>Can I play this without prior knowledge?
unfortunately no you can't. you need to play the original yakuza PS2 and ps3 games including the remakes on ps4 and the ps4 games including the spinoffs. also you need to play the jp only games with a guide including ishin and the psp games. you can skip 7 as that is pure shit and not a yakuza game.
dude Im fricking with you you can play ishin without playing any other yakuza game just don't expect ghost of tsushima, some stuff will go over your head but not so much that you will be lost.
Alright. But just to clarify, the setting is a Japanese samurai world right? I play as a samurai? I know you guys said it plays different but so long as it has samurai aesthetics, I should be happy
Yeah. It's a samurai story with a bunch of RnG characters assuming the roles of named samurai from the past. You don't need to play the other games unless you want the added affect of recognizing x RnG character playing the role of x samurai or other RnG references in the side content.
It's basically a samurai era action drama where the characters are people from all over the Like a Dragon series. For example >Sakamoto Ryoma
is Kiryu >Okita Soji
is Majima >Katsura Kogoro
is Shun Akiyama
It plays like Yakuza 5, so it isn't like the 6th one or Kiwami 2 as it has the old engine and combat
Newbie Yakuza-gay here.
Ishin is a spinoff game of the Yakuza franchise, and it seems to closely follow the formula of the pre-Like A Dragon games, as in real-time beat'em up in a small but dense "open world" city setting.
It'll obviously be jampacked with references, with all the characters being like ancestor doppelgangers of the main series and all, but I doubt that'll matter much.
If you want to dip your toes into the experience and have a good time, you should try Yakuza 0.
It's the prequel game to the whole main franchise, it's easily the most polished of them all, and the gameplay mirrors IShin's very close, with the 3-4 battle styles you can swap between and all.
Also, just to make it clear: don't expect a short, linear game about nonstop action. The countless side stories filled with character interaction and minigames are like the bread and butter of the franchise.
>but I doubt that'll matter much.
It kinda does, kinda doesn't. OG Ishin plays on your expectations of the characters and typically rolls with it, sometimes doesn't, and expects you to like guys like Saigo and Katsura as soon as you meet them because it's Ryuji and Akiyama rather than the story making you warm up to them. It even uses Shishido Baiken in Kenzan and Okita in Ishin to trip you up a couple times because you know how Majima is but they pull a "Will he? Won't he?" deal with him constantly.
This is why the changes in Kiwami are kind of an issue for the main story if you know how those characters act. If you don't it doesn't matter.
>Ishin is a spinoff game of the Yakuza franchise, and it seems to closely follow the formula of the pre-Like A Dragon games
Then why call it Like a Dragon ishin and not Yakuza ishin?
because the Japanese name of the games is "Ryu Ga Gotoku" which means "Like a Dragon" in Japanese, when the games were first brought over to the west on the PS2, they thought "Like a Dragon" was a weird name for english audiences and just called it "Yakuza" instead
it's another case of western marketing teams being idiots who change things for reasons they invent in their heads, like pic related >what's this artsy shit that looks unique? nah frick that, make a shitty 3D render of the main character in an action pose and shove that on the front of the box
Because the whole Yakuza / LaA thing is a localization mess SEGA's now trying to solve.
In case you didn't know, the LaD name is how the main series is know in the Japan (Ryou Ga Gotoku). You can't just go yelling around "OMG YAKUZAH!!" in Nippon, but some mystic name about dragons and shit apparently wouldn't have rolled in the States, so it was renamed into closest thing to a Japanese Mafia they could come up with.
With LaD7, the Western publishers finally decided to test the waters with the closer-2-OG name, simply because the gameplay was so vastly different.
Also, there were no Yakuza in 1800s Japan.
>You can't just go yelling around "OMG YAKUZAH!!" in Nippon
why
1 year ago
Anonymous
Risk of getting mixed in the actual Yakuza biz, and the whole yakuza subculture is publicly frowned on.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you watch too much anime lmao
1 year ago
Anonymous
Incorrect. I've actually been to Japan. The locals are actually visibly shocked if you tell'em how the games are known in the West.
Ever noticed how you never play as a real deal Yakuza thug in the games? Kiryu's constantly running off / resigning / etc, and the "lol no1 died!" meme is already a well known. That's kinda the reason.
he's joking, this spin-off game has nothing to do with the story from the other games, it's just re-using the characters from the games as actors for a re-telling of a real-life story from a historical time period
this is one of a few Yakuza/Like a Dragon games where you can play them without playing any other games in the series and NOT be lost on the story, the others being 0 (because it's a prequel), 1 (because it's the first game to be released), and Kenzan (which is another spin-off like Ishin, except this covers Miyamoto Musashi in the Sengoku period instead)
yeah after reading Vagabond I got really interested in Miyamoto Musashi's story, and when I saw the Ishin announcement I actually got confused and got really excited because I thought they were remaking Kenzan
I really hope they can re-use Ishin assets and do Kenzan next, I've been wanting to play that for a while
They were talking about doing Kenzan Kiwami around two years back in some interviews but they went with remaking Ishin for some insanely stupid reason instead of porting it as a remaster.
They also might not want to deal with the story themes of Kenzan when it comes to localization since it could cause some controversy if people in the west get thrown into a tizzy since the game doesn't make things perfectly clear when going into it what's going on. People made a point that Demon Slayer has the same themes and came out in the west without a peep but who knows what Sega is thinking.
>Can I play this game that features all these characters from 6 different Yakuza games, and is basically a cross-over fanservice for the Yakuza fanbase?
>Can I play this game that features all these characters from 6 different Yakuza games, and is basically a cross-over fanservice for the Yakuza fanbase?
comon anon, u can figure out this yourself
I didn't know this. Which are the 6 Yakuza games I need to play to understand the characters that show up in Ishin?
>Which are the 6 Yakuza games I need to play to understand the characters
Yakuza 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Not sure if the remake features characters from Yakuza 6, so I wrote 6 Yakuza games instead of 7
Chances are that Moose shows up any minute and write you a blogpost about everything
Ishin Kiwami can be taken at face value and it would arguably be better because of the changes in Kiwami but like half the game is going to be "Remember these guys from the mainline games? Here's them as different characters in the past." Most of the Battle Dungeon cards are Memberberries, the new substories they added in Kiwami are strictly Memberberries for people who played 0, etc.
This isn't similar at all to GoT. GoT is samurai Assassin's Creed, this is a beat 'em up in a small hub world.
I will be pre purchasing this game on Steam to play it 3 days early. And there’s nothing you can do about it. All you homosexuals make 69 thousand awful gaming decisions a year, this one is the one I will make.
Ishin Kiwami can be taken at face value and it would arguably be better because of the changes in Kiwami but like half the game is going to be "Remember these guys from the mainline games? Here's them as different characters in the past." Most of the Battle Dungeon cards are Memberberries, the new substories they added in Kiwami are strictly Memberberries for people who played 0, etc.
This isn't similar at all to GoT. GoT is samurai Assassin's Creed, this is a beat 'em up in a small hub world.
I'm sorrry, what is a Kiwami? And I understand the gameplay of Ishin is different but I like the setting and lore of GoT so it's still good if I care about that right?
>Which are the 6 Yakuza games I need to play to understand the characters
Yakuza 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Not sure if the remake features characters from Yakuza 6, so I wrote 6 Yakuza games instead of 7
Chances are that Moose shows up any minute and write you a blogpost about everything
Thank you, okay, so I should definitely play the mainline series first, ok. Is there any other spin-offs I should be aware of that are important? And why did you know The tripguy would appear? Is he famous? Is he a mod?
>why did you know The tripguy would appear? Is he famous? Is he a mod?
I'm halfway convinced Moose is an advanced AI that filters v for yakuza threads tbh senpai
Like a Dragon Ishin is Ishin Kiwami in Japan. It's a remake of Like a Dragon Ishin which was Japanese only up until now and is changing a lot of stuff from the original game. >but I like the setting and lore of GoT so it's still good if I care about that right?
I mean kind of? It sort of expects you to know the history of the time period and only somewhat explains what's going on enough to follow the main story but has two separate chapters where you're supposed to know a bit of Japanese history to make any sense of what's going on rather than taking it at face value. It focuses more on the characters doing stuff for its own story than the history.
The side quests deal more on some of the more historical things like how the news spread, how people lived in poverty, how mail was delivered, how people got around, how foreigners were treated, etc.
If you just want a samurai game go nuts, just expect a lot of the side content to be aimed towards fans rather than someone jumping in blind.
>Yakuza Ishin out in February
Can I play this without prior knowledge? If I enjoy it, what should I get after Ishin?
The game does expect you to be familiar with most of the history around that time, since the plot is playing around the historical facts to create its own conspiracies and plot twists.
Like it basically plays up a lot of fake and secret identities
1 year ago
Moose
You only really need to know two specific things which I listed
You need to know how Ryoma died in real life and read up on Saigo and Kido Takayoshi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Great_Nobles_of_the_Restoration
The following is only if you want more context on a substory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ships
Everything else is explained to you in-game, and even the things I listed aren't necessary but they will explain some events in some chapters that you are expected to already understand.
