she has multiple holes it's no big deal It's easy to imagine a bunch of people freed from the flame clock would probably start experimenting with polygamy/orgies as soon as they discover what secks is
i've seen this said before but it makes no fricking sense to me. "i like the number four so my favorite person is actually my fourth favorite person". is this just standard bad anime writing?
She was playing coy and joking with one of her best friends, because she knew Taion would overanalyze and miss her point.
It really is not that hard to understand.
yeah i understand her just being flirty but i don't understand people acting like the number four is some smart allusion to her liking four leaf clovers that should be obvious to someone who got to this scene 60 hours after the last time eunie mentions liking four leaf clovers.
yeah i understand her just being flirty but i don't understand people acting like the number four is some smart allusion to her liking four leaf clovers that should be obvious to someone who got to this scene 60 hours after the last time eunie mentions liking four leaf clovers.
also it's pretty clearly stated she likes the clovers because of the superstition where if you get enough you'll live forever or something, not because she's obsessed with the number four or the shape of the clover or whatever
Move her from Eunie's side quest to the cloudkeep. Now she's on the critical path.
Instead of fighting X then Y separately again in Origin, have us fight some super interlinked non-binary form.
End Eunie's side quest with D
End Lanz's side quest with J
>How is Mio a better healer though ?
It's not really hard for Mio to do better as anything other than Zephyr, before release people used to say she had made Lanz and the whole XC1 tank class redundant because dodge tank>heavy tank, but in reality she's fragile as frick and the second she starts pulling aggro she dies as soon as she gets hit, so running her as a Zephyr without Heavy Guard Lanz to counterbalance is a really bad idea.
She however does wonders as a Troubador, I mean, if she's gonna be fragile as shit anyway you might as well give her good healing, this also helps her not draw much aggro.
The big reason I've seen for Signifer Lanz is that hos chain order and ouroboros finisher are awful, so you'll never pick him in chains. This means he won't attack, and can keep power charge for the entire chain attack and pass it every turn, instead of losing it and wasting a turn using cross impact.
Sena makes a good signifer for the same reason, but she's better as an ogre.
Some of the translated Agnus class names are dumb as frick. Crusher was fine, no need for Ogre. Incursor (Attack Knight), Strategos (literally just Strategist), and Stalker (Phantom Archer) are fine, but Thaumaturge and Seraph are really random choices since the originals were closer to Alchemist and Soaring Knight. Signifer for Stellar Knight I'm alright with even though it's a bad translation because the new name is at least meaningful.
The best healers are support classes and you don't need a high healing stat to make them good. Their regen is usually sufficient healing unless you're doing positionals on a big enemy.
Lanz's TP is shit and Healers are mostly Chain Attack fillers so it's not a waste to have him heal.
Segiri speaks like an AI. Why would you fault Sena for struggling to approach her?
Sena gets much better at connecting with her during her Ascension quest and doesn't slow down the party with the Colony 0 name picking quest. That's a big improvement.
Was the party aware that by defeating Z the world they live in and their current selves would dissappear? I don't remember them ever saying anything like that and I was surprised during the ending scene when Taion says the worlds will split apart. They never really have a discussion about explicitly sacrificing themselves.
Also why did Taion give Eunie a book to keep even though she wouldn't be able to keep it as the worlds would reset to before the endless now. He even mentions writing it with Kevesi ink and notebook so it'll last. Were they even aware that they would stop existing? Did Melia and Nia mislead them?
They found out after the fact that the worlds would split. I don't think any of them expected things to go back to the very moment of collision. If that were the case, things things like Taion giving Eunie the tea wouldn't have happened because even he would have thought it pointless.
I have to wonder if Melia and Nia even knew quite how Origin would work once put back together, considering how fricked up everything had become.
Sort of. They learn about it in Nia's postgame quest which I guess canonically happens before they beat Z but is hidden from the player to keep it a twist (which is moronic).
I think not making it clear exactly what was going to happen and the party getting to discuss and make their final choice before the actual ending sequence is the single greatest misstep of the story.
For some reason the game locked Nia's quest that explains it to the postgame. No idea why but canonically it seems the party did all the quests before finishing Z off.
Taion's notebook is weird. But if the game made a prominent focus on it, we can at least theorize it survived the reset since Origin is guided by emotions of souls within and we already have smaller scale precedents of previous incarnations impacting the physical world like Ashera's scar resurfacing again.
It seems that Mio is playing the flute Noah gave her after the reset, so objects might have survived through it, which means Eunie could still have the book too.
I think it's far more likely that the thing that connected Noah and Mio are just their emotions that took the shape of their melodies because Noah's part starts playing in response as he's standing on the town square with an astonished look on his face.
Yeah and when they world split they were still both adults in their regular clothing, what's your point? You think he's gonna fricking give it back to her when they're literally saying goodbye?
idk but that shit was very very dumb. if you were going to essentially die anyway, why would you spend your last moments being sad that you wont see your friends in the other world again? noah, eunie, and lanz should be at least just as sad about losing each other as they are their partner
Was the party aware that by defeating Z the world they live in and their current selves would dissappear? I don't remember them ever saying anything like that and I was surprised during the ending scene when Taion says the worlds will split apart. They never really have a discussion about explicitly sacrificing themselves.
Also why did Taion give Eunie a book to keep even though she wouldn't be able to keep it as the worlds would reset to before the endless now. He even mentions writing it with Kevesi ink and notebook so it'll last. Were they even aware that they would stop existing? Did Melia and Nia mislead them?
also why does the ending show the worlds splitting like that? shouldn't they all just get annihilated together while origin makes two new worlds?
having them all group hug while the world gets nuked would've been even cooler/more emotional than the dumb separation before dying offscreen that we got
With how hamfisted they made that Life Sent On motif in all the emotional scenes I was expecting that all the offseers around the world would've joined in to offset Aionios as it finally annihilated itself into a ball of light similar to the start of the Klaus experiment.
That way it could cleanly end with Origin recreating the one singular world where they can meet up with each other again.
The fact that the offseers are such an important theme of the game but they never once get to off-see anything or anyone we care about is just one of many missed opportunities.
Imagine if the game ended with the Homecoming of one or more of the main characters, or indeed all of Aionios. Would have made for a much better bittersweet ending than the confusing one we got.
>The fact that the offseers are such an important theme of the game but they never once get to off-see anything or anyone we care about is just one of many missed opportunities.
The off-seer thing is discovered to be pointless bullshit by mid-game when Noah off-sees the mud golems and they let off motes even tough they're specifically stated to not be real people, it is one of the systems put in place by Z to control the population by giving them false hope about an afterlife and keep them from thinking too hard about the glaring inconsistencies in their lives like the Armu thing Noah and Mio talk about, the whole game is a gigantic allegory for the prison Earth theory.
My feelings were welling up from that theme playing all the time preparing to burst at Mio's homecoming only for it to happen at a point that was clearly too early for gameplay purposes not to spoil.
So far the only time I've seen them mentioning the worlds will split is on postgame Nia's ascencion quest...so no they just randomly knew that the worlds were going to split. As for the book, the character didn't know what would happen after the split, they could just hope.
The first three chapters feel a little bit slow because they're essentially just about traversing the world while the party gets to know each other, the second half of the game is nonstop greatness.
For me the first 4 chapters hardly felt slow with all the different mechanics being thrown at you left and right and so much unexplored areas naturally walled off by high level enemies.
Even with the increased stakes at the end of every chapter I was wondering how are they gonna manage to top this next chapter.
In fact by the time I got to Chapter 5 I was saying it's too early for this end game level of hype I was expecting at least 10 chapters.
Also it was too much too fast. So much emotional fake outs that muddy up the emotions that they were trying to build towards.
By the time I was in Chapter 6 I just wanted the game to end because I knew there wasn't any other big twist besides learning how Z relates back to Klaus.
>For me the first 4 chapters hardly felt slow with all the different mechanics being thrown at you left and right and so much unexplored areas naturally walled off by high level enemies.
I may be far too used to Xenoblade because none of this phases me anymore. >In fact by the time I got to Chapter 5 I was saying it's too early for this end game level of hype I was expecting at least 10 chapters.
The number of chapters has always been inconsistent among the games, but the game lenght in general is similar, if anything 3 is fairly longer than 2, the reason the game feels like it is barely starting by chapters 4-5 is because that's where the bulk of the story happens, they really do spend far too much time trying to reach Swordmarch.
Because Moebius in general are pieces of shit, that's kind of the requirement, Triton's only good because he's so old and senile he has forgotten to be a fricking butthole.
its hard to be good when you already have a dysfunctional mind with a power complex
Crys is also technically good but hes moebius entirely by how entertaining his FWEEEE obsession is, kinda like N's deal but he didnt succumbed to evil, and rose up again just to make sure Noah is good and resolved
Crys mostly just felt done with everything, even before dying, he was the one person who wised up to the futility of it all and was just looking for a death on his terms, learning the truth just drove him off the deep end.
Bros I've done everything before the final boss, but my affinity with agnus castle is still stuck at 4 star. I tried doing some collectopedia cards but they are way too slow. There must be some more quests to give more affinity right?
There's a couple postgame sidequests that should fill up Agnus Castle affinity. The only two colonies I needed to spam collectopedia for even after doing everything else was Colony Mu and Colony 9 for some reason
Since N and M didn’t disappear when they disappeared, so you think they were both chilling in the minds of Noah and Mio for the remainder of the game, kind of like Atem and Yugi?
if you count all memory and personality stored "a person" then yes. M pretty much cloned her entire mind over Mio, and vice versa
a lot kind of forgot the clause of "when M mindjack someone, M herself cant move". At the beginning of the fight M(io) has already been completed and both M(io) and (M)io are one and the same (aside from the different body type, clone or moebius), thus "my word is hers, and her will is mine" in the prison
I really hated how they made Mio's body gasp after the transfer when it's supposed to be M in there and should be fully aware of what happened. Then had her acting shifty in the background which seemed more like someone who only now learned the truth, but was keeping quiet about it.
Also wondered if Noah interlinking with M wouldn't have felt slightly strange to him since memories are shared and all though it's easy to relegate that to only first time fusion.
It felt more likely that the true final swap happened after N planned the side show and M and Mio give that sudden side look to each other.
It's mostly fast recharge + her talent art letting you pause buffs which synergizes insanely well with Signifer's bullshit.
It also has some really good passives like restoring arts for everyone.
It's mostly the skills and Talent Art. I've found more success having another Signifer with Swiftsong and Glittering Melody equipped instead to get the most out of Troubadour's kit without actually having one. Ring O' Roses is okay, but you can only have three fields up at a given time. Your support will likely override the field faster than you can take advantage of it.
The same way cores are created in titan wombs? Everything in Alrest is derived from cores combined with cloud sea nanobots, so their bodies contain all the info needed to create further cores.
Holy shit the amount of connections different factions/world form by the end of the game certainly makes me feel the post-credit scene cuts off minutes before the worlds are about to be reconnected on a larger scale. Basically every Colony got at least some connections with outworlders.
at least Camm and Ethel would teleport immediately, or Zeon and his spud
But yea id bet Noah is the symbolic opener of the floodgate, just like how back on Aionios he as an ouroboros started the clock chopping
Anyone here have a kos-mos figma if so do you like it? There's one on sale around me for 60 bucks so I might pick it up if its still there. Used but has the box and everything.
Noah, Mio and Sena are better off as their base classes because of their attack buffs + fantastic abilities/passives
Swordfighter Noah is Zenobia tier tard attacker with Unlimited Sword on top of it, Ogre Sena is a break machine, Zephyr Mio is by far the best tank in the game and you want her attack as high as possible to draw aggro better.
The rest are whatever you want.
Noah is better off as either >Swordfighter for UMs. Just equip capable hand if you want to delete things faster >Incursor or Martial artist for dodge-tank-dps-lucky-seven-rushing if you dont like abusing capable hand, or need a class to fix your mistake fast and build up your unzip fast enough
Eunie as medic gunner is a beast, Mio as either zephyr/troubadour, andTaion is a flex to fill your team's need since hes not really esp good at anything
Taion is better at anything besides healers because of his high TP. Having the most Dex means FMJ/Incursor/Seraph are good fits for him since they rely on/get bonuses for landing hits successfully.
So i am at the beginning of chapter 6 and i dont get the characters at all. Did i miss something or why is nobody in the party asking the most basic questions. Oh cool we are ouroboros and must defeat the evil moebius! Yeah but what is that exactly and how does it work and what are moebius and why are they that way? It just drives me mad. Why just go along with everything without ever asking questions about the origin of the world and whatever
i mean...who could they ask? Guernica dumped that on them, pointed them toward the sword and croaked. The cityfolks barely understood the ouro stones and just treated it as glorified weapon. ofc they would bombard Nia the creator of such device with question
dont forget they are soldiers. Being practical with whatever they have at hand to survive is crucial
The moebius for one? Hey uhh so before we fight and all, is there a particular reason for all this? How exactly did you become a moerbius Joren? Not telling me? Ok thats fine.
