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I enjoyed it.
No. It's shit
I enjoyed it.
I like Mio.
Why did jannies nuke the last thread, there was nothing wrong with it.
Your threads became generals
Only the mods' pet games (Smash, Souls/Elden Ring, Undertale, etc) are allowed to have 24/7 threads
I was the OP for the thread. Jannies nuked it because I made a post in the op about reporting the shitty antiharem pasta.
REMINDER
Harem ending is just a meme based on an interpretation of Rex's body language rather than explicit confirmation.
All three kids have the hair color of their mother and Rex is stooped over all three seated girls because Takahashi wanted it to be vague and open to interpretation who Rex got with.
It's a whole different story if all three babes had the same hair color as Rex, like Noah's CONFIRMED son shared the same hair color as his dad.
Nia not once confirms she married Rex or that Rex is Mio's father.
Takahashi is a fricking pussy that wanted to please everyone and it backfired.
Oh you !
What is it with anime characters and punchable faces?
>>>/vg/
Elly?!
Shania is the best girl.
Well actually, she's not, and that was the whole point and her entire damage.
Ghondor is the actual best girl
Still don’t understand why people give a shit about this dumb c**t.
Is it savior complex?
It's like one or two people. Just ignore them.
Rank your favorite Class Limit break quests from best to worst
Taion>Mio>Lanz>Eunie>Noah>Sena
Taion > who cares
Taion>(power gap)>Mio>=Noah>Eunie>Lanz>(huge power gap)>Sena
>Sena
she had one?
Yes, it's Segiri's recruitment quest. Really weird that they gave Ghondor two hero quests though.
Sena>Mio>Eunie>Taion>Noah>Taion
Get a load of the shaniagay over here
Maybe I could have just liked the overall story and message, how about that?
And how exactly does the quest having very little to do with Sena herself elevate it to the top of your personal character ascension quest ranking?
The comment before mentioned the city being under direct threat and because in spite of having barely anything to do with Sena, the quest itself was pretty strong. Painted Shania as a more tragic character with her horrid mother, had two poignant scenes with her dad and at the remembrance stones and the boss fight was fun.
Apart from Sena's quest telling us nothing about Sena, it's kind of an interesting quest on its own to fight in the city and see it threatened directly. Though, it also makes no sense because how the frick would Shania know where the city was?
piss off shanoyah, ya dag
Shit, Lanz is last*
Wasn't bad but it was the most "eh"
>couldn't even sell 1 million copies
It's over. dead franchise. game sucked anyway. might as well end it
Do JRPGs ever sell a million copies
Tales of Arise sold 2 million.
>Do JRPGs ever sell a million copies
FF7R Sold 5 million copies in 4 months
FFXV allegedly sold 10 million copies as of this year.
>i have no source yet i must shitpost
>was the worse selling
ESL-kun can't even edit wikipedia properly.
The game was #4 on the July US NPD after two days of sales, to put it into perspective million sellers like XB2 and SMTV were at #16 and Astral Chain at #10. XB3 will easily clear one million in the first months
The body I've lost...
The comrades I've lost...
>Taion gets a e-girl
>Lanz get a e-girl
>Noah gets no e-girl
Noah confirmed worst guy in the game
Noah EXCLUSIVELY fricks women older than him
As it should be.
Imagine the blowjobs
Imagine the bitemarks
Noah is Miosexual, no matter her age.
Noah does have that crush in Colony Gamma, remember?
This is Noah's e-girl.
speaking off, which race is she? theres a bunch of gray-ish, not-quite blue like Indoline, but without any distinctive features like Gormotti or Urayan, nor brown like Leftherian/Tantalese. And definitely not blades either
some of the gray agnians had some scales irrc. So maybe urayans?
Is farming mats for X gems tedious in this game too?
Yes.
Unless you really NEED to have all X rank gems, most people will only get 1 or 2 at most, and that's by buying them with 99 gold coins rather than the mats.
Most X gems only take around 40 minutes of material farming, could definitely be worse. That said, some of the recipes (like Steel Protection X and its 30 Auxilia Exo-Armor requirement) are outright moronic and you're better off spending 99 gold coins on those. But if you don't care about minmaxing, just spend those coins on Analyze Weakness X and be done with it.
>jarpig players actually discussing their shitty boring games instead of waifuposting
kek as if
>being attracted to something a rice munching moon monkey drew
You aren’t exactly winning in life, are you, son?
I'm on ch7 of Xenoblade 2 and just want it to end. The underground temple Addam set the the sword in was so shit.
I beat Torna between ch6 and ch7, and it was so good.
Spirit Crucible Elpys is one of the shittiest things I've ever experienced in a game. I actually went and leveled up to the point where I could just walk past and not aggro any of the enemies because it was so shitty.
you're approaching kino, anon. trust me on this.
Things thankfully speed up a bit once you get to the end of that shit, I dislike 2 as a whole but did genuinely enjoy Chapter 9.
How do you manage to have trouble in Elpys, holy shit. The game outright tells you like 3 times in dedicated cutscenes that Poppi isn't affected.
And I still went with Rex anyway, at the same level as the overall area, and didn't have any problems.
Zoomers these days sure as frick wouldn't be able to handle the obligatory old-jrpgs sewers areas or dungeons.
It just frickin sucks dude. They take away 90% of the tools that make 2's battle system remotely tolerable. As someone who already didn't particularly enjoy 2's combat, it was torture.
They take away upgraded Specials only, meaning you can't unba bunga Chain Attack with orbs. You shouldn't even need to use Chain Attacks against regular encounters. Just spam your Arts and Lv.1 Specials as quickly as possible. There's nothing hard about it.
>The underground temple Addam set the the sword in was so shit.
I agree, I'm on chapter 8 and just beat Jin and Malos and I have no idea how anyone can say XC2 has a better story than 1 or 3. It's so fricking shounen it hurts.
The other two games aren't perfect storywise, but XC2's story contrivances and tonal dissonances put it way below them.
I really hope Torna isn't this shit
3's ending is literally a nothing matters reset button.
>b-but it really happened! T-They'll maybe get glimpses of what happened in their dreams on a bad night!
>only for it to be forgotten 3sec after waking up
Z is gone and the worlds are no longer locked in an endless war.
The worlds were never at war in the first place, they were working together to save each other from being annihilated. The war was just a creation for Z’s amusement.
And I'm saying XC2 is worse than that
There's many signs implying they will remember it though
It's pretty good, story is nice but the gameplay is not very exciting
>And I'm saying XC2 is worse than that
They literally made their biggest spoiler a photo of the cast from 2 because they knew 3's wasn't nearly as good
i wouldnt say thats any bigger than monado REX. Its just an easter egg/conclusion to 2
hell it didnt even spoil anything aside from Mios parentage i guess
It blew up Ganker for a week and caused Dunkey to trend on Twitter when he posted it. People obviously care about it a frickton more thsn anything 3's characters ever did.
i dont know if you are baiting at this point anon. it blew up because Rex shagged 3 girls at once and it looks fricking comical
i even wish theres at least a 2-3 yo kid on one of the mothers' laps because good God it will be less hilarious that way. Cant give people the fuel for "haha Rex impregnated Pyra/Mythra/Nia first! [other girl]gays in shamble" i guess
You're missing the point. If this singlehandedly overshadows everything that happened with your new characters, you fricked up in telling your story. L
I refuse to believe that anybody played XB2 and didn’t think that Rex wouldn’t end up with both Pyra & Mythra. You’d have to be utterly delusional to think otherwise.
The only “shocking” part was Nia also being there, and even that wasn’t incredibly shocking if you can pick up on context clues and stuff like the NG+ screen.
Honestly, I’m starting to think that the only people who were freaking out about it were secondaries and tertiaries who had no context, namely Smashgays.
It's less freaking out and more it's a funny meme. If you included a picture of Lightning from FFXIII being gangbanged and impregnated by Snow, Sazh, and Hope in the main story of another FF, I'm sure that would get shitposted to hell and back too, but it wouldn't say much about FFXIII being popular.
I got shit on for years saying it was a harem because NG+ ISN'T CANON!!1!!1!
I mean let's be real the initial plan wasn't for Nia to be included in Rex's harem.
That's why they only added that NG+ screen after months from launch.
That's why in Rex's dream sequence he was happily married with Pyra and Mythra, and only saw Nia as a desperate b***h that really wanted to frick him.