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The game itself has Haruka selling herself to a brothel so she can get money to pay Musashi to kill himself. The game doesn't make it clear she's not actually having sex with clients but is instead a waitress, it's just assumed you know how the distinction worked back in the day. It also starts the game with some guys enslaving some kids and smacking them.
Again, not a deal breaker to get a game released but since Sega is so worried about controversies to the point they cut Michiru out and are even censoring Ishin Kiwami a bit it's something to think about.
. The game explains everything else, and it really hammers home the fact that the collaborators are dealing with foreigners to get weaponry into the country. Even then I went into the game only knowing the general idea of how Ryoma died and came out of it fine. The Saigo and Katsura stuff makes no sense without context and is just them pissed off at each other until Ryoma takes them out drinking but you are kind of told stuff about Saigo as to what's going on with him so it's not too big a deal.
Kenzan's the one that needs no real historical knowledge to understand the main story of. It's very straightfoward and all you miss is some nods like fighting Kojiro on the beach with an oar.
I think this style of remake would be preferable to the usual Kiwami remakes. >basically gives the game a huge facelift >use the budget to touch up the already existing gameplay and other content >works for marketing the game to new players because it looks shiny and polished (normies are scared of older games)
Ishin Kiwami isn't doing everything perfectly, but I think it's a good middle-ground.
I'm fine with them doing it like this as long as they stop making unnecessary changes. Added content like the new substories is good and the quality of life changes for some menus is appreciated. The character swaps, card attacks on bosses, and card system outside of the Battle Dungeon are just stupid choices on their part. I can understand why they had to replace Kondo, Takechi, and not-Baba since they're based on real people, but everyone else? Even then their choices for both Kondo and Takechi are really poorly thought out.
They're like half a foot in the right directly, half not.
If I go to that Arena, can I go back to Ijincho?
As far as I remember, yes, you can just take the taxi out since they don't want to prevent you from changing jobs. You're never locked to a town and even if you are because I remembered wrong you go back to Ijincho the next chapter anyway since the Battle Arena is the only thing you can really do before the end of the chapter.
>but everyone else?
Well, it's a good why to bring more recent players into the game because "OH IT'S THAT GUY." OG Ishin had so many characters from 5, it was insane (and it made sense as it was the most recent game at the time), whereas here, it's a bit more spread out and even. Not one game is represented way more than everything else, so in a way, you can make a lot more people happy. 0, 6, and 7 are the most recent games, two of those being the most popular titles with newcomers, so it makes sense to use character from those games to market Ishin. I'm not too torn up about the cast changes because at the end of the day, they are just representations of historical figures. I will say, not including Shinada or Rikiya is a missed opportunity, given how well-liked they are.
The problem is that Han, Zhao, and Mabuchi stick out like a sore thumb compared to most everyone else. Kuze is probably the smartest and best change they made out of all of them. The crazier thing is that while Ms. Tatsu's outfit is kinda flashy she still looks like she fits, and you can buy Bacchus being a foreigner with a weird outfit since Tom and Black Boats guy are in it. But Mabuchi and Zhao have modern haircuts and looks like Han has pure white hair in an espionage role.
Lao would have probably stuck out as well but surely he's a better choice than Mabuchi. I can understand not using Rikiya/Yuta because I think the VA is popular, but yeah, Shinada would have made more sense. Or even Tanimura since now they can use nuTanimura.
The issue with Kondo and Takechi is that if you have knowledge of 0 or 7 you instantly spoil yourself on the twists Ishin dedicates hours to setting up.
Actual Ishin spoilers here: Kondo is built up for multiple chapters as someone Ryoma believes is responsible for the murder of not-Kazama after the assassin died a chapter or two earlier. The twist is that after your fight and a bunch of other stuff Kondo is revealed to be on Ryoma's side. By making him Adachi you instantly believe he's a good guy. Takechi is built up over multiple chapters as being an innocent victim of the assassination and as Ryoma's best friend. They even throw Izo there to throw you off his scent. The twist is that Takechi was behind the assassination and trying to overtake all of Japan. By having him as Shibusawa you instantly tell the player he's a bad guy.
Hey quick question can you do the 'beat game on normal without switching to easy' achievements on NG+? Asking since believe it or not I got 100% on Yakuza 5 (even if it was because of keyboard controls letting you cheat in some minigames) and doing the platinum shouldn't be too hard if I get bored
Also seemingly expanding the soundtrack with new themes instead of remixing/replacing the tracks not counting the licenced music There better be a sounds storm remix and it better be good
I see no reason why the game wouldn't allow that. Just pick normal, try not to die too much, and you should get it no problem. Why didn't you play on Normal in the first place?
I beat it on hard with only 1 continue I don't even remember so I'd be able to do it fine either way, just wanted to know if I could do it faster
The problem is that Han, Zhao, and Mabuchi stick out like a sore thumb compared to most everyone else. Kuze is probably the smartest and best change they made out of all of them. The crazier thing is that while Ms. Tatsu's outfit is kinda flashy she still looks like she fits, and you can buy Bacchus being a foreigner with a weird outfit since Tom and Black Boats guy are in it. But Mabuchi and Zhao have modern haircuts and looks like Han has pure white hair in an espionage role.
Lao would have probably stuck out as well but surely he's a better choice than Mabuchi. I can understand not using Rikiya/Yuta because I think the VA is popular, but yeah, Shinada would have made more sense. Or even Tanimura since now they can use nuTanimura.
The issue with Kondo and Takechi is that if you have knowledge of 0 or 7 you instantly spoil yourself on the twists Ishin dedicates hours to setting up.
Actual Ishin spoilers here: Kondo is built up for multiple chapters as someone Ryoma believes is responsible for the murder of not-Kazama after the assassin died a chapter or two earlier. The twist is that after your fight and a bunch of other stuff Kondo is revealed to be on Ryoma's side. By making him Adachi you instantly believe he's a good guy. Takechi is built up over multiple chapters as being an innocent victim of the assassination and as Ryoma's best friend. They even throw Izo there to throw you off his scent. The twist is that Takechi was behind the assassination and trying to overtake all of Japan. By having him as Shibusawa you instantly tell the player he's a bad guy.
To be a bit fair Han does stick out less than Kagahara and his giant-ass scar when he has the headband thing on https://twitter.com/ryugagotoku/status/1612585015405121541
I don't know what scenes have it off/on though
It's UE4, not 5.
Frostbite sucks dick outside of good looking tech demos and multiplayer shooter games, and generally is hard to work on. Mass Effect Andromeda with Dragon Age Inquisitions are best examples of how bad it can get.
>played Yakuza 0, K1, K2, 3, 4 >started with 0, it was fantastic >Nishiki was cool but overall K1 was a fricking chore to play >K2 was actually pretty great >3 and 4 were straight up fricking awful >will definitely never play 5 and 6, because 3 and 4 completely soured me on the series >Ishin looks cool though because I love samurai shit >but chances are it's a fricking garbage game as well >still...kinda looks cool >70 fricking euros
Man, this shit better get cracked. Thanks for reading my blog.
>but chances are it's a fricking garbage game as well
Nah, Ishin was a lot of fun and as long as you don't touch the cards in combat outside of the Battle Dungeon Ishin Kiwami will be more or less the same as the original based on all the footage we've seen. The only real issues it has by comparison is the character changes and addition of card movesets to bosses.
The fricked port is a big reason why so many don't like it. It completely screwed up enemy AI so its block city and you're forced to play pretty much one way.
Yeah, the increased framerate caused the quickstep on PS4 to be double distance. They adjusted it for Xbox and PC as well, but on those systems, the quickstep doesn't go far enough.
The Remastered Collection in general is a mess because of the 60 FPS. 5's PC port was extra broken until they did a bunch of emergency patches quickly after release and now it's in a better state.
Yakuza 5 has peak stupidity in the finale. Well, now we're on this rooftop, we should fight, even if we have no good reason to, only so that the guy who brought us here to fight will show himself and kill us all !
YAKUZA 5 was actually the best game of the past 30 years and SEGA's magnum opus. It's the pinnacle of the series and achieved everything RGG tried to do with the franchise and every game before or after is a downgrade.
>K2 was actually pretty great
I actually dropped the series there, just felt like i was playing the same game for the 3rd time, but somehow with even shittier combat
3 and 4 are a weird case, while i feel 3's combat is all over the place due to new framerate the story is more entretaining than 4's althoe RIKIYA is a shit character and im glad he got killed while 4 combat is more fun the story gets really fricking goofy and not due to the rubber bullet but how much stupid the cast is in general
4's combat is bad in a different direction than 3. It's braindead because nothing has the ability to counter Saejima or Akiyama's most absolutely basic shit. I remember fighting super Kiryu in the IF7 is like the only time in the whole game Akiyama can't just spam his super string over and over.
>Mediocre series >Should I play the bad samurai spinoff first, when it has non-stop references to past games?
