sad, they're the exact same as the SJWs they're (rightfully) hating.
I still have to see any evidence of juniper ever being mentioned as nonbinary in game.
The lack of gendered language is used as evidence by those types of people.
Coping janny chud.
Last for melia a shit
Shulk x Fiora - Nikol
Shulk x Melia - Eunie
Melia x Fiora - Ethel
Thanks for warning. Wasn't really interested in playing this after X but it's good to know not to.
I was gonna tell you to relax but I've changed my mind on spoon-feeding you the thread