Would have been enough. But they are not even asking once
Writers gave up at Chapter 6. The fact that they basically don't ask anything to Nia and run off comically in the middle of a conversation and then have to come back later is so fricking bizarre.
The brilliance doth please. For ceaseless Eons, We Moebius have abidden apace with this world.
Yet with drawn-out abiding, many lost sight of the pith thereof...dissipating slowly as doth the world.
The brilliance of life is exigent, more dazzling than now...If we wish...to save the world...
I wish they established what happens if a Moebius doesn't feed on life energy. We sorta got an implied idea with M, but it seems the repercussions are absolutely nothing.
This, holy shit the secret areas in this game were bad. The only cool one I can think of was the spring in the desert and the blue place above the falls. This whole game in general was really underwhelming when it came to visuals, which is by far my favorite part of Xenoblade.
It left a really bittersweet feeling to me because I really appreciated the narrative and gameplay aspects of the game after the absolute shitshow that was 2, but man why did they sacrifice the actual exploration for it? 2 had some awful level design but at least some of the areas were visually and/or conceptually impressive.
world design is pretty bad in this game compared to 1 and 2
honestly really sours me on the game despite everything else ranging from great to excellent
i like the joyless, desolated feeling of the walk from Aetia to Swordmarch, esp Alfeto, and it augmented the awe when you reach the sea and lost colony. but yea they toned down on the colours and eyecandies a bit too much during that segment
and at least the skyline is phenomenal this time when you can see across the regions. My favourite bits were the trek to the uraya trail, then looking back and seeing colony 4 peaking out from behind a cliff, and that sheer cliffside during your prison infiltration overlooking Bionis head. The scale is magnificent
I wouldn't consider that really world design, that seems like more of a narrative tone take. All the areas in the game are just reused from the other 2 worlds but without any of the cool shit from them. One area that I thought was really cool was the Malevolent Hollow and the Geothermal Strip leading to it.
>All the areas in the game are just reused from the other 2 worlds but without any of the cool shit from them
this is my biggest problem
there's practically no identity in the areas
it's all a literal mishmash of shit from 1 and 2 with no identity or discerning characteristics to it
even the areas that should be really cool like maktha are designed terribly and super tiny
it's literally just a couple of buildings and one big ass tree. then a poison swamp at the bottom. you take 3 steps and boom you're in the next area doing the big bad showdown against the castle
What happened? Do you think this map is designed by their B team? What's Monolith A team working on then?
2 years ago
Anonymous
I think it’s just a consequence of the plot itself. Constant war and the worlds being smashed together and stuff
2 years ago
Anonymous
Do they even have two teams? Anyways I think they just sacrificed too much for the narrative, if not Ninty pulled too many people for help with TotK.
2 years ago
Anonymous
MonolithSoft now has a dedicated team for helping other devs fix their shit to avoid another situation like Xenoblade 2 where a majority of the team was taken because a bigger game needed help.
2 years ago
Anonymous
idk. maybe they rushed the world, it's literally just a bunch of reused assets from 1 and 2 (of course they made new shit for 3 but they also reused a ton of stuff, they literally made 1DE just to reuse its assets in 3). maybe the have too much staff working on tears of the kingdom, maybe they're putting their all into that fantasy game they're supposedly making. maybe they went too hard into the whole 1+2=3 thing the game is based around
2 years ago
Anonymous
>maybe they're putting their all into that fantasy game they're supposedly making
Apparently Xenoblade is the only thing Ninty has given them the actual go-ahead for so I doubt that's anything more than a pipe dream.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Like they can't just put a letter next to "Xenoblade" and make a game that has nothing to do with Xenoblade like with Xenoblade X, there isn't even a sword in X.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>there isn’t a sword
BLADE, is an acronym. Builders of a Leg After the Destruction of Elma. Fricking excellent, I think.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Like the other anons said, I think this is a case of the game suffering from the narrative.
Shin Megami Tensei V had a similar problem. Where the devs decided to go for the insolation angle so the world came out as dull.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Shin Megami Tensei V had a similar problem. Where the devs decided to go for the insolation angle so the world came out as dull.
i played 20 hrs of smtv before getting burned out (because i had put 120 hrs into p5r earlier that year) and the first area honestly feels better than anything in xc3. and i put 140hrs into this game
2 years ago
Anonymous
>and the first area honestly feels better than anything in xc3
Because is the first area, it´s a novelty, the problem is all areas are a variant of the first area.
Second area is just first area but red + fairy village
Third area is just first area but gray/black + some verticality
Fouth area is just first area but blue/white + glowing blocks.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The four main areas feel totally different from each other. Compare the long Sweeping valleys and caves in the first region to the sprawl with territorial factions in their own biomes of the fourth area. The only commonality between them is the sand and ruined buildings.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Only dull purely from an art asset perspective. The level design in V is top notch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
True, should have specified.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>What's Monolith A team working on then?
Obviously the new Zelda... Again. The Zelda team is probably trying to permanently take members from monolith soft
it does feel like a narrative design choice tho, your walk gets progressively more fantastical >started with a literal lifeless wasteland >colony 9 was camped in a cramped cliffside >milick started, green and big, but nothing much. Can mixed Alfeto in (even if i really like it, the foreshadowing of upper Aetia was GREAT) >ribbit flat and danagh with a lot more flora and fauna instead of same old bunnit, grog and a territorial robert >then tableland culminated at the saffronia tree and the old battlefield immediately after >then Uraya trail to Cotte Fall (with Maktha foreshadowing in the distance) to Maktha itself to sword's base get progressively stranger and stranger >city for infodump >then after swordmarch the world opened free with the sea and way too many fricking things to do and see
What is fantastical about any of those places you can find on earth besides the giant sword? Why are you even attempting to argue about this?
2 years ago
Anonymous
because it parallel the party's eyes and mind opening to the wonder of the world beyond just fighting endlessly (everyblight plain), to an enlightenment moment (city lore dump), to true freedom (the sea)
fantasy doesnt mean it cant be on earth anon. You cant deny Fellowship of the ring's fantastical scenery even if everything was literally New Zealand. its the sight and the feeling attributed to it. And its not like seeing the petrified Fallen arm, the eerie Maktha and the base of the sword arent fantastical
2 years ago
Anonymous
Okay so you keep arguing that it is indeed narrative design instead of fantastical world design, there's really no point in arguing when you don't even know what you're talking about
2 years ago
Anonymous
its a narrative design of from-mundane-to-fantastical
it has both, its not a mutually exclusive case anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
The sea didn't really impress me that much honestly. There was very few areas I wanted to just stop and look at. I think the only one where I thought 'man that's pretty' is Great Cotte Falls
2 years ago
Anonymous
Meanwhile Xenoblade 2 is filled to the fricking brim with amazing vistas and landscapes
People said this was the B team? Uraya is literally one of my favorite places in a videogame ever
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Meanwhile Xenoblade 2 is filled to the fricking brim with amazing vistas and landscapes
In the first 40% of the game. Then it falls off the fricking cliff.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Wrong?
Space Station Orbit alone when you reach the top is maximum fricking kino
Not also forgetting the praetorium
2 years ago
Anonymous
Literally nothing about the entire World Tree is impressive aside from Indol and Torna tarding it out on a background. It's fricking dull both aesthetically and mechanically, they could've done far more with an orbital station.
Aesthetically 2 ends the second you fight Zeke for the last time. Indol and beyond are fricking embarrassing.
2 years ago
Anonymous
id argue that 2's strength lied in localized wonder, while 1 and 3 lied in expansiveness. depending on your taste you would prefer one to another
kind of remind me of the complaints about 2's "too constrained and small" feel since 1 and X were so HUGE back before it
dont get me wrong 2's world was amazing, and funnily enough my fav vista was on the arguably most boring titan, Temperantia
2 years ago
Anonymous
Literally only Uraya and Leftheria like this. >Gormott
Greener version of Gaur Plain, Melnath's head and fins act like the Bionis leg armor. >Mor Ardain
Desert and abandoned steel buildings. >Indol
Discount Alcamoth. >Temperantia
Grey wasteland. >Tantal
Discount Valak. >Elpys
Grey cave. >Cliffs of Morytha
Grey cliffside. >Morytha
Earth city. >World Tree
Sterile mechanical shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'd argue XB3 is what made Morytha good because it went balls deep into "green postapocalyptic city with a metric shit load of waterfalls" aesthetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Mor Ardain
Is alright >Indol
Nothing like alcamoth >Temperantia
Yeah fair enough >Elpys
Yeah fair enough >Cliffs of Morytha
Nah I like this one >Morytha
No this part is great >World Tree
This part is great too frick you
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tree >This part is great too frick you
Completely inferior aesthetic compared to Mechonis, tech in XC2 is boring white iPod-looking shit.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Mechonis isn’t the final dungeon, it would be more accurate to compare it to Prison Island.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not about the final dungeon, it's about the aesthetic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the area behind colony iota is very scenic. right by the spider um.
No it doesn't. All the post-credits scene shows is that there is a new universe. It indicates nothing about the old one. We already know more than one version of a character's soul can exist at a time, from N/M.
Nia's quest and her final words over the photo with Rex literally spell it out for you that the worlds get rebooted.
The process is not immediate, and Mio's final diary suggests she had enough time to write it when the reboot process was already in a process and her memories started being hazy.
How does Taion even know which materials are or aren´t from Keves?
Is not as if Keves and Angus are actual countries in Aionos. All regions are a mixture of places from both world:
>Aetia
Gormott and Bionis Leg >Fornis
Mechonis and Torna >Pentelas
Uraya, Makna Forest and Morytha >Keves Castle
Mor Adain and Alcamoth >Cadensia
Eryth Sea, Leftheria, Bionis Head and Mechonis Sword.
i mean theres a literal original denizen of "Keves" right there. Or if hes too shy, he can consult the 15TP "Agnian" counterpart and do the opposite thing
It likely is the remains of Valak, Where else in Xeno do you see crystals like that? It's not exactly the same, but that can be chalked up to erosion.
2 years ago
Anonymous
By that logic where in Xeno do you see anything like the plants in the Searing Strand or Malevolent Hollow? You realize not literally everything in the game world is reused from the previous 2 games right? You have the first grader's equivalent of deduction skills holy shit
its a narrative design of from-mundane-to-fantastical
it has both, its not a mutually exclusive case anon
Except, again, none of it is fantastical. Stop conflating the two
Upper Aetia is Melnath's dead head. >The crystals on that one island?
Precisely, it's the same crystal model but modified so it looks broken and burned out.
Those aren't Valak at all. Just because a place has crystals means it's Valak mountain? Valak's "crystals" weren't even crystals they were fricking ice
Imagine being this fricking moronic.
The crystals in Valak are not ice, they're ether crystals that Bionis uses to "replenish" the sky during the night because the "sky" in that universe isn't a real sky, it is a flat front recreated by Zanza from his memories of Earth.
>he cant see how the top of the Corne's crystals are broken
also inb4 >it was white, glowing up in yellow means nothing
well i dunno anon
2 years ago
Anonymous
Dude like
theres way more crystals in the corne island assets dude
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absolute headcanon not referenced at all in the game
"recharging the sky" lmfao
said, those are unironically different models. You can see the placement of the crystals is different and there are way more crystals in each asset on Corne island
Stop arguing in bad faith
So? It's still the same shape and size crystal formations, but broken and burned out by the sun; other callbacks like Mor Ardain's hand also use modified models, it doesn't mean it's not Mor Ardain's hand.
Are you one of the fricking morons who insist upper Aetia HAS to be Valak because "hurr durr ice and snow"? Other locales also changed radically, Fallen Arm used to be a tropical island; riddle me this, genius: Why is upper Aetia shaped EXACTLY like Melnath's head if it is supposed to be Valak Mountain? And where are the "ice" crystals?
2 years ago
Anonymous
No I don't think Aetia is based on Valak, Valak simply isn't in this game. That's part of the problem.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Everything is in the game, that's the point, Aionios is a mish mash of the data for both worlds, including shit that was destroyed long ago like Torna, even Temperantia is in the game, the only locations not in the game are places that were utterly annihilated before the end of their respective titles, like most of Mechonis and the World Tree.
2 years ago
Anonymous
well ackshually theres one place that shouldnt be there, Danagh desert, being from Torna, but then the thing was only sunk, not entirely destroyed i guess
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah it was just raised back with a tectonic shift of some sort.
2 years ago
Anonymous
moron, you can't handwave away an inconsistency in your own argument with "muh plate tectonics"
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't bother arguing with him he's too moronic to admit that any crystal you see doesn't mean it's Valak Mountain.
Duh
Speaking of which you know what I just realized, the crystals on Corne Island are more likely to be the crystals at the top of the cliffs in Satorl Marsh if anything, dumbass
2 years ago
Anonymous
i can feel the 150 150 150 150 150 from that pic
God frick Satorl mash early part. pretty to look at, annoying to traverse
and then theres that fricking nopon in the cave
theres way more crystals in the corne island assets dude
Imagine being this fricking moronic.