Play Yakuza 0. If you can manage to make it to Chapter 10, you will probably like the series. Then play Kiwami 1. If you enjoyed that shitfest, proceed to Kiwami 2. Now that you are completely set up, suffer through Yakuza 3.
I stopped after beating Zero. My brother was playing Kiwami ahead of me and informed me of how trash the final boss was. I wasn't enjoying the combat much at that point, dropped it. Further entries, I don't wanna play as curly haired muttoid man, and I have the feeling the writing can't get better than Zero, so, yeah.
I'll take your word for it, wasn't the catch that the Dragon style was the most effective against him? Or just in general? I hate that the game really wants you to invest in Dragon style, I can't put my finger on one good reason, but I didn't like it. Think I used rush in zero the most.
Dragon style is what Kiryu uses in the later games. Its why the style system made sense in 0 but not really past that. He was learning his moves and merges them into one style later on.
>the port
Nah, CIA twin was already in the OG version
Yakuza games have stupid shit in pretty much all of them.
He could only have Dragon's Kiwami Heat used on him to knock him out of the regen. DoD is the best style in the game (and is Kiryu's only style going forward) and suitable for anything but even if you just fight the boss with the base three styles it's still a great time. You have no idea how disappointing that fight was in 1 after being angry at the boss before it. He barely even got hits in, I was always behind his back, and the amount of objects in the battle arena let you keep him down on the ground pretty much indefinitely, it was a joke. In K1 he actually puts up a fight and the items in the arena aren't as effective even with Beast.
You should play 0 at least. Ishin is just, "oh it's that character but le heckin Samurai!" It's a fanservice game, so wouldn't make much sense to play it if you are not a fan.
You need to know how Ryoma died in real life and read up on Saigo and Kido Takayoshi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Great_Nobles_of_the_Restoration
The following is only if you want more context on a substory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ships
Everything else is explained to you in-game, and even the things I listed aren't necessary but they will explain some events in some chapters that you are expected to already understand.
Why would they not localize it just because "the game doesn't make things perfectly clear"? There are plenty of confusing games out in the west.
The game itself has Haruka selling herself to a brothel so she can get money to pay Musashi to kill himself. The game doesn't make it clear she's not actually having sex with clients but is instead a waitress, it's just assumed you know how the distinction worked back in the day. It also starts the game with some guys enslaving some kids and smacking them.
Again, not a deal breaker to get a game released but since Sega is so worried about controversies to the point they cut Michiru out and are even censoring Ishin Kiwami a bit it's something to think about.
>but I’m probably alone on that
I've been wanting a Kamen Rider crossover for years. It's the perfect setup but John Toei would never allow it. Considering their crossovers with RGGO there's also a chance we might see a Tokyo Revengers, Baki, Golden Kamui, or Psycho-Pass game from them but that's just speculation based on that and only that.
I don’t remember much of 4 other than the 4 final boss fights not making a lot of sense
I don’t remember why Kiryu beat up Daigo or why saejima beat up the one kid
Kiryu beat up Daigo because while good intentioned, he was betraying the clan and everything it stood for. Kiryu wanted to put him back on the right path and steel his resolve. Kido was afraid to take his chance, but Saejima gave him the courage to do so. That chance, however, ended up with him betraying Saejima and the other heroes. All of the final bosses in 4 are people that the protags had faith in, but steered the path into the wrong direction. A combination of tough love and well-deserved ass-kicking.
>Hey Daigo you will be the head of the Tojo clan now >b-but I don't want to >I don't care, btw I'm gonna go run an orphanage now so good luck I guess >Hey Daigo I have to teach you how to be a leader now I guess even though I abandoned you and left you in charge of shit years ago, btw after this game I'm gonna go frick off and be a Taxi Driver in bumfrick nowhere too, good luck
lol
I'm almost at the end of Yakuza 5 and frankly I didn't find it as good as some of the previous entries. I know it has tons of side content, but I'm really not into a good chunk of it.
It really doesn't take long to make the combat feel good, especially in Yakuza 4's case. You can almost immediately get the really good upgrades that make the characters more flexible. It's a shame they never really did that style of upgrades again for the main series.
That fricking permanent frown he has starting from Y3 is so god awful. Well, at least he smiled like twice in 3 but in all future titles he looks like the most pissed off goon imaginable while at the same time having a voice and mannerism of the most passive b***h, so it's really unfitting. Especially Y6 has this really phoned in voice acting and he goes 'A-AAHHH smartphonu I use wakarimasen I old ugu~ :(' or similar in like nearly every god damned cutscene.
man LJ combat difference is like night and day compared to the first one, in the first one even changing styles worked sometimes and sometimes not cuz for some reason the game liked to drop inputs constantly, while LJ i can do combos for day right out of the start
tell me about it, dropping Judgment was the best decision cuz i was fricking sick of the game by chapter 6 with that combat, while in LJ i been just beating people up in the prologue for hours and it doesn't get boring
Judgment combat is good on PC now thanks to mods, so it's now the perfect game (unlike LJ). >no Puyo Puyo >sick ass story >Kamurocho and not Shitkohama >Friendship system which gives you Ryan >ALL the GFs, and no the shit ones from LJ >No school stories, better sidecases
The only thing that could be considered a negative now is the lightning which is a downgrade from the OG, but once they finish the Juggle Eyes mod and port every style to JE then LJ might as well be irrelevant, feel free to prove me wrong though.
OH MY GOD IS THAT... IS THAT... LAUNCHER -> SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE (STYLE SWITCH) SQUARE SQUARE (STYLE SWITCH) AD INFINITUM EPIC JUGGLE??? THAT'S LIKE THE BEST COMBAT EVER
This. I'm still mad at how shit the story for LJ was. Judgement was such a breath of fresh air with a plot that was interesting to investigate even if it shit the bed a bit at the finish line. LJ though the story is absolutely shit from start to finish. They then release Kaito Files and that turns out to have the most generic fricking plot that you can see what all is going to happen from a mile away. Also bring back Hamura, the most kino antagonist since yakuza 2.
>Actor got caught for drug stuff in Japan
Never ever
1 year ago
Anonymous
That was the original actor that did the capture and VA. The new actor does as good if not a better job so no reason they can't keep using the character.
1 year ago
Anonymous
The original actor still stains the character’s reputation.
There’s a reason Tanimura was barely even mentioned after Y4
>LJ though the story is absolutely shit from start to finish.
I thought bullying being so important to the story was stupid but I still thought it was fine from the start. In my opinion, the story nosedived after Sawa died. After that the writing became exceedingly trash because they thought that was the only counterpoint they needed to any argument in the story.
1 year ago
Anonymous
what other counterpoint would they need? sawa's death epitomizes everything wrong with kuwanas shtick
1 year ago
Anonymous
There were other avenues they could have explored. Kuwana's whole spiel about what he's doing being a way to give justice for people where the law can't was a load of shit that Yagami could be have easily refuted when it came out that Kuwana was still killing people even after the families denied his offer. After that his entire justification is moot because he's in it for purely selfish reasons. Him saying that the families tacitly agreed since they didn't report him even though he killed the bullies anyway is extremely flimsy too.
1 year ago
Anonymous
But they did explore other avenues
I find it really unfair how everyone boils down LJ's story to "muh sawa senseu". it's liked the shut their eyes and plugged their ears whenever a scene with Reiko or Ehara came up.
Reiko's entire role was to show another flaw in Kuwana's vigilantism. She showed that even the families who agreed with Kuwana were left with a massive burden that would effect not only themselves but the people around them. Because she took part in the murder she nearly became a puppet Public Safety, and because she refused she was sent to prison, leaving her son to recover from his coma alone.
In Ehara's case it showed how through Kuwana's elaborate plot, Ehara's revenge became more about playing a game with the legal system rather than getting justice for Toshiro. Which is why Yagami is unable to sway Ehara until he shows him the recording of Sawa. Ehara was not only going to let himself rot in prison for a crime he didn;t commit, only to allow himself to get sent back to prison for the murder he DID commit, but he was also about to let the single piece of evidence of Toshiro's suffering be lost to time. That's what broke him and made him confess, he was reminded of what really mattered to him, getting justice for his son, not playing his part in Kuwana's game.
Both of them also tie in with Sawa's murder. Reiko is convinced to confess after Yagami reminds her that she was one of Mitsuru's classmates, and that she was murdered because Kuwana wanted to play the punisher. Ehara was convinced because of Sawa's recording of her talking about Toshiro confiding in her.
Sawa was just the one victim that Yagami had a personal connection to.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Kuwana killed the bullies only if the victim's family agreed to it. He didn't kill the bullies anyway if his offer was denied.
I see people posting dancing girls, topless men, suited businessmen, samurais, men singing karaoke and weird out of context sexual quotes, should I get into this franchise, like what even are these games like?
Sandboxy brawler
You have a city, a main objective, and you can ignore this main objective and fight around the city, play minigames or complete optional small sub stories. Stories are yakuza drama with over the top twists and interesting characters
Small, focused sandboxes with arcadey action gameplay, tons of side content, and elaborate, Japanese crime drama stories that focus on different themes for each game.