Takahashi saw the hype for Nia and decided to make her part of Rex's harem. It couldn't be clealer.
>I mean let's be real the initial plan wasn't for Nia to be included in Rex's harem.
I dunno about that. She has passives suggesting she really likes Pyra and Mythra, and they promise to revisit the confession after the game events.
nah i wasnt surprised about Nia inclusion, i just laughed my ass off at the 3 babies and its implication
wasnt even mad cus Rex a good lad, but people getting pissy about it is par to the course for >>>>>>>>>>
The photo XB3’s equivalent of JAPANESEHUMOR.webm, where shitposters can spam it out of context and everyone has an opinion on it regardless of where you post it, twitter included.
It's a harem, you're fricking moronic if you didn't see the reaction coming
Besides, that does not say anything about the quality of the series, at least not if it's good considering the few harems we see are shit wish-fulfillment and one of my favorite stories in the japanese media is _MT_.
I mean with how much the girls are pushed and marketed with XC2 the harem absolutely is wish-fulfillment. The amount of shits actually given about Rex himself are few and far between.
It probably is, a good harem is when the protagonist is the most interesting character because you can definitely see why the women involved choose him.
Rudeus from MT is a coward but interesting, Rentarou from 100 kanojo is a very nice lad, Rex is a wet socket.
The photo wasn’t their biggest spoiler, it’s just what knee-jerk reaction morons (90% of Ganker) hyper-fixated on because they deluded themselves into thinking Rex wouldn’t score despite XB2 constantly slapping you in the face with it.
Basically, it’s a good example of people’s biggest issue with XB3: “My headcanon didn’t come true”.
>Basically, it’s a good example of people’s biggest issue with XB3: “My headcanon didn’t come true”.
Also, the fact the game litteraly tales you point blank that doing theory and shit about the settings lore is pointless, which is the weakness of all nerds.
That’s not 90% of Ganker, it’s one NTRgay who got btfo and after trying to force his crack ship on everyone for 5 years.
my headcanon that didn't come true was Melia being happy and not alone
Melia suffering is a fundamental rule of all universes.
Melia is the Zoidberg of Xenoblade.
>1 post per minute
I guess the hype is dead
>a singleplayer game a month after release
What the frick did you expect
This is a natural course of things
But I just love the Agnian Queen too much
And her game too. I just went back and holy shit it feels like such an improvement. The combat, world, characters, and music are all a huge step up. 3 tries too hard to be depressing and ends up just being kinda boring
3 is the new hot shit right now, but I agree wholeheartedly, anon.
>waifugays trying to save their generals
I'm thinking about giving it another try once I finish my replay of XC1. I really disliked it when I played it and basically sped to the end (it's the XC game I've put the least amount of time into at 50 hours). Maybe it deserves another shot.
i love 2 too anon but
>combat
>character
anon pls. The only truly fun one were Zeke and Poppi's spiels
>Not liking 2 Nia
And yes, the combat is better simply by virtue of not being watered down by 1's mechanics. 3 doesn't add anything genuinely new and interesting.
1's mechanic barely matter anon toward endgame, and game has enough stuffs to do already, even encouraging you to actually do positionals on dps
>but muh early game
early game 2 sucks too so its not a factor
3 pretty much refined 2's system, down to classes that actually matter, niche gameplay setup like fmj dodgetank dps, and toward the end it doesnt devolved into spamming elemental combo with wiggle dancing without caring about what you are actually pressing
The way chain attack evolves throughout the game is much more fun too
>struggle to just do a simple 3-4 turns
>then optimize it with hero lineup
>then optimize it around the now available launch-smash setup
>and toward the end it doesnt devolved into spamming elemental combo with wiggle dancing without caring about what you are actually pressing
No, it just devolves into unzipping lucky seven and winning in 90 seconds or less. The blade combos are fun and full bursts are satisfying once you crank up enemy HP in the difficulty settings
lucky seven has the problem of aggroing tho, so you have to build around it to actually not die after the few second of invulnerability
it also open another route of gameplay both outside and inside CA aka SHINING EYE OF JUSTICE but even more hype
Elemental QTE is fun to look at but after a while it really pulls you out of the flow of the game
>you have to build to not die after losing invulnerability
Ah yes, the difficult task of having a troubadour in your party which is capable of freezing buffs.
have the actual troubadour is a demerit tho cus aside from ring of rose and glittering melody its crap, and you are better off tossing ring of rose on medic gunner for more offensive power
its better to toss glittering melody on your main tank and pray that it syncs
Playing through 2 now and it's great. Fast and snappy with zero downtime. Having combat actually be relevant to chain attacks is nice, and the chain attacks are done in a fraction of the time.
chain attack time is almost the same anon, 3 only inches up some 10-20s
you just dont notice it with the flowchart style and actually having something to press during the long animations. I unironically wish they keep the QTE during the animation at the end of each turn so you dont have to watch stuffs passively
3's suck because they hinge on RNG not hating you and refusing to let you select your hero's Order
You're doing something wrong if you absolutely must have your hero's order to do obscene damage.
Still, there's literally no downside to using the hero order since it's free. Needing to wait for rng to give you permission to use it is crap
>so you have to build around it to actually not die after the few second of invulnerability
You just turn on Ouroboros and start spamming Origin Sword
ouroboros form is objectively inferior to incursor/swordfighter based BREAK TOPPLE LAUNCH SMASH tho, its mostly to dodge toggle certain aoe wipes
Yes, but the talent art it gets when Lucky Seven is out is pretty good since its Reduce All debuff doesn't get resisted. Also it doesn't count against the timer for Lucky Seven
3 does some things I like a lot.
I love the colony quests more than the average side quest in 2, I love how the relations between colonies changes whereas the relations between nations in 2 was more static (understandably so but still)
But the ending makes all side content feel like a waste of time. Torma had this problem too but at least you were aware of that going in.
Yeah, sort of. But you don't know that going into the side quests themselves. Also, you can hope that the memories you made will carry over when the worlds separate.
I wouldn't be surprised if the story DLC this time around was a more direct continuation, using the same clear-game save file and carrying quest progress over
The game goes out of its way to show that feelings and experiences don't disappear between incarnations.
Or as Miyabi's case shows, you can just flat out remember everything as long as someone fwees hard enough
Miyabi also says that she heard Mio's melody all the time. So that tune indeed crosses space as long as you direct it to someone.
Oh, and Crys in the same quest says that every offseer melody is unique as it's shaped by the feelings of the player.
i dont think Miyabi ever died tho, shes a 9th termer and the de-e-girl-nator explicitly age people up to their last month of the 10th
she was just mind controlled and Mio's flute + L7 broke it
In the sidequest A Chance Encounter, Mio says that Miyabi was reborn but she finds it strange how she kept her memories unlike Mwamba and Hackt
Miyabi also essentially says that she's this way because she felt Mio dooting for her.
I thought that too originally, but Hackt is listed as 9th term too still, and as
said.
So I guess really Y just conveniently brought them back to the last age they were at
There is only one correct answer for any plot hole in 3
incorrect
this is the correct answer to any plothole in 3
The actual answer is that the whole game was built to have the execution scene and everything else is a bit of an afterthought.
which is a bit weird because N&M only seriously interact with the party one time right before it occurs.
Incredible how it perfectly encapsulates what's wrong
I don't understand this idea of "nothing we did mattered".
This is the 3rd game where we've had some kind of world-reset at the end yet in the previous ones we all udnerstand that our efforts still bear effect even if the world's not the same as it was before.
The whole point of the post-credits scene is to show you that even if the actual events were undone, the memories and feelings are still carried on in some way
> in some way
I wonder if the fact that you had to qualify this has anything to do with it.
Because the previous games had you creating a new world that your actions influenced. What feels off to me about 3's ending is that the world resumes from this already existing point that we know nothing about and cannot influence. Shota Noah and Eunie and Lanz are all people we don't know with experiences we don't see, but they're the ones left at the end, in a world we don't know. Instead of creating something new, we've put things back into their place, but it's not ours to begin with.
I thought the ending was going to go for an actual world-reset into something new. I don't know if that would be logically satisfying, but it'd be more emotionally satisfying.
I dunno. I like the idea that eons and eons of a fricked up stasis event, happens between one moment to the next while lil Noah is staring at the town clock (by his and everyone else's reckoning.) It basically makes it so that 3 is its entirely own thing, set apart from the rest of the series (and normal tiem flow,) and no one will ever know any of it ever existed. It's probably one of the most "hard sci-fi" a game has ever gone, if that was the intent.