The crystals in Valak are not ice, they're ether crystals that Bionis uses to "replenish" the sky during the night because the "sky" in that universe isn't a real sky, it is a flat front recreated by Zanza from his memories of Earth.
absolute headcanon not referenced at all in the game
"recharging the sky" lmfao
>absolute headcanon not referenced at all in the game
Oh, because common "ice" shooting random yellow beams at the sky at night is a thing.
Newsflash homosexual, the crystal was never specified to be ice either, but you conveniently don't mention that.
Also, imagine being so crippled by shitty westoid media that you can't infer obvious shit on your own and need everything spelled out for you.
2 years ago
Anonymous
one thing is the crystals shooting out yellow light into the sky at night and making the area look cool and yellow
another thing is you pulling out of your fricking ass that the sky is fake and the crystals are "replenishing" the sky because of zanza's memories or some shit. and then pretending you're some loremaster. unironic literal headcanon with absolutely nothing to support it in-game
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not a thing, but it's a fricking fantasy game dude. It's really not that deep.
Everything is in the game, that's the point, Aionios is a mish mash of the data for both worlds, including shit that was destroyed long ago like Torna, even Temperantia is in the game, the only locations not in the game are places that were utterly annihilated before the end of their respective titles, like most of Mechonis and the World Tree.
Okay where is Satorl Marsh?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Elaice Highway. You can't go inside it but it has the Giant Fortress in it.
Upper Aetia is Melnath's dead head. >The crystals on that one island?
Precisely, it's the same crystal model but modified so it looks broken and burned out.
It likely is the remains of Valak, Where else in Xeno do you see crystals like that? It's not exactly the same, but that can be chalked up to erosion.
Yeah no you guys are full of shit, if anything it's Satorl's crystals
Would it have been better if the game had more Hero-less classes, so you had things like Isurd being a full-time antagonist and Miyabi, Ethel, and Cammuravi would stay dead so their sacrifices didn't feel invalidated?
>Two of the founders are said to have lived for 70 years despite being from Agnus/Keves. >Nothing is done with this fact.
Was the plot going to go in a different direction originally or what?
>Noah is a natural born fighter, incredible prowess and power, ridiculous combat judgement despite being a pacifist >the game showers him with cool shit >Mio trains her ass off for her entire life >the game gives her lamess Dominion Flower and the worst chain attack order
I still don't get this, he pretty willingly fricks up almost anyone who's an butthole in the game except ones he knows he can possibly reason with like Joran or Chrys
He is a sane take on a pacifist. He will spare everyone he can, he will frick up the rest.
But it's pretty obvious that he loves being a tutor, musician and leader before a fighter.
hes a practical pacifist. Doesnt kill unless its necessary to protect his friends. the good kind of pacifist tb h, not the pansy "nooo i dont wanna kill that murderer who killed my friend"
he even flipped lucky seven around and wack people with the flat side instead of the edge side for levnises and moebius
I really like the early game implications of Judgement Cuts being a result of his ridiculous power and skill rather than just something lucky seven gives him.
Makes sense he can do it with a blunt side too, since he created a vacuum clap with a practice sword as a kid.
Its because he is a more mature take on pacifist protagonist.
Somewhat unrelated, but I really like how he is afraid to show his martial art talent because its the direct opposite of what he want to be seen. Its only when he is called out for being selfish that he stop fricking around and put his full strenght to the cause he is pretending fighting for. Really nice internal character conflict solved in a powerful way.
It’s just damage when there’s usually a better effect on that can be used there. For Noah there’s no reason to not use Lucky Seven because of how absurdly powerful it is but Dominion Flower is just kind of meh.
It's kinda funny that N is shown faster in cutscenes than Jin was in 2.
You can still see Jin's movements, N feels closer to the actual "speed of light", especially since his attacks are outright explosive.
>N airslash snipping that poor dude from afar just because
speaking of which, its so nice they flipped the "oh so what, people are reborn anyway, death is meaningless" on its head with the cityfolks. Shocked me hard when that dude and Dana just got greyed out. Pure seething i felt for the latter too, since i got attached to her through Seeker's quests
and ye i know, even when reincarnated its not the same person anymore, but still
>even when reincarnated its not the same person anymore
Still the same soul so the same sense of "self" even if with different memories, which is what matters the most.
Idk about that, aren't N and Noah the same soul? But they both exist at the same time, so they can't both have the same sense of self. They can't be both looking out of each others' eyes at the same time
>aren't N and Noah the same soul
N is a fragment of Noah. He acknowledges as much in the last fight.
And they are a very unique case the DLC will likely touch upon since it feels like there was a background keikaku just to bring the rest of Noah's and Mio's souls back.
id say they are 1 soul split in half , if "souls" in xc3 are basically just data
that was how M "came back" for that finale even when her "soul" technically evaporated alongside Mio's body. Her data containing all she is was still stored inside Mio's soul-storage or sth
I completely forgot about Dana by the time she died since I did most of Seeker's quests early. Still shocked they had the balls to kill a named NPC off like that though.
Yeah, like what the frick? Nobody ever mentions being able to shape shift their blades. Also, why do multiple people comment about Noah's blade being special? It makes me feel like there was intended to be more story about it
there were only 3 or so? >Guernica going "ah, that sword". No idea whats hes on here, maybe just "oh shit this kid has a sword of my ancestor, but red" >Ethel and Mio noticed something "strong" about it, but mostly because they are seasoned fighters. And Noah explained to Mio immediately after anyway
the outside, Veiled Sword is Riku's work, not Noah's. And with how hes one of the Hammer holder, well he did some frickery would be the answer
Noah's original blade was just a mundane Kevesi broadsword but red for some reason id say its just protag/future heroes priviledge since all heroes have unique blades too that persist through rebirths
the only canon case of blade swapping through rebirth was Eunie, from standard rifle to cane-gun >tfw you were born with a shitty flintlock musket and must live with it for eternity, never reaching commander tier
>Yeah, like what the frick? Nobody ever mentions being able to shape shift their blades
From the main party alone, you have Mio's rings that change size for the talent art, Lanz's sword that transform into a turret and Sena's hammer that become a dumbbell or a ball that explode.
Blades reshaping is really not that special.
dont forget Teach's staff is actually a nunchaku, Alex's sword being able to fragment and form, and the absolutely OP, can-do-anything nature of Taion's mondo
Hell, even the blades that don't shapeshift can extend their edges or shoot beams.
Which is a neat explanation of why swords and spears type blades can compete against guns type Blades.
Also, the gameplay elements imply they can do more that what their shapes imply, like Juniper's bow creating the art follow up field.
He's literally fighting as Zanza 2.0
The gauntlet is Meyneth's Monado. Even has a triangular symbol on it. It becomes especially similar when you upgrade his weapon.
For the anons who asked awhile back, there actually is a way to model swap into an Ouroboros without noodling due to height difference. All you have to do is also replace the chXXXXXXXX_field.mot file on top of the usual model files. The downside is that all you can really do is walk around (can't run, jump or swim), but you can still get some cool screenshots out of it I guess.
This also works on any NPC that has a field file. Some of them (like child Noah/Eunie/Lanz/Segiri, Shania and X) can even run.
Tried replacing the battle file but it still didn't work, water walk might be hardcoded into the Ouroboros mode itself rather than the field/attack files. I'll try again another time, because I might have fricked up somewhere along the way.
>Lucky Seven is a sleekier throwback to Zanza's Monado >Truthsinger+gauntlet is a throwback to Meyneth's Monado >to meme on Z, Melia and Riku were forced to create a new Zanza
“theres a monado inside everyone of us”
jest aside each god (Zanza and Meyneth) had their own monado, and Shulk pulled out a third at the end
monado Replica EX is what its name implied, a very close-to-original-article monado, just missing the foresight and godly power
“theres a monado inside everyone of us”
jest aside each god (Zanza and Meyneth) had their own monado, and Shulk pulled out a third at the end
monado Replica EX is what its name implied, a very close-to-original-article monado, just missing the foresight and godly power
The way I see it, the experiment somehow made Klaus and Galea resonate with Ontos (Alvis), being an Aegis allows him resonate with whoever he wants just like how Pyra/Mythra choose Rex and how Malos ditched Amalthus.
Then Shulk getting a third monado is like Rex getting Pneuma. The Aegis deciding his Driver is worthy enough to use it´s full power.
So yeah, basically a Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma situation but without the split personality.
I was expecting pretentious warrior obsessed with fighting and I kinda did get that, but I liked that the quest to actually get him had him be more chill.
I thought people were reaching but after finding him in Colony Omega and seeing him interact with Ethel in their ascension quest, I do believe there is a high chance he is Rex and Pyra´s son.
Even his "way of the warrior" shit reminds me a lot of Rex´s salvager code austism.
What a completely out of character things for everyone to just let her be. But "haha lets put in the yandere b***h everyone will love that" trumps good writing I suppose
The only 3 character we can be sure is related to a recurring one is Mio being Nia's daughter. Anything else is guesswork and speculation.
That said, among those who lack direct evidence of known parentage, Crys is a strong candidate for being Shulk's spawn. (As much as I want to think Noah is, too, it's a bit of a stretch, though besides minor resemblances his mark does mirror Crys' mark)
I want to think he is, but it's impossible to really substantiate. I largely chalk it up to protag similarities.
I do find the "Noah is reincarnated Malos" shitposting funny, however stupid.
Noah could be a literal Vandham related to "Vangarre" in BIonis (it's his uncle/grandfather maybe) but it doesn't make a lot of sense that way considering he wouldn't know anything about his past life on Bionis to name himself that, unless every soldier in Aionios has a surname we're not told about. Most if not all Xenoblade characters outside of nobility aren't given surnames iirc, excluding X.
What's interesting is XB2 Vandham isn't even really called Vandham he just made it his nickname because of some guy called Vandham he looked up to as a kid. So I think a similar thing happened in 3 where Nia told M about her Vandham to Mio and she named her and Noah's son after him continuing the tradition of adopting the Vandham name. Or they didn't name his son Vandham but Nia's story was passed on still so N and M's descendant just named the house of after him.
I doubt it, honestly. Like I said, I mostly chalk up Shulk and Noah's similarities to them being mostly the same protagonistic archetype. (In my personal opinion, you could take Shulk and Fiora, and Noah and Mio, and swap games, and things would play out virtually identical between either couple. Biggest difference being MAYBE Noah wouldn't be 100% oblivious to Melia and would let her down gently.)
Since Noah is a trained soldier i predict he could even save Fiora in the beginning.
>Noah, a character who canonically made a horrible choice after witnessing his lover die >Making a good choice upon witnessing his lover die
Fat fricking chance. If 3's Homecoming scene is anything to go off of, he'd just cry out for her and writhe on the ground. He could just have easily pulled out L7 at that moment but didn't.
Shulk gets shit done. Even without the 'Person' symbol in the Monado, he pierces Metal Face's head with pure fricking rage.
Noah witnessed Mio die countless times and he always manned the frick up before. This time the circumstances were different because N was specifically trying to break him.
He would've gone apeshit on Mumkhar even harder than Shulk did, or would predict this situation happening and prevent Fiora's death in first place because he clearly has more common wisdom and tactical skills than Shulk.
Shulk and Noah were in very different situations though, Shulk’s adrenaline was already up from fighting and he had the Monado in his hands, Noah came out of being locked up for a month and was in a completely hopeless situation and had already spent his rage punching the iron bars
Mio looks a bit like Galea
So it's just them repairing their relationships, if anything >inb4 DLC confirms this and it's why this is the end of "Klaus saga"
No she doesn't? What the frick is with you moronic headcanonites literally scavenging for the smallest possible detail and whipping up the craziest ideas from it?
Some people even form several connections like Valdi with both Alexandria and Isurd.
This is why i feel like Noah and Mio are just the first signs of a massive interplanar travel that is about to begin after the ending.
Really wish there was a way to fast forward in Event Theatre. Or at least chop them up into smaller cutscenes that play in sequence. No need for there to be loading screen segments in between my cutscenes
It's another world created from your own when the resident god had a schizo episode so it's ok think of it like a cosmic continental drift except the cat you want to frick comes from nanomachines and you come from magic robot demigods and the concept of needing to have sex really is moot because humanity literally did go extinct and that homosexual god had to restart from scratch and come to think of it reproduction isn't a problem at all anymore
One of the writers for 3 said he would like to make X2 next and revisit that side of the series but who knows. I think Monolith Soft have built up enough good will at this point to make an X sequel and then potentially port X to Switch afterwards if it does well like XC2's success paved the way for XC1 Definitive Edition. Takahashi said the only reason X hasn't been re-released is because of the money it would cost but if a sequel did well I think that'd clinch it.
I don't think it's a huge risk either. Set X2 on a different part of Mira in new city like New Tokyo which was cut from the original game, have a new cast and an actual story to follow to get newcomers on board like XB2 and XB3 are friendly to new players and have some X characters carry over similar to Melia and Nia in 3 so Elma, Lao and the Black Knight could show up at least to asset or antagonize the new characters.