I'm currently in chapter 11 in LAD. Where do I get weapons now? I haven't crafted anything. I only bought the ones in Chinatown. Even the armors. I had them since like chapter 5 because I went all in with the property sidegame. Should I start crafting already?
Also what are the best jobs for each character? From what I guessed on others which seems to be right.
>Where do I get weapons now?
Chapter 12 will give you the second best weapons for the default jobs because of the Battle Arena. The other second best equips are from PTH or minigame shops. The best weapons are made by upgrading default weapons/the weakest weapons for each job repeatedly. The crafting system is actually pointless and produces garbage equips most of the time, the Nouveau Riche Crowns are like the only thing there that's worth it. >Even the armors.
Best armor is from the dungeon unlocked in the last chapter from random safes. >Also what are the best jobs for each character?
Jobs don't matter on Normal, it's whatever you want ad everyone is viable in every job, you can even put the girls in solely attacking jobs and have Nanba be a melee class. On Legend it's >Ichiban - Hero >Adachi - Benched. If he's not benched then Detective, Foreman, or Enforcer. >Nanba - Host >Saeko - Idol >Eri - Dealer >Han - Enforcer >Zhao - Gangster or Breaker
>Chapter 12 will give you the second best weapons for the default jobs because of the Battle Arena.
So basically I should actually get to chapter 12 now to get the weapons? >The other second best equips are from PTH or minigame shops.
I mean it would be nice to do Part Time Hero but I'm at the part where the enemies I need to get or even the items I need to get are not available supposedly yet.
How time consuming is it to get the best weapons? I'm fine with just having at least the second best. I don't want to grind forever in this.
Depends on if you've been skipping fights, doing minigames, and grabbing stuff in the park. You won't be able to get them until chapter 12 because 12 has the bottlecaps you need to actually do some upgrades and to make the best weapon it consumes the second best weapon. You can buy almost all the mats you need for the upgrades, only a couple are found in the dungeons/the park. You also don't need EX EX at any point, EX alone is more than enough for even TFMT and everything past EX was added because of the TFMT DLC for people who spent hours grinding out mats before it came out and/or were going into a Legend playthrough.
Here, the top two-third of this image are what you should be paying attention to.
Hitman is terrible on Legend. His Matrix Essence barely does like 600-800ish damage to all enemies and is resisted by a lot of enemies. Like 80% of his jobs moves are unusable due to accuracy checks, Head Trauma isn't as good as Paralysis Prongs, Double Shot stops being usable even with Hitman's high Dexterity, and while his best weapon does increase Agility he already gets two turns before any enemy so in a general battle (and even boss ones) the weapon isn't really adding much to his moveset.
Enforcer on the other hand makes him a bit bulkier, grants him Essence of Shield Bash which bare minimum does 1200 to all enemies and is typically not resisted and can sometimes paralyze which is amazing on Legend, and he still typically goes two times before more than one enemy gets their turn. If Eri throws a Shadow Stitch on an enemy or he lucks into a paralysis proc then he can proceed to use Paralysis Prongs without worrying about the accuracy check for like 1400+ to a single enemy.
I've liked them all and am looking forward to Ishin Kiwami, I just had some issues with things like FotNS, Dead Souls, K1, and 3 that made them far more annoying. Doesn't mean they're bad games.
I beat it on hard with only 1 continue I don't even remember so I'd be able to do it fine either way, just wanted to know if I could do it faster
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To be a bit fair Han does stick out less than Kagahara and his giant-ass scar when he has the headband thing on https://twitter.com/ryugagotoku/status/1612585015405121541
I don't know what scenes have it off/on though
On one hand sure, on the other he's supposed to be playing a homeless beggar and a scar sort of tells you he's been around. Han still looks like a K-pop star with soft skin.
do you own any yakuza merch irl, i want to finally get some collectables of my favorite series but don't know where to start with Yakuza. seems like the series doesn't get much if any licensed products.
Nah, I've seen the Kiryu Figma at a comic shop in real life (It's horrible even for the $30ish they were asking) and have been looking into some t-shirts but my purchases so far are just the games.
I know of the YakuzaFan store if you want some t-shirts:
https://www.teepublic.com/user/yakuzafan
I was considering the Ono Michio-kun and Sky Finance ones specifically.
0 and 6's collector's editions have their various knickknacks if you want to try getting those but 0's is mainly just for the novelty of the business cards. BP1 and BP2 also have first-press editions that came with stuff, I know BP2 came with a DLC card thing, I forgot what 1's was.
Wait so you’re fine with K2?
I always heard that was more controversial than K1.
I don't have major issues with K2 but there are definitely issues there. Look, I'm critical on these games because I love them, that doesn't mean I hate or dislike them.
The thing with the Kiwamis is that they're not really remakes that replace the original. Even Ishin Kiwami is the same thing though Ishin Kiwami's a bit more similar to the original than K1 and K2. It's worth playing 1 even if you played K1 and vice-versa, and the same goes for 2 and K2. There's just so much different content and the experience isn't the same at all.
>Kiryu Figma
it looks pretty terrible but I'd still buy it for $30. i don't really keep track of figurines but I'm under the impression that figma has been getting better in quality lately so too bad kiryu got the short end of the stick if that's the case >0 and 6's collector's editions
Yeah I have those, preordered them when announced >t-shirts
not too keen personally, I'd probably sooner buy a print/poster but all the fanmade ones i've seen look like shit
Out of what I've played I like all of them but I have my own gripes with each of them, even with 0 'cause why did they make hostesses and the awful telephone club required to face amon when 5 mostly fixed that
I've liked them all and am looking forward to Ishin Kiwami, I just had some issues with things like FotNS, Dead Souls, K1, and 3 that made them far more annoying. Doesn't mean they're bad games.
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On one hand sure, on the other he's supposed to be playing a homeless beggar and a scar sort of tells you he's been around. Han still looks like a K-pop star with soft skin.
I'm playing through 6 right now, and I've liked all mainline games for now, and it would take a disaster for me to actively dislike 6, I'm having a good time for now. I haven't played spin-offs.
That said, 3 was definitely an acquired taste, the game itself wasn't really good, it was mostly thanks to the rest of the series I've played through it.
I just finished Yakuza 3 just 5 minutes ago. I don't know how to feel other that I think the game should've been a duology because the pacing was breackneck fast.
>dude you can totally play Yakuza 0 as your first Yakuza >reach ending >spoilers for future games because, it turns out, the devs expected you to play up to Y5 before 0
I forgot about these, introduced my friend to the series with 0 and told him that kiryu's story arc "ended" as far as mainline games go so he thinks the 10 years in prison has something to do with it.
The epilogues are clearly written in the 'present' which is why it says Majima "continues to play a role in the yakuza" and how Kiryu's "current whereabouts are unknown". >literally all events that take place BEFORE yakuza 1
Kiryu goes to prison in 1995 before Yakuza 1 starts?
This just spoilers chapter 1 of the next game. Nothing about 2-5. The only spoilery thing in 0 is the fortuneteller substory and that just goes over most player's heads if they never played the previous games.
>Didn't realize that side cases in Lost Judgement have a specific starting window >Didn't start Ryan's mission in time as I was too caught up with the main story
This will be the first RGG I have to play NG+ for.
>Can I play this without prior knowledge?
unfortunately no you can't. you need to play the original yakuza PS2 and ps3 games including the remakes on ps4 and the ps4 games including the spinoffs. also you need to play the jp only games with a guide including ishin and the psp games. you can skip 7 as that is pure shit and not a yakuza game.
Oh... So i can't jump into Ishin straight from GoT? Can I get a rundown of the spin-offs this franchise has? Main series i just followthe numbers?
dude Im fricking with you you can play ishin without playing any other yakuza game just don't expect ghost of tsushima, some stuff will go over your head but not so much that you will be lost.
Alright. But just to clarify, the setting is a Japanese samurai world right? I play as a samurai? I know you guys said it plays different but so long as it has samurai aesthetics, I should be happy
yeah you play as a samurai
Yeah. It's a samurai story with a bunch of RnG characters assuming the roles of named samurai from the past. You don't need to play the other games unless you want the added affect of recognizing x RnG character playing the role of x samurai or other RnG references in the side content.
RnG?
He meant "RGG". Ryu Ga Gotoku, the name of the series and the studio behind the games.
It's basically a samurai era action drama where the characters are people from all over the Like a Dragon series. For example
>Sakamoto Ryoma
is Kiryu
>Okita Soji
is Majima
>Katsura Kogoro
is Shun Akiyama
It plays like Yakuza 5, so it isn't like the 6th one or Kiwami 2 as it has the old engine and combat
>just don't expect ghost of tsushima,
Yeah Yakuza is 1 million times better than that Hollywood kusoge goyslop
Yeah it’s just Yakuza characters as late Edo Period historical figures so if anything read up or watch a video on that
Newbie Yakuza-gay here.
