Yakuza

So these three bozos are just lieutenants?
All that big talk and bravado but they're very low rank?

I was beating up Family captains as mini-bosses by Yakuza 3.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they were trying to move on up in the world but kazama cucked them from beyond the joint

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've listened to kuze theme like 1000 times in the gym

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its fucking great. Kuze was badass.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be Yakuza lieutenant
    >get jailed by a vigilante for infinite prison time

    >jailed for murder
    >out in 10 years

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They probably already served jail time prior boosting it. RGGO also has a story or Kuze getting out.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Moose

        >RGGO also has a story or Kuze getting out.
        Only because Arakawa pulled a bunch of strings.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I was beating up Family captains as mini-bosses by Yakuza 3

    yes and 0 is a prequel you dolt

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To be fair, one guy had a realization later in life how he just wanted to stay near to his son and protect him from the shadows instead of selfishly pursue PROMOTIONS!

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You kind of missed the point that the Tojo Clan was barely functioning as an organization by the time Yakuza 3 rolls around.
    A guy like Kanda wasn't even a family Lieutenant a mere game prior, but became a patriarch just by not being caught up in the events of Yakuza 1 and 2.

    Meanwhile in Yakuza 0 was the Tojo Clan at It's peak, and specifically, the Dojima Family at It's peak, easily being larger than any of the other families in the Tojo Clan.
    So being Lieutenants in the Dojima Family in 1988 almost definitely meant more than being a Patriarch of some shitty glorified crew in 2009.

    I mean, the Kazama Family in 1988 was merely a subsidiary of the Dojima Family, in the intervening years between 1988 and 2009, it barely got any stronger, and yet is its own independent family headed by Kashiwagi, and is supposed to be top dog before Kashiwagi gets spliffed.
    That says more about the poor shape the Tojo Clan is in 2009 than anything else.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Moose

      Kashiwagi was also considered a completely garbage leader and no one respected him.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Which really just drives the point home even further how terrible the Tojo Clan was in Yakuza 3 that this is the goober who was in charge of the whole thing for the most part.

        I have a question about something between Yakuza 1 and 2

        In 1 it showed Kiryu as the child in the raid but then in 2 he was the one that kickstarted it. Was this a retcon or did I just misremember? It was a few months between playing Y1 and Y2

        >In 1 it showed Kiryu as the child in the raid but then in 2 he was the one that kickstarted it
        Yakuza 1 doesn't show the raid AFAIK. You're misremembering.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah the Tojo is running on fumes by the time of Yakuza 2 and by LaD they become glorified mall cops or something. Nishiki's plots took down the entire legacy of the Tojo and the last competent leader jumped off a roof in Yakuza 3. Any of the three lieutenants from 0 would have been head of the clan in the Yakuza 2 era onwards
      Strong men create good times and all that

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are the yakuza still around or are they just like small hooligans.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      like the mafia, they've moved over to white collar crimes and are miniscule compared to their heyday

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what happened

        • 4 weeks ago
          Moose

          In reality? Tons and tons of laws that work against them in addition to way more policing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's weird. I thought yakuza could control the government and businesses like in many other countries.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you dont know how organized crime works in other countries either do you

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You might be surprised to find out that Yakuza peaked in their political power in the 60's in Japan. That doesn't mean their wealth peaked then, but they had less overt pull as time went on.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              silly anon. Only israelites can do that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't hear yakuza trying to go into politics, must be a japanese thing, for example in russia most of the governors are ex bandits from the 90s, while in top government it's ex-FSS guys

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I have a question about something between Yakuza 1 and 2

    In 1 it showed Kiryu as the child in the raid but then in 2 he was the one that kickstarted it. Was this a retcon or did I just misremember? It was a few months between playing Y1 and Y2

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      they only showed that in the game with secret Koreans