Yeah but saying switch is easier than "whatever nintendo console exists at that time" and also they might release some kind of switch pro to keep the lifespan of the console going.
When you upgrade swordfighter, it gets additional edges on it which kinda makes it look a bit similar, especially given that it also has a triangular symbol on it.
He hasn't quite figured it out, but at least the fricker actually thought about it for himself instead of regurgitating whatever opinion he saw online. He's closer than most of you fricks to understanding the ending.
>third sword after ontos and pneuma >called "sword of the end" >created to destroy the world >it's melia's
I still haven't fully recovered from laughing at Malosgays
It's just a symbolic gesture. He is finally free to throw it away because he's free from being a soldier.
Riku states that the sword is always with him so i have no doubts he can still summon the thing after a reset if he really needs it.
>Both characters are heavily influenced and directly question the world around them >Both characters have bonds with others that enforce their questioning >Both ultimately come to the conclusion that the world needs to be destroyed. >Lucky Seven's entire shtick is being a sword regarded for its sheer destructive power, and only reaches that potential when Noah accepts his power and utilizes it for its purpose.
The biggest difference is that Aionios is significantly more fricked than Alrest, and Noah has greater justification.
The very beginning of the game highlights that Noah thinks very differently compared to the rest of the cast, directly questioning the world before the party meets up.
Those characteristics apply the most to know, and given that he is also the de facto leader, it's not hard to see that he is at the very least thematically related.
No, he's clearly thematically related. Literally a leader of Torna 2.0 on top of wielding a literal endbringer and wanting to end the world.
It doesn't matter if he's not Malos, he's clearly fulfilling Logos functions anyway.
The last entire week has been me with her at the vet while they've been trying to figure out what was happening to her, since she suddenly stopped eating and her blood level's almost rock bottom. She's gotten to a point where she's degrading so fast none of the treatments are working and it's breaking my heart.
>by the end of Valdi's questline even Alexandria warmed up a bit towards him
Someone should keep an eye on this homie after a reboot. He can easily create a disaster if left to his devices because some other jealous little shitter will steal his work.
>Start rewatching Xenoblade 2's cutscenes >Tfw it's pure, uncut, unfiltered SOVL
And I don't use that meme word lightly. I remember exactly why I got hooked by this game. I still cannot grasp how people didn't like Rex. He's not some annoying chunni brat with overhyped dreams. He's a pretty chill, go with the flow dude. Pretty damn low energy, just doin his job. He became a salvager because he thought Elysium existed, and maybe there was a trick to getting there at the bottom of the World Tree. It's a legit job, while exploring his more naive optimism. When Nia is constantly busting his balls, he fires back at her like a pro. He's a cheeky c**t I swear.
As much as I love Tora, I think him and Poppi are what made people write 2 off as 'too silly/anime'. A case could also be made for Zeke, but two comic relief characters was a big ask, even if Zeke basically dials down his goofiness once he joined the party.
I agree though. I remember when I first played 2 i initially hated his guts. By the time I hit the World Tree I was rooting for the guy and genuinely felt bad when he was being ripped apart and crying at the dinner table.
I've softened on Rex over the years.
The only thing I don't like about him is his dumbass mickey mouse clown shoes and design.
Though it's still somewhat enjoyably goofy.
People don’t like Rex because his dub voice sucks, he’s constantly involved with “win in game, lose in cutscene” shit, and has the depth of fricking Naruto
Sure
"""Sure"""
Stop. Rex has plenty of depth. He actually changes throughout his game. Does Noah? He's a bleeding heart from boot up to credits, always right, always doing good. Never makes a mistake.
I say Rex has more human flaws the Noah and Shulk does since he is more prone to mistakes then either one of them and his lack of experience in fighting compared to more professional fighters he goes against makes his losses stand out more compared to the other two. He has to more rely on others because of his lack of experience and strength which makes sense since he the youngest of the all the Xenoblade MCs.
3 in comparison is just lots of action and no substance (yeah there are many touching scenes there, but still) . What's was the point of that boat race to Origin again? Nobody EVER talks about it.
I have an important announcement. I don't care where you play Xeno. I don't care if you played it on PS1, PS2, DS, Wii, 3DS, WiiU, Switch, PC, or Steam Deck. If you played and beat a Xenogame then you are extremely based.
Noah hears the Kevesi Flute (important because Noah has the Agnus flute by the end of the game while Mio has the Kevesi) and when the birds fly he disappears.
Current theory is that he fricked off to Alrest to see Mio.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not just a kevessi flute. It's a tune that was specifically his own, and it's called "Off-Seer Noah" in the OST. He gifts it to Mio, and she starts using it after a flute exchange.
Crys, for example, has a distinctly different version and during a dialogue with Noah even mentions that his tune is now different.
So in the end it's shared emotions between Noah and Mio that manifest through those tunes and allow them to sense each other again and reunite.
THE KEEP FRICKING COMING
Ethel is cute! CUTE!! She deserves more! She deserves better! She deserved a swimsuit!
ETHELLL!
CUTE
Disgusting 10th term hag, unless you meant the 1st term Ethel then I agree.
I sorta wished we got to keep 1st term Ethel as a hero
built for Cammuravi's wiener
>Cammuravi
What a strange way of spelling Bolearis.
Aurora Borealis? At this time of the year?
GHONDOR, THE CITY IS ON FIRE
Nah, b***hqueen, we're just killing the now.
she has multiple holes it's no big deal
It's easy to imagine a bunch of people freed from the flame clock would probably start experimenting with polygamy/orgies as soon as they discover what secks is
>not a sh*nia thread
based
Oh boy here we go
i've seen this said before but it makes no fricking sense to me. "i like the number four so my favorite person is actually my fourth favorite person". is this just standard bad anime writing?
She was playing coy and joking with one of her best friends, because she knew Taion would overanalyze and miss her point.
It really is not that hard to understand.
When does she allude to liking the number 4 and not just fourtune clovers?
This is what I don't get. Don't you have to get 7 fourtune clovers for them to be special anyway?
yeah i understand her just being flirty but i don't understand people acting like the number four is some smart allusion to her liking four leaf clovers that should be obvious to someone who got to this scene 60 hours after the last time eunie mentions liking four leaf clovers.
also it's pretty clearly stated she likes the clovers because of the superstition where if you get enough you'll live forever or something, not because she's obsessed with the number four or the shape of the clover or whatever
I think she was just fricking with him and people are reading into it too much.
She was clearly teasing him
How do we fix consul X?
Move her from Eunie's side quest to the cloudkeep. Now she's on the critical path.
Instead of fighting X then Y separately again in Origin, have us fight some super interlinked non-binary form.
End Eunie's side quest with D
End Lanz's side quest with J
Oh no!!! I’ve tripped over and now my bare ass is exposed! I sure hope some brash cat girl doesn’t come and peg me from behind!!
IQ required to understand and enjoy the story of each game.
1<2<3<<<<<<<<<<<<<<X
2>X>3>1
Flip 1 and X and you got yourself a deal.
No, you just replied to the answer moron why are you posting your shitty guess
>XC3
>Run for your life, she is here!!!
Don't worry thread! Noah will protect us from her!
have a nice day moron
Takahashi, I implore you to stop making the girls so cute. My heart can't handle it.
Touch some grass, weeb
Grow some chesthair, kid.
I'd rather them not start making them like western "heroines"
They already started. Her name is Taion.
What do you think of Fei you shizo?
He was based on a Chinese nationalist martial artist
Taion is not like western characters at all.
Cope, schizo. Taion is the most popular XC3 heroine.
How'd they make a model as pretty as Mio from Saitom's sameface design?
>Noah cross realities behind you
>Has the highest Dex
>Learn attacker classes besides healer classes
>Part of a spy network
Wait, Taion was the ninja archetype all along ?
Onmyoji
ドーマンセーマンドーマンセーマン
So Taion is a onmyoji, Mio a ninja, Sena a oni, Noah's a samurai.
What about Eunie and Lanz ?
Gunner and shielder
Nearly everyone ends up doing better in a different niche, Lanz and Mio both end up being better healers than defenders.
Lanz's healing power stat is low though, so why does he perform better as a healer?
more bulk
Because unlike every other healer he doesn't keel over after one hit, Signifier Lanz is one of the best classes in the game.
>Signifer
Ok a class that doesn't rely on healing, so he shares buffs better than others due to his tank HP stat.
Having a healer that can take a hit can be useful.
How is Mio a better healer though ?
>How is Mio a better healer though ?
It's not really hard for Mio to do better as anything other than Zephyr, before release people used to say she had made Lanz and the whole XC1 tank class redundant because dodge tank>heavy tank, but in reality she's fragile as frick and the second she starts pulling aggro she dies as soon as she gets hit, so running her as a Zephyr without Heavy Guard Lanz to counterbalance is a really bad idea.
She however does wonders as a Troubador, I mean, if she's gonna be fragile as shit anyway you might as well give her good healing, this also helps her not draw much aggro.
The big reason I've seen for Signifer Lanz is that hos chain order and ouroboros finisher are awful, so you'll never pick him in chains. This means he won't attack, and can keep power charge for the entire chain attack and pass it every turn, instead of losing it and wasting a turn using cross impact.
Sena makes a good signifer for the same reason, but she's better as an ogre.
Some of the translated Agnus class names are dumb as frick. Crusher was fine, no need for Ogre. Incursor (Attack Knight), Strategos (literally just Strategist), and Stalker (Phantom Archer) are fine, but Thaumaturge and Seraph are really random choices since the originals were closer to Alchemist and Soaring Knight. Signifer for Stellar Knight I'm alright with even though it's a bad translation because the new name is at least meaningful.
Getting Attack Up on the final hit of a chain attack isn't bad early, I dunno why buffs don't even last for a full round in chains though
The best healers are support classes and you don't need a high healing stat to make them good. Their regen is usually sufficient healing unless you're doing positionals on a big enemy.
Lanz's TP is shit and Healers are mostly Chain Attack fillers so it's not a waste to have him heal.
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Segiri speaks like an AI. Why would you fault Sena for struggling to approach her?
Sena gets much better at connecting with her during her Ascension quest and doesn't slow down the party with the Colony 0 name picking quest. That's a big improvement.
Was the party aware that by defeating Z the world they live in and their current selves would dissappear? I don't remember them ever saying anything like that and I was surprised during the ending scene when Taion says the worlds will split apart. They never really have a discussion about explicitly sacrificing themselves.
Also why did Taion give Eunie a book to keep even though she wouldn't be able to keep it as the worlds would reset to before the endless now. He even mentions writing it with Kevesi ink and notebook so it'll last. Were they even aware that they would stop existing? Did Melia and Nia mislead them?
They found out after the fact that the worlds would split. I don't think any of them expected things to go back to the very moment of collision. If that were the case, things things like Taion giving Eunie the tea wouldn't have happened because even he would have thought it pointless.
I have to wonder if Melia and Nia even knew quite how Origin would work once put back together, considering how fricked up everything had become.
Sort of. They learn about it in Nia's postgame quest which I guess canonically happens before they beat Z but is hidden from the player to keep it a twist (which is moronic).
I think not making it clear exactly what was going to happen and the party getting to discuss and make their final choice before the actual ending sequence is the single greatest misstep of the story.
For some reason the game locked Nia's quest that explains it to the postgame. No idea why but canonically it seems the party did all the quests before finishing Z off.
Taion's notebook is weird. But if the game made a prominent focus on it, we can at least theorize it survived the reset since Origin is guided by emotions of souls within and we already have smaller scale precedents of previous incarnations impacting the physical world like Ashera's scar resurfacing again.
It seems that Mio is playing the flute Noah gave her after the reset, so objects might have survived through it, which means Eunie could still have the book too.
I think it's far more likely that the thing that connected Noah and Mio are just their emotions that took the shape of their melodies because Noah's part starts playing in response as he's standing on the town square with an astonished look on his face.
What? It doesn't show the flute at all, why would you make such a baseless assumption?
I noticed during the world splitting that Noah still explicitly had Mio's flute on his belt.
Yeah and when they world split they were still both adults in their regular clothing, what's your point? You think he's gonna fricking give it back to her when they're literally saying goodbye?
idk but that shit was very very dumb. if you were going to essentially die anyway, why would you spend your last moments being sad that you wont see your friends in the other world again? noah, eunie, and lanz should be at least just as sad about losing each other as they are their partner
also why does the ending show the worlds splitting like that? shouldn't they all just get annihilated together while origin makes two new worlds?
So they can have the emotional running scene
having them all group hug while the world gets nuked would've been even cooler/more emotional than the dumb separation before dying offscreen that we got
With how hamfisted they made that Life Sent On motif in all the emotional scenes I was expecting that all the offseers around the world would've joined in to offset Aionios as it finally annihilated itself into a ball of light similar to the start of the Klaus experiment.
That way it could cleanly end with Origin recreating the one singular world where they can meet up with each other again.
The fact that the offseers are such an important theme of the game but they never once get to off-see anything or anyone we care about is just one of many missed opportunities.