Ishin is a spinoff game of the Yakuza franchise, and it seems to closely follow the formula of the pre-Like A Dragon games, as in real-time beat'em up in a small but dense "open world" city setting.
It'll obviously be jampacked with references, with all the characters being like ancestor doppelgangers of the main series and all, but I doubt that'll matter much.
If you want to dip your toes into the experience and have a good time, you should try Yakuza 0.
It's the prequel game to the whole main franchise, it's easily the most polished of them all, and the gameplay mirrors IShin's very close, with the 3-4 battle styles you can swap between and all.
Also, just to make it clear: don't expect a short, linear game about nonstop action. The countless side stories filled with character interaction and minigames are like the bread and butter of the franchise.
>but I doubt that'll matter much.
It kinda does, kinda doesn't. OG Ishin plays on your expectations of the characters and typically rolls with it, sometimes doesn't, and expects you to like guys like Saigo and Katsura as soon as you meet them because it's Ryuji and Akiyama rather than the story making you warm up to them. It even uses Shishido Baiken in Kenzan and Okita in Ishin to trip you up a couple times because you know how Majima is but they pull a "Will he? Won't he?" deal with him constantly.
This is why the changes in Kiwami are kind of an issue for the main story if you know how those characters act. If you don't it doesn't matter.
>Ishin is a spinoff game of the Yakuza franchise, and it seems to closely follow the formula of the pre-Like A Dragon games
Then why call it Like a Dragon ishin and not Yakuza ishin?
because the Japanese name of the games is "Ryu Ga Gotoku" which means "Like a Dragon" in Japanese, when the games were first brought over to the west on the PS2, they thought "Like a Dragon" was a weird name for english audiences and just called it "Yakuza" instead
it's another case of western marketing teams being idiots who change things for reasons they invent in their heads, like pic related
>what's this artsy shit that looks unique? nah frick that, make a shitty 3D render of the main character in an action pose and shove that on the front of the box
>pic related
I'm moronic
what the actual frick is wrong with Americans?
>pic related
Yakuza is a much better name than le Like A Dragon.
>call game series Yakuza
>the yakuza is literally dead and not part of the over arching story anymore
Do you see the problem?
>have spin off about samurai, randomly call it yakuza
Do you see the problem?
Anon what if I told you that yakuza and samurai have more in common than you think?
It’s not called yakuza, moron.
Exactly. Because they changed the name recently to Like a Dragon. Do you see the benefit now?
Damn bro you’re frickin moronic
So you'd rather have it named Yakuza? You idiots make no sense. It's a game about samurai, it's a good thing the series was changed to Like a Dragon
>keeps digging
Bro HOW are you this frickin moronic?
Ok propose a better name
Hahaha. Nobody tell him.
Because the whole Yakuza / LaA thing is a localization mess SEGA's now trying to solve.
In case you didn't know, the LaD name is how the main series is know in the Japan (Ryou Ga Gotoku). You can't just go yelling around "OMG YAKUZAH!!" in Nippon, but some mystic name about dragons and shit apparently wouldn't have rolled in the States, so it was renamed into closest thing to a Japanese Mafia they could come up with.
With LaD7, the Western publishers finally decided to test the waters with the closer-2-OG name, simply because the gameplay was so vastly different.
Also, there were no Yakuza in 1800s Japan.
>Yakuza 6
>Yakuza Like a Dragon
>Like a Dragon Ishin
>Like a Dragon 8
BRILLIANT MARKETING
You forgot Gaiden in between Ishin and 8.
All the fans already know the deal, no one cares.
>You can't just go yelling around "OMG YAKUZAH!!" in Nippon
why
Risk of getting mixed in the actual Yakuza biz, and the whole yakuza subculture is publicly frowned on.
you watch too much anime lmao
Incorrect. I've actually been to Japan. The locals are actually visibly shocked if you tell'em how the games are known in the West.
Ever noticed how you never play as a real deal Yakuza thug in the games? Kiryu's constantly running off / resigning / etc, and the "lol no1 died!" meme is already a well known. That's kinda the reason.
he's joking, this spin-off game has nothing to do with the story from the other games, it's just re-using the characters from the games as actors for a re-telling of a real-life story from a historical time period
this is one of a few Yakuza/Like a Dragon games where you can play them without playing any other games in the series and NOT be lost on the story, the others being 0 (because it's a prequel), 1 (because it's the first game to be released), and Kenzan (which is another spin-off like Ishin, except this covers Miyamoto Musashi in the Sengoku period instead)
Why is there no Like a Dragon kenzan? Maybe if ishin does well?
yeah after reading Vagabond I got really interested in Miyamoto Musashi's story, and when I saw the Ishin announcement I actually got confused and got really excited because I thought they were remaking Kenzan
I really hope they can re-use Ishin assets and do Kenzan next, I've been wanting to play that for a while
They were talking about doing Kenzan Kiwami around two years back in some interviews but they went with remaking Ishin for some insanely stupid reason instead of porting it as a remaster.
They also might not want to deal with the story themes of Kenzan when it comes to localization since it could cause some controversy if people in the west get thrown into a tizzy since the game doesn't make things perfectly clear when going into it what's going on. People made a point that Demon Slayer has the same themes and came out in the west without a peep but who knows what Sega is thinking.
Why would they not localize it just because "the game doesn't make things perfectly clear"? There are plenty of confusing games out in the west.
>Can I play this game that features all these characters from 6 different Yakuza games, and is basically a cross-over fanservice for the Yakuza fanbase?
comon anon, u can figure out this yourself
IT HAS DENUVO
ITS A SHIT GAME
DENUVO
I REPEAT IT HAS DENUVO SO IT MUST BE A SHIT GAME
Good game + Denuvo = Bad Game
Avoid it at ALL COSTS
but I want to play it on my PS4.
I didn't know this. Which are the 6 Yakuza games I need to play to understand the characters that show up in Ishin?
>Which are the 6 Yakuza games I need to play to understand the characters
Yakuza 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7
Not sure if the remake features characters from Yakuza 6, so I wrote 6 Yakuza games instead of 7
Chances are that Moose shows up any minute and write you a blogpost about everything
there he is
I will be pre purchasing this game on Steam to play it 3 days early. And there’s nothing you can do about it. All you homosexuals make 69 thousand awful gaming decisions a year, this one is the one I will make.
>Only have to preorder to play early
Huh, that's lenient. They used to make you buy the digital deluxe versions.
stay mad rusgay
why would you buy the newest release, and most expensive, when you could have just bought Yakuza 0 for like $5 last week?
because I'm just coming off of GoT and was looking for something similar and this came up
Ishin Kiwami can be taken at face value and it would arguably be better because of the changes in Kiwami but like half the game is going to be "Remember these guys from the mainline games? Here's them as different characters in the past." Most of the Battle Dungeon cards are Memberberries, the new substories they added in Kiwami are strictly Memberberries for people who played 0, etc.
This isn't similar at all to GoT. GoT is samurai Assassin's Creed, this is a beat 'em up in a small hub world.
I'm sorrry, what is a Kiwami? And I understand the gameplay of Ishin is different but I like the setting and lore of GoT so it's still good if I care about that right?
Thank you, okay, so I should definitely play the mainline series first, ok. Is there any other spin-offs I should be aware of that are important? And why did you know The tripguy would appear? Is he famous? Is he a mod?
>why did you know The tripguy would appear? Is he famous? Is he a mod?
I'm halfway convinced Moose is an advanced AI that filters v for yakuza threads tbh senpai
Like a Dragon Ishin is Ishin Kiwami in Japan. It's a remake of Like a Dragon Ishin which was Japanese only up until now and is changing a lot of stuff from the original game.
>but I like the setting and lore of GoT so it's still good if I care about that right?
I mean kind of? It sort of expects you to know the history of the time period and only somewhat explains what's going on enough to follow the main story but has two separate chapters where you're supposed to know a bit of Japanese history to make any sense of what's going on rather than taking it at face value. It focuses more on the characters doing stuff for its own story than the history.
The side quests deal more on some of the more historical things like how the news spread, how people lived in poverty, how mail was delivered, how people got around, how foreigners were treated, etc.
If you just want a samurai game go nuts, just expect a lot of the side content to be aimed towards fans rather than someone jumping in blind.
It sounds good.
ok great
The game does expect you to be familiar with most of the history around that time, since the plot is playing around the historical facts to create its own conspiracies and plot twists.
Like it basically plays up a lot of fake and secret identities
You only really need to know two specific things which I listed
. The game explains everything else, and it really hammers home the fact that the collaborators are dealing with foreigners to get weaponry into the country. Even then I went into the game only knowing the general idea of how Ryoma died and came out of it fine. The Saigo and Katsura stuff makes no sense without context and is just them pissed off at each other until Ryoma takes them out drinking but you are kind of told stuff about Saigo as to what's going on with him so it's not too big a deal.
Kenzan's the one that needs no real historical knowledge to understand the main story of. It's very straightfoward and all you miss is some nods like fighting Kojiro on the beach with an oar.