In the after-credits I would have had the scene cut to black immediately after Noah says "I just zoned out for a moment." Would have been kino.
Ripping off An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge is no longer seen as cutting edge.
>Ripping off An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge
Like any of you losers actually read books.
>books
It's like 3 pages long. I've read longer posts on Ganker.
>It's like 3 pages long. I've read longer posts on Ganker.
That you know of. *taps temple*
>Noah and Mio are together again
>Lanz and Sena weren't really romantic
>So in the end it's really only Eunie and Taion getting a bittersweet deal
Why does Takahashi hate birds so much, did a bird shit on his forehead or something?
A bird shat on his car. And it's enough to go on a rampage. And I'm with him on that one. Frick birds.
Joran is his self insert.
>Stupid + prostitute OR cucked queen
>Has to rely on her dead friend's sexbot to get anything important done
Lmaoooo nice 15TP """"queen""""" you got there
Why doesn't Melia build her own sexbot?
Nia didn't build Poppi
>is the one actually keeping things afloat
>doesn't let her man frick around on her unlike the person who got put in charge
ALPHA BY NAME
2 starts bad but the late game is amazing
3 starts good but the final chapter is bad
they're opposites
Meanwhile XB1 starts amazing. has a good final chapter but the middle is bad.
I don't know why people are so down on the Mechonis. I love the Mechonis even if it is long. And the areas all look amazing.
It really just does boil down to that. It's frustrating, I really love most of 3 and I just wish it could've finished strong. They were so close.
That's how I felt. I was expecting the game to go batshit insane like every single Xeno game does in the final chapters, but Xenoblade 3 just suddenly ended without going any deeper in its plot points. It almost ruined the entire experience for me
3 ended fine. It doesnt have the scifi-tecular stuffs but it has arguably the best ending sequence of the whole series
people just got burned with their expectation about conduit, grander schemes and such when 3 started pretty explicitly as the "man vs himself" entry
I disagree. The plot runs out of steam and the best part of the game, the party interactions, are absent from the main story after you meet the Queen. I didn't need grander sci-fi (even though it would've helped Z be more interesting), but I did want some more character moments that were sorely missing.
Origin itself just feels half-baked. Compare it to the final ascent of the World Tree, there's much less going on.
its clear that Takahashi wants you to start your sidequests after ch6, even said that "theres suddenly a lot of time now, lets have some fun", even decided to sidetrack to Miyabi
i spent the last 20 hours or so running around the colonies having fun and the character moments are all there, plus Ashera ascension quest was kino, and Miyabi's was cute
Its not like the crew of 1 and 2 didnt just rush toward the end without much inter character interactions anyway, its the nature of the final stretch, and you had to rely on side H2Hs for some banters
>even decided to sidetrack to Miyabi
"Noah dude we can finally go and free the Queen"
"Yes of course we will go and help Mio"
Laughed my ass off
The dude has priorities and the NEVER change
Noah's dick has 100 TP.
As good as that stuff is, it doesn't involve the main plot and that's my biggest complaint with the ending. Even if everything else were exactly the same, if Z had no plan and there was still no zero threat, the ending could've been salvaged for me if all of the characters, while waiting for Mr. Samon to upgrade the engine, had a quiet moment to discuss how beating Z would mean splitting the worlds and never seeing each other again. Just a little melancholic conversation, talking about what they had to do, what they were going to lose from it, and reaffirming their determination. Maybe one last tender scene between Noah and Mio, who are now clearly in love, awkwardly trying to avoid confirming their feelings for one another because they know they can't be together in the end. One scene like this would have changed the tone of everything, and really would have made the emotional beats of the actual ending sequence hit with their full impact, as well as vindicating the post-credits sequence.
i know its not in the main story, and it totally should, but its discussed in the final "a key to the future" quest in the city about the city's own Homecoming. They came to term with their inevitable death in 2 years, yet still wished everyone the best, and vow to live their last years to the fullest and leave their mark upon the world. They understood there was no further future, yet still embraced it
and imo with that context it makes the ending even more tragic, with them, now free from their limited lifespan, had to come to term with their separation, but still with a deep hope of meeting each other again/acceptance of what they had to do
i really wish a couple of these quests became mandatory so people wont miss it before going into origin
That quest was great but that was about their lifespans and not their separation. It's different, because they didn't get to choose their lifespans, whereas the separation of the two worlds (which really should've been explained better by Nia) was a choice they were making. It's the decision that should be hanging over the entire end of the game, but it doesn't because nobody gets a scene where they get to talk about it.
I don't entirely get why the planets separate at the end, anyway. Like... initially, they were going to collide and do a bunch of anti-matter explosions like the annihilation events, right? And that's the fear for both, in that they're going to die if they do nothing, so they made Origin to store their souls in for safety.
But then Z freezes time at the point of collision practically, and they kill Z and stop that endless now. But the planets just peacefully drift apart, no problem? Like, wouldn't it just resume with the crash?
If there was no actual threat of the planets colliding, they could have simply not made Origin and nothing bad would have happened at all.
For some dumb reason it's only really explained in Nia's post-game quest, but the point of Origin is to recreate the two separate worlds after they annihilate. Which I agree is very unintuitive and isn't explained at all until after you already beat the game which makes the ending bewildering instead of emotional.
>but the point of Origin is to recreate the two separate worlds after they annihilate
Does Nia say that though?
That's really stupid then, because she doesn't hint at it at all in her initial explanation, when her and Melia are talking about it just basically being a big SSD for their souls.
Also really dumb because recreating two entire universes without even having the Conduit is way beyond anything they've ever done.
I completely agree. It's both dumb and convoluted. I have no idea what Monolithsoft were thinking because had that been explained beforehand, the ending would've been a million times better.
>the worlds are plus and minus, and they attract each other
>their collision will delete everything
>built Origin to store souls and data to recreates both worlds again after the crash
>collision happened
>the collective fear manifested Z cus face it, the mass definitely cant trust a random machine to save their asses and recreate the worlds. What if it all goes wrong and they stay dead? (even Nia said the same about rebooting Origin when you meet her the 1st time)
>aionios created by Z
>you slap Z, reboot Origin
>pic related
I think part of my frustration with this whole setup is that the new worlds that get created aren't new, they're somehow just the worlds before the merger. So it's like the entire ending sequence where they're running towards each other is this symbolic thing that doesn't really happen because at some point along the way it's all reduced to an echo of memory and the actual reality we're left with is shota Noah.
It's no use thinking about this kind of stuff too much, but if you want, you can say that Origin is a machine powered by the matter/anti-matter annihilation's energy.
that sequence is likely entirely symbolic/in their psyche since you definitely cant see the 2 worlds from where Aionios is, it being the center of it all
doesnt change the ending much tho imo, the separation is still as real as it get
The cast of 3's probably the best in the series for actually throwing every H2H-esque scene into the main story and voicing it.
My only issue is Sena is terrible as a character, and Noah is Cold Steel Rean-tier boring without them even trying to make up for it with interactions. Like I can remember Taion's interactions with just about everyone, or Lanz's, but I can't think of a time that Noah had a 1-on-1 conversation with anyone in the party but Mio and Lanz (almost exclusively focused on Joren). The closest he got was him+Mio teasing Taion. Dude doesn't even talk to Eunie and he grew up with her.
The final ascent of the world tree in 2 is just dangling the carrot that's been there the whole game, but when you get past Amalthus there's not much to it at all.
Malos is nowhere near a credible threat to the party. The Architect doesn't do much in his interactions with the party, neither does Elysium itself provide anything of note to the world. Just incredibly flat on tension or resolution.
>Malos is nowhere near a credible threat to the party
>The Architect doesn't do much in his interactions with the party
>neither does Elysium itself provide anything of note to the world
What the frick.
What? Like explain what I'm missing there. Rex with Pneuma and co shit on Jin+Malos already, Malos without Jin is just actively trying to commit suicide-by-Rex. There's not a fear that the party can't beat him.
You think Malos isn't a credible threat because of the story, I think he isn't a credible threat because his character design makes him look like he should be named Brick Squatthrust.
What about the part where Malos gets control of a fleet of giant robots currently blowing up the world?
Not to mention the rest of this stuff which is again, what the frick. It's like the highlights of the entire game.