Imagine if the game ended with the Homecoming of one or more of the main characters, or indeed all of Aionios. Would have made for a much better bittersweet ending than the confusing one we got.
>The fact that the offseers are such an important theme of the game but they never once get to off-see anything or anyone we care about is just one of many missed opportunities.
The off-seer thing is discovered to be pointless bullshit by mid-game when Noah off-sees the mud golems and they let off motes even tough they're specifically stated to not be real people, it is one of the systems put in place by Z to control the population by giving them false hope about an afterlife and keep them from thinking too hard about the glaring inconsistencies in their lives like the Armu thing Noah and Mio talk about, the whole game is a gigantic allegory for the prison Earth theory.
My feelings were welling up from that theme playing all the time preparing to burst at Mio's homecoming only for it to happen at a point that was clearly too early for gameplay purposes not to spoil.
They inherently understand what they're doing will literally end the world in its current state.
So far the only time I've seen them mentioning the worlds will split is on postgame Nia's ascencion quest...so no they just randomly knew that the worlds were going to split. As for the book, the character didn't know what would happen after the split, they could just hope.
I want to smell the inside of Mio’s cat ear cavity.
I can't imagine it smelling good but it looks like fun.
It looks comfy as frick
Just got to chapter 3. So far I think Lanz Taion and Eunie are my favorite characters. The game’s pacing feels off and Riku is fricking hilarious.
Good taste and yes the pacing of the game is weird. It does hit its stride in chapter 4 though and then kinda falls apart in chapter 6.
The first three chapters feel a little bit slow because they're essentially just about traversing the world while the party gets to know each other, the second half of the game is nonstop greatness.
For me the first 4 chapters hardly felt slow with all the different mechanics being thrown at you left and right and so much unexplored areas naturally walled off by high level enemies.
Even with the increased stakes at the end of every chapter I was wondering how are they gonna manage to top this next chapter.
In fact by the time I got to Chapter 5 I was saying it's too early for this end game level of hype I was expecting at least 10 chapters.
Also it was too much too fast. So much emotional fake outs that muddy up the emotions that they were trying to build towards.
By the time I was in Chapter 6 I just wanted the game to end because I knew there wasn't any other big twist besides learning how Z relates back to Klaus.
>For me the first 4 chapters hardly felt slow with all the different mechanics being thrown at you left and right and so much unexplored areas naturally walled off by high level enemies.
I may be far too used to Xenoblade because none of this phases me anymore.
>In fact by the time I got to Chapter 5 I was saying it's too early for this end game level of hype I was expecting at least 10 chapters.
The number of chapters has always been inconsistent among the games, but the game lenght in general is similar, if anything 3 is fairly longer than 2, the reason the game feels like it is barely starting by chapters 4-5 is because that's where the bulk of the story happens, they really do spend far too much time trying to reach Swordmarch.
Why Triton is the only good morbius?
I was close but in the end decided to refuse to parley and suicide by cop
Because Moebius in general are pieces of shit, that's kind of the requirement, Triton's only good because he's so old and senile he has forgotten to be a fricking butthole.
its hard to be good when you already have a dysfunctional mind with a power complex
Crys is also technically good but hes moebius entirely by how entertaining his FWEEEE obsession is, kinda like N's deal but he didnt succumbed to evil, and rose up again just to make sure Noah is good and resolved
Crys mostly just felt done with everything, even before dying, he was the one person who wised up to the futility of it all and was just looking for a death on his terms, learning the truth just drove him off the deep end.
Even as Moebius, he did not do things out of cruelty but from a genuine concern about what will happen if Origin activates again.
Bros I've done everything before the final boss, but my affinity with agnus castle is still stuck at 4 star. I tried doing some collectopedia cards but they are way too slow. There must be some more quests to give more affinity right?
There's a couple postgame sidequests that should fill up Agnus Castle affinity. The only two colonies I needed to spam collectopedia for even after doing everything else was Colony Mu and Colony 9 for some reason
Ah OK, didn't realise there would be quests after the main game.
Only quest left is should I grind out the classes now and go beat Z's ass first.
Go beat Z once you have the classes you like
levnis work yard has some skirmishes you can participate in for affinity
Since N and M didn’t disappear when they disappeared, so you think they were both chilling in the minds of Noah and Mio for the remainder of the game, kind of like Atem and Yugi?
if you count all memory and personality stored "a person" then yes. M pretty much cloned her entire mind over Mio, and vice versa
a lot kind of forgot the clause of "when M mindjack someone, M herself cant move". At the beginning of the fight M(io) has already been completed and both M(io) and (M)io are one and the same (aside from the different body type, clone or moebius), thus "my word is hers, and her will is mine" in the prison
I really hated how they made Mio's body gasp after the transfer when it's supposed to be M in there and should be fully aware of what happened. Then had her acting shifty in the background which seemed more like someone who only now learned the truth, but was keeping quiet about it.
Also wondered if Noah interlinking with M wouldn't have felt slightly strange to him since memories are shared and all though it's easy to relegate that to only first time fusion.
It felt more likely that the true final swap happened after N planned the side show and M and Mio give that sudden side look to each other.
Why people hyped miyabi so much?
I dont see her arts being overpower
It's mostly fast recharge + her talent art letting you pause buffs which synergizes insanely well with Signifer's bullshit.
It also has some really good passives like restoring arts for everyone.
Fiona (Mashiro) should kiss Miyabi, on the lips.
Fiona X Valdi
It's mostly the skills and Talent Art. I've found more success having another Signifer with Swiftsong and Glittering Melody equipped instead to get the most out of Troubadour's kit without actually having one. Ring O' Roses is okay, but you can only have three fields up at a given time. Your support will likely override the field faster than you can take advantage of it.
I put the signifer and troubador talent arts on everybody besides my defender and Noah
You can give all of her class's good shit to other classes
>Nia birthed this
Care to fricking explain how Mio's core was generated? Wombs aren't assembly lines.
klaus sexbot nanite magic
The same way cores are created in titan wombs? Everything in Alrest is derived from cores combined with cloud sea nanobots, so their bodies contain all the info needed to create further cores.
Is this the same catprostitute from the last game or just a copy paste?
Her daughter with Rex.
thats hot
How hard is going to bite me in the ass to not give any Iota supply to Tau?
i don't think it matters at all outside of whatever reward you get from the supply request card
you will eventually get enough to supply everyone. Its even a requirement for a certain quest down the line
Holy shit the amount of connections different factions/world form by the end of the game certainly makes me feel the post-credit scene cuts off minutes before the worlds are about to be reconnected on a larger scale. Basically every Colony got at least some connections with outworlders.
at least Camm and Ethel would teleport immediately, or Zeon and his spud
But yea id bet Noah is the symbolic opener of the floodgate, just like how back on Aionios he as an ouroboros started the clock chopping
Anyone here have a kos-mos figma if so do you like it? There's one on sale around me for 60 bucks so I might pick it up if its still there. Used but has the box and everything.
So whats the best class for everyone?
Noah: flash fencer
Lans: Signfier
Senna: Ogre for break spam
the rest: ????
I run 5 soul hackers and an ogre and autobattle topple lock everything to death
Noah, Mio and Sena are better off as their base classes because of their attack buffs + fantastic abilities/passives
Swordfighter Noah is Zenobia tier tard attacker with Unlimited Sword on top of it, Ogre Sena is a break machine, Zephyr Mio is by far the best tank in the game and you want her attack as high as possible to draw aggro better.
The rest are whatever you want.
Noah is better off as either
>Swordfighter for UMs. Just equip capable hand if you want to delete things faster
>Incursor or Martial artist for dodge-tank-dps-lucky-seven-rushing if you dont like abusing capable hand, or need a class to fix your mistake fast and build up your unzip fast enough
Eunie as medic gunner is a beast, Mio as either zephyr/troubadour, andTaion is a flex to fill your team's need since hes not really esp good at anything
Eunie : Medic gunner (max out all other healer classes tho)
Taion : whatever, I use Lone Exile
Mio : Zephyr
Hero : Melia. Nia if you use Soulhacker
Taion is better at anything besides healers because of his high TP. Having the most Dex means FMJ/Incursor/Seraph are good fits for him since they rely on/get bonuses for landing hits successfully.
So i am at the beginning of chapter 6 and i dont get the characters at all. Did i miss something or why is nobody in the party asking the most basic questions. Oh cool we are ouroboros and must defeat the evil moebius! Yeah but what is that exactly and how does it work and what are moebius and why are they that way? It just drives me mad. Why just go along with everything without ever asking questions about the origin of the world and whatever
MIO! IT’S FEELINGS!
i mean...who could they ask? Guernica dumped that on them, pointed them toward the sword and croaked. The cityfolks barely understood the ouro stones and just treated it as glorified weapon. ofc they would bombard Nia the creator of such device with question
dont forget they are soldiers. Being practical with whatever they have at hand to survive is crucial
The moebius for one? Hey uhh so before we fight and all, is there a particular reason for all this? How exactly did you become a moerbius Joren? Not telling me? Ok thats fine.
Would have been enough. But they are not even asking once
But the answer for how was answered by literally seeing N's process.
Even M (who was a moebius for at least 1000 years) doesn´t shit about what Z is or wants, orwhy the world is the way it is.
Writers gave up at Chapter 6. The fact that they basically don't ask anything to Nia and run off comically in the middle of a conversation and then have to come back later is so fricking bizarre.
Nothing. They don't really explain shit, I was super invested in the game for the first 5 chapters but it kinda all fell apart near the end
The brilliance doth please. For ceaseless Eons, We Moebius have abidden apace with this world.
Yet with drawn-out abiding, many lost sight of the pith thereof...dissipating slowly as doth the world.
The brilliance of life is exigent, more dazzling than now...If we wish...to save the world...
I wish they established what happens if a Moebius doesn't feed on life energy. We sorta got an implied idea with M, but it seems the repercussions are absolutely nothing.
What secret areas?
This, holy shit the secret areas in this game were bad. The only cool one I can think of was the spring in the desert and the blue place above the falls. This whole game in general was really underwhelming when it came to visuals, which is by far my favorite part of Xenoblade.
It left a really bittersweet feeling to me because I really appreciated the narrative and gameplay aspects of the game after the absolute shitshow that was 2, but man why did they sacrifice the actual exploration for it? 2 had some awful level design but at least some of the areas were visually and/or conceptually impressive.
world design is pretty bad in this game compared to 1 and 2
honestly really sours me on the game despite everything else ranging from great to excellent
Yeah, I know people hate the phrase, but it really feels like a great game, just not a good Xenoblade game.
i like the joyless, desolated feeling of the walk from Aetia to Swordmarch, esp Alfeto, and it augmented the awe when you reach the sea and lost colony. but yea they toned down on the colours and eyecandies a bit too much during that segment
and at least the skyline is phenomenal this time when you can see across the regions. My favourite bits were the trek to the uraya trail, then looking back and seeing colony 4 peaking out from behind a cliff, and that sheer cliffside during your prison infiltration overlooking Bionis head. The scale is magnificent
I wouldn't consider that really world design, that seems like more of a narrative tone take. All the areas in the game are just reused from the other 2 worlds but without any of the cool shit from them. One area that I thought was really cool was the Malevolent Hollow and the Geothermal Strip leading to it.
>All the areas in the game are just reused from the other 2 worlds but without any of the cool shit from them
this is my biggest problem
there's practically no identity in the areas
it's all a literal mishmash of shit from 1 and 2 with no identity or discerning characteristics to it
even the areas that should be really cool like maktha are designed terribly and super tiny
it's literally just a couple of buildings and one big ass tree. then a poison swamp at the bottom. you take 3 steps and boom you're in the next area doing the big bad showdown against the castle
they dropped the ball super fricking hard
What happened? Do you think this map is designed by their B team? What's Monolith A team working on then?
I think it’s just a consequence of the plot itself. Constant war and the worlds being smashed together and stuff
Do they even have two teams? Anyways I think they just sacrificed too much for the narrative, if not Ninty pulled too many people for help with TotK.
MonolithSoft now has a dedicated team for helping other devs fix their shit to avoid another situation like Xenoblade 2 where a majority of the team was taken because a bigger game needed help.
idk. maybe they rushed the world, it's literally just a bunch of reused assets from 1 and 2 (of course they made new shit for 3 but they also reused a ton of stuff, they literally made 1DE just to reuse its assets in 3). maybe the have too much staff working on tears of the kingdom, maybe they're putting their all into that fantasy game they're supposedly making. maybe they went too hard into the whole 1+2=3 thing the game is based around
>maybe they're putting their all into that fantasy game they're supposedly making
Apparently Xenoblade is the only thing Ninty has given them the actual go-ahead for so I doubt that's anything more than a pipe dream.
Like they can't just put a letter next to "Xenoblade" and make a game that has nothing to do with Xenoblade like with Xenoblade X, there isn't even a sword in X.
>there isn’t a sword
BLADE, is an acronym. Builders of a Leg After the Destruction of Elma. Fricking excellent, I think.