MATING PRESS WITH HANA-CHAN
GoT is like 1200s and Ishin is like mid 1800s if I recall, so it's not the same time period.
It's beautiful.
I think this style of remake would be preferable to the usual Kiwami remakes.
>basically gives the game a huge facelift
>use the budget to touch up the already existing gameplay and other content
>works for marketing the game to new players because it looks shiny and polished (normies are scared of older games)
Ishin Kiwami isn't doing everything perfectly, but I think it's a good middle-ground.
I'm fine with them doing it like this as long as they stop making unnecessary changes. Added content like the new substories is good and the quality of life changes for some menus is appreciated. The character swaps, card attacks on bosses, and card system outside of the Battle Dungeon are just stupid choices on their part. I can understand why they had to replace Kondo, Takechi, and not-Baba since they're based on real people, but everyone else? Even then their choices for both Kondo and Takechi are really poorly thought out.
They're like half a foot in the right directly, half not.
As far as I remember, yes, you can just take the taxi out since they don't want to prevent you from changing jobs. You're never locked to a town and even if you are because I remembered wrong you go back to Ijincho the next chapter anyway since the Battle Arena is the only thing you can really do before the end of the chapter.
>but everyone else?
Well, it's a good why to bring more recent players into the game because "OH IT'S THAT GUY." OG Ishin had so many characters from 5, it was insane (and it made sense as it was the most recent game at the time), whereas here, it's a bit more spread out and even. Not one game is represented way more than everything else, so in a way, you can make a lot more people happy. 0, 6, and 7 are the most recent games, two of those being the most popular titles with newcomers, so it makes sense to use character from those games to market Ishin. I'm not too torn up about the cast changes because at the end of the day, they are just representations of historical figures. I will say, not including Shinada or Rikiya is a missed opportunity, given how well-liked they are.
The problem is that Han, Zhao, and Mabuchi stick out like a sore thumb compared to most everyone else. Kuze is probably the smartest and best change they made out of all of them. The crazier thing is that while Ms. Tatsu's outfit is kinda flashy she still looks like she fits, and you can buy Bacchus being a foreigner with a weird outfit since Tom and Black Boats guy are in it. But Mabuchi and Zhao have modern haircuts and looks like Han has pure white hair in an espionage role.
Lao would have probably stuck out as well but surely he's a better choice than Mabuchi. I can understand not using Rikiya/Yuta because I think the VA is popular, but yeah, Shinada would have made more sense. Or even Tanimura since now they can use nuTanimura.
The issue with Kondo and Takechi is that if you have knowledge of 0 or 7 you instantly spoil yourself on the twists Ishin dedicates hours to setting up.
Actual Ishin spoilers here:
Kondo is built up for multiple chapters as someone Ryoma believes is responsible for the murder of not-Kazama after the assassin died a chapter or two earlier. The twist is that after your fight and a bunch of other stuff Kondo is revealed to be on Ryoma's side. By making him Adachi you instantly believe he's a good guy.
Takechi is built up over multiple chapters as being an innocent victim of the assassination and as Ryoma's best friend. They even throw Izo there to throw you off his scent. The twist is that Takechi was behind the assassination and trying to overtake all of Japan. By having him as Shibusawa you instantly tell the player he's a bad guy.
Hey quick question can you do the 'beat game on normal without switching to easy' achievements on NG+? Asking since believe it or not I got 100% on Yakuza 5 (even if it was because of keyboard controls letting you cheat in some minigames) and doing the platinum shouldn't be too hard if I get bored
Also seemingly expanding the soundtrack with new themes instead of remixing/replacing the tracks not counting the licenced music
There better be a sounds storm remix and it better be good
I see no reason why the game wouldn't allow that. Just pick normal, try not to die too much, and you should get it no problem. Why didn't you play on Normal in the first place?
I beat it on hard with only 1 continue I don't even remember so I'd be able to do it fine either way, just wanted to know if I could do it faster
To be a bit fair Han does stick out less than Kagahara and his giant-ass scar when he has the headband thing on https://twitter.com/ryugagotoku/status/1612585015405121541
I don't know what scenes have it off/on though
Is UE5 always this sweaty? I thought frostbite was the sweatiest
It's UE4, not 5.
Frostbite sucks dick outside of good looking tech demos and multiplayer shooter games, and generally is hard to work on. Mass Effect Andromeda with Dragon Age Inquisitions are best examples of how bad it can get.
That's rain.
>played Yakuza 0, K1, K2, 3, 4
>started with 0, it was fantastic
>Nishiki was cool but overall K1 was a fricking chore to play
>K2 was actually pretty great
>3 and 4 were straight up fricking awful
>will definitely never play 5 and 6, because 3 and 4 completely soured me on the series
>Ishin looks cool though because I love samurai shit
>but chances are it's a fricking garbage game as well
>still...kinda looks cool
>70 fricking euros
Man, this shit better get cracked. Thanks for reading my blog.
>but chances are it's a fricking garbage game as well
Nah, Ishin was a lot of fun and as long as you don't touch the cards in combat outside of the Battle Dungeon Ishin Kiwami will be more or less the same as the original based on all the footage we've seen. The only real issues it has by comparison is the character changes and addition of card movesets to bosses.
I feel like I am the only person who liked Yakuza 3
its also my favourite, u are not alone fren
The fricked port is a big reason why so many don't like it. It completely screwed up enemy AI so its block city and you're forced to play pretty much one way.
>the port
Nah, CIA twin was already in the OG version
doesn't it also frick up quickstep range because of the framerate or something like that? i don't like 3 to begin with but that port was a disaster
Yeah, the increased framerate caused the quickstep on PS4 to be double distance. They adjusted it for Xbox and PC as well, but on those systems, the quickstep doesn't go far enough.
I did not know they fricked up the port for 3.
The Remastered Collection in general is a mess because of the 60 FPS. 5's PC port was extra broken until they did a bunch of emergency patches quickly after release and now it's in a better state.
3 is pretty good, it's better than 1, 4, 6 and 7
I don't really find it much more stupid than 4 and 5.
Yakuza 5 has peak stupidity in the finale.
Well, now we're on this rooftop, we should fight, even if we have no good reason to, only so that the guy who brought us here to fight will show himself and kill us all !
As stupid as 4 is, I think 5 is stupid bad.
YAKUZA 5 was actually the best game of the past 30 years and SEGA's magnum opus. It's the pinnacle of the series and achieved everything RGG tried to do with the franchise and every game before or after is a downgrade.
Anon, you do realize you are in a Yakuza fan thread, spreading those lies, right?
>K2 was actually pretty great
I actually dropped the series there, just felt like i was playing the same game for the 3rd time, but somehow with even shittier combat
You probably rushed through the series like an idiot instead of taking a few months off between them
Who is that?
>Like Kiwami
>Hate 3
It probably won't be, but you can give your $$$
to EMPRESS and hope that she graces the
NFO with schizophrenia.
4 was not awful, come on.
3 and 4 are a weird case, while i feel 3's combat is all over the place due to new framerate the story is more entretaining than 4's althoe RIKIYA is a shit character and im glad he got killed while 4 combat is more fun the story gets really fricking goofy and not due to the rubber bullet but how much stupid the cast is in general
4's combat is bad in a different direction than 3. It's braindead because nothing has the ability to counter Saejima or Akiyama's most absolutely basic shit. I remember fighting super Kiryu in the IF7 is like the only time in the whole game Akiyama can't just spam his super string over and over.
>will definitely never play 5 because 3 and 4 completely soured me on the series
5 is trash though
>Mediocre series
>Should I play the bad samurai spinoff first, when it has non-stop references to past games?
Play Yakuza 0. If you can manage to make it to Chapter 10, you will probably like the series. Then play Kiwami 1. If you enjoyed that shitfest, proceed to Kiwami 2. Now that you are completely set up, suffer through Yakuza 3.
I stopped after beating Zero. My brother was playing Kiwami ahead of me and informed me of how trash the final boss was. I wasn't enjoying the combat much at that point, dropped it. Further entries, I don't wanna play as curly haired muttoid man, and I have the feeling the writing can't get better than Zero, so, yeah.
>and informed me of how trash the final boss was
The penultimate boss is trash, the final boss is great and a massive improvement over 1.
I'll take your word for it, wasn't the catch that the Dragon style was the most effective against him? Or just in general? I hate that the game really wants you to invest in Dragon style, I can't put my finger on one good reason, but I didn't like it. Think I used rush in zero the most.
Dragon style is what Kiryu uses in the later games. Its why the style system made sense in 0 but not really past that. He was learning his moves and merges them into one style later on.
Yakuza games have stupid shit in pretty much all of them.
He could only have Dragon's Kiwami Heat used on him to knock him out of the regen. DoD is the best style in the game (and is Kiryu's only style going forward) and suitable for anything but even if you just fight the boss with the base three styles it's still a great time. You have no idea how disappointing that fight was in 1 after being angry at the boss before it. He barely even got hits in, I was always behind his back, and the amount of objects in the battle arena let you keep him down on the ground pretty much indefinitely, it was a joke. In K1 he actually puts up a fight and the items in the arena aren't as effective even with Beast.