The giant robots aren't a threat to the party though. Like they are right there, at the off switch, with the only resistance to them being someone they've handily beaten the shit out of multiple times before, with the party being stronger than ever and the villain having less support than ever.
I still don't think meeting with the Architect did much either. It just gives Rex an understanding of what's the deal with the backstory of the world and to cheer the Architect up, but as far as if he actually needed to interact with him, nothing was really gained from that nor was anything given to Rex that drastically developed his character at that point. Elysium also is just abandoned.
Beyond being a natural endpoint based on their initial goals, the only thing about any of the post-Amalthus section that's important is to make Malos cut it out with sending random robots killing people. Everything else would've been the same regardless.
The ending was fine, it was just everything between the beginning of Chapter 6 and that. Origin really just needed a few scenes with the characters talking to break up what is otherwise a very linear segment. I think that's what was great about 2. Everyone kind of lets their heart out about what they'll find, why things are the way they are. At that point in 3, they knew nothing about Z and only barely anything about Origin. They still don't really know where Z, Y and X come from. Things like that could have made the experience of Origin better. Hell, even the Ferronis. They are supposedly made in Origin, maybe do more with that than a throw away line.
Otherwise, you really just moving to finally see Melia, and then your just making your way towards the end. Thankfully the fight was good and I'm always a sucker for "Here's all your friends coming to help you" in an RPG.
>2 starts bad
Why do people say this?
Chapter 1 is great
Chapter 2 is okay
Chaper 3 is great
The first half of chapter 4 blows but everything Mor Ardain and onwards is okay
Then from chapter 5 onwards it's nothing but up.
The game is slow as frick until Ch 4
i wouldnt say leftheria and tantal segment "up" anon. the "all right lets get this mcguffin" "whoops we dun goof" "ALL RIGHT lets get this other mcguffin totally!" was honestly dishearting. The scene with autie was cute tho
but yea after the fabled I LOVE YOU part the game kicks into overdrive and immediately tosses you into the most annoying area of the game. Jin again saved that God forsaken part
For me I hated everything about Gormott. The color grading was bad Horrendous, actually. The first open field is loaded with creatures, which wouldn't be terrible if not for the fricking lvl tags plastered all over your view. Same goes for Torigoth with all the obnoxious head tags, and any high-pop town, really. Points of interest were unbalanced as frick, as the one and only reason you'd ever go to the ENITIRE other side of the titan's back is to see Tora's uncle in his one shack, then do fricking fetch quests for this butthole. Frick all of that shit.
Oh yeah, and the day time music might be hands down THE worst piece the music team has ever made for ANY of the games.
>"HAAA HAAAAA HAA HAAHAHAAHAAA, HAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA"
etc. Annoying as piss
>Why yes I love generic atmospheric non memorable garbabe
Being memorable by annoying everybody is not the way to go, nerd.
Your pod is that way, you've yet to receive your soul.
Because the game locks away mechanics that make the battle system not an absolute slog until far too long into the game.
What did the mechanics do to deserve that? POW! HEEYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
XC2 is way better in hindsight, when you’ve learned what makes the characters tick and what’s really going on with Alrest and the Architect. It’s also surprisingly subtle; the issue of land (titan) shortage is never explicitly addressed as a problem caused by Amalthus lobotomizing, “cleansing” blades.
A blind playthrough can definitely be disheartening. Jin literally goes full Coldsteel the Hedgehog in Chapter 1. The combat is terrible before you get Morag and Zeke. The characters are cringe in a bad way, and the voice work got better in the lategame.
XC2 really benefits from being replayed more than any of the other games.
2 is very much better than 3. I think where 3 is better are the quest and the fact you don't have to deal with the gacha. Though all 3 are good.
>XC2's characters
>"""""""""""good"""""""""""
lol
I finally went back and finished my NG+ playthrough that’s been gathering dust for over a year.
Currently working on affinity charts for the NG+ blades.
I do wish DLC creep hadn’t made most of the gacha blades pointless to use.
Poor Blade Nia, it's almost impossible to use her because the damage is so low.
There’s just no point to almost anything other than spamming Fiora’s instacharge critical arts with Dagas on support for 99% of the game.
DLC kinda ruins the combat in hindsight.
I'm so happy that I had enough TP to ignore DLC completely until new game+
That's why I don't use the DLC Blades
I use her just fine. She's the "shield" to the Aegis' sword
Game looks so beautiful on Switch in handheld mode
>Pyra and Nia get their own unique special
>Mythra gets squat
lol
>Game makes a big deal out of Pneuma and Mythra's lvl 4 specials
>They're absolute dogshit
Poor Mythra is probably the most reluctant to the harem arrangement, likely her main motivation is just fear of being left out
Mythra is SCARED of anything remotely sexual in general. Pyra and Nia would happily destroy Rex together but Mythra will need a special care.
Nia would absolutely melt the instant Rex whipped it out
Any sort of development Mythra would’ve had got taken over by Pyra. This wouldn’t be an issue if they merged at the end, but they end up in separate bodies.
I've used her because it's amazing thematically. Not a minmaxer so i liked having super heal.
Shania was right
N was right
Z was also right
>Shania
Pathetic
>N
Broken
>Z
Jobbed
the only villain that was right was meliabot
I don't get what happened with Aionios in the end. Did restored world become parallel world while Aionios still exist. Or did it cease existing completely?
The worlds were reset to immediately before the merge, with it coming soon to make a new Aionios, but without Z this time.
At least I think that's what's happening
What is he trying to say?
Mio.. Mio... MIO!!!
MIO A SHIT AND bawd!!!
>people actually have problems understanding the ending after this bit
People reading so much into this and the especially the lyrics of the song playing over the end credits feels like mental gymnastics. Because I don't think anyone really fails to understand the ending, it's just not very satisfying logically or emotionally.
>people actually read into ending lyrics in a xeno game
whooooa
I enjoy the combat in XC1 even if it's simple and broken, and I'm tired of pretending I don't.
I could enjoy combat in 1 but I never even killed supers because frick spikes and frick agility system, I ain't dealing with them.
I killed most of the supers with abusing topples and the spike resist gems. Except for the stupid dragon on Valak Mountain.
Just make some agility up and spike defense /debuff resist gems, it's really easy.
If you need extra accuracy make some night vision gems and fight them during night.
Wuen does the quest to unlock Lost Vanguard become available? I just started Chapter 6, have every other class up to Ghondor's, missed that one somehow.
It's been unlocked for a while. You can get that class in chapter 5 just by going to the war room in the City
It's some time during Chapter 5, can't remember exactly when.
Look around the City, the quest was there iirc.
>looks like a fat bastard
>is the mastermind behind most of the tech in this world
>gives you a fair but worthy challenge
>accepts defeat
>comments about how brilliant you all are
He should've been a major antagonist over J. I'm getting huge Bondrewd vibes from him.
I wish we knew more about the Moebius that were born that way like him and X. It seemed like there was more to it but then they just die.
>recently went through a bad breakup
>find myself empathizing with N a lot
On a scale from 1 to 10 how terrible of a person am I?
1
There's nothing wrong with empathizing with him
Consume.
>I NEED YOU, MIO!
>Mio
>short hair Mio at that
I sleep
There's a chance the figma will have a long hair accessory.
Definitely buying the scale.
>no squat Eunie
I sleep.
When are they selling flutes i want a flute
>there's an alternate version of XB2's ng++ screen where Nia pushes Rex away and holds hands with Pyra and Mythra
I think this little kitten misunderstood how badly she's about to get destroyed at night by all 3 of them together
that's bullshit but i believe it
It's actually true, after you finish NG+ there's two title screens with Nia. Girls doing bisexual things in a threesome/moresome is my fetish.
I've seen it posted here i highly doubt it's locked to ng++
Finish the game
>implying she doesn't love getting smothered by Aegis tiddy while taking the salvager dick
sauce?
https://exhentai.org/g/2300913/1126e56155/
wholesome
Nia is moronic, does she even know where babies come from?
Serious answer, Azurda told her
I liked it, easily has the best combat but weakest story. Then again it feels more like a nice little bow on the the trilogy than it trying to be some grand epic.
Does Ganker like Eunie?
Why?
cause she's the boss?
I was doing so much side stuff near the end I didn't even notice the main story was weaker really.
Awww chibi Eunie is precious.
The side content is such a fun ride it didn't impact me either. Even has a few really good Noah/Mio moments
Good for you, then it means you're never affected by fillers in anime or shit. I kind of envy you.
The very problem with chapter 6 and 7 is theyr're filled with fillers. Really, if you cut out the filler (Miyabi and Crys namely), it's :
- You liberate Nia. Finally! Also cool, surely I'll get to know what the frick is going on. Welp, too bad, this Origin shit out of nowhere, but not an issue, surely I'll get to know more in this chapter and the next ones
- Go find PlotConveniencium metal to upgrade the ship
- GOTO:Origin
- Liberate Melia. Surely I'll know what the frick is truly going on this time. Oh, okay, that's what that Z guy is. Meh. Also, how did you even get captured again, you stupid bird? How did you let that while shit happen?
- Z "it amuses me"
Fin.
Wouldn't have hurt to have, at the very least Nia's quest as part of the main story, so we get to know about the world separating beforehand. Which would raise concerns for our party, as they'd wonder if it's right for them to choose a future at the expense of the future of others (namely, the City folks). Not to mention the City inhabitants, at least the Conservative, that definitely should be getting into play in the main story, as surely they wouldn't just stand and agree to disappear.
There was so much to develop in those chapters, and listening to the "we want better sidequests REEEE" gays was a mistake. If you can only allocate money to (1) develop your main story or (2) make sidequests, and not both at the same time, then you should prioritize (1). Otherwise, you get what was essentially XCX.
XCX was the best though. Their sidequests were significantly better for the world, because the introduction of new alien races to NLA and the resulting clash of cultures in new quests that unlock was way more interesting than liberating colonies that remain mostly to themselves.
the colonies interact with each other a lot tho, both in pairs of rivals and scattered characters, and indeed the clash in the culture/old grudges/nopon ruining everything (again)
There is no way you couldn't have noticed something was off when you're trudging through Origin for an hour and there's like nothing happening.
I like 3 much better than 2. But 2 is still fine.
I liked 3 much better than 2.
2 was not fine for me.
>Alexandria was literally devastated when she lost to Valdi and her friends spent time calming her down
>Valdi didn't even want any of this and his mechs just went berserk during an accident
The chad Valdi wins on accident, the virgin Alexandria seethes about it for years.
Luck is a skill.
Nina can get Rudy back by bullying his innocent shota penis.
New Shania
>when Mio revives Noah after chapter 5 she says that she believes in him
Noah should get 3 random buffs on a spot
What the deal with the monsters in Origin anyway?
Well Z is more or less a manifestation of Origin+Human fear so he has control over the defense systems.
Why would it need defense system in the first place? I can't see Tora (and supposedly Shulk and the Machinas on the other side) allocating precious time with their universes on a timer to make war-ready system for... what exactly? Their worlds will both gets destroyed anyway, no one to wage war against.
No one pumps batman's tires.
its likely Z's own creation. Its not like the world isnt teeming with mechs alr, him making some homemade gunpla isnt that strange
>but why
cus building a fence after your chickens ran off isnt conductive. Prepping for all contigency is good
Maybe yes, there was no defense system, but as Z was controlling origin he just made up some monsters with duct tape
Tora probably didn't include a Ferronis factory in his original plans either but I guess Origin just does whatever Z needs it to do.
I still bet Tora is the reason why Origin has a giant laser shooting mecha Phoenix in it
What a basedpon. Should've made it sexier though.
I think Nia confirmed that Z had made alterations to the interior of Origin since taking control, which is why it needed defenses.
How do you even recreate entire worlds without golden meme rectangle powers? This is reality warping territory here
Tora already invented a weapon to surpass the Aegis. Nopon engineering is limitless.
Magic PLOTinium metal
ALL scientist from both worlds spent at least several years building that thing up. It's Tora + Shulk's prowess combined at the very least and Shulk could replicate Monado power.
What if the ferronis' are literally terraforming robots repurposed to be weapons?
>it's 13 Sentinels all over again
I never played it, is it worth a buy on Switch?
Yeah it's pretty fun. It is a visual novel though, don't expect all that much gameplay.
The story and characters are really enjoyable but the gameplay is definitely an afterthought
Absolutely. Fantastic plot and quite honestly i liked SRPG bits a lot.
Juro is so based
He's anti-N, essentially. Gets the full cup of despair but instead moves on no matter what, even if it alienates the woman he loves.
Pretty much
I think Ida would be more like N
>Kisaragi! KISARAGI! KISARAGIIIII
>he didn’t do the side quest where tora started to siphon the conduit’s power for poppi’s efficient maid service mode
Meh meh, Nopon have many skills.
Well the matter/anti-matter annihilation from two universes worth of mass would be enough energy to become a god if you could harness it.
Though, that being said, Origin is kind of pointless if you want to bring physics into the equation, because I'm pretty sure that much energy being released would be enough to boot up a new universe anyway, it all has to go somewhere, it can't just result in an oblivion of nothing.
It's probably less Tora's doing and more Shulk
Reminder that in future connected Shulk meets an interdimensional anomaly immune to all attacks, and then just modifies his Replica Monado in a few hours in order to defeat it, he's definitely more experienced in reality warping stuff
>2 has Klaus explain the long, intensive process he had to take just to repair the damage caused by the experiment to a mostly-intact earth, taking millennia even using the conduit' power
>3 expects you to believe that a tiny crew - with no supernatural tech like the conduit - was able to pull technology to recreate not one but two ENTIRE UNIVERSES from scratch with no repercussions
What the actual frick
>tiny
Two fricking worlds working together while having access to the leftover Klaus era tech, anon.
Klaus era tech is reliant on the Conduit to do any of that, this is like expecting cavemen to make a functional nuke by giving them a picture of the casing.
I guess the real answer is that Tora is fricking OP and by far the best mad scientist in any Xeno game.
And even there, Klaus era tech is advanced, but not THAT advanced.
he's probably a moron who unironically thinks tora did it by himself
I've seen so many people act like Tora is some unparalleled genius, when a lot of the work that went into building Poppi was done by his dad and grandad
I guess I wouldn't expect anything else from this board full of speedreaders.
Step 1. Build sex robot
Step 2. Invent the universe
>take the soul and body of a sanctified holy woman and integrate them into hot, cyborg bodies
>call it the solution to universal death
KOS-MOS and T-ELOS are too high IQ for me to comprehend.
You forget the part where his dad and grandad's work was stolen and he had to reverse-engineer it to build Poppi from scratch beside her Ether Furnace.
they also ignore the fact that he only worked on half of origin, and nia says as much
Other half was definitely not built by Riku, Riku ordinary nopon.
the force of 2 worlds, the geniuses behind monado REX (and a literal clone of Klaus in a sense) and artificial blades, and a literal super computer with all the data of the world (even without conduit power), for likely a good long while
still they played God, again, and it bit them in the ass since the whim of the Conduit stayed cruel
>Aionios is a dream/simulation/illusion/shitpost etc. so nothing we did matters!
Amazing how speedwatchers out themselves with this moronic take every single time.
"Riku is Riku" is not much better than "Somehow, Palpatine returned"
See
The game tells you it doesn't matter.
In case you haven't noticed, that's an edited screenshot. Look closely at the "Aionios".
The original word is Origin which isn't that much different
>Agnus has strategic geniuses, flying ferronises, automatic levnises, Alexandria alone knows the whole flow of goods and supplies in the world that is without mentioning most agnians have natural superhuman strenght.
>Keves has a couple of battle autists
how fricked would Keves be without moebius meddling?
i know they'd be good and fricked if i existed on aionios, if you know what i mean.
>Valdi dabs on alexandria by accident
they'll be fine
this is first xenoblade i played and completed. how long did x2 had to wait for the torna dlc?
XC2 came out in December 2017, and Torna DLC came out in September 2018.
Personally I'm expecting the XC3 story DLC to come out in September 2023.
About a year, just like they're projecting for this game's story DLC. It's hard to say, though. Monolith pumps games out pretty fast, even XC3 was pushed up from the expected release date.
If they had the technology to store all their souls perfectly and then recreate two entire universes in separate locations that they weren't initially in, why didn't they just make a machine that changed the trajectory of either universe to not head on collide in the first place? They had the same time constraints either way.
fricking speed readers man
E N T I R E F U C K I N G U N I V E R S E S A R E C O L L I D I N G
So they run on Type III if not Type-IV civilization tech now.
Even worse than before.
Yeah, and entire fricking universes are being recreated. If they can do that, how is that easier than just changing the course to avoid collision?
This is like the solution to two cars head on crashing is for the drivers to get flung through their windshields and land safely in a new car instead of just having one get in the other lane to avoid the crash.
shut up Black person here's your last welfare you
I mean if you’re able to perfectly recreate two universes with a machine that can somehow survive universal annihilation, couldn’t you just change the trajectory?
Honestly plot holes like this are the least of the games problems
because they yearn for each other, being, once, the one same universe before Klaus split it in twine
so its better for the inevitable to happen, then recreate the universe with the resulting energy in the way they want, and never will collide again
Waifu posting is all this game is good for.
>Worst endgame in the series
>Least replayability in the series
>Worst story
>Worst build variety
It's just not fun
They do have their old memories, you speedreading homosexuals. There just need to be certain circumstances for them to remember them. Miyabi, Cammuravi and Ethel are proof of that.
This is yet another case like "PYRA AND MYTHRA TOTALLY LOST THEIR MEMORIES" that kept being posted when XC2 launched. Except now we even have proof that their memories will come back, yet speedreaders will still go on with their heacanons
I don't understand how you still think that people's problem with the ending is that nobody remembers what happens. Unless you're speedreading everyone's comments.
ok, so what's everyone's problem then? Spell it out for me.
It's that the ending isn't satisfying, that the emotional moments don't land, that the mechanics are explained in the post-game only after it happens, and that we're left resuming from a world we have no connection with. You shouldn't have to be logically convinced that what you did mattered, that every person in existence getting latent PTSD from 1000+ years of miserable existence is a good thing, that the souls of the City denizens we like will just be somehow alright in the grand design of the universe. Because post facto rationalization isn't going to save the ending from feeling disappointing.
>that every person in existence getting latent PTSD from 1000+ years of miserable existence is a good thing
It's not a good thing. But it's an INTERESTING thing. And not everyone will only get bad memories even if you consider Noah and Mio as complete outliers.
>And not everyone will only get bad memories
They'll have memories of people they care about that they'll never be able to see again. That makes it even worse.
>they'll never be able to see again
Even Nia states that eventually the worlds will drift together again. The fact Noah and Mio managed to reconnect has far-reaching consequences.
>Even Nia states that eventually the worlds will drift together again.
No, she doesnt. She says she hopes they will walk hand in hand again one day. HOPE being a key term here
>The fact Noah and Mio managed to reconnect has far-reaching consequences.
Not really, even Z himself says he doesn't understand them. No one else has their weird power
Noah and Mio are pretty special in that they had a noteworthy love that transcended incarnations.
But the grand majority of people (even Noah/Mio included) will have memories of 1-10 year chunks of boot camp and wars, capped off with their own death in war, and then another 1-10 year chunk of boot camp, war, and their own death, for thousands of years.
Or like Ashera and Eunie that fought until a premature end in a game that was rigged from the start.
considering Miyabi, Ethel and Cammuravi only remembered their previous reincarnation, it is safe to assume that will be the case for the rest of the characters too. So Noah and gang, and all the heroes and npc will likely reawaken the memories of their last incarnation and I really don't see how that could be seen in any way not satisfactory.
>Noah and Mio didn't go further than a kiss last time
Uh oh Nia
You're about to become a granny
Ashera has PTSD physically manifesting from 1000+ years ago so your headcanon is out the window.
she may have ptsd but she won't have her full memories of all those lives. Just like how Miyabi may have some PTSD from her previous lives, but only fully remembers her last
>queen's unique tech
how far into your ass did you need to dig to pull out this headcanon?
Who else did you see using interdimensional light skype?
just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
What you think Melia and Nia built the interdimensional skype app all by themselves?
>just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
nice headcanon
answer my second question, homosexual:
>What you think Melia and Nia built the interdimensional skype app all by themselves?
No, but I doubt the people who did build it will give the tech to some random kids
Considering nobody knew about Origin, apparently yes.
a small selection of engineers do. You even see a bunch of people + Tora in Nia's cutscene
Right. You don't see random nobodies having it. It's secret tech
and computer was also secret tech
with the queen definitely retaining their memory of another world and the creation of Origin (because it all happened before Aionios), the mass production of phone to for interdimensional skype is possible
And now that Noah just did a space time jump, travel will eventually be possible too
>with the queen definitely retaining their memory of another world and the creation of Origin
Nia literally says that her memories will fade.
>the mass production of phone to for interdimensional skype is possible
see
>And now that Noah just did a space time jump, travel will eventually be possible too
Noah and Mio are stated to be weird exceptions, even Z, a literal concept, doesn't understand them. The rules don't apply to them.
her memory of AIONIOS might fade away, yes
but origin creation and Nia skyping was way before that, during their time on their og worlds
>ut origin creation and Nia skyping was way before that,
Yeah, it was. That means she won't care about helping anyone else reunite except Noah and her daughter
>That means she won't care about helping anyone else
no she fricking won't. That would be OOC. It's like you don't even know what Nia's personality is like.
Go do that one H2H with Morag and Nia again
She literally will not remember anyone else from Aionios.
Doesn't matter. She will try to help others get their memories and relationships back because that's just the kind of person she is.
I don't agree. People coming and going across dimensional lines constantly, is definitely going to cause issues. I don't think she would help facilitate that.
If Noah and Nia fweee at each other they'll regain all their memories like Miyabi was able to, and through them they could work to reunite everyone they knew.
*Mio not Nia
dumb cat names
>they could work to reunite everyone they knew.
How? You think they can just magically teleport everyone across worlds?
That only worked because of how much Miyabi meant to Mio and it being amplified by Lucky Seven.
Realistically it would be impossible to keep an engineering project the size/scale of Origin secret. The real point I'm making is that trying to apply common sense logic to fill in the gaps in the narrative doesn't work because you just as often end up with ridiculous contradictions as you do satisfying answers.
And who says Melia and Nia won't share this tech with the rest of the populace? Especially with the kids that were on Aionios once they grow up?
>inb4 headcanon
it would totally be in their character to do so. They only kept it a secret to not scare the population of the impending doom
anon...long distance relationships never work
>And who says Melia and Nia won't share this tech with the rest of the populace?
Who says they will?
and even if they did: so what? The only thing they can do is talk on skype. They can't physically meet again.
>Especiallyy with the kids that were on Aionios once they grow up?
Nia says her memories will fade, she won't even remember. And Mio already has her boy, so I doubt Nia would even care beyond that
>They can't physically meet again.
headcanon
Where's the evidence they can?
>Nia says
Nia is a 15 TP moron. Why take her world when we have shown proof that people remember their past experiences?
>Noah and Mio are stated to be weird exceptions
headcanon
>Why take her world
Because there's nothing else to go on
>headcanon
No, Z literally says it
anon personal computer was once a military tech, and now its everywhere
its not hard to develop a mass produced one down the line, esp when computer tech is already advance in both worlds (Alcamoth and Mor Ardain)
nice headcanon
Even if that were to happen, it would happen so far in the future that the characters will have become elderly, and it wouldn't even matter at that point
>So Noah and gang, and all the heroes and NPC will likely reawaken the memories of their last incarnation and I really don't see how that could be seen in any way not satisfactory.
Because aside from Noah and Mio, none of them will ever be able to see the people from the other world again.
>Because aside from Noah and Mio, none of them will ever be able to see the people from the other world again.
weird headcanon, since Nia and Melia are seen communicating on skype. There's clearly communication between the two worlds and possibly even a rift they could walk through
I haven't been calling you a speedreader for nothing
>There's clearly communication between the two worlds
For the queen's
>and possibly even a rift they could walk through
For Noah and Mio, who are stated to be an weird exception to everything
>For the queen's
>For Noah and Mio, who are stated to be an weird exception to everything
who says the rest can't communicate? Just because you only see these four doesn't mean the rest can't. Your headcanons are weak.
>who says the rest can't communicate?
Because they don't have access to the queen's unique tech
What games does Nia play on her PC?
Tora! Tora!
Now, how come there aren't secret rooms in Origin? It's Tora we're talking about.
Origin is full of secret rooms, but you need 60+TP like Tora to be able to find them.
The dressing rooms of Z’s theater is filled with maid uniforms of varying lewdness and he has no idea how they got there.
It would've been amusing to use those dresses for his Alphabet moronic underlings
Hunky monsters in sexy/maid clothes is my fetish
Tora! Tora! ruled and I'm sad 3 didn't have an equivalent minigame anywhere.
I did perfect no death, all treasures, pacifist runs of stage 1, 2, and 3, but 4 was literally impossible to do that on without a lot of luck.
Z got filtered from the sequel Tora made.
>Z spawned from the collective unconscious enraged over not being able to finish Tiger!Tiger!2
Would've been more Kino, tbhmo
>Tora! Tora!
its tiger tiger you moronic weebs
it was nice of melia to give nia a new gaming pc
>"Queen Nia, stop trying to act like you're high-borne. That's gay and I can sense it"
Melly I know we must work on the construction of origin but I'm bored. Can we play some Among Us, pretty please?
>sorry Nia, I'm busy today.
>*sets status to invisible*
>*boots up Skyrim*
She's playing Koikatsu. Rumors say the Queen found a really nice looking Shulk card...
Melia exclusively plays Sims and makes sure that her self-insert ends up with the Shulk Sim every time.
"Wait a minute, this isn't The Sims...IT'S ORIGIN'S REBOOTED WORLD PROGRAMMING"
Nia said they could only communicate once the worlds were close enough, which is presumably not the case after the ending.
The worlds would still be close for a little while at least after the ending
But then they'd drift further apart which would make traversing them less likely
Nopon Sage already open the portal between worlds in XC2
This is actually a great setup for any sort of a postgame DLC or a Warriors game
Large scale memory awakenings of super traumatic events lead to some people/animals/tirkins go berserk
What the frick is with people thinking there are universes colliding? There's no reason to believe that Alrest was in some pocket universe. It's good old earth after the nuclear apocalypse.
i dunno man
maybe the cutscene that shows two mirror universes slowly overlapping each other that appears in the game has something to do with it
You think the universe is like twenty galaxies across?
In the far flung future, that's exactly what our cosmic event horizon will be.
XC2 ending literally explains it to you
Alrest is the original earth
Bionis/Mechonis is the universe created by the conduit
Klaus dies -> conduit dissapears-> universes begin to merge again
>XC2 not nominated best soundtrack of 2017/2018
>This will
Nah, the normalgay stigma against XB2 is why Xenoblade has no presence at TGAs. Even XBDE only got put as a vote-in option for the Player’s Choice and didn’t receive any real nominations, and I doubt XB3 will be any different.
TGA is a joke. Just a huge jorno circlejerk, why anyone gives a shit is beyond me.
>NEO TWEWY not even nominated for the soundtrack
lmao, what a piece of paid shit advertisement it is
good thing this game's soundtrack has so many XC2 remixes
It has way more XC1 remixes though. XC2 got really shafted, if anything. What area music remix does it have compared to XC1 that got Great Sword base music, Elaice Highway and I feel like I'm forgetting one.
Ironically, OST would've been probably better with some XC2 area remixes
>"Muh why Takahashi said that 3 is the end of a trilogy ? It doesn't have muh conduit or muh Alvis or muh lore ?"
Meanwhile, the event of the game is a direct consequence of the experiment.
>Far flung future
Consodering black fog appeared in FC, it seem like the process started a little bit after Klaus and Zanza died.
>"Muh why Takahashi said that 3 is the end of a trilogy ? It doesn't have muh conduit or muh Alvis or muh lore ?"
>Meanwhile, the event of the game is a direct consequence of the experiment.
Yes? Your quote and your text don't align with each other. Anybody knew from the very first trailer and its cover that XC3 was a direct consequence of the experiment. You don't need "muh conduit or muh Alvis or muh lore" to that end. Now the question is, does it really end the trilogy? We resume the game 0.1 second after its opening sequence.
>Consodering black fog appeared in FC, it seem like the process started a little bit after Klaus and Zanza died.
Black Fog acts nothing like what we've seen in 3 though. Corruption of monsters while boosting abilities while also making monsters control others are completely different from what is simply annihilation fog.
>single universe
>doin' fine
>splits into to
>each is separately din' fine
>reunite
>suddenly cancel each other out
hmmm
its less "split" but "another newly created world crashing the party". Klaus created a whole new pocket dimension/universe and took nothing from the og universe. The merge back is, likely, Klaus's own fault since hes the attraction point for being chopped in half
granted Shulk did remake Zanza's world again tho
The people denying that Rex fricked every one of his blades are sub 30 TP. Simple as.
Are noppon chest rewards randomized? Im running low on silver coins and all im getting are the shitty gemstone chests
2 and its consequences has been a disaster for the franchise as a whole.
These morons at Monolith really had to mix the best story and world with the worst characters and character design.
Now the games won't ever sell as much as long as it doesn't have an incredible story and a few coomer designs to catch the attention of normalhomosexuals on twitter.
Good luck Takahackshit
Is Origin a Deus Machina?
More like a Boltzmann Brain.
I feel like Z controlling the Origin is some kind of conglomeration of ideas between Gears and Saga. We have that God-machine, but also a “collective unconscious idea” personified.
So, in the opening cutscene. Noah seemed pretty shocked to see an entire alt universe rushing at him as did everyone else in Nia's explination. So was origin built in secret or something? Was the whole thing under wraps?
They were literally celebrating on the night of a collapse. Yeah, that was kept under wraps.
>Queen Melia urgent news, in a short time our universe shall collide with another!
>We must find a way to prevent this! Tell me, when will this collision happen?
>On your birthday, your majesty.
>has some very vague memories of a boy who just saved both universes
>never manage to find him until Nia contacts you through a dimensional skype about a weird boy she can't separate from her daughter
>he apparently fricked off on a night of your birthday
>[screams internally]
If you think about it, Aionios itself is the worst birthday party ever. And of course it had to be Melia's, kek.
>Melia at Fiora's birthday party: boy I hope we have as much fun on my birthday tomorrow!
>Melia's birthday the next day: earth explodes
I don't think you could hide something this big.
I dont know, no one saw it coming besides the queens. If everyone knew and understood what was happening i am sure the plot of xc3 wouldnt have happened.
It would happen anyway, no one could feel okay knowing you entire UNIVERSE is going to collapse soon.
even if people know i dont think everyone would be totally on board with "Yeah let us rely on a hastily built machine, die and be reborn!". People would still panic and likely even sabotage the origin project
Sounds like a good way to get your head bashed in by Rex and then he has a beer with you
The alternative is "just die lol", so if they aren't on board with origin they can just kill themselves.
humans arent exactly rational under mortal threats so yea. There would be quite the craze
>some kill themselves
>some decided to embrace all kind of degen and hedonism
>some decided to say frick it and go on a rampage
>some even decided that Origin is a fricking hoax by the Big Bird Cat government to harvest people's souls and become terrorists
...its actually quite the fun premise ngl
iirc yes, theres a line about "preventing mass panic"
which was a fatal mistake because the crash and its destructive sight definitely spooked the shit out of everyone and created Z
I just math the whole thing and it took Noah 40 days and 40 nights to reach origin and change the world
I'm only halfway through Chapter 2, but this game might already be better than DE. The characters and writing aren't quite as smart, but it's the best looking Switch game I've seen, the gameplay is satisfying, there are already overt callbacks to XG, there's a lot of non-battle mechanics without feeling overwhelming, and the map and character design is the best of the 3. Only thing it really fails so far is none of the OST yet has matched 1 or 2.
Was the Origin explanation cutscene from Nia done by the same concept artists at Monolith Soft that did Baten Kaitos Origins' cutscenes?
They look real similar, really came out of nowhere in XB3 given it's the only time they went full concept art.
Is Mio the in universe equivalent of a hag? She's literally on the verge of dying from old age.
Yes, but all true Xenoblade protagonists should be hag lovers.
t. not Melia
>want to play 3
>never finished 2 cause I got burnt out and haven't touched it since for years
You don't really need to, 3's story is mostly standalone.
>Joran has 100 lives worth of memories
>But only 30 years worth of memories
>Dad ditches you in a forest.
>Man up and build a whole healthy city with dear friends.
>Dad comes back a mobidick and destroys everything.
>1000 years later.
>Things are rebuilt by your successors
>notbad.jpg
>Clone of your dad saves the world by destroying it.
>Blades likely became just humans with ether features after the end of Klaus and his experiment
>a lot of Drivers had a collection of female Blades, not just Rex, since it's expected of any driver to switch Blades a lot
>that one little boy with a female Blade acting as his tutor
The worlds weren't going to naturally collide. But after Melia attempted to seduce every man on the planet and failed she thought that another universe was her only chance for finding love and used magic to force them together
>be Rex
>work your ass off with your ever growing mercenary army
>come back from a hard day at work
>10 years old Mio presents you her future husband and asks to give him a place to stay
>something about him reminds you about Jin
He likes his attitude, and he's going to show him a thing or three.
>you need to find two more wives before you have my blessing laddie.
>So, if something ever happened to Mio, you wouldn't do something weird with her corpse and kill a bunch of people, would you?
>i already did that
>Wot?
>wake up from your small bed
>see the world is going to end
i bet it doesn't even faze her anymore
That is why she is Queen.
A lifetime of suffering has made her unflappable.
As long as she doesn't decide to end it all herself.
>Melia's weapon that she has had since FC is named "World Ender"
what did she mean by this
Finger on the eject button.
How could she even see that filmed from lightyears away
its a simulation
Melia watched the actual merge from her balcony right on her birthday. Good firework indeed
>"Oh my. These SPHHONGY SPHHUDS. So delectable and melt in my mouth, even when RAW! Oh you SPHHHHONGY SPHHHHONGY SPHHUDS. I must tell the world, nay, the Universe! SPHHHHHHHHHHHHHHOOOONNNGGY SPHHHHUDSSS"
>"Pardon me, but you you have SPHHHONGY SPHHUDS growing in YOUR Colony? No? Well then I shall duel you RIGHT HEA'. You must bow to the SPHHUDZIES, they're so... DIVIINE..."
>"That SMELL... time to eat SPHHONGY SPHHUDS, no?"
This guy
It actually made me feel good seeing Zeon be allowed to find a real passion in his short life. People might laugh because it's all about spuds, but you have to remember he lead a by-the-numbers, joyless, rigid existence before this, and it's possible that in a better world he would be (or was?) a farmer of some kind, happily tending his spuds.
You see, Melia’s problem is that she’s too focused on the short-term game with Shulk. What she SHOULD’VE done is work the long-term game of slowly grooming Shulk’s son or grandson by using her status as Auntie Melia.
It worked for Pandoria, after all.
Shulk's probably too autistic to sire children.
oh please, Crys is 100% his son
Oh good it wasn't just me
After the whole clone pod thing got shown in the intro I and the homecoming cutscene not that long after that, I thought Crys was gonna be a Shulk clone
Every time Crys is on-screen, his face screamed "he's related to Shulk" to me.
Imagine thinking that Shulk wasn't popping out kids left and right with Fiora.
The most terrifying thought about Noah being present in Alrest is a chance that he may become Corvin's driver
>At ABSOLUTE MINUMUM 300 days (definitely more) worth of resources and man hours poured into making the giant universe egg thing with no returns
The economy of both worlds is mega fricked lmao
But think of all the jobs that thing must've created.
Funny thing you mention economy when Nia specifically has passives related to monetary gain.
She is not a complete airhead when it comes to those questions.
Ugly robots got human dick before Melia did
>ugly robots
these robots mog Melia by a mile
I wish she had more to do than scream "BROTHER!" in the game, because she is hot af.
Shut up Dunban.
I feel bad for the Machina race, because its' clear by the time of XBC3, they all "Hom-ized" their appearance, because Homs are filthy culture destroyers like white people.
>the city was formed from ouroboros, who were also from agnus and keves
>modern city has 0 cat eared, machina looking or winged people. Everyone looks as human as you can get
brehs...maybe interracial sex isn't that good of an idea.
to be fair the founder only have 2 non human, and the catgirl is very likely 1/8 or even more diluted. Im surprised she kept her ears when the modern Doyle (Garett and Joulietta) lost them completely
HOMS'd
I really wonder how race-mixing works. Is the rule Homs + Gormotti = Homs? Is it determined by the father and not the mother for some reason? What if a High Entia fricks a Machina? Do hybrids exist or is it always one or the other?
judging by the cityfolk, everyone becomes homs/humans in the end
Lame. Noah's son should've had cat ears.
noah's sperm contains all 46 of his chromosomes
he forced mio to birth his clone
Are there even any male cat ears in the game?
Yes, and they are big cats.
per 1's rule theres dilutions of the gene
per 2's rule kids are either of the parents' race. Theres a couple interacial couples here and there
per Rex harem and Noah's kids rule the kids follows "sons look like pa and daughters look like ma". Aka the 2 babies of Pymythra are likely girls too
Wonder what the dlc hero's story will be about, because they look like a true Machina from their silhouette.
Hopefully it’s a defender. The defenders badly need an OP class, and the Xenoblade DLC is always game breaking.
>The mentor boasted a robust physique, wielding two great swords at once with utmost ease, and facing down Moebius despite the loss of one eye
Cant stop kneeling bros, even the statue has to mention his gigachad adult body. Only one year to see him again leading and dispatching Black personbius
frick you
>Fusion first
What exactly does this mean?
Makes your AI wait for cooldowns to use Fusion Arts so they charge up your interlink level fast
>fetch
Honestly I played with it mostly off, but feel like the AI must be prioritizing Fusion Arts anyway since the other 2 pairs usually get to L3 before the one with the character I control does
The AI will prioritize saving an art until the ability to turn it into a fusion art is available.
It means that your party members will focus on doing fusion arts to jump into Ouroboros form ASAP
the AI will actively try to wait for fusion arts if the cd is close
i would say its not that needed, you'd prefer the AI to spam their shits, esp healer. They get to lvl3 interlink easily enough alr
>the city never captured kevesi/aginian slaves to use them exclusively for prostitution and breeding
That's what the pods are for.
>no Nopon slave trade and drugs dealer quest
What a bummer
Nopon NPCs are all scummy as frick this time except for Samon
>Can't skip travel here right now
Can I play the game, please? It's chapter three already
I remember when 2 was new, everyone was shitting on it saying how 1 and X were better. Now the cycle repeats where 3 is shit and 2 was better. There's barely any real discussion on Ganker anymore, you all just resign to the flow.
Welcome to the eternal now.
No one’s really shitting on 3? Most people like all the games.
It's why I've been hiding all 2gay posts since 3 came out. Anything they say is meaningless typical contrarian nerd bullshit.
why were all Machina women in XC3 such disappointments?
They were beautiful and exotic before Homs reduced their culture with their Western Homs ways.
If both XB2 and Torna show that everyone on Alrest has cloud sea nanomachines in their cybernetic DNA, how did Mio get pregnant with Noah if he would be completely organic
The nanomachines just recycled the matter of the earth, anon.
We see how their DNA looks in the final chapter and beginning of torna, it's nanobots with core crystals inside, even Klaus mentions that the cloud sea bonded with the crystals.
This isn't true technically, the entire universe is made of ether, but this has to be true for the XB2 world too because the thing exists there.
I think the answe simply is that Takahashi doesn't care anymore and he wanted Xenoblade to be over
xc1 homs and entias are technically made of ether, with homs having a much lower concentration and distribution
so yea both worlds fricking would produce some interesting stuffs indeed
Homs managed to breed with the original high entia, that looked like these fricking things
>looks like Origin Unfurled
neat
Should I play 2 before I try 3?
sure
why does this question seem to come up so much.
Just play the games in release order
Especially when literally all 3 games are on the fricking Switch.
We’re not even in 2020 mode where finding a physical copy of XC2 required getting lucky on eBay or ritualistic sacrifice.
I’d say yes but it barely affected my enjoyment of the game except for one reveal after Chapter 2.
What's your favorite massively overused voice clip in Xenoblade? I'm partial to ALLEY-OOP
Sena's pain
WOAH, DUDE!
AYY HE DEFLECTED IT!
CUM ON, WHO ELSE?
Bonus for X:
IT’S TIME!
HERE I COME, READY OR GORMOTTI
GOOD THING I'M HERE?
NO?
ANYONE??
AAAAAAAHHHHH
"wE'rE sLiDiNg dOwN!!!11!1!!"
Best boy.
Would you let this cat lick your dick?
MIO!
Mio! Mio! Mio!!!
I have gotten my dick licked by cats, so yeah.
Melia's flashbacks are wrong and has a mouse cursor.
Why does Takahashi hate Melia this much?
He is allergic to birds