Like the other anons said, I think this is a case of the game suffering from the narrative.
Shin Megami Tensei V had a similar problem. Where the devs decided to go for the insolation angle so the world came out as dull.
>Shin Megami Tensei V had a similar problem. Where the devs decided to go for the insolation angle so the world came out as dull.
i played 20 hrs of smtv before getting burned out (because i had put 120 hrs into p5r earlier that year) and the first area honestly feels better than anything in xc3. and i put 140hrs into this game
>and the first area honestly feels better than anything in xc3
Because is the first area, it´s a novelty, the problem is all areas are a variant of the first area.
Second area is just first area but red + fairy village
Third area is just first area but gray/black + some verticality
Fouth area is just first area but blue/white + glowing blocks.
The four main areas feel totally different from each other. Compare the long Sweeping valleys and caves in the first region to the sprawl with territorial factions in their own biomes of the fourth area. The only commonality between them is the sand and ruined buildings.
Only dull purely from an art asset perspective. The level design in V is top notch.
True, should have specified.
>What's Monolith A team working on then?
Obviously the new Zelda... Again. The Zelda team is probably trying to permanently take members from monolith soft
If this was a Kingdom Hearts game, it would be called Xenoblade 1+2 Future Connected
3 should have been a new chapter with a new setting
it does feel like a narrative design choice tho, your walk gets progressively more fantastical
>started with a literal lifeless wasteland
>colony 9 was camped in a cramped cliffside
>milick started, green and big, but nothing much. Can mixed Alfeto in (even if i really like it, the foreshadowing of upper Aetia was GREAT)
>ribbit flat and danagh with a lot more flora and fauna instead of same old bunnit, grog and a territorial robert
>then tableland culminated at the saffronia tree and the old battlefield immediately after
>then Uraya trail to Cotte Fall (with Maktha foreshadowing in the distance) to Maktha itself to sword's base get progressively stranger and stranger
>city for infodump
>then after swordmarch the world opened free with the sea and way too many fricking things to do and see
What is fantastical about any of those places you can find on earth besides the giant sword? Why are you even attempting to argue about this?
because it parallel the party's eyes and mind opening to the wonder of the world beyond just fighting endlessly (everyblight plain), to an enlightenment moment (city lore dump), to true freedom (the sea)
fantasy doesnt mean it cant be on earth anon. You cant deny Fellowship of the ring's fantastical scenery even if everything was literally New Zealand. its the sight and the feeling attributed to it. And its not like seeing the petrified Fallen arm, the eerie Maktha and the base of the sword arent fantastical
Okay so you keep arguing that it is indeed narrative design instead of fantastical world design, there's really no point in arguing when you don't even know what you're talking about
its a narrative design of from-mundane-to-fantastical
it has both, its not a mutually exclusive case anon
The sea didn't really impress me that much honestly. There was very few areas I wanted to just stop and look at. I think the only one where I thought 'man that's pretty' is Great Cotte Falls
Meanwhile Xenoblade 2 is filled to the fricking brim with amazing vistas and landscapes
People said this was the B team? Uraya is literally one of my favorite places in a videogame ever
>Meanwhile Xenoblade 2 is filled to the fricking brim with amazing vistas and landscapes
In the first 40% of the game. Then it falls off the fricking cliff.
Wrong?
Space Station Orbit alone when you reach the top is maximum fricking kino
Not also forgetting the praetorium
Literally nothing about the entire World Tree is impressive aside from Indol and Torna tarding it out on a background. It's fricking dull both aesthetically and mechanically, they could've done far more with an orbital station.
Aesthetically 2 ends the second you fight Zeke for the last time. Indol and beyond are fricking embarrassing.
id argue that 2's strength lied in localized wonder, while 1 and 3 lied in expansiveness. depending on your taste you would prefer one to another
kind of remind me of the complaints about 2's "too constrained and small" feel since 1 and X were so HUGE back before it
dont get me wrong 2's world was amazing, and funnily enough my fav vista was on the arguably most boring titan, Temperantia
Literally only Uraya and Leftheria like this.
>Gormott
Greener version of Gaur Plain, Melnath's head and fins act like the Bionis leg armor.
>Mor Ardain
Desert and abandoned steel buildings.
>Indol
Discount Alcamoth.
>Temperantia
Grey wasteland.
>Tantal
Discount Valak.
>Elpys
Grey cave.
>Cliffs of Morytha
Grey cliffside.
>Morytha
Earth city.
>World Tree
Sterile mechanical shit.
I'd argue XB3 is what made Morytha good because it went balls deep into "green postapocalyptic city with a metric shit load of waterfalls" aesthetic.
>Mor Ardain
Is alright
>Indol
Nothing like alcamoth
>Temperantia
Yeah fair enough
>Elpys
Yeah fair enough
>Cliffs of Morytha
Nah I like this one
>Morytha
No this part is great
>World Tree
This part is great too frick you
Tree
>This part is great too frick you
Completely inferior aesthetic compared to Mechonis, tech in XC2 is boring white iPod-looking shit.
Mechonis isn’t the final dungeon, it would be more accurate to compare it to Prison Island.
It's not about the final dungeon, it's about the aesthetic.
the area behind colony iota is very scenic. right by the spider um.
Your post is a far larger leap in logic and a bunch of headcanons than any of those replies
No, I am exclusively stating what the game literally shows us.
The game literally tells you that Nia is going to see her family soon.
Debate the game with your inane headcanons, not me.
The post credits sequence completely demolishes that idea.
No it doesn't. All the post-credits scene shows is that there is a new universe. It indicates nothing about the old one. We already know more than one version of a character's soul can exist at a time, from N/M.
Sear this quote into your mind before you try writing fanfiction again.
Nia's quest and her final words over the photo with Rex literally spell it out for you that the worlds get rebooted.
The process is not immediate, and Mio's final diary suggests she had enough time to write it when the reboot process was already in a process and her memories started being hazy.
How does Taion even know which materials are or aren´t from Keves?
Is not as if Keves and Angus are actual countries in Aionos. All regions are a mixture of places from both world:
>Aetia
Gormott and Bionis Leg
>Fornis
Mechonis and Torna
>Pentelas
Uraya, Makna Forest and Morytha
>Keves Castle
Mor Adain and Alcamoth
>Cadensia
Eryth Sea, Leftheria, Bionis Head and Mechonis Sword.
How would he know?
35 TP and feelings
Nia and Melia helped out most likely.
i mean theres a literal original denizen of "Keves" right there. Or if hes too shy, he can consult the 15TP "Agnian" counterpart and do the opposite thing
>original denizen of "Keves" right there
Who?
Northern Cadensia also includes small remnants of Elpys and Valak, and Southern Cadensia maight be a tropicalized Satorl.
Isn't Elaice Highway Satorl + Fallen Arm?
I thought upper aetia would be valak. It's snowy, and roughly in the same place. What does Cadensia have of Valak? The crystals on that one island?
Upper Aetia is Gormott, you can make out the shape of it's horns there. Valak is that crystal island, just melted and eroded I suppose.
No it's not. That's not Valak at all. Just because it has crystals (that look nothing like it) doesn't mean fricking anything are you blind?
It likely is the remains of Valak, Where else in Xeno do you see crystals like that? It's not exactly the same, but that can be chalked up to erosion.
By that logic where in Xeno do you see anything like the plants in the Searing Strand or Malevolent Hollow? You realize not literally everything in the game world is reused from the previous 2 games right? You have the first grader's equivalent of deduction skills holy shit
Except, again, none of it is fantastical. Stop conflating the two
Upper Aetia is Melnath's dead head.
>The crystals on that one island?
Precisely, it's the same crystal model but modified so it looks broken and burned out.
>same exact crystal model
Show me proof Black person
Where? Where is the Valak remnants? Fricking show me you lying homosexual
He's probably talking about Corne Island, which has similar crystals.
Corne island
Those aren't Valak at all. Just because a place has crystals means it's Valak mountain? Valak's "crystals" weren't even crystals they were fricking ice
Imagine being this fricking moronic.
The crystals in Valak are not ice, they're ether crystals that Bionis uses to "replenish" the sky during the night because the "sky" in that universe isn't a real sky, it is a flat front recreated by Zanza from his memories of Earth.
Duh
Literally different models, are you unironically fricking blind?
>he cant see how the top of the Corne's crystals are broken
also inb4 >it was white, glowing up in yellow means nothing
well i dunno anon
Dude like
said, those are unironically different models. You can see the placement of the crystals is different and there are way more crystals in each asset on Corne island
Stop arguing in bad faith
So? It's still the same shape and size crystal formations, but broken and burned out by the sun; other callbacks like Mor Ardain's hand also use modified models, it doesn't mean it's not Mor Ardain's hand.
Are you one of the fricking morons who insist upper Aetia HAS to be Valak because "hurr durr ice and snow"? Other locales also changed radically, Fallen Arm used to be a tropical island; riddle me this, genius: Why is upper Aetia shaped EXACTLY like Melnath's head if it is supposed to be Valak Mountain? And where are the "ice" crystals?
No I don't think Aetia is based on Valak, Valak simply isn't in this game. That's part of the problem.
Everything is in the game, that's the point, Aionios is a mish mash of the data for both worlds, including shit that was destroyed long ago like Torna, even Temperantia is in the game, the only locations not in the game are places that were utterly annihilated before the end of their respective titles, like most of Mechonis and the World Tree.
well ackshually theres one place that shouldnt be there, Danagh desert, being from Torna, but then the thing was only sunk, not entirely destroyed i guess
Yeah it was just raised back with a tectonic shift of some sort.
moron, you can't handwave away an inconsistency in your own argument with "muh plate tectonics"
Don't bother arguing with him he's too moronic to admit that any crystal you see doesn't mean it's Valak Mountain.
Speaking of which you know what I just realized, the crystals on Corne Island are more likely to be the crystals at the top of the cliffs in Satorl Marsh if anything, dumbass
i can feel the 150 150 150 150 150 from that pic
God frick Satorl mash early part. pretty to look at, annoying to traverse
and then theres that fricking nopon in the cave
I loved that cave, it was so comfy
theres way more crystals in the corne island assets dude
absolute headcanon not referenced at all in the game
"recharging the sky" lmfao
>absolute headcanon not referenced at all in the game
Oh, because common "ice" shooting random yellow beams at the sky at night is a thing.
Newsflash homosexual, the crystal was never specified to be ice either, but you conveniently don't mention that.
Also, imagine being so crippled by shitty westoid media that you can't infer obvious shit on your own and need everything spelled out for you.
one thing is the crystals shooting out yellow light into the sky at night and making the area look cool and yellow
another thing is you pulling out of your fricking ass that the sky is fake and the crystals are "replenishing" the sky because of zanza's memories or some shit. and then pretending you're some loremaster. unironic literal headcanon with absolutely nothing to support it in-game
It's not a thing, but it's a fricking fantasy game dude. It's really not that deep.
Okay where is Satorl Marsh?
Elaice Highway. You can't go inside it but it has the Giant Fortress in it.
Where?
North of Colony Iota
Show me, I'm not seeing anything
>gets proven wrong and utterly btfo
>leaves the thread without a word
Classic
Winner
You know it
Yeah no you guys are full of shit, if anything it's Satorl's crystals
Its mondo
Ain't gotta explain shit
Non binary character. I hate japan
Would it have been better if the game had more Hero-less classes, so you had things like Isurd being a full-time antagonist and Miyabi, Ethel, and Cammuravi would stay dead so their sacrifices didn't feel invalidated?
Could be better if Mio stayed dead
Melia deserves many, many creampies in her fertile pussy
>Two of the founders are said to have lived for 70 years despite being from Agnus/Keves.
>Nothing is done with this fact.
Was the plot going to go in a different direction originally or what?
>Melia can summon weapon like anyone else
Was she killed and restored as a clone?
No, but like everyone else in Aionios her data was stored in a core crystal, allowing her to summon her weapon.
Melia can teleport and destroy flame clocks an no one bats an eye
Doesn't Mio have the worst completion order out of the main party? It's basically does the same thing as Lanz except it doesn't give attack up
Pretty much. I never use hers unless I ran out of time to activate Eunie/Taion's order, but at least the Noah/Mio Ouroboros does pretty good damage.
>Noah is a natural born fighter, incredible prowess and power, ridiculous combat judgement despite being a pacifist
>the game showers him with cool shit
>Mio trains her ass off for her entire life
>the game gives her lamess Dominion Flower and the worst chain attack order
>despite being a pacifist
I still don't get this, he pretty willingly fricks up almost anyone who's an butthole in the game except ones he knows he can possibly reason with like Joran or Chrys
He is a sane take on a pacifist. He will spare everyone he can, he will frick up the rest.
But it's pretty obvious that he loves being a tutor, musician and leader before a fighter.
hes a practical pacifist. Doesnt kill unless its necessary to protect his friends. the good kind of pacifist tb h, not the pansy "nooo i dont wanna kill that murderer who killed my friend"
he even flipped lucky seven around and wack people with the flat side instead of the edge side for levnises and moebius
I really like the early game implications of Judgement Cuts being a result of his ridiculous power and skill rather than just something lucky seven gives him.