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm only at chapter 11 but Judgement's plot actually kinda sucked. Well, it's pretty cool until they got to the point where they have to chase after the big bads hidden in their respective hideout. the writer just can't write scenarios that are actually plausible.
    I mean, as dumb as yakuza games are, there was never a point where kiryu can just knock out a bunch of security agent in a government backed mega facility AND hid inside from night until sunrise without anyone chasing after him.
    The lowest point is where yagami tried to find hamura by provoking every matsugane family establishments... and then surprised when the entire family jumped on him at full power. Guy doesnt have a plan whatsoever, it just doesnt make sense when you consider how careful he is at the start of the game and this took place at the point where he's at his peak mental game.
    It's still fun if you see it as "kimutaku's bizzare adventure" kinda thing, but the western fanbase really hyped this one as a masterpiece. There are sillier yakuza games with more outlandish plot, but this one broke my suspend of disbelief the hardest.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the western fanbase really hyped this one as a masterpiece
      >beloved Japanese game series
      >gets release that's not immediately released in West
      >people start hyping it up as a fantastic addition to the series
      >eventually reaches mythical status
      >game finally gets a release in the west
      >incredibly medicore/10
      A tale as old as time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's not mediocre, it's awful. The combat is much better than DE yakuza games, but for the most part still balanced like yakuza 6 because how ex boost/heat mode works.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lost Judgment has it best since you can Triple Stance Cancel

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    EEEEEYIKES THESE BOZOS ARE JUST LIEUTENANTS?

    WHAT A DAME DISASTER ON DOJIMAS PART
    ITS BAKA MI TIME FOR ME TO PUNCH THE CR*P OUTTA THEM UNTIL THEY BAKA MI DIE!!!!!

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were the top enforcers of the Dojima Family. The Dojima Family were basically the top dogs of the Tojo during Y0.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what order should i play the yakuza games in?
    ive always thought release order was better than chronological in every other medium, but kiwami came out after 0

    • 4 weeks ago
      Moose

      Release order if you want to have smooth transitions between games and see all writing, mechanics, and gameplay advance with each game. You start with a more unpolished game in 1 but it's still fine, and they get more involved as you go forward.
      Modern order (0, K1, K2, Remastered Collection, 6, Judgment, 7, Lost Judgment, Gaiden, 8) if you want to start with a strong game but jump all over the place in mechanics, writing, engines, gameplay, and more. You will get a different view of certain characters (For good and bad) but will also be given the wrong expectations for the series like with styles (Primarily only in spinoffs), Majima (He only acts like that in flashbacks during 4 and it kind of spoils stuff from 4 regarding him), or substories (Took them years to get to that point and typically every game has more filler than 0 does).

      0 is also an anniversary game with a bunch of references to previous games, most notably 1, 2, 5, and Ishin.
      >but kiwami came out after 0
      K1 is not 1, it's a sequel to 0 wrapped up in a remake of 1. It's not intended to be played like 1 is as an intro game, it's intended to be played as a sequel to 0.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What about 0 -> 1 (ps2) -> 2 (ps2)?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Moose

          I mean, you can, but K1 adds a bunch of new cutscenes to justify some massive character shifts for a major character in 0 who was a literal who who had like 5 total cutscenes in 1, and K2 has a thing in Majima Saga to outright write out a character otherwise 5 makes no sense.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        ive only played half of 0 because it was on sale and i didnt really like it

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who are those mexicans?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Gaiden is out in 3 days
    WTF

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The point of the whole game is that the Dojima Clan is disproportionally powerful and needs to be broken up.

    Each one of those guys would be a Clan Captain ordinarily but they got comfortable.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking love the Yakuza series, lads.

    Started with 0, but played 1 Undub and 2 on PS2 emu after that.

    They all have their problems but the atmosphere is just A+

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Gaiden is out in 3 days why is nobody talking about it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Probably people avoiding threads in case of spoilers.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it looks like shit?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm stoked!!!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there were a few threads over the weekend but the general consensus is the franchise died with 6

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        agree

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