Ahh I see, thanks for the info
You have to finish the two Judgment games first, otherwise Ishin won't make any sense.
Has Yagami ever taken a shower?
I don't see a shower in his office. In fact, I don't see a toilet either. Maybe he pees down the sink.
With the success of Yakuza Zero, you gotta wonder why they never released a Diet Yakuza.
That's 7
Bros I love videogames and Yakuza specially so fricking much it's unreal
You should play 0 at least. Ishin is just, "oh it's that character but le heckin Samurai!" It's a fanservice game, so wouldn't make much sense to play it if you are not a fan.
Do you need Edo period historical knowledge?
Forgot to mention, yes you need to study The Great Edo of Nippon.
Much like all anime, if you don’t have a deep and devout understanding of Japanese culture (I do), then you will not be able to appreciate it.
You need to know how Ryoma died in real life and read up on Saigo and Kido Takayoshi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Great_Nobles_of_the_Restoration
The following is only if you want more context on a substory:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Ships
Everything else is explained to you in-game, and even the things I listed aren't necessary but they will explain some events in some chapters that you are expected to already understand.
The game itself has Haruka selling herself to a brothel so she can get money to pay Musashi to kill himself. The game doesn't make it clear she's not actually having sex with clients but is instead a waitress, it's just assumed you know how the distinction worked back in the day. It also starts the game with some guys enslaving some kids and smacking them.
Again, not a deal breaker to get a game released but since Sega is so worried about controversies to the point they cut Michiru out and are even censoring Ishin Kiwami a bit it's something to think about.
>Haruka becomes a prostitute so some guy can kill himself
OJISAAAAAN!!!???
if you want the ultimate tl;dr crash course, just watch a couple seasons of Gintama. The game looks like a literal non-licensed game of it so far.
I'm just worried it won't run on my potato of a PC
it's going to run buttery smooth on my playstation 5
It's a game made in UE4. That depends on your setup.
I want another licensed game by RGG studios like they did FOTNS but I’m probably alone on that
>but I’m probably alone on that
I've been wanting a Kamen Rider crossover for years. It's the perfect setup but John Toei would never allow it. Considering their crossovers with RGGO there's also a chance we might see a Tokyo Revengers, Baki, Golden Kamui, or Psycho-Pass game from them but that's just speculation based on that and only that.
https://ryu.sega-online.jp/collaboration/2020/baki/
https://ryu.sega-online.jp/collaboration/2021/tokyo_revengers_anime/
https://kamuy-anime.com/news/index04570000.html
https://ryu.sega-online.jp/news/3238/
4 was pretty good all the rubber bullets considered and I disrespect anyone who dislikes this game
I don’t remember much of 4 other than the 4 final boss fights not making a lot of sense
I don’t remember why Kiryu beat up Daigo or why saejima beat up the one kid
Haruka had an abortion after Yakuza 4, because of Saejima.
Kiryu beat up Daigo because while good intentioned, he was betraying the clan and everything it stood for. Kiryu wanted to put him back on the right path and steel his resolve. Kido was afraid to take his chance, but Saejima gave him the courage to do so. That chance, however, ended up with him betraying Saejima and the other heroes. All of the final bosses in 4 are people that the protags had faith in, but steered the path into the wrong direction. A combination of tough love and well-deserved ass-kicking.
kido should have been the new mc
>Hey Daigo you will be the head of the Tojo clan now
>b-but I don't want to
>I don't care, btw I'm gonna go run an orphanage now so good luck I guess
>Hey Daigo I have to teach you how to be a leader now I guess even though I abandoned you and left you in charge of shit years ago, btw after this game I'm gonna go frick off and be a Taxi Driver in bumfrick nowhere too, good luck
lol
I liked going through the ruffs of kamurocho
I'm almost at the end of Yakuza 5 and frankly I didn't find it as good as some of the previous entries. I know it has tons of side content, but I'm really not into a good chunk of it.
Dave Bautista
>Dave Batista
>gigantic homosexual
>Saejima
>gigantic homosexual
Huh, that does work.
I didnt like kiwami 1
Kiwami 2 is better
Even better with the style switch mod
>combat gets fun
>if you grind hours upon hours of optional side content to unlock better skills and upgrades
>i p-promise
Yakuza in a nutshell
It really doesn't take long to make the combat feel good, especially in Yakuza 4's case. You can almost immediately get the really good upgrades that make the characters more flexible. It's a shame they never really did that style of upgrades again for the main series.
kek
That fricking permanent frown he has starting from Y3 is so god awful. Well, at least he smiled like twice in 3 but in all future titles he looks like the most pissed off goon imaginable while at the same time having a voice and mannerism of the most passive b***h, so it's really unfitting. Especially Y6 has this really phoned in voice acting and he goes 'A-AAHHH smartphonu I use wakarimasen I old ugu~ :(' or similar in like nearly every god damned cutscene.
Wtf is this shit? clear eyes color and skin? Man, I miss the old Kazuma from the PS2 game...
I've been hyped for this game for over a decade.
>Wow, baking ze law. Baking ze world.
KOWASE
If Nintendo was publishing Yakuza, they would have released Yakuza 0 as two games. Kiryu Edition and Majima Edition.
man LJ combat difference is like night and day compared to the first one, in the first one even changing styles worked sometimes and sometimes not cuz for some reason the game liked to drop inputs constantly, while LJ i can do combos for day right out of the start
Really is amazing. I was skeptical about LJ thinking there’s no way it’s as good as anons are hyping it up to be, but it feels absolutely fantastic.
tell me about it, dropping Judgment was the best decision cuz i was fricking sick of the game by chapter 6 with that combat, while in LJ i been just beating people up in the prologue for hours and it doesn't get boring
You are supposed to play Judgment for the detective story and Lost Judgment for the gameplay.
But i dont like detectives
Nani?
Judgment combat is good on PC now thanks to mods, so it's now the perfect game (unlike LJ).
>no Puyo Puyo
>sick ass story
>Kamurocho and not Shitkohama
>Friendship system which gives you Ryan
>ALL the GFs, and no the shit ones from LJ
>No school stories, better sidecases
The only thing that could be considered a negative now is the lightning which is a downgrade from the OG, but once they finish the Juggle Eyes mod and port every style to JE then LJ might as well be irrelevant, feel free to prove me wrong though.
There is a mod for Judgment on PC that attempts to mimic the old PS4 lighting. Doesn't look bad.
OH MY GOD IS THAT... IS THAT... LAUNCHER -> SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE (STYLE SWITCH) SQUARE SQUARE (STYLE SWITCH) AD INFINITUM EPIC JUGGLE??? THAT'S LIKE THE BEST COMBAT EVER
Yagami is epic fr fr
Yeah, that shit be bussin
This. I'm still mad at how shit the story for LJ was. Judgement was such a breath of fresh air with a plot that was interesting to investigate even if it shit the bed a bit at the finish line. LJ though the story is absolutely shit from start to finish. They then release Kaito Files and that turns out to have the most generic fricking plot that you can see what all is going to happen from a mile away. Also bring back Hamura, the most kino antagonist since yakuza 2.
>Actor got caught for drug stuff in Japan
Never ever
That was the original actor that did the capture and VA. The new actor does as good if not a better job so no reason they can't keep using the character.
The original actor still stains the character’s reputation.
There’s a reason Tanimura was barely even mentioned after Y4
>LJ though the story is absolutely shit from start to finish.
I thought bullying being so important to the story was stupid but I still thought it was fine from the start. In my opinion, the story nosedived after Sawa died. After that the writing became exceedingly trash because they thought that was the only counterpoint they needed to any argument in the story.
what other counterpoint would they need? sawa's death epitomizes everything wrong with kuwanas shtick
There were other avenues they could have explored. Kuwana's whole spiel about what he's doing being a way to give justice for people where the law can't was a load of shit that Yagami could be have easily refuted when it came out that Kuwana was still killing people even after the families denied his offer. After that his entire justification is moot because he's in it for purely selfish reasons. Him saying that the families tacitly agreed since they didn't report him even though he killed the bullies anyway is extremely flimsy too.
But they did explore other avenues
I find it really unfair how everyone boils down LJ's story to "muh sawa senseu". it's liked the shut their eyes and plugged their ears whenever a scene with Reiko or Ehara came up.
Reiko's entire role was to show another flaw in Kuwana's vigilantism. She showed that even the families who agreed with Kuwana were left with a massive burden that would effect not only themselves but the people around them. Because she took part in the murder she nearly became a puppet Public Safety, and because she refused she was sent to prison, leaving her son to recover from his coma alone.
In Ehara's case it showed how through Kuwana's elaborate plot, Ehara's revenge became more about playing a game with the legal system rather than getting justice for Toshiro. Which is why Yagami is unable to sway Ehara until he shows him the recording of Sawa. Ehara was not only going to let himself rot in prison for a crime he didn;t commit, only to allow himself to get sent back to prison for the murder he DID commit, but he was also about to let the single piece of evidence of Toshiro's suffering be lost to time. That's what broke him and made him confess, he was reminded of what really mattered to him, getting justice for his son, not playing his part in Kuwana's game.
Both of them also tie in with Sawa's murder. Reiko is convinced to confess after Yagami reminds her that she was one of Mitsuru's classmates, and that she was murdered because Kuwana wanted to play the punisher. Ehara was convinced because of Sawa's recording of her talking about Toshiro confiding in her.
Sawa was just the one victim that Yagami had a personal connection to.
Kuwana killed the bullies only if the victim's family agreed to it. He didn't kill the bullies anyway if his offer was denied.
the most soulful main menu
The game is about this guy
ARE YOU LEADY? GO!!!
I see people posting dancing girls, topless men, suited businessmen, samurais, men singing karaoke and weird out of context sexual quotes, should I get into this franchise, like what even are these games like?
Sandboxy brawler
You have a city, a main objective, and you can ignore this main objective and fight around the city, play minigames or complete optional small sub stories. Stories are yakuza drama with over the top twists and interesting characters
Small, focused sandboxes with arcadey action gameplay, tons of side content, and elaborate, Japanese crime drama stories that focus on different themes for each game.
I'm currently in chapter 11 in LAD. Where do I get weapons now? I haven't crafted anything. I only bought the ones in Chinatown. Even the armors. I had them since like chapter 5 because I went all in with the property sidegame. Should I start crafting already?
Also what are the best jobs for each character? From what I guessed on others which seems to be right.
>Ichiban - Hero
>Nanba - Homeless/Host
>Adachi - Enforcer?
>Saeko - Idol obviously
>Han - Default job
>Zhao - Dunno?
>Eri - Dealer
Are there any jobs that they should go through first before going back to the best ones?
>Where do I get weapons now?
Chapter 12 will give you the second best weapons for the default jobs because of the Battle Arena. The other second best equips are from PTH or minigame shops. The best weapons are made by upgrading default weapons/the weakest weapons for each job repeatedly. The crafting system is actually pointless and produces garbage equips most of the time, the Nouveau Riche Crowns are like the only thing there that's worth it.
>Even the armors.
Best armor is from the dungeon unlocked in the last chapter from random safes.
>Also what are the best jobs for each character?
Jobs don't matter on Normal, it's whatever you want ad everyone is viable in every job, you can even put the girls in solely attacking jobs and have Nanba be a melee class. On Legend it's
>Ichiban - Hero
>Adachi - Benched. If he's not benched then Detective, Foreman, or Enforcer.
>Nanba - Host
>Saeko - Idol
>Eri - Dealer
>Han - Enforcer
>Zhao - Gangster or Breaker
>Chapter 12 will give you the second best weapons for the default jobs because of the Battle Arena.
So basically I should actually get to chapter 12 now to get the weapons?
>The other second best equips are from PTH or minigame shops.
I mean it would be nice to do Part Time Hero but I'm at the part where the enemies I need to get or even the items I need to get are not available supposedly yet.
How time consuming is it to get the best weapons? I'm fine with just having at least the second best. I don't want to grind forever in this.
Depends on if you've been skipping fights, doing minigames, and grabbing stuff in the park. You won't be able to get them until chapter 12 because 12 has the bottlecaps you need to actually do some upgrades and to make the best weapon it consumes the second best weapon. You can buy almost all the mats you need for the upgrades, only a couple are found in the dungeons/the park. You also don't need EX EX at any point, EX alone is more than enough for even TFMT and everything past EX was added because of the TFMT DLC for people who spent hours grinding out mats before it came out and/or were going into a Legend playthrough.
Here, the top two-third of this image are what you should be paying attention to.
If I go to that Arena, can I go back to Ijincho?
>Han - Enforcer
Why Enforcer? Isn't his default better?
Hitman is terrible on Legend. His Matrix Essence barely does like 600-800ish damage to all enemies and is resisted by a lot of enemies. Like 80% of his jobs moves are unusable due to accuracy checks, Head Trauma isn't as good as Paralysis Prongs, Double Shot stops being usable even with Hitman's high Dexterity, and while his best weapon does increase Agility he already gets two turns before any enemy so in a general battle (and even boss ones) the weapon isn't really adding much to his moveset.
Enforcer on the other hand makes him a bit bulkier, grants him Essence of Shield Bash which bare minimum does 1200 to all enemies and is typically not resisted and can sometimes paralyze which is amazing on Legend, and he still typically goes two times before more than one enemy gets their turn. If Eri throws a Shadow Stitch on an enemy or he lucks into a paralysis proc then he can proceed to use Paralysis Prongs without worrying about the accuracy check for like 1400+ to a single enemy.
Judgment>Yakuza
>gay characters
>trans character
>bIacked character
Wow japan is soooo based guys!
all these changes they've made in ishin kiwami have put me off entirely
unreal engine looks so shit and the new UI is fricking anus
i feel like im the only yakuza fan on this board who's played all the mainline games and spinoffs and liked all of them
I've liked them all and am looking forward to Ishin Kiwami, I just had some issues with things like FotNS, Dead Souls, K1, and 3 that made them far more annoying. Doesn't mean they're bad games.
On one hand sure, on the other he's supposed to be playing a homeless beggar and a scar sort of tells you he's been around. Han still looks like a K-pop star with soft skin.
I wish FotNS got a PC port so mods could iron out the issues, but I guess they didn’t want to pay for the license again
do you own any yakuza merch irl, i want to finally get some collectables of my favorite series but don't know where to start with Yakuza. seems like the series doesn't get much if any licensed products.
Nah, I've seen the Kiryu Figma at a comic shop in real life (It's horrible even for the $30ish they were asking) and have been looking into some t-shirts but my purchases so far are just the games.
I know of the YakuzaFan store if you want some t-shirts:
https://www.teepublic.com/user/yakuzafan
I was considering the Ono Michio-kun and Sky Finance ones specifically.
0 and 6's collector's editions have their various knickknacks if you want to try getting those but 0's is mainly just for the novelty of the business cards. BP1 and BP2 also have first-press editions that came with stuff, I know BP2 came with a DLC card thing, I forgot what 1's was.
I don't have major issues with K2 but there are definitely issues there. Look, I'm critical on these games because I love them, that doesn't mean I hate or dislike them.
The thing with the Kiwamis is that they're not really remakes that replace the original. Even Ishin Kiwami is the same thing though Ishin Kiwami's a bit more similar to the original than K1 and K2. It's worth playing 1 even if you played K1 and vice-versa, and the same goes for 2 and K2. There's just so much different content and the experience isn't the same at all.
>Kiryu Figma
it looks pretty terrible but I'd still buy it for $30. i don't really keep track of figurines but I'm under the impression that figma has been getting better in quality lately so too bad kiryu got the short end of the stick if that's the case
>0 and 6's collector's editions
Yeah I have those, preordered them when announced
>t-shirts
not too keen personally, I'd probably sooner buy a print/poster but all the fanmade ones i've seen look like shit
Wait so you’re fine with K2?
I always heard that was more controversial than K1.
Out of what I've played I like all of them but I have my own gripes with each of them, even with 0 'cause why did they make hostesses and the awful telephone club required to face amon when 5 mostly fixed that
fair enough
I'm playing through 6 right now, and I've liked all mainline games for now, and it would take a disaster for me to actively dislike 6, I'm having a good time for now. I haven't played spin-offs.
That said, 3 was definitely an acquired taste, the game itself wasn't really good, it was mostly thanks to the rest of the series I've played through it.
I just finished Yakuza 3 just 5 minutes ago. I don't know how to feel other that I think the game should've been a duology because the pacing was breackneck fast.
>dude you can totally play Yakuza 0 as your first Yakuza
>reach ending
>spoilers for future games because, it turns out, the devs expected you to play up to Y5 before 0
I forgot about these, introduced my friend to the series with 0 and told him that kiryu's story arc "ended" as far as mainline games go so he thinks the 10 years in prison has something to do with it.
you are actually moronic.
NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE SPOILERS
they are literally all events that take place BEFORE yakuza 1
>Kiryu goes to prison for ten years before Yakuza 1
Were you dropped as a child?
The epilogues are clearly written in the 'present' which is why it says Majima "continues to play a role in the yakuza" and how Kiryu's "current whereabouts are unknown".
>literally all events that take place BEFORE yakuza 1
Kiryu goes to prison in 1995 before Yakuza 1 starts?
>Says anon is a moron
>Actually is the moronic one
Don't throw stones in glass houses
This just spoilers chapter 1 of the next game. Nothing about 2-5. The only spoilery thing in 0 is the fortuneteller substory and that just goes over most player's heads if they never played the previous games.
>Didn't realize that side cases in Lost Judgement have a specific starting window
>Didn't start Ryan's mission in time as I was too caught up with the main story
This will be the first RGG I have to play NG+ for.
why did they make Nishiki so braindead for bowling in 0
To show you how much of a failure he is in everything he does.
I like the use of samples from previous encounter songs in this one, especially the WOOAAHH