Makes sense he can do it with a blunt side too, since he created a vacuum clap with a practice sword as a kid.
Its because he is a more mature take on pacifist protagonist.
Somewhat unrelated, but I really like how he is afraid to show his martial art talent because its the direct opposite of what he want to be seen. Its only when he is called out for being selfish that he stop fricking around and put his full strenght to the cause he is pretending fighting for. Really nice internal character conflict solved in a powerful way.
What's so bad about Dominion Flower? It's got a solid damage multiplier and recharge rate when combined with an Attacker class.
It's just a burst art. I guess the benefit is that you can stick it on agnusian class?
It’s just damage when there’s usually a better effect on that can be used there. For Noah there’s no reason to not use Lucky Seven because of how absurdly powerful it is but Dominion Flower is just kind of meh.
It's so funny rewatching Peaky blinders and hearing Mio's voice
Melia Antiqua more like Melia Antiquated hymen ROFLLL
It's kinda funny that N is shown faster in cutscenes than Jin was in 2.
You can still see Jin's movements, N feels closer to the actual "speed of light", especially since his attacks are outright explosive.
moron
Rex can still react to his attacks, even if with Foresight. With N you literally can't even see them on screen.
Except he literally can't. You can't see Jin attacking, even when the game slows time down to a standstill. He's much much faster than N.
>N airslash snipping that poor dude from afar just because
speaking of which, its so nice they flipped the "oh so what, people are reborn anyway, death is meaningless" on its head with the cityfolks. Shocked me hard when that dude and Dana just got greyed out. Pure seething i felt for the latter too, since i got attached to her through Seeker's quests
and ye i know, even when reincarnated its not the same person anymore, but still
>even when reincarnated its not the same person anymore
Still the same soul so the same sense of "self" even if with different memories, which is what matters the most.
Idk about that, aren't N and Noah the same soul? But they both exist at the same time, so they can't both have the same sense of self. They can't be both looking out of each others' eyes at the same time
>aren't N and Noah the same soul
N is a fragment of Noah. He acknowledges as much in the last fight.
And they are a very unique case the DLC will likely touch upon since it feels like there was a background keikaku just to bring the rest of Noah's and Mio's souls back.
id say they are 1 soul split in half , if "souls" in xc3 are basically just data
that was how M "came back" for that finale even when her "soul" technically evaporated alongside Mio's body. Her data containing all she is was still stored inside Mio's soul-storage or sth
Sounds like a bunch of farfetched headcanon to me. Almost like the game is poorly written or something
I completely forgot about Dana by the time she died since I did most of Seeker's quests early. Still shocked they had the balls to kill a named NPC off like that though.
Cat Mio.
it's safe to assume that those headwings grow back, right? Literally not a single high entia soldier in this hellscape has a clipped headwing.
Eunie's plumage is everywhere.
El Holographic Gato
I'm still mad as frick that Noah's gauntlet didn't mean frick all and nobody even mentions it.
Yeah, like what the frick? Nobody ever mentions being able to shape shift their blades. Also, why do multiple people comment about Noah's blade being special? It makes me feel like there was intended to be more story about it
there were only 3 or so?
>Guernica going "ah, that sword". No idea whats hes on here, maybe just "oh shit this kid has a sword of my ancestor, but red"
>Ethel and Mio noticed something "strong" about it, but mostly because they are seasoned fighters. And Noah explained to Mio immediately after anyway
the outside, Veiled Sword is Riku's work, not Noah's. And with how hes one of the Hammer holder, well he did some frickery would be the answer
Noah's original blade was just a mundane Kevesi broadsword but red for some reason id say its just protag/future heroes priviledge since all heroes have unique blades too that persist through rebirths
the only canon case of blade swapping through rebirth was Eunie, from standard rifle to cane-gun
>tfw you were born with a shitty flintlock musket and must live with it for eternity, never reaching commander tier
It's actually amusing that Mio's weapon type is a shit tier "common blade" fodder back in 2
Only Bromach was a legendary blade with this weapon type
>Yeah, like what the frick? Nobody ever mentions being able to shape shift their blades
From the main party alone, you have Mio's rings that change size for the talent art, Lanz's sword that transform into a turret and Sena's hammer that become a dumbbell or a ball that explode.
Blades reshaping is really not that special.
dont forget Teach's staff is actually a nunchaku, Alex's sword being able to fragment and form, and the absolutely OP, can-do-anything nature of Taion's mondo
Dunno, the Mondo have some clear limitations. They're very useful for utility though
They're like a generified and less overpowered version of Aerods that inflict curses instead of lasers.
Why are the Mondo shaped like bunnies anyway? Did Nimue just like them?
Those are not bunnies
They are high entias
They're paper Nopons.
They have a sleek waist. Nopons are round.
Clearly a Xenosaga reference since Taion and Shion sound vaguely simlar.
Hell, even the blades that don't shapeshift can extend their edges or shoot beams.
Which is a neat explanation of why swords and spears type blades can compete against guns type Blades.
Also, the gameplay elements imply they can do more that what their shapes imply, like Juniper's bow creating the art follow up field.
He's literally fighting as Zanza 2.0
The gauntlet is Meyneth's Monado. Even has a triangular symbol on it. It becomes especially similar when you upgrade his weapon.
For the anons who asked awhile back, there actually is a way to model swap into an Ouroboros without noodling due to height difference. All you have to do is also replace the chXXXXXXXX_field.mot file on top of the usual model files. The downside is that all you can really do is walk around (can't run, jump or swim), but you can still get some cool screenshots out of it I guess.
This also works on any NPC that has a field file. Some of them (like child Noah/Eunie/Lanz/Segiri, Shania and X) can even run.
Are you controlling the hero character?
Yeah, you can use this tutorial for that.
https://gamebanana.com/tuts/15232
There's a deathzone after a certain point, see vid related.
What happens when you do combat against a creature not too far from the coast? Do you get to walk on water?
Tried replacing the battle file but it still didn't work, water walk might be hardcoded into the Ouroboros mode itself rather than the field/attack files. I'll try again another time, because I might have fricked up somewhere along the way.
Open world games really need to incorporate actual underwater exploration more.
>they actually modeled the sea bed even though you’ll never reach it
That’s actually really interesting.
Is there anything interesting on the sea bottom?
Hope's Rest
Aion is down there
Surprised they didn't make any connections between Artifice Aion or Aionios even in passing, considering their names are so similar even in Japanese.
I’d love to worship some Kevesi and Agnian girl feet.
>Lucky Seven is a sleekier throwback to Zanza's Monado
>Truthsinger+gauntlet is a throwback to Meyneth's Monado
>to meme on Z, Melia and Riku were forced to create a new Zanza
Melia is Klaus and Galea’s child.
I mean Nia’s plan to frick with Z essentially ended up with Torna 2.0.
Why were there two monados in XC1 anyway? did Alvis had a Pyra/Mythra situation that allowed him have two (later three) swords.
“theres a monado inside everyone of us”
jest aside each god (Zanza and Meyneth) had their own monado, and Shulk pulled out a third at the end
monado Replica EX is what its name implied, a very close-to-original-article monado, just missing the foresight and godly power
The way I see it, the experiment somehow made Klaus and Galea resonate with Ontos (Alvis), being an Aegis allows him resonate with whoever he wants just like how Pyra/Mythra choose Rex and how Malos ditched Amalthus.
Then Shulk getting a third monado is like Rex getting Pneuma. The Aegis deciding his Driver is worthy enough to use it´s full power.
So yeah, basically a Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma situation but without the split personality.
I really like that Cammuravi looks like he's some furious butthole, but he's just a kind dude who wants to help everyone.
I expected Ethel to be total b***h.
I was expecting pretentious warrior obsessed with fighting and I kinda did get that, but I liked that the quest to actually get him had him be more chill.
I thought people were reaching but after finding him in Colony Omega and seeing him interact with Ethel in their ascension quest, I do believe there is a high chance he is Rex and Pyra´s son.
Even his "way of the warrior" shit reminds me a lot of Rex´s salvager code austism.
He also had a few cute interactions with Mio where she acted like his big sister.
Pyra is not actually on fire and he doesn't have red hair.
Cammuravi's fire control is botched
It hurts him which means he can't fully control it
Neither does Pyra's baby, get your eyes checked
Check the photo very carefully and say that again.
You are color blind, this is not red. Check its RGB value
It's pink.
It's a grayish/light brown
Pyra's baby, not baby Mio.
It's red, it looks pink because of how light baby hair is.
lol
I am the cloud on a windless day
I am the leaf on a surface of a lake
What does the Japanese version actually say? He literally says like 3 words on the japanese voice lines.
MIO I NEED YOU MI...
>shut up moron, you will wake the kids
You have autism
Lies, Mio would cover his mouth and do the sexo anyways
Cammuravi looks way older than 20
So do Teach, Isurd, Bolearis and Fili.
>Fili
Who was that again?
The Alexandria subordinate who tried to hit on Mio and then fricked off from the colony.
Teach's enemy Avenger was straight-up an old man. Also had the blackest voice for being the whitest guy, hilariously enough.
They were probably older than ten before the merge.
What was her deal?
bdsm
Nier insert
What needs to be in an area for you not to consider it empty? Like people say Tantal is empty. What would it need to not be?
Xenoblade 1 is Empty but pretty: The game. I hated walking so much, there should have been 4x fast-forward like in F12 Remaster.
You mean 2
Movement options I think contribute the most to that feeling.
Cammuravi isn’t Pyra’s son.
Ethel isn’t anyone’s daughter from XC1
What the frick was her problem?
Ouroborus ruined her fun
Is this the psycho b***h that literally no one in the party tries to stop at all?
yes
What a completely out of character things for everyone to just let her be. But "haha lets put in the yandere b***h everyone will love that" trumps good writing I suppose
She'll be the new Queen of Keves soon
The only 3 character we can be sure is related to a recurring one is Mio being Nia's daughter. Anything else is guesswork and speculation.
That said, among those who lack direct evidence of known parentage, Crys is a strong candidate for being Shulk's spawn. (As much as I want to think Noah is, too, it's a bit of a stretch, though besides minor resemblances his mark does mirror Crys' mark)
I'm fairly sure Noah is either not related to anyone or Dunban's
A meme connection is XB1's Vandhams
I want to think he is, but it's impossible to really substantiate. I largely chalk it up to protag similarities.
I do find the "Noah is reincarnated Malos" shitposting funny, however stupid.
Noah has far more chances to be a reincarnated Zanza given that his Ouroboros, aside from obvious Weltall imagery, is literally black Bionis Zanza
Serves zero narrative purpose because Klaus wanted redemption and he probably got it by reuniting with Gaela.
>Implying Mio is not a reincarnated Galea and it's why their connection is literally glitching reality
Sena has to be related to Brihgid. She looks exactly like her
Too much of a simpleton to be Brighid's baby.
And besides, who would be the father?
Rex donated his sperm
If they wanted to imply that, this image would be less exaggerated.
where's poppi's
They could've even put Ino
>Zeke holding a baby
kek
>Dromach holding a baby
KEK
Mythra
Me. I fricked brighid
Finally, a reply with his mind in the right place.
Niall
She looks nothing like Brighid and nothing about them is similar. Sena & Morag both have fat asses tho
Noah could be a literal Vandham related to "Vangarre" in BIonis (it's his uncle/grandfather maybe) but it doesn't make a lot of sense that way considering he wouldn't know anything about his past life on Bionis to name himself that, unless every soldier in Aionios has a surname we're not told about. Most if not all Xenoblade characters outside of nobility aren't given surnames iirc, excluding X.
What's interesting is XB2 Vandham isn't even really called Vandham he just made it his nickname because of some guy called Vandham he looked up to as a kid. So I think a similar thing happened in 3 where Nia told M about her Vandham to Mio and she named her and Noah's son after him continuing the tradition of adopting the Vandham name. Or they didn't name his son Vandham but Nia's story was passed on still so N and M's descendant just named the house of after him.
I doubt it, honestly. Like I said, I mostly chalk up Shulk and Noah's similarities to them being mostly the same protagonistic archetype. (In my personal opinion, you could take Shulk and Fiora, and Noah and Mio, and swap games, and things would play out virtually identical between either couple. Biggest difference being MAYBE Noah wouldn't be 100% oblivious to Melia and would let her down gently.)
Noah wouldn't be as stupid as Shulk about shit like Metal Face though.
Since Noah is a trained soldier i predict he could even save Fiora in the beginning.
Shulk did the right thing about Metal Face though, stop sucking Noah's wiener you actual homosexual
I more meant that their relationship would be more of the same.
Shulk would do little different in Noah's position with Fiora filling in for Mio.
>Noah, a character who canonically made a horrible choice after witnessing his lover die
>Making a good choice upon witnessing his lover die
Fat fricking chance. If 3's Homecoming scene is anything to go off of, he'd just cry out for her and writhe on the ground. He could just have easily pulled out L7 at that moment but didn't.
Shulk gets shit done. Even without the 'Person' symbol in the Monado, he pierces Metal Face's head with pure fricking rage.
As much as I prefer Noah as a character compared to Shulk, Shulk still remains to be the Blade protagonist with the most agency and drive in the plot.
Was Noah just afraid of Lucky Seven because he didnt trust himself until Riku told him to man the frick up?
Noah was afraid of using L7 because he "was afraid of what he would become"
It's a leftover fear of becoming N
Noah witnessed Mio die countless times and he always manned the frick up before. This time the circumstances were different because N was specifically trying to break him.
He would've gone apeshit on Mumkhar even harder than Shulk did, or would predict this situation happening and prevent Fiora's death in first place because he clearly has more common wisdom and tactical skills than Shulk.
Shulk and Noah were in very different situations though, Shulk’s adrenaline was already up from fighting and he had the Monado in his hands, Noah came out of being locked up for a month and was in a completely hopeless situation and had already spent his rage punching the iron bars
All colony 11 members need correction
Specially Clad
>You have been a bad boy, Noah!
>I beg you, don't kill me, Mio-sama! I kneel before you, your majesty...
Mio hurt me :((
Did they ever explain where Mio got her super strength punch in that scene against O and P from?
she ran really fast and the velocity created a lot of force
feelings
How much do the games tie into eachother? No spoily please
1 + 2 = 3
Thank you both
It's impossible to say without spoilers
They tie into each other so much they might as well all be one world.
-> grope breasts
I am pleased by the high amount of shape changing weapons in Xenoblade 3, hopefully they continue the trend in the DLCs.
agnus or keves?
Yes
agnus for superior art recharge speeds.
Of course, Keves
Ethel because she isn't underage and less of a conniving b***h.
at the end of XC3, she's a 10 year old who was intantly aged up to 19
>19
Too old, gimme the prime colony 0 dicky anyday.
Fiona is so precious
Keves for the girls, Agnus for the boys
miyabi
>almost every agnus and keves hero pair with each other
so the 2 worlds attractiveness to each other transfers to the inhabitants too?
I always hated this explanation. I'm not asking for a scientific one but anything is better than "the worlds yearn for each other"
It's the Xenogears Nisan single wing creation myth writ large.
After creation of Origin that yearning does have a deus ex machina behind it.
Its a full on fantasy franchise by that point, the science fiction is more superficial aesthetic more than anything.
Reject lore, embrace romance.
Tfw Noah is the reincarnation of Zanza and Mio is the reincarnation of the Architect and they're yearning for each other pulled the worlds together.
Mio looks a bit like Galea
So it's just them repairing their relationships, if anything
>inb4 DLC confirms this and it's why this is the end of "Klaus saga"
No she doesn't? What the frick is with you moronic headcanonites literally scavenging for the smallest possible detail and whipping up the craziest ideas from it?
Some people even form several connections like Valdi with both Alexandria and Isurd.
This is why i feel like Noah and Mio are just the first signs of a massive interplanar travel that is about to begin after the ending.
*stares at you*
This game does not respect your time.
Ass-long shitty cutscenes.
Really wish there was a way to fast forward in Event Theatre. Or at least chop them up into smaller cutscenes that play in sequence. No need for there to be loading screen segments in between my cutscenes
story feels a lot better when you skip anything that's not motion capture
Remember kids:
have sex with inhabitants from another universe.
It's another world created from your own when the resident god had a schizo episode so it's ok think of it like a cosmic continental drift except the cat you want to frick comes from nanomachines and you come from magic robot demigods and the concept of needing to have sex really is moot because humanity literally did go extinct and that homosexual god had to restart from scratch and come to think of it reproduction isn't a problem at all anymore
What would a date with Melia be like?
Talks about the future and not giving up.
since 3 borrows a lot of elements from x we'll get a sequel soon right?
X really means 10, why they chose to release the 10th game as the second one is beyond me.
One of the writers for 3 said he would like to make X2 next and revisit that side of the series but who knows. I think Monolith Soft have built up enough good will at this point to make an X sequel and then potentially port X to Switch afterwards if it does well like XC2's success paved the way for XC1 Definitive Edition. Takahashi said the only reason X hasn't been re-released is because of the money it would cost but if a sequel did well I think that'd clinch it.
I don't think it's a huge risk either. Set X2 on a different part of Mira in new city like New Tokyo which was cut from the original game, have a new cast and an actual story to follow to get newcomers on board like XB2 and XB3 are friendly to new players and have some X characters carry over similar to Melia and Nia in 3 so Elma, Lao and the Black Knight could show up at least to asset or antagonize the new characters.
By the time an X sequel would finish development the Switch would be already done stupid
Yeah but saying switch is easier than "whatever nintendo console exists at that time" and also they might release some kind of switch pro to keep the lifespan of the console going.
Is it possible that Noah and Mio are excellent soldiers because they have 1000 year+ worth of martial experience in their subconscious ?
Doesn't matter because they have incredible powers and talent anyway
Noah's performance as a second term is certainly unusual. The way he was fighting Garvel reminds me about N. He simply danced around him.
They probably inherited some of N and M's abilities
They're also unique in that they reincarnated from Moebius
Nah, as he told Joran, he just got lucky.
Guess I'll bag her
>even Japan is getting in on the pegging jokes
I'm positively beaming with how good the fanart has been so far
I can't believe I've already found TWO dedicated Teach/Oleg artists on twitter
Noah is fricked, in all possible meanings of that word
https://twitter.com/KlumeScribbles/status/1574734126011150336
This is so silly
How does Noah's gauntlet looks like Galea's monado ? I can't see it.
It doesn't. Ignore head canon morons til the DLC comes out
When you upgrade swordfighter, it gets additional edges on it which kinda makes it look a bit similar, especially given that it also has a triangular symbol on it.
What's her name again?
Miso Soup
Mibber
I request a modelswap of the ch 6 starting cutscene but N is M and Mio is Miyabi.
Lanz is so fricking weak I feel like whenever I put him in a DPS role he barely deals any damage.
Those muscles are just for show.
He actually has the second highest STR after Sena and the difference is negligible.
Yes
Whoa, Mio is surprisingly mediocre, aside from agility
Rex diluted the frick out of Nia's genes judging by the absolute state of her healing stat
That's because blade can't breed, rex actually reproduced with Nia's foster gormotti sister.
moron lmao.
He hasn't quite figured it out, but at least the fricker actually thought about it for himself instead of regurgitating whatever opinion he saw online. He's closer than most of you fricks to understanding the ending.
>third sword after ontos and pneuma
>called "sword of the end"
>created to destroy the world
>it's melia's
I still haven't fully recovered from laughing at Malosgays
Meanwhile Malos 2.0...
I may fricking love that webm, but Noah has absolutely jack shit to do with Malos.
Why would we he keep it if the world is about reset?
It's just a symbolic gesture. He is finally free to throw it away because he's free from being a soldier.
Riku states that the sword is always with him so i have no doubts he can still summon the thing after a reset if he really needs it.
Then why are people complaining about it?
No sane person does. Throwing it away before the reboot guarantees it doesn't end in the wrong hands as well.
Inb4 someone else got a hold of it and used it to tear open a pocket dimension to hide out the annihilation event
>Monica likely had no sex in well over a decade at this point
Jansen needs to be careful if they manage to do it before a reset
I think that Noah is thematically related to Malos, and in my opinion is infinitely better than him being directly related to him.
>thematically related
That's still wrong
>Both characters are heavily influenced and directly question the world around them
>Both characters have bonds with others that enforce their questioning
>Both ultimately come to the conclusion that the world needs to be destroyed.
>Lucky Seven's entire shtick is being a sword regarded for its sheer destructive power, and only reaches that potential when Noah accepts his power and utilizes it for its purpose.
The biggest difference is that Aionios is significantly more fricked than Alrest, and Noah has greater justification.
Try to find a character that the first three points don't apply to.
The very beginning of the game highlights that Noah thinks very differently compared to the rest of the cast, directly questioning the world before the party meets up.
Those characteristics apply the most to know, and given that he is also the de facto leader, it's not hard to see that he is at the very least thematically related.
No, he's clearly thematically related. Literally a leader of Torna 2.0 on top of wielding a literal endbringer and wanting to end the world.
It doesn't matter if he's not Malos, he's clearly fulfilling Logos functions anyway.
This is me right now.
My cat will very likely not make it through the night.
Why'd you treat your cat like Mio anon?
The last entire week has been me with her at the vet while they've been trying to figure out what was happening to her, since she suddenly stopped eating and her blood level's almost rock bottom. She's gotten to a point where she's degrading so fast none of the treatments are working and it's breaking my heart.
May your old companion rest in peace anon.
>by the end of Valdi's questline even Alexandria warmed up a bit towards him
Someone should keep an eye on this homie after a reboot. He can easily create a disaster if left to his devices because some other jealous little shitter will steal his work.
>Start rewatching Xenoblade 2's cutscenes
>Tfw it's pure, uncut, unfiltered SOVL
And I don't use that meme word lightly. I remember exactly why I got hooked by this game. I still cannot grasp how people didn't like Rex. He's not some annoying chunni brat with overhyped dreams. He's a pretty chill, go with the flow dude. Pretty damn low energy, just doin his job. He became a salvager because he thought Elysium existed, and maybe there was a trick to getting there at the bottom of the World Tree. It's a legit job, while exploring his more naive optimism. When Nia is constantly busting his balls, he fires back at her like a pro. He's a cheeky c**t I swear.
As much as I love Tora, I think him and Poppi are what made people write 2 off as 'too silly/anime'. A case could also be made for Zeke, but two comic relief characters was a big ask, even if Zeke basically dials down his goofiness once he joined the party.
>t.Rexgay
I agree though. I remember when I first played 2 i initially hated his guts. By the time I hit the World Tree I was rooting for the guy and genuinely felt bad when he was being ripped apart and crying at the dinner table.
I've softened on Rex over the years.
The only thing I don't like about him is his dumbass mickey mouse clown shoes and design.
Though it's still somewhat enjoyably goofy.
Rex crying at the dinner table made me cry more than Mio's homecoming.
People don’t like Rex because his dub voice sucks, he’s constantly involved with “win in game, lose in cutscene” shit, and has the depth of fricking Naruto
Sure
"""Sure"""
Stop. Rex has plenty of depth. He actually changes throughout his game. Does Noah? He's a bleeding heart from boot up to credits, always right, always doing good. Never makes a mistake.
>Rex has plenty of depth
Explain how Rex has plenty of depth and how he changes throughout the game
I'm literally typing my blog post now, but the thread's 404'ing. When someone makes a new one, I'll post it there.
I say Rex has more human flaws the Noah and Shulk does since he is more prone to mistakes then either one of them and his lack of experience in fighting compared to more professional fighters he goes against makes his losses stand out more compared to the other two. He has to more rely on others because of his lack of experience and strength which makes sense since he the youngest of the all the Xenoblade MCs.
3 in comparison is just lots of action and no substance (yeah there are many touching scenes there, but still) . What's was the point of that boat race to Origin again? Nobody EVER talks about it.
The level of hype if that was immediately after homecoming.
I have an important announcement. I don't care where you play Xeno. I don't care if you played it on PS1, PS2, DS, Wii, 3DS, WiiU, Switch, PC, or Steam Deck. If you played and beat a Xenogame then you are extremely based.
What if I beat 4?
Then you're going to be based and redpilled when 4 comes out on whatever fricking future system or emulator you play it on.
Anon... I think he means, 4 xeno games, not xbc4.
I mean both
>defending Xenoblade 2’s absolute garbage cutscenes
Are 2gays really at this point
So I literally just finished the game and that ending....
For the series as a whole - we're going to be able to have games in either universe moving forward? I'm ok with that.
But the ending itself...really disappointing. Felt like bait for the DLC
Now re-watch the last scene again because you missed one important detail.
The line about forgetting?
Because I felt that was just bait still?
No, anon.
Watch harder.
Then piece it all together
Literally watching this on a loop I guess
Noah hears the Kevesi Flute (important because Noah has the Agnus flute by the end of the game while Mio has the Kevesi) and when the birds fly he disappears.
Current theory is that he fricked off to Alrest to see Mio.
Not just a kevessi flute. It's a tune that was specifically his own, and it's called "Off-Seer Noah" in the OST. He gifts it to Mio, and she starts using it after a flute exchange.
Crys, for example, has a distinctly different version and during a dialogue with Noah even mentions that his tune is now different.
So in the end it's shared emotions between Noah and Mio that manifest through those tunes and allow them to sense each other again and reunite.
>Noah vanishes behind birds
Therefore Noah teleports to Mio.
How much do you think "localizers" seethed when they could not get rid of the Onigiris?
None because half decent localizers aren't 4kids tier.
explain all the heroes name changes then
Post ratings
2=1=X=3
4 is better than all of them
Another Xenoblade thread is reaching its homecoming. Time to